WEBVTT - Jason Biggs Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I woke up this morning to a message from

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle which was Instagram. Did you get this?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she's not going all of us, So I got sense.

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<v Speaker 2>This Instagram which is a guy doing an impression of

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<v Speaker 2>the ensemble in a musical, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Is just him like clapping and do it like I

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<v Speaker 4>wassing one line and he's and it's basically all theater

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<v Speaker 4>kid energy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Danielle's least favorite thing. The essence of theater

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<v Speaker 2>kid energy distilled. So I'm laughing. I'm literally in bed.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first thing I do this morning. I

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<v Speaker 2>pulled this and I'm laughing at that. I put the

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<v Speaker 2>down and my son bursts into the room, wrapped in

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<v Speaker 2>a blanket like a cloak, and just comes at me

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<v Speaker 2>with theater kid energy and what he's immediately riffing on.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so excited to wake me up and riff on.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got our new version of some friend you turned

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<v Speaker 2>out to be Sebastian. Do you remember this some friend?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that in the road? So the next is there's

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<v Speaker 2>a sushi restaurant that we've gone to that's like a

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<v Speaker 2>hand roll place. It's delicious and it's called you know me?

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<v Speaker 2>Why oh n o am I. So maybe it's pronounced

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<v Speaker 2>you know me, you know me, And we are now

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<v Speaker 2>trying to just constantly come up with more riffs on

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<v Speaker 2>different intonations interpretations of these three syllables. Would you would

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<v Speaker 2>you like to take a stad either one of you.

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<v Speaker 5>I already know mine, as you've forgotten. This was started

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<v Speaker 5>by Yolanda Omi. So it's why Omi is what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's the name.

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<v Speaker 3>What the why is just an initial.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're trying to do is just take the existing

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<v Speaker 2>syllables you know me right, and that's the different variations

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<v Speaker 2>on how to. So you could say, you know my,

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<v Speaker 2>you know my me, you no me me right, So

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<v Speaker 2>you just keep going, uh, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know me, you know me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's a good one. Nice. Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So Andy's most brilliant one is you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. Anyway, theater kid energy, morning, guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Well this is I don't know if you remember what

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<v Speaker 5>I sent to everybody was I found Danielle's Ultimate Retreat

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<v Speaker 5>and I sent it which was the you can go

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<v Speaker 5>to an adult theater camp. And so it's everybody like

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<v Speaker 5>you saw all these people in their thirties and forties, Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>we're all in this.

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<v Speaker 2>I would yeah so bad, and yet I would care

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<v Speaker 2>so much. You will would think it's hysterical, but commit

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<v Speaker 2>and actually like kill the actually win the camp whatever that.

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<v Speaker 7>Is over stimulated whole time, and I would be like,

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<v Speaker 7>oh my god, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Great little documentary of us going on theater camp.

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<v Speaker 6>It really would. It would be good.

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<v Speaker 3>It would.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, what I'm looking forward to is the drama,

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<v Speaker 5>the theater kid camp drama.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I love it. Did you see how Becky

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<v Speaker 3>looked at me. She doesn't deserve that part. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be oh so so del among.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty year olds. Yes, yes, it's way worse, absolutely because

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<v Speaker 2>it's real.

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<v Speaker 3>Rider It's real.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 7>Another thing that would just make me want to kill

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<v Speaker 7>everyone and be like, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 6>You You're over your talking, get your life together, your.

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<v Speaker 7>Forty I would have no patience, But until day two

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<v Speaker 7>when Danielle walks over and just starts talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Or when she doesn't get the lead part, She'll just

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<v Speaker 2>be like, wait, hold on, hold on. I was on

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know this.

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<v Speaker 8>But I came in eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I came in eighth.

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<v Speaker 6>Place on dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>There was dancing component, which there probably would be at

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<v Speaker 2>a theater camp.

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<v Speaker 5>You kill it in that they give the role to

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<v Speaker 5>Bonnie Morgan though unfortunately so but that would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be so funny.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my gosh, Yeah, we're going We're okay, okay, you

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<v Speaker 7>know what. I God, I don't know why I like

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<v Speaker 7>to do things that torture me, but with you guys,

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<v Speaker 7>it somehow ends up being fun.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was like a like a two day experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we're talking like multiple weeks, I'm not committing

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<v Speaker 2>to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>No, we're not putting on it a go anywhere for

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not going on the road. But here's what we'll do.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we'll go a few days a weekend to the

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<v Speaker 5>adult theater camp, and then to do something fun. For Danielle,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll do a weekend at the Porsche racing school.

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<v Speaker 6>Great, I like that. That's that would be fun.

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<v Speaker 5>And then for me we'll do a weekend where we

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<v Speaker 5>just smoke weed and watch movies.

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<v Speaker 6>Honestly, I'm down for all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe not all in the same month.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, we'll break it up. We'll break it up.

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<v Speaker 5>And the great part about my plan is I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>going to keep pushing it off until eventually it's canceled.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the joy. Can't get on my couch this weekend, guys. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>The three of us being super high would be a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good episode.

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<v Speaker 6>That would be a pretty funny episode.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, that's somebody somebody's dream, blunt rotation or nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I just keep passing to myself.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to pod meets World. I'm Daniel Official, I'm rather strong,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm Wilfred Dell.

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<v Speaker 7>At the turn of the twenty first century, the end

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<v Speaker 7>of human existence loomed. In the near future. The threat

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<v Speaker 7>of a computer virus called Y two K would allegedly

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<v Speaker 7>not only shut down all of our computers, but in

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<v Speaker 7>turn erase your identity, crash every plane in the air

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<v Speaker 7>at midnight, and turn your vacuum against you. An aura

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<v Speaker 7>of paranoia and fear clouded what was meant to be

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<v Speaker 7>a momentous occasion, But thankfully we did have one moment.

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<v Speaker 7>In nineteen ninety nine, pop culture that America agreed to

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<v Speaker 7>unanimously celebrate for its optimism, artistic merit, and promise for

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<v Speaker 7>the future. That moment was Jason Biggs having sex with

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<v Speaker 7>a Pie. The New Jersey Natives started acting at just

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<v Speaker 7>five years old, a veteran of national commercials by.

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<v Speaker 6>The time he booked his first TV gig at thirteen

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<v Speaker 6>Fox's Drexels Class, a.

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<v Speaker 7>Sitcom that received the common doomed fate of just one season.

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<v Speaker 7>For the next few years, he'd jump around TV shows

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<v Speaker 7>like As the World Turns and Total Security until he

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<v Speaker 7>was given the script that changed everything. In the era

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<v Speaker 7>of eminem shock Jocks and Celebrity Deathmatch, came the cinematic equivalent,

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<v Speaker 7>the teen sex comedy to rule them all, American Pie.

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<v Speaker 7>He'd quickly turned into an international superstar, not only for

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<v Speaker 7>the multi movie franchise that American Pie would become, but

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<v Speaker 7>for movies like Loser, Saving Silverman, and anything else he'd

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<v Speaker 7>long outlive the success of hard R comedies, popping up

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<v Speaker 7>on the Netflix, defining Orange is the New Black, voicing

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<v Speaker 7>Leonardo on the animated teenage mutant Ninja Turtles TV show,

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<v Speaker 7>and living within the Kevin Smith view Askewniverse. But now

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<v Speaker 7>with rumors of a new American Pie movie swirling, he

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<v Speaker 7>moved behind the camera to direct himself in the film

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<v Speaker 7>untitled Home Invasion Romance, taking into his own hands and

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<v Speaker 7>helming the projects he wants to make. And today he

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<v Speaker 7>will sit down with us to talk about what the

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<v Speaker 7>eye of the American pie Storm was like for him

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<v Speaker 7>and what forty years in the business looks like In

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty six, Welcome to Pod Meets World the legendary

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<v Speaker 7>Jason biggs Hell.

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<v Speaker 8>Hello, well, hello, hey everybody. How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 7>We are great, Thank you so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 7>We are excited to talk to you about your new movie.

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<v Speaker 7>But first I want to jump into some late nineties

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<v Speaker 7>early aughts stardom because when in Rome.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, sure, you know one does, yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, growing up in New Jersey, how does a five

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<v Speaker 7>year old start in the entertainment industry? I imagine you

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<v Speaker 7>with like a little cigar looking for representation.

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<v Speaker 6>How far off am I?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? In a little suit.

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<v Speaker 1>I my older sister, who's seven years my senior, he

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<v Speaker 1>was in this little dance group in Jersey. We grew

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<v Speaker 1>up about eight miles from Manhattan, so really close yet

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<v Speaker 1>so far away. And and a lot of the girls though,

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<v Speaker 1>they were really talented, and they would kind of travel

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<v Speaker 1>around and they had some measure of success by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey dance group standards, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 8>But because of.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, New York being right there, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these little precocious girls, their moms started taking them into

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<v Speaker 1>the city to get agents and managers and try to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do Broadway or whatever it was, commercials, what

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<v Speaker 1>have you, et cetera. And so my sister started doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>She she had, you know, got an agent and manager

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and my parents thought, you know, okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>would be a good way to save money for college

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, and so she started. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was five and got a call from the same manager,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just started going out. And then at

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<v Speaker 1>one point my younger sister was doing it as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was the three of us, but but they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stopped as they got a little older, and

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I just kept doing it.

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<v Speaker 8>And you guys are all kid actors, right, you all are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously you guys were at at minimum you

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<v Speaker 1>guys even started before the show.

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<v Speaker 8>I know you guys were doing it. Yeah, but actually

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<v Speaker 8>we were, were you guys?

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<v Speaker 5>I was in New York, So I'm guessing there were

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<v Speaker 5>times were you and because you and I think are

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<v Speaker 5>similar in age. So I'm guessing that you and I

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<v Speaker 5>were probably at a whole bunch of the same places

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<v Speaker 5>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna throw a couple of names at you. Oh God,

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<v Speaker 8>three of us studios.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, of course, three of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And Chelsea twelve floor oldest elevators wouldn't work, slowest elevators.

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<v Speaker 3>They were great.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that was always the best when you booked something

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<v Speaker 5>in New York and you had to go get a

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<v Speaker 5>wardrobe fitting down at the docks at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Those were fun.

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<v Speaker 5>And then shooting something at Unitel and Unitel Video at

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<v Speaker 5>units six and nine. Yeah, so that's where I started too,

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<v Speaker 5>was because I was from Connecticut, so it was that

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<v Speaker 5>same yeah, that same Tri State area energy.

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<v Speaker 8>Yep, exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were similar to me too, because I knew

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<v Speaker 1>there was all these city kids right at the city

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<v Speaker 1>kid actors that were like going to professional children's school,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would take the subway with their buddies to

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<v Speaker 1>the audition, and then you and me would come in

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<v Speaker 1>on our parents minivan and we'd get dropped off and

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<v Speaker 1>we'd go upstairs an audition, and then we get back down.

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<v Speaker 8>And we wait on the curb for our mom to

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<v Speaker 8>circle the block. Does this sound familiar?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I wish, I wish that's what it was. Both

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<v Speaker 3>my parents worked so much.

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<v Speaker 5>I was dropped off at the bus station in Connecticut

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<v Speaker 5>and driven to Poort Authority on a three hour bus

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<v Speaker 5>ride down and three hour bus ride back twice a week. Yeah, damn,

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<v Speaker 5>yeah he was. You might have been in a limo, Jason, God.

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<v Speaker 2>Love must have been.

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<v Speaker 8>Must be nice, must be nice to be an outlier.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a young age.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait eight miles from Manhattan? Were you Hoboken?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh gosh, drop, I can't believe. I mean, we were

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<v Speaker 6>going to get out of dropping.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know where you were, so so Bergen County.

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<v Speaker 1>So Hoboken is like one mile I mean that is

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<v Speaker 1>right there. So just a little further in, like the

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<v Speaker 1>town is called Hasbrook Heights. Okay, Giant Stadium, Giant Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>in the shadows.

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<v Speaker 2>Does this mean when you did Drexel's class, were you

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<v Speaker 2>that the New York kid who came out for the

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<v Speaker 2>network test because one one one one of flown out

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, oh, they flew him out from New York.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to get it. Yeah, guy, weren't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I was that guy. Actually I was the guy

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<v Speaker 1>and Britney Murphy was that girl.

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<v Speaker 8>Ye I know. Yeah, so it was me and Britney.

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<v Speaker 1>Brittany was from Edison, New Jersey, a couple of miles

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<v Speaker 1>further south, and she and I that was both of

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<v Speaker 1>our like first big l a job and we both

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<v Speaker 1>came out. But yeah, I was the one New York

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<v Speaker 1>guy and she was the one New York you know

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<v Speaker 1>girl in the cast.

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<v Speaker 8>And yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember Crexels Class was the show that like everybody our

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<v Speaker 5>age wanted to audition for.

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<v Speaker 6>It was that Matthew Lawrence that show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and matt and Matthew Lawrence and and A. J.

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<v Speaker 8>Langer who oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>Aj you know she's royalty now literally royalty. She married

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<v Speaker 5>a prince, she did, she married like a prei or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, account account.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, that has.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a title and all this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, crazy, Yes, that's so funny. And actually Drexel's Class.

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<v Speaker 1>So Drexel's Class was in ninety one and it shot

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<v Speaker 1>on what was at the time, as you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>very well, Mary Tyler Moore CBS Mary Tyler Moore, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Shot correct for two years?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, only for two years?

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<v Speaker 1>What was when I was doing Direct We did one

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<v Speaker 1>season of that and it was canned. But but I

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<v Speaker 1>remember Rider my parking space, not that I was driving,

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<v Speaker 1>but me and my mom are van, our limo, minivan.

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<v Speaker 8>It was either near you or I remember my park spot.

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<v Speaker 2>You blocked it one day.

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<v Speaker 8>Sure I blocked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I blocked it. But I remember walking past,

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<v Speaker 1>and at this point, you guys were big hit and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember like walking past and seeing you know how

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<v Speaker 1>they used to have the the they used to slide

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<v Speaker 1>the name plates in. I hit the black and white

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<v Speaker 1>typing and I saw Ryder Strong and I was like, whoa, and.

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<v Speaker 8>You must be are you maybe a couple of years

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<v Speaker 8>older than me?

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<v Speaker 2>How?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh? No?

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<v Speaker 6>Also, were you saying it was ninety one?

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<v Speaker 8>So it couldn't have been because you guys, were you

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<v Speaker 8>guys on in ninety one? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety three?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, okay, who was the celebrity I'm dying down there?

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<v Speaker 8>Else it was Rider, so hold on, hold on, hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me think about what else I did on CBS,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Tyler Moore. It must have been a pilot that

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<v Speaker 1>I did, Okay, so it wasn't Drexel's class, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the later nineties.

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<v Speaker 6>I would have been ninety five or ninety six.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did a pilot and I came out and

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<v Speaker 1>I walked past Riders parking space.

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<v Speaker 8>Did you have a BMW Z four?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure it was an M Roadster. It was an M

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<v Speaker 2>roaster Z the M version of the Z three.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh huh did you get into an accident?

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<v Speaker 3>Perhaps, Oh no, you're talking about my M three.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, my did you show the car?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a Z It was a cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Some I remember walking past Dans parking space with the

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<v Speaker 1>Z three Roadster were in in the parking space and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing I believe on the front of the hood there

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<v Speaker 1>being a big dent, and I remember thinking, God, drive.

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<v Speaker 2>My car to a friend who totaled it, like, oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>my buddy Sean wrecked my car.

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<v Speaker 8>That is so it was. It was obvious it was you.

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<v Speaker 8>So it wasn't one. It wasn't when I was in.

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<v Speaker 8>It was another time I was on Mary telling.

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<v Speaker 2>Moore whenever, whenever, I am a pretty driver. Though I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 5>But copn just a cop magnet. It's so weird. They

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<v Speaker 5>never carried drugs while driving with riders strong.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good, a good rule of thumb.

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<v Speaker 6>Unless I'm with you, then you're fine to mag it gets.

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<v Speaker 3>You out of all tickets.

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<v Speaker 8>You're so funny. Yes, yeah, I remember it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>clearly never forgotten son.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I always.

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<v Speaker 8>Wanted to tell you that story. And I thought I

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<v Speaker 8>remember we went to a wedding together. We had a

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<v Speaker 8>mutual friend Sasha. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe I didn't tell you then, but I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been I've been carrying this nugget.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so long, so exciting.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like I really just witnessed something good, Like

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<v Speaker 7>I can tell you your your soul feels better cleansed

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<v Speaker 7>having gotten that story.

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<v Speaker 1>When Jensen asked me to do the show, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>will I ever?

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<v Speaker 3>I got a.

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<v Speaker 2>Three story.

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<v Speaker 8>For a while, I've been.

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<v Speaker 1>Wondering when I was going to unleash this on the world.

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<v Speaker 7>So you're twelve when you book Drexel's class. How big

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<v Speaker 7>of a deal is this in the BIG's household?

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<v Speaker 8>It was. It was a pretty big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was our first, it was my so

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<v Speaker 1>so before that, you know, I had always.

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<v Speaker 8>All the new York.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you can relate all the New York act kid

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<v Speaker 1>actors were always like, please take me out for pilot season. Mom, dad,

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<v Speaker 1>please take me out. And my parents were like no, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're supposed to be on a show that shoots

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<v Speaker 1>in LA, you'll audition for it here.

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<v Speaker 8>And book it. And I was like, no, we got

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<v Speaker 8>to be out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to be out there, please, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm not We're not taking a month off

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<v Speaker 1>of work in school for you to go live in

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<v Speaker 1>the oak Wood and we're not happening. Yeah, and and

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<v Speaker 1>so I did book it out of New York. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was like the biggest deal. So it was my

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<v Speaker 1>first time coming to LA. That was my first time

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<v Speaker 1>in LA and it was like the greatest thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and I came out and and yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 8>Was a it was a it was a big It

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<v Speaker 8>was a big deal and it was super fun and

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<v Speaker 8>it was you know, we we.

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<v Speaker 1>Shot remember those three back the box studios in the

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<v Speaker 1>back by the river.

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<v Speaker 8>It was Seinfeld was in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe we're on the on the wherever one Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 1>was in Yep, we were next to Seinfeld for that

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<v Speaker 1>one season and I wasn't yet a big Seinfeld fan.

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<v Speaker 8>It was like their third season, early.

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<v Speaker 3>Ear early days, the second or third season in ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>One, and I was twelve. I didn't quite understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I went in. Me and Matthew and Joey Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>went in. We like kind of walked in next door

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<v Speaker 1>one day when they were filming and they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>let us in, and it was it was the coolest things.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, this set is so cool. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a giant parking garage. And years later, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, I saw the parking garage

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<v Speaker 1>episode ye being filmed like, which is like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the all time classics on It's actually.

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<v Speaker 5>The one that they credit for becoming The first episode

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<v Speaker 5>that really felt like Seinfeld to the whole cast was

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<v Speaker 5>the part they all back to the parking garage.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Me, Joey and Matthew.

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<v Speaker 3>Such a sneaking out of the Seinfeld set.

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<v Speaker 5>It's such a young Hollywood story from the nineties, just

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<v Speaker 5>the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. But anyway, yeah, Daniel, it was it was a

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<v Speaker 8>big It was a.

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<v Speaker 6>Big deal for you.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, and then unfortunately it's ends up on the receiving

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<v Speaker 7>end of a first season cancelation. Do you remember feeling

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<v Speaker 7>devastated or did you have some sort of understanding that

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<v Speaker 7>this is just the business.

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<v Speaker 8>Both.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good question because I I my I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly it was. My guy had books some national commercials

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<v Speaker 1>right that were like, whoa, this is so cool, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd seen myself on TV and my friends and

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<v Speaker 1>like it felt like a like a big, big deal

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<v Speaker 1>and they were, of course, you know, but this was

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<v Speaker 1>like WHOA a TV show? This is, you know, on Fox,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's commercials, and it's after the Simpsons and before

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<v Speaker 1>nine oh two and oh, which, by the way, you

0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>have to really suck if you're put on after this

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<v Speaker 1>between the Simpsons and nine O two one oh and

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<v Speaker 1>you get canceled at the thirteen episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you watched it?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh? Yeah, it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was.

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<v Speaker 5>Was Dabney cool back then to work with because I

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<v Speaker 5>worked with him not longer. Really he wasn't he was

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<v Speaker 5>so nice to me, was he He's so.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, here's the thing. So so, and

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<v Speaker 1>this ties into Danielle's question a little bit. So. So,

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<v Speaker 1>right before I booked Drexel's Class, I had done a

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<v Speaker 1>play called conversations with my father at the Seattle Repertory

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<v Speaker 1>Theater for a couple of months, and it was with

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<v Speaker 1>Judd Hirsh and Tony Shalub and really cool cast, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of like a big deal job for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and lived in Seattle for a couple of months, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about bringing it back to Broadway soon

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<v Speaker 1>after that, and they wanted me to reprise my role.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Drexel's Class happened, and it was this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure if I was going to be available

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<v Speaker 1>or not. And Judd Hirsch was doing his final season

0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of Dear John on the Pyramoult Lot at the same

0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.159
<v Speaker 1>time I was doing my first and last season of

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<v Speaker 1>Drexel's Class, and his series ended and I left after

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>thirteen episodes, and the timing worked out that he was like, Okay,

0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go do Broadway and I was able

0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.640
<v Speaker 1>to go do it as well. So because of Drexel's

0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Class being canceled, I was able to I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to make my Broadway debut.

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<v Speaker 8>So it was this bummer. It was a bummer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a hike, becoming a low but then becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a high again, all in a.

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<v Speaker 8>Matter of the Industry Week exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to tie into Dabney, you know, Judd is

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the greatest guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yea.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I came from doing this show with Judd

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and having a real he was you know, he's very evunculary.

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<v Speaker 1>Was kind of a second dad vibe to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was twelve, you know, And and Dabney was again

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm I just didn't get to know him that well.

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<v Speaker 8>He was more standoffish. He kind of seemed.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit like the role he played, this curmudgeonly kind

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<v Speaker 1>of teacher who didn't want to be there. He just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was, I don't know, in hindsight, like he

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 1>was the adult in the show, a bunch of snotty

0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.679
<v Speaker 1>actor kids, you know what I mean. Like I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a curmudgeon as well, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>I just got for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, oh, he's no Judd hersh right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't I don't want to speak.

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't warm and fuzzy, but it would be the

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<v Speaker 5>equivalent on our set.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Bill Daniels. It's what it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Working with Dabney was like working with Bill, where if

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<v Speaker 5>you took the time to go and like talk to him.

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<v Speaker 5>Dabney was like a Virginia Military Institute guy and grew

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<v Speaker 5>up very straight laced, but when you talk to him,

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<v Speaker 5>especially about the industry, he would love to do that,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, remember when you would actually talk to

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<v Speaker 5>Bill about stories and kind of open.

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<v Speaker 2>If we only did thirteen episodes with Bill probably probably

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.679
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have gotten that yet we had seven years and

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<v Speaker 2>Crumpy Yeah, yeah, he was just ur grumpy guy. He

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<v Speaker 2>was just soft underbelly enough at that point that we

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 2>were like it's fine, you know, but it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was probably fifteen years later after I'd worked with

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 5>Dabney that I was walking on Warner Brothers and I

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.439
<v Speaker 5>walked by a trailer and the door was open, and

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 5>I saw him, and I was like I should I

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 5>should say hi, Like he'll never remember me. We did

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.160
<v Speaker 5>a film together, but and I knocked in the trailers

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 5>like mister Coleman, I don't any turn around, and went, well,

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 5>no one, and I walked in it and I sat

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<v Speaker 5>in his trailer for like an hour and we talked again.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was like maybe it was that moment that

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<v Speaker 5>cemented it for me more than actually working with him,

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 5>but it was that's the best person to equate it

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<v Speaker 5>to your right, if we had thirteen episodes with Bill Daniels,

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 5>we probably walked walked away and been.

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Like he was just an old kind of app a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and so maybe if yeah, I had Drexel's class

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.440
<v Speaker 5>gone seven years, it might have been it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you might have had you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I thank you for telling me that story,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like I've really spent you know, however, many

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<v Speaker 1>years since ninety one.

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<v Speaker 8>For the most part, if people ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Going, yeah, he's not that great again, I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>got a you know, a little.

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<v Speaker 8>Glimpse of him. So I certainly like hearing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's an interesting dude.

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<v Speaker 7>So you make your Broadway debut as a I mean

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<v Speaker 7>a teenager. You're thirteen years old right at this point.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, what is it like now.

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<v Speaker 7>Doing eight shows a week with the heavy hitters that

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<v Speaker 7>you mentioned. Were you intimidated at all or did you

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<v Speaker 7>have a lot of confidence?

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<v Speaker 8>I think I was too young a naive to be

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<v Speaker 8>like as intimidating, you know. I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the opening night being kind of nervous, but

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't know, maybe because I had also done

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>it in Seattle prior, but ten years later I did

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the graduate on Broadway which rider.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep, I did the tour for Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You did the tour, which we should talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember doing that ten years after conversations with

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>my father and being so incredibly nervous and I don't know.

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, you're stepping into it. It's obviously it's

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the Benjamin Bardic role. It's a different thing. I've now

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 1>achieved some sort of fame. There's people actually there to

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>see me.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a different kind.

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Of pressure, and there's all this, but like, there is

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>something to be said for when you're that, when you're young,

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 1>just having no sense of You're like, oh whatever, I

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>just really I just want to, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do this thing and then you know, go home and

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, I recorded my favorite Saturday morning show that

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to watch.

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<v Speaker 8>And just like your thing, You're just the things you

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 8>think about are.

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<v Speaker 3>Too You're too naive to be nervous. Isn't it the best? Yeah,

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 3>you want to just go back to the time anxiety.

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't really exist. Yeah, if you're lucky. I mean, obviously

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>not for every kid, but I feel like anxiety didn't

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 2>enter my life until I was in my twenties. Yeah, exactly.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 2>It was like the idea of like sitting and stewing

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>or worrying about somebody's like will you either do it

0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 2>or you don't, Like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, that's that's exactly right.

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but it was definitely, I mean, I will

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 1>say it was. It was a crazy schedule because I

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>was still going to school and so so it was,

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, you do the eight shows from the you know,

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I'd wake up in the morning, I'd go to school

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>right and then after school, come home, do homework, get

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<v Speaker 1>in my mom's Limo mini van, drive through Lincoln Tunnel traffic,

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>get to the city, do the play. It was a

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>three hour player. I wasn't in the second act. I

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in the second act, but I had to stay

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 1>for curtain call. So me and David Cromwell, who Dave

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in the Act one and I wasn't in Act two,

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>so we would basically he would do his homework in

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Act one and I would do my homework in Act two,

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and then we'd do curtain call.

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 8>Leaving the theater district at eleven.

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>PM, getting home at like eleven thirty midnight, going to sleep,

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>getting up and going to school Wednesdays. Wednesdays leave school

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>early a little bit early to do the two show day.

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 8>And then the weekends would come from school.

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>But you know, would have four shows in the and

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>then the weekend from the theater was Monday, and all

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the adults were like, oh, I'm so excited to have

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>off tomorrow.

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 6>And school full day.

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>And then the summer, you know, it was through the

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 1>summer too, So even when all my friends were like.

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Off, how long did you do? How long did you

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 3>make me?

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 3>My god?

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>It was it was basically it was basically all of

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 1>eighth grade. So it was like the basically at the

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>beginning of eighth grade, I was doing uh Drexel's class

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>at that fall, and then I came back to Jersey

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and I did all of I did the play for

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>almost basically a year, from like December to November the

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>following year into freshman year.

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:54.959
<v Speaker 8>Into my freshman year, it was.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy, but again, like there was no I

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>was also just the I didn't have to, There was

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>no other responsibility.

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 5>Was there ever any talk of maybe pulling you out

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 5>of school and getting like a three hour set school

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 5>like a tutor or something or.

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Was that never even a question? You were just going

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 3>to stay in school?

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 8>It was never even a question.

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you know, in Seattle, we I had

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I had a tutor, but it was I mean the

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Washington State child whacked or laws or I don't know

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>if they even existed. I think I literally had like

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.239
<v Speaker 1>a tutor for like two hours a week. I mean

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it was basically like nothing. And so yeah, we just said,

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm just going to stay in school

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>as much as possible.

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 8>And my teachers were really uh supportive.

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>You know this town is it was you know, right

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>there outside the city, very busy populated area. But the

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>town itself that I was, that I grew up in

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>was really small and had one high school in school,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>so it was like all my teachers were very excited.

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I was the only one who was doing this sort

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>of thing, so they were happy to like fat me

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>my assignments and give me extra time if I needed it.

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And I was a pretty smart kid, so it was

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't you know, I didn't really fall behind.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 8>Also, it wasn't the hardest school.

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was I just managed you know, but

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>but it.

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 8>Was definitely a workload. I mean, I remember her.

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean when I tell this story now, I'm like,

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I can't imagine doing something like that

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>as an adult, Like there's no world.

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 7>And that's what I wanted to ask you, Like, we're

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 7>thinking about the schedule for you, and of course for

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 7>you it's grueling.

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 6>You're in school all day. But was it your mom

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 6>was a nurse, right?

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 8>How is she? How is she.

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 7>Working and managing your eight shows a week and driving

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 7>you in the limo van?

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, when you own a limo van,

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>it's very easy to drive.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 8>I mean, you want to drive.

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 6>Over driving Tesla's now.

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Practically practically it's it's you know, it's not that hard

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to get her behind the wheels.

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 8>Okay, okay, not a euphemism.

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So so, but she, you know, when I was I

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>forget how old I was. It was before I did

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.479
<v Speaker 1>that play. So at some point when I was little,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>she decided to start working nights so that she could

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>take me on auditions. Man if I had an audition,

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, so that she could be available, you know

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>at three pm when I got out of school, if

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I had to go into the city for for audio.

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 3>So I never put that together.

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 5>You were the guy in the waiting room whose mom

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 5>was sitting there in bloody scrubs.

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Now I get it, now, I know who it was.

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 8>That's right, that's right.

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>You thought she was auditioning, but no, that was actually yeah,

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:47.959
<v Speaker 1>no it listen, you know the fun I mean she

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't even this woman, she didn't even like get out

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of the car. I mean, I was, you know, seven

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>years old. She dropped me off. And this is obviously

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>before cell phones and stuff.

0:30:57.880 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>So like I.

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Would come down be the elevator and go out to

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the curb and just kind of like look.

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 8>And sort of wait because she would be circling the block.

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 3>They don't understand it.

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 5>I've tried to explain New York in the eighties and

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 5>the nineties, like early nineties, auditioning and getting dropped off

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 5>and walking the city, and these are California kids, Jason,

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 5>They're just they don't get it.

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it was, by the way, California, I mean, sorry,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>New York in the eighties was also I mean.

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 5>It was New York in the eighties, Yeah it was.

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't the Disney store in Times Square. It was

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 5>there wasn't some hooker named Disney who.

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 4>Didn't care that.

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 8>You never heard it.

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wanted to take it to her store exactly.

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 3>It was a different time.

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but but no, I mean, look, I my

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>mom is uh look and my dad, I mean there

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>she especially during when I was doing the play, they

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>would kind of alternate taking me into the city and stuff.

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>So it was, yeah, I'm forever indebted to them.

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 7>It was a family sacrifice for Yeah, well, was your

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 7>sister still dancing and doing other things at this time

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 7>or was it mainly the focus on you at this point?

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 8>So she was like seven years older.

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>So so when I'm doing conversations with my father, I

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>am in seventh grade, She's like, yeah, she's I think had.

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 8>Gone to college. She had stopped. Yeah, yeah, she had.

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 8>She had sort of stopped.

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I think she kind of stopped when she was like

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe fourteen or something like that. And I think it

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>was a combination of her sort of wanting to and

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>same for my younger sister, of them sort of wanting

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to stop, but also just they weren't working as much.

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I mean I wanted to stop at

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>some points, and I remember there were like two distinct

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>times when I thought, Okay, this is you know, I

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>think I should stop this. I'm like, I can't hang

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>out with friends because I'm going on some voiceover audition.

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 8>That I'm not even booking, Like what am I doing?

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 8>This is so lame? And then I would book the

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 8>next thing, you know, and I mean, I'm back a golf.

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 3>It's like playing golf.

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 5>This is the thing in the world that you hit

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 5>one shot, You're like, I'm coming back tomorrow.

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm going pro yo.

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 8>So anyway, it's yeah, it's a drug. I mean, it's

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 8>a drug.

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>But so when did you so this pulled you back

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>to New York? When did you come back to LA

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 2>and actually like move move to LA.

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that was in ninety seven then, so so

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that was yeah, so back to New York.

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 8>This is ninety one ninety two, and then.

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Finished the play and then kind of had my rest

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of my freshman year, sophomore year in high school auditioning.

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>This was one of the times when I was like,

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was still I was like, now I'm fourteen,

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years old, I'm still too young. I can't go

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>into city on my own. So I'm still getting driven

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>by my mom.

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 8>But I'm like.

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Getting older and it feels a little and all of

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>my friends, now, well, I really don't have friends because

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>they've all this is the cue, the violent this is

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of my all the friends have kind

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>of formed their groups early high school because you know,

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>there were kind of middle school to two smaller elementary

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 1>schools come together. In middle school, all the friends started

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>forming I'm the kid on Broadway.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 3>You're describing by town. This is exactly how I grew up.

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing, and this is like's so weird.

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to hear that, like this is yeah,

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's, uh, it's such a weird, unique childhood, Like

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it's the weirdest thing.

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 8>And so yeah. So I was like spent freshman year,

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 8>sophomore year just kind of going what am I doing?

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 8>Like I'm getting driven into the city by my mom,

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 8>and I'm.

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Not booking anything, and I have no friend and I

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>can't play sports because.

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:45.760
<v Speaker 8>God forbid, I have an audition.

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like not doing anything and I had I

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>got an audition for a soap opera, As the World

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Turns that filmed in New York, and I'm driving into

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the city, and I remember telling my mom in the

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Toyota Previa minivan driving in it was like a gray

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 1>rainy I'll never forget this. It was like a gray

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>rainy day. And oh and I also used to get

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>like carsick to boot on the top of all of this.

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I like had like a like a headache

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh God, I'm gonna throw up.

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I'm like, Mom, I like this. I

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think I can do I got it, you know what,

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I love it. I'll revisit, you know, after high school.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>You know. But I think I'm gonna tell let's tell

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the agent. Let's just like I just let's chill on

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>this for a little bit. This is it's kind of embarrassing.

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I haven't worked in a year and a half. I

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like have no friends. I just like, screw this, I'm

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna throw up all over.

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 8>Your limo again.

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And uh, She, to her credit, you know, was like

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>because I think I was a little I was nervous

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to tell her, not that I thought she was going to.

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 8>Not allow me.

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>It was never that because I never felt she was

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>never like that kind of stage mom. But But I

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I'm just nervous to say it, maybe because

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I was afraid of it becoming I don't know, I

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>just was afraid to say. And her reaction was was

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>she was like, okay, like fine, whatever you want. I

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>mean now, in hindsight, I'm sure she was thinking, like

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm driving you every day she use my language, sorry,

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>like this is crazy, like.

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 8>And you're not even.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 9>Bookings a year and a half since you were on

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 9>real that all this time and money on you.

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 8>So anyway, so she was like okay.

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And and of course that audition was for this you know,

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>soap opera, and I booked it. I ended up doing

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it and did it for a year and and uh

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and and was like, okay, the drug.

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Thatszy schedule either, it's a crazy schedule, dude. Don't you

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 3>do like eleven episodes in a day?

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, pretty much.

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>So it was literally a full hour episode today. They

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>split it into an AM session and a PM session.

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>They would usually give me the PM session so I

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.919
<v Speaker 1>could go in at like one. I'd still like leave

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>school early, but again I was still only fifteen, so

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 1>i'd have.

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 8>To like get my mom to do But whatever, I

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 8>was like, I was back. I actually started.

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's at what at some point during that year,

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I started. She must have they must have

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>like signed over some sort of guardian ship I believe

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to like one of the producers or something so that

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>I could I took a started taking the bus. So

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>this was also when I felt like I was starting

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to become a little independent as well, which was good,

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and so I did that for a year then was fired,

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>but was the was the only actor I remember I

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>was fired. So Danielle, you were asking like, was that

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>crazy to like have that thing where like suddenly you

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>had this high and it was low and uh. I

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 1>remember getting called into the executive producer's office of As

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the World Turns and him firing me, and I'll and

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.879
<v Speaker 1>being like whoa and thinking am I bad?

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 5>Do?

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I say, like, and he was saying, you know, no,

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>it's storyline, it's this, We're going in a different direction, all.

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 8>The things, you know. But I remember leaving there like whoa.

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Because now I'm also old enough truly to sort of process.

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 1>And also my book detector is pretty good, and you know,

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you go, oh, maybe it is partly me, I don't

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe there is something like it's funny there

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>they brought they work because also earlier that season or

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that year, they had brought in a potential girlfriend character

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>for me, or they they screen tested. This is actually

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a funny little aside. So they brought in four actresses

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>for me to screen test to be my love and

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>potential love interest.

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 8>Can I tell you a little secret. I think I've.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Mentioned this before, but I'll say it here. I had

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to kiss these girls in the screen test on camera.

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It was my first kids. Okay, so good pressure. Yeah,

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I think I can say this because she has Okay,

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I won't say her name.

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 8>How about this.

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I won't say her name justin case, but I will

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>say Okay, So I had I kissed these four actresses

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and they were it was my first kid. I never

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>was so nervous, okay. And they ended up like never

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I think they hired one of them, but they never

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>put us.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 8>Together like they kind of.

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>It ended up not being a love interest for me.

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, oh God, I m I must I

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>must be a kisser or I must suck.

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.240
<v Speaker 2>You chemistry.

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Street, It's me, It's me. And then uh so they whatever.

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I was fired And then like a month after that,

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the Emmy nominations come out, and I was the only

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 1>actor nominated from the shower, the.

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 5>Only actor Best Kid, Best Kiss on a Soap Opera.

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:24.840
<v Speaker 10>Well, I would later go on through the Best Kiss,

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 10>Best Kiss at the MTV Awards for My kiss with

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 10>Shawn Williams Scott an American Pam.

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:31.280
<v Speaker 8>You know what, you know what.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 5>Were you just were you just not back on the

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.439
<v Speaker 5>show or did they give you? Were you like killed

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 5>in a tragic blimp accident or you fail? Like did

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 5>they get you the character killed off?

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Or not killed off? But something just as ridiculous. My

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the my mom in the show, and I found a

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>suitcase of like five hundred thousand dollars of ransom money

0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that we decided to keep ourselves and started spending on things.

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.919
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole episode where I am Ice skating because

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I decide to buy ice skates with the stolen ransom

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>money and it's like.

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 5>Every kid, kid, give me Ice skates.

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 8>So I remember, so I got nominated and whatever. It's

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 8>a daytime, and you know what I remember from my hugo.

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, but for my ego, it was

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like such a like okay, you know what, like because

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>your head, you go to the darkest places. I'm obviously terrible,

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Like that's I'm a horrible kiss her, I'm a horrible

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>actor and all this suff But back to the actresses.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>So the four actresses, I end up one of them.

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Years later, I'm in New York and I'm down at

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>fourteenth Street Ace station and I'm walking and I walked

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>past this woman and we kind of make eye contact

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and we keep walking and then we turn around at

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the exact same time and we looked back and we're like,

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and she was one of the actresses that I had kissed.

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 8>And she's like, Jason, you know, can I tell you

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 8>something like what? She goes, She goes, you were my

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 8>first kids.

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 1>And I go and I said to her, and I go,

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you were my second, third, or fourth?

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 8>You were either my first, second, third, or fourth?

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, because I didn't remember who you went first. You

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 1>were either you were my first year or second, third?

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 8>Fourth? Yeah. Yeah, isn't that funny. You would know her,

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 8>You would know this actor.

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>She's the sweetest, best that.

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 8>Anyway.

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 7>So then nineteen ninety nine comes around and everything changes

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 7>for you. Obviously the script has become a phenomenon. But

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 7>when you first read American Pie. Were you like, holy,

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 7>this is wild. What was your impression?

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean so I had

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>gone out to LA then, actually in ninety seven, I

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 1>had gone out. That's where I was trying to get

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>to before. And I just love the sound of my

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>own voice so much.

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 8>Thanks. I am an Emmy nominated actor.

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 6>Exactly.

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 8>It's aime whatever day time is. Still only went from

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 8>the show, no big deal. And I did not win.

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 8>By the way, if you case you're wondering, and we.

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 7>Knew you would have told us if you did, it

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.919
<v Speaker 7>would have been.

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:01.879
<v Speaker 8>So.

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>So in ninety seven, I get it. I get a

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>TV show also brings me out to LA. This time

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I dropped out of two colleges and this

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>time I'm like, I'm staying in LA the show. That

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>show was canceled as well after thirteen episodes. You're sensing a.

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 8>Pattern, and but I was like, I'm staying out in LA.

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>And then a few months after that, I got an

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>American Pie. But at that point, it was ninety seven

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight, and it was the you guys were all

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 1>out there. It was like the greatest time to be

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a teen age.

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 8>After in La, every movie, every I mean, it was

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 8>just like insane. I was going out so much, it was.

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm reading all these scripts and uh going

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and auditioning for them and would have been psyched to

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>have gotten any one of them, and got closed on

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>quite a few. And then American Pie, which wasn't called

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>American Pie at the time, that script comes to me

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 1>and I read that and immediately, did you did any

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of you guys read it?

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:02.360
<v Speaker 8>Like read it?

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so, No, it.

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 8>It.

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like in a class of its own,

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. You just you read this thing and you go, oh, oh,

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>oh that's.

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 8>What this could be.

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>This is what it is when you like when you

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>a really go for it, but also like have characters

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>that are kind of grounded and have poor you know, like,

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>oh this is what this is what this should be,

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I just remember reading it like laughing

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:34.280
<v Speaker 1>my off in my little room in West la sleeping

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>on my futon, just like laughing out loud, just like,

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>oh wow, this is this would be really great if

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 1>I could get this one. And I read the role

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 1>in thinking like oh, I'm cold, this is totally my thing,

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. And yeah, and so then just went through

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the you know, went through the audition process, and they

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 8>Uh. Apparently at first that was the name. I can tearing, and.

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>The directors were pushing for you know, sort of no

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>name or sort of lesser named actors and uh, which

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>was great and ultimately got their way.

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:15.839
<v Speaker 8>And I think because it.

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Was a smaller movie by studio standards, they had a

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit more you know, leeway and uh. And yeah,

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, after a couple of months, got the offer

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>to to do it.

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 5>It was such an ensemble were they were they kind

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 5>of putting together different groups of actors to kind of

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.439
<v Speaker 5>do anything together or was it really one at a time?

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 8>One at a time?

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 6>Wow?

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 5>And they got that chemistry that isn't amazing, But yeah, no.

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 8>There were no chemistry. Reads. I did not read.

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I did not read with Alison, I did not read

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>with Eugene.

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 8>I did not I mean nobody.

0:46:54.360 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 1>It was they piecemealed this thing and and like knocked

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it out of the park obviously. I mean I am

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Eddie K. Thomas, who played Finch, who was also a

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:13.320
<v Speaker 1>New York Kid actor, so I had known him forever.

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>He was one of those PCs kids that took the

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>subway and had his little friend the cool kids. And

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I would see him on all these auditions and we

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of like nod with recognition and I'd see his

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.839
<v Speaker 1>name on the sign, and but we never spoke more

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 1>than two words to each other. And he actually at

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>one point was an extra in a scene on As

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:37.919
<v Speaker 1>the World Turns where I like get where I get

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 1>where I get beat up in in school, like I

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>get like thrown against the locker, and he's like the

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 1>bully's sidekick.

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.800
<v Speaker 8>And we still didn't talk to each other. He was

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:48.840
<v Speaker 8>just like looking at me like this as an extra,

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:50.399
<v Speaker 8>and we still weren't here.

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>And then I get passed in American Pie and I

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 1>go back to New York. There's like a month, you know,

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>between me being cast and the start of filming. So

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I go home to New York to hang with my

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>friends and stuff. And I'm in my agent's office in

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 1>New York and I go up to her desk and

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 1>she has a headshot of Eddie on her desk and

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I go, oh, my god, you do you you know

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 1>what's up Eddie? She goes, yeah, I wrap him, and

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I go, I had no idea we even had this

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>this crazy we have the same agent. And then she goes, yeah,

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and as a matter of fact, he just got cast

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 1>in the movie.

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 8>He's going to play Finch. And I'm like, get out

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 8>of here. That's incredible.

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I've known this kid since we were this big without

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 1>really knowing that.

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 8>Yah.

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And so back in LA I go to the table

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>read and I remember walking in and seeing Eddie and

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 1>we just like had this like.

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 8>You you fifteen.

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Years I've seen you and like immediate best friends, immediate chemistry.

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And he's my brother. I mean he's he's like, to

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 1>this day, my best friend. And so so that chemistry

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>was easy. And like after Eugene was cast, we we

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of had a rehearsal day where we went in

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and kind of like improvised all these scenes, and the

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 1>chemistry there was immediate. But it was really just like

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 1>a credit to the casting director and the directors, like.

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right, I mean now when I was just I'm

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 5>curious when when you're shooting. Because one of the things

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 5>I remember distinctly about this movie was that it was

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 5>one of the first times I saw that they had

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 5>done it was like an under an unrated version. Yeah,

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 5>and I'd never really seen that before. So did you

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 5>know you were going to do that as you were shooting?

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 5>Would you shoot one way? Because I know there are

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 5>multiple scenes that you that were shot different ways for

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 5>it was an R rating or no rating, and so

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 5>did you know that going in where it's like, all right,

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:43.800
<v Speaker 5>we're shooting it this way, and then we're going to

0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 5>shoot it this way, and the we're gonna shoot this

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 5>way and then we're gonna shoot this way. Or are

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 5>you kind of just making it up as you go

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 5>along with like let's try you on the desk now

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 5>with the Pie or was that already planned?

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 8>Great question?

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 1>So, no, we had no idea there was going to

0:49:56.360 --> 0:50:02.360
<v Speaker 1>be an unrated version. And this was right before DVD.

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Like the first American Pie I have on VHS, and

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 1>then like by American Pie two, there were no VHS.

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:15.919
<v Speaker 1>So it was literally in that period where the unrated version.

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the unrated is kind of a DVD thing, right,

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>like all the extras and the unrated and all that

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it seemed to me to coincide with.

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:27.959
<v Speaker 8>So the first American Pie, we just shot it.

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 1>And what ended up we decided to do it two

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>different ways, not because we thought a one way is

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 1>going to be less scandalous, and we'll get us the

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 1>R rating and this version will save you for an

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>unrated that was not on our radar at all. It

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 1>was simply which one of these is going to be funnier?

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Like it was scripted, I think, standing up, But we said,

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 1>you know what, what if I was actually on the

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 1>countertop as well, mounting the pie like that would be funny.

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we try that too? And so we did

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>it that way, not because of any reason. And so

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe in an early cut the funnier I mean

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>there was.

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:10.840
<v Speaker 8>They were both.

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Funny, right, But they put it in me on the

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 1>countertop and uh, and that immediately got an NC seventeen.

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:22.240
<v Speaker 1>So then they go to they go to me standing

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 1>up against the counter and then turning around, you know,

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>holding the pie, and this is true story. They that

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>also got an NC seventeen. And basically what it came

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 1>down to, my understanding is that it came down the

0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 1>from an NC seven, we got multiple NC seventeens, and

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the way we got it down finally to an R

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 1>rating was the number of thrusts.

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 8>Into the pie.

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So ultimately that was the big fight It wasn't

0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 1>over f words.

0:51:58.239 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 8>You know, there's a standards like you're.

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.320
<v Speaker 6>Allowed how three or whatever?

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whatever, It was the number of thrusts into the pie.

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:08.879
<v Speaker 1>And so it was started here and it ultimately came

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>down to because I guess two thrusts is an R

0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 1>but three thrust is an EMT seventy, So amazing.

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 3>How country to.

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 2>A question that I that I've I have for a

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 2>lot for actors in general, because this came up to me.

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.879
<v Speaker 2>I worked with Serena Vincent on a movie called Cabin

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Fever and she had just come off not another teen

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 2>movie where she was naked the entire movie, like that

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:35.600
<v Speaker 2>was the joke. And then we were doing Cabin Fever

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.840
<v Speaker 2>and she was very nervous about partial nudity that we

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 2>had to do in the movie and I was like, what,

0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 2>you were completely naked and she's like, that was for comedy. Yeah,

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 2>that was totally fine. If I have to be sexy,

0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:48.240
<v Speaker 2>that's a whole different type of pressure. And my brain

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 2>just went, oh god, that makes so much sense. So

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 2>how did you feel? Were you totally fine with all

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.200
<v Speaker 2>the nudity and sex stuff because it was pure comedy

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 2>or was there part of you that was also kind

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 2>of like, uh, uncomfortable or nervous about any of that.

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 8>That's a great I love hearing that story because that's

0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 8>exactly how I've always sort of seen it. Yeah.

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I I always sort of thought like, oh, I'll do

0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 1>anything for a joke, like like you know what I mean,

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Like there's no sort of that being said. I do

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>remember thinking the day that I showed, the day that

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 1>we did the pie scene, being a little concerned because again,

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:27.360
<v Speaker 1>at this point, I mean, we had had this great past,

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 1>the table we'd killed. We'd been shooting for about a

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:31.399
<v Speaker 1>week or two at that point, so we had had

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>great footage, like the chemistry, everything was lining up the

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>way it was supposed to line up. But there was

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:39.840
<v Speaker 1>still a part of me that thought, is this pornography?

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 8>Is anyone going to see?

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:42.879
<v Speaker 2>This?

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:43.719
<v Speaker 5>Is?

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Just? Am I like going to make a complete to

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>myself and never work again?

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:51.759
<v Speaker 8>Just you know those young like kid like I've got

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:54.800
<v Speaker 8>this opportunity, but am I gonna blow? Like just those

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 8>kinds of thoughts. And I called my.

0:53:56.640 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Manager at the time that morning from my trailer. I

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 1>remember calling him being like, is this I'm gonna go

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in there and I'm gonna do this right, like I'm

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna go and good pie. And he's like, yes, you

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 1>are the one hundred percent are.

0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:13.320
<v Speaker 3>Multiple times from multiple angles.

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what you are going to do it, and you

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>were going to love it and you're going.

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:21.240
<v Speaker 2>To do it for more movies.

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 8>But I remember, and then that was that. Then that

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 8>was it.

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And and I'll tell you what really cemented the exact

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 1>thing that Serena said, Serena, you said, right, Serena vin said, Yeah,

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the exact thing where it was totally cemented for me

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.279
<v Speaker 1>and I've lived by it to this day and I've

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 1>never questioned it again.

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:42.240
<v Speaker 8>Was I shot the scene.

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 1>We did one take and we cut and there was

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like a half second pause and then the entire crew

0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:54.799
<v Speaker 1>burst out laughing. Yes and I and and that was

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:58.439
<v Speaker 1>the moment where so many things happened for me. One,

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the Serena Vincent school of comedy was planted in me forever.

0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 8>And two I thought, oh, I think this movie is

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 8>gonna yeah it be something.

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was like, this is this is actually I

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:14.879
<v Speaker 1>think this is and not because of me. It wasn't

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 1>about me. It was about it was about oh, this

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:21.879
<v Speaker 1>is we are doing something that that like is I've

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:25.879
<v Speaker 1>never seen this, And all sixty three people who were

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 1>standing around me right now just went holy yeah, And I.

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 8>Was like, this is okay. I think we I think

0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:34.279
<v Speaker 8>we're cooking.

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:36.600
<v Speaker 5>With It did something in the It also did something

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 5>for people our age in the industry, where it had

0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 5>been we'd gotten very wholesome.

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 3>By that point again in Hollywood, and this brought.

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 11>Us right back to those great early eighties movies, the

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:51.480
<v Speaker 11>Animal House and Meatballs and the stuff I grew up

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 11>watching Fast Times at Ridgemont High where it was like there,

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:58.359
<v Speaker 11>it wasn't pornography. It was just kind of real how

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:01.360
<v Speaker 11>kids talked and were at parties and drank beer and

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 11>and we got away. Especially when we're doing something like

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 11>Boy Meets World, we were the very squeaky clean and

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 11>we're also on a squeaky clean night and we've got

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 11>other squeaky clean shows around us.

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 3>So I know that myself as an actor.

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 5>When I saw American Pie for the first time, it

0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:17.320
<v Speaker 5>was like, oh, thank God, it's back, and I was like,

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.879
<v Speaker 5>there's more back like this, Like the things I grew

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:22.839
<v Speaker 5>up watching are coming back again, and it brought it.

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:27.280
<v Speaker 5>It started that entire new generation of what young actors

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:30.279
<v Speaker 5>were capable of again comedically, and so it was just

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 5>wonderfully like, oh thank god, it was like a breath

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:32.879
<v Speaker 5>of fresh air again.

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 8>Great.

0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 7>Do you think in twenty twenty six you would have

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:41.160
<v Speaker 7>an intimacy coordinator with the pie?

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:43.720
<v Speaker 8>I think the pie would request.

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 6>It that I too.

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you also have to look at the expiration date?

0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 3>How old is that pie?

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:51.759
<v Speaker 5>So it's also important.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I cannot believe I've made will I.

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<v Speaker 2>Will, We'll just take it to the next level.

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Nice, Well, well I am.

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:06.600
<v Speaker 10>I am so happy and in the press right now

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:10.919
<v Speaker 10>because I have literally heard or made every pie joke

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:15.279
<v Speaker 10>possible in twenty seven years, and that is the expiration

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 10>day age.

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:18.920
<v Speaker 8>Of the pie is when I have not heard that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is no congratulations?

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, sure, I think we've gone that at the

0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>expiration data.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 7>How long does it take American pie comes out?

0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 6>Or not even maybe before even before it comes out?

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:50.280
<v Speaker 7>How long does it take to feel the difference in

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 7>your everyday life? Like there has to be a before

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 7>and an after for you? When does when does the

0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:56.280
<v Speaker 7>after start?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Also a great questions kind of two times, I'd say,

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 1>because actually the first real moment, I think again, putting aside,

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, the pipe we shot this, the crew last,

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, where we have something, you know, putting aside

0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the table read that we hear for the first.

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 8>Time and you go, oh, this is special.

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Putting aside all those moments, I'd say one that really

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 1>stands out is when the Red Band trailer came out,

0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 1>so in like January or something. We shot in the

0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:30.600
<v Speaker 1>summer and it came out in the summer. It was

0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:35.000
<v Speaker 1>one year and in like that winter time they released

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a Red Band trailer, which, if you remember, Red Band

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:41.960
<v Speaker 1>trailers were a very big deal. Is awesome that you'd

0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 1>go to the movie theater and you'd see the previews

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and that it'd be like, you know, green giant, green screen.

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>The following preview is rated PG, and you'd see the

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 1>trailer and then very occasionally the screen would be all

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 1>red and you'd be like, what is this? What's happening here?

0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>And the trailer itself was ed R and it could

0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:05.439
<v Speaker 1>only be seen before other R rated movies, and that

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>got sort of that became viral and the very beginning

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:13.520
<v Speaker 1>days of virality, and and what happened was the reason

0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:17.440
<v Speaker 1>it was a Red Band was because they showed me

0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:20.720
<v Speaker 1>in the Pie and I remember thinking they had sent

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.240
<v Speaker 1>me the trailer before it came out in the theaters,

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and I remember, you know, nineteen years old, going, guys,

0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you're making a mistake here. You don't want to give

0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>away the pie scene.

0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 8>But you know, like like I knew anything, you know, but.

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking, you don't want to. Why would you

0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 1>give away the pie? Isn't that the thing you want

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>to And it turned out to be, of course, the

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 1>most brilliant. It was a quick It was a quick thing,

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.640
<v Speaker 1>but enough to where the people in the audience were like,

0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, did.

0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 8>He just did I just see him right this movie?

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:54.240
<v Speaker 8>Now I see the thing? Yeah?

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 1>And it was brilliant and so so I started getting

0:59:57.920 --> 0:59:59.320
<v Speaker 1>recognized from the trailer.

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.880
<v Speaker 8>Wow. So I remember that was the first for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like the first time where I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, I think, yeah, this this this is

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<v Speaker 1>not only something special and good, but actually could be

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<v Speaker 1>something like beyond any of our sort of you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course that when the movie came out,

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<v Speaker 1>like that weekend, I remember, you know, walking to get

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<v Speaker 1>a bagel and being recognized and like, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>crossing literally crossing the street and the car stopping and

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<v Speaker 1>then rolling down their windows like Saturday morning, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then rolling down the.

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<v Speaker 8>Window and like going, hey, do the dance like that quick?

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<v Speaker 8>You know. It was like literally, well.

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<v Speaker 5>It's also it was written in such a way. The

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<v Speaker 5>script is so wonderful that it's kind of one quotable

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<v Speaker 5>moment after another, you know. I mean, it's it's in

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<v Speaker 5>the zeitgeist where it's just it is you're you're all

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<v Speaker 5>these little moments that that lasts forever.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was every character. That was the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>was so great about it was there wasn't one.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, obviously there's people that stood out a little more,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was as a crew, it was cutting to

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<v Speaker 5>these different storylines, and as an ensemble cast, it just

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<v Speaker 5>everybody had their beats and it all worked so well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite, My favorite thing that I would hear in

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<v Speaker 1>the months and even years after is it was when

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<v Speaker 1>people would tell me who they were in the friend group.

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<v Speaker 8>Guys in particular, you know, but like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was odds, I'm oz in our friend group, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like people would I because people identified with with those friendships,

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of relationships it was very it was very cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you know, yeah, you know, look, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>you can't make that movie today. It's obviously a time capsule.

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<v Speaker 1>There's certain scenes you certainly couldn't couldn't do today, but

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<v Speaker 1>as a time capsule and as a sort of reflection

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<v Speaker 1>of the kinds of experiences that high school kids had

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of being more authentic than just a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of glossy kind of you know, clean kind kind of experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, it's sort of hit in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that other movies didn't.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Think one commonality between all of us who got famous

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<v Speaker 7>in the nineties or the two thousands is that at

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<v Speaker 7>some point we all found ourselves in completely insane situations

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<v Speaker 7>as new celebrities. Whether it's Shaquille O'Neal deciding to hold

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<v Speaker 7>me over his head, or Writer being on the Oprah

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<v Speaker 7>Winfrey Show talking about fan Mail, or Will writing Tower

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<v Speaker 7>of Terror with Bill ny the Science Guy, they all

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<v Speaker 7>sound like mad libs. Is there any Is there any

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<v Speaker 7>insane situation that you can specifically remember yourself being in

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<v Speaker 7>after American Pie came out that you'd like to share

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<v Speaker 7>with us, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember walking by Writer Strong's part, I have made it.

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<v Speaker 8>Terrible. Yeah, driver, Oh my god, I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean you must have gone to every Maxim

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<v Speaker 7>party and every.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes Maxim party, every Maxim party, every every time there

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<v Speaker 1>was a new PlayStation.

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<v Speaker 8>I was there because I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, oh my god, the Maxim Party of Jesus, yep, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all the things.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I've yeah, in the late nineties, early two thousands, LA,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I was, you know, I had I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of made a group of friends out there who

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<v Speaker 1>were you know, we all wanted to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>hang and party, and I partied with crew. One member, well, Eddie.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie was part of my crew, but the rest were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of not actors. One was like my my downstairs

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor at the first apartment I lived in LA, who

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<v Speaker 1>ended up we became roommates ourselves, and he was just

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<v Speaker 1>like our bud and became friends with Eddie to so

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<v Speaker 1>me Eddie. This guy and then another guy who I

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<v Speaker 1>met on a blind date. I'm gonna tell you this

1:04:06.400 --> 1:04:08.920
<v Speaker 1>story because it does have a payoff. Met this guy

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<v Speaker 1>in a blind date. His brother was working at Warner

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers at the time, and this was like in that

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<v Speaker 1>year between filming American Pie and it coming out. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going out in all these generals, right, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, like I got a new movie coming out, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I met this guy at Warner Brothers Greg Silverman,

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<v Speaker 1>and he and I was, you know, new to La,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a lot of friends, and he said, you

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<v Speaker 1>should meet my brother.

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<v Speaker 8>You'd really like if you guys would really get along.

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<v Speaker 1>So he put me and gave me a phone number

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<v Speaker 1>and called this guy and he's like Jason. I was like, yeah, doron.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like yeah, He's like, listen, come up to meet me.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a house party going on in the hills

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday night. I got a bunch of girls coming

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<v Speaker 1>up from San Diego. I'm like, yes, yes, yes. It

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<v Speaker 1>was my first time going to the hills by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like this is crazy. But anyway, he

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<v Speaker 1>and I became best friends immediately. He ended up marrying

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's sister, so we are now. I met my

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<v Speaker 1>wife on a blind date. I met him on a

1:05:03.840 --> 1:05:05.520
<v Speaker 1>blind date. We were friends for ten years. Then I

1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:08.800
<v Speaker 1>meet my wife on a blind date and he's my

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<v Speaker 1>best man. My wife's sister is her maid of honor.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they end up getting married like two years later,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they have three boys and we have two boys. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, so it's still kind of have my crew

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know, one related now and yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I answered, what's I don't know what?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The late the night that that that period in LA

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<v Speaker 1>it was, yeah, it was, it was wild. It was wild,

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<v Speaker 1>it was wild, it was and yeahs man, those.

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<v Speaker 8>Nights, yes, oh my god. Absolutely, dublins on I mean

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<v Speaker 8>there were.

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<v Speaker 6>Dublin Yeah, who wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 7>So after the success of American Pie, do you feel

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<v Speaker 7>pigeonholed at all? I mean, here you are, daytime Emmy

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<v Speaker 7>nominated actor, a Saison Broadway actor, and a Pulitzer Prize

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<v Speaker 7>finalist play and now you're the king of sex comedy.

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<v Speaker 6>Is there anything that you.

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<v Speaker 7>Really wanted, like a role you really really wanted and

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<v Speaker 7>you just feel like you missed out on because they

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<v Speaker 7>couldn't see past it?

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<v Speaker 1>Really good question, I mean, I I'm yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, I mean I remember, like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't think of specifics.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I definitely there were like dramatic roles that

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly was like, oh, this would be great, I

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<v Speaker 1>could do this.

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<v Speaker 8>And then just kind of, you know, not even really

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<v Speaker 8>And but you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I never sort of let it get to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, because I always felt like it just really

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<v Speaker 1>psyched to be able to get any of the roles

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<v Speaker 1>that I know sounds so trite and weird, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I truly I think because I had been fired from

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<v Speaker 1>shows as a kid, I had gotten what I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was my big break and then it gets canceled, and

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<v Speaker 1>had that happened a few times, and like I had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of seen that already that even with American Pie,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it was clearly different and had set me

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<v Speaker 1>up in a different way, I still kind of thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just had a different appreciation for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never never took it for granted and still don't.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though I would sort of think I think

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is yes, you're one hundred percent, there are

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<v Speaker 1>definitely roles I did not get and continue to not

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<v Speaker 1>get because.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Jim and American Pie one million percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't trade it for anything, Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>ever going to complain about it. I will admit to

1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it I'm fully aware of it, and it still happens, and.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll get I will get like I will get.

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<v Speaker 1>Bumped still, you know, because i know I'm still carrying

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<v Speaker 1>some of that baggage with me.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's also like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to be carrying the bags too, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>have these great.

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<v Speaker 8>Full suitcases and I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, however, many years later and I'm still working enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm you know, I can pay.

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<v Speaker 8>My mortgage and I'm I'm like, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's and we all know the so many people who

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<v Speaker 1>are not still here doing what they like to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and like so so so honestly, like the answer is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's tons of jobs that I wish I got and

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<v Speaker 1>that I know I didn't get because I'm Jim in

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<v Speaker 1>American Pie.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, But there's also job that I got because I'm Jim.

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<v Speaker 1>In America, more than the ones I didn't, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>So we spoke to another one of our shared co stars,

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<v Speaker 7>mit A Suvari on our podcast, and we chatted about

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<v Speaker 7>a new American Pie movie, American Funeral.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you know about it? Is?

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<v Speaker 7>Is it?

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<v Speaker 6>What do what can you tell us?

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you about America's VIP I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I have no I I honestly have no idea.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean that's been sort of floated. I thought more

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<v Speaker 8>like a joke. I've never seen anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea that actually feels like it has had

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<v Speaker 1>some legs, uh is, and it's and also because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's fairly obvious and I'm not going to take

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<v Speaker 1>credit for it.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Sean's talked about it. I've talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like an everyone's kind of thought about it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is we're now at the age because in the

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<v Speaker 1>last American Pie, I had like a three year old

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<v Speaker 1>I think son. Now, if we made the movie, they

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<v Speaker 1>would be that kid would be high school age, so

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<v Speaker 1>be yeah, so so so I think the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>if we were to do one right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be I'm Eugene, Eugene is the

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather of my son, and then you kind of pass

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<v Speaker 1>it off to the next generation.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's kind of the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we talked about Sean maybe having a daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he's got to deal with his own

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, uh, his from the past. Right, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many factors that need to you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>no brainer.

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<v Speaker 5>It would do really well, which is why they'll never

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<v Speaker 5>ever make it. You know, well, so smart, so smart,

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<v Speaker 5>it makes total sense, So let's not do it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's such a weird business right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, the only question that I can answer

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<v Speaker 1>with full confidence is you know, would I do it?

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<v Speaker 8>And the answers yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, yeah, you know, And not because it's any

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<v Speaker 1>reflection of sort of like career or what it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do it because I think people would

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<v Speaker 1>like it. I think people ask me about it daily,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I know there's an appetite for these to

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<v Speaker 1>see these characters and to see where they are now.

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<v Speaker 8>And because it's the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun I've ever had working, Like of course I would

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<v Speaker 1>do it, you know, like forget about all the other stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just it would be so much fun. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hope, I hope one day it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of all the ducks line up and we'll see.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's talk about untitled home Invasion romance you've produced in

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<v Speaker 7>the past. But what made you want to direct and

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<v Speaker 7>how did the script get to you?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So the script came to me just to act in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was sent as an offer to you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>little indie which you know, we've all gotten the indie offer.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, those conversations can go one of two ways,

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<v Speaker 1>usually the one way, which is, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, we have an offer. It's a it's it's no

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<v Speaker 8>you can read it or not. I'm like, okay, thanks

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<v Speaker 8>for getting me from my agent. You know, like I'm

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<v Speaker 8>really excited.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 8>I read it. What a glowing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, please send it, send it to Yeah, Jesus, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what my ego needs right now.

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<v Speaker 8>And but this one, you know, my age.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been looking in earnest for something to direct.

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<v Speaker 8>Probably for the last like five years or so.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I think ever since I was a little kid,

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<v Speaker 1>just being on sets and stuff, I've always kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thought that would be fun, you know, that'd be cool

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<v Speaker 1>and and and also just sort of you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>a set kid and just kind of being around all

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<v Speaker 1>these directors all these years and you just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>learned and you just kind of get set savvy. And

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like, you know, I even go

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<v Speaker 1>to film school, so admittedly I knew that on the

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<v Speaker 1>photographic side of things, the technical side of things, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot to learn. But I always felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I could work with actors like I know what I

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<v Speaker 1>want from a director, I know how I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be talked to from a director, Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I could contribute there if the actors trust me.

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<v Speaker 8>And but I'd say yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like the last five years or so, I've

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<v Speaker 1>really been looking and I was attached to something that

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<v Speaker 1>was more American pie ish for a while, really funny script.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought I could maybe do something with it, but ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>decided that it was maybe a little too much.

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<v Speaker 8>Like American Pie.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about acting and like how I've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get sort of pigeonholed, and that's I felt different.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like for my first directing thing, I did

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<v Speaker 1>want to try to like hold out for something maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little a little different, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know I saw it as as different.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought I wanted to do something a little

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<v Speaker 1>more unexpected on that front if I.

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<v Speaker 8>Had the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing, is like what you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, It's like it's all about luck and timing

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<v Speaker 1>and opportunity as well. And you know, I get a

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<v Speaker 1>call from my agent and he's like, I got this

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<v Speaker 1>Indian I'm right, and he said no, no, no, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, it's actually, uh, I think it's you'll like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really cool script, it's a fun role, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think this might be the one you want to direct.

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<v Speaker 8>And I was like, really okay, and I read it

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<v Speaker 8>and he was right. I like, I fully agreed, and.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we just kind of went back to the

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<v Speaker 1>one producer who was attached at the time and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of we all sort of agreed that, you know, I could,

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<v Speaker 1>I could pursue it as as the director, and I

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<v Speaker 1>went to some people I had worked with in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were able to raise the money and get

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<v Speaker 1>it into production. Yeah, So it was just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>and and and and yeah, I just felt like, you know, it, comedically,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like lines up a bit more with my

1:13:58.960 --> 1:14:02.280
<v Speaker 1>sensibilities as they stand right now, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I love all comedy and I'm a I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but this felt a little darker and weirder and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of quirkier. And it's just more of my speed, I think. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the movies that I like to watch now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the sort of the the Coen Brothers type

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<v Speaker 1>that I am not. I am not a Coen brother,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was. It felt to me like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>lives in that sort of world. I like this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this was kind of fun. So yeah, I'm just and

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, just luck that I'm able was able to

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<v Speaker 1>like find a producer with a checkbook that was willing

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<v Speaker 1>to back me with.

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<v Speaker 8>No directing experience. No, you know, I don't have a

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<v Speaker 8>short film.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have.

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<v Speaker 8>Anything to show for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I happened to work with him on a movie that

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<v Speaker 1>there were a bunch of kid actors in and the

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<v Speaker 1>director was having a hard time. I shouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 1>she she she's wonderful, but she, by her own admission,

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<v Speaker 1>she was basically look wanted me to help her with

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<v Speaker 1>these kid actors because she knew that I was a

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<v Speaker 1>kid actor. So I was helping direct these kids, like

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<v Speaker 1>giving them kind of notes in a language that I

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<v Speaker 1>had already that I was fluent in.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, And the producer was like, do you want to direct?

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<v Speaker 8>Like you know? And I was like, yeah, I do

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<v Speaker 8>as a matter of fact. And so it was that

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<v Speaker 8>producer that I went back to and.

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<v Speaker 1>Said listen, man, because he was like, come to me

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<v Speaker 1>if you you know, if you have anything, and I said, hey.

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<v Speaker 8>Man, remember months back.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I got something for you if you really

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, great, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 8>And so to his credit, you know, he he he

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<v Speaker 8>backed me.

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<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, and now I've you know, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>I've lost all his money, but you know, whatever.

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<v Speaker 8>I have, I have a real.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I really do feel like through talking to

1:15:51.320 --> 1:15:54.760
<v Speaker 7>you that you there's like a really strong theme through

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<v Speaker 7>your life which is like a real go big or

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<v Speaker 7>go home, diving into the deep end. And now you're

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<v Speaker 7>doing it by directing and starring in your own project.

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<v Speaker 7>So you should be very very proud of yourself. You've

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<v Speaker 7>worked with some real heavy hitter directors in your career.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you feel like there was anything in particular you

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<v Speaker 7>took from any one of them that helped you in

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<v Speaker 7>this process? Any shout outs you want to give?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? Yeah, I mean, excuse me, the that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for asking that. I think the Weiss brothers

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, who directed the First American Pie. I think

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<v Speaker 1>about them a lot because that was their first movie directing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've actually worked with a lot of first

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<v Speaker 1>time directors, as I'm sure you guys have, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are able to come in and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do it and do it well, and you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they belong here, and some of them you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I would do this differently or not. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the White's brothers that I'll never forget, in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to them just being so smart and so funny

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, justlli and the fact that they worked so

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<v Speaker 1>well together, was their openness and their eagerness to collaborate.

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<v Speaker 8>They were never like we got this moving on here.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a confidence, of course, but there was never

1:17:16.439 --> 1:17:21.120
<v Speaker 1>a cockiness. There was never a They always had the

1:17:21.160 --> 1:17:26.200
<v Speaker 1>attitude from what I sensed of. You are the production

1:17:26.280 --> 1:17:30.479
<v Speaker 1>designer because you production design better than I production design.

1:17:31.120 --> 1:17:33.759
<v Speaker 1>You are the cinematographer because you know how to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>and I do not.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm going to oversee.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this and I'm gonna but I'm inviting all

1:17:39.360 --> 1:17:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of you to teach me and show me.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm but and so, and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>I think huge, you know, like, because I didn't.

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<v Speaker 8>I had a lot to learn, a lot to learn, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't come into this going you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>got this and or even like I mean, I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to show a certain amount of confidence and I

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<v Speaker 1>had confidence in some areas more than others. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>talking to the actors, I felt like I had some confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>But I also didn't want to like fake it till

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<v Speaker 1>you make it either, because I don't think that for me.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I didn't think that would apply here. I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather come into it and say, there's things I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, and I need you guys to teach me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to have opinions on those things, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ultimately make decisions based on what you

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<v Speaker 1>teach me. But I'm not going to pretend to know

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<v Speaker 1>what I don't know. And that was the Whites Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>for me, like I just remember them. And also trusting

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<v Speaker 1>the actors, like really like you know, they they trusted

1:18:43.680 --> 1:18:47.040
<v Speaker 1>their casting decisions and so they were and then once

1:18:47.080 --> 1:18:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the actors were sort of comfortable, they trusted them to

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<v Speaker 1>contribute in the way that they you know, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, they really stand out for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>indebted to them for sure. Kevin Smith someone who I've

1:19:00.640 --> 1:19:03.040
<v Speaker 1>worked with a bonch and just like he, you know,

1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:07.000
<v Speaker 1>he everyone wants to be there. Everyone who's on a

1:19:07.080 --> 1:19:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Smith set wants to be there because they like

1:19:11.040 --> 1:19:13.320
<v Speaker 1>working for him. They think it's fun, they think they're

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<v Speaker 1>making something special, you know, you know, I, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a name that I'll be very specific about, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I took from it. But like I worked

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<v Speaker 1>with Woody Allen and I that's where I fell in

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<v Speaker 1>love with the one one shot with the woner, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I.

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<v Speaker 8>Had never I in American Pile.

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<v Speaker 1>We had done one or two sort of long wonner

1:19:34.800 --> 1:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>shots that I remember thinking, Wow, this is really really cool.

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<v Speaker 8>Very theatrical.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when I did the Woody Allen movie, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we were we did almost like there were so

1:19:44.920 --> 1:19:50.640
<v Speaker 1>many wonners like constantly, and I just remember feeling so

1:19:50.840 --> 1:19:54.320
<v Speaker 1>incredibly engaged as a performer because it was very theatrical.

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<v Speaker 8>It was very you know in the pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it was also very traumatic for me, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like what he can be was very it was very nervous.

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<v Speaker 8>It was very nerve wracking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole nother story we could get into. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure I bought trauma around it.

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<v Speaker 8>But but.

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<v Speaker 1>More I should talk about his cinematographer that I work with,

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<v Speaker 1>just how he put these shots together. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought if I ever direct, like I have to

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<v Speaker 1>find space for one, I have to like find at

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<v Speaker 1>least one you know, won Er in this and the

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<v Speaker 1>movie untitled Invasion Romance is not very conducive.

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<v Speaker 8>To that style of filmmaking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's much more kinetic, and so it's the it just

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<v Speaker 1>but we found one scene. We found one scene my

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<v Speaker 1>DP and I that we both agreed, We're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this one, right, Yes, it's this one, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to do that and that was always

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to shooting that from day one.

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<v Speaker 8>So that was really cool. But yeah, I don't know, man, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just feel like I've just tried to pay attention, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>guys like you guys just been you just like even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not intentionally actively paying attention, you've just been

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<v Speaker 1>on sets for so long, Like I would trust any

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<v Speaker 1>one of you guys to direct me because you know

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<v Speaker 1>what's up.

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<v Speaker 8>You know you just like you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've worked with people who you know not that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that, and you've worked with the

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<v Speaker 1>people who you go, oh that's what I should do.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, Jason, you are so fascinating. This has

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<v Speaker 7>been such a wonderful conversation. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 7>joining us, and for all of you listening. You can

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<v Speaker 7>watch untitled Home Invasion Romance, directed by and starring Jason

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<v Speaker 7>Biggs right now on demand, rent, or purchase it on

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<v Speaker 7>Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Google Play, or YouTube.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you again for being here with us.

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<v Speaker 8>It was so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are awesome. Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are great.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, it's great.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Joy the rest of your day.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, do love to Jensen, take care of guys, Bye,

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<v Speaker 8>take care bye.

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<v Speaker 6>What a career I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that we only covered up to ninety nine though.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys, we still have another to bring him back because

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<v Speaker 5>that was one of my favorite interviews we've done.

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<v Speaker 7>I I agree, so fascinating, so interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>So fun.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, just I mean yeah, and there were I could

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<v Speaker 7>tell there were endless more things I could have asked

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<v Speaker 7>him about and stories he could have shared.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got twenty five years still to cover.

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