1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to a special World Series edition of Fair Territory. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm Ken Rosenthalby with you for the next half hour 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: or so. I'm coming to you live from Toronto, scene 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: of obviously a great Game seven the other night, and 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: the sight of Game one of the World Series. Yes, 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays have home field advantage over the Los 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers because the Blue Jays finished with a better 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: record than the Dodgers, who spent the regular season kind 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: of yawning and sleepwalking. Well, not that much, but you 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Now, I'm not going to do 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: in this show today detail the analysis, breakdown of positions, 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: or anything like that. First of all, other people are 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: doing that. You can read them elsewhere. Second of all 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: those things, it never seems to play out the way 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: we all think it's going to play out, so at 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: least for purposes of this show, I just don't know 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: that it's worth our time. I'm also not going to 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: make any predictions because anyone who follows me knows my 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: predictions are god awful terrible, been wrong all year, been 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: wrong my whole career with predictions. So not doing any predictions. 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: What we're going to do today at least to start 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: the show is talk about legacies that might be on 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: the line, legacies that could be enhanced by a World 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: series triumph or I guess diminished by a loss. This 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: is an idea that came from our producer, Jeremy Meyer, 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: and I really like it because it's a lot of 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: fun to think about the people who are involved in 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: this world series. You've seen some talk already about Don 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: manningly his first World series as a coach with the 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. Now never got there as a player. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: But let's talk about the people more directly involved. Actually 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Matty is directly involved, but I'm talking about the managers 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: and the players. And we'll start with the Dodgers, because 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the Dodgers are really interesting. Most of their big stars, 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: their legacies are well established. They're going to the Hall 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: of Fame. I'm talking about of course Betts and Kershaw 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: and Freeman and yes Otani too, He's going to the 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. All of these players I have one MVPs. 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: They've all won World Series titles. Mookie Betts has three 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: World Series titles already. Freddie Freeman has two Mookie one 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: with Boston, two with La Freddy one with Atlanta, one 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: with la Kershaw has two technically, but he didn't participate 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: last year, so the only one in which he participated 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: was the COVID year twenty twenty. And Otani, of course, 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: after joining the Dodgers last year, he has of course 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: one World Series title as well. So those guys, they're 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: all set with their legacies and their prominence in the sport. 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: The one thing I do want to mention here, though, 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts and what he has done this season in 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: playing shortstop for a full year. I don't know that 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: he's gotten enough love for that, honestly, because it's an 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: incredible achievement to do what he is doing in his 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: early thirties, going from an easier defensive position to a 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: more difficult one. Shortstop is one of the most difficult 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: positions on the field to play, and he has played 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: it at an extremely high level. He rates out well 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: according to all the advanced metrics. We talk about Otani 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: and the miracle of Otani, what he does as a player, 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Lookie Bets, you can't put him in that category. He 60 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: doesn't pitch, but his transition from right field to shortstop again, 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: in my view, under play now Dave Roberts, let's talk 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: about him too. He can be another manager joining a 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: list that have won three World Series. He's actually been 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: to five World Series now in his first ten years 65 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: as manager. Dodgers have been to five in the last 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: nine years. Roberts the first manager ever to accomplish that 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: five World Series in his first ten years. Not all 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: were victories, but he was there. And if he gets 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: to be a three time World Series champion, for me, 70 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: he already probably is in the Hall of Fame, but 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: this would lock it up all other ten managers who 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: have won three World Series. All the others are in 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, except for Bruce Bochi, who is 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: going to be in the Hall of Fame. So for 75 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts, yeap. He can enhance his legacy too, but 76 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: his two is kind of already established. So, as I mentioned, 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: our producer Jeremy Meyer came up with this idea and 78 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: his thought for the one guy that can really enhance 79 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: his legacy is Blake Snell. Blake Snell, two times Cy 80 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: Young Winner, has had a tremendous career, will be the 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: game one starter as you see there, and if you 82 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: recall his one appearance in the World Series twenty twenty, 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: the COVID year, Tampa Bay versus Los Angeles. He was 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay, game six, five and a third innings, 85 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: He's allowed two hits, he's allowed no runs. He gets 86 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: pulled with a one nothing lead, and we all know 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: what happened. It disintegrated from there, and that was not 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Blake Snell's fault. Of course, Blake Snell was pulled probably 89 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: prematurely in that game. But here's a guy that if 90 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: he adds a World Series title to his resume, it 91 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: enhances him that much further, and he's going to be 92 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: an interesting case down the line if he keeps going 93 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: in Hall of Fame voters thought processes, because as we've 94 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: discussed on other shows, there are going to be pitchers 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: considered with far fewer innings than those in the past 96 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: because of the way the game is played now. Blake 97 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: Snell is kind of a classic example of that hasn't 98 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: been the healthiest, doesn't really have the workload that you 99 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: would want, at least to this point of a Hall 100 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: of Fame picture, But at a World Series to his 101 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: two cy youngs, one in each league, it gets a 102 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: little bit interesting for him. So those are the Dodgers possibilities. Now, 103 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: when you talk about the Blue Jays, Max Scherzer, he 104 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: already has two World Series titles twenty nineteen and twenty 105 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: twenty three Nationals and the Texas Rangers. But Vladimir Guerrero Junior, 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: this will be his first World Series and he is 107 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: a guy that, of course has performed at an extremely 108 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: high level in the postseason so far. I want to 109 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: show you something right here, because this is unbelievably telling 110 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: about Vladimir Guerrero and how he has played in the 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: first two rounds of this postseason and where he ranks 112 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: all time compared to some of the other greats in 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: the game. All right, here is all time postseason batting. 114 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: I used a minimum of forty eight bats here. It's 115 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: a random number, but that's the number I used. And 116 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: look at the ops's here, Bonds Beltron, Jordan Alvarez in 117 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: twenty three and Guerrero Junior this year. Those are the 118 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: top four all time. Now, the problem for vladd Junior 119 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: is that his number is likely to go down because 120 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: he's facing the Dodgers' pitching staff that just had a 121 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: historic run for really the last month or so and 122 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: especially in the LCS and the postseason in general. So 123 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see if he can keep 124 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: it going. To me, his legacy too, is somewhat established already. Now, yes, 125 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: he has to win a World Series and maybe multiple 126 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: World Series to be in a different category. But what 127 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: he has done is I wrote the other day, he's 128 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: proven already why he was worth five hundred million over 129 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: fourteen years. Now, you gotta read the column I mentioned. Yes, 130 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: he's going to decline in his thirties, they all do. 131 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: We get that, but the impact he is making on 132 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,559 Speaker 1: his franchise, on his city, on his country right now 133 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: is something that is not tangible. The money he is 134 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: generating for the Blue Jays, they're creating fans for life 135 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: right now. So he's had a really good run, and yes, 136 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: a World Series title would only enhance things for him. 137 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: The guy here who might stand the most to gain, 138 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: I would say it's probably George Springer. Now, George Springer 139 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: is a really interesting case. It's already played into two 140 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: World Series, one one in twenty seventeen. That one, of course, 141 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: is tainted because the Astros stole signs illegally and were 142 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: later penalized by the commissioner for that. But George Springer 143 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: now tied for third all time on the list of 144 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: postseason home runs. I'll show you the list right here. 145 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting, to say the least, and he is 146 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: climbing that list minute by minute, it seems. George Springer 147 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: with twenty three career postseason runs. You see him there. 148 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: He's tied with Kyle Schwarber, behind Al Twove, behind Manny Ramirez, 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: Manny at twenty nine, al Tuove at twenty seven, Springer 150 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: and Schwarber at twenty three, Bernie Williams at twenty two. 151 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to discuss in the inside dish more 152 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: of the Springer legacy and how we look at the 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: players who were part of the twenty seventeen Astros. But 154 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: in terms of sheer accomplishment what he has done, my goodness, 155 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: hard to dispute George Springer as a great clutch postseason player. 156 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen was one year. There have been a lot 157 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: of other years he's been in the playoffs and done 158 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: really well. So Springer, to me, he can go down 159 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: as an even greater October legend if he does something 160 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: big to help the Blue Jays win this World Series. 161 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: I don't know that it will happen. The Dodgers obviously 162 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: are favored, but Springer elevated his legacy yet again with 163 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: the game seven to three run shot go ahead in 164 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: the seventh inning. He can do even more if in 165 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: this World Series he has a big performance. Finally, the 166 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: Blue Jay's front office another interesting element here. If you remember, 167 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: at the start of the season, I've talked about this, 168 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot vlad was not signed. The front office. Mark Shapiro, 169 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,479 Speaker 1: club president, and Ross Atkins, general manager were under heavy scrutiny. 170 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: It was thought they might not return after this season. 171 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: It was thought the Blue Jays might be sellers. They've 172 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: turned all of this around. So for Shapiro and Atkins, 173 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: who have been a lot of times criticized heavily in 174 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: Toronto and outside Toronto, this would be clearly something a 175 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: vindication for them. Actually it already is. The World Series 176 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: title would only make it that much better. So that's 177 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: it for the World Series as we look to Friday 178 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: night in Game one on Fox. All right, enough about 179 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: the World Series. We've got some major news today and 180 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: it's the San Francisco Giants hiring of Tony Vittello. The 181 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee baseball coach to be their next manager. This is 182 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: something of a historic move because you've not seen this before, 183 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: or at least not recently. I believe, like a nineteen 184 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: oh four they might have been a college coach going 185 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: to the majors. But whatever, Fatello is the new Giants manager. 186 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: The Athletic reported on this a few days ago, how 187 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: the Giants were closing in and they get their man. 188 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was kind of a complicated financial situation. 189 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: Fittello had a really good deal at Tennessee. He had 190 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: a three million dollars buyout, and of course state taxes 191 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: in California are much higher than they were in Tennessee. 192 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: But for the Giants, and for Buster Posey, their president 193 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: of baseball operations, this is a monumental move. And Posey, 194 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: in his brief time in this position, former player, but 195 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: in his brief time in this position, has done some 196 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: really bold things. The Devors trade most of all, perhaps, 197 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: but this one is right there with it, and we'll 198 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: see how Tony Vittello fairs. It's clearly a shift in direction. 199 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: Max Scherzer was some one quite familiar, is someone quite 200 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: familiar with Tony Vittello. Vittello was his pitching coach at Missouri. 201 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: This was years ago, of course, in the two thousands, 202 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: and I spoken with chars are doing the playoffs about this. 203 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: He is very high on Tony Vittello. Thinks he's one 204 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: of these guys who is just a born leader. So 205 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: that's Vittello. Yesterday we had the news of Kurtzuzuki becoming 206 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Angels manager. I mentioned this. I believe 207 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: on ft. I've known Kurtzuzuki forever. I admire him. He's 208 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: a great guy. I'm sure he'll be a good leader. 209 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him, he's managing the Angels, and I don't 210 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: know that the Angels are particularly manageable. So we wish 211 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: Kurtzuzuki the best. But that's a tough spot to be 212 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: in and we'll see what happens there. Also, with regard 213 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: to the managers, there are so many jobs still open. 214 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: It's incredible. The Atlanta job is open, Baltimore, Washington, Colorado, Minnesota, 215 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: and San Diego still open. Texas has Schumacher, the Giants 216 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: have Vittello, the Angels have Zuzuki. We still have those 217 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: other jobs I just mentioned still open and We also 218 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: have a GM job open in Colorado as well. The 219 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: Athletics should have some news on that coming up later today, 220 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: not the final part of it, but just some names 221 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: that have been involved in the mix. One other thing 222 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: I want to mention before we go here and do 223 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: the inside dish Albert Pooholes. He was supposed to be 224 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: the leading candidate in Los Angeles for the Angels job initially, 225 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: that is what we reported and others as well. For 226 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it didn't happen. They couldn't reach a financial agreement. 227 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: Maybe Pooholes didn't want to take that job. But he 228 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: has been mentioned in other areas as well, other cities Baltimore, 229 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: which does not seem that realistic. They have not interviewed 230 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: him or anything yet. San Diego would be more intriguing 231 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: San Diego with Pooholes managing Machado and Tatis, that would 232 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: be to me something kind of to watch. That would 233 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: be kind of a fun, fascinating choice if the Padres 234 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: indeed make it. 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Well well, well, well, well. 265 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: All right, time now for the inside dish, the part 266 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: of the show where I talk about maybe a story 267 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: I've written, a trend in the game, something else going on. 268 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: This one is going to be a combination of sort 269 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: of all three of those things. I wrote after Game 270 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: seven about George Springer pretty obvious angle because of what 271 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: he had did and just the amazing performances with the 272 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: home run coming off the knee injury and all of that, 273 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: and it was a fun article to put together after 274 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: each game pretty much, I write even after the broadcast. 275 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Tom for Ducci does the same thing for SI dot Com. 276 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: We come back to our hotels and start cranking, and 277 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: I think Tom's a little faster than me in his writing. 278 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: I usually stay up pretty late. I don't really want 279 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: to say how late, But with the Springer article, I 280 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: had a lot ready with that, and obviously the moment 281 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: is what commanded the most attention in the story. But 282 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: I had already talked to Springer earlier in the postseason, 283 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: actually during the Yankee series, about his work with Michael Brantley, 284 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: his forward teammate with the Astros in twenty nineteen and 285 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: twenty and how in the off season Springer would go 286 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: to his house every day, Brantley's house. They lived pretty 287 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: close to each other in Florida, and they would work 288 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: and they worked on some things and it kind of 289 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: got George Springer back going again. Andres Jimenez was also 290 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: part of those sessions in many ways, in many days, 291 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: I should say. And that was a cool element that 292 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: I was waiting to write until Springer became a major 293 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: part of the story. I had that information and I 294 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: had that stuff that I had researched and talked to 295 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Brantley about to texted him, but was waiting for the 296 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: right time. The other part of it, the lead of 297 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: this story. The first part of it is about how 298 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: David Popkins, the Blue Jays hitting coach, said after Game six, 299 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: when I'm sorry. After Game five when Springer was hit, 300 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: they were in Seattle. Springer, of course, was in tremendous pain, 301 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: needed help down the stairs into the dugout, then into 302 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: the clubhouse. You saw him on the field. It was awful, 303 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: and Hopkins told him, hey, man, you're a legend. You're 304 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: gonna have your Kirk Gibson moment. And at that time, 305 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: of course, it didn't even seem possible. It wasn't even 306 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: clear Springer would be able to play in Game six, 307 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: so I kind of filed that away. Hopkins told me 308 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: that before Game six that he had mentioned that. I 309 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: think I mentioned it on the broadcast in the introduction 310 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: part of the show, but I didn't think much of it. 311 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: Springer wasn't the lineup for Game six, and he had 312 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: some good at bats before it. Later in the game 313 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: looking like he was kind of hurting, and he was 314 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: wearing a rap around his knee and it was part 315 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: heat to help the knee and part vibration to soothe 316 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: it with a kind of massaging feeling. So all of 317 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: that was in my head before this moment even happened 318 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: with Springer. Then the moment happens, of course, and that's 319 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: the story, right, That's one of the great October moments 320 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: you will ever see. The place was absolutely electric and 321 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: extremely loud, and it was just a captivating, electrifying kind 322 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: of deal. I've been so privileged to cover so many postseasons. 323 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: That was right up there with any of the big 324 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: moments that I've seen. It was really cool and it 325 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: was cool to write about. Now. The one thing I 326 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: want to discuss here that goes beyond the story is 327 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: how we view George Springer as a former member of 328 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen Astros, and I will admit in writing 329 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: about him, it's been a little problematic over the last 330 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks because the first time I mentioned him 331 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: with regard to the twenty two postseason home runs that 332 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: he had, then he got to twenty three with the 333 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Game seven homer. I mentioned that three of those homers 334 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen were at home. That's when the Astros 335 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: are found to have bang garbage can. And actually I 336 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: had written previously or same story, but I changed it 337 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: that six of his home runs in twenty seventeen were 338 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: with they seventeen Astros, excuse me, And because of that, 339 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: it just I felt had to mention it. That's part 340 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: of the story. And you could say, well, the home 341 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: runs at home, those were the ones that were tainted, 342 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: but the Astros were also doing things on the road, 343 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: not with a trash can, but they were using the 344 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: replay room. Whatever. There's no sense relitigating the whole thing now. 345 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: But to me, when you mentioned the twenty three postseason 346 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: home runs, it's kind of hard to ignore that he 347 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: was a part of that team. Right then comes the 348 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: Game seven column, and I'm thinking to myself, do I 349 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: bring it up again? Because some people were said that 350 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I brought it up the first time, and some people 351 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: thought I definitely should have brought it up the first time. 352 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: Nobody seems to agree on this, and I thought it 353 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily appropriate in that article because that was about 354 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: just great moment. So at the same time, he was 355 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: booed in Seattle, and this was a part of the article. 356 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: He was booed while he was on the ground. He 357 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: was booed by their fans repeatedly. And part of the 358 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: reason he's bowed there so often is because he was 359 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: a member of the twenty seventeen Astros. They played in 360 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: the same division all that. So I thought, as I 361 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: was writing the article, Okay, do I mention that's why 362 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: he was booed? And I thought, no, not appropriate, because 363 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: you know what, when you boost someone who's down on 364 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: the ground who's injured. I don't care what he did 365 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. That's just not cool. And the other 366 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: part of this is, and this goes to Springer's legacy, 367 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: and this is what we're referring to in the first 368 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: part of the show. Okay, he was a part of 369 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: that team. Josel Tuvey was part of that team. Josel 370 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: Tuvey is going to be a very strong Hall of 371 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: Fame candidate. Springer has had an extraordinary career. How much 372 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: do you factor that into how you perceive these guys 373 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: in the entirety of their careers. I don't know. I 374 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that. That's one year they 375 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: made a horrible mistake. These guys, Okay, we don't even 376 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: know the extent to which they were helped by the 377 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: trash cam banging. The Astros for years have insisted that 378 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: al Tive was not even a part of it, and 379 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: we don't know if Springer directly benefited or not. I'm 380 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: not excusing it and I'm not diminishing it. If you remember, 381 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: it was me and Evan Drelik who wrote this story initially, 382 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's eight years ago. George 383 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: Springer is doing wonderful things right now. He is a 384 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: leader on that team. He is one of the most 385 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: respected veterans in the game. And as a personal aside 386 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: with him, he of course grew up a stutterer and 387 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: he has overcome that. He has been an example for 388 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: kids all over the country and an inspiration who have stuttered. 389 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: So there's a lot more to this person. There's a 390 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: lot more actually to every guy on the twenty seventeen 391 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: Astros than simply what happened there. So as we go 392 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: on here, as we look at these guys' careers, the 393 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: question will continue, how do we look at it? Do 394 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: you mention it? Yeah, I think you mentioned it at 395 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: times when it's appropriate. Just like with Barry Bonds and 396 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: Roger Clemens, you mentioned that they were alleged to have 397 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: used performance enhancing drugs. It's part of their stories, but 398 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: it's not the whole story, and it's not the whole 399 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: story for Bonds, it's not the whole story for Clemens, 400 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: and that needs to be acknowledged too. It's a difficult 401 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: needle to thread, and I'm not sure that in either 402 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: article when I mentioned it first and didn't mention it second, 403 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: that I did it correctly, but at the same time, 404 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: these are things that we all have to deal with 405 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: going forward as we consider these players and their careers. 406 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: And I just want to leave you with one final 407 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: thought about George Springer. Unrelated to all of this thing 408 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: I'm talking about with regard to the journalistic aspect of it, 409 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: somebody from Fox said to me the other day, which 410 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: career would you rather have, George Springers or Mike Trouts. 411 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of an interesting question, isn't it. All right, 412 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: we'll be right back with grilling. 413 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: Can let's take you through the Arena Club slab pack experience. 414 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: This is part two because Todd Father last week pulled 415 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 3: a card that he didn't love, yet he sold it 416 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: back for actually more than what the slab pack cost. 417 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: This time pulls a card that he likes. 418 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is the best part of it. Ronnie 419 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: Mauricio and Me's stand out, you know, rookie sensation. He's 420 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: been absolutely phenomenal. I like the itch of seeing what 421 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 4: you're gonna get, you know, I like prospects. I don't 422 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: love him, but seeing this kind of card is actually 423 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: absolutely beautiful thing. I know a couple people around town 424 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 4: that would absolutely love that card. So there's gonna be 425 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: a lot of conversations going on here for Arena Club. 426 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 3: And what you do is you have it in your 427 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: digital showroom. 428 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: If you want to hand it out locally, then cool. 429 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: You ask Arena Club to send it to you and 430 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 3: they do, or you can sell it back like you 431 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: see there instant offer for one hundred and ninety three bucks. 432 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: But he's keeping it, and you can do what Todd 433 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: Father does by going to Arena club dot com slash 434 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: foul and getting twenty percent off your first card purchase 435 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: or your first slab pack purchase. 436 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: Time now for grilling Ken, the part of the show 437 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: where I answer your questions. I've talked enough on my own. 438 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: Let's get to the questions. First one comes from Annabel Brown, 439 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: who asks where does Springer's home run rank among the 440 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: loudest stadiums Ken has experienced. This is a good question, Annabel. 441 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: Now I'll admit here that I don't have a full 442 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: volume gauge because I wear monitors in my ears and 443 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: their noise reducing, so I don't know exactly how loud 444 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: it is, and I don't know that I can measure 445 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: Springer's home run in the twenty twenty five ALCS versus 446 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety one Metrodome the nineteen eighty seven Metrodome 447 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: when the Twins won the World Series, and it was nuts. 448 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: I will say this, when Springer hit it, that was 449 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: one of the loudest reactions I've ever heard, and it 450 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: was just so cool and electric. And hey, Aohano Suarez 451 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: his home run in Game five of the ALCS the 452 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: Grand Slam, that was pretty loud too. So I don't 453 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: know how to rank them, but I'll just say both 454 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: of them were up there, all right. Next question, This 455 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: one comes from Adam J. Dickey, who asks today, Mark's 456 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: twenty five years since the Roger Clemens Mike Piazza incident. 457 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: What do you remember about it? I was there that night, 458 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: and what I remember most is it was pretty clear 459 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: reading Piazza's lips after Clemens threw the bat, he was 460 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: basically saying, what is wrong with you? That was I 461 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: think my lead that night, because we were all wondering, 462 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: what is wrong with Clements? What is the problem? Remember 463 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: the backstory, Clemens had hit Piazza in the head in July. Naturally, 464 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: with it being a subway series in the World Series, 465 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: This was drawing a ton of attention as the series approached, 466 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: and that night after the game, Joe Tory was as 467 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: angry as I've ever seen him that this was a thing, 468 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: and his point was, why would Clemens do anything in 469 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: the first inning of a World Series game Game two 470 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: to jeopardize anything? It was a fair point, but clemens 471 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: behavior was bizarre, and that was the word Piazza used 472 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: repeatedly in the press conference his had that he had 473 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: afterward bizarre and Clemens couldn't keep his story straight afterward. Whatever. 474 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: It was one of those crazy World Series moments, and 475 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: I do remember it rather vividly, and I remember Piazza again, 476 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: what is your problem? We have a little bit more 477 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: to discuss on the show, and there's one thing I 478 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: didn't get to in the first segment regarding the World Series, 479 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: and it's kind of the most interesting thing to me 480 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: as we go into it. The most interesting roster decision 481 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: for sure. What are the Blue Jays going to do 482 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: with Boba Schett. We talked about this on foul Territory 483 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: yesterday and it's a really fascinating question. Bobaschet hasn't played 484 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: since September sixth because of a knee spring. He would 485 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: be coming into the World Series cold, but he says 486 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: he is ready and he is someone who obviously can 487 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: make a huge impact on his team if he is 488 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: the Boba Schett, that is one of the better offensive 489 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: players in the game. The problem for the JS is 490 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: where do you plan. He's most likely not going to 491 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: be shortstopped. He's not going to be ready to handle 492 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: that physically. He barely has been running the bases, if 493 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: at all, in recent days. Can he be your DH? Oh, 494 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: he absolutely can be your DH, but that puts George 495 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: Springer in the outfield. George Springer has a bad knee 496 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: right now, or at least it was hurting pretty badly 497 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: after Game five and in Game six and seven. So 498 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: I would expect that, yes, Bashett will be on the roster. 499 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: I would expect he'd be in the lineup Game one 500 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: against Blake Snell, left handed pitcher, and then maybe it'll 501 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: go from there, because again, it's kind of a tricky one. 502 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: This is what I said on FTSA. It's a tricky 503 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: one because Bishett defensively cannot handle the position most likely 504 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: right now, and I don't know that you'd want him 505 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: out there or Andres Jimenez anyway at shortstop. Jimenez has 506 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: been brilliant at short So what the Blue Jays do 507 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: here it will be something that I'm sure will generate debate. 508 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: But if Springer can handle the outfield, that obviously would 509 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: be the first choice. If he has an issue in 510 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: the outfield, and let's face it, he's thirty five years old, 511 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't play much outfield anymore, then it becomes a problem, 512 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: and then maybe you're reassessed after game one. If that's 513 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: what you do in game one, Bashett dh Springer outfield 514 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: because you see what happens, you see how it goes, 515 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: you see how Baschette looks, you see how Springer handles 516 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: it physically if he can, and then you go from there. 517 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: So again, this is a question that is really interesting 518 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: and it's going to be the big lead up going 519 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: into the World Series. All right, before we do, we're 520 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: going to take one more question. I'm brilling Ken because 521 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: I jumped out of that too early, So let's take 522 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: one more. What do we have here? This one comes 523 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: from video game Nation twenty six. This could be my 524 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: son writing in if the Blue Jays win the World Series, 525 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: do you think this is the biggest upset in MLB history. 526 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. I would say no. I would 527 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: say the Dodgers in nineteen eighty eight beating the A's 528 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: with Kirk Gibson the walk off home running Game one, 529 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: the magical moment. That to me was a bigger upset. 530 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: That was a sweep, and that was at a time 531 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: when the Oakland A's were kind of the Los Angeles 532 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Dodgers of now they were a powerhouse. Not many people 533 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: thought the Dodgers even had a chance and they ended 534 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: up sweeping them. The Reds beating the A's two years 535 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: later I would put in that category as well. But again, 536 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays beat the Dodgers, certainly they're underdogs. That 537 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: would be an upset, no question. It also probably would 538 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: be good for the game because of the Dodgers' dominance 539 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: and the craziness about oh them ruining baseball and all that. 540 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: Good for the game in the sense of people would 541 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: stop moaning and groaning about the Dodgers. I don't think 542 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: people should moan and grown about the Dodgers. They're great, 543 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: and they deserve everything they've gotten, and yes they've spent 544 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: more than everybody else, but other teams have spent a 545 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: lot too, so we'll see what happens. I don't expect 546 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: an upset, but again, as I said at the top 547 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: of the show, no predictions from me. My predictions don't 548 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: merit any consideration. They're just not good. All right, Thanks 549 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: everyone for watching, for listening. We'll be talking to a 550 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: couple of days. 551 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: Bet MGM account holders today. How about in any sport parlay, 552 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: who's token You could score a bigger payout if your 553 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: wager with that token Hits Tokens can be used on 554 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: parlays and on same game parlays. 555 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: Gambling problem or concerned is help? 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