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Speaker 1: our normal Friday fair here. We're gonna lead off with

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Speaker 1: the player interview. I talked to Giants rookie safety Dame Belton,

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Speaker 1: who played on Pent of the Snaps last week in

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Speaker 1: place of Xavier McKinney. Bob Pop and Lance Meado are

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Speaker 1: gonna preview the Lions match up with former Giants and

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Speaker 1: Lions offensive lineman Lomas Brown. Lomas is great. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you listen to that, and then we'll close out with

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Speaker 1: Bob popa the voice of the Giants, sitting down with

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Giants, Brian Table. So make

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Speaker 1: sure you check all that out and go back to

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Speaker 1: the prior episode on the Giant Subtle Podcast feed. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Greg Olsen joins us the lead analyst from Fox. It

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Speaker 1: is the eight crew this week for Giants and Lions

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Speaker 1: and MetLife Stadium. Great talk with Greg Olson about the Giants.

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Speaker 1: He's worked out with Daniel Jones before. He has a

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Speaker 1: lot of good things to say about Brian Dable. Uh

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Speaker 1: kind of trends in the NFL's while we talk NFC

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Speaker 1: NFC East. A really good talk with Greg Olson. Again.

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Speaker 1: You can find them on the Fox Call on Sunday

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Speaker 1: at one. All right, and now we're joined by Giants

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Speaker 1: rookie safety Dane Belton. But Dane, do you feel like

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Speaker 1: Rookie is back end. But as far as you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel like the biggest thing is the

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Speaker 1: And that's how it's different than college. Right, College you

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Speaker 1: This week, Lance Medal and Paul to Tino had a

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he's had some of the opportunities,

431
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Speaker 1: and and I still think he doesn't have the chemistry

432
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Speaker 1: with the with the receiving Corps with some of his

433
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Speaker 1: other receivers for it that way. I think him and

434
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Speaker 1: am ros St Brown they have a very good relationship.

435
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Speaker 1: I knew he had a good relationship with T. J. Hockinson,

436
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Speaker 1: who we traded to the Vikings out of tight end

437
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Speaker 1: that we had here, and of course with Reynolds, who

438
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Speaker 1: he had a relationship before he came to Detroit. He's

439
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Speaker 1: been hurt, so it's been hard. I think it's been

440
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Speaker 1: real hard on Jerry just to find kind of like well,

441
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Speaker 1: I like to say that security blanket, that guy you

442
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,879
Speaker 1: can always rely on, and I do think that is

443
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Speaker 1: a mall ros St Brown, but that the year we

444
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Speaker 1: were counting on so many other guys to be in

445
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Speaker 1: that receiving crew to bring that versatility, the guilt did

446
00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,400
Speaker 1: all the different weapons that he would need. But he's

447
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,600
Speaker 1: a guy that I've seen him. He could push it

448
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,679
Speaker 1: down feel if he has to um. But I do

449
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,800
Speaker 1: think the run game is what helps him get the

450
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Speaker 1: ball down field. We're pretty good at playouts and pass

451
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Speaker 1: Once we start running the ball and have consistency went

452
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Speaker 1: running the ball, then it kind of opens up the

453
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Speaker 1: rest of the offense force, especially when we want to

454
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Speaker 1: take shots down fields or try to get the explosive play,

455
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Speaker 1: so he has the capability. I think we have the

456
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Speaker 1: weapons when healthy, we just had it's just the opportunities

457
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Speaker 1: to be able to do it. And Lomas, all of

458
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Speaker 1: this is contingent on, of course, the play of the

459
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Speaker 1: offensive line, and last season, Lomas, I thought this Lion's

460
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,159
Speaker 1: offensive line was one of the best in football. The

461
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Speaker 1: problem was, as you could attest to, guys just couldn't

462
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Speaker 1: stay healthy on the field and they didn't have much

463
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Speaker 1: continuity this year, it seems, but the exception of course

464
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Speaker 1: a few games here are there, they've had that continuity.

465
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Speaker 1: I guess, a how accurate would you say that is?

466
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Speaker 1: And how much has this group lived up to perhaps

467
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Speaker 1: the label of this could very well be one of

468
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Speaker 1: the best units in the NFL right now? Yeah, I

469
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Speaker 1: think they have lived up, especially because you're right they

470
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Speaker 1: came into the season. I think they was rated by

471
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Speaker 1: PFL the number three, number four. I know those guys

472
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Speaker 1: wanted from talking to Jona Judson, myself and Tailor deak Or,

473
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Speaker 1: those guys wanted the number one ranking that was coming

474
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Speaker 1: into the season. They wanted to be considered the number

475
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Speaker 1: the one offensive line. They knew that the successor this

476
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Speaker 1: year would be firmly on their shoulders, and they accepted

477
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Speaker 1: that responsibility. Um, those guys want to be great. I

478
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Speaker 1: just think like you brought up earlier, you know, with

479
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Speaker 1: the injuries. Of course, we lost Big big Z Big Vibei.

480
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Speaker 1: We lost him or Um at the beginning of the

481
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Speaker 1: season to back surgery. Jonavan Jackson this like three games

482
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Speaker 1: because of a finger um, and we've had the shift

483
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Speaker 1: guys in and and Frank wag now too has had

484
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Speaker 1: some time where he's been injured. So we've had the

485
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Speaker 1: shift guys in there. And you know, that's the number

486
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Speaker 1: one position that you have to have chemistry that you

487
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Speaker 1: have to be on nights. What I'd like to say

488
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Speaker 1: that being able to have that unspoken language where guys

489
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Speaker 1: can communicate without having to communicate. So it's been tough,

490
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Speaker 1: but I do think they've held up there all. They've

491
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Speaker 1: been doing what they needed to do. They create the

492
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Speaker 1: running lanes for these running backs, they create the time

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Speaker 1: for Jerry that he's need and so yes, that's the

494
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Speaker 1: group that we still need to lean heavily upon if

495
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Speaker 1: we want to continue to put up points and continue

496
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Speaker 1: to be consistent on offense. Well, let's build off of

497
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Speaker 1: that for a second moments, because even though the line

498
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Speaker 1: has had some bumps and bruises along the way, Williams

499
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Speaker 1: and Swift are both running the ball very well. They're

500
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Speaker 1: different styles and backs. Could you tell me about what

501
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Speaker 1: this running game is gonna have to do against the

502
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Speaker 1: giants to make sure that they remain balanced and take

503
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Speaker 1: pressure off of golf. Well, I know the one thing

504
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Speaker 1: I would do. If I'm trying to run the ball

505
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Speaker 1: against the gions, or I'm running towards the ends, or

506
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Speaker 1: I'm running that my five and six holes, I'm not

507
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Speaker 1: trying to running my one and two holes or run

508
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Speaker 1: towards Dexter, uh, big Dixter in the middle of a big,

509
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Speaker 1: big Leonard Williams. I'm not trying to mess with those

510
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Speaker 1: guys in the inside. Yeah, I'll do some some wam blocking,

511
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Speaker 1: or maybe I'll do some some misdirection blocking with those

512
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Speaker 1: guys in the middle meeting. Let them use their momentum

513
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Speaker 1: to take them up field and maybe run a trap

514
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Speaker 1: behind them or like I see a wham behind them

515
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Speaker 1: or some type of delay behind those guys. But I

516
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Speaker 1: think the best way to attack them is to go

517
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Speaker 1: after the type of those or go after the other,

518
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Speaker 1: you know, the other defense and ends and try to

519
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Speaker 1: stay on the perimeter of the run game because I

520
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be tough, slad and trying to running

521
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Speaker 1: the interior of that defensive line. I just think that

522
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Speaker 1: you guys have two of them one two of the

523
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Speaker 1: best defensive line and especially big Dexter Lawns man, I mean,

524
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Speaker 1: the dude, there's something else. So I think, to me,

525
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Speaker 1: that's how you attack them. Salm and perimeters of the

526
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Speaker 1: of the giants, um misdirection plays and if you do

527
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Speaker 1: want to run the middle, let them guys use their

528
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Speaker 1: momentum against themselves and run themselves out of play. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: dex is certainly having a career year, speaking loments of

530
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Speaker 1: the dynamics of the rushing attack. DeAndre Swift has been

531
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Speaker 1: nursing ankle and shoulder injuries. He's been back for the

532
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Speaker 1: last two games, but the workload is clearly not what

533
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Speaker 1: you normally have seen in the past, and clearly they

534
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Speaker 1: can lean on Jamal Williams. But now that this is

535
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Speaker 1: games three back, how much do you think that changes

536
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Speaker 1: where maybe they start to give DeAndre Swift more work.

537
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Speaker 1: This weekend against the Giants. See, that's a great question

538
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Speaker 1: because I think a lot of it depends on what

539
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Speaker 1: they want to try to do things given if I

540
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Speaker 1: look ahead, because you think about it, that game is

541
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Speaker 1: four games after this Giants game, So it's you know,

542
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Speaker 1: it's how they want to look at it. Uh. You know,

543
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Speaker 1: if they're gonna look at giving him a smaller role

544
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: against the Giants, maybe Jamal gets a heavier role against

545
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Speaker 1: the Giants and you're able to maybe geach out to

546
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Speaker 1: win that way, and then you could just have DeAndre

547
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Speaker 1: Ribby to gold fools need for Thanksgiving. I just think

548
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Speaker 1: it depends on how the Lions, uh, internally, how they

549
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: want to look at using him, you know, because we

550
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Speaker 1: got two games over the next with five five five days,

551
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Speaker 1: you know, once we play in New York or four days,

552
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Speaker 1: So I I just think that's gonna play into their

553
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: decision a lot more. But I tell you what, we

554
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Speaker 1: need him, man, We need him. We need him. He

555
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: is such a difference maker to that offense, whether he's

556
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Speaker 1: getting the ball or not. He is such a difference

557
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Speaker 1: maker for us and he opens up so many more

558
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Speaker 1: things for us. So you know, we we need him.

559
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Speaker 1: Whether he could give us ten plays, fifty plays, whatever

560
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Speaker 1: he can give us, I know we will take it.

561
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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of it depend on what

562
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Speaker 1: you gotts see against us. I think that's gonna be

563
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Speaker 1: varied upon what they want to try to do for

564
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Speaker 1: thanks Giving too. We gotta start with Aidan Hutchinson. But

565
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Speaker 1: we talked about the dfing Lomus. This is a guy

566
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Speaker 1: who's got five and a half sacks, ten quarterback kids,

567
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Speaker 1: leads NFL rookies in both of those categories. What have

568
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Speaker 1: you seen from him that you like as a rookie.

569
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Speaker 1: I know coming out he was a terrific hand fighter,

570
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Speaker 1: and he had a terrific motor. And also what do

571
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Speaker 1: you see that's giving him trouble to this point during

572
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: his first NFL season? Yeah, I love the motor. That's

573
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Speaker 1: the one thing that and I used to hate playing

574
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Speaker 1: against guys like Hey Man, guys that man go all

575
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: games Loan. Those are the true guys when they say

576
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Speaker 1: go to the whistle, those are the type of guys

577
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Speaker 1: that Haight and Hutchinson is a guy that goes to

578
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Speaker 1: the whistle. So you could never count him out of

579
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Speaker 1: a play. That's what I love about him. The one

580
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Speaker 1: thing he has to work on. And I know he's young,

581
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Speaker 1: and this may be unfair criticism because he is so young,

582
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Speaker 1: and I know how it is the bill Wickie in

583
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Speaker 1: his league, and he's gonna have to developers accountable. He's

584
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Speaker 1: gonna have to that. I mean, I mean I watched

585
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Speaker 1: when the office aligneman gets his hands on him. Then

586
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a counter of movie. He just kind

587
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: of swells and plays um. And that's not gonna work

588
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: with professional offensive line. Um. He's gonna have to come

589
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: up with either rep or swim, a slap, some type

590
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: of other accounta moves. So when the guy does get

591
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: his hands on you, and the and and and stop

592
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: feeling mission move, you have to have a counter move.

593
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Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that I know he will

594
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Speaker 1: work on. I know that's something that he will get.

595
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Speaker 1: It's just growing pains. It's just I went through growing

596
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: pains when I got in the NFL. Everybody does. I

597
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: don't care who you are, the Great Barry Sanders that

598
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: growing pains. Everybody goes through it as a lookie when

599
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: you get in the NFL. He's just going through it

600
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: right now. But I do love the way he hustled man.

601
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Speaker 1: I think that overcomes a lot of the deficiency that

602
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: he may have because simply because of the way he

603
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: hustled the plays. We're talking with former NFL offensive lineman.

604
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Speaker 1: You can hear him on the Lions radio network as

605
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: the color analyst, Lomas Brown. Lomas, you look at the

606
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: Lions defensive statistics across the board, I don't need to

607
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: tell you it's pretty much the bottom of the barrel.

608
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: They're either dead last or second to last in all

609
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Speaker 1: of the major categories. However, it's interesting they just played

610
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Speaker 1: the Bears and they had to deal with a very

611
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback adjusted Fields and the conventional back at David Montgomery.

612
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Speaker 1: And the reason I bring that up they're now going

613
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Speaker 1: to face a mobile quarterback again and Daniel Jones and

614
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: s Kwan Barkley having a career year coming off injury.

615
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Speaker 1: How much do you think regardless of the level of

616
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Speaker 1: success they had against Chicago, Clearly Fields had the big

617
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Speaker 1: run for a score, but that maybe better prepares them

618
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: for what they're going to see against the Giants this weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought I even go back to when they face

620
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: hurt the first game of the not that that helped them,

621
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Speaker 1: you know anything, anytime you're getting any type of experience

622
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: and be able to put something back in your memory

623
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: bank that you could use for later on, this is

624
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: going to help you. I think, Dad, I think you

625
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: know they've known that mobile quarterbacks have heard us are

626
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: all year long. You don't even go back to Geno

627
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Smith's who you wouldn't put in that category, but he

628
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: heard us two or heard us when he had too.

629
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Speaker 1: So I think going up there, and then of course

630
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: you talk about Justine Field, So I think when you

631
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Speaker 1: go up against these guys, you kind of, like I said,

632
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: you kind of keep restoring your memory bank or what

633
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: these guys to do. What we're your breakdowns that cause

634
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: these guys that have a big game or supposed to

635
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: play against you, and then you try to correct it. Yum.

636
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: I think with us, what gives us problems is he

637
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: on top of being a mobile quarterback, but when quarterbacks

638
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: roll out, even just a simple rollout game for us,

639
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: we don't see seem to be very good at being

640
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: able to either cover the primary route guy, the underneath

641
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: route guy, or the secondary route guy. We've just been

642
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: having problems with that all year long. So I'm quite

643
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: sure um New York has looked at that. I'm quite

644
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: sure we're don't see Daniel Jones rolling out UM and

645
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: looking to either throw the ball or use this seat

646
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: against the Lions. So it's gonna be important for those

647
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: guys that definitely have that discipline Russian lanes, but to

648
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: be disciplined too because you've got another animal and say

649
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley back that that could really hurt you. So

650
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: it's almost like pick your poison, but the poison that

651
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: I would pick would be, uh, say Kwan Barkley. You

652
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: don't want that poise and to get started and to

653
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: hurt you earlier in the game. One of the other

654
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: very big names on this defense is Jeff oku To

655
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: the former number one pick. We know about the tour

656
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: a chillies cost the virtually all of last season. How

657
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: has he bounced back? Loments. Is he starting to look

658
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: like the guy who they drafted and the and showing

659
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: some of the potential that they expected from him as

660
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Yeah, I think as a first

661
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: wild pick and feel away from me in the third pick.

662
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: You know, that's a high draft pick to spend on

663
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: the defensive back. But he's getting better he's getting better

664
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: and better. Uh you can see it each and every game. Uh,

665
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: you could seek just step up and take the challenges

666
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: of being on the number one receivers. And just in

667
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: his body language, you know just how confident he walks around,

668
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: just when he lines up against the guy in press coverage,

669
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: you know how he's up on those guys and jamming

670
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: those guys. You know. So those are different things that

671
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: we had to see in the past, Uh from Jeff

672
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: and I tripped all that to his confidence. Um, we

673
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: all know that the uh, defensive back position, that's one

674
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: position where you have to have short term memory and

675
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: you've got to be a very very offer that person

676
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: to play that position. And Jeff has that. So he's

677
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: coming alone. Uh. We're happy with what he's done to

678
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: me right now. If I had to look at my

679
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: m v P on the defensive side of the ball

680
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: for the Lions, he would be my m v P

681
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: um for for the Lions on the defense society of

682
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: the ball right now. So very happy with the way

683
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: he's been able to kind of reservate his resovate his career.

684
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: You look outside of Okuda Lomus, it's a relatively young

685
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: secondary heck, I would say it's pretty much a very

686
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: young defense. We were talking about Aidan Hutchinson, Malcolm Rodriguez

687
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: AD linebacker. He was a sixth round pick. I guess

688
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is not to say it's an

689
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: excuse because you want to see young guys coming and

690
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: making a meeting impact. But how much are these struggles

691
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: overall you think simply a product of it's a youth

692
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: movement on defense and they're just going through the basic

693
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: growing pains of not having a lot of veterans to Yeah,

694
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you can conclude a lot of the miss

695
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: because I think one of the biggest things with our

696
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: secondary and with our defense was miscommunication, um whether they're

697
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: getting uh, you know, the right defenses that they're supposed

698
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: to be in the right A linements. I think that

699
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: hurt us early in the season just as much as

700
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: anything else and help put up those Gauldy numbers on

701
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: the defensive siete of the ball. I think the communication

702
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks have been bettered between

703
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: the units um and of course when you got used

704
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: and you're trying to teach them as they learned, meaning

705
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: they learning on the job, that they're getting on the

706
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: job training. Um, it's gonna be tough. You're gonna have mistakes.

707
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be mistakes. So those guys make you just

708
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: hope that you don't make as many mistakes, or you

709
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: hope that you can limit some of the mistakes that

710
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: are being made and they don't keep making these mistakes

711
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: over and over again. And that's youth, that's you. So

712
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination that, yeah, those guys being young,

713
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: but I do think it was a combination of those

714
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: guys getting getting their communication now early in the season.

715
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the things that kind

716
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: of held them up and kind of hurt their progress

717
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: too earlier this year, Loans from talking to the Giants,

718
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 1: one of the things that they said to me that

719
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: would concern them as potentially being a tripping point or

720
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: a turning point in a game like this is the

721
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: fact that Dan Campbell is so tough and rugged. His

722
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: players are the same way. He's very aggressive, he's not

723
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: afraid to take chances. He's very bold and as sort

724
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: of you knew him as a player he was a

725
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: teammate here with the Giants. How has his personality translated

726
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: and specifically, how dangerous could the special teams aspect of

727
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: this game be for the Giants. Yeah, I mean that's

728
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: one area that we take a lot of pride in.

729
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: I think our special teams has been very good all

730
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: year long, covering and uh and returning. I think we've

731
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: been good on the kick returns and in our punt games.

732
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: And I do think we have one of the best

733
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: punners or the best partner right now in the league

734
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: and Jack Fox. So yeah, that's that's all. Like, that's

735
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: always an area that doesn't get a lot of attention,

736
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: but that can cause you to win, to lose the game,

737
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: and the special teams area. As far as Dan, you know,

738
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: he's been aggressively. You know, I think he's pulled it

739
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: back a little bit because the team has played better,

740
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: and I think he doesn't feel that he hasn't take

741
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: as many chances as he did um early in the

742
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: year or when the team wasn't playing good. But yeah,

743
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: I think that could be a factor in this game.

744
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: I you know, I I thought last week special teams

745
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: would be could determine what would happen in our game

746
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: last week, and I do think the same thing anytime

747
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: you play opponent that you feel that you're pretty close to.

748
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: It's going to be the little things that it comes

749
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: down to and the cause. Like I keep saying, you know,

750
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: special team doesn't get the praise as offenses defense gets,

751
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: But it's just isn't just hands or maybe more important

752
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: in certain games, situation and certain games for you? And

753
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: I do think that it can be important, not only

754
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: for the Lions being aggrassip stopping the Giants who loamos

755
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: before we let you go. There are two numbers that

756
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: jump out to me, and I'm very curious your perspective

757
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: that I think could be x factors in this game.

758
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: The Lions are fantastic in the red zone their fifth

759
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: overall in the NFL. They're converting se in the time

760
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: with touchdowns. The Giants, on the flip side, have been

761
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: number two red zone defense. Then you have a Lions

762
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: team that has at least one takeaway in eight straight games,

763
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: but the Giants have been very good in protecting the football.

764
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: Of those two factors, which one do you think the

765
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Lions can lean on that went very well give the

766
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Giant something to think about in Sunday's game. That's a

767
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: great question to me. I think It would have to

768
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: be the red zone for me, because again, you're getting

769
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: those opportunities, you're getting that you're moving the ball, you're

770
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: getting it deep into the opponent's territory where you have

771
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to put up points. And I think that's gonna

772
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: be the most important thing for the Lions, Uh, the

773
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: Lions on Sunday, because again, we're kind of we're kind

774
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: of been going as our offense has been going. If

775
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: our offense starts staying good and able to same gize

776
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: and do some good things early in the game, then

777
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: the scenes that help our decentse out. But if our

778
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: offense comes out and they're not you know, fine, or

779
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: they're three and outs, three and outs, then it puts

780
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: a lot of stress on our defense, which I think

781
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: that's it's probably league wide. I'm probably saying something that

782
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: happens with every team, but especially with us. You know, again,

783
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: we're a young defense. Uh we're optimistic defense where we

784
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: try to we're trying to get turnovers each and every week,

785
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: but we're still a young defense. We're still a defense

786
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: that's not putting up good numbers right now, and we're

787
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: still a defense when we get towards the third and

788
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: later in the third quarters. In the four quarters, if

789
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: a team has a good run game, they could start

790
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: leaning against us because we're not a big, stocky defensive line.

791
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: So teams start leaning against us and that's when they

792
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: start making their hay in the run game late in

793
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: the game. So I think the key for the Lions

794
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: on Sundays if we get reds on opportunities early in

795
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: the game, or whenever we get reds on opportunities, the

796
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: Lions offense is going to have to take advantage of it.

797
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: And I think taking advantage of it is to put

798
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: up seven points, not three points. And that is something

799
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: that the Texans failed to do in the last game

800
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: against the Giants, as the Giants held them one of

801
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: six inside the twenty yard line. Eighteen seasons in the

802
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: NFL is an offensive lineman two with the Giants, seven

803
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: time Pro bowler, five time All Pro now serves as

804
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: the color analysts on the Lions radio network. He is

805
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: Lomas Brown. Lomas can't thank you enough, greatly appreciate the

806
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: time of the insight, looking forward to seeing you on Sunday,

807
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: and also looking forward to talking down the road. Thanks

808
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: for hopping on. Absolutely take y'all guys, take care. I

809
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: appreciate it too. Fans, There's still time. Did that interview

810
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: get you psyched up to see the Giants and Lions

811
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: and MetLife Stadium on November twenty this Sunday? Well, there

812
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: are still tickets available to washer Giants take on the Lions.

813
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: There are limited seats, but you can go to Giants

814
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: dot com slash tickets to secure yours today. All right, now,

815
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: let's wrap this up like we do every week. Bob

816
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: Papa had a chance to talk too. Hey, coach of

817
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants, Brian Davil, Let's listen in

818
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: the Giants take on the Detroit Lions here at MetLife Stadium,

819
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: as always been joined by the head coach of the

820
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: New York Giants, Brian Enabling. Uh, coach, take a look

821
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: at this Lions team. You know, you can look at

822
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: their record, but you guys look at the coaches tape.

823
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: You guys study the film. They're a lot more dangerous

824
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: than their record would indicate, aren't they. Yeah. I mean

825
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: they've won there are three games they've won two in

826
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: a row. But you know, four of the six games

827
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 1: they lost have come down to four points. Or less

828
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: and one of them. They're right there with Dallas at

829
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: the end with three minutes twenty seconds left, it's ten

830
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: to six. So UM might say they have a lot

831
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: of talented players, Um, you know, young players. I think

832
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: they're building their program the right way. Um. Dan Campbell

833
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: has done a great job, and they're explosive on offense,

834
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: opportunistic on defense, and really good in the kicking game.

835
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: Let's talk about um. You know, they used multiple backs, right.

836
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift is really talented, but Jamal Williams has been

837
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: making plays for them and these averaging you know, four

838
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: yards of carry. He's got a bunch of stop rushing

839
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: touchdowns this season. What makes that combination so lethal? Yeah,

840
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: I think they're They're both very dependable backs. Williams just

841
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: was like, he does the right thing all the time.

842
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: He gets positive yards. He's tough, you can run inside,

843
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: you can run outside. Swift is very athletic, um, you know,

844
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: really good in the perimeter runs. He can still run

845
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: inside runs, and he's good in the passing game. I

846
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: think they use them well and use them to their strengths,

847
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: and it will be a really big challenge for us

848
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball. I mean, you

849
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: can look at their numbers right where they're ranked. But

850
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: as Carl Banks said going into the Texans game last week,

851
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: nobody wants to be last in any category, so they're

852
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna try everything they can to improve. When you look

853
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: at them on film, what are some of the things

854
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: that really have your flag up as far as what

855
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: they do defensively, Yeah, I think they have a sound

856
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: scheme and and good young players. I think Hutchinson has

857
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: come along. He's a he's a dynamic player defensive and

858
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Speaker 1: I think Bugs inside is is tough. You know, Kuda

859
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: is a really good corner. Um. And then they mix

860
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: up their their coverages and their fronts and um, you know,

861
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: present your challenges in their scheme. Um, this is a

862
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: good group. One of the things that you guys did

863
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: really well last week was get off to a fat start.

864
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: You scored on the opening possession of the game. You've

865
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: got three consecutive three and outs defensively, how important is

866
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: it to kind of build upon that and not only

867
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Speaker 1: start fast, but build upon the fast start. Yeah, I

868
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: think you try to do that each week. Um, and

869
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: it always doesn't come to fruition, but um, you know,

870
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: that's our goal. That's how we practice and you know,

871
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: hopefully we go out there and you know, give some

872
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: energy to the crowd. The crowd was great again. Um,

873
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: you know, definitely provided a home field advantage for us.

874
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: And UM that's certainly what we're gonna look to try

875
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: to do. Coach them. You do a great job of

876
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: keeping your team focused, right, and everyone in the building

877
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: is focused, But it's fifty three guys plus you know

878
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: everybody else that's on the team, practice squad and everything.

879
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: They're young, they're on their phones a lot when they

880
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: leave the building. How do you make sure that they

881
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: don't put the cart ahead of the horse because people

882
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: are talking about Giants playoffs and they got a lead

883
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: in the wild card. Kind of keeping them on point.

884
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: I think you're just honest with them and what we

885
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: need to do each week to try to you know,

886
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: get a win. Um, this legal humble really quick. If

887
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: you're focused on the wrong things, and I think you're

888
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: honest with him, you have honest conversations with him, and UM, look,

889
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: all we can control is is this particular week, this

890
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: particular day. And you know that's how we've been since

891
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: we've been here in o t a s and to

892
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: try to remain consistent regardless of a win of a loss. Um,

893
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: you know where we stand, because it really doesn't matter

894
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: until the end of the year. Um, you just try

895
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: to stack them together, and you know, however you finish,

896
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: you finish. You shared a story with us doing the

897
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: Coach Dable Show presented by Stopping Shop on MSG Network.

898
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: I'll give a little plug there about your relationship with

899
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, meeting him for the first time. Um, for

900
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: those who are listening who are not smart enough to

901
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: watch your TV show, can you relate that story to

902
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: them a little bit of of your first encounter with

903
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell? Yeah, I know it was. Uh it's really

904
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: an interview for the Miami Dolphins for the tight end job.

905
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: And he came in with a ton of juice. Um,

906
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, showing me how to base block and protect.

907
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: And he's used in chair is is you know, defenders

908
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: so to speak, or walls and um, you know, he's

909
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: just he's such an energetic I thought he provided so

910
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: much knowledge, you know, having played the position for so long,

911
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: and uh, just a great, great person and and a

912
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: great coach. You know. Fortunate to to work with him

913
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: for that one year and learn a lot from him

914
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: and of how he you know, approached things and you

915
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: know the way he saw it through the tight ends

916
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Speaker 1: eyes and big fan of Dan. Yeah, he's uh, he's

917
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: a piece of work and uh he's a lot of

918
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Speaker 1: fun and passionate. But so are you. And uh, listen,

919
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Speaker 1: we want to wish you the best of luck today

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00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: against the Lions. Appreciate it, Bob, thanks, We thank Brian Dable, Bob, Papa,

921
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Speaker 1: Lomas Brown, Paul De Tino, Lands Metal, and Dame Belton

922
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: for joining us in this episode of the Giants Little Podcast. Remember, folks,

923
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: go back listen to that episode with Greg Olsen. A

924
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: great conversation, um, and we talked a lot of good

925
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: Giant stuff. I think you guys are really enjoying Jersey

926
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: Guy too, so he has some fun with that on

927
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Speaker 1: that episode of The Giants Little Podcast is the previous

928
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Speaker 1: one on your Giant Suttle podcast feed. And remember two,

929
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Speaker 1: we're doing these up of prospective Giants huddles every week

930
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: talking about a historic game against that opponent. This year

931
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Speaker 1: we're doing an interview with the player that played in

932
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Speaker 1: that game. And this week we had the pleasure of

933
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: talking to Carl Banks, who had a really big game

934
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Speaker 1: against the Lions in where they kind of shut down

935
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Speaker 1: Barry Sanders. So for younger fans and we don't know

936
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: a lot about Barry Sanders, you know, Carl, will you

937
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: know kind of give you insight to what it was

938
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: like playing against who, for my money is is the

939
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: most elusive player that I've ever seen play in the

940
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Speaker 1: National Football League. Thanks for being with us in the

941
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Speaker 1: giantst Podcast. For the guys and our guests, I'm John Schmilk.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.