Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: Mickey's Fagnola, Brian Brought It, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips
Speaker 1: Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It is Friday here,
Speaker 1: the last Friday of twenty seventeen, in the last Friday
Speaker 1: of the two thousand and seventeen season for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: How's everyone feeling about that today? Oh? No, no, you're
Speaker 1: not bittersweet. Yeah, it's been a long journey. Certainly, has
Speaker 1: Bran maybe started. Yeah, we were a teamed that played
Speaker 1: five games the preseason, didn't even forgett a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame owner, general manager. I mean a lot of things
Speaker 1: we've been You went to court cases, you learned legal terms,
Speaker 1: you learned what's right, what's wrong. I mean, there's so
Speaker 1: many things that we've kind of thought. Protest, Yeah, protests,
Speaker 1: you've learned about, Yeah, standing, kneeling, sitting, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot a lot going on in the injuries. Injuries, Oh, injuries,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, Yeah, and that's it's it's it's taking its toll.
Speaker 1: It's been a roller coaster so yes, again, now you
Speaker 1: have another season, and this is kind of what you
Speaker 1: just said, because I forgot about that you had five
Speaker 1: preseason games. I know you didn't play the Houston one,
Speaker 1: but that was still an exhausting day for everyone, and
Speaker 1: it was difficult for everybody, a hard week because state. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you know, the Cowboys turn around as an organization,
Speaker 1: and Mickey and I were doing a game, you know,
Speaker 1: at the AT and T Stadium there the practice game
Speaker 1: and raising money and all that, and yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just it was a really unusual start to the year.
Speaker 1: There were so many unknowns, and some of the things
Speaker 1: that we thought we're gonna be okay really weren't okay.
Speaker 1: And some of the things that, wow, Jylen Smiths really
Speaker 1: playing sixteen games, huh okay. So I mean it was
Speaker 1: that kind of It's it's been that kind of season,
Speaker 1: and I think that there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: are willing to say, let's put this behind us and
Speaker 1: try and focus in on next year. So what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, too, is another year now that the
Speaker 1: teams that participate in the Hall of Fame Game in
Speaker 1: the preseason do not make the playoffs. Yeah, is that
Speaker 1: a thing. That's a thing. Now, there's never been one
Speaker 1: to make this Super Bowl. There might have been a
Speaker 1: few that have made the playoffs here and there. Now
Speaker 1: people might be like, well, the Packers made it a
Speaker 1: few years ago. They didn't end up playing the game
Speaker 1: that canceled. Yeah, so um. More importantly, the NFC East
Speaker 1: defending champions have not repeated since two thousand and four. Wow, Philadelphia, right,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, that's parody for you. Last year to Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: a lot of questions at quarterback, was he the right guy?
Speaker 1: Now he's your MVP candidate and likely with him being
Speaker 1: out the Philadelphias. To me, they're done. I just watching
Speaker 1: them play, they're done. Every year. It makes you admire
Speaker 1: what the Patriots do every single year. Sure, it's it's
Speaker 1: mind boggling what they've been able to do for fifteen
Speaker 1: years when you think about how difficult it is to
Speaker 1: put together back to back playoff seasons, just two in
Speaker 1: a row, you know, and the Cowboys are trying to
Speaker 1: get back to back winning seasons for the first time
Speaker 1: in eight years and they still won't go to the postseason.
Speaker 1: It's it's a hard leak. It's set up to allow
Speaker 1: teams to bounce back every year, and the competition rises
Speaker 1: and falls, and it's really hard to maintain that level
Speaker 1: of success. Yeah. I was sitting next to Mickey on
Speaker 1: Sunday and that was right after the Jags game, or
Speaker 1: it was right before the Jags game was going to start,
Speaker 1: but they'd already clinched, and then the Rams had just won.
Speaker 1: And Mickey goes, when was the last time that both
Speaker 1: the Jags and the Rams won division titles? And we
Speaker 1: looked it up. It was nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: greatest show on turf. Yeah, you know, it's funny about
Speaker 1: that too. Think about this, what if the Chargers get
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, So you had two teams, when's the
Speaker 1: last time in LA? You think about LA? They have
Speaker 1: to have two teams that nobody really gives a damn
Speaker 1: about public and they both could and they both could
Speaker 1: be the playoffs. Yeah. I mean, it's just been that
Speaker 1: kind of a year where, you know what, you knew
Speaker 1: that some teams, that's just the way the NFL is.
Speaker 1: Teams improve, you know, whether it's coaching, whether it's talent acquisition,
Speaker 1: whether it's a new general manager. You know, I talked
Speaker 1: to less Sneed, who's a GM in the Rams. He
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna get fired this time last year.
Speaker 1: I mean he was worried. I mean he's like, well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna bring in a new coach and they're gonna
Speaker 1: bring in a guy who wants power, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lose my job and all that. And now all those
Speaker 1: guys with what McVay has done, you know, they've just
Speaker 1: thing turned things around and everything's all happy and bright.
Speaker 1: There you've got the NBA ramping up, where there's two
Speaker 1: teams really that can win the title. Probably in the
Speaker 1: NFL is the exact opposite. Yeah, I mean it's literally
Speaker 1: thirty two teams every year you think has a shot,
Speaker 1: and I maybe you want to take the Browns out
Speaker 1: of that mix. Maybe it's thirty one. They're they're struggling,
Speaker 1: but it's it's parody. It's it's the way the cap works.
Speaker 1: And that's great, but it's hard to maintain that level
Speaker 1: of success. And the cow was gonna enter the offseason
Speaker 1: the same boat they always do. Probably a third of
Speaker 1: this roster is going to change. We're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys for the last time on Sunday
Speaker 1: and then Monday when they clean out their lockers and
Speaker 1: had their exit interviews. So your New England things causing
Speaker 1: me to think when when would be the last time
Speaker 1: they didn't qualify for the playoffs. I want to say
Speaker 1: it's two thousand and five when Matt Castle. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were eleven and five, eleven games without Britty. So here's
Speaker 1: my question. How many times has another team from the
Speaker 1: AFC East qualified as a wild card team? Well, last day,
Speaker 1: two years, Dolphins went to Dolphins went to was it
Speaker 1: last year? The Dolphins went to Pittsburgh? Last year? Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the year before the Jets ended at ten
Speaker 1: and six. They were knocked out because the Bills beat
Speaker 1: them in, so they didn't qualify. Well, hey, the Jets,
Speaker 1: the Jets got to a couple. I wish I had
Speaker 1: my book right now here we answer my own question.
Speaker 1: Got to because my feeble memory doesn't help me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that. I know that Miami got in last
Speaker 1: year with with Ogin's Pittsburgh. Yeah, last year, right, as
Speaker 1: as a wild card. Yeah, My point is there hadn't
Speaker 1: been many challenges to New England in that division for
Speaker 1: a decade. Yeah, Well, they've been pretty good regard they have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but there hasn't been another team to say, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe we're gonna split with them, and we got a
Speaker 1: chance to win the division. I think the biggest I
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing I had with this division. If
Speaker 1: you ask me the preseason to rank where and I
Speaker 1: did the talent level of Okay, who were the ranked
Speaker 1: the four teams in the division of talent? Do you
Speaker 1: guys have an idea how you would do that? I
Speaker 1: know what I did, But I knew the Giants were
Speaker 1: top two. Giants were one number two team. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought that Cowboys coming in, and then the Giants were
Speaker 1: number two because I actually, yeah, i'd Philly and then
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's crazy to believe that the
Speaker 1: Giants were as bad as they were. I think we
Speaker 1: felt like their defense could carry them again. And you
Speaker 1: still have Eli Manning. But we pointed out week one
Speaker 1: the deficiencies they had upfront and the running game. And
Speaker 1: then you lose a couple receivers and you get banged up.
Speaker 1: This is what happens. Yeah, but before they lost those receivers,
Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh, look at those receivers they brought in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, oh, how are you going to Brandon Marshall
Speaker 1: And we kept saying, oh, offensive line, how are you
Speaker 1: going to protect the quarterbright? And then their defense was
Speaker 1: going to be out of this world true and it wasn't,
Speaker 1: and then they stuffered some injuries. I think offense. I
Speaker 1: think the point I'm trying to make is the talent
Speaker 1: level in this division as opposed to the AFC East.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? Yes, that that that the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: the Bills, and the Jets just aren't as talented as
Speaker 1: the Giants, the Redskins. You know, well just may he
Speaker 1: was playing quarterback for those teams. Yeah, you got a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and Eli Manning, whether you like or not.
Speaker 1: And then no, no, no, I mean in the AFC East.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jay Cutler, Cutler comes off the couch, Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Yeah, and then the Jets. I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to start this conversation by minimizing what the Patriots have
Speaker 1: done for No, I'm not trying to minimize. No, they
Speaker 1: haven't been challenged, is what I'm saying. Right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they've been challenged in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, they've
Speaker 1: been challenged. Yeah, but they they've had to go win
Speaker 1: a game at Denver. No. The reason I said that
Speaker 1: was because of what's happened in the NFC East. It's
Speaker 1: been a different champion every year. Somebody has been good
Speaker 1: enough to win. It. Probably need to focus on this team, Tay,
Speaker 1: Sorry we took it. No, No, I mean, you know
Speaker 1: it is what it is. What's going on in this
Speaker 1: team right now is a lot to do with what's
Speaker 1: going to happen in twenty and eighteen. We look at
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith and Orlando Scandrick place on IR today as
Speaker 1: Brant is back at practice today after missing yesterday with
Speaker 1: the tendonitis, and you know, it's an up and down
Speaker 1: season and I think we all kind of expected that
Speaker 1: with Orlando and Tyrn for this week. But what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? Yeah? This, you know, I give
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith a lot of credit for trying to do
Speaker 1: what he could do. You know, I feel like that
Speaker 1: he seriously, Yeah, every week it was a challenge for him.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. They tried to They tried to balance practice
Speaker 1: for him, They tried to make it as making as
Speaker 1: comfortable as possible to play for these games. He clearly
Speaker 1: wasn't the same player, you know, and there were times
Speaker 1: where he tyron was outstanding and there were times where
Speaker 1: you could say, Okay, did the back causing problems here?
Speaker 1: Did just the matchup causing problems here? He wasn't the
Speaker 1: same player that we've seen from him before, and I
Speaker 1: think with a back injury you have to have some concern.
Speaker 1: Offensive line, he plays a position where he leverages people,
Speaker 1: you know, and will his back hold up? It sound
Speaker 1: like that he doesn't need surgery. But you know, Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett didn't rule anything out, you know, he said, hey,
Speaker 1: this is something you know we talk about another day.
Speaker 1: But I think it's a credit to him to try
Speaker 1: and play Scandrick. To me, you know, anything I say
Speaker 1: about Scandrick has taken as sour grapes because of my
Speaker 1: relationship or lack of with him. But I think this
Speaker 1: was a really a failed year for him. He got
Speaker 1: the captain's ship. I've said that a bunce, you know,
Speaker 1: and then the young kids have come in. It's ended
Speaker 1: his career and he's had a very good career here.
Speaker 1: He really has. You know, whether whether you like his
Speaker 1: personality or not, or whether you get along with him
Speaker 1: or not, but he has had a good career here,
Speaker 1: and if it is his last campaign with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll remember him as a good football player. Here. Well,
Speaker 1: the e things insignificant. They were both going to be inactive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it was just basically a vehicle to give two
Speaker 1: guys on the practice squad, basically a twenty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: happy New Year gift because they get to they get
Speaker 1: to get on the fifty three man roster. Who knows
Speaker 1: if they'll be active on game day or not. I
Speaker 1: think Lenora has a chance. I think he does, especially
Speaker 1: if Noah Brown remained sick. Yeah. Well, yeah, Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley is sick too, right, Cole Beasley's the one
Speaker 1: had practiced all week, and Butler hadn't played in seemingly
Speaker 1: forever three weeks. Yeah, so maybe they need another wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Trayvon Johnson. He's got a chance to be up this week, especial, Yeah,
Speaker 1: taking Durant spot. Yeah, I think that. Well, Durant has
Speaker 1: been in interactive every week, he hadn't been playing, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you have to figure out, you have
Speaker 1: to figure out where, uh you know, where you can
Speaker 1: add him to the mix. Uh, you know, I just
Speaker 1: don't get the feeling, you know, when you when you
Speaker 1: start the one guy, like I say, the reason why
Speaker 1: I said Lenore, and I'm sorry, I'm gonna get to
Speaker 1: your answer, I swear I am. But the one guy
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that practices with the first team
Speaker 1: and gets first team work is Lenore. That's and then
Speaker 1: the other ones Kadeem Edwards and stuff like that. I
Speaker 1: just think, like Tay was saying, and Mickey was saying,
Speaker 1: a nice thank you very much being a hard worker
Speaker 1: all year long. And then it also doesn't have to
Speaker 1: make them, uh sign future I mean the future contracts.
Speaker 1: They could say, Okay, we've got those two guys taking
Speaker 1: care of let's focus on some of the other guys.
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't see I don't see him
Speaker 1: being an active guy. He's a more twenty eighteen guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I meant the prop he's not going to make you
Speaker 1: not draft a linebacker, you know, Yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know he's going to be part of Okay, come in
Speaker 1: and compete, come in and be a guy. And obviously
Speaker 1: they liked him enough to say, hey, we want you
Speaker 1: around here, and they're willing to say, justin Durant, thank
Speaker 1: you very much, but we need your spot, and Justin
Speaker 1: Durant was probably happy to give it to him, talking
Speaker 1: about I mean that guy could play. I mean if
Speaker 1: they wanted to get him active special teams. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you seet in March Lillard, Yeah, what were you
Speaker 1: gonna say? Rob? Well, just you mentioned Skandrick and he
Speaker 1: basically spoke in past tense yesterday. Sure he did about
Speaker 1: his time with the Cowboys, and he's smart. He knows
Speaker 1: he's under contract. He doesn't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I guess there's always a chance he's back, but you know,
Speaker 1: he thanked the Joneses for his time with the organization.
Speaker 1: If he is let go or potentially traded, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Jerry was asked about it on the fan this morning
Speaker 1: and basically Jerry just said he's under contract and that's
Speaker 1: where we are, so we'll see what happens. I think
Speaker 1: Skandrick recognizes the youth movement that we've seen in the
Speaker 1: secondary over the last month, and he said those, I mean,
Speaker 1: he admits those guys who are playing well, so it
Speaker 1: might be time to move on. We'll see. He might
Speaker 1: have played his last game in Dallas. Well, I think
Speaker 1: in his mind he has. Yeah, I think it was
Speaker 1: in his mind three weeks ago he was done. He
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna go play. He was gonna make a business decision. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like if I'm gonna if I'm gonna have a
Speaker 1: chance to be traded or a chance in free adency,
Speaker 1: if I'm a release, I want to make sure I'm healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into there with you know,
Speaker 1: questions add back. Yeah, so I don't think he wanted
Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, it wasn't that they didn't let him play.
Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted to play. Yeah. Always one
Speaker 1: of the interesting characters. And I mean I mean that
Speaker 1: in respect. I really do. I respect the way the
Speaker 1: guy played. He's a smart guy. He's at SIS. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's played through some things. But you know what,
Speaker 1: he realizes he's one of those guys. He's not one
Speaker 1: of those guys that walked in here with with blinders on.
Speaker 1: He walked in here, he was he had a chip
Speaker 1: on his shoulder the immediate the day he got here.
Speaker 1: He was a fifth round pick at a Boise State belt.
Speaker 1: He should have been drafted and he and he and
Speaker 1: he felt like he got blackballed. He'll even say it.
Speaker 1: He felt like he got blackballed. Yeah. Boys, Yeah, coaches
Speaker 1: didn't talk about me nice and know blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Always had a chip on his shoulder. I respect him
Speaker 1: for that, you know, But playing nine years with the
Speaker 1: same team, Yeah, no, I mean and then and then,
Speaker 1: you know, he's always kept his salary where there was
Speaker 1: never a question about letting him go. It was never like, boy,
Speaker 1: he makes too much money. It was always kind of
Speaker 1: did his deals and to your increment years Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: you could take money for me, but you're going to
Speaker 1: give it back to me, and he would get it
Speaker 1: back double or triple what it was. And he you know,
Speaker 1: he never made enough players on the ball. He never
Speaker 1: intercepted the ball. He's kind of the typical cowboy cornerback
Speaker 1: that we've seen in the last ten years, you know,
Speaker 1: just never made enough plays. But but here's the other thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they will con it or some of this.
Speaker 1: They have to be very careful and not be cavalier
Speaker 1: about getting rid of guys and putting more dead money
Speaker 1: into the salary cap. Sure, because they will start the
Speaker 1: year before as soon as the year starts with fourteen
Speaker 1: million dollars in dead money already for twenty eighteen, Scandrick
Speaker 1: will be roughly another four right if he's not here
Speaker 1: unless he's a June one designation. I think, where's the
Speaker 1: other dead money coming from? Romo? Romo Thornton and those
Speaker 1: you're big two? I believe there was two guys that
Speaker 1: had the same amount. Um, was it Nolan Carroll? But
Speaker 1: that was and it was Carroll. Yeah, those those four,
Speaker 1: those three guys are nearly fourteen million in dead money. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nine of it's Romos yeah wow. And then the other
Speaker 1: the other two guys is two and a half and two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, so you have to be careful, you know
Speaker 1: when everybody talks about Deaz, okay, that's another eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, talk about Crawford. I don't know the six.
Speaker 1: I don't see des as being a guy that's going
Speaker 1: to be released. I don't either, that's me. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But but the way the way things have gone for
Speaker 1: Orlando Scandrick, yeah I do. I felt like that was
Speaker 1: a leading and I understand what he's saying today when
Speaker 1: Dees was asked that a little bit the way he
Speaker 1: was asked, Yeah, the way he was asked. You know,
Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to it, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know who asked this specific question, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, you think you're going to be
Speaker 1: here or not? You know, you give that answer like
Speaker 1: it's so uncertain for these guys. You know, if he's like, hell,
Speaker 1: yeah I am. You know that I believe in me.
Speaker 1: But next my answer to that would have been, next question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have to answer that, Marvin Lewis. It's contract stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, are you willing to take a pay cut?
Speaker 1: Next question? I don't have to answer that. Sure, that's hard.
Speaker 1: Then that question is like what kind of none of
Speaker 1: your business? One of them, because it's like, if you're
Speaker 1: willing to take a pay cut, do you believe in yourself?
Speaker 1: Are you not really strong enough? There's a way, there's
Speaker 1: a way to work around that. We all know the answer.
Speaker 1: We all know the answer. Hey, listen, it's that's something
Speaker 1: in the offseason. That's not my pay grade. No, that's
Speaker 1: not I I mean, you know, the owner has an
Speaker 1: open door policy, the head coach has an open door policy,
Speaker 1: and you know own the player and the and the
Speaker 1: the head coach have already spoken. I think the next
Speaker 1: thing that's going to happen is the player's going to
Speaker 1: talk to the owner general manager. Well, Jerry was very,
Speaker 1: very supportive of Dez on the fan sure he was
Speaker 1: said he had a lot, has a lot left in
Speaker 1: the tank. H feels like he's really evolved since he's
Speaker 1: been here. I talked about his maturity, was not concerned
Speaker 1: about his comments that he made. And that was about
Speaker 1: a fifteen minute interview with reporters earlier this week. Can
Speaker 1: I can I throw something out? Did Tony Romo have
Speaker 1: a problem throwing the ball to Roy Williams? Well, what's
Speaker 1: going back a little ways, Mickey. He never really connected
Speaker 1: with Roy Williams, did he? Yeah, but I think there
Speaker 1: was some Roy Williams problems. Okay, I'm just saying, though
Speaker 1: Dez and Dak we make a big deal about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they had no problem connecting last year. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying though, I'm just saying when you bring up
Speaker 1: the lack of connection, Romo has had his issues with
Speaker 1: other receivers before. I'm just saying it happens with quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and receiver and thought of that. You know, when we
Speaker 1: talk about Tony it's always in the vein. Roy Williams
Speaker 1: was a bust here, Let's be honest. It's always in
Speaker 1: the vein of with Tony. It's like, well, Tony threw
Speaker 1: this guy opening well, Tony and Tony made, and Tony
Speaker 1: made that kid they got from San Diego, Leron Robinson
Speaker 1: made him. You know, that's fair. But I'm saying they
Speaker 1: made a big commitment to go get Roy Williams. They
Speaker 1: made a big commitment to pay Roy Williams that never
Speaker 1: worked out, and and a lot of it was not
Speaker 1: on just totally on Roy Williams. Tony Romo had trouble
Speaker 1: throwing him the football. You know what you're You're starting
Speaker 1: to come clear again. Yeah, well, I mean obviously Roy's
Speaker 1: production was not good when he was here. It was terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a terrible kid. It was a terrible trade.
Speaker 1: It was a terrible extension of a contract. I think
Speaker 1: they resigned him before sure they did, really got there,
Speaker 1: Sure they did. Oh, that was part of the trade.
Speaker 1: He came in a game another contract. Yeah. Right, By
Speaker 1: the way, Detroit didn't want him in anymore. I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you though, that quarterbacks and receivers, especially elite receivers
Speaker 1: don't always mesh. Can you fix it or just go
Speaker 1: back to where it was? I mean, what happened? Explain
Speaker 1: it to me? Offensive line? Yeah, yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: big problem. He's right, he said this all along offensive
Speaker 1: line is why your season is the way it is.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, your left tackle situation, your left guard situation.
Speaker 1: You're waiting on your right tackle to get better. And
Speaker 1: it finally happened. But it took a while. It took.
Speaker 1: It was too late. You'd already you'd already spent games,
Speaker 1: you'd already spent games trying to fix the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying. I'm just saying, when you want
Speaker 1: to dump on Dez about the connection with Prescott, go
Speaker 1: back and remember if you're if you're a Tony Romo fan,
Speaker 1: go back and remember his problems with Roy Williams. Remember
Speaker 1: that because they were big. Well that's a perfect segue,
Speaker 1: because we are going to get into whether Dez will
Speaker 1: be playing or not and who else will be playing
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Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, I know that's depressing. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna come here in New Year's even do a show?
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Speaker 1: the Star better dressed warmly? All right, guys, what's the
Speaker 1: last practice of the season? And des Bryant returned? Is
Speaker 1: he gonna play on Sunday? Wow? Are you? Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you waiting with bated breath to find out that answer?
Speaker 1: My extremely intelligent colleagues here are going to give you
Speaker 1: the scoop. What do y'all think? I was going to say,
Speaker 1: what does it matter? I'm gonna say matters. I think
Speaker 1: he I think he plays. I think he plays. I
Speaker 1: think he's got something that proven. Then I think, you know,
Speaker 1: listening to Jerry today, they want to get to nine
Speaker 1: and seven. They don't want that eight and Nate hanging
Speaker 1: over their head all off season long. Now, I do
Speaker 1: think that that's still doable. You know, a nine and
Speaker 1: seven record for this team is still doable in this game. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, yeah, it depends a lot on too.
Speaker 1: What's Philly gonna do? That's what we don't know. I
Speaker 1: still haven't seen a definitive yeay or nay. I think
Speaker 1: some of it does kind of sound like Foles is
Speaker 1: expecting to get more work at least at some point
Speaker 1: throughout this game. And then when do they give way
Speaker 1: to Nate Sudfield? Yeah, I think. I mean what I
Speaker 1: read this morning, they were sort of pointing out what
Speaker 1: we've been pointing out. He didn't look all that good
Speaker 1: in this lage, right right, That's it. But if you
Speaker 1: listen to the Philadelphia players talk, this sound very familiar
Speaker 1: to how the Cowboy players talked last year by giving
Speaker 1: lip service. Yeah, like, yo, that's this important game and
Speaker 1: you ought to go out there and win. And I'll
Speaker 1: have to go into that by week. Let me let
Speaker 1: me tell you this. As soon as Lane Johnson has
Speaker 1: that one miss block and Nick Foles gets hit right
Speaker 1: in the face by DeMarcus Lawrence trying to get sixteens.
Speaker 1: It's Doug Peterson's gonna take that visor off his head
Speaker 1: and go nay, nay, nay, where are you get ready?
Speaker 1: AG's already gonna have his helmet on the They're already
Speaker 1: that that team in Philadelphia is already a very handicapped
Speaker 1: and wounded team without without Carson Wentz playing quarters. I
Speaker 1: bet they tried to set to rest as many guys
Speaker 1: on defense. Yeah, because that's definitely that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: calling card, right, Oh, that they're gonna have They're not
Speaker 1: gonna score. They're they're not going to score enough points.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. That's the problem. You mean Sunday or
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and the playoffs, not with Nick, not
Speaker 1: with that guy playing quarterback. The belief is there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I I I'm rely hang on,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking maybe they're a complete enough team to
Speaker 1: get to the NFC Championship Game and we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens at home. But you're right, they're not the same
Speaker 1: with wins. There's no question about it. Who's gonna be
Speaker 1: the sixth seed in this thing? Who do you who
Speaker 1: do you predict will be the sixth seed of the teams,
Speaker 1: Atlanta or Seattle Atlanta? Seattle Atlanta. So you think they're
Speaker 1: gonna beat Carolina? Yeah, yeah, I think they're gonna win
Speaker 1: at home? All right, Atlanta's offense against you know, Atlanta's
Speaker 1: defense first, that offense? Yeah, yeah, okay. Who Seattle playing
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers? Yeah, yeah, no, no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Rams are playing the forty niners. So they're playing the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Is it is that right? No? No, no, that's right.
Speaker 1: It's the other way. They're playing the forty nine ers. Sure.
Speaker 1: I thought that the forty nine ers were upset that
Speaker 1: the Rams have to guess I'm sorry, didn't bring my
Speaker 1: all right, is okay, I can look it up. I
Speaker 1: just read somewhere that the forty nine ers were upset
Speaker 1: that the Rams were sitting all their guys. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, yeah, it is the Cardinals Sunday
Speaker 1: twenty five. So the Seattle's playing the Cardinals at home
Speaker 1: at home? Yeah okay, yeah, after which you saw with
Speaker 1: Seattle's defense, Yeah, they played well yeah, pass rush yeah.
Speaker 1: Can they score enough points on the road that playoff game?
Speaker 1: I will take my chances with Russell Wilson playing against
Speaker 1: Nick Foles. That's just me. I'll take my chances with
Speaker 1: with the reigning MVP last year playing against Nick Foles
Speaker 1: at the Rams. If this, if Carson, if Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: was in this game, you could tick at them to
Speaker 1: probably be going to the super Bowl. But he's not.
Speaker 1: It's Nick Foles. Miraculous come back. It should have gotten
Speaker 1: you a Foles jersey for Christmas. It's Nick Foles, Nick Foles.
Speaker 1: Nick might as well be Nick Fails. Oh get ready,
Speaker 1: that is a drop kent. Yeah, keep it forever. When
Speaker 1: we're sitting here people, people caught on with the Bucks
Speaker 1: thing too. That way we were doing that was all
Speaker 1: ye when that was going on. You saw that one
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Here, I am are fans out there here,
Speaker 1: I am saying that Falcons are going to be the
Speaker 1: succeed and I just never believed in Matt Ryan. Yeah, MVP.
Speaker 1: The big question is though, can the Browns win win?
Speaker 1: Who are they playing Steelers? Oh but the Steelers might
Speaker 1: set everyone right. Oh, They've got to win. They gotta win.
Speaker 1: They have a chance, they have a chance for home field,
Speaker 1: home field. Bless the Brown Jackson jump in Lake Erie
Speaker 1: how was the bet right that he made with himself
Speaker 1: jump of the lake and they go one and fifteen
Speaker 1: again and they can't pull off because they're playing at
Speaker 1: the same time as the Patriot. Sure, so for some
Speaker 1: odd reason, the Jets beat the Patriots. If they win,
Speaker 1: they get home field, right, Yeah, that ain't happenings. The
Speaker 1: Rice Pettiot quarterback, who I liked at one time, not anymore.
Speaker 1: You got Katie Cannon his receiver, all the practice squads
Speaker 1: like gum on my shoe. I can't get rid of him.
Speaker 1: I love Brian right now, Brian, let's talk about something funny,
Speaker 1: then talk about the locker room drama. This is a
Speaker 1: round this league. Yeah, we've never said I feel like
Speaker 1: I haven't seen before with Eli Apple, Landing Collins, you're
Speaker 1: talking about Earl Thomas. You talk about all these guys.
Speaker 1: What's going on? They? Why are they fighting? Welcome to
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, I'll tell you what it is. He
Speaker 1: goes to me. It's it's where, it's your line of work.
Speaker 1: And I mean this, and oh, I completely agree in
Speaker 1: your line of work and respect to you and what
Speaker 1: you do because it's very important to what we do
Speaker 1: here at the Dallas Cowboys and to the fans. But
Speaker 1: there's so many people now, there's the day of a
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola working for a newspaper walking in there and
Speaker 1: being one of three or four guys talking to players
Speaker 1: has now turned into a gaggle of reporters who really
Speaker 1: don't have business being in that locker room. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think that's where the relationships that he built in
Speaker 1: the nineties and newspaper men and women made through the
Speaker 1: nineties is a testament to them. Now it's a let's
Speaker 1: see if we can draw players off sides. Let's see
Speaker 1: if we can make them feel uncomfortable. Let's see if
Speaker 1: we can. Let's let's tmz this if we can't, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where we've we've come. And that's
Speaker 1: why you have drama, because what happens is these players
Speaker 1: like a Landing Collins, who who might have saddled up
Speaker 1: with Mickey or a Bob Glauber of Newsday is as ana. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a Newsday or whatever he's with, might have saddled up
Speaker 1: to him and said, you know what, an Eli Apple
Speaker 1: is not a game answer, he is a bad guy. Well,
Speaker 1: how do you want me to report that? I don't
Speaker 1: care how you do it, Bob, he is a bad guy. Well,
Speaker 1: nowadays you just have to say it and then it's
Speaker 1: taken in a way that yeah, tweets and Texas and
Speaker 1: or they don't bother telling anybody, they just tweet it themselves,
Speaker 1: I know. And see that's the sad thing, you know.
Speaker 1: I completely agree obviously. Social media is it has a
Speaker 1: great positives. You know, you're able to do things like quickly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: find news quickly. But all of this drama does stem
Speaker 1: a lot from this, you know, the quick bites and
Speaker 1: oh Eli Apple's mom tweets too much and you know
Speaker 1: all this different stuff and it's like that's where it
Speaker 1: just needs we know too much information. Well, I think
Speaker 1: the NFL needs to put in to place a stronger
Speaker 1: social media policy with the players, with the players, because
Speaker 1: they have one on the clubs. It's it's probably too late.
Speaker 1: You're right, it has too late. You can't put the
Speaker 1: genie back in the battle. There's more vehicles for it now.
Speaker 1: But this is what happens when you lose and when
Speaker 1: you have a miserable season. Guys are going to point
Speaker 1: fingers at each other. It's happened throughout the history of sports.
Speaker 1: But there's also money involved. As people are looking when
Speaker 1: they're trying to market their guy, they're going, oh, look
Speaker 1: how many followers he has if he's doing this Instagram models,
Speaker 1: this is this is how, this is how how how
Speaker 1: much exposure you can get for your product with my guy?
Speaker 1: That's those agents are in these guys ears telling them,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, go ahead, use Twitter, get followers. We want followers.
Speaker 1: You get followers, you get endorsements. Well, players and players
Speaker 1: have also figured out to be controversial is a way
Speaker 1: if you're outside the Skip bayless. Yeah, if you will. Players, well,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is they see that too. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you want to get on the NFL network, be a
Speaker 1: controversial guy. Be a guy that's not afraid to say
Speaker 1: what's going on here? Have the Falcons and Panthers already started? No,
Speaker 1: that's a whole game. I saw a tweet today It
Speaker 1: was hilarious. The headline DeMarcus where you know he's been
Speaker 1: doing some different things with the NFL network. It said,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus where puts the end to the water burger in
Speaker 1: and out debate? I was like, what, who cares about this? Right?
Speaker 1: Who is reading this article? Somebody's clicking on it, clickbait.
Speaker 1: Huh agent. Yeah, it's it's so good attention. That's the
Speaker 1: problem though, And it's it happens in this locker room
Speaker 1: as well. It does. It's happening all over the world
Speaker 1: right now. His entertainment now, reporting and journalism is out
Speaker 1: the window. It's it's gone. The lines are blurred, There's
Speaker 1: no question about it. The lines are blurred. Everybody's trying
Speaker 1: to make money. Oh why I didn't figure that out.
Speaker 1: You've got figured out. Oh I haven't abuse. I get
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I should be take your own advice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go go get yourself out right, like your advice stay
Speaker 1: off Twitter. Yeah no, I just you know, I worry
Speaker 1: about it. We're looking at the draft and you got
Speaker 1: to find these guys on social media now and see
Speaker 1: what they're saying and what they're doing, and you know,
Speaker 1: see what they're posting. And well, I'll teach your horn
Speaker 1: a little bit. I know. The fact that the front
Speaker 1: office guys come and talk to you about that, you
Speaker 1: know about you know, the social media stuff and how
Speaker 1: to do the angles and stuff like that. I think
Speaker 1: you're a very good resource to the organization, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what I look at, and this is what
Speaker 1: you know, and I give you credit for that. If
Speaker 1: you know, if if that, if that's what this has become,
Speaker 1: then it's smart from the front office perspective to say, hey, Taylor,
Speaker 1: how can you help us do this? Or how can
Speaker 1: you help us do that? You know it just it
Speaker 1: give advice or guidance. I think that's You're absolute right.
Speaker 1: I think this is the way that the things are going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. But I think you know Mickey is right too,
Speaker 1: in the sense where it's like, Okay, now, I'm Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: I have five hundred thousand followers on Twitter when I
Speaker 1: was at miss to be sitting at maybe twenty. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. You know, correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I'm sure you guys well, but what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is end. It's like the agent's like, Yo, you
Speaker 1: send that deal with Kia, got that thing? You gotta
Speaker 1: tweet out? This you gotta is now your social media
Speaker 1: is so different than it was. Even it's about promotions too,
Speaker 1: about it's about airplanes and what chips is he doing now?
Speaker 1: Is it tostadas or tostitos? Tostitos? Yeah, tostitos, he does
Speaker 1: an he'll do He'll do lays every now and then too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a bizarre competing chips. Huh, biz our world.
Speaker 1: That's you know, you gotta we have to give Rob
Speaker 1: the time off the belt bull started already. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: get through locker room. Maybe, Okay, we'll get through locker
Speaker 1: room and Monday we'll be garbage bag day here. So
Speaker 1: it's already fourth and two. By the way, garbage bag day.
Speaker 1: It's always kind of a sad day. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like it's depressing. It's so depressing. It is. So when
Speaker 1: I first saw that, I was like, seriously, why do
Speaker 1: we have to be in this end. It's a strange
Speaker 1: site because, like I said earlier, a lot of the
Speaker 1: guys that are in the locker room you're not gonna
Speaker 1: see again. Oh, because the roster naturally turns over to
Speaker 1: a certain degree every year at the end of the
Speaker 1: Packers game. Last year, obviously the Cows were in the
Speaker 1: divisional game, so it was a little bit longer than this.
Speaker 1: But I'm sitting there and I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys all sat up a Brandon Carr threw his helmet
Speaker 1: onto the field and just kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: was in Brown Broke Down. Yeah, that's a great way
Speaker 1: to describe it. For about five minutes. I remember looking
Speaker 1: at him. That was the last time I ever saw
Speaker 1: him in person. Yeah. Yeah, remember last year and on
Speaker 1: Garbage Back day, the whole media walked in and Tony
Speaker 1: Romo was still in there, and he was walking out
Speaker 1: right as the media is walking in and said, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking and he just walked out, and I think
Speaker 1: I turned to you, Rob and said, I think that's
Speaker 1: the last time we're ever going to see that guy.
Speaker 1: It's it's really it's really weird, and it doesn't really
Speaker 1: hit you until maybe you get word that yeah Tony
Speaker 1: has been released, and it's like, wow, I saw him
Speaker 1: on January fifteenth and that was it. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, you get in a situation too with the
Speaker 1: players have had enough that when the season's over, it's
Speaker 1: over for them. I mean, it's not gonna be over
Speaker 1: for guys like Tyrn Smith and Sean Lee and Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott and yeah, but it's over for it's over for
Speaker 1: those guys that are the players forty through, you know,
Speaker 1: the Bryce Butler's of the world. Bryce Butler's a contract
Speaker 1: is up. I don't see Bryce Butler coming back here.
Speaker 1: Jason Witten had some interesting things to say obviously every season,
Speaker 1: and that's a good point about Bryce Butler. Will look
Speaker 1: into that. But Jason Witten every year fifteen season, I
Speaker 1: feel like the same questions acts, are you going to
Speaker 1: be back next year? Yeah? And you know, of course
Speaker 1: he has a great way to put it, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got more in him. He's a tough guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this might be a hard offseason for him. But they Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot. Like I say, Rob, you guys are right.
Speaker 1: It's you walk in there and you see those guys
Speaker 1: and then you know you won't see him ever again,
Speaker 1: You really won't. They become like and then they become
Speaker 1: part of something like me and Mickey trying to remember, well,
Speaker 1: who was that guy? Who was that you know, who's
Speaker 1: a backup? You know three years who's that guy they had?
Speaker 1: Remember they use that guy as are you? Yeah exactly?
Speaker 1: Just remember Richard ashe remember him? You remember? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: Wilcox was little. Just be ready for Sunday night on
Speaker 1: the charter flight home that the gasket will blow off,
Speaker 1: all the pressures gone. Yeah, it will not be a
Speaker 1: morgue on that last And now it doesn't even matter
Speaker 1: if it's news. They know it's over. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: they blow off steam. Yeah. Well, the thing about it
Speaker 1: is it mean I've seen it too. That's why I
Speaker 1: don't like going on the planes anymore, because too many
Speaker 1: times I thought it was Mardi Gras going on in
Speaker 1: the back. Anyway, You know when I was, when I
Speaker 1: was dying in the front after a loss. All right, well,
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Speaker 1: last Twitter pool of twenty seventeen? Yes, it is. We
Speaker 1: had to decide on the one yesterday. But was that
Speaker 1: the one that was so close? Yeah? Dude, text or
Speaker 1: tweeted me and asked, what was your answer to that mine? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who do you feel best about? Offense? Defense, special teams
Speaker 1: going into twenty eighteen? Oh? I forgot I remember I
Speaker 1: danced around like I was like Fred Astaire on that one. Uh.
Speaker 1: I feel better actually about it's gonna sound crazy. I
Speaker 1: feel better about the defense, all right, crazy, that's two
Speaker 1: and two. I think taysaid defense offense? All right? Well,
Speaker 1: today's pool related to Orlando Scandrick. Could he have played
Speaker 1: his last game? Same with the Cowboys. We'll see. I'm
Speaker 1: curious who the best fifth round pick in Cowboys history is,
Speaker 1: and he's part of that potential list. Oh that's not fair.
Speaker 1: Did you research it and come up with some No, Mickey,
Speaker 1: just guess five. I thought he was going to ask us.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well tell me who you think it is. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: if I wanted to enter the poll right now, but
Speaker 1: the poll's up. Okay, we got four options. We need
Speaker 1: some help from you and Brian, probably because me and
Speaker 1: Tay don't go as far back as you guys do.
Speaker 1: Walt Garrison, Blaine Nigh, offensive flyman, Orlando Scandrick, or herschel
Speaker 1: Walker best fifth round pick? Everybody bet you. Everyone said
Speaker 1: herschel Walker. Yeah, because nobody knew who Blaine Nigh and
Speaker 1: nobody knew who Walt Garrison. Walt Garrison's considered one of
Speaker 1: the all time great There's no dat amazing that Ken's
Speaker 1: dad was uncle uncle wal Is it is it weird
Speaker 1: that what's the hershel Walker situation? If he had been
Speaker 1: an NFL player, he would have been a first round player, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: and he had already been in the yell and he
Speaker 1: was that eligible to be drafted. It took a flyer
Speaker 1: on five I think it was four five and then
Speaker 1: so they had his rights right when the USFL folded. Well,
Speaker 1: he dominates this polete You're right eighty percent. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of it has to do with what
Speaker 1: they got back in the trade. Yes, yes, it's more
Speaker 1: about Yeah, the trade that pretty much create helped create
Speaker 1: the dynasty here in the nineties. Although he was a
Speaker 1: heck of a running back. Orlando Scandrick comes in at
Speaker 1: third with seven percent. Although ten years with this organization
Speaker 1: as a fifth round pick in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: that's a heck of a career. Who were some of
Speaker 1: the other fifth round picks that you perused over the
Speaker 1: top of your head? Hey, why not? I settled on
Speaker 1: those four. You don't remember others that you look, I'd
Speaker 1: have to go back and look. We did a top
Speaker 1: ten list on it back in the spring. These were
Speaker 1: fifth round Yeah, and these these are the top four
Speaker 1: that we came up. What was Brady James? I got
Speaker 1: got it? Top ten fifth round picks, Rob, you said
Speaker 1: you guys did that on March thirty first, twenty seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: March story first. Probably do it again. Loading, it's loading,
Speaker 1: it's loading. Oh is it loading just when you want
Speaker 1: it right away? No? I know, Mick. You know what.
Speaker 1: Walt Garrison was a really I could speak from experience
Speaker 1: of watching walk Garrison play very physical runner, tough because
Speaker 1: of the rodeo background, stuff like that block blocked very well.
Speaker 1: Was one of those guys you could throw him the football.
Speaker 1: I you know, I was always impressed by him just
Speaker 1: because of the toughness. Well gress I blacked the right
Speaker 1: Way to good Eye Black when he played, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I liked him quite a bit different day and age too.
Speaker 1: I think the story goes his signing bonus. It was
Speaker 1: a trailer horse trailer, right, It was the inline horse trailer.
Speaker 1: He still has it still on his property, right, and
Speaker 1: I guess it's I'm sure if they'd call it our
Speaker 1: Vial or Bartonville. He was at the Cowboys game last week. Guy,
Speaker 1: he was the legend of the game. He was the
Speaker 1: legend of the game. Oh, I'm sorry, this is still loading.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh loading. But no, I and then maybe
Speaker 1: I'll send it. Who else we had? We had Scandrick.
Speaker 1: We all know about him. Blaine and I was made
Speaker 1: a couple of Pro Bowls. Yeah, offensive lineman in an
Speaker 1: error where they you know, where the Cowboys offensive line
Speaker 1: was back in the day was pretty good. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at some of the guys that they had. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got it. Yeah, ten Andy Frederick, he was a tackle.
Speaker 1: Never played for him. Yeah, right, I traded him, didn't they?
Speaker 1: Mat He pay was on Super Bowl team? Was Matt
Speaker 1: Lear Matta La Yeah? Two three offensive line Virginia Tech eight,
Speaker 1: Gary Hogeboom Gary Hogan Boom quarterback yep, start on Survivor
Speaker 1: m I don't know, helped me, helped me get my
Speaker 1: my first job in Dallas. He was involved in one
Speaker 1: of the most debated quarterback controversies in team history. That's
Speaker 1: right with Danny White. Danny White. Yeah, Oh, Danny White
Speaker 1: was on the cover of the Dallas Time Times Harold
Speaker 1: football previews section and the day they were going to print,
Speaker 1: Tom announced that Gary Hogan Boom was going to be
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. I need that jersey. The day I
Speaker 1: came in for my interview and he said, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to sit there and wait a while. We
Speaker 1: got to change our special section. There you go. Crazy seven.
Speaker 1: Steve pull Yeah he made the list. Yeah. He was
Speaker 1: famous for getting knocked out in games. He was always
Speaker 1: like every time it was a big play by the Bears,
Speaker 1: it was like Steve Lurgant crushed Jimmy got here and
Speaker 1: hated him. Yeah, that's why they they drafted Aikman and
Speaker 1: basically said, you know what, we can just trade he
Speaker 1: was he was Walsh was eighty nine too, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: same and blurred at Washington. Plur made the mistakes holding
Speaker 1: out on a contract. Yeah, number six is another jersey
Speaker 1: I should probably get because it's an awesome last name.
Speaker 1: Can you guess awesome last name? Darren Hambrick, Oh, darn Ambriger.
Speaker 1: Actually he was pretty darn good. That's why he's number six.
Speaker 1: He had one hundred and fifty four stops. He was
Speaker 1: a little dent tackler into that a little him and
Speaker 1: his brother a little crazy. I was gonna say nutty
Speaker 1: crazy's probably more. Did he did he copyright his famous Yes,
Speaker 1: he should have tell me the famous line, rob, what
Speaker 1: do you voluntary mean? That's right? When asked about why
Speaker 1: he's not an OTA's right? Yeah, yeah, quarterback school is
Speaker 1: probably back. Then. Man did the best handbrik in Cowboys history.
Speaker 1: He was better than Darren. Darren was better than Troy right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: like a Hamburg he was good. Right, He's not right,
Speaker 1: He's right. He was just a tad. That's a great
Speaker 1: last name. But handbrike is kind of like, Hey, he
Speaker 1: started for the Indianapolis Colts after he left here, all right.
Speaker 1: Five Ron Springs really good player, do it all player
Speaker 1: in the early eighties. Yeah, he should have been a
Speaker 1: little higher. Yeah, he was a good player. Four Walt Garrison,
Speaker 1: the true Cowboy skull dipping in all school, dipping it all.
Speaker 1: Number three Scandrick, Yes, send your career. He has a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. One of those didn't make Rob's poll.
Speaker 1: Number two Blaine nine, played in three Super Bowls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: spent his entire nine year career with the Cowboys, very
Speaker 1: similar to number three on this list. Year. They didn't
Speaker 1: move around very much back in the day. No free agent, Yeah,
Speaker 1: no free agency, All right, y'all. Number one, herschel Walker, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gotta be, it's gotta be. Yeah. I think herschel
Speaker 1: Walker being number one no more for the trade than
Speaker 1: really for what kind of player he was, and he was.
Speaker 1: He was good. I mean he led him in rushing
Speaker 1: and eighty eight and he was He was not the
Speaker 1: same player that he was at Georgia. But but what
Speaker 1: happened when he got here is Dorsett was here and
Speaker 1: they shared. Yeah, eighty six was a share. And I'll
Speaker 1: go back and say it again. You know, through eight
Speaker 1: games they had the number one offense in the league
Speaker 1: until Danny White got hurt in Game nine against the Giants. Yea.
Speaker 1: They won one more game the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: Herschel was. I mean, he was a straight line runner.
Speaker 1: He couldn't make people miss, and that's why Jimmy thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, move, We're gonna trade this guy because
Speaker 1: I can't win with him, right And he was right,
Speaker 1: you know, and then they picked up Emmett the next year. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone lines. We have Mark from
Speaker 1: Texas Online. What is your question? Hello? Did we make
Speaker 1: you laugh? Yeah? Good? Well I'm a little off topic,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to ask a question about Dak and Lenahan.
Speaker 1: At the first of the year, I noticed Dak was,
Speaker 1: you know, coming up like on third down, and he
Speaker 1: would turn his back to the line of scrimmage. And
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that he's changing routes, and I just wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you all, if you jump off that, maybe
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think Lenahan really is a run
Speaker 1: first offensive coordinator. I think he's really talented. But do
Speaker 1: you think they put too much on back, you know,
Speaker 1: something that maybe a four or five year quarterback is
Speaker 1: supposed to do. And if you could leave me on,
Speaker 1: let me hear your answer. I appreciate it. I'm on
Speaker 1: the phone. But he did that early in the year
Speaker 1: when they were averaging twenty eight points a game in
Speaker 1: six consecutive games. Right, yeah, so not against Denver and
Speaker 1: when Oh but you're not going to be perfect. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: it just looked to me like he all that was
Speaker 1: going through his head and a lot of times he'd
Speaker 1: get the snap and he wasn't making those like those
Speaker 1: head movies like he was reading the field. He looked
Speaker 1: like he got lost to me on someplace. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just was wondering if you guys noticed
Speaker 1: any of that. I mean, I noticed that he I
Speaker 1: thought he was doing more at the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: than he did last year. I will agree with you
Speaker 1: on that. I don't know that it was to his detriment.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll back to where Brian started the show.
Speaker 1: When your offensive lines not playing well, your quarterback doesn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of time back there to look around.
Speaker 1: I think the one thing we have to be careful
Speaker 1: of this though, when we're talking about the offensive line
Speaker 1: or the offense. Looking back the last six games before
Speaker 1: Zeke got suspended, he played eight games. You take after
Speaker 1: the Denver game, I think no, it was after the
Speaker 1: Arizona game. They put up thirty one points a game,
Speaker 1: almost thirty two points a game, and then he got
Speaker 1: suspended and they had Tyring out and they had Sean
Speaker 1: Lee out. That's why I want to break it into chunks,
Speaker 1: because there was a large stretch of this season where
Speaker 1: this offense was putting a lot of points on the board.
Speaker 1: So I think we got to be careful when we
Speaker 1: look back and say this offense had a terrible year.
Speaker 1: They didn't respond well without Zeke for the first part
Speaker 1: of his suspension, but they were They looked like an
Speaker 1: elite offense before he went out for six games, and
Speaker 1: I think we have to remind ourselves of that. But
Speaker 1: offensive line going forward, yes, there are questions. You gotta
Speaker 1: look at your swing tackle, you gotta look at your
Speaker 1: left guard situation, how Tyrant's back. I mean, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but they still are capable. They are still capable of
Speaker 1: the talent is still there. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: Jerry is. What happened to the Seattle game, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean you had you had the pieces back
Speaker 1: in place that you had success. If Tyran went out
Speaker 1: after three plays, yeah, and the protection wasn't there, And
Speaker 1: was that game on the OC or was it on
Speaker 1: the player. Well, I think yeah, you can point out
Speaker 1: you can make not just somethingout the one play on
Speaker 1: the sequence on the on the goal line did, but
Speaker 1: overall did did the fact that they didn't have a
Speaker 1: good plan going into the Seattle game, or they didn't
Speaker 1: execute the plan. I mean, I'm just asking. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be a smart a you certainly I'm not
Speaker 1: say because I'm saying there are turnovers were part of
Speaker 1: the plan. No, I don't think it never is part
Speaker 1: of the plan. Well, but then that kind of screws
Speaker 1: up the plan. You lost three possessions, lost them and
Speaker 1: one you were in scoring position. I think you can
Speaker 1: make your argument there, and you can point to the
Speaker 1: Atlanta game that the coaches readily the coaches admit that
Speaker 1: readily admitted we didn't adjust well enough. Now, they weren't
Speaker 1: expecting Chaz Green to play as poorly as he did,
Speaker 1: but they didn't adjust. So yeah, you can look. You
Speaker 1: gotta look at coaching, gotta look at everything. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that when turnovers are on the quarterback, no,
Speaker 1: it was on the blocking was not for Daz. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you have your pieces and look,
Speaker 1: Tyrant's got to be healthy. But yeah, there are signs
Speaker 1: from this season that this offense can still be what
Speaker 1: you want it to be. Okay, hereattle was not an
Speaker 1: example of that. I'll give you that for sure. Here's
Speaker 1: the homework assignment. Whoever chooses to find out go back
Speaker 1: and look after eight games, what Prescott's numbers were, What
Speaker 1: was his quarterback rating? What was his interceptions to touchdown rating?
Speaker 1: Where was the offense ranked, because I bet they were
Speaker 1: ranked in the top ten, maybe five six, something like that.
Speaker 1: They only threw in one clunker. It was Denver. That
Speaker 1: was it they had. They could have very well after
Speaker 1: eight games been seven and one. They had some struggles
Speaker 1: in that first month, but after you know, by the
Speaker 1: Chiefs game, they were rolling and then Zeke goes out
Speaker 1: and it changes the dynamic and some injuries happen, and
Speaker 1: I'm with you, there's some things you can do better
Speaker 1: to adjust what the personnel you have. See That's why
Speaker 1: that's why I wonder, why then why you didn't have
Speaker 1: and Mickey said the turnovers, that's right, But why why
Speaker 1: why did they score twelve points against Seattle? That's what
Speaker 1: I want to know well, and you could say you
Speaker 1: could say that, I mean, if you want to say that,
Speaker 1: the tyrant Smith being out is the main reason why.
Speaker 1: But you had you had your full complimented receivers, you
Speaker 1: had your running back back. So one of your turnovers
Speaker 1: cost you three points. Right, you were at the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five yard line, right, thirty yard line, something like that,
Speaker 1: So you had a field goal you well, we think
Speaker 1: you did. We think, yeah, the kicker miss two others. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I missed thirty four yard or on you. So that's
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I I don't know if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get on him for the fifty yard three yard line? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's nine. And then you don't execute at the three
Speaker 1: yard line. And look you settle for a field goal
Speaker 1: early in that game when you Zeke was running five
Speaker 1: six yards a pop, and you get to the eighteen
Speaker 1: yard line, you throw twice. You could argue, keep running
Speaker 1: the guy, keep running him. So sure there's there's coaching.
Speaker 1: It was the first field goal drive. I think they
Speaker 1: had all you rattled off a bunch of runs theither day.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're zix five six five eight, You know, I
Speaker 1: mean I heard all I heard all the numbers. He
Speaker 1: got you all the way the eighteen and you had
Speaker 1: two incompletions and you settled for a field goal there
Speaker 1: it was second and five at the eighteen. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: went they went empty, and he tried to throw that
Speaker 1: little out to Zeke and he only got two yards.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you, Brian. I mean, you have to
Speaker 1: be careful of just saying, oh, this guy was out.
Speaker 1: So that's why they struggled. I mean teams Jason wentn
Speaker 1: said it yesterday. Teams. There's a lot of teams they're
Speaker 1: gonna play in January that have handled uh injuries and
Speaker 1: or without guys, they're still going to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So see, that's where that's where I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 1: When the autopsy is, how can you be so affected
Speaker 1: by two players missing time? You know, and and maybe
Speaker 1: you could throw in Smith as being that third guy,
Speaker 1: you know, my no Smith John Zeke Tyron Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: How how do you how does a team just go
Speaker 1: to a halt, a grinding halt offensively and defensively without
Speaker 1: those guys that those three games they lost in a row,
Speaker 1: that's what's alarming, Yes, but that's they did win to
Speaker 1: re straight after that. If you figure that out, then
Speaker 1: you figured out the problems of this season. I still
Speaker 1: think it's the offensive line myself. Third and three at
Speaker 1: the sixteen, they tried to throw the ball. Yeah, Cooper
Speaker 1: and Bell they blitzed. Yeah, Cooper and Bell. They didn't
Speaker 1: handle the twist the whole thing. And every play before
Speaker 1: that was Zeke running for five and sixty. So I
Speaker 1: was sitting there going, well, maybe you just run Zeke
Speaker 1: twice here third and three. That's what depth I think, Brian,
Speaker 1: to his point depth, your depth was not as strong
Speaker 1: as you thought it was. Everywhere linebacker depth. There was
Speaker 1: the sick part of that Seattle game. So when they
Speaker 1: started that, so that was the start of the second quarter,
Speaker 1: when that sure Cowboys had eighty five yards fifty one
Speaker 1: on the ground, it's the start fifty one on the ground,
Speaker 1: ye a, and Seattle at twenty two. Yeah, and all
Speaker 1: you ended up was three to nothing in with fourteen
Speaker 1: eleven ago in the second quarter. Yeah. Oh, a lot
Speaker 1: of empty possessions in that game, no question over two
Speaker 1: in the red zone they putted twice. Yeah, they putted
Speaker 1: seven times, So you're moving the ball. Yeah, See, that's
Speaker 1: what That's what I'm saying. When you when you look back,
Speaker 1: it was was the Seattle game? What was the game
Speaker 1: that should have told us what was about to happen?
Speaker 1: I thought, it's always Thanksgiving? No, he means, was there
Speaker 1: a game that kind of should have given us a
Speaker 1: clue about the offense? About the offense Thanksgiving? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Atlanta. Mickey said, we were missing all three guys.
Speaker 1: So they are missing those guys and throw them, throw
Speaker 1: those out, throw that one out. See that's where I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure this out. I mean yeah, because you
Speaker 1: could point it at in ahand you could point it
Speaker 1: at the players. You can. You know, there's things you
Speaker 1: could do. But a tim you figure that out. You know,
Speaker 1: the game before the Chiefs game, I think I have it.
Speaker 1: They won Washington. Yeah, they spot fest at FedEx. So
Speaker 1: here was here was Here was the indication of their troubles.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why. It was. This halftime of
Speaker 1: the second Giants game, it was ten ten, that's it.
Speaker 1: Ten ten, Okay, But then they explode. And then they explode.
Speaker 1: They made them pay for a bunch of blitzes. Right,
Speaker 1: they finally hit some play hits the big one on
Speaker 1: one coverage. But it wasn't like they just systematically moved
Speaker 1: the wall downfield. But again there was no Zeke. Yeah,
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