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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Brading. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is all they called

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super producer,

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Speaker 1: pauled Mission Control Decond. Most importantly, you are you, You

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Speaker 1: are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know. It is the second episode in our

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Speaker 1: two part series on the secrets of the Founding Fathers,

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Speaker 1: a subject that's been on the minds of many people

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Speaker 1: or a number of centuries now. In our previous episode,

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Speaker 1: we talked a lot about dead presidents, not the not

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Speaker 1: the hip hop group they were all big fans of,

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Speaker 1: but the the the actual presidents of the US and

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Speaker 1: the Founding Fathers, some of whom were never president, such

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Speaker 1: as you know Matt Um, Alexander Hamilton's right, never President

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Speaker 1: Ben Franklin, never President George Mason. But they did They

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Speaker 1: did a lot of tremendous, tremendous work creating the United States,

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Speaker 1: and for a long time they were deified, perhaps to

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Speaker 1: an extreme degree, uh, and people didn't talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the hypocrisy of slavery or the uh, you know the

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Speaker 1: nature of their membership and Masonic lodges. There's still a

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Speaker 1: lot of little known myths, facts or factoids about the

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Speaker 1: president's um. So maybe we start there. Here are the facts, Matt.

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Speaker 1: If if someone hasn't listened to episode one, what's what's

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Speaker 1: some of the crazy stuff to learn? Well, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the Founding fathers were white men. No wait, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they all were. Um. They many of them owned slaves

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Speaker 1: talked about freemasonry, about how the values that that Freemasonry

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Speaker 1: up in the Declaration of Independence and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the other major documents that went into creating the thing

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Speaker 1: and the French Revolution. Right, there's a lot of commonality there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: which makes sense, But Founders was probably in there somewhere.

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Speaker 1: We're the we're the Founders. Yeah, yeah, but it's like

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But yeah, they probably they

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Speaker 1: probably did say that a couple of ales in at

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Speaker 1: hey sponsorship Founders were here, wouldn't it be nice? No,

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Speaker 1: it's a really good question. Do you really think they

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a pretty serious self aggrandizing statement. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're hanging out at the Masonic lodge

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Speaker 1: such that their common knowledge. Now, George Washington may have

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Speaker 1: What's interesting about this theory is not just the idea

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Speaker 1: thing that we have for sure talked about on this show,

422
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Speaker 1: the British East India Company. Oh yeah, And again there

423
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: a couple of slightly complicated things having to do with

424
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Speaker 1: taxes and how essentially teriffs, like how how taxes were

425
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Speaker 1: levied on some of these goods for the colonists. And

426
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Speaker 1: it's a thing we can get into if we really

427
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Speaker 1: really want to, but ultimately it's, you know, we're having

428
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Speaker 1: to pay a lot of taxes that the citizens didn't

429
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Speaker 1: feel they should be paying. And it empowered, Uh, it

430
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Speaker 1: empowered this corporation. Yes, like the Dutch East India Company,

431
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: British East India Company, these are sort of a harbinger

432
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: of corporations to come, and they are immensely powerful. They're

433
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: also they're also not restrained by laws in the way

434
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Speaker 1: that many other corporations are, at least in paper today.

435
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: So one h which effect this will have on the

436
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: American colonies is that it threatens the smuggling trade John

437
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: Hancock's stuff. I know they're messing with their messed with

438
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: johns with Hancock. Nobody messes with John and so this

439
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: makes people furious. The Sons of Liberty also, by the way,

440
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: founded by Sam Adams. If they're if they're gonna sponsor us,

441
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: we'll just keep doing Sam Adams fact facts. It's a

442
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: beer not quite good enough to drink with your mouth,

443
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: and it's a beer for what really talking about Samuel

444
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: Adams is wonderful. Oh you're just saying that there's like

445
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Speaker 1: seventeen varieties that I've tried. I do think that's cool.

446
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: I think this season those stuff is cool. I'll admit it.

447
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: They did they do the pumpkin ones, right, isn't that

448
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: the thing that Sam Adams does. They do a seasonal

449
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: like a pumpkin spice. Old Old Fezzy Wig is one

450
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: of the best beers. Is that really the name Old Wig?

451
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Who is? What? Was he? Is he in the Christmas Carol?

452
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: I think? So hold on now, I need to make

453
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Speaker 1: sure that I'm saying that right. I hope I hope

454
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Speaker 1: that he's a lesser known Sons of Liberty member. There's

455
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Speaker 1: Old fezzy Wig who was instrumental in this. It is

456
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Speaker 1: it's called Old fezi Wig. So there you have it, folks,

457
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Speaker 1: Old Fezziwig recommended by none other than Matt Frederick wholeheartedly, right, Matt,

458
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Speaker 1: without reservation, I think so so so you're right though,

459
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Speaker 1: that smuggling is a big thing. It's a big industry

460
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Speaker 1: and it thrives. The smuggling industry thrives because of the

461
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Speaker 1: taxation system imposed by the British. So a threat to

462
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Speaker 1: that is a threat to people's livelihoods. And so a

463
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Speaker 1: group of people, some disguised as Native Americans, boarded three

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Speaker 1: ships in Boston Harbor. As we said on December six,

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Speaker 1: seventeen seventy three, they dumped officially three and forty two

466
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Speaker 1: chest of tea into the ocean. This cost the British

467
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Speaker 1: East India Company the equivalent of about a little more

468
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Speaker 1: than two million dollars in today's terms. But the conspiracy

469
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Speaker 1: is that they dumped the tea and they took something else,

470
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Speaker 1: because again, the Sons of Liberty are in the like

471
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: they move in circles with smugglers, and they're smuggling associates.

472
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: Knew there was more precious cargo aboard opium, which should

473
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Speaker 1: be familiar to anybody's heard our previous episodes British East

474
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Speaker 1: India and Opium. Uh in in the opium trade in China. Wow,

475
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean it would make complete sense if the tea

476
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Speaker 1: is coming directly from China via the East India Company

477
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: of Britain um that there could be other cargo aboard

478
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Speaker 1: that ship that was not on any manifest that wasn't

479
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: recorded and you know, left to history, like you said,

480
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: if it wasn't written down, we don't know. And if

481
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: it's if it's secretly on that ship and then was taken,

482
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: it just would happen and we'd have no record. Huh. Well,

483
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Speaker 1: that would be a smart move. Dump the t take

484
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Speaker 1: the opium, because you could sell that, right, it's immensely profitable. Uh,

485
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: it's actually it's it's immensely profitable. It's immensely dangerous, but

486
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: it's a it's a way to move a lot of

487
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: money quickly. Uh. Because people might not donate to your revolution,

488
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: but they'll buy opium. So so the pieces are there.

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Speaker 1: We don't have proof, we just have a series of

490
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Speaker 1: like circumstantial interesting things, you know what I mean, And

491
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Speaker 1: together they they make for a tatalizing possibility. But we

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Speaker 1: don't know, Matt. We don't know whether they through the

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Speaker 1: t and took any opium. We don't know if any

494
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Speaker 1: opium was aboard. But then again, that's the thing. If

495
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Speaker 1: it's a smuggling situation, then you can't trust the manifest

496
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: right interesting curious or and curious or But we don't

497
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Speaker 1: know for sure. Perhaps one day in the future, newly

498
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: uncovered documents will spilled the tea on this case. Man, Yeah,

499
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: for sure, you know, and it is fascinating. I've never

500
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Speaker 1: thought about opium in colonial America. I know that the

501
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: United States after it was founded, I mean, I want

502
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Speaker 1: to say, I want to probably I think it's about

503
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: a hundred years after America was founded, there was quite

504
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Speaker 1: a bit of an opium crisis in the United States

505
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Speaker 1: because it was you know, it was a medicinal thing

506
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Speaker 1: at the time that doctors would carry with them and

507
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Speaker 1: would give you a tincture of it essentially if you

508
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Speaker 1: required it. But the abuse of it as a narcotic,

509
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: as a drug, I know nothing about in that time,

510
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, like pre eight hundreds, fascinating stuff. Yeah, and

511
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think we're not taught a lot about

512
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Speaker 1: the US relationship with opium. It's it's an old one.

513
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Speaker 1: The first millionaire officially in the US is a guy

514
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Speaker 1: named John Jacob Astor. Yeah, he died in eight but

515
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: the way he became so wealthy, it's entirely due to

516
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Speaker 1: the opium trade. We also know that going back to

517
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Speaker 1: the Mayflower in the sixteen hundreds, some pilgrims we're probably

518
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Speaker 1: carrying opium. Especially there's a physician named Samuel Fuller and

519
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Speaker 1: he probably had laudanum with him as a doctor. And

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Speaker 1: during the American Revolution, opium was a comm in medical tool.

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00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson even used it later to treat his his

522
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Speaker 1: his chronic diarrhea. But it would not be unusual to

523
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Speaker 1: see opium in the in colonial America. Would this be

524
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Speaker 1: opium that you would smoke or was it essentially just

525
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Speaker 1: like laudanum was like a tincture, right, or like you

526
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: could even put it on a rag right? Or Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I can't. I can only really speak

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00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: to the medicinal stuff. Um. We know that people were

529
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Speaker 1: like Thomas Jefferson even ended up growing poppies in Monticello. Eventually,

530
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: opium or opiates became a common ingredient in multiple products

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Speaker 1: in like I would say more of the eighteen hundreds

532
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Speaker 1: or so, but I don't know. I don't know about

533
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Speaker 1: recreational use in particular, so we would have to have

534
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Speaker 1: more proof of something for the opium high st to wore.

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00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: So instead of saying this is debunked, all it kind

536
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: of is. Instead of saying this is true what you

537
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: don't have proof for, I want to pitch it to

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00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: you guys as a film, the Boston Opium Heist. This

539
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: is good. This is a good idea. You shouldn't pitch

540
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: this on the podcast. That's a really good idea. Well,

541
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: we get like an Ocean's eleven kind of vibe and

542
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: ensemble heist film h and then you in order to

543
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: get France's support. It's something that greases the wheels like opium.

544
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: There we go, conspiracy. I love it, I love it,

545
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: but it is not true. We're gonna pause for word

546
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Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and when we return, we will tell

547
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: you a conspiracy theory that is very true and very

548
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: disturbing and should kind of scare you all. Right, we're back.

549
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: So imagine, fellow conspiracy realists, you are with us, and

550
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: as Matt said, the room where it happens. We're making

551
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: a new nation. We're building a new, really weird system

552
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: of government. We're working live. No one's tried this before,

553
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: so we want to learn from the mistakes of the past,

554
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: but we also want to pay attention to the stuff

555
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: that worked. This leads us to the situation. The Continental

556
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: Congress found itself in massively dysfunctional group, lots of competing interests.

557
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: They're not on the same page about stuff, and they're

558
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: also not efficient. They have an issue, like they one

559
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: of their big issues is paying people. There are a

560
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: ton of veterans who have fought in the war and survived,

561
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: some with you know, lifelong injuries, and they're not getting

562
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: paid because the government doesn't have the money to give them.

563
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe they spent it all on opium. I'm kidding. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The the this leads a guy named Daniel Says, a

565
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Speaker 1: veteran two rally the Vets into something called the Sha Rebellion.

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Speaker 1: The Sha Rebellion. Yeah, this was a group of Vets

567
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Speaker 1: led by Daniel Shays, like you said, and they were

568
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: not happy because they basically won the war and they

569
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: weren't paid a nickel um. And this made the leaders

570
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Speaker 1: of the United States very anxious because they needed something

571
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: to kind of strengthen their executive power. And the most

572
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: powerful executive position they knew of was a king, and they,

573
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Speaker 1: you know, certainly were not trying to style themselves in

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Speaker 1: the image of a king. That was sort of the

575
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: whole point. Um. But John Adams actually wrote, quote, hereditary

576
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Speaker 1: monarchy or aristocracy are the only institutions that can possibly

577
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: preserve the laws as well as um. You know, they

578
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: were not huge proponents of the idea of unbridled democracy

579
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Speaker 1: early on. Um. And this followed his inauguration as vice

580
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Speaker 1: president when he even designed a system that used something

581
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Speaker 1: resembling a hereditary monarchy, only it was a hereditary legislature,

582
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Speaker 1: and he had the notion of appointing the president for life. Yeah. Well,

583
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's what they wanted, right, I mean,

584
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Speaker 1: and think about what they just experienced with George Washington.

585
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: I mean, he won the war or with you know,

586
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: with the help of everyone else, he won the war,

587
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: that's my quotes, um. And then he stayed in power

588
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: for quite a while, and he was considered a good leader.

589
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: He was trusted by people, in respected by people, and

590
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: there was you know, the rebellion rebellions against him, and um,

591
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: the opinions against him were fairly good, I would say,

592
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: across the board, even even though you know, he wasn't

593
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: loved by everyone, he could keep people in line and

594
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: he had enough respect to do so. Yeah, so she's rebellion.

595
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: Of course, it's a terrifying thing to these guys, because

596
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about around four thousand, like battle trained and

597
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: tested people who said, don't tread on me. We're not

598
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: going to take it anymore. This, this is what what

599
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: on earth were we fighting for? Right? Uh? And they

600
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: have valid claims, they have valid problems, so we have

601
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: to crack down this. This might surprise a lot of

602
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: people to learn that many Founding fathers were so pro monarchy,

603
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: but it should be even more surprising that these Founding

604
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: fathers conspired against the nation they had created, which was

605
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: very anti monarchy. Right, A lot of the what Pulpe

606
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: would call the common people. Uh. In sevent six, the

607
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: President of the Continental Congress, Nathaniel Gorham, decided they were

608
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: going to pitch European Royalty on becoming the King of

609
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: the United States. So Gorham writes to Prince Henry, who

610
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Speaker 1: is the younger brother of Frederick the Great, the Prussian

611
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Speaker 1: king at the time, and in this letter, which is

612
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: a real letter, it's lost now, but it really happened,

613
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: they invite Henry to go across the pond and become

614
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Speaker 1: King of the United States of America. And they said,

615
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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna You're gonna be head of a

616
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: constitutional monarchy. We've modeled it on the English system because

617
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: that's what we understand. Is that not a little hypocritical, uh,

618
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: more than a little yeah, But it's just odd that

619
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: that was the solution. And and maybe it was just

620
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: to have a crown someone you know, have a crown

621
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Speaker 1: and the money associated maybe to stave off or in

622
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: the power. I I just don't understand the thinking. Maybe,

623
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: and I personally need to do some more reading on it,

624
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: and I highly recommend you listening to do the same,

625
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: because that is a puzzling concept. Well, I also don't understand.

626
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that there was such a like, you know,

627
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: focus on a monarchy esque form of government, considering that

628
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: this was all a product of rebelling against the monarchy,

629
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Speaker 1: and you know, been to your point in the idea,

630
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Speaker 1: I know how you hate you know, political dynasties, which

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day are sort of a

632
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Speaker 1: modern form of monarchy you know, by a different name,

633
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: but it functions very much the same um. Not to

634
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Speaker 1: mention the idea of like Supreme Court justices that are

635
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: appointed for life, we do have some things that resemble

636
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Speaker 1: some of those, you know, forms of government. And considering

637
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: that all of this again was like a rebellion against

638
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Speaker 1: those systems, I think it's fascinating that there was such

639
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: a you know, early push towards making it a lot

640
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Speaker 1: like the thing they had rebelled against. Right, right, That's

641
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: that's the issue. They should bother you if you live

642
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Speaker 1: in the US. The only reason we don't have a

643
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: king now is because of what Henry said. To be

644
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: blunt about it, Henry turned down the job. That's why

645
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: we didn't end up with the king. He was invited

646
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Speaker 1: to be king, and he said, I'm good. I know

647
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Speaker 1: what Americans due to kings. So actually we have the

648
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Speaker 1: quote he said, the Americans have shown so much determination

649
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Speaker 1: against their old king that they would not readily submit

650
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: to a new one, smart guy. So the delegates in

651
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia went to their Plan B. And today we call

652
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: that Plan B the U S Constitution. That's ridiculous. Well,

653
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: that's good. Wow, that's wow. I did not know this man,

654
00:43:54,120 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, so very close to becoming the thing it

655
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Speaker 1: sought to destroy. But but you have to just remember,

656
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean, just to give these you know the people

657
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: were talking about here and and Adams and all these

658
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: guys a little benefit of the doubt. Uh. They're trying

659
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to have a strong leader

660
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: that that as you said the quote common people would

661
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: would respect and kind of bow to without actually having

662
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: to bow, if that makes sense. And like you said,

663
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: this is these are the systems they knew before. This

664
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Speaker 1: is what worked before. Just because they didn't like having

665
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: a king all the way across an ocean dictating what

666
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: they had and had to do and couldn't do. Maybe

667
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: there was a desire to have someone like that or

668
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: a power structure like that, just that would be on

669
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Speaker 1: the land which they occupied. I don't know, I don't Yeah, No,

670
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Speaker 1: I think you're making a really good point. Maybe it's

671
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: saying will have a monarchy because we know they work,

672
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: but we'll have one that is our monarchy, right, uh,

673
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: something where we have offspring, yeah yeah, yeah, and then

674
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get support from the Prussians or something. Uh.

675
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: But these kind of machinations happen all the time, right

676
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: in these sorts of calculations. That's why that leads us

677
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: to another interesting one. The Boston massacre seventeen seventy March five.

678
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: You've heard the name. It's a it's an altercation that

679
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: leads to that that kind of becomes a spark that

680
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: ignites a larger flame. An angry mob surrounds a Century

681
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: and they start talking trash to him whatever picture whatever

682
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: the colonial American version of trash talking is. You know

683
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: what I mean. They're like, you smell of laudanum. I

684
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: don't know, and they and thanks, and uh. Eight colleagues

685
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: come to support the Century. And then the situation escalates

686
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: and people are throwing stones and clubs and snowballs, which

687
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: I thought was wholesome at the soldiers. And then the

688
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: nine soldiers open fire on the crowd. They kill five people,

689
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: they wound six others. Only two or convicted of anything

690
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: man slaughter with reduced sentences. The rest are acquitted. Without

691
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: going into this too deep, there is an idea that

692
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: the Boston massacre was purposely instigated, that it wasn't just

693
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: an organic kind of perfect storm of tension and you know,

694
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: waiting for the shoe to drop. There's the idea that

695
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: someone got together, someone conspired and said, Okay, go up,

696
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: start talking to this person. Let's get them to fire

697
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: on us. Why would they do that. We've seen this

698
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: before in the asked if you can make an opponent

699
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: act aggressively towards you without taking aggressive action towards them,

700
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: public opinion is more likely to be in your favor

701
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: as the person being attacked rather than the attacker. Right.

702
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: I think that's the primary motivation there. Um. But but

703
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how that would work. I mean, it

704
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: would have to be I can only imagine it being

705
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: a group of people speaking to you know, this angry

706
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: mob or whoever they are, and just kind of making

707
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: them angrier and angrier and getting them more and more

708
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: worked up, and then doing kind of what you're saying,

709
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: then just pointing and going, hey, look over there, look

710
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: at that guy. Let's go tell him to go back

711
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: across the pond. But even then, I don't see how

712
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: the Boston massacre. I it was, it was a rallying cry.

713
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: I just don't see how that strategically would be the

714
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: thing in that place at that time. Yeah, that's the thing.

715
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: And you raise an excellent point, because we have to

716
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: remember when someone is proposing a theory like that, they

717
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: are doing so with the knowledge of what happened after

718
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: the Boston massacre. It puts a great deal of predictive

719
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: power on any conspirator here to assume that they purposely

720
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: instigated something and somehow new roughly what effects that massacre

721
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: would have. That's let's put in a lot on them,

722
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But but let's remember what

723
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: the Project for the New American Century said in their

724
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: report that was put out right before the events of

725
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: September eleven, two thousand one, where they said, we need

726
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: a new Pearl Harbor. Oh God, you're right, And and

727
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: the whole concept of that was to to fullment public opinion,

728
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 1: to to make everybody okay with spending more money on war,

729
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: on wartime stuff, on armies and you know material. Well, yeah,

730
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm sort of being flippant, but

731
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: it's like, I think that's a lot of the reasons.

732
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: There are so many conspiracy theories behind nine eleven, is it.

733
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: It certainly accomplished a goal for like these hawkish you know,

734
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 1: people that were in power at the time, like gave

735
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: them a really great excuse to kind of duel, bait

736
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: and switch and and seek out the war they wanted,

737
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: not necessarily the war that made sense as retribution. Yeah,

738
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Speaker 1: and we're not saying that the Project for a New

739
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: American Century or anyone caused nine eleven as a false

740
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: flag attack. We are not saying that. No, that's not

741
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Heither, I'm just saying I can see

742
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: why people's minds would go there because of what it did.

743
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: It was literally what the what the what do they

744
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: call neo conservative playbook was calling for. It's exact it's

745
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: exactly what it was calling for. Um. Yeah, but it

746
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: doesn't mean we can anyone can prove that, and you

747
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: know that's just where we live. That's certainly not not

748
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: suggesting that. I think it's just a very interesting parallel

749
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: to what we're talking about. Yeah, that report comes just

750
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: before the two thousand election. Uh. And then they're not

751
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: specifically saying the towers in New York need to blow up,

752
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: but they do say a new Pearl Harbor, some catastrophic event. Uh.

753
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: And clearly there were tons of opportunists taking advantage of

754
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: of the situation, right of the chaos ensuing after this.

755
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: But with that in mindment, that's a great example. That's

756
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: I think that's incredibly grounding because some of this stuff

757
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: can seem a little bit a little bit distant, right

758
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: because we have again the benefit of centuries. But I

759
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: don't want to leave this scene of the massacre just yet.

760
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: I've learned some colonial insults. I would like to tell

761
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: you what I think they were probably calling this guy.

762
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: They were probably calling him a gentleman of three outs.

763
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: That's a man who lacks with money and manners against

764
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: three uh. And a lull poop I'm sorry, a loll

765
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: poop l o l l poop, a lazy idle man.

766
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: The female equivalent is the fsack. Wow. I didn't know

767
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: they were doing like acronym insults. That's that's some next

768
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: level stuff right there. The lull poop is now emoji

769
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: very soon. Uh. And then they probably called them a

770
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: guilt or rum dubber. These are great palliards and Clapper,

771
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: Dogan's Clapper Dogan Clapper, Dogan's dogins, I'll be I'll be

772
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: honest with you, guys. I wasn't actually at the Boston massacre,

773
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: so so I don't know, but but I love lull poop. Anyway,

774
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: moving on, what if there's a secret war happening. What

775
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: if it's not just the US or what will become

776
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: the U s fighting with Britain. What if after the

777
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: foundation of the US they are waging a war against

778
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: the illuminati. The Alien and Sedition Acts, which were signed

779
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: to the law in s under President John Adams, were

780
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: super controversial because they gave the government like fascist level

781
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: dictator powers over political dissenters and over people that were

782
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: considered to be foreigners, which is which is pretty weird

783
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: because you know, many people who fought in the Revolutionary

784
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: War were foreigners. So so this is this act is

785
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: ultimately repealed, but some of some pieces of it survived today,

786
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: and that prompts people to think there might be some

787
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: sort of hidden purpose behind the legislation. It extended the

788
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: requirement for residency from just five years to fourteen. This

789
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: is where this is where it gets very weird. These

790
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: are very harsh anti immigrant laws. Uh, they give the

791
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: federal government great power to kind of cherry pick and

792
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: choose who they wish to allow into the country. And

793
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: the idea is that they're trying to weed out members

794
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: of the Illuminati before they could become a danger to

795
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: to the newly birthed us. That's so weird, it's so interesting.

796
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: I do not think it's true. I don't understand how

797
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: it could be. I think xenophobia is a real enough

798
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: conspiracy on its own. And there you have it, folks,

799
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: These are just a few of the very strange, very

800
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: crazy conspiracy theories or secrets of the Founding Fathers. The

801
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: one that personally bothers me the most is just how

802
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: close this country came to becoming a monarchy. So, Henry,

803
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: if you are out there and listening to this show somehow,

804
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: thank you for turning down the job. Good on you.

805
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: Massive appreciate it. Uh. We haven't even gone into the

806
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: rabbit hole about Illuminati bloodlines and the Founding Fathers. That

807
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: may be an episode of its own. But in the meantime,

808
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: what do you think about the stuff we've talked about today?

809
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: Do you think any of it is possible, plausible? Do

810
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: you think it's bunk. That's maybe best left for authors

811
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: of historical alternative fiction. Let us know. You can find

812
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: us online. We try to be easy to connect with

813
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: their We're on Instagram, We're on Facebook, We're on Twitter.

814
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: That's correct. You can head on over to YouTube dot

815
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: com slash conspiracy stuff. Check out our videos. We have

816
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: a ton of them going way way way back. Watch

817
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: them for fun. There's a which one did we We

818
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: just talked about it, Ben. We were looking at some

819
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: older ones and I stumbled upon, Oh gosh, I can't

820
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: even tell you what it was, the snowpocalypse one made

821
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: it just made me laugh so hard. We made this

822
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: video back in the day about the time it snowed

823
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: in Atlanta and everybody freaked out, and uh, Josh Clark

824
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: was in it. That's right. Gave me a nice little chuckle.

825
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: I I totally forgot. I totally forgot about that one,

826
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: but that that actually held up. I think I actually

827
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: appeared in one of those videos, maybe two. But I

828
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: had a really bad haircut at the time. So if

829
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Speaker 1: you want to see me with a bad haircut, do

830
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: a little digging. It's called it's called the meeting. Check

831
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Speaker 1: out that one. That's what the video is titled. Is

832
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Speaker 1: that the one my bad haircut? Uh no, no, you

833
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Speaker 1: have an haircut, Thanks Bud. I appreciate that. You can

834
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Speaker 1: also call us, should you prefer that to social media.

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838
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839
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: most importantly on that one, let us know if it's

840
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: okay do you your name and voice on air? And

841
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,400
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