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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, It's Texans Radio. Mark Vandermre and John Harris

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Speaker 1: with you. So great to have you listening during this

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Speaker 1: holiday week, Mary, Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Holidays, and

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Speaker 1: let's have some fun here tonight. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: we will be on the air Christmas Eve with a

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Speaker 1: full show with we'll let you know what we have. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll let you know what we have at the TV maybe,

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Speaker 1: but it will be something. It'll be something, it'll be

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Speaker 1: on and it'll be good because the team is practicing tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: will be here at work tomorrow, Christmas at work. And

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Speaker 1: there are some people in the building Johnny, who their

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Speaker 1: jobs are more focused on the event part of things,

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Speaker 1: and meaning, hey, we have ten huge events a year

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Speaker 1: with all these home games, right plus the Kinders Texas Bowls.

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Speaker 1: So they're working that this week right Saturday night. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be big. And I know you canna have David Fletcher,

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Speaker 1: the general manager, leader Secretek, director of the ball. Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be good also. But they have a lot

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Speaker 1: of they're ready for this one and they might have

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Speaker 1: some time off tomorrow, but we don't, and we're not

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Speaker 1: bitter about it because we love what we do. So

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Speaker 1: there's that. We'll be on a plane Friday with the

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Speaker 1: team going to the Chargers on Saturday, a game that's

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Speaker 1: a win and in game for your Houston Texans playoff wise,

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Speaker 1: you want to know about all the clinching scenarios here

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Speaker 1: it is win and in now lose. You can still

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Speaker 1: get in with the Colts loss, that's right, But nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to leave it up to the Jags to do

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Speaker 1: your dirty work for you this weekend. Do your own work.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what in and then see what unfolds

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Speaker 1: after that? How about that?

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Speaker 2: Now there is a strength of victory component. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 2: that's the third point of how you could get in.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. You need all these different things

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Speaker 1: to play out because it weekends or strengthens different that's

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Speaker 1: different parts of your schedule or other teams.

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Speaker 2: So teams the Colts have beaten Dolphins Falcons, you need

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Speaker 2: them to lose. Teams the Texans have beaten Buffalo Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Niners.

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Speaker 2: You need those teams to win so you have strength.

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Speaker 2: So there's a third way you can make it. Number one,

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Speaker 2: the basic you win, you're in to indye loses to Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: which we don't really want that to happen.

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Speaker 1: No, we know, unless we lose on Saturday. Unless we

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Speaker 1: lose on Saturday, then we yeah right need that.

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Speaker 2: I think Sean pointed this out and did a really

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Speaker 2: good job on Sports Radio six to ten. He said,

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Speaker 2: what happens in our game determines who we're rooting for

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Speaker 2: in Jack's Colts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's hard not to root for Rivers. And

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Speaker 1: we'll n start here just for a moment. I know

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Speaker 1: people have been discussing him all day, but it's such

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Speaker 1: a compelling story. When your guy, when your guy comes back,

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Speaker 1: your guy comes back from five years off, he's forty

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Speaker 1: four years old, and he plays as well as he

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Speaker 1: did for so much of that game. I know he

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Speaker 1: threw the pick six to Deep Winters at the end.

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Speaker 1: I thought the game was kind of over at that point. Man,

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Speaker 1: the Colts defense, What the heck happened there? I have

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Speaker 1: multiple theories on everything. Well, it's not even a theory.

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Speaker 1: The Niners are playing some good football right now. And

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Speaker 1: you brought the up earlier this week, meaning yesterday. Boy,

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Speaker 1: it feels like later in the week that it really is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we just had Texans Monday yesterday. I know the thing

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Speaker 1: is it's game week Wednesday, so we feel like it's later.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to go into the whole game

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Speaker 1: week thing, but the team practiced with a Wednesday type

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Speaker 1: practice at least in many ways. Look, they're not in pads,

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Speaker 1: they're not doing a normal Wednesday routine because they just

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Speaker 1: played forty eight hours ago as they were practicing. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I think that the River's story is so compelling for

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Speaker 1: anybody young and old, just to see him with that

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Speaker 1: kind of command. And you were bringing this up before

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Speaker 1: we got on the air here about when you see

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Speaker 1: the posts him talking to his linemen, his receivers at

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Speaker 1: go there. That crowd is so quiet. I'm watching the

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Speaker 1: game last night and I didn't hear everything Joe Bucken

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Speaker 1: Troy Yikman had to say, but I hope they were

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Speaker 1: commenting on the fact that the Indianapolis crowd is the

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. This for those years, Yep, Manning probably had

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Speaker 1: you know how the Aggies have yelled practice he probably

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Speaker 1: had crowd quiet practice. I want sixty thousand people in

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Speaker 2: Well, when Peyton would get up there, he would gesture

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Speaker 2: madly like nah. He would do like the calm down,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they ever really quieted down.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it worked out, I don't know, because that was

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Speaker 2: the first and goal from the one and he threw

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Speaker 2: Peyton would do that, and he would say a bunch

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Speaker 2: of curse words like shut up, shut the bleep public,

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Speaker 2: you know. And so they eventually got it. They understood

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Speaker 2: what eighteen wanted. I mean, that's what they called him,

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Speaker 2: the sheriff. But it was fascinating and I remember having

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Speaker 2: the first half second half.

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Speaker 1: But there's a play where Rivers.

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Speaker 2: It came out in a in a three by one,

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Speaker 1: Put to that side.

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Speaker 2: And then there's a wide receiver route the right, so

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Speaker 2: Rivers you can hear him, sends down Downs and motions

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Speaker 2: nickel like looked like he was gonna blitz. So when

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Speaker 2: Downs goes over, Stout goes with him, and Rivers is

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Speaker 3: And as soon as Stout gets.

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Speaker 2: The other side, he waits to see and he sees

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Speaker 2: nothing from the Niners, so he knows they still got

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Speaker 2: a blitz on, and he changes the play to like

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Speaker 2: he saw that, they didn't change the blitz or make

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Speaker 2: any kind of change. He knew somebody was coming down

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Speaker 2: because a safety buzz down. He's like, that guy's blitzing.

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Speaker 2: They only got two to cover our three changes. The

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Speaker 2: that's that's incredible. And this whole discussion about reading coverages

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Speaker 1: All that, that's kind of popped up.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Kirk Cousins talked about that for about

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Speaker 2: two minutes. I listened to what he had sayd It

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Speaker 2: was really really good what he had to say. But

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Speaker 2: there's Rivers, the old gunsling. You're understanding exactly what you

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Speaker 2: are doing defensively and then changing the play, making sure

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Speaker 2: everybody knew the play. They executed a bunch of guys

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Speaker 2: he has not played with but two weeks, yep, and

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Speaker 2: they executed it.

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Speaker 1: Parteder, get it right too, because Grandpa's gonna be upset.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna you say, good at the right tackle last night,

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Speaker 1: Gonzalez a false start and then Rivers ripping him, got

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Speaker 1: all over, spiked the ball and he was right, And

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Speaker 1: what's he gonna say? Right? Right? And Salvis is like, uh, sorry, sir, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You mean to disappoint you. Yeah, because a lot of guys,

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Speaker 1: younger quarterbacks could not get away with no ripping their

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Speaker 1: line like that. Now in public, on national television, it's

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. What I mean, they might, they might try it,

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Speaker 1: they might do it. They also might get planted in

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Speaker 1: you will, But that was cool to see. It was

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Speaker 1: also cool to see Rivers play well. Yet the Colts lose,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of what I wanted last night. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Rivers do some things, make it entertaining for us, right,

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Speaker 1: but please lose. And the Texans beat the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: which is nice to know. And they're starting to heat

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Speaker 1: are heating up. There's also another moment. This one actually

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Speaker 1: happened in the Steelers and the Lions game.

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Speaker 2: Remember that highlight of Kenneth Gainwell went down a field

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Speaker 2: and made that catch. AZELONEI like yanks him down, but

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Speaker 2: Gainwell makes the catch falling down, doesn't get touched right,

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Speaker 1: He goes in the end zone an explosion of people

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't get touched in the process of going down, right.

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Speaker 3: So Rodgers is miked up in the game.

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see that part.

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Speaker 2: So Gainwell is standing next to him and Rodgers yells

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Speaker 2: to him, motion, he goes, go in motion and run

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Speaker 2: to the flat. And before he about he says it

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Speaker 2: motion out there running go, motion out there, runna go.

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Speaker 1: Just says that.

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Speaker 2: He says it to him. He says, motion out there

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Speaker 1: Absolutely he knew, and you know what he knew.

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Speaker 2: He knew Angeloni would go with him, right, And because

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Speaker 2: he knew Angeloni would go with him, he's like, I

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Speaker 1: He's he's I mean, Gainwell's got good receiving skills.

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Speaker 2: So now you've got Angeloni, who is a pretty good

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Speaker 2: coverage linebacker by the way, but he knew he had

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Speaker 2: him one on one, throws it to Gainwell.

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Speaker 3: That's the key, gets the catch touchdown.

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Speaker 1: They review it.

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Speaker 3: He got in. He never got touched.

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Speaker 2: But it's just fascinating that there's Rogers forty one years old,

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Speaker 2: knowing exactly what the lines were gonna do. He faced

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Speaker 2: exactly what defense they would be in. And he first

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Speaker 2: is like running the flat and he's like, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: A goat and it was just fat. I saw it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that is really cool. So it is

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Speaker 1: really cool. And he's got that old guy respect that

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Speaker 1: Rivers has. It's okay, mister Rogers, I will do that

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Speaker 1: for you. Yes, I am a Rod.

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Speaker 2: Yes, don't matter what coach said, you do what I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you right now, You're gonna go get and he

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Speaker 2: gets a touchdown. So you know, if you're if you

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Speaker 2: play alongside these guys, yeah, the coach. You know, coach

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Speaker 2: coach tells you one thing, and you know most of

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Speaker 2: those quarterbacks know, hey, I'm not gonna get too I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna get so crazy that Hey, I don't care

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Speaker 2: what your coach said to you. But if there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a tweak and you're gonna do something now, you

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Speaker 2: better make it pay off. Because Kennedy Gainwill has to

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Speaker 2: go back to the sideline and talk to his running

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Speaker 2: backs coach explain why'd you run a go route there?

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Speaker 3: And he's going, well, hey, Rod told me.

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you got to fly to a

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Speaker 1: This is why they do what they do in training camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are they doing with Well, they like to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you want to know what that offensive line was

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Speaker 1: Charlie. Where's Charlie right now? Is he? Carol Tampa we.

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Speaker 2: Now on the other side with the with the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: But that said, you got to go with what you got.

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Speaker 2: And the Chargers, nobody's crying in nobody's crying in their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And when it comes to offensive line games that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got to keep that in mind. Let's

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Speaker 1: and also played for the Texans back in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: The Christmas slate, Johnny.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when they set the Christmas slate, it looked good.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys commanders. Oh, Commander's coming off an NFC Championship appearance.

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott against Jaydon Daniels in Washington. This very easily

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they're down to Josh Johnson because Jane

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Speaker 2: hundred percent. So that is Game one on Christmas. Game

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Speaker 2: two on Christmas. The Lions, now eight and seven, struggling

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Speaker 1: Team surging surging.

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Speaker 2: However, Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy has a hairline fracture in

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Speaker 1: I mean it's almost like they should go get not

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Speaker 2: Kansas City. Those are some of the worst weather games

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Speaker 2: we've had in Kansas City.

434
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Speaker 1: You know Buffalo's outdoors right the New Mark Yeah, thank goodness.

435
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Speaker 2: Been there a couple times. The first time it was

436
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,959
Speaker 2: it was nice. It was December, but it was it

437
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Speaker 2: was It was good as it could be.

438
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Speaker 1: Look, it's Kansas City, it's not Minneapolis. I think you

439
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Speaker 1: keep it outside. That's just me. However, you build a building,

440
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Speaker 1: you pay for the roof. Now you can get a

441
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: Final Four, you can get a Super Bowl, you can

442
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Speaker 1: get a lot of other events you could not.

443
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Speaker 2: That's exact state and that's what that's what that's what

444
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 2: teams are trying to do. Hey, dome stadium, I mean,

445
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 2: think of the events we've had here.

446
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Speaker 1: Oh, Championship in Kansas City, the middle of the country.

447
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: They'll get everything. It's a smart idea, and the people

448
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: of Kansas are stepping up. The people of Missouri did not.

449
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: It's a weird city in two different states. I get it.

450
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Say, Kansas up a big

451
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: time for it going to be weird to see the

452
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Speaker 1: Chiefs in an indoor building, just as it will be

453
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Speaker 1: when the Bears eventually get their indoor stadium.

454
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Speaker 2: Just as weird as seeing Chris Oladukean play quarterback for

455
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. So on Christmas Day at Arrowham on Christmas Day,

456
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Speaker 2: you've got Josh Johnson potentially starting for the Commanders, you

457
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Speaker 2: have Max Brosmer starting for the Vikings, and Chris Oladukan

458
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Speaker 2: starting for the Chiefs.

459
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Speaker 3: In a game, we'd like to see the Chiefs beating

460
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Speaker 3: the Broncos.

461
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd love to see that. We'd love to see it.

462
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Speaker 1: And you never know about you tell me, this is

463
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Speaker 1: the night game, so today fifteenth Central, seven fifteen Central.

464
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Speaker 1: So how is the crowd affected by this? That's a

465
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Speaker 1: great question, you know what.

466
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Speaker 2: I think it's Kansas City's last home game if I

467
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Speaker 2: remember correctly. Yeah, because they're at the Raiders. So it's

468
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Speaker 2: the last home game. Maybe they show up.

469
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Speaker 1: Could be Kelsey's last game, could be Kelsey's last year exactly.

470
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Speaker 1: So I think they'll show up.

471
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Speaker 2: I think there are enough reasons that they'll show up

472
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Speaker 2: for that game.

473
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Speaker 1: It's going to be freezing. Well I don't know what

474
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: the weather is, but I assume it's not going to

475
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: be you know, seventy whiskey can't help, I guess, And

476
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: you know Christmas Day stuff. There's a reason why movies

477
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Speaker 1: for years have premiered on Christmas Day. Why we talked

478
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Speaker 1: about this last year when the Texans played the Ravens

479
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day, especially that late afternoon window. We thought, look,

480
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: not ideal for the family to have to open up

481
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Speaker 1: presents and rush to the game. But it's not really

482
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Speaker 1: a rush, but it's that late afternoon window because you've

483
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Speaker 1: done this anyway. See mattinees of movie premieres. I think

484
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Speaker 1: one of the Lord of the Rings premiered on Christmas

485
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Speaker 1: Day whatever, So it's an entertainment event and you're looking

486
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Speaker 1: for a reason to get out of the house. You

487
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Speaker 1: might be sick of the relatives by then. We need

488
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: to look at something else, not each other. Let's go

489
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Speaker 1: to an event and see that.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exact perfect football game movie. You know a lot

491
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Speaker 2: of people try and to do that. I mean they're

492
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Speaker 2: done with everything by eleven o'clock in the morning. Most

493
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: kids are up at six point thirty ready to go.

494
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Speaker 2: So you knock that out and you're like, all right,

495
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: what do we do the rest of the day? You

496
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 2: just sit there and look at yourselves and watch Christmas movies,

497
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: watch ball games.

498
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we end up doing. Nothing Friday.

499
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Speaker 2: Nothing Friday. I don't think it's anything Friday. Well, let

500
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Speaker 2: me ask you something that's traveling to la. Let me

501
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: ask you this, mister college football. Okay, that's your new

502
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: nickname for the little boy five minute segment.

503
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Speaker 1: I think I know where you're going. Why not run

504
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: a triple or quadruple header on Friday. It's December twenty sixth, Yeah,

505
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: knock them out and then do the Bulls next. I

506
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: don't know. You could play the championship game earlier. I

507
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Speaker 1: guess we are where we are whatever. I don't know.

508
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Speaker 1: I'm just surprised that they couldn't find a way to

509
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Speaker 1: avoid head to head with the NFL last weekend. I

510
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: would have played these games on a Friday night. I

511
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Speaker 1: know you had a Did you have a Friday night

512
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Speaker 1: game last week? Yes? Yeah you did.

513
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Speaker 3: You had Oklahoma albound.

514
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Speaker 1: Oh right, so you had a Friday night. You could

515
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Speaker 1: have done a doubleheader. Maybe. Okay, that might be a

516
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: little tougher because it's not exactly embedded into holiday week

517
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Speaker 1: just yet. But what's on tonight? Nothing? Nothing? I mean

518
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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve.

519
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Speaker 3: Is there's a trio of bowl games.

520
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Speaker 1: Exactly, if a trio of bowl games, so you couldn't

521
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: have done two of those tonight. I don't know. I'm

522
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: just throwing it out there. There's gotta be better window

523
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Speaker 1: opportunities than what you did to create ratings for what

524
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: you had, which was lopsided matchups.

525
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Speaker 2: Well, the thing about it from a college football playoff

526
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: standpoint that I don't understand is, Look, I understand playing

527
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl January first.

528
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Speaker 3: I understand playing the Cotton.

529
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Speaker 1: Bowl New York like.

530
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Speaker 2: I get that because those are traditional bowl if you're

531
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Speaker 2: gonna keep the bulls in this whole thing, Okay, I

532
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: can't understand that.

533
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Speaker 3: But to go up against the NFL, and.

534
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Speaker 2: You saw what college football told you a what it

535
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: thought of its college Football Playoff participants and be the NFL,

536
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: because it took JMU and Oregon and Ole Miss and

537
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: Tulane and put them directly up against the NFL. But

538
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: it made Miami in a and m play at noon

539
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: to avoid it. So the two games that they had

540
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Speaker 2: of the four, the two Marquee games, one played on

541
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Speaker 2: Friday when nobody else, nobody else was playing and the

542
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Speaker 2: other one was Saturday at eleven.

543
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Speaker 3: Now agis were just like, hey, why don't we play

544
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Speaker 3: at night?

545
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Speaker 4: Man?

546
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Speaker 3: We should have night prime time. I'm like, nobody would

547
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Speaker 3: have been watching, guys.

548
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Speaker 2: Nobody would have been watching because Bear's Packers was unbelievable,

549
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: and that's what people were watching. Nobody was watching Oregon,

550
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: Jam you even me, and you know much I love

551
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Speaker 2: college football. I turned on Bears Packers and it was

552
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: just mesmerized, and I would flop back over during a commercial. Okay,

553
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: Organs and then Oregon it's a thirty four to three lead.

554
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: Who's watching it.

555
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: At that point? Imagine Hurricanes Aggie's tonight if you will,

556
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: Now you'd only have a week to get ready for

557
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: your next game. Rather they go in Orange Bowl or

558
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: I forget where they're going going. I just would have

559
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: gone to the Cotton Bowl. That's a week from tomorrow

560
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: night or tonight. Tomorrow night. Yeah, play tonight. You've been

561
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: eight days away. You have all of Tuesday night to yourself,

562
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: and there are so many people off work this week.

563
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: Not everybody, of course, thank you everybody who's working, because

564
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: the stuff we you like to do, go to restaurants

565
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: or whatever you're doing tonight. You know you have people working.

566
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, everybody's working going to stores last minute holiday shopping.

567
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: Don't get me started. I think it's time that I

568
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: start my holiday shopping. It's usually around now December twenty fourth.

569
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Speaker 1: That's done. But here's what you should have done right around.

570
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Speaker 3: Here's what you could have done.

571
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Speaker 1: I like the eleventh hour pressure.

572
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, to true degree, but I've gotten it

573
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 3: kind of close.

574
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: You should have played the week after the championship games.

575
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: That was a week Army Navy played. That was you know,

576
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: KIRKIRB Street saying it was weird.

577
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: I was at home.

578
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: There's nothing, you know, good going on. Anyways, you had

579
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: Army Navy that weekend. But if you played your playoff

580
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: games that weekend, then to your point, you would have

581
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: played these games, the second round games.

582
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

583
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: Here, then you could have had the Bowl games with

584
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: eight days apart, and you would have had TV windows

585
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: avoiding the NFL and had it all to yourselves. It

586
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: would have been nice and you could finish the season

587
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: when you finished it in the past kind of the

588
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: eighth and ninth, the tenth of January.

589
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they look for that Monday night when the

590
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: NFL is not playing it for that's what they look for,

591
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: those opportunities.

592
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: Right, and you your sol you run right up against

593
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: them last weekend, you're running up against them on New

594
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: Years actually New Year's Day, New Year's Day, you're gonna

595
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: be kinda you'll be you'll avoid them because it's Thursday games,

596
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: so you'll kind of That's nice.

597
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Speaker 1: But that's the way it should be.

598
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: You should have New Year's Day to yourself and the

599
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: the college FOOTBA. I'm sorry, the NFL has always said, look,

600
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: new Year's Day's yours. We don't mess with it unless Sunday. Sunday,

601
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: then we'll jump in and we have to at that point. Okay,

602
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: But if other than in college football games have done

603
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: what they moved to the second yeah, or they moved

604
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: to the thirty first, they get their window to avoid

605
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Speaker 2: the NFL window.

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Speaker 1: I think I did. The first Rose Bowl that was

607
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: not on January first in forever, because when the Canes

608
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Speaker 1: played Nebraska, that was the first non Big ten Pac

609
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: ten matchup. That's what they were at the time, those

610
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: conferences Pack ten and you got the feeling from the

611
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl people they were disgusted by the whole they

612
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: were they were their red jackets. Yeah, telling you though,

613
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: they put on quite the show. If you ever have

614
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Speaker 1: a chance to go, absolutely go to the parade. Trust

615
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Speaker 1: me on this. Okay, Coming up, Cecil Short, the third

616
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: new high school head football coach, Texans in game stadium

617
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Speaker 1: host and a Texans receiver who's got stories, he's got information.

618
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Let's get to him next here on Texans Radio. Back

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Speaker 1: to it here on Texans All Access. So great to

620
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: have you listening. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to you all,

621
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Speaker 1: and thank you so much for being a part of

622
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Speaker 1: the program and all the programs throughout the year. Texans

623
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Speaker 1: and Chargers Saturday at three point thirty, Let's get to

624
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Speaker 1: Cecil Shorts, the third in stadium game day host, played

625
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: receiver for this team in twenty fifteen, and new head

626
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: coach at Houston Christian High School. So let's get into that.

627
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: What attracted Cecil to the job, what he expects Let's

628
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: dig in man.

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Speaker 4: Well, first off, I guess for me, I watched my

630
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: dad was a high school coach for twenty plus years,

631
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: so just seeing the impact he made on the people

632
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: around him, the athletes around him, the coaches around him,

633
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: and then how they impacted him has been exceptional. So

634
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: this is to be a part of that and to

635
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 4: see that on a daily basis growing up in it,

636
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: It's always been attractive to me. And then when this

637
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: opportunity come up to a really good school, I'm a

638
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: school that's moving up a division in the private school

639
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: world to already a great community, already some really good

640
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: players and coaches there. For me to come there and

641
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: try to take that program to the next level and

642
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: try to make it even more special, that was intriguing

643
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: to me, so looking forward to it.

644
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Speaker 1: See so when I heard about this, I was so

645
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: happy for you.

646
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Speaker 2: I had done this many years ago, being the head

647
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: coach at a private school, religiously affiliated school, and I

648
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: just took a lot of pride in being the head coach,

649
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: being the leader of that program. And I remember we

650
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: got to the playoffs for the first time at school

651
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Speaker 2: history when I was coaching many many years ago down

652
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, and that was such I was so proud

653
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: of that. And I know Houston Christians had probably a

654
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: better history than that. But I know there are things

655
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: that you want to be able to do with this

656
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: program that maybe others have not been able to do.

657
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing that you want to be able

658
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: to establish as the leader of the program, not just

659
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: that coach, but to face the program, the one out

660
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: in front of everybody that everybody sees every day.

661
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point. I think the main thing

662
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: is established as culture early and often, and the coach

663
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: is going to be always compete, Like we're always going

664
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: to be competing with us in the classroom, where it's

665
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: at home, trying to take the trash out, whether it's

666
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: being the first one this practice field, whether that's one

667
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: on one during practice, or whatever it may be, is

668
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: always going to be about competing, because that's how you

669
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: get better, right, And that's not only how you get

670
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: better as a football player, but as a man as well. Right,

671
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: Sometimes you don't want to wake up and deal with

672
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: the kids or whatever the case may be, but you're

673
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: choosing to do the right thing, and at the end

674
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: of the day, you're competing against yourself more likely than

675
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: anything else. And people will start realizing as we go

676
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: on with our culture. But I think that's the biggest thing.

677
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: Its establishing that culture, really building roots in that community.

678
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: I can't I can't talk enough how highly the community

679
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: is already, how much has already been talked about how

680
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: special it is, but to make the moments, to make

681
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 4: the traditions, to really dive into the history of the school.

682
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 4: School's going to be around twenty seven years, but still

683
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: to vive into that history of the school and really

684
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: make that community special on a Friday night, you know,

685
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: how can we make this a fun event for the families,

686
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: for the kids, but also doing that it helps bring

687
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: more eyes to the school, more attention to the school.

688
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: Right.

689
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: One thing that caught my eyes the head of school,

690
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: the principal, and the ad are all in one alignment.

691
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's a beautiful thing when you have

692
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 4: everybody on the same page. They want to win, They

693
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: want to be one of the best private schools in America,

694
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: and they already are there. When it comes to academics,

695
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: they already are there. When it comes to the basketball programs.

696
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: Now it's about building that football program and trying to

697
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: get it to a national level down the line eventually.

698
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: So I'm excited for the opportunity.

699
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: Cecil Shorts the third joining us new head coach at

700
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: Houston Christian High School. Cecil, It's it's not like this

701
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: as your first coaching job, your coaching responsibility. Tell us

702
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: about your background a little bit. Share with us what

703
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: you've done in the Houston area prior.

704
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 4: So. I've been at Second Baptist School majority of my

705
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: coaching career. I started there and Terry Purtle, who's the

706
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: AD at Houston Christian, he was the one that gave

707
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: me my first shot of coaching at Second Baptist. He

708
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: was the head coach there. Brought me on staff on

709
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 4: a ton from him. So I was there for about

710
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 4: five or six years varsity assistant. I was an offensive

711
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: coordinator at times, receiver coach, and dB coach, so I

712
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 4: kind of see both sides of the ball a little bit,

713
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: which helps a lot when it comes to preparing for

714
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: either side. Also, I handled middle school duties, so I

715
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: was a middle school headed coach for three or four

716
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: years there, trying to build that program up and really

717
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: get the kids excited about playing high school ball. And

718
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: that helped me kind of understand, Okay, if I have

719
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 4: a feeder school, how do I get them to really

720
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: get ready for the high school round, Like what excites them,

721
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 4: what gets them ready for football? And then just really

722
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: teaching the fundamentals you can never get tired of teaching

723
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: those things right. And then last year I was blessed

724
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: to be able to be in sixth A public school

725
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: football and learn a lot from coach Michael Lindsay and

726
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: everybody on his stad. We made it to the second

727
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 4: round of playoffs and we got to play I mean,

728
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: top tier teams like Straight Jesuit and a Task of

729
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: Seda and Summer Creek, so some of the big dogs

730
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 4: in the state and really learn and to watch not

731
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: only Lamar and great things they were doing, but the

732
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: other big time schools like the Task of Season, Summer Creeks,

733
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: what they do on a daily basis to really pick

734
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: their guys, have to pick their brains a little bit

735
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 4: and see what they do and hopefully I can add

736
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 4: some of that culture to what we have going on.

737
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 4: But yeah, for the last I guess seven eight years,

738
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: I've been in the coaching rams, just trying to work

739
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: my way up, just trying to just be patiently, patiently

740
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 4: away for my time to be a head coach, whether

741
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: that was middle school or high school, and now is

742
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: the time.

743
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: See.

744
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: So I remember the very first day that I coached

745
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: the middle school. I remember kids came in and I

746
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: was handing out pads and I'm going somewhere over this,

747
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: and one kid who ended up being my one of

748
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: my favorite players ever, I'm handing out now at the

749
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: time you hand it out pads. I handed out to

750
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: thigh pads, two hip pads, two knee pads, and I

751
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: gave him one butt pad and he waited for the

752
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: second one. And I said, William, what are you waiting for?

753
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: And he goes, well, you gave me two of everything else.

754
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: And I said, son, you got two of everything else,

755
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: you have one butt and he goes, oh, okay, that

756
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: makes sense. And my point in all that is when

757
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: you play at the highest level that you did, when

758
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: you coach at a high high school level, there are

759
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: things you assume that kids know. When you coach middle school,

760
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 2: it teaches you not to assume, because there's so many

761
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: things that you don't realize that they don't know. And

762
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: I think it ends up making you a better coach

763
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: in the long run. Did you have kind of experiences

764
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: maybe not like that, but just the fact that, oh man,

765
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: these middle school kids don't exactly know what I'm talking about.

766
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: I got to make sure I find a different way

767
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: to teach to them to make sure they understand it.

768
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: Did you find the middle school years helped you a

769
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: little bit better as you went up into the high

770
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: school ranks.

771
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 4: The middle school years were I think my most development

772
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 4: as a coach, because, like you mentioned, I had to

773
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: figure out, Okay, I want to run you know, outside zone,

774
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: and how do I teach outside zones to seventh or

775
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: eighth graders that they even heard the term outside zone?

776
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: Right?

777
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 4: How do I teach how do I teach him about

778
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: their first step as an offensive lineman? An offensive lineman

779
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: as you know in middle school maybe five eight, you know,

780
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty pounds, but he may be offensive lineman, right,

781
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: So how do I teach him his first step? How

782
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 4: do I teach the quarterback the fundamentals of handing the

783
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 4: ball off or the running back. So I had to

784
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: really break it down and that helped me develop as

785
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: a coach because it never and I listened to Nick

786
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: Saban talk about this and whoever else is big in

787
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: the ranks, the fundamentals go nowhere, Like the fundamentals have

788
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: to be taught from the ground up. So if you

789
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: can teach that from the ground up, when you get

790
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: to high school and you can get to the other levels,

791
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 4: then you can kind of evolve from there. But even

792
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: when you get to the high school level, it's still

793
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: guys that need to learn go back to the fundamentals.

794
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 4: It might not be as long as you're there, right,

795
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 4: but go back to the fundamentals. You start there and

796
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 4: then you evolve and kind of go forward. So that

797
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: definitely was a lot of fun in middle school. It

798
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: was challenging, but that's probably the purest form I've been

799
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: a part of football, because they're just they're just to

800
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 4: play with their boys, truly, this enjoy it, truly just

801
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: to have a good time, and they want to win

802
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 4: some games along the way, right. So that was a

803
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 4: lot of fun being a part of middle school. But

804
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: you're right, it's really about laying that foundation and learning

805
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: how to communicate at their level, which will be communicate

806
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: at a higher level when you go up.

807
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: See so being the inn stadium host for game day,

808
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: you get a lot of notoriety, a lot of attention.

809
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: Are there some people, I'm guessing this happens sometimes. Are

810
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: there some people that are surprised to learn that you

811
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: actually played for the Houston Texans and played in the

812
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: NFL extensively.

813
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 4: Yes, people now it is like I'm more I don't

814
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: look at myself as a celebrity at all, but people

815
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: will see me more as a in stadium host and

816
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: know more be about that like, oh you played ball?

817
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: Oh wait for Texas?

818
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: Oh really? Oh cool? I'm like, yeah, that's correat.

819
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: It's fun man. You get to be around the fans,

820
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 4: you get to be on the on the sideline close

821
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: to the game, and it's fun because the guys are

822
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 4: playing really well in the field. So to be help

823
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: helping that excitement, to help that building really get fired

824
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: up is pretty cool.

825
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So I know that maybe some opposing coaches are listening,

826
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: so you don't want you to give up too much.

827
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: But what are you running?

828
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: Man?

829
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: Offensively? I mean, you played in the NFL, you played

830
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: different systems. What do you what are you running both

831
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: sides of the ball? Come on, give us a little

832
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: preview of what you want offensively and defensively.

833
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: As you know, John, it depends on your personnel, right. So,

834
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: so I don't want to do something my guys can't

835
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: handle or what they're not good at. Right, But as

836
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: I'm watching the huddle and watching the film. You know,

837
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 4: we got a quarterback that can sling it. We got

838
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: we got a couple running backs in the stable that

839
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: that aren't bad at all. We got to singing running back.

840
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: I think it'd be pretty good. So I think, when

841
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 4: I'm looking at it right now, I would love to

842
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 4: run a pro style. I love outside zone, I love

843
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: mide zone. I love the bootleg off of that. And

844
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, like our playbooks. I always

845
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: think the playbooks should be simple to the players for

846
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: the little complex to the defense. So we may run

847
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: counter power and zone, but we're gonna run out of

848
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: ten different formations and we're gonna add motions and shifts

849
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 4: and explode to different things. And now the defense thinks

850
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: is Monday night football, and they're like, hey, what the heck,

851
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 4: we didn't watch this on film. But it's the same

852
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 4: stuff that we do. Like nothing changes for us, if

853
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 4: that makes sense. It just looks different to the defense.

854
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 4: And on defense, you know, I'm thinking four two five.

855
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: I really got to look at what I have though.

856
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: But in today's game, where there's more passing, there's more

857
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: there's more people that are getting rid of the ball quickly.

858
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: I want to have that extra dB on the field possibly,

859
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 4: So that's that's what I'm thinking offensive and defensively right now.

860
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 4: Don't want to give too much up because you know,

861
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 4: I know a Piscopal and K probably listening, but it'd

862
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 4: be fun.

863
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing with the private school too.

864
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: The four two five is perfect because you don't always

865
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: get linebacker type bot. You know, sometimes you get that

866
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety pounder and you're like Leslie safety linebacker.

867
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Speaker 1: What you know, we played four to five, So just

868
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: put him at ninety pounder. Houston Christian might be playing

869
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: defensive tackle right playing pretext at some point. All yeah, see.

870
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on the current Texan seven

871
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: game winning streak in progress, where it might go from here?

872
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: What are you seeing in general?

873
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: I tell you what, it's fun to watch. The defense

874
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: obviously is playing outstanding. I'm happy to have CJ back,

875
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 4: that's been It's been a plus. Love Davis coming in

876
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 4: and stepping up and playing well. But it's something about

877
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 4: having seven on the field to give you some confidence

878
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: about him being there. It's like, all right, cool, you

879
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: know things are gonna be okay. But to have this

880
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: win streak and I'll be honest with you, the FC

881
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: South is tough man. I'm watching the coach last night

882
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 4: and Philip is trying to try to keep the coach alive.

883
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah night, But it's tough, man. And for them to

884
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: continue to find ways to win no matter what's going on.

885
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: And people are like, oh, well the Raiders they should

886
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: have Well, it's an NFL team, and the Raiders going

887
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: to give you your best shot every single week. Whoever

888
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 4: you play, gonna give your best shot against that defensive

889
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: offense where the case may be. So for them to

890
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: keep finding ways to win. And as you guys know,

891
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: I mean good things winning December and January November, that's

892
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: just what it is. So to be hot at the

893
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: right time, to start finding your identity at the right time.

894
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun to see. And the AFC

895
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: is wide open. There is no passion. No AFC goes

896
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: to Mahomes. No, the AFC goes to Lamart, No, it doesn't.

897
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: It's wide open in my opinion. But the Texans to me,

898
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: have a real shot of making some noise and kind

899
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 4: of getting over that hump and getting topefully to the

900
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 4: AFC Championship Game.

901
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: And beyond outstanding see soul one more for you, And

902
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: we don't mean to bring it up to rub it in,

903
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of people who attended John

904
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: Carroll in this building and they're very happy with a

905
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: recent result that yeah, defeating Mount Unions. Well look they

906
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: brought up his name. This is his chance for equal

907
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: time because I know that had to be a tough one,

908
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: but you do have history on your side in general

909
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: with Mount Union over everybody in Division three. Being an alum,

910
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: your thoughts on what went down here in the postseason.

911
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 4: My heart hurts right now because I have a lot

912
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: of trash. I can talk because I beat Frank Ross

913
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 4: four times in an hour. Five times we played. We

914
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: were beating five times in college. You know, wait, with

915
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 4: Catherio going there, I got some bragging right seeing. I

916
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 4: mean you're kind of walking around a little confidently. Then

917
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 4: they leave the conference and like, oh, y'all scared of

918
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: us in the conference and they come in seut us

919
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 4: up in our own place. Kudos to them, man, that's

920
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 4: a really good program. Obviously put a lot of people

921
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: out there. But it definitely hurts. But you know, Frank

922
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: and they have some They definitely have some bragging Rice

923
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: right now.

924
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: Well, Cecil, Hey, congratulations on getting the Houston Christian High

925
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: School football coaching gig, and we look forward to seeing

926
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: you again in the regular season finale and beyond at

927
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: NRG Stadium hosting game day stuff. Thanks so much for

928
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: joining us.

929
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks, I'll be talking about.

930
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: There's Cecil Shorts the third. Always a pleasure visiting with

931
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: him and love that twenty fifteen season when the Texans

932
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: rebatted from two to five to win the division. That

933
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: was very cool stuff and he was a big part

934
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: of that. All right, coming up, Texans matchup is coming

935
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: up soon enough. Before that, are quickie Houston Methodist Minutes.

936
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: We usually do it on Thursday, but it's a strange

937
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: week because you have the holiday on Thursday. So let's

938
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: do this. Sleep troubles who doesn't have them? We'll dig

939
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: in a little bit next here on Texans Radio. Final

940
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: segment here tonight on Texans Radio. And we usually do

941
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Minutes on Thursday, but Thursday's Christmas and there's

942
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: an NFL triple header on Sports Radio six to ten

943
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: that you want to listen to. Driving out and about

944
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: visiting the relatives, getting away from the relatives, whatever it

945
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: is you might be doing in the car. On Thursday,

946
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: I realized that radio is still very much a car medium.

947
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: But you also have the Odyssey app, so you can

948
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: follow us anywhere anyway. Houston Methodist minutes. I try to

949
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: occasionally get into stuff that everyone can relate to. How

950
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: about sleep issues, I've got some, maybe you do too.

951
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: And doctor Gunjin Nirwani joins us right now, and I

952
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: start this interview with my own issues, which are I

953
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: have no trouble falling asleep at night. I am out

954
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: like a light, but three hours later, sometimes I'm up

955
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: and my brain just starts operating at full volume. So

956
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: what about my condition? How would that be classified?

957
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 5: Without knowing a whole lot more of what's going on,

958
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 5: I would say, when you find it hard to fall

959
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 5: back asleep, what are you doing?

960
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking the brain will not shut off, doctor,

961
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: it just constantly goes. I don't read my phone or

962
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: do those kinds of things. I don't turn on the TV.

963
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get back, but there's a little man

964
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: inside my head with a little pick axe just going

965
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: at it. I don't know what to say.

966
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 5: So this is actually really common, and one of the

967
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 5: first things that we teach our patients when they can't

968
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: fall back to sleep in the middle of the night

969
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: is actually to get out of the bed. Get out

970
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 5: of the bed, go into a quiet room, engage in

971
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 5: an activity that is not too stimular but maybe empty

972
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 5: the dish rusher or foldsome laundry. Do a quiet activity

973
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 5: for the next fifteen to twenty minutes until you feel

974
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 5: like you're ready to get back to sleep, because, in fact,

975
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 5: laying in bed and trying to force yourself to sleep,

976
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 5: especially in the middle of the night, is actually it

977
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 5: makes it worse. It kind of trains your body and

978
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 5: your brain that it's okay to be awake in bed.

979
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 5: So we actually it sounds hard, but we actually train

980
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 5: patients to get out of bed, do something else, and

981
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 5: when they feel ready to get back to sleep, try

982
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 5: it again. And it may happen multiple times over the

983
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 5: course of the night. But that is the way that

984
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 5: we break it. It's like a habit. Like anything else.

985
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 5: We have to teach the body and the brain again

986
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: that bed is for sleep and only for sleep. And

987
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 5: I think that you're already doing a lot of the

988
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 5: right things by not using electronics, because I see a

989
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 5: lot of that, and it's really tempting to grab a

990
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 5: phone or turn on the TV. So if that is

991
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 5: not something that you are doing again, that's great, But

992
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 5: spending long periods in bed awake is actually not good.

993
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: There's doctor good Norwani of Houston Methodist, the official healthcare

994
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: provider of the Houston Texans, Houston Methodist leading medicine. All right,

995
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. For this particular program coming up,

996
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: it's Texans Matchup and you don't want to miss it.

997
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Johnny Harris on everything that happened against the Raiders and

998
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of other great stuff as well. Tomorrow we

999
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: will do a full show. Nick Cassio will lead us off,

1000
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: so you don't want to miss that. You know, forget

1001
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: about the family and presence or whatever else you might

1002
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: do on Christmas Eve. Yea, some people do open presents

1003
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve. I grew up that way. But listen

1004
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: to the interview instead of participating in family activities. I'm kidding.

1005
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: Do both have the Odyssey app you can rewind. You

1006
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: can listen to the podcast later, or if you're out

1007
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: and about driving to wherever it is you're going listen

1008
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: to Nick at six nick at night. Wait a minute,

1009
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: that sounds original. Also Thursday, I mentioned the triple header

1010
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six ten Friday Full Show Before You

1011
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: Hear the Texans and the Chargers on Saturday afternoon live

1012
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: from LA. We'll have text countdown presented by Medelo Especily

1013
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: album at twelve thirty, kickoff at three point thirty. Let's

1014
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: do it. Have a great night everyone, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays.

1015
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Speaker 1: Go Texans.