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Speaker 1: everyone welcome to Draft Season, the Holiday Edition. Just so

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Speaker 1: you guys are aware of recording this on the Monday

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Speaker 1: any other big announcements come in your way the next

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Speaker 1: couple of days that we don't touch on it. That's

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Speaker 1: why I am John Schmelk. John is always by Tony

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Speaker 1: Pauline from sports Keita Tony. Merry Christmas, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Sam to you and your family, John and Sam to

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Speaker 2: our viewers. Happy Honnick. And as you mentioned, this has

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Speaker 2: been taking place where recording this the day before Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 2: which is December twenty third, So I gotta say Happy

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Speaker 2: Festivus to all of those out people out there who

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Speaker 2: celebrate Festivus. The airing of grievances has already come in

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Speaker 2: and they will be extended for a year for the

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Speaker 2: New York football fans.

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Speaker 1: The Aluminum Poll is out. Let's rock and roll. Good call, Tony.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. Before we get to

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Speaker 1: the college football playoffs, we'll talk about those games, will

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Speaker 1: preview next week's games because next week's episode is going

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Speaker 1: to be recorded and airing next Thursday on January second,

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Speaker 1: after those games are played, so we can react to

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Speaker 1: the second round of the college fotball playoffs and the

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Speaker 1: rest of the bowl games too. We'll got some bowl

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Speaker 1: games in that area as well, so we'll do all

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Speaker 1: that in today's show. Tone I'm very pumped up of that.

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Speaker 2: He'd be good, absolutely, absolutely a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so let's get to this first declarations.

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Speaker 1: Anything jump out at you over the last week since

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Speaker 2: Spoke, Well, I think the only thing that I really

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Speaker 2: saw is Patrick Payton, the pass rusher from Florida State

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Speaker 2: who had a terrible year. Like most people, the entire

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Speaker 2: program of Florida State is not going down to the draft.

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Speaker 2: Did you get to transfer to LSU, which I think

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Speaker 2: many of us thought Patrick Payton had top forty five,

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Speaker 2: if not top thirty two, potential. He was disastrous right

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Speaker 2: from the get go. Jimney brought that point up the

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Speaker 2: first time we had him on. I mean, if he

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Speaker 2: a better conference. Good for Patrick Payton. I think that's

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Speaker 2: the best movie could make.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, it was a ho hum watch the

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Speaker 1: first half of these games and then figure out what

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Speaker 1: else you gotta do with your holiday weekend type of

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Speaker 1: college football playoffs. Obviously we stuck through him to talk

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Speaker 1: what I would consider non competitive games, Clemson Texas was

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Speaker 1: Indiana Notre Dame was last Friday Night. Tony and Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame just kind of beat Indiana at their own game, right,

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Speaker 2: I think the Indiana Notre Dame games set the tone

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Speaker 2: thought for Indiana, SMU, the moment was just too big

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Speaker 2: Now they haven't done that for a while, but they

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Speaker 2: And I think you gotta start off with Riley Leonard,

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Speaker 2: You know, you could see the athleticism, you could see

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Speaker 1: No, I'm with you one hundred percent. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the other quarterback then, Curtis rock Tony. He's a guy

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Speaker 1: that was a transfer obviously, twenty thirty three, two hundred

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Speaker 2: Marvelous year. I mean, despite the fact that he had

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Speaker 2: Was huge in getting Indiana to where they are, where

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Speaker 2: the Shrine ball. I agree with you. I think with

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Speaker 2: definitely elevated his draft stock. I mean last year, two

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Speaker 2: with potential late round grades. Didn't have a great twenty

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Speaker 2: played much better this year. So he's moving towards the

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Speaker 2: draft process with elevated draft grades, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny, you know, we a lot of this

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame players. You know, there was some complaints from

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Speaker 2: And beat Michigan. They beat Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Mission was not very good this year, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: No question of quality win. But I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Listen, you played a schedule that's put in front of you.

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Speaker 2: Indiana was a one loss team that one game they

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Speaker 2: But I got no problem with Indiana, who was eleven

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Speaker 2: But still a one loss team out of the Big

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Speaker 2: the College Football Playoffs and they beat Michigan, I have

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Speaker 2: there should be no problem with that at all.

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Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. You can only beat teams

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Speaker 1: that are on your schedule in front of you, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, all right. Notre Dame Tony. He was

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Speaker 1: But he had a big game. Jeremiah loved their running

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Speaker 1: he a guy that will be talking about his potential

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Speaker 1: running back one next year? He's Julian love Form Giant's

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well we'll be talking about him. He keeps ninety

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was in ninety eight or was in ninety six?

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Speaker 2: I think it was night. I mean, i'd be bro't take.

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Speaker 1: All the way from the kid. It's Christmas time, Tony.

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Speaker 2: It was long, that's for sure. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: because he's not draft eligible. I'm not hearing you know,

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Speaker 2: guy to become drafted. But I want to say, and

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Speaker 2: Anthony Hill will linebacker from Texas. But listen, I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously somebody to keep an eye on, no.

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Speaker 1: Question about it. All right, let's go to the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball for the Notre Dame. You already

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Speaker 1: mentioned the Xavier Watts pick. He was one of the

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Speaker 1: guys you wanted to keep an eye on this game.

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Speaker 2: Ten tackles, one interception. I mean, he is just a smart,

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Speaker 2: efficient safety. Not going to be in an early draft

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Speaker 2: you know, early day three safeties go on to start

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Speaker 2: matchup I was looking for against Curtis Rourke and obviously

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Speaker 2: right off the bat, Xavier Watch came off the winner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And there was just an overthrow right and Wats

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish and two

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes before we started recording, I read that he's

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the game that Notre Dame's

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Speaker 2: There's definitely a talent differential and Notre Dame's really gonna

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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump to SMU Penn State. Penn State

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Speaker 1: By the way, Kobe King brother twin brother, which I

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Speaker 2: This week, and they're gonna have to switch it up

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Speaker 2: Four receptions for sixty nine yards. I think his kind

432
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Speaker 2: of full. He did not have the season that the

433
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 2: scouts expected, and he's gone for a potential third round

434
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: pick to the fifth round. Wade with Doz, the middle linebacker.

435
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't talk about. He is a

436
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 2: draftable prospect. Eight tackles. I mean again, Texas on paper,

437
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 2: you know, had the decided advantage, and after that first

438
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 2: drive they came through. I do think that, you know,

439
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 2: we've talked about Queen Viewers. We haven't talked about him glowingly.

440
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 2: And when you look at kay Klubeck versus quinn Ewers

441
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: in this game, they were basically neck and neck. And

442
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean kay Klubeck is a late round pick at best.

443
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 2: He's probably not going to not going to even gets drafted,

444
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: and Youwers really wasn't able to take advantage of it.

445
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,239
Speaker 2: I do like John Dave Barren, We've talked about him

446
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 2: a couple of times, the defensive back, cornerback from Texas

447
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: that can play corner, he can play Nickel had two

448
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 2: pass breakups.

449
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Speaker 1: Then this year for him, he's been He's got in

450
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Speaker 1: his hands on the ball a lot this season.

451
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Speaker 2: He's a smart, tough defensive back. And then you look

452
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Speaker 2: at that Texas defensive line. Baron Soowell, who's going to

453
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: beat the Senior Bowl three tackle, one and a half

454
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: tackles for loss one sack. I have him as a

455
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Speaker 2: third round pick. Ethan Burke, the underclassman the other defensive end,

456
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: basically the same numbers, and Alfred Collins, a fifth round

457
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 2: defensive tackle, had the four tackles. A lot of talent

458
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 2: on that Texas defensive line that doesn't get talked about

459
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: too much because everybody concentrates on their offense, and they

460
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 2: had a lot of guys like the and Andre Sweat

461
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: and Byron Murphy who left last year. But they still

462
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 2: have some draftable prospects on that longhorned defensive line.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see about Antonio Williams, the wide receiver out

464
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: of Clemson. You mentioned in four catches, sixty six yards

465
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 1: at a touchdown, five to eleven one ninety richard sophomore.

466
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Speaker 1: So if decide whether he wants to come out in

467
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Speaker 1: this draft, and it's not a top heavy wide receiver group,

468
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Speaker 1: but there is deep, like the wide receiver position is

469
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: every year, it's always deep, right, So we'll see what

470
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Speaker 1: his decision is. You mentioned Kate club Nick twenty six

471
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Speaker 1: to forty three, three indred and thirty six yards, three

472
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Speaker 1: touchdowns at a pick. Really strong numbers, yours. In this game,

473
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: they ran the ball so well Texas. I want to

474
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Speaker 1: get your take on their running back shoots because they're

475
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Speaker 1: so productive. Tony yours was seventeen of twenty four, two

476
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: hundred two yards, one touchdown, one pick. But Texas, they

477
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: just ran the ball in this game an awful lot.

478
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: I'll bring up the numbers here very quickly, just so

479
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: we're on the same page and the fans know who

480
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: we're talking about here. But in this game, you had

481
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: Blue who had fourteen carries for one hundred and forty

482
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Speaker 1: six yards in this game. He ran it all over

483
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Speaker 1: the place. And it wasn't just him. They spread the

484
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Speaker 1: ball around. That was Jayden Blue. And then they had

485
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Speaker 1: Quintravian Wisner who had fifteen carries for one hundred and

486
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: ten yards. Seven yards of carry for Wisner, ten yards

487
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: of carry for Blue. Texas just dominated this game on

488
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Speaker 1: the ground.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And first it starts with the offensive line. They

490
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 2: got an outstanding offensive line. We talked about the Cameron Williams,

491
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: the right tackle, we talked about the Calvin Banks. But

492
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 2: they've got some good players on the interior. Now Jayden Blue,

493
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: who's an underclasso and I think he's a middle round

494
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: pick right now. Be interesting to do see what he

495
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 2: does because he's the number two back on that depth chart.

496
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Speaker 2: You know, depending on how far Texas advances to the

497
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Speaker 2: college football playoffs, does he enter the draft, does he considering,

498
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: excuse me, transferring to another school. But I think right

499
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: now you're looking at a middle round pick. As far

500
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: as Wisner's concern, Wisen is a true sophomore, so we

501
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: got to wait on him.

502
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. But good good players and

503
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: Texas once again one of the most talented teams in

504
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoffs. They have a chance to win

505
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 1: it all if they can put it all together, and

506
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 1: yours continues to play well. All right, Tony, Let's move

507
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: on to Texas and Arizona State. They take on one

508
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: another and Round two of the College Football Playoffs. Your

509
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: thoughts on that game?

510
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Peach Bowl, And like Penn State, this

511
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: was the other bracket that you wanted to be in

512
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: because you've got Arizona State, who I believe at the

513
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: end of the year was ranked number fifteen when they

514
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: won the Big Twelve Championship, but got in by virtue

515
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: of winning the Big Twelve championship.

516
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: And they blew out Iowa State in that game too.

517
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: They hammered him at Iowa State, who's a pretty good team. Now,

518
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: I mean, on paper, Texas should win this game by

519
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: thirty five points, but they don't. You know, that's why

520
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: they play the game. And Arizona State is an incredibly

521
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: well coached team. You know, They've been behind the eight

522
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: ball before and they consistently come through. If you're looking

523
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: for a couple of guys to watch, you gotta watch

524
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: Max Anchor their big right tackle against those those Texas

525
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: defensive ends Baron Sowell and Ethan Burke who I just mentioned.

526
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at Iron Anchor, I mean, he

527
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: just looks like an NFL offensive lineman. He's got that big,

528
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: thick lower body, he moves relatively well. Came into the

529
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: season with free agent grades. Some scouts have him as

530
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: early as the fourth round right now, So that'll be

531
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 2: a matchup to watch. And then, of course Cam Scattabo,

532
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: who was just announced as accepting his invitation to the

533
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: Senior Ball. You know, the tough interior running back transfer

534
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: from Sacramento State. You mentioned that the Iowa State game,

535
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 2: how they handled Iowa State. I think Scatabo had what

536
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty six yards rushing that game. You know,

537
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: runs around players, runs through players, carries the pile. We're

538
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: gonna see him at the Senior ball kind of remember

539
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: reminds me of and this is going to be a

540
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: name that a few people may remember. Bryan Leonard of Rutgers.

541
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: The way he was just a big, powerful ball carrier

542
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: who kind of invited contact, you know, look to take

543
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: on and punish the opponents. That's the kind of player

544
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: that Scatabo is and it's worked out well for Arizona State.

545
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. Here's very low to the ground compact, right, a

546
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: very strong, good contact balance. You know, he's not gonna

547
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: wie on the forty, Tony, but he knows how to

548
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: play the position, so he off to play well if

549
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: the Arizona State wants a chance to beat Texas in

550
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: the Peach Bowl. All right, final game from the weekend.

551
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State just comes right out throwing the ball. I

552
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: like to see. I like to see Ryan Davey aggressive

553
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: getting the ball out to Jeremiah Smith, someone that we're

554
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to wait two more years for. It's gonna

555
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: be a long way because he's a heck of a player.

556
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: But Ohio State just dominating Tennessee in this game, Tony.

557
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, from the word go. You know Ryan day chip

558
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: Kelly as well, he got much maligned offensive coordinated there,

559
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: and especially coming off of that Michigan game where they

560
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: were just terrible offensively, he couldn't get anything going. I

561
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: think number one in the preview last week, I talked

562
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 2: about the interior of that Tennessee defensive line kind of,

563
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: you know, trying to employ that same sort of Michigan

564
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: game plan and take advantage of the weakness of that

565
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State offensive line. Omar Norman lot the defensive tackle

566
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 2: Bryce and Easton Omari Thomas combined for two tackles and

567
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: one tackle for loss. So obviously Ohio State offensive line

568
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: came into the game with a chip on their shoulder

569
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: after that Michigan game. They knew what was gonna happen,

570
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: and they did a great job protecting Will Howard. They

571
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 2: did a terrific job for the running game. I mean,

572
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson, I thought, did a real good job on

573
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: James Pierce. Hall get to a second. Pierce had three

574
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: tackles and two tackles for losses. But really there was

575
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: not a lot of pressure on Will Howard and that

576
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: was because of that offensive line. It's gonna be interesting

577
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: when you look at James Pierce, because a lot of

578
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: people had him graded as a top five player pass

579
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: rushing numbers off the twenty twenty three, but he's thin,

580
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: he doesn't have it seem to have a lot of

581
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: growth potential, but he is incredibly athletic and he made as.

582
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tony, I mean he reminds me of almost

583
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: like like the like Nick Benito types, right, who was

584
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: super productive and athletic. But he's just small, right thin.

585
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: Can he figure out how to be more than just

586
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: like a situational pass rusher because he can't rush the

587
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: pass it, there's no question about it. I just don't

588
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: know what his size and frame. You know, he's like

589
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty pounds. We'll see what he weighs

590
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: in at. I'm sure he'll be drinking water like crazy

591
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: before he gets on the seal with the combine. But

592
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: he's a guy that just does not have a huge

593
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: rain but he does know how to get after the quarterback.

594
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: Well, go back to what my conversation with Jim Naggie

595
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: about Ty Robinson the Nebraska defensive line and how they

596
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: line him up on the inside and the outside. It

597
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: knows tackling, move him around. That's what a defensive coordinator

598
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: is gonna have to do with James Pierce. I mean,

599
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: put him up, put his hand on the ground on occasion,

600
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: line him up in space, have him dropped back off

601
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: the line of scripts because he has that athleticism. A

602
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: zone blitz have him stand over tackle. I I think

603
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: he'll be able to do it. I think it's more

604
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: important that a defensive coordinator allows him to do it

605
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: rather than just kind of segments him as an edge

606
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: rusher because he is so athletic. You know, you mentioned

607
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: the freshman receiver from Ohio State, Mecca Buca, had a

608
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: real good game. Five receptions any one yards. Nothing outstanding,

609
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: but just very solid. Does the little things well. I

610
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: like the route discipline. You know, just stayed disciplined with

611
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: his routes and if the ball wasn't thrown in his direction,

612
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: well there was a receiver that was open underneath him

613
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: because of the fact that you know, he wasn't being

614
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: selfish with his routes. Again, Abuca, I like him as

615
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: a maybe a late second, early third round choice. Some

616
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: people have in the first round. I just don't see

617
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: it with them. I think he's a nice complementary receiver,

618
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: which is what he's been at Ohio State the past

619
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: couple of years. But he had a real good game,

620
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: and I gotta tell you, I know everybody loves quin

621
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: Shawn Jenkins at Ohio State with Trayvon Henderson, he's gonna

622
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: be underdrafted. I don't know if he's gonna end up

623
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: in Day two. He's just a terrific all around back.

624
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: What do you have eighty yards on ten carries in

625
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: the game with two tds, four receptions for fifty four yards.

626
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: He's explosive, he's creative, He's an outstanding pass catcher of

627
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: the backfield. And I think what's gonna happen with Trayvon

628
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: Henderson because of the fact he's had some injuries in

629
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: the past, and then they brought in quin Shawn Jenkins

630
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: with that nice NLI deal, so he kind of had

631
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 2: to share carries again this year. Somebody's gonna get a

632
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: real steal with Henderson, probably, if not late Day two,

633
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: somewhere in the fourth round of the twenty twenty five

634
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Speaker 2: NFL drafts.

635
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Boy, I always say it has the perfect running

636
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: back combination, right. Henderson's kind of there receiving threat, the

637
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: perimeter player, things like that, while quin Shawn Jenkins is

638
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of there between the tackles guy. He does a

639
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of the dirty work. He was ten carries, thirty

640
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Speaker 1: four yards and two touchdowns in this game. By the way,

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Speaker 1: of the New York Football Giants. And then you had

645
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: the usual cast of characters on defense only that we

646
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: talked a lot about this year and the defensive backs.

647
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: The corner has actually had a nice little game for

648
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: a while State.

649
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: No mental breakdowns, no lapses, didn't give up any big plays. Now,

650
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: a lot of that had to do with the pressure

651
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: that Ohio State got up front, which I'll get to

652
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: in a minute, but still I thought both starting cornerbacks

653
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 2: and even their nickelbacks and safeties played very very well

654
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: protecting against the big playability of Tennessee. That will bowl

655
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: well for Burke and the the other kid at Bazooman

656
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: if he enters the draft, because both of those guys

657
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: have had a difficult season up front. I was really

658
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: impressed with Tyler Williams. I mean, he only ended with

659
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: three tackles, but he caused a lot of mayhem and

660
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: it was his pressure and his ability to penetrate the

661
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage that created opportunities for his teammates multiple times,

662
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: just blowing up plays and the quarterback had a move

663
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: his feet or leave the pocket because he penetrated the

664
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Not the biggest guy in the world,

665
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: but explosive, very quick, very athletics. JT. T. Miloe eight tackles,

666
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: two and a half tackles for lost, two sacks, had

667
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: a real nice game. Jack Sawyer five tackles, one and

668
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: a half tackles for lost, one and a half sacks.

669
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: Both I had a nice game. We know these guys

670
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: can rush the passer, but you know the criticism and

671
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: I think justifiably so was they were hit and miss

672
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: for most of the years. And I think because most

673
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: of the year, most of the season, I think because

674
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: of that what went on in that mission game, I

675
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: think because of TYLERK. Williams, those guys really stepped it

676
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: up two may Low. It is going to be a

677
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: real interesting scouting guy to scout moving forward, because when

678
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: he's on his game, he is just incredibly explosive and

679
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: he is tough to stop. But he's not on his

680
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: game all the time. It's hit and miss with him.

681
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer kind of reminds me of Anthony as Alone,

682
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 2: the linebacker from Detroit, in the sense that you know,

683
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: he's the guy who not the greatest apt in the world,

684
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: but wow, I mean he he's just go, go, go, go,

685
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: go intense intense intents. I think he's gonna be drafted

686
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: a little bit later than what people think fourth round,

687
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: maybe early third round. But like James Pierce, if you

688
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: get a good defensive coordinator who's creative, who knows how

689
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: to use him, he's going to be a real good

690
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: Sunday player, all right.

691
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: And then you have the game next week, and this

692
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: is the premier second round game, at least in my opinion,

693
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: Tony Ohio State Oregon in the Rose Bowl. This is

694
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: a game that the winner of this team could very

695
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: well win the national championship and win are they still

696
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: calling it the National Championship? Is the College Football Playoffs

697
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: champion whatever that they're calling it. And they have some

698
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: really good matchup starting with the Ohio State pass rush

699
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: against two Oregon offensive tackles and offensive lineman. I know

700
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: you're a big fan of Yeah.

701
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: The premier game at the Premier Bowl, I mean the

702
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: Rose Bull, the granddaddy of them, all you have, you

703
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: have two packed, two Big ten teams, although it's what

704
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: the Big the Big fourteen now in a matchup that

705
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: usually last year would have been the Pac twelve against

706
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: the Big ten, which is what the Rose Bowl always was.

707
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: Quite yeah, and I wonder if they designed it that

708
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: way on purpose, to be honest.

709
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: With you, I you know, I thought about that, although

710
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: that would have been very tough. Obviously, putting Oregon in

711
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: that slot, you know, made it easy. But I think

712
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: the rest of the settings of the brackets and the

713
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: rankings of the teams, and then you know, in trying

714
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: to hope we're ensure that Ohio State was going to

715
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: beat Tennessee, which they did rather handly, would have been

716
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: a tough thing to do. That did cross my mind.

717
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: But getting back to the game. Josh Connelly, the left tackle,

718
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: I've exposed my espoused my love for him. I think

719
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: he's going to be a late first round pick, maybe

720
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: not as a tackle, but potentially as a zone blocking

721
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: guard and as Jeannie Cornelius, who began his college career

722
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: at Rhode Island, the big right tackle for Oregon, who

723
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: projects as a mid day three pick, probably in the

724
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: fifth or sixth round going against that Ohio State pass rush,

725
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: the j T two and may Low and the Jack

726
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: Soros who had just talked about, I mean, the Ohio

727
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: State guys have got to step it up because these

728
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: both of these Oregon offensive linemen are real, real good.

729
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: And then when you flip you gonna flipped that around.

730
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: Talked about how well the Ohio State the offensive line

731
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 2: played against Tennessee. Well, now it's next level against Jordan

732
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: Birch of Oregon, against Derek Harmon of Oregon, the big

733
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: for the explosive interior defensive tackle and Jammery Caldwell, a

734
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: potential late round pick who doesn't get a lot of mention.

735
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: I mean, there are gonna be battles whenever the teams

736
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: are on the field offensively, both teams. There's gonna be

737
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: great battles on both sides of the line of scrimmage.

738
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: And that's up front, Tony. And then we have great

739
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: battles between two of the better sets of wide receivers

740
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: in college football, with Oregon's wide receivers Evan Stewart, Tess

741
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: Johnson and Tree Shawn Holden against some good and highly

742
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: valued Ohio State defensive backs. And then you have the

743
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: Ohio State receivers. We already talked about will will test

744
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: the Oregon corners in safeties.

745
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: And remember, you know, obviously these teams know each of

746
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: them because they played early in the year. I believe

747
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: it was the fourth fifth game of the year on October.

748
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: Oregon won by a point. That is when Josh Simmons,

749
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: the left tackle for Ohio State went down with the

750
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: season ending knee injury. That was also a game where

751
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: Evan Stewart really did a good job, really had his

752
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: way against that Ohio State secondary. So you know, the

753
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 2: lapses that we didn't see and the ability to stop

754
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: and defend against the big playability that Tennessee posed that

755
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: the Ohio State defensive backs were able to stop on Saturday, Well,

756
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to multiply that by at least two

757
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: because these receivers are much more better, They're much more explosive,

758
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: they're more consistent, and they're they're productive on a weekend

759
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: and week got a basis. Evan Stewart, notwithstanding, we've talked

760
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: about his ups and downs, but this is going to

761
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: be a real battle and a real challenge for the

762
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State secondary. The Oregon secondary doesn't get a lot

763
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: of mention, but they're solid. Jabari Mohammed, a smaller guy

764
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: who transferred from Washington last year. You mentioned Cam Alexander

765
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: Taishim Johnson against what could be or what has shown

766
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: to be when they're on their game and the quarterback

767
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: is on the game. A very potent receiving duo out

768
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: of Ohio State.

769
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: All right, and then finally, who are some of the

770
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: guys on Oregon. You'll be keeping an eye on their offense?

771
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Ohio State defense. It doesn't stop just

772
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: with the receivers that you mentioned. I mean, they're gonna

773
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: have to have an answer for Dylan Gabriel, a guy

774
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: who really doesn't get much mentioned. I think it's underrated

775
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: in the scouting community. I like him as a Day

776
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: three pick. He's got a lot of Baker Mayfield in

777
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: his game if you watch him. An RPO quarterback who

778
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: can play from the pocket, who can get outside the

779
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: pocket and make plays with his arms, who can make

780
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: plays with his legs. He's smart, he protects the football.

781
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 2: He's always in command of the game. You know, when

782
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: you go back to that Big Ten title game, you

783
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: know when it was third and long and it looked

784
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: like Penn State was going to turn the tide of

785
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: the game. Dylan Gabriel had an answer, and Dylan Gabriel

786
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: has consistently had an answer for him. And if it's

787
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: not Dylan Gabriel, it's Jordan James. They're explosive running back.

788
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: Not the biggest guy in the world, but it's impossible

789
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: to attack.

790
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: He's gonnapack man. The more I watch him, Tony, he's

791
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: a good player.

792
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: He's got to burst through the hole. He makes defenders miss,

793
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: he picks up yardage off initial contact. He's good around

794
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: the corner. He's got great vision on the inside. So

795
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: that's gonna have to be somebody that they watch out for.

796
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: And then Terrence ferguson the tight end. Not really a

797
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: big play tight end athletically, but he's smart, he plays

798
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: within the system, good blocker, and we'll find the open

799
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: spot down the field and make big plays as a

800
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: pass catcher. So the Ohio State defense, it's got a

801
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: lot too. Uh, They're gonna be up against it a

802
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: lot because Oregon can hit you in a variety of ways,

803
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: which is why they're undefeated and they are the number

804
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: one team in the nation all right.

805
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: I think this is a coin flay game. They'll fall

806
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: close with me on this before I ask you a

807
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: question about holidays. So do you think we get one

808
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: upset in either Penn State going up against Boise, Texas

809
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: going up against Arizona State, well, Notre Dame going up

810
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: against Georgia. I haven't looked at the spreads in those games.

811
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what they are. I'm sure the teams

812
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: we expect to be favorites are fairly big favorites. Do

813
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: you think we'll get an upset in one of those

814
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: three games?

815
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 2: I doubt it. I mean, most of the nation's gonna

816
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: be rooting for Boise, A lot of people are gonna

817
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: be rooting for Arizona State. There are a lot of

818
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: people just root against not Your Dame because they don't

819
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 2: like Notre Dame. But I think Georgia, I think Penn State,

820
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: and I think Texas are going to win handily.

821
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we'll see Ohio State Oregon. That'll be

822
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: a big game, do they say, I think.

823
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: The Ohio State Orgon game. Will Howard has played well

824
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: against Tennessee. He's gonna have to play better against Oregon.

825
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: If Will Howard can protect the ball. If he can

826
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: hit the receivers accurately, then I think Ohio State has

827
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: got a chance to win.

828
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: So what are you got to ony? Are you hosting

829
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: Christmas or Christmas Eve? What are you doing?

830
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: Well? Being of Italian heritage from New York, Christmas Eve

831
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: is the big holiday in our house. If you're in

832
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: the air, we've got twenty people. In fact, that was

833
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: up but this morning at six forty five, I had

834
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: to run to the seafood place before anybody got there

835
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: to get the Jonas crab claws.

836
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: And how many fishes? Seven fishes?

837
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 2: Well, we call it seven fishes, but it's usually about

838
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: eight or nine. I now just call it one thousand

839
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: dollars dinner. More expense by the year, but yeah, it's

840
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: called seven fishes. We usually end up with about eight.

841
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: You know, people bring this, people bring that. But it's

842
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: a lot of funny here at the poly Eat Household

843
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, that's for sure.

844
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well we're hosting too, so my brother and my

845
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: sister with their families will be coming over. We do

846
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: we do some Swedish meatballs. We do some spicy turkey meatballs.

847
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: My sister brings like little Delly finger sandwiches, and my

848
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: brother usually brings like a big zd or Lasagnia and

849
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: we kind of just have, like I kinda hang out,

850
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: eat a little bit. We don't do like an official

851
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: sit down dinner. It's kind of grab as you go

852
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: and eat as the open presents and all that sort

853
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: of stuff. So it should be a fun night.

854
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: Well, well see we do both. Well, first the appetite

855
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: everybody comes from the appetizer's grabbing, you know, and then

856
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: we have to sit down dinner as you would expect

857
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: an Italian fashion.

858
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Do you have any do many little kids come into

859
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Speaker 1: your house and are mostly adults?

860
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: No, all the little kids are grown up. I mean, yeah,

861
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: we used to have a lot of little kids, but

862
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: they're all My daughter is the little list and she's

863
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: about twenty one. So now I guess we got to

864
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: wait for the next generation to have their little kids before.

865
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: And it was fun. I mean it was fun with

866
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: the little kids because there were enormous amounts of presents

867
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 2: and now everybody gets gift cards and tickets to Ranger

868
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: games and things like that.

869
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have my three nephews were now two of

870
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: them are in college, one's going and then we have

871
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: ones going in in a couple of years. He's a

872
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: junior in high school. I believe that's Andrew. And then

873
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: my two kids are the youngest. We were my seven

874
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: year old and my two year old. She's all every day,

875
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: week's first thing. She's like, how many days for Christmas? Dad?

876
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: How many years for Christmas dads? So she'll be spoiled.

877
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: My two year old last year year, last year with

878
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: my Yeah, that's exactly how what it should be. So

879
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: my my son who was one and a half last

880
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: year had zero interest in opening presents. You would give

881
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: it to him, me just put it down and walk away.

882
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: So literal, we were like a week after Christmas, we

883
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: couldn't get him to open this present. So we're just

884
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: gonna open it for him now, kid Like, like we

885
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: can't have these sitting year rap for like two weeks.

886
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to open him. So we're hoping that

887
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: he gets a little bit more into it this year

888
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: or two and a half and it's kind of like

889
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: more ready to go.

890
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: And then when you did open him, he played with

891
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: the boxes, not the toys inside of him. Right.

892
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Oh, No, last year on Christmas morning, we game all

893
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: these presents, didn't care. He was literally in the kitchen

894
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: playing with the pots and pans out of the cabinet

895
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: for an hour and a half. Like not even I

896
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: put a picture of my Instagram, like you can't make

897
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: it up.

898
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no you can't. Well it's it's and you're

899
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 2: not alone, I'm sure like a lot of the guy people.

900
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: Why the guys and girls watching the show. I mean,

901
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: I remember when my daughter was young wards the presence

902
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: for two and a half days, she played with the

903
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: chapstick that was in her rus Stockey, So I mean,

904
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: you know, it's the way it goes.

905
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: It is Tony, Merry Christmas, my friend, Happy Honig, Merry Christmas.

906
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: All you guys out there, Happy holidays if you if

907
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: you celebrate something else. Thanks for being with us, everybody.

908
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: Enjoy your holidays.

909
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: Again.

910
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: This will be airing on Thursday. Enjoy your NFL weekend,

911
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: Enjoy your college football playoffs, New Year's even New Year's

912
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: Day next Tuesday and Wednesday, and then again we'll be

913
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: back with draft season next Thursday. As you review around

914
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: two of the college Foball playoffs and also some of

915
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: the other bowl games as well. And then we only

916
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: have four games left after that, Tony, and the three

917
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: games left rather and we'll be ready to go for

918
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: the pre draft process, which will take us for a

919
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: couple of months. And then before you know, we're gonna blink,

920
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be April and we're gonna be in the

921
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: final stretch run.

922
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: You know, after that National Championship game, it's what apparently

923
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: a week later, and we're on our way to Frisco,

924
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: Texas for three days of practice for the Shrine Bowl.

925
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: And then after the third day of practice from the

926
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: Shrine Bawl, you get on a plane, you hop over

927
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: the mobile. It's three days of practice at the Senior Bowl,

928
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: which is always always a busy but fun trip.

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00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, can't wait. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Tony,

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00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: have fun, my friend. I appreciate it, and enjoy your holidays.

931
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: Sham with you and your family. John.

932
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Merry Christmas, Tony Murray, Christmas to everybody out there,

933
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: Happy Honkah and all that good stuff. Thanks for being

934
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: with us on draft season. Brought to you by Moody's.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Everybody