1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: de grab and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: episode of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like, 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: and I am super excited about this show. The previous 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: couple of shows that we've had, we've talked about the 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: pursuit of excellence and the mastery of one one's craft 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: and the lifelong achievement of a person dedicated to a 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: certain things. So, um, we're gonna discover more of that 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: in today's episode. So the pursuit of excellence, the pursuit 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: of excellence, I love that, and honoring and mastering one's craft. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: And we have a real distinguished guest. Somebody that can 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: speak to this may be better than anybody else because 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: of their history. And I love saying this. I very 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: rarely rarely say it, but we have a living legend 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: on us. I say it, I only ever say it. 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: I very reserved with my words with that. I think 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: legend is a term thrown around too often, but in 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: this case it's very true. He is the most recognized 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: male figure skater star in the world. He's won over 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: seventy titles, awards, honors, you name it. He's inducted into 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: the United States Olympic Hall of Fame, and he is 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: a member of the World Figure Skating Hall of Fame, 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: and he is an Olympic Gold medalist. Welcome to Mr Scott. Hell, Wow, 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: that was all so long ago. You know, it's just like, yeah, 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: it's still part of you. It's still so much a 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: part of you, and and all of that is still 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: I believe that was only the first part of your life. 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: That was the athletic part of your life. Your bio 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: is school long Scott. I want to tell you it's 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: awful because I'm old. No, it's not so much. Your 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: athletic accomplishments were so incredible. But what's what's amazing about 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: your story? And I followed your story for many many 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: years since I've known life existence, God, I followed your story. Um, 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: what's more incredible to me is actually your your resilience 35 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: and the things that you've overcome in your personal life, 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 1: the challenges that you've overcome in your life. Um, which 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure your your resilience that you developed through sport 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: has helped you. Yeah, I mean on what you know. 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: It's it's like everything in sports is based on failure. Basically, 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: because when when you do anything, you know you're you're 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: probably not gonna be very good at it. Right. So 42 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: the idea is you're you're living with this like mountain 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: of failure, and you slowly start chipping away at it. 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: You know, so the same mistakes you made before, you're 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: you're really gonna try to eliminate those, you don't make 46 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: them again, right, And it's a learning process, you know. 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Big part of skating is you fall down to get up. 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: You know. So I wrote a book called Finish First 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: a few years ago, and it's basically, you know, I've 50 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: fallen minimum, we figured six hundred times. Right. So the 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: thing is is when you fall down forty one thousand, 52 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: six hundred times, you get up forty one six hundred times. 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: So the idea is it's like you once you get up, 54 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: then then the failure takes out a different identity because 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: you just you know, you're just gonna get up. You know, 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: it's just okay, that didn't work, Gonna get up pretty soon. 57 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: That jump that you fell on a thousand times, like 58 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: you've gotten it to a point where you don't miss 59 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: it anymore. You know, it's like my you know, nationals 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: like first Nationals and the Novice Man's as a little 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: boys level. It was Janet Lynn's last competition US you know, 62 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: scating competition, and there was standing room only seventeen thousand, 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: five hundred people in that building, and they had a 64 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: little boys event as the event proceeding her company, so 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: there was it was sold out standing r moment and 66 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: I fell five times and I felt five times in 67 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: the performance, which is a three minute performance, and um, like, 68 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: how do you how do you have time to fall 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: down five times in three minutes? It's like, you know, 70 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: it's like that's how big a failure that was. So 71 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the next year and I came in dead last obviously, 72 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: And next year I came back to Nationals, I only 73 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: felt twice and I still came in nine. But there's 74 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: ten guys there, so I beat one guy. And then 75 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: the next year I go up to juniors and um, 76 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: you know a little bit better just based on experience, 77 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: and I beat two guys. I'm going fire right, So 78 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like, you know, the whole idea 79 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: of of of anything is the more you do it, 80 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: and the more you do it with intention, it's like 81 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: it's not just enough to show up. Showing up is great, 82 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: and showing up is a big part of the equation, 83 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: but you gotta show up with the attention that you're 84 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: gonna be humble and hungry in the pursuit and you're 85 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: gonna get better. Right, You're you're gonna find Okay, I 86 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: did that, I keep doing that. I'm gonna figure out 87 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: a way not to do that anymore. It was funny 88 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: when when I talked about, you know, all those years 89 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: I competed on the senior level and I was on television, 90 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: Dick Button would always find something to say that wasn't complimentary. 91 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: That's what I said. He would criticize me harshly, as 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I figured, well, I'm not gonna let him say that again. 93 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: So I'd work on it. And it would be one 94 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: of those things where I'd work on it, and i'd 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: work on it, and i'd work on it, and so 96 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: the next year you would criticize something else, and I go, Okay, 97 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: you couldn't say that one thing again, So now I'm 98 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: gonna work on that. So you start chipping away and 99 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 1: stuff like. Even to this day, I tell my kids 100 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: it's based out of that story. Is like the greatest 101 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: strength is what, and I'll go here we go again. 102 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: A lack of weakness, I go, right. So the greatest 103 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: strength is a lack of weakness. Right, So you chip 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: away at all those things that prevent you from being successful, 105 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: and then pretty soon you know you're pretty substantial. Right. 106 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: So I had to fail amountain of times, you know, 107 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: and I had, I just and a lot of it 108 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: was out of preparation. I just wasn't prepared and I 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: didn't train in a a that when I stepped on 110 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: the ice, I knew I was ready. I had way 111 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: too many And this is my thought going into the 112 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: eighty four Olympics, was when I stepped on the ice, 113 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: I don't want to would have, could have or should 114 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: have to be in my mind, I want to know 115 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: that I've done every single thing I can to be 116 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: prepared for this moment, and I'm gonna take whatever I get. 117 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: And in a way, you know, it stops you from 118 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: doing this right and it allows you to kind of 119 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: like do that. And you know, if you could approach 120 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: life with an open hand and not a clenched fist, 121 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be okay, you know. But a lot 122 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: of that is just preparation. And and and and working 123 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: out your failures. And you know, people go out, Failure 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: is is awful, Failure is painful. Failure is embarrassing. I go, Really, 125 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: if you're in professional baseball and you only failed two 126 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: out of three times, you're in the Hall of Fame, right, 127 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: Come on. Failure is information only. Failure is feedback. And 128 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: if if we're gonna look at failure as something to avoid, 129 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: then we missed the point. You know, we want to 130 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: we want to fail. We want to put ourselves in 131 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: positions to fail so we can get stronger. And that's 132 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: the only way we're going to get stronger. Yeah. I 133 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: remember hearing to quote about successful people. It said successful 134 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: people or winners are winners because they fail more often, 135 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: because they lose more often. And what that's saying is 136 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: that successful people they set their sights and their standards 137 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: so high. They chased this lofty, audacious goals that that 138 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: it's going to require them. Those standards are so high 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: what they're chasing that they are going to lose. Like 140 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: you said, your first year you finished dead. Last second 141 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: year you finished ninth, third year you finished eight. But 142 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: then you built up to become an Olympic champion in 143 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Sarevo four. Well, crazy thing is is, you know, the 144 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: first year I committed to nationals, they had a big 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: celebration right um, and for the guy who won the 146 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: US men's national championship and invite everybody come. I actually 147 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: skated with him. So he's kind of like, I hear 148 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: a role model and everything else. So I'm sitting there 149 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: with another kid my age, and he goes, look there's 150 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: a big trait through of beers right there. Go grab 151 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: me a beer. And it's like we're fourteen years old. 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: It's like, no, grab your own beer. And he goes, 153 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I have something to lose, you don't. 154 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: And you know what, I've never forgotten that, and I 155 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: always thought it was that, really if I put myself 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: in a position where that's what people think of me, 157 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: and so you know, fast forward, you know, from that moment, 158 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: let's go forward seven years right, seven years later, um, 159 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: seven and a half years later, because now it's October 160 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: of night. Was the first competition I won where I 161 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: would never lose again for four years, and it's like 162 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: I look back on that, it's like, really, I must 163 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: have gotten really luck you a bunch of times because 164 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: it's like impossible, And then it really was. It just 165 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: came down to, you know, building that those muscles not 166 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: only in your body but in your in your heart 167 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: and your mind, that when you step on the ice, 168 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: you're able to deliver the goods consistently while still being 169 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: humble and hungry and and going after just keep looking 170 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: that way, you know, just take that rear view mirror, 171 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: throw it off, you know, through rip it off the 172 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: wind chill and throwing the back of the seat. And 173 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: you still you know, you're going that way. You're not 174 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: going back there, and you're not gonna like, I'm not 175 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna protect this. I'm not protecting I'm just going that way, 176 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: you know. And you off here, man, you got fired 177 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: off now. But it's like how many guys win a 178 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: marathon by looking back? You know, you to lose speed, 179 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: just slow down. It's like, no, we're going that way. 180 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: I love that you touched on failure at the beginning 181 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: of this because it allows our audience to hear that, 182 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: to hear that Olympic champion A the most cell it 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: a skater and mail figure skating is talks about failure 184 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: in the massive amounts of failure that he experienced. I think, 185 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: I think it's so important. I think Michael Jordan missed 186 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: over nine thousand shots in his career. I think is 187 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: the stat like nine thousand times he shot and missed. 188 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: But like you said, continued forward, he wanted the ball 189 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: to shoot the next one, just the belief in the 190 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: next one. Um. And then I also love what you 191 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: said about how when you stepped on the ice and 192 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: four that it was just like, okay, let's go have 193 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: some fun. Because you had, you had none of the 194 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: shot could have Because you have, it wasn't really fun. 195 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: It's like the Olympics, you know, it's like stressful. I'm 196 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: like duding this, I'm sweating right through my outfit and 197 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: it's like this is this is like this is my 198 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: this is my only chance right now. But again the 199 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: main thought was no, would have snow kudos should have 200 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: Like I did everything I could have prepared for that moment. 201 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: It's still like you still gotta do your job. I 202 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: didn't skate as well as I trained, you know, I 203 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: go lean at that moment. I think I did like 204 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: sixty five or sixty four's clean run throughs going up 205 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: to that moment. You know, every day so I was 206 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: really prepared and I was like locked in muscle memory. 207 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: Everything was great. It's still one event, only one medal, 208 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: and if you don't do it, you gotta wait four years. 209 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: It's not like in swimming or track and field, where 210 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, I was a little off today, 211 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: but I got eight more races. It's now one. That's it. 212 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: So that's where in hockey we would talking about it. 213 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: Competition is literally just the expression of our practice, you know, 214 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: the pursuit of excellence. It's the expression of your practice, 215 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: the mastering of your craft. And it's then less about 216 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: it's it takes some of the stress off for me. 217 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Because that's why losses were so Losses used to be 218 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: in the NHL. Losses used to be like life or death, 219 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: and now it's in information. Now, okay, thanks for this. 220 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: This loss was really helpful because it showed us that 221 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: we can't break out of our defensive zone as effectively 222 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: as we want to. So that information, right, Losses changed 223 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: from going to somebody's heart to being like, okay, this 224 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: is information. Like you said, with a commentator, he would 225 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: pick apart something of you. You're like, okay, i'll make 226 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: that better. Now we can't talk about that. Um. I 227 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: also want to tell you that I watched you skate 228 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: probably thousands of times. My sister, uh, figure skated, My 229 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: mom figure skated, and my mom told me, she said, Brooks, 230 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: if you want to be a hockey player, you're gonna 231 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: learn to skate properly figure skate before you play hockey. 232 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: And so I figure skated, right, So just for everybody listening, 233 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: figure skaters are where hockey players go to learn to skate. Yeah, 234 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: we haven't learned to skate with the predators, right, And 235 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: so many parents put, well, I want my kid to 236 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: play hockey, so I'm to put up with hockey skates. 237 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you really want to learn in 238 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: figure skates because let's get you move and let's get 239 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: you coordinateds get all those little muscles fired up, and 240 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: then when you need to go over to hockey skates, 241 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: it'll be like an afternoon. You know, you transitioned like 242 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: an hour, and you know it still takes some practice 243 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: to do it. But it's like, if you learn our 244 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: figure skates, they're flatter, there's a toe pick where you 245 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: can get yourself moving, and and they're just they're just 246 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: a little bit like the radius, and hockey skates are 247 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: like this year and very little bit of the blade 248 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: and it's harder to balance right, and so you know, 249 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: the parents are like when no, no no, we really want 250 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: to stay with hockey skates. It's like, okay, it's like 251 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna be our customer a lot longer. So you know, 252 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: it's that it's like and we we try to you know, 253 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: it's like the NHL and when we use their UM 254 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: League Development Fund to build our ghost Skate program where 255 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: we scholarship, you know, young people under twelve years old 256 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: into our learning skate. At the end of the what 257 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: we buy them skates so that they can you know, 258 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: it's stickier, it's all that. And it's like, well, now 259 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: I have skates, I know, not a skate. I want 260 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: to be, you know, part of this. So we thought 261 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: that was a really good way to go. And then um, 262 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: the manager of the Ford Eye Centers, which are the 263 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: predator ranks, it comes up to me. He goes, can 264 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: you give me five reasons why, Um, we need to 265 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: buy figure skates for our skaters, and I'll give you 266 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: and he goes fives enough, and it was it was 267 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: like this you know, the ice sports or ice sports 268 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: and the rink is a community, and we want to 269 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: all be a part of this. However, we want to 270 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: be a part of it. And you know, again I 271 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: live with an open hand and not a clinched fist. 272 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, I really am a peacemaker and I try 273 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: to allow a good environment for people to work in. 274 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: And and it's like it's that, It's like, no, we 275 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: want to meet people where they are now, where we 276 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: necessarily want to force them into a situation here and 277 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: and some the best hockey professional hockey players started off 278 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: in figure skates. You can see it. I can see 279 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: it instantly when I see an NHL player, because I 280 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: can see the way their hips open up and the 281 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: way they pivot and their edge work there especially every 282 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: any every NHL player is good on their inside edges, 283 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: but the figure skater, the the NHL player that has 284 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: figure skater is good on the exceptional on the outside 285 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: edge word to backward transition. The way they can open 286 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: their hips and pivot is world class. And you just 287 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: see that when I watch figure skaters. It is so graceful, 288 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: the amount of speed and power you guys can generate 289 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: with your edge work. And carry right, carry. We got 290 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: to carry the speed and a lot of people appreciate 291 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: that efferently carry that. It's silent. It's so great when 292 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: you when you see a good skater, whether their speed 293 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: or figure or hockey, and you can't hear the edge, 294 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, that's like heaven. It's like it's 295 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: so pure, it's so good. And that's like Billy Kids 296 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: said that about skiing. He goes, he goes, um, how 297 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: do you know they're a good skier? And he goes, 298 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: You close your eyes? What you close your eyes? And 299 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: how do you know if they're good? Scared? You close 300 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: your eyes because as you listen and you can hear 301 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: them carving into the snow, and you know, the quieter 302 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: you can hear, it's like a it's like and it's 303 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: just pure. And you know. There's a skater from Japan. 304 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: She was actually world champion nineteen eight and ninety four 305 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: and her name is Yukasado and her edge quality is spectacular. 306 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: Janet Lynn. When she skater, her edge quality was the 307 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: best in the world. And it just comes down to 308 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: it's just you know, you use less effort because you're 309 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: able to carry the speed you're not constantly grinding and working. 310 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: And we have a coach here at Nashville. It moved 311 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: here from New York and actually a skater with her. 312 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: When she was eight years old, she was a figure 313 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: skater that was an alter to the world team. At 314 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: age five oh fifty, she tried to make the US 315 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: Olympic speed skating team. And now her business is teaching 316 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: hockey skaters how to eskate, and that again that outside 317 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: edge and really loading up and being in the right 318 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: place and having your hips in the right place. She 319 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: is so tough and so on it that a lot 320 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: of the a lot of the kids go she scares me, 321 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: and it's like good, you know, it's good because you're 322 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: in a tough sport. You getting there, and so it's 323 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: really fun to kind of see that. You know that 324 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: you expressed that. And even like Terry Cris who's the 325 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: voice of the Predators, you know in the pre game 326 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: and postgame shows. You know, he said the biggest day 327 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: was when they're in Calgary and a figure skaters, a 328 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: woman showed up to teach about eskate and they're like, 329 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: all right, it shows tell you what I'll race you backwards. Yeah, 330 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: all right, but who's your fastest guy. I'll race some 331 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: backwards and if they beat me, I'll walk out. But 332 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: if they don't, you have to listen to every word 333 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: that I say. And and you know he said, you know, 334 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: she beat him by like blue line of blue line distance. Right, 335 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: it was like that, And then okay, I guess we 336 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: have a lot to learn here, you know. So it's 337 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: like we can all learn from each other, and we 338 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: can grow from each other, and we congest. I mean, 339 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: this world is so broad and so complex and so 340 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: rich in the experience that it's really fun to be 341 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: able to share these ideas and to be able to 342 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: learn from each other. It's a beautiful, beautiful art friend, 343 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: Like it is just I watched so many hours of 344 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: figure skating, um, and I want to pay you a 345 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: compliment because I watched you from the time I was 346 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: a kid. If hockey wasn't on, figure skating was on it, 347 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: that's great, that was fun. My target audience was men, 348 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: and yeah, I love it, Like no, it was because 349 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: you've got all these women in the audience and they're like, 350 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: oh yeah wait, and then these men and they're sitting 351 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: there going so yeah, so can I tell you what um, 352 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: what was really interesting and what I what's been awesome 353 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: to have you on the show is and here your 354 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: version of your career, in your pursuit of excellence, in 355 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: the amount of failure and the amount of resilience that 356 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: you've shown is I remember watching you when I was younger, 357 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: and I remember my mom and dad having conversations about you, 358 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: and and the word grit and resilience continued to come up. 359 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: And they always said, you could never bet against Scott 360 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Hamilton's you could never bet against him. And so watching you, 361 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: you could see this. It's it's refreshing for me to 362 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: hear you speak about resilience and and failure and how 363 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: you overcame that and continued to pursue excellence, because that's 364 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: what I witnessed, That's what I witnessed in watching you skate, 365 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: and energetically witnessed that, and it was it's for myself. 366 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: When I played hockey, the scariest guys to play against 367 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: weren't the most talented, weren't the guys with the best 368 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: world class skills. They were the guys that I knew 369 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: would never quit. Yeah, those were the scariest. Well, I mean, 370 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: that's that's the head game of sports, right, And you 371 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: know when I was skating, especially towards the end, I 372 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: made sure that they never saw me miss a jump ever, 373 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: and in that they had to go, oh man, now, ah, 374 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: he's never gonna miss, so I can't miss. So instead 375 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: of instead of it going like I'm going this way, 376 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: and they're kind of like now stuck in their own space, 377 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: going all right, I under a lot of pressure. Now 378 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: I can't miss a jomp. I gotta do this right 379 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: because they're never gonna miss. And and it's that game 380 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: that games meanship that comes in and it's like, yeah, 381 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm here, I'm prepared, and you know, I'm 382 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: never gonna quit and I'm gonna be on it and 383 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to worry about yourself. It's like 384 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: it really destroys people. You had an immense presence because 385 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: of that that that was five ft nothing right, thank you, 386 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: that's your presence was giant. Your presence was giant, Scott 387 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: because of that, Like there there was like there's a 388 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: tremendous amount because what that is ultimately, that's a that's 389 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: a massive form of respect if something like people because 390 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: like it transferred through the television screen watching this that 391 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: like kind of the whole group was watching, Like, what's 392 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: Scott gonna do? That's kind of the dude watched the 393 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: trust I sat and watched these petitions. My mom and 394 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: my sister, my dad would watch them like they were 395 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: on in our household all the time. So just from 396 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: one athlete to another, I just admire the way you 397 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: show up and and I think I know you now 398 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: on this podcast. I admire your approach to the sport, 399 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: which obviously has has led to fantastic success in Olympic 400 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: bold metal within it, but then more so I believe 401 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: has led to triumph in your personal life, overcoming multiple 402 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: um I don't even know what the word. I not traumas, 403 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: but like no, it's it's yeah, it's you know, you 404 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: get knocked down, you get up, you know, and it's like, 405 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, I joke that I have a unique hobby 406 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: of collecting life threatening illness, right, So it's that, and 407 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, you you deal with whatever is in front 408 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: of you, and and you you you just make the 409 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: best of every situation and you have to, you know, 410 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: learn and grow and and but at the same time, 411 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: you know, and I want to go back to that 412 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: whole kind of um, humble and hungry thing. Right. It's 413 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: like I've seen way too many athletes get to a 414 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: point where they feel like it's a destination. You know, 415 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: it's like, well I just wont whatever. You know, it's 416 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: like for a lot for a lot of years with 417 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the kids at one and I was 418 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: last in the novice level, right, So a lot of 419 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: the kids that won, you know, there were really good skaters, 420 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: they're very talented, but it was almost like that when 421 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: created expectation, which created pressure, which created you know, kind 422 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: of like this protectionism. It's like, well I'm good enough now, 423 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: so I have to kind of stay there. I'm not 424 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not criticizing them at all. It was 425 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: like there were products in their environment. And for me, 426 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: the whole coming in last thing was the greatest thing 427 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: that could have happened, because you're still you're still looking forward. 428 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: So it's humbling yourself to know that you know, there's 429 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: always there's always better, there's always more, there's always some 430 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: chicken your armor that you need to either polish or 431 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: shore up. And and you know you've got to be hungry, 432 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: and it's just like ambition, and you want to be 433 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: better than you were last year, and better than you were, 434 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: you know in your next year, gonna better than you 435 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: are this year. And it's always kind of like that, 436 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: that moving forward thing. And yeah, of course you're gonna 437 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: be aware of your surroundings, but you know it's you 438 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: can't settle, and you can't, um, you can't put yourself 439 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: in a position where now other skaters are going to 440 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: catch up. And you know it's a nature of the beast. 441 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: Because I got older, Um, you know, I was there 442 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: for a long time. Figure skating is based in opinion 443 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: in many respects that it was purely and you know, 444 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: flavor of the week is really tempting, you know, so 445 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: you've got to stay ahead of people. And when I 446 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: turned pro, there was really nothing for a skater like me, 447 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: so I had to kind of invent it, you know, 448 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: And I was lucky that, you know, the first two 449 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: years I was pro, I was in the Ice Capade, 450 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: so I learned a lot about production. I learned about, 451 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, just how all the show things work. And 452 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: when they went through a sale and the new owner 453 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: didn't want men, I was given an opportunity because I 454 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: proved myself in that for him to be able to 455 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: start the Stars an Ice tour, and you know it 456 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: was I understood the opportunity. I understood how fragile those 457 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: opportunities were. So I just kept doing at It's like, 458 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: I gotta be I gotta be on it. I gotta 459 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: be um, I gotta keep my skills up. I gotta 460 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: be aware of marketing. I gotta be aware of uh, 461 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, just perception. I gotta be aware of you 462 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: know that I'm here now, but I've got to learn 463 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: so many more things if I want to stick around. 464 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: And and it's funny because my role models weren't skaters, 465 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: real role models. I'm a big music guy. Okay. So 466 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: I love Neil Diamond because if you've ever seen him 467 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: on stage, man, he just loves loves loves, you know, 468 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: just his love of his craft. He's having the best 469 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: time on that stage as the audience is mirroring kind 470 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: of that whole joy that he's gotten. I go, okay, 471 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn from that. My other hero is Bruce Springsteen. 472 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: Bruce springstel blue collar guy, built an audience the old 473 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: fashioned way. He just oh, you're just delivered delivered, deliver 474 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: the goods everything the time. And then the third was 475 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: you know Um the lead singer for Led Zeppelin's guy 476 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: Robert Plant and as a solo artist, he was so 477 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: creative and he was so like worth. He was ready 478 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: to take every risk chance that he possibly could to 479 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: keep moving forward, right, and and being a little different, 480 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: a little and a difference the key. It's not so 481 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: much yeah, you want to be better than next year, 482 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: but when you're an entertainer, you've got to be different. Otherwise, 483 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: if you're writing the same song all the time, then 484 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: people go, Okay, seen it. You know it's been there, 485 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: done that. But it also allows you to kind of 486 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: get deeper, stronger and more versatile and your ability to 487 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: kind of like create longevity and the key destination is great, 488 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: but journey longevity is is really a key that any 489 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: amount of success you want to have. Yeah, And I 490 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: think I was having this conversation and the other day 491 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: with a friend of mine. We were talking about um 492 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: different kinds of greatness. And there is individual greatness. There 493 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: is like winning winning the Olympics in eighty four that 494 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: is singular individual greatness, and then there's also longevity greatness 495 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: of being one of the nest in the world for 496 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: fifteen years where your name is always mentioned as the 497 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: possible victor of this competition. So there's it's like a band. 498 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: A band can have a one hit wonder boom and greatness. 499 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: Let's not let's not discount that. That is greatness too. 500 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: But then the band that sticks around for like the 501 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Rolling Stones five decades or what like those bands like 502 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: that longevity greatness. It's a testament to what you're talking about, Scott, 503 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: about the journey, the constant pursuit, right, the pursuit of excellence. 504 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: But then also um innovating, innovating in your arena, in 505 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: your sport, in your industry, whatever it is. And in 506 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: the term that I always like to say, parents ask 507 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: me about hockey, like what should my kid do? And 508 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: the thing I always say to them, don't tell your 509 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: kid he has to be the best right now. Um. 510 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: The biggest thing for me, I think in my professional 511 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: life was I felt I was the best at getting better. Yeah, 512 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: and that's what I hear you speak about it like 513 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: continually getting better and you never arrive. But if if 514 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: it's not about the destination, then it's a constant pursuit 515 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: of excellence. It's constant mastery of the craft and honoring 516 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: of the craft, versus saying I want to have this 517 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: to hold in my hand and then I'm done. Yeah, 518 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: And you know, and greatness too, you know, and you 519 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: Dick Button said it really well. He said, you can 520 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: only measure greatness, um, and like, let's say, in any 521 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: sport by the fact that because of that person's participation, 522 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: they left the sport better than it was before, right, 523 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: And I think about that, and it's really amazing to 524 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: think about. And when he said that to me, I go, 525 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: I want that. I want to be that guy. I 526 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: want to be that guy that is like you know, 527 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: and again I had nothing, you know, I was a 528 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: big old honking loser when I you know, I competed 529 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: at younger levels. But it turned into I want to 530 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 1: be that guy. I want to and I want to. 531 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: I want to keep being that guy and I want 532 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: to and until, you know, after a while, honestly, just 533 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: run out of gas, you know, And I did. After 534 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: my first son was born. I just sort of said, okay, 535 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: enough of this, all right, it's time for me to 536 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: move on. And I want to be a great father. 537 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: I want to be a great husband. I want to 538 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: I want to be involved. I want to, you know, 539 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: take this blessing, this incredible blessing, and and do it 540 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: as well as I possibly can, you know. And so 541 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's the next there's always gonna be the 542 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: especially in sports, right and then you just take your 543 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: experience and you try to put it into the next 544 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: thing and the next thing and the next thing. And 545 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: I've been really lucky that has had, you know, and 546 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: some of them has come out of unfortunate circumstances. But 547 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: the fact that I work in cancer is because I 548 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: lost my mom to cancer and I survived cancer. So 549 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: I had to have it in order to truly understand 550 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: how to serve that community. And you know what, you 551 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: meeting scientists, and I'm the dumbest guy to ever give 552 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: to Ted talks like ever, and so I look at 553 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: that and it's like, Okay, now I have the ability 554 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: to reach people, and I have you know, I have 555 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: the ability to use that for good. You know. I 556 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: I meet so many I've seen so many um whatever 557 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: whatever they are, you know, uh, actors, entertainers, um, musicians, athletes, 558 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: politicians who kind of use their their pulpit and they 559 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: use it in negative ways, and it's like, dude, that 560 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: is so short lived. You know that is that is 561 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: not gonna that doesn't that you're you're you know, you're 562 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: you're sort of like if you remember you're remembered as 563 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: a train wreck, you know, you're not remembered as something 564 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: that brought good into the world and brought you know, 565 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: try to make the place maybe better than it was before, 566 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: you know. And and and that's always in there. It's like, 567 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: how can I do this life thing and and really 568 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: try to take everything I've been given and use it 569 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: to help other people. Um, and I love what you've 570 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: done with that. I mean, like the characteristics that you 571 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: carry from sport, your resilience, your grit, your willingness to 572 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: continue to learn, to innovate, to try new things has 573 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: immensely benefited you on the other side of sport in 574 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: becoming an analyst, a commentator and becoming a producer and 575 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: becoming a best selling author. Um, what you do, the 576 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: work you do with the Scott Hamilton's Cares Foundation, just 577 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: the the mindset to bring this to fruition, to even 578 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: have the concept and then bring it to fruition. Can 579 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: you tell our audience a little bit about that, because 580 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: that foundation is the work you do there is that 581 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: is legacy work. Well hopefully we're you know, we're really 582 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: it's it's again, it's just doing this and you know what, 583 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: and you know, with with anything I do with cares UM, 584 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, I really it means a lot for me 585 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: to share with people that I I am the ultimate volunteer. 586 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't cares is it's um. You know, my executive director, 587 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: Carry Morgan, she always talks about founder syndrome and it's like, 588 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: we got founder syndrome again. It's like, well we can 589 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, let me leverage whatever I can in order 590 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: to make your job a little bit easier. And you know, 591 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: she talks about, you know, the whole founder thing. Because 592 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm a volunteer. I won't take a penny for any 593 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: of the work I do with cares ever. I just 594 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: I never have and I never will. And we've raised 595 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: we've raised a lot of money over the years and 596 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: the sixteen years we've been around, we've probably raised about 597 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: forty million dollars, you know, and and and that's hard 598 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: to do. But it's like you look at it and 599 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: you go, well, how's it working? Wasn't doing and I 600 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: wasn't and we okay, we're helping people. And now we've 601 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: really focused in for the last six years to truly 602 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: just elevate and you know, therapy and super precision targeted 603 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: therapies to just let's just treat the cancertainly the rest 604 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: of the body alone. This collateral damage thing, it's it's 605 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: so over and it's it's so shortsighted. You know, we 606 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: just need to keep doing those things. So I work 607 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: as a volunteer UM. You know, I I may have 608 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: some authority, whatever I'm learning all the time, but again 609 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: it's part of that whatever we need to do in 610 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: order to make it better for the next patient. And 611 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: we've always done that through chemo Care dot com um 612 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: website that teaches people about chemotherapy, to the Fourth Angel 613 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: Mentoring program, which pairs newly diagnosed patients with survivors, to 614 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: the I don't even I've lost count of how many 615 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: research um UH programs we've funded over the years, and 616 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: and you know, it's just it's just whatever her I 617 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: can do to bring more people into the fold. And 618 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: and you know, again it's just their size and numbers, 619 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, Danny Thomas said, I'd rather have a million 620 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: people give me one dollar than one person give me 621 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 1: a million dollars. And and honestly, I'm kind of good 622 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: both ways. You know, I don't really care. You know, however, 623 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: we can get the job done, right. So it's that 624 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: it's like, how do we do the work? How do 625 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: we do the work? Yeah? I love what you're doing there. 626 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: That's that's legacy work, that is that is lasting. And 627 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: for you probably you're equally as proud of that as 628 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you can answer this, but as you're a 629 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: limpical mental in your success, well thank you. I I 630 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: just thought if I can find a proven treatment for 631 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: my mother's cancer that that destroyed her, then I'll know 632 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: I was born, you know. It's that type of thing. 633 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: It's it's you know, I was adopted at six weeks 634 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: of age. It's lucky to be here, period. I'm sure 635 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: my birth mother had other options. And so I look 636 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: at you know, how do I how do I do this? 637 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: And and what's the best way to engage and and 638 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: and and help the community, you know, and the communities 639 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: like the world, and so you know a lot of 640 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, what I'm working on now is purely that. 641 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the Live your Days platform. Yeah, 642 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: get into that. Yeah, it's it. You know. It came 643 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: out of my third brain tumor diagnosis, and it was 644 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like um our bodies 645 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: are incredibly fragile but phenomenally resilient. Okay, you just said 646 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: something I want to I don't want to see your 647 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: third brain tumor diagnosis right here? How like for you 648 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: you said, it's so casually and easily like one like 649 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: for our for our listeners, like hearing that one, Like 650 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: if I hear that about myself, Like I couldn't imagine 651 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: what I would go through? Like what do you go through? 652 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: How do you persist through? Three of those? Well? The 653 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: first one was really scary and ignited my faith. Um, 654 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: I love love, love, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, 655 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: love love, love. I couldn't love more. Um. Second one 656 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: was like I kicked in the gut that one, And 657 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: it was a surgical situation. The first one was radiation, 658 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: second one was surgery. Surgery didn't go as well as 659 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: it should have could have, so I ended up having 660 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: nine more after that and aneurism and obliterating an aneurism 661 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. It was kind of a tough summer. 662 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: And then when I came back again, Um, this time, 663 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm getting all the doctors talking to me about treatment options, 664 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: and all I can hear in the back of my 665 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: mind was like, get strong, and I get strong? Why 666 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Get strong? And I'm talking, I'm 667 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: having this conversation in my own mind. It's like physically 668 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: or mentally, or emotionally or virtually, you know, it's all 669 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: the above. And so you know, I've watched the tumor 670 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: grow and shrink and shrink and grow and shrink and 671 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: grow and grow and shrink and and um, so it's 672 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: just been for the last four years, I've just been 673 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: vigilant and just sort of living my life, trying to 674 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: get healthy and trying to get strong and and and 675 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: it was just the only choice I could make at 676 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: the time, because you know, surgery is problematic, you know, 677 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: since I've already had the surgery, so they have to 678 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: dismantle everything in there and kind of and I don't. 679 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, it's not like I'm denying that 680 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: when I when I become symptomatic, you know, they found 681 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: it on on a on a schedule of m R I. 682 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: So it's there and it's doing this, you know, and 683 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: as long as it's doing that, especially that, then we'll 684 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: be good. So it's it's like, you know, it's like 685 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: we live, right, we just you know, And it's and 686 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: and it's a reminder, you know, going back to the 687 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: whole thing. It's like, I'm every day trying to get stronger, 688 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: trying to get better, trying to get a little deeper, 689 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: little richer in the experience. And is a way of 690 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, pushing this thing back. And when the time 691 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: comes when I have to pull the trigger on treatment, 692 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, right, I mean, is I'm strong 693 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: and I'm sixty two years old, I'm healthy and I 694 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: can endure it, right, So you know, um, you know, 695 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: but I'm reminded we're fragile, we're very resilient, and we're temporary. 696 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: So knowing that that, like the Kickers were temporary, nobody 697 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: gets out of this thing alive. So knowing that our 698 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: days are numbered, how do we live? How are we 699 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: going to choose to use our days? And So when 700 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: I was had that third brain to where I did 701 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: an interview with People magazine. People dot com and I 702 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: basically let it out. I go, look, you know, it's 703 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: like these there are just things that happened, and you know, 704 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: I choose I want to live my days, and and 705 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: it caught the year of a marketing company here in Nashville, 706 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: and they go live your days. It's like like, it's 707 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: my the woman that runs at Shannon Lynton, it's her 708 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of like mantra day to day mantra. It's like 709 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: live by I'm gonna live your days today, and all 710 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: the time it's in there. And so we she brought up, 711 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: you know, right after that interview went viral and what 712 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: was supposed to be about ten thousand people, you know, 713 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: being shared, you know whatever, that interview it is a 714 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: normal interview. It was seen over thirty five million times. 715 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: So she knew something was in there. But I go, 716 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: let's just tap the brakes here because it's not the 717 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: right time. And then COVID kicked in and she called 718 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: me and she goes now, and I go now, So 719 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: let's let's let's remind people that our days are precious 720 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: and the opportunities are limitless, and what we can do 721 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 1: with this life is a choice, no matter what our 722 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 1: condition and what no matter what we're up against, it's 723 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: like a breath is a breath, a day is a day, 724 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: a minute, a minute, and we can use those and 725 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: and not only for ourselves, but for our loved ones 726 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: and for for everyone else involved. So, you know, the 727 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: Liver Your Days platform and it started off to be 728 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: sort of encouragement digital encouragement platform and become a podcast 729 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: with that eight podcasts and phenomenal gas Robin Roberts will 730 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: be on next week and um, I my goodness, Kevin 731 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: Neil and Bart Millard, Christian mcgucci and all of them 732 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: have a story to tell of how they've built their lives, 733 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, as a way of just sort of a 734 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: guide to inspire people and help them make those choices 735 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: to live their lives better, joyfully, productively, abundantly. Yeah. I 736 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: love that. One of your missions with Live your Days, 737 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: with the entire platform and the podcast is a call 738 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: to being present, really is what it is. I mean, 739 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: come on, how many times have you been so consumed 740 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: in your own thoughts that something happened right in front 741 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: of you and you missed it? You know it's like, 742 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: oh man, I can't do to replay? Yeah? Yeah, really 743 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: you know. It's like my wife. You know they have 744 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: they storm chasers, Ye, rainbow chaser. She's a rainbow chaser. 745 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: Rainbows fill her heart like nobody's business. And when there's 746 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: a big rainstorm, she'll get in the car and she'll 747 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: go out and she'll like find rainbows and it's like 748 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: it just takes her breath away. And I look at that. 749 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: That's it. That's the stuff. It's like we we look 750 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: for those like gonna find them, and we we can't 751 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: let our lives just pass us by. We've gotta do it. 752 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: We gotta live joyfully, productively, abbudantly. We gotta allow no 753 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: matter what our condition is, as long as we have 754 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: breath in our lungs and we we just we gotta, 755 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 1: we gotta, we gotta choose to live this life fully. 756 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: I love I love man, Scott. I could listen to 757 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: you talk for days. Man. This. I hope our community 758 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: jumps over and tunes into to live your days because 759 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: you've got me fired up. There's like thirty day challenge things, 760 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: the challenge, thirty day challenge. It's not like you know 761 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna have you like climb mountains or run marathons. 762 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: It really is it's just to build those muscles of 763 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: awareness and contentment in our lives that really go wow, 764 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: like there's so much here that Yeah, okay, so I 765 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: just started doing it. I got a journal and we 766 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: even sell these. We even sell journals on thembe days 767 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: like com because all the merchen we sell their benefits 768 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: the Cures Foundation. Right. So the first one, um, happened 769 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: yesterday and it's just an example. Uh, it was three 770 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: things I'm most grateful for and kind of why and 771 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: so my three things were family, opportunity, and redemption. So 772 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, the we we you know. The thing with 773 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: with with living your days and being in faith is 774 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's kind of like four legs of 775 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: the chair, right and you're sitting on this. It's a 776 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: foundation of your life. And these four colors and one 777 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: is physical, one is is emotional, another one is intellectual, 778 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: and the other one is spiritual. And if any one 779 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: of those legs is missing, you're probably gonna fall down 780 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: and it might get hurt. Right. So you know, the 781 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: idea is, you know, we gotta fortify ourselves every way 782 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: we possibly can, and that's the get strong thing all 783 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: the above. Right, So, um, you know I hope people 784 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: go to live your Days dot com and join this 785 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: movement and we got to create some positivity and and 786 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, we want them to share their thoughts and 787 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 1: their experiences and take the thirty day challenge and by 788 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: the merch that will fund cancer research and and enjoy 789 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: the podcast. That's so cool too that you put a 790 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: purpose behind the passion behind the mission. You know that 791 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: it funds cares and the money goes towards that because 792 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: they you're doing something that's impactful, meaningful, lights you up, 793 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: and you're giving to people, and then the cause of 794 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: it and where the money goes is then beneficial over here. 795 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: Um Scott, you are just like said at the top 796 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: of the show, you are a living legend. I'm living. 797 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: That's that's all that matters right now. I'm living. But 798 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: as an athlete, you're a living legend. As and as 799 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: a human being, as a humanitarian, you are a living legend, 800 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: my friend. So I think you know it's it's you know, uh, 801 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: thank you, you know, I've you know, like I mean, 802 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, as as human beings, we make a lot 803 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: of mistakes and we just gotta keep moving forward. And 804 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: that's what I said. You know my three things I'm 805 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: most grateful for, you know, or my family, my my opportunities, 806 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: and you know, especially redemption. You know, it's like knowing 807 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: that my creator loves me unconditioning forever. That's a good 808 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: reason to get out of better every morning. Oh, my friend, 809 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: you are welcome on this podcast anytime. I know your family, 810 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: I know your boy. There's because calling you. Yeah, we 811 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: got an A on his English test today, so we're celebrating. 812 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,479 Speaker 1: You picked up some food and we're gonna just munch 813 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: and now I gotta host a nationale Zoo fundraiser in 814 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: about an hour. And Okay, I'll thank you so much. 815 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: You've inspired me, You've inspired our audience. Go to Living 816 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: Thanks dot com, Live your Days dot com, where people 817 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: can check out for dot com. Mr Scott Hamilton, a 818 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: living legend. Thank you so much. Everybody else, thank you 819 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: for tuning into this episode. We'd love to have to 820 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: have you back on, Scott, you were so in big time. 821 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: Anytime until next week, guys, take care of one other, 822 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: love one another, and we'll see you back here for 823 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: another episode of How Men Think