1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Jews in England, he'd go to jail for that. Here 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: in America, did he commit a hate crime? Listen to 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Too Many Lawyers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Kenny Florian. 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: I fucking love him. 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 4: I can't get. 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 5: Enough of him. 15 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 4: Let's hear that both. 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 6: Next the job there Cotufian Prick Bears. 17 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: Hound out. 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 7: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists. 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 8: All right, you got to be back in your lives. Monday, 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 8: August twenty third of the Years twenty twenty one. It's 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 8: episode two fourteen of the Anacaptorian podcast. 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 9: Happy Birthday. 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 8: If it's somebody's birthday out there, I feel like it's 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 8: somebody's birthday every day when you get older, So lock 26 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 8: it in your phone, and every single day it's somebody's birthday. 27 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 8: Ken Flow's in Las Vegas, Nevada. Good morning, Pale. It 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 8: is seven point thirty on the Screws Pacific Standard time. 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, thank you very much. 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 6: Good to be back in Vegas, staying at a hotel 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 6: here where I actually used to fight. 32 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 4: This is how old I am, John. 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 6: It's you know, I stay at hotels that are no 34 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 6: longer the same names when I was staying there back 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 6: in the day. 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like when I was staying there fifteen 37 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 4: years ago, it was a different name. That's how old 38 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 4: I am now. 39 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 40 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 9: Black and white television. My dad was like what I'm like, Yeah, 41 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 9: I watched the Celtics and most nights in the eighties. 42 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 8: Like it wasn't a great feed, you know, like that, 43 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 8: can we get a better picture? Be like, son, why 44 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 8: don't you sit on the floor for not you can 45 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 8: earn your way back to the couch. Notice how Kenflo 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 8: won't tell you why he's in Vegas, Like I have 47 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 8: to fry that out of him. He's out there filming BattleBots. 48 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 8: So he's going to leave us in about forty five minutes. 49 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 8: But we appreciate you waking up. It's a nice little backdrop. 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 8: It looks pretty nice where you. 51 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 4: Are, thank you. 52 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: Man. 53 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a nice hotel. 54 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 6: I'll be working my ass off for the next couple 55 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 6: of weeks, so it's going to be intense but exciting 56 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 6: and fun. 57 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: And yeah, I miss I missed that information. 58 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 9: Sorry, you left a lot. No, I just kid. 59 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 8: You left a lot of real work at home though, 60 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 8: And yeah, I know people. People don't like what I 61 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 8: complain about being tired after UFC show, so I'm not 62 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 8: going to do that this week, right, But you dive 63 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 8: right back into childcare after the PFL show and then 64 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 8: you fly out and you're studying robots instead of doing 65 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 8: round the clock childcare. 66 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 9: So it's just different too, it is, it really is. 67 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: And it's tough, man. 68 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 6: This is the longest I'm going to be away from 69 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 6: seeing my kids, and like, by the time I get back, 70 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 6: they'll probably be twice as big and saying all these 71 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 6: things and doing all these things. 72 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: So I'm sorry going to miss that, but yeah, it's tough. 73 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 9: With respect to your son, he is not a part 74 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 9: of this equation at least right now. 75 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 8: I mean, how many knights you are gonna be away 76 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 8: from your daughter because your son will not remember any 77 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 8: of this. 78 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: No, he won't. 79 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 9: How many nights you're gonna be away, did. 80 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: It's gonna be I won't be back until September fifth? 81 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what. Yeah, I mean, that's a that's a 82 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 9: big deal. 83 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 6: That's a big deal, And they can't really come out 84 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 6: and visit because it's not a good time to have 85 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 6: a baby on a plane, you know, like that. 86 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: He doesn't have an immune system. 87 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 8: So it's like, yeah, no, I just have so much 88 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 8: respect for all the military men and women around the world, right, 89 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 8: and the sacrifices that they make, you know, with their 90 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 8: time and other things. But trying to wrap my head 91 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 8: around one hundred and eighty nights potentially or more away 92 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 8: from a child who's like eight and really gets it, 93 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 8: that could be very difficult. So all right, a lot 94 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 8: to get to UFC Fight Night. Cannon here versus Gasolm 95 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 8: is in the can. Some PFL stuff on Kayla Harrison 96 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 8: time permitting as well, But let us begin with headlines 97 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 8: in UFC Fight Night canar versus Gastolum Unanimous decision for 98 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 8: Jared Cannon near forty eight forty seven times three. Your 99 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 8: thoughts on the UFC headliner over the weekend listen. 100 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 6: I thought it was a great fight, you know, physically 101 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 6: I was a little concerned because for me, I felt 102 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 6: like Gastlm looked like he wasn't in the best shape. 103 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 6: But he came out and really delivered. I thought an 104 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 6: awesome performance. He had gotten Cannoneer's face. He was active, 105 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 6: he was throwing some awesome combinations. He was doing his 106 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 6: best to be successful with his wrestling. I thought his 107 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 6: shots were good. He just wasn't able to finish a 108 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 6: lot of those takedowns. 109 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: And for me, Cannoneer I think really established himself as 110 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: truly elite. 111 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: You know. 112 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 6: I was waiting for another performance for him against another 113 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 6: very well established and respected fighter like at Kelvin Gastolon 114 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 6: to see how he would perform. 115 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: And man, did he perform. I thought that he won 116 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 4: the fight. 117 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 5: You know. 118 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: For anyone who thought maybe it went the other way, 119 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty clear. For cannon Ear. Yeah, 120 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 4: I thought his striking was awesome. I thought he showed 121 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 4: tremendous patients. 122 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 6: There were times where I would agree with him where 123 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 6: I would have liked to see him do more, But man, 124 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 6: he kissed so much power, and those hooks were shots 125 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 6: that Kelvin really didn't see coming, and he dropped him 126 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 6: a couple of times because of it, or at least once. 127 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 6: And you don't see a whole lot of guys dropping 128 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 6: Kelvin Gastolim and even fewer who were able to knock 129 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 6: him out. 130 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: So I thought it was a very technical and exciting fight. 131 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 8: Verdict MMA Global scorecard super interesting for me on this 132 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 8: front because it did have Kelvin Gastolom winning round one 133 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 8: nine point five four to nine point four nine and 134 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 8: very close right, and that was sort of I think 135 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 8: the round for me. You know, I thought rounds two 136 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 8: and five were Kelvin's and I did think Kennaneir won 137 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 8: the fight. 138 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 9: I know Hafeo Cordero was upset. 139 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 8: I was able to see him after the fight and 140 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 8: I said, I had two and five for you, but 141 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 8: a round one it seemed like Gasolom and Cordero kind 142 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 8: of thought that they got a lot of things done, 143 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 8: and they did, and overall, you know, you led with Gasolom. 144 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 8: So there's a lot to discuss on the Cannoneer side, 145 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 8: but I want to stay on KG for a little bit, 146 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 8: the chin, the recovery, the recoverability, the ability to mentally 147 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 8: stay in the fight when you get hit like that. 148 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 8: We talked about him fighting seven current or former UFC champions, 149 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 8: twenty UFC fights in two divisions. How you fight guys 150 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 8: like Tim Kennedy and your undersize stared across at Tim 151 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 8: Kennedy and it's just like this, dude, man, I mean, 152 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 8: what is it? 153 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 9: Is it the chin? Is it the recoverability? What is 154 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 9: it for you? 155 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: Uh? 156 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 8: Because at chin is one thing and I guess it 157 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 8: goes for a lot of people. But man, it's gonna 158 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 8: take something really powerful to separate this man from his conscience, 159 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 8: There's no question about it. 160 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 4: John. 161 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 6: For me, the thing that I think will not only 162 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 6: define Kelvin for this fight but throughout his career is 163 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 6: he's the guy that when the lights turn on, he 164 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 6: does as well. And there's never a fight where Kelvin 165 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 6: doesn't really show up or do something impressive, you know. 166 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 6: I think there's very rare do you get a stinker 167 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 6: fight from Kelvin Gasolon. This guy loves to fight. He 168 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 6: is the ultimate competitor when it counts, and I think 169 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 6: his willingness to just want to get in there and 170 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 6: scrap and give it. His best is the thing that's 171 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 6: going to define him. And you don't always see that. 172 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 6: You know, you'll see guys, sure you'll have off nights, 173 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 6: but sometimes you'll see guys that it looks like they 174 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 6: don't want to be there. Kelvin Gaslon always looks like 175 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 6: he wants to be there and he's going to fight 176 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 6: his freaking ass off to the very end. 177 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: And that's why we had such a great fight. 178 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 6: I mean, there's not a whole lot of guys that 179 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 6: are going to get up after taking Cannoneer's best shot. 180 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 8: It's amazing how intuitive you can be when you're not 181 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 8: even there right because you hit two nails just so 182 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 8: firmly on the head. In terms of Gasolum's desire to 183 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 8: be there and his ability to elevate himself on fight night, 184 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 8: you know, we talk about Gregor Gillespie as a wrestler 185 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 8: and how you know, maybe wasn't the best in practice, 186 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 8: but nobody elevated themselves on wrestling night more than Gregor 187 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 8: Gillespie did as a collegian. You know, it really is 188 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 8: a staple of Kelvin Gasoline's career. I mean, you mentioned 189 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 8: maybe not in the best shape of his life. I 190 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 8: don't even think it matters, right, I mean, I don't 191 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 8: know that if he worked his way into a rematch 192 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 8: with Israel at asna if from a strength and conditioning perspective, 193 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 8: he has to be in the best shape of his life. 194 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 8: You know, he is just a fighter, and on fight night, 195 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 8: any given Saturday night, I do think at a championship setting, 196 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 8: with Gasoline's power and his ability to mix it up, 197 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 8: like has a fighter ever had more momentum with losses 198 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 8: in five of his last six, right, It's crazy, absolutely. 199 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 6: And I think that's another reason why the UFC loves 200 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 6: to use him in situations like this, where he can 201 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 6: come in on a short notice or relatively short notice. 202 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 6: You know you're going to get the best Kelvin Gasolm 203 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 6: possible and he comes to fight every single time out man. 204 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 9: All right, So KG is still going to be in 205 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 9: the mix. 206 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 8: He turns thirty in October, but twenty fights in and 207 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 8: nobody's been able to knock him out. He's had a 208 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 8: lot of big wins, obviously against former champions, but Jared 209 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 8: Kannanner was the guy who came in with the significantly 210 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 8: higher ranking number three in the world and did nothing 211 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 8: to diminish that status. You know, I did have a 212 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 8: conversation with my twin brother as to whether or not 213 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 8: we think his ceiling is still as high or higher 214 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 8: or lower than it was going into the fight, right, 215 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 8: And sometimes it's hard for me to take a firm 216 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 8: line or have an opinion on something like that, right 217 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 8: to sit here and say, I don't know if Cannoneer's 218 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 8: ceiling is championship the way maybe I thought it was 219 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 8: going into the fight. You know, I will say to 220 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 8: this audience that I don't necessarily think the Attasannia matchup 221 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 8: right now is super great for him per se, and 222 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 8: that's who the champion is. I think Jared Cannoneer, there's 223 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 8: no doubt, is an elite middleweight. You know, there's no 224 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 8: doubt on my scorecard he won this fight. You know, 225 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 8: I do want to see him maybe take one more 226 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 8: fight potentially, but I don't see one for him in 227 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 8: the top ten, like most of these guys are matched up, 228 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 8: you know, depending on the calendar. With Whitaker and Atosani, 229 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 8: I do think Cannoneer's next fight could be for the title. 230 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 8: What do you think about cannoneir ceiling based upon those 231 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 8: twenty five minutes. 232 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 6: Now there's a lot there. I think that if I'm Cannoneer, 233 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: I would like to get one more fight, and I 234 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 6: feel like he does as well, not only I guess 235 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 6: financially for him and his family, but also to get 236 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 6: that much more experience. You know, when you're a striker 237 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 6: and you're known as a guy who can go out 238 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 6: there and you know, outstrike his opponents, and then you 239 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 6: see a guy like Adasanya who is such a good 240 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 6: counter striker, who's. 241 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 4: Longer and rangier and so experienced. 242 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 6: When it comes to that aspect of the game, I 243 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 6: think I would have liked to, you know, I would 244 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 6: like to get another fight in, you know, whether it's 245 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 6: a I don't know, a Marvin Vittore or perhaps a know, 246 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 6: a winner of Strickland and rock Hold, or you know, 247 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 6: I don't know, but yeah, I think getting another fight 248 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 6: against another seasoned opponent I think would be wise for Cannoneer. 249 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 9: Yeah. 250 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 6: Not only do I think he could pull through and 251 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 6: get the win, but I think just having that much 252 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 6: more experience and getting that much more octagon time before 253 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 6: you're facing an elite guy like in Adasania, I think 254 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 6: would serve him well. 255 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 8: Got a lot of respect for John Crouch and that 256 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 8: team and just the athlete and how thoughtful Cannoneer is. 257 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 8: And again, you know, that was a really really devastating injury, 258 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 8: breaking his all on a bone. He needed a second surgery. 259 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 8: I think his surgeon would have liked him to have 260 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 8: more time before this fight. But you know, part of 261 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 8: the reason obviously why he he needs the money right 262 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 8: now is because he hasn't fought in a while. But 263 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 8: truly he has an elite middleweight Hopefully he can get 264 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 8: in that championship setting and obviously if he takes advantage financially, 265 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 8: he will have changed his life forever. But you know, Costa, 266 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 8: If Paolo Costa is number two in the world right now, 267 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 8: I believe he's rumored to be or is matched up 268 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 8: with fourth Frank Marvin, but Tory Robert Whitaker's the number 269 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 8: one contender, who presumably is going to fight Israelata Sonia. 270 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 8: If that's been announced, that hasn't been on my radar 271 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 8: at all. So we'll see what they do at middleweight 272 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 8: with Cannoneer and how selective he is about you know, 273 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 8: the rock holds of the world and people like that. 274 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 8: But I would think rock Hold were he to get 275 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 8: past Sean Strickland, maybe there would be an appetite for that. 276 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 8: All right, co main event, Mark Madsen against your former 277 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 8: opponent Clay guita split decision for mark O Madson, and 278 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 8: I think most people who ingest this podcast watch the 279 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 8: broadcast and they understand everything that mark O Madson is 280 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 8: going through when it comes to his wife's diagnosis with 281 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 8: multiple sclerosis and everything. 282 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 9: He had a battle just to get to fight night. 283 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 8: But as far as the fight itself is concerned, I 284 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 8: kind of thought Clay Gweda one ken flow. I think 285 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 8: Paul Felders to my right, didn't necessarily agree with that. 286 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 8: What'd you think of the fight? 287 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 9: Overall? It was close? Who'd you think one? 288 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 6: That's a difficult answer for me. I think that listen 289 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 6: watching and maybe not trying to score it. I thought 290 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 6: Clay Gweeda won, if I'm being honest, and obviously I 291 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 6: had picked I had picked Mattson to win the fight 292 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 6: on the podcast. I thought that Madson was the one 293 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 6: going forward largely right. He was the one who was 294 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 6: kind of pursuing, and I thought that there were times 295 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 6: where I thought he landed the bigger blows, but it 296 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 6: was Claiy Guita who was landing more often. I thought 297 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 6: Gweda landed some really good shots in that fight as well, 298 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 6: especially in round one. So there are a couple of 299 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 6: times where it looked like he stunned Mattson in round 300 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 6: one for sure. But you know, the strongest part of 301 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 6: Marco Matson's a game is his wrestling, and he really 302 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 6: wasn't able to get it done. Gweeda did a great 303 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: job of moving and striking, which is an aspect you 304 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 6: don't really see from Clay Guita. So it was a 305 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 6: really close fight. Again, I wasn't watching to score it. 306 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 6: I had Guido winning, So I agree with you. I 307 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 6: thought Guido was landing more. It was a really good fight. 308 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 9: I thought so too. 309 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 8: And sometimes it is hard and Daniel Cormier kind of 310 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 8: kept coming back to this on the broadcast. 311 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 9: But you're calling a fight and. 312 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 8: Then you look over at the stats and they don't 313 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 8: seem too at all dovetail with what you are watching, 314 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 8: and you're sort of wondering, like, what's going on here? 315 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 8: And as I've said on this podcast, you know, if 316 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 8: I was a judge there certainly at this point in 317 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 8: time would have been a scorecard of mine that people 318 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 8: were like, dude, what is he watching? 319 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: Right? 320 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 8: And I'm not saying there was anything egregious that went 321 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 8: on in this fight, but it's like, how are we 322 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 8: scoring leg kicks versus other things? And you know, Clay 323 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 8: Green is going to be forty years old in December, 324 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 8: like nothing fazed him on the feet. But yes, I 325 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 8: think Marco Madson landed the more damaging strikes. I guess 326 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 8: I don't know me digesting those fifteen minutes, I can 327 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 8: understand why Danny Castillo was upset. But congratulations to Marco Madson. 328 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 8: And if it means the way Madson's contract is structured 329 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 8: that he gets show and win money given everything that 330 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 8: he's going through and has gone through, you know, the 331 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 8: double jaws surgeries with the titanium plate not taken and 332 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 8: getting COVID nineteen, losing his house, all of that underneath, 333 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 8: you know, the life changing event. 334 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 9: That is his wife's diagnosis with multiple sclerosis. 335 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 8: Because he's eleven and zero right now, Kenny is a lightweight, 336 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 8: and I just you know, he has a lot of 337 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 8: personal navigations that I think are gonna get in the 338 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 8: way of some of his professional law endeavors. 339 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things that. 340 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 6: Even other fighters, right, and the fans that are watching, 341 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 6: I think we forget that life can knock you down 342 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 6: way worse than the fighting, and we forget oftentimes, and 343 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 6: there's so many stories that we don't know of fighters 344 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 6: who are going in there under some very difficult personal circumstances. 345 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 6: And you know, I think it's a testament to Mattson 346 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 6: and his determination and his ability to deal with adversity 347 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 6: and to kind of try to do his best to 348 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 6: block all of those things out and compete to the 349 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 6: best of his ability and all those things considered. 350 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: Whether he won or lost, it's still impressed of what 351 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: he did and what he was able to do. 352 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, and he called out Gregor Gillespie. I'm not sure 353 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 8: that fight makes a ton of sense competitively. I would 354 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 8: like to see it, but I feel like Gregor might 355 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 8: be ranked again if I'm not mistaken, And yeah, I 356 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 8: don't know. 357 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 9: I don't know. 358 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 8: I feel like Gilespie at this stage of his career, 359 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 8: with respect to Madson's body of work, has site said 360 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 8: on somebody ranked above him? All right, I want to 361 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 8: get to sayid Ya koub Kakromanov over Trevin Jones by 362 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 8: guillotine choke in round three, and thankfully for the Yuzbekistan 363 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 8: native Sayidya kub Kakramanov, this did not go to the 364 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 8: judge of scorecards because it might not have gone his way. 365 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 9: You know, it really was a close fight. I think 366 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 9: it was hard to score. 367 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 8: I certainly think there was some stalling on the part 368 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 8: of a very exhausted Trevan Jones. But bro, this dude 369 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 8: gets a short notice call to the UFC when he's 370 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 8: in Who's Bekistan? 371 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 9: Right? 372 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 8: He trains in California, He's got all this family in Illinois. 373 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 8: Of fucking course you're in his Bekistan when the UFC 374 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 8: comes calling for a short notice fight. You know, no 375 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 8: fighter meeting couldn't make weight four fits twenty percent of 376 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 8: his person. He's not bonus eligible, and on this night 377 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 8: he wasn't gonna win one. But this is what it's 378 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 8: all about. 379 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 9: Man. You know, I feel really good for this kid. 380 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 8: I don't know him that well, obviously, but I think 381 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 8: he could be a potential problem given what he was 382 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 8: able to do with next to no note. 383 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 6: That's impressive, man, I wasn't able to see that fight, unfortunately, 384 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 6: But you know, Uzbekistan has a rich history of wrestling 385 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 6: and grappling, and. 386 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 4: I'd love to go back and watch seven. 387 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 8: In terms of the grappling. And I know you saw 388 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 8: only some of these fights selectively. First fight of the night, 389 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 8: Ramzbrahimi foru MMA. You need to watch that kid grapple 390 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 8: nine pro wins, all nine of them by submission. You 391 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 8: saw the Agnatia Obamundez, the Chilean highlight against Roosevelt Roberts. 392 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 4: Right, Yes, Oh my gosh, what a knockout dude. 393 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 8: So and this man's gonna have an entire nation behind him, 394 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 8: not unlike Chido Vera does with Ecuador. The Chilean's Instagram 395 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 8: following is going up as we speak. He just gained 396 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 8: two hundred more and the time it took me to 397 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 8: say that, actually, but he has. 398 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 9: The potential to be a real star. 399 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 8: Got to play defense at some point though, you know, 400 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 8: this wasn't the fight to knock his defense, I guess, 401 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 8: but he still ends up wearing it and being all 402 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 8: cut up. He is very much has the potential for 403 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 8: these type of highlights. I mean, all of his teammates 404 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 8: running out of superlatives when it comes to talking about 405 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 8: what he's able to do in the gym. But you 406 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 8: know he is not afraid to get hit, and you 407 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 8: know Ken Flop played defense a lot more I guess 408 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 8: in his career. 409 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 6: Right well, I love the fact that you know he 410 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 6: wants to get in there and scrap. I also think 411 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 6: his knockout is on the level of ET's and Barbo. 412 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 6: When he hit that wheelkay, I mean, it's just it's 413 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 6: right there with it. It's one of the It's one 414 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 6: of the best knockouts I've seen in the UFC period. 415 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 6: I know we we throw that around a lot, but 416 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 6: my goodness, when you're talking about the difficulty, the degree 417 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 6: that peak, yeah see it, and the fact that it 418 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 6: just puts them to sleep with seferocity was unbelievable. And 419 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 6: then he says, didn't you see something like he wants 420 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 6: to get paid in bitcoin for his bonus? 421 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 4: So it's like, oh, did he love I think he 422 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 4: said something about bitcoin and wanting to get paid in 423 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: bitcoin or something. But anyways, I. 424 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 9: Love the guy. 425 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 4: It's great. 426 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 8: How many times can ken Flow say bitcoin in ten seconds? 427 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 8: It's over sixty thousand by the way, Uh, it. 428 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: Just went to fifty one since he started talking about it. 429 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 9: Thank you, just insane. 430 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 8: You know, my brother a few weeks ago, it's like, hey, 431 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 8: bitcoin is down like twenty five, why don't you buy one? 432 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 8: You know, I was like, I can't afford to buy one. 433 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 6: Jay. 434 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 8: Uh, It's like, oh what a hebble of your money now? 435 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 8: So yeah, but agnasti Oba Mondez, congrats on the bonus. 436 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 8: The spinning Wheel kick knockout just the tenth of its 437 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 8: kind in UFC history. 438 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 9: I believe that Terry. 439 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 8: Adam knockout by Edson Barboza. Yes, so, I thought that 440 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 8: there was like an explosion of some kind at this arena. 441 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 8: I was in the back interviewing a fighter. If memory serves, 442 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 8: it was maybe January of twenty twelve. It was one 443 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 8: of my first assignments with the UFC, and perhaps Cody 444 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 8: can look that up. But I didn't see it happen live. 445 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 8: And when I heard that building do that and it 446 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 8: was shaking, I thought something was going on. It was 447 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 8: my first of now twenty seven trips to Brazil. I 448 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 8: was freaking out and it was just Edson Barboza doing 449 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 8: his thing. But the way Terry Adam was just stiff 450 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 8: as a board instantaneously. And and Sid oh, like I 451 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 8: just I can't ever hear any knockout to. 452 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 4: That, absolutely, dude. 453 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: And imagine, imagine if that knockout happened at a pay 454 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 6: per view, you know, with a full T mobile arena or. 455 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: Something like that. I mean right, it would have right 456 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: the impact of it. We would be talking about it 457 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: for a long time. 458 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 8: But you're right, you know, no, that's fair and that 459 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 8: healthy added to the Barbosa highlight. And it was January fourteenth, 460 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 8: twenty twelve, six days before you and I called our 461 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 8: fights together for the first time in Nashville, Tennessee on 462 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 8: FX on that Friday night. That was UFC one forty 463 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 8: two outo versus Mendez, the first meeting. All right, it 464 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 8: was a big night for the state of Connecticut. Parker 465 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 8: Porter over Chase Sherman by unanimous decision. Parker Porter is 466 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 8: a really interesting heavyweight moving forward because he's able to 467 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 8: go fifteen hard. 468 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 9: Puts a lot of volume on you. 469 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 8: He's got a great chin, great mentality about him, and 470 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 8: just a great way about him overall. Good father, you 471 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 8: saw the William Knight highlight, the other kid from Connecticut 472 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 8: at light heavyweight backing up and dude, what a what 473 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 8: a specimen this William nightmare Night huh. 474 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 6: A bit of an athlete, huh. I mean it's just, 475 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 6: first of all, you know, you're going backwards. He's literally 476 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 6: stepping backwards. The weight and momentum of his body's going back. 477 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 6: He throws kind of like a lazy hook going backwards. 478 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: You think, well, it's just kind of gotta get him 479 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 6: out of trouble a little bit. Yeah, it did get 480 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 6: him out of trouble a lot of bit. It knocked 481 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 6: him out with his shot that it seems like he 482 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 6: didn't even throw, and then he goes and does this 483 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 6: like gymnastic routine. I was like, how big is this 484 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 6: dude to be able to do that both of those 485 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 6: things within the like yeah, in the span of ten seconds. 486 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: You're like, this dude's a freak. 487 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 488 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 8: So when I beat my brother in one on one, 489 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 8: I'm much more inclined to celebrate than he is. Right, 490 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 8: I'm much more inclined to my mother fuck him when 491 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 8: I win, you know, like walking around, you know, embarrassing 492 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 8: him with the kids on the playground or whatever is 493 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 8: going on. So Fabio Sharant talked a lot of shit 494 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 8: going into this fight. Okay, so I'm curious. I'm asking you, 495 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 8: as the fighter, as the athlete, right, like, to what 496 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 8: extent do you enjoy this in the days and weeks 497 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 8: they are after, when you're with your buddies and your family. 498 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 8: Because if it was me, I wouldn't probably be talking 499 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 8: a bunch of shit when I was going into a 500 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 8: fistfight like this for fear that it would come back 501 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 8: to bite me in the ass. But you know, William 502 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 8: Knight kind of kept his cool unless there was something 503 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 8: he said that I didn't ingest. Babio'scharant talks all this 504 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 8: shit right and just says he's not on my level. 505 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 8: And Babbio's the man right love the water buffalo. He's 506 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 8: not like talking it with any malice. He just didn't 507 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 8: think William Knight was evolving the way he was and 508 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 8: not on his level as the fighter. You knock out 509 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 8: a guy like this who talks about I mean, I 510 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 8: just I just think I'd be really leaning into cockiness 511 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 8: for uh, for the next week. 512 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 6: You know, I'll say this, I wouldn't feel bad about it. 513 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you feel great, you feel like 514 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 6: you shut him up. But at the same time, it's like, 515 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 6: you know that there's some other dude who's training to 516 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 6: kick your ass, and then you kind of have to, 517 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 6: like you quickly get your mindset and be like, all right, 518 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 6: stay humble. 519 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 4: I got to get ready for the next dude who 520 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 4: might do that to me. 521 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 7: You know. 522 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: So it's but you've shut when talking, no doubt. 523 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 8: All right, So I guess you know, I know, I 524 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 8: don't think you and Maynard were like super amicable leading 525 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 8: up to your fight, if memory service. But did Joe 526 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 8: Lozon ever ever say anything leading up to that main event? 527 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 5: He did? 528 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 6: He did, he was making well. Then this is why 529 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 6: like I kind of like wanted to keep punching him 530 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 6: from out he was. You know, I liked Joe and 531 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 6: I like I support him throughout his career. I was 532 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 6: like super pumped that, you know, another dude from the 533 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 6: Boston area was kicking ass. So I had always liked him, 534 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 6: and then he was coming out with these videos and 535 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 6: kind of like mocking me and my brother and you know, 536 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 6: and they were like kind. 537 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 4: Of posting these videos on social media. So and I 538 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 4: had hurt my back. 539 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 6: I wasn't training before that fight like much, and so 540 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 6: I was really nervous about it because I not put 541 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 6: in a camp because of this damn back injury. 542 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 4: And then hearing that I was just really ticked off. 543 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 544 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 8: And I'm just gonna say because Ken Flow is one 545 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 8: of my best friends in the world, like, I love 546 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 8: Joe Lo's on. 547 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 9: There are a lot of people. 548 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 8: From his team that listen to this podcast, and uh, 549 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 8: you know when I and Randy Costa is my man, right, 550 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 8: But it's like I hear people say, oh, you know 551 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 8: Joe Lo's on the King of New England. Mm A, 552 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 8: It's like, Hey, I'm the fucking president of Team Florian. Okay, 553 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 8: Ken Flow foff for a belt three times beat Joe 554 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 8: Lo's on head to head in the main event, right, 555 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 8: So it's like you. 556 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 9: Just I don't want to go down the King of 557 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 9: New England m m A path today. 558 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 8: And again I think Robbie font or Calvin Cada might 559 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 8: step up and uh, you know, of the Florians and 560 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 8: los Ons of the world. So uh, I mean, Jolo, 561 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 8: there's no doubt with Joe Lo's On's UFC body of 562 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 8: work that you can cert he can certainly lay claim to, 563 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 8: uh that distinction. I just don't think of the Anakin 564 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 8: Florian podcast. Those are things that are gonna come his way, 565 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 8: is all. 566 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 6: Uh. 567 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 8: Vince from Hell Pachelle is seven and two in the UFC, 568 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 8: and I'm not sure anybody is happy for him than me. 569 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 8: You know, he's won three in a row. Now, he 570 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 8: changed training camps and I don't know, man, Like, I 571 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 8: hope he gets the big fight that he's looking for. 572 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 8: I don't think he's going to get the Gregor Gillespie rematch. 573 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 8: But I'm just really happy for this man. You know, 574 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 8: he's been through a lot, some of it self inflicted. 575 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 8: I guess at times, you know, you could argue, I mean, 576 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 8: the motorcycle accident in a career that has had a 577 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 8: lot of injuries was less than ideal. But I love 578 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 8: this kid, and I'm really excited because for the first 579 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 8: time in his entire career, Kenny like he's actually thinking 580 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 8: about contention. Like he's never been training with MMA fighters, 581 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 8: he's never been thinking about contention. I'm super happy for this. 582 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 8: I can't call him a kid, but I'm happy for 583 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 8: the almost forty year old Vince. 584 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: The show Vince is doing awesome. 585 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 5: Man. 586 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 6: To me, I think it was the difference was his maturity, 587 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 6: his experience, his ability to win the scrambles that he 588 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 6: needed to win to get those rounds, and I thought 589 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 6: it was really impressive because you obviously, Austin Hubbard was 590 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 6: trying to win that fight. 591 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 4: He was fighting really hard. 592 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 6: It wasn't there was an There wasn't any point where 593 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 6: any of those guys were giving up. They were both 594 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 6: fighting their asses off. I just felt that, you know, 595 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 6: the key moments were one by Vince Michelle and I 596 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 6: thought it was awesome to see, and those are the 597 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 6: kind of fights that also propel you forward and add 598 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 6: a momentum and a confidence to you to keep doing that. 599 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 4: So it was great to see. Vince is an awesome dude. 600 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: I know he's been working really hard and at this 601 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 4: point of his career to see him have this amount 602 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 4: of momentum is really cool. 603 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 8: To see training at elevation doing a strength and conditioning 604 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 8: program for the first time in his career, which is 605 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 8: interesting because he's always been known as being one of 606 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 8: the more physically strong lightweights. And you're right, man, you 607 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 8: summed up Hubbard well too, fight super hard, well rounded 608 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 8: kid just ran into a better man, at least on 609 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 8: this night in Vince Michelle. Did you see the main 610 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 8: card open between all Chandre Pantosia and Brandon roy Ball 611 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 8: by chance I did? 612 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 9: All Right, tell me what your thought. 613 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 6: Awesome fight, Awesome fight that dude, that dude roy Baal. 614 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 6: I mean he I don't know if there's ever a 615 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 6: fight where he's like completely out of it, like he 616 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 6: always has a chance to win that fight at some point. 617 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: There's little things, it's like little details, little. 618 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 6: Things that he's missing that it's he has that fighting spirit, 619 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 6: he has that fearlessness, he has, you know, the skills, 620 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 6: it's just little details, little fine tuning that he needs 621 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 6: to get him to that next level, to get him 622 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 6: over the hump, because man, I'm telling you he's a talent. 623 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 4: He's a talent. Pantosia just again, you know, the experience, uh, 624 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: the determination he did have, those finishing skills that really 625 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: was the difference. Like when he was in the when he. 626 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 6: Had that opportunity to win that fight, he he closed 627 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 6: the door where Rouval just wasn't quite able to do that, 628 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 6: and he had opportunities. 629 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 4: So it was a really exciting fight. 630 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 6: It was an awesome fight, as I expected, But it's 631 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 6: kind of why I picked Pantosia. 632 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: I just felt that like he's a little bit more mature, 633 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 4: and I think he's a little bit more refined in 634 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: some ways. 635 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with everything you said about Brandon Royval. 636 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 8: Got to be on the list for a lot of 637 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 8: people in terms of their favorite fighters with everything he 638 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 8: brings to the table. Are you talking just submission defense wise, 639 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 8: in terms of some of the uh kind of everything. 640 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: I guess there's a little bit more shaping. 641 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 6: There's a little bit more refinement that's needed for Brandon Royval, 642 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 6: and I think he is really talented and I think 643 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 6: he's got a tremendous amount of potential. Man, so I'm 644 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 6: excited for him. I still think there's so much more 645 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 6: for us to see. I would love for him to 646 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 6: keep that aggression and keep that fighting spirit. I just 647 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 6: think there's some some more molding that needs to be done, 648 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 6: and you know, when that happens and when it clicks 649 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 6: for him, watch out. 650 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 9: Yeah. 651 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 8: A lot of valuable experience already accrued by Brandon roy Ball, 652 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 8: of course in the UFC and in other places, which 653 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 8: figures to serve him well moving forward. But all Chandre Pantosa, 654 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 8: of course came in number three in the world. I 655 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 8: believe has the history with Brandon Moreno. Obviously the two 656 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 8: head to head wins, one of them not on his 657 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 8: pro record, which I believe was the submission on the 658 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 8: Ultimate Fighter, and then the decision win as well. And 659 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 8: as I said on the broadcast, it's amazing, or maybe 660 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 8: not so amazing if you know the man, how much 661 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 8: respect all these Flyway contenders have for the champion, Brandon Moreno. 662 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 8: But I got to tell you, and maybe I'm not 663 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 8: even supposed to be sharing some of this, but I 664 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 8: found out at the airport Pantojia almost had to pull 665 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 8: out of the flight. Dude, you know, he dealt with 666 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 8: so much during this training camp. He was not healthy 667 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 8: and his cheek corner, Marcos Stamata, obviously, our good friend 668 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 8: Pahoopa was in the hospital for twelve days. 669 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 9: During the heart of this camp. Pahoopa's got to go 670 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 9: to South Paula and have surgery soon. 671 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 8: I'm not really going to get any of the specifics, 672 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 8: but uh, just so many things got in the way, 673 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 8: and Pahoopa and Machadau, you know their message and these 674 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 8: coaches an American top team are unbelievable, but The message 675 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 8: kind of to Pantosia was like, hey, man, like we 676 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 8: really can't pull out, Like champions kind of have to 677 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 8: win fights when there are all of these different circumstances 678 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 8: going on, and the fact that Pantosa was able to 679 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 8: do that. You know, I don't want to sort of 680 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 8: take anything away from either man, but I think this 681 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 8: win is even more remarkable when you have the backdrop 682 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 8: of everything that he was going through. 683 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 9: So congrats to Pantosia. 684 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 8: I do think with respect to Davis and Piededo, that 685 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 8: that Aleschandre Pantosa is the number one contender and given 686 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 8: his history right with Brandon Moreno, I mean, don't you 687 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 8: make that fight right now. 688 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 4: No question about it. That's that's the fight to make. 689 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: And yeah, I think you're spot on on that. 690 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 6: I think as a as a fighter and as a 691 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 6: dude who was you know, on his way to trying 692 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 6: to be a champion, it's inevitable that you will fight 693 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 6: injured and with a lot of other circumstances, whether it's 694 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 6: a situation you know that like Mark o'madsen's dealing with, 695 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 6: there's something personally going on, something you know, some family issues, 696 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 6: some injury, and the fact that Pantosia was able to do. 697 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 4: That and pull it off, I think is that much 698 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 4: more impressible. 699 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 9: All right, it is time for the Ray Long Go Minute. 700 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 8: It is not sponsored this week, but if you do 701 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 8: want a sponsor the Ray Long. 702 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 9: Go Minute, you can let us know at any time 703 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 9: through the proper social media channels. Let's get to. 704 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 5: Red now, time for the Ray Long Minute. 705 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: And I'm going to punch a hole in this fucking shocks. 706 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 6: That's what I want? 707 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 5: Is the Ray Long Minute? 708 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast. 709 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 9: Well, we can't get this thing sponsored, right, what's going on? 710 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 5: And we come on, no sponsors. 711 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 9: We can't get this thing sponsored. It's unbelievable. 712 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 8: You know, people in the comments suggest that they fast 713 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 8: forward to the Ray Long Minute, which obviously does not 714 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 8: make me and Kenny feel very good. But that's neither 715 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 8: here nor there. But if people are fast forwarding to 716 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 8: this segment, the least it could be is sponsored. 717 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 5: Oh man, they fast forward? You mean they don't want 718 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 5: to listen to how you guys cut the grass together? Yeah? 719 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, we weren't sponsored by a punch a hole in 720 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 9: his chest shirt. 721 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, John, great job on the podcast, but that might 722 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 5: have been your best. That might pronouncing yet that was 723 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 5: your Did you hear that though, Kenny when he said 724 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 5: it crickets exactly? 725 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, d C. 726 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 5: Thanks for jumping in, buddy, literally, I mean crickets dead. 727 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 8: We sold, we sold like a thousand T shirts because 728 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 8: but no, I mean you see a guy punch a 729 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 8: guy right in the chest. I think most m m 730 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 8: A fans, or at least half of them, think of 731 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 8: Ray Longo. I did, and just get completely fucking stone 732 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 8: walled by my broadcast partners, Paul Felder. 733 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: And they're not hardcore. They're not hardcore mm A. 734 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. 735 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 9: They just don't like me, which is okay. 736 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 5: Definitely was the longest silence telling you you know. 737 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 8: And I get off the air, and the fan base 738 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 8: loved it, you know, but I I need I only 739 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 8: need two people in that moment to like it, or 740 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 8: one of two people. 741 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 5: Right they left you for I mean, Kenny, it was 742 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 5: it was actually bit he says, don't know, it's like 743 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 5: punching a hole through his chest. And I'm like, honey, 744 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 5: what the volume? I think we did you hit mute 745 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 5: by by accident? I think she mute. I thought I 746 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 5: really thought she muted it by action. It was cool, 747 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 5: No full blown, full blown? 748 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 4: Are not your friends John telling? Maybe I'm jealous, but 749 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 4: I'm just letting you know. 750 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 9: They're just in a different column of friendship, certainly not 751 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 9: in the longo column, right. 752 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 5: Connor would have been all over that, man. 753 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 9: They would have had a telling telling all right. So 754 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 9: we got a lot of things to uh to get 755 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 9: to with you. 756 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 8: Did you watch this main event between Jared cannedy Or 757 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 8: and Kelvin Gastolon and uh, if so, what did you think? 758 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? I thought it was a you know, obviously close 759 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,959 Speaker 5: competitive fight. 760 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 7: Uh. 761 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 5: I think I think the right guy won, even though 762 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 5: if it went the other way, I don't know if 763 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 5: I would have been totally you know, it was a 764 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 5: close It was a close fight, you know, I think, 765 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 5: you know, I think the bigger punches had more of 766 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 5: an impact, maybe on the judges. But man, did Kelvin 767 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 5: eat that stuff and keep coming forward? 768 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 10: He did? 769 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 5: Look, I'm I don't have a problem either way, whichever fight, 770 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 5: whichever way that one. I don't know that's answering your question. 771 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: But it was just a really close fight, and uh, man, 772 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, you know, Kelvin, I thought, 773 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 5: did you know, I thought he he did better than 774 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 5: he's been doing. 775 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 6: Ray, I'm curious as to what you would have said, 776 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 6: because it seemed like both corners heading into that fifth 777 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 6: round were saying that the other one had three rounds 778 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 6: that they were up. So you know, as a corner man, 779 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 6: what would you have said to to your guy? You know, 780 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 6: I think that might have been a mistake a little bit. 781 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 5: No, Yeah, I think that's the mistake one hundred percent 782 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 5: the mistake because even if they're close rounds, you have 783 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 5: to say the other guy got the round. I mean, 784 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 5: you just just to instill that that you need this 785 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 5: like more. I mean I would have, yeah, going into 786 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 5: that round, I would have said, look, man, I don't 787 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 5: know if if I'm being honest, I go, man, I 788 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 5: have you up, but you can't go by that. You know, 789 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 5: you gotta you gotta go and you gotta end the fight. 790 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 5: You know. I definitely was that the that was the fight, right, 791 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 5: because there was one fight. I guess it was that fight. Yeah, 792 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 5: I think the cornering yeah, both of them. Yeah, I 793 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 5: think it was the first round was the tricky round, right, 794 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 5: So Shelvin got like doing five for sure when it 795 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 5: comes down to that. Man, you never know what's gonna happen. 796 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 5: Like when there's two clear rounds for each guy and 797 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 5: one round could have win either way. That it does 798 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 5: get tricky like that, you know, and that's the way 799 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 5: the cookie crumbles. 800 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 8: I guess some coaches stylistically Ken Flow and Ray, and 801 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 8: I think in a ufc Apex too, there's something that 802 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 8: goes into it with the judges, you know, loudly saying 803 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 8: you're and all this. Yeah, some coaches, you know, uh, 804 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 8: I'm after that first round, like I'm definitely saying to 805 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 8: my students, throw that round away ten ten as far 806 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 8: as I like we yeah, feel like we have that 807 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 8: round and that I think. 808 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 9: Both coaches felt super great that they had won it. 809 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm always gonna if you ask me, I'm always 810 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 5: gonna be cautious and say that you lost around just 811 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 5: to so you don't rest on your laurels at any 812 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 5: point time. You gotta you gotta keep it real. So, uh, Johnny, 813 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 5: you saying that they're saying that so that the judges 814 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 5: hear them and they try. 815 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 9: To know who knows, but trying to influence every strike. 816 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, would be but again then you are 817 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 5: screwing with the fighter. 818 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 4: That's the problem, right right. 819 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 9: No, very very good point by you. 820 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 8: As far as Jared Cannoneer's championship ceiling, you know, do 821 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 8: you think his ceiling is champion after what you saw 822 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 8: twenty five minutes? And did this performance you know, affect 823 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 8: your opinion as to how great you think. 824 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 7: He can be? 825 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 5: No, it didn't. I'm going to say it didn't change 826 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 5: any opinions. I thought the guy was good. I like 827 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 5: that he came down eighty five man. No, I think 828 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 5: he's you know, he deserves a title shot if you 829 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 5: want to make one more fight. You know, Look, it's 830 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 5: not linear logic, but Kelvin was close to winning that fight. 831 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 5: I think tactically he did some things wrong with Adisania, 832 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 5: but I thought he was right in there where he 833 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 5: wanted to be. Had him heard a couple of times 834 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 5: or at least one time, Yeah, but you can't go 835 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 5: by that. But he's definitely got the size and the strength, 836 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 5: and it looks like, you know, he was countering pretty good. 837 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 5: He understands what's going on is takedown defense one hundred 838 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 5: percent held up, So you know, what's to stop him 839 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 5: from putting his ee on his back. He's you know, 840 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 5: he's a big, strong heavyweight coming down to one eighty five, 841 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 5: so you don't know. So, yeah, he deserves He definitely 842 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 5: deserves a shot, But nothing like change. It wasn't like 843 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 5: an aha moment like I had with like Cyril Gon 844 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 5: taking out the Beast, like I thought that was a 845 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 5: really great performance to step up a statement. There was 846 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 5: really no statement made. 847 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 9: I think you made my point for me, I guess. 848 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 8: And again, I'm just talking to my twin brother as 849 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 8: a fan, right, but we're sort of just talking about 850 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 8: Canady or after the fact, and where do we think 851 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 8: he is relative to where he was going in And 852 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 8: I didn't think this was necessarily the statement that he 853 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 8: was looking for, especially because a lot of people are 854 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 8: talking about Gastolon and everything that he got done in 855 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 8: the fight in a losing effort. 856 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 9: Are you watching the PFL to support your buddy Ken Floord? 857 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 7: Now? 858 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 9: Of course, so you watched Kayla Harrison. 859 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 5: When was that fight on Harrison? She's she's definitely a 860 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 5: problem even for Kenny. But there's no question in my mind. 861 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 8: I know I am such a Yeah, I haven't been 862 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 8: able to uh to watch her fight live A lot Obviously, 863 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 8: you know, I'm so deep in these UFC shows during 864 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 8: fight week that I'm not devoting my attack if I 865 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 8: can be watching film on one of the twenty eight 866 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 8: athletes that I need to know by Saturday night, obviously, 867 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 8: it doesn't behoove me to watch the PFL live. 868 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 9: But I love her, like I love listening to her, 869 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 9: I like watching her fight ken fold. 870 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 8: It's got to be pretty pretty cool to have a 871 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 8: cage side seat to all that Kayla's got going on. 872 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and you know, to see all the support from 873 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 6: att that came out, you know, Amanda Nunez and yeah, yeah, yeah, 874 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 6: So the obvious thing very highly highly of her, or 875 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 6: even Junior Desantos was like, I don't lock up, but 876 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 6: he's like, I wouldn't lock up with her. 877 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm telling you, He's like, I don't want 878 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 4: I don't want to grapple her. She's a beast. 879 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, I mean, she definitely has the makings 880 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 6: of maybe being, you know, on the level of a 881 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 6: man the newtst. I mean, she's well on her way, 882 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 6: and she also conceies that she still has a lot 883 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 6: to learn and she's getting better. So you think of 884 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 6: where she's at now and what she's done, and then 885 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 6: you know again, like I think this is the difference, 886 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 6: okay as tough as a sport as muytai is when 887 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 6: you think about how many muy Thai female fighters there 888 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 6: are in the world compared to how many female judokas 889 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 6: there are in the world, and how long that's been 890 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 6: going on, and what it takes to be at the 891 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 6: top of the judo world, right, and what it takes 892 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 6: to be at the top of the muy Thai world. 893 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 6: Doesn't mean it's easy to do to be a Muytai 894 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 6: world champion, but when you think of the competition to 895 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 6: be the best judoka on. 896 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 4: The planet and to do that twice after like you know, 897 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 4: there's like a four. 898 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 6: Year build up to do that, so much can go wrong, 899 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 6: and she she's able to do that twy It's insane 900 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 6: when you think about in those terms, so like, yeah, 901 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 6: of course she's gonna be one of the best mixed 902 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 6: martial artists. 903 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 8: The Olympic accomplishments are insane, right that you have to 904 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 8: have everything sort of build perfectly right in a four 905 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 8: year window, and she was able to do it twice. 906 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 8: And if Amanda Noon as her teammate, and I would 907 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 8: think acquaintance, if not friend at this point, were to 908 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 8: give her that fight at some point under the UFC banner, 909 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 8: and Kayla Harrison were to win it, she would probably 910 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 8: supplant Henry Shudo as the greatest combat sports athlete of 911 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 8: all time, and I believe Sahudo to be that with 912 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 8: Olympic gold and two division UFC championship status. 913 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 9: Sor Ry ken Flow's got to go. Ray, you're gonna 914 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 9: stay what I know? How about this? How about this 915 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 9: fucking guy? 916 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 4: I know you can take over. There's only one guy 917 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 4: I know who could actually take over, and it's Ray. 918 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 5: So I'm good. 919 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 4: I feel good leaving right now. 920 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 5: There's no way you'll leave it right now? Oh my god? 921 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 7: What? 922 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 9: Ray just closes his studio window as well in protest. 923 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 6: Right? 924 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 5: Are you changing diapers? Why? Why we leave? 925 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: I wish that was the case. 926 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 6: I got I got battle bots over here in Vegas, 927 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 6: so I got to shower up, get picked up, and 928 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 6: uh and talk about robots fighting. 929 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 5: The smell it, John, you smell its success. 930 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 9: I smelled. 931 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 5: He's got a freaking big cooin meeting after that. 932 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 8: Smells like fucking cryptocurrency here in boc are its own Florida, 933 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 8: even though. 934 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 5: He's they're going to discuss a new currency day. It's 935 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 5: called coin. 936 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 9: And that'll be hit. That will be the crypto that 937 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 9: he invents. 938 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 4: Bitcoin only bitcoin. 939 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 8: Oh, I know, I know, I knew, I knew that 940 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 8: was covered right. Kobe would have corrected me in the comments, 941 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 8: like exactly. 942 00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 7: You know? 943 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 3: Uh smell. 944 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 8: Hey, Kenny, Hey, real quick before you go. I don't 945 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 8: need like a long prediction. But Gigaci Kadse and Ed's 946 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 8: in Barboza. You're not being forced to make a pick today. 947 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 8: Who would you have gone with if you were? Is 948 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 8: that fair of me to ask? 949 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 10: Like? 950 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 9: Did you think sure enough to have the prediction? 951 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 5: Dude? 952 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 4: It's such a phenomenal fight. I think Giga. I like Giga. 953 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 4: I think he's a he's a bit fresher. 954 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 6: Again, I would never want to count out the experience 955 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 6: and the speed of Barbosa because he still has that speed. 956 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 4: But I think Giga is kind of streaking at the 957 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 4: right time. If I have to pick, I'd go with Giga. 958 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, get out of here. Hey, have a great ship. 959 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 9: We'll talk to you next week. 960 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 4: See you guys there. 961 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 8: He is former three time world title challenger Kenny Floria. Yeah, 962 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 8: we might as well stick on that for a second. 963 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 8: So all right, hum and people talk shit if you'd like. 964 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 8: But it's hard for me to stay awake for these 965 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 8: ten pm Eastern cards on the East Coast. But when 966 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 8: there is a main event like this between Eds and 967 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 8: Barboza and Gigachi Kadse, I will sort of revolve my 968 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 8: day around it. I'll drink coffee at six pm Eastern. 969 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 8: Whatever I have to do to stay up and watch 970 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 8: a fight like that live, I will do because I 971 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 8: think this main event deserves that respect. 972 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 9: What are your thoughts on Barbosa and Shikadze. 973 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, again, it's, you know, the experienced guy that's been 974 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 5: around forever who's a killer against an up and coming 975 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,479 Speaker 5: guy who's been on a streak. I agree with Kenny. 976 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 5: I would go with Chikazi on that, and I think 977 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 5: he must see something that he thinks he can exploit. 978 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 5: He seems like a nice guy, very intelligent anytime I've 979 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 5: met him. So it's definitely power against like speed and grace, 980 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 5: I think. But even though Barbosa's fast too, man, I 981 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 5: don't know, it's a that's a good fight. I'm going 982 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 5: to say, I'm going to take a Gainst Barbosa's favorite 983 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 5: in that fight. 984 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 9: So it's very close. 985 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 8: Now the odds on DraftKings, he gets you Godz a 986 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 8: minus one fifteen and Edson Barboza also in the minus 987 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 8: one oh five. So raisor thin, I think is the 988 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 8: cliche razor thin? So uh long Goo Widman Mma, Garden City, 989 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 8: New York. I guess the hurricane was downloaded or downgraded 990 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 8: to a tropical storm. 991 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 5: Isn't that right? But it wouldn't have mattered anyway. We 992 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 5: were going to be in the gym. Yeah, Quinter was 993 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 5: mad that his caught didn't blow away. He wanted a 994 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 5: he wanted a big hurricane. 995 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 8: Well, it's interesting because for a lot of us who 996 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 8: live in South Florida, this is our reality. 997 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 9: A couple times a year and or every other year. 998 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 8: You're boarding up your house, and you learn not to 999 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 8: mess with these things in terms of trying to predict 1000 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 8: them and trying to minimize them in your own head. 1001 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 10: Uh. 1002 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 8: But I do get excited when these weather patterns start 1003 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 8: to come, and then when it doesn't come, it's like, 1004 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 8: oh man, you know, I actually I got hurricane windows 1005 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 8: on half my house so that I could watch the 1006 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 8: storm and then the storm never came. 1007 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 9: You know. 1008 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. Always always better safe than sorry than with these things. Man, 1009 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 5: they are I don't even like any of the little inconveniences. 1010 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys get slaughtered down there. But uh yeah, 1011 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 5: luckily we got away with this one. But it was good. 1012 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 5: We had a great time at the gym, great training 1013 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 5: and uh and it was one of those days where 1014 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 5: it was mellow because of the storm, so it was 1015 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 5: just a great environment to be in. 1016 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 9: There was some. 1017 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 8: Footage of Morob Dwallash Willi and al Jermaine Sterling sparing. 1018 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 5: Uh that your school that was Saturday. 1019 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I saw you there the watchful eye of 1020 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 8: the Godfather keeping tabs as to what was going on? 1021 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 9: What can you tell us about that? 1022 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 5: And and either man, uh nothing much more. 1023 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,479 Speaker 9: Tell you nothing is what I'll tell you nothing. 1024 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 5: That was just great sparring. And you know, we have 1025 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 5: other guys that give, you know, like different looks too, 1026 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 5: but uh, you know, Algiel can imitate a lot of people. 1027 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 5: I think he did a great job with Uh. They 1028 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 5: had a great pace and uh, yeah, it was great, 1029 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 5: great sparring. 1030 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 8: If I had said as Ray Longo might say, look 1031 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 8: like he tried to punch a hole in his chest. 1032 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 8: Maybe d C would have engaged, because I know Cormier's 1033 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,720 Speaker 8: got a lot of love for you know, business. Silence 1034 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 8: was unbelievable for acknowledging that. H serving of course, were 1035 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 8: I to acknowledge it, right. So I don't know how 1036 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 8: much of this UFC fight night, uh that you got 1037 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 8: to And we got about five more minutes here with 1038 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 8: Ray Longo before we do get to some predictions in 1039 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 8: the main event challenge. But I just wanted to shout 1040 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 8: out a couple of other performances. 1041 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 5: Uh. 1042 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 9: And see, did you see the kid from Uzbekistan? Say, 1043 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 9: Akramanov was. 1044 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 5: Really really good, great, he looked great. Matter of fact, 1045 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 5: he took the fight on four day's notice. 1046 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, and he was home. He was was Bekkistan when 1047 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 9: he got the call. 1048 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 5: Fantastic that that that's I'm gonna say, that was scary good, right. 1049 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 8: I mean, he's a CFFC champion and uh, I'm really 1050 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 8: encouraged by him based upon that effort and and everything 1051 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 8: that was working against him to be able to break 1052 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 8: through with that type of performance. 1053 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 10: Uh. 1054 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 5: And he spoke pretty well yep. 1055 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 8: Uh, Vince Pachelle. I'm just so happy for this guy, 1056 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 8: man seven and two in the UFC. He's been through hell. 1057 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 8: No pun intended, but uh, I was very happy for 1058 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 8: Vince and and all of Chandre Pantosia with a big win. 1059 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 10: Uh. 1060 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 8: Did you see Josiani Nunez on the prelims, this little 1061 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 8: uh yeah, James with the she. 1062 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 5: Knocked the girl out of an overhean and left. I think, yeah, 1063 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 5: I think she broke that distance. She's just looked like 1064 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 5: a little fire cracker. 1065 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 8: And that was really the book on her regionally coming 1066 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 8: in was that she uh headhunts very effectively and super 1067 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 8: skilled as a finisher uh in the Muay Thai world. 1068 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 8: And I I thought the light of the night was 1069 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 8: when DC said that Josiani nude As might be his 1070 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 8: new favorite fighter. 1071 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 5: I could do. 1072 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, man. 1073 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 8: So that's all I have for you. Those are all 1074 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 8: my notes for you today. Have you been able to 1075 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 8: connect with Chris Wyman. I know he's been through hell. 1076 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,760 Speaker 5: You know I texted him, but you know, other circumstances 1077 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 5: I was. I haven't been in the best spot lately, 1078 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 5: so you know, but I will get into I did 1079 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 5: promise i'd get in touch with him, and I did. 1080 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 8: But well, given all that's going on in your world, 1081 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 8: we appreciate you taking the time. And no flights yet 1082 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 8: for Abu Dhabi, but it's on the it's on the schedule, 1083 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 8: so I think that'll be the next time I. 1084 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 9: See you too. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, unless there's something 1085 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 9: I'm missing. When is Morale fighting? 1086 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, September twenty fifth, Yeah. 1087 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 9: All right, I'll see in Vegas. 1088 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna beat there. It's a big fight card. Yeah, 1089 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 5: they didn't screw you, did they. 1090 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I I don't have a flight yet, 1091 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 9: but I'm hoping they call my number. 1092 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 5: Rae. Wow, I'm saying you're gonna beat it. You Rogan 1093 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 5: in DC. I'll see you guys. 1094 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 9: Man, Hey, have a have a great week, and uh, 1095 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 9: don't be a stranger text me back. 1096 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 5: All right? Thanks? 1097 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 9: Here he is very long ago. 1098 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 8: Every week here on the Annik and Florian podcast and 1099 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 8: if you do want the punch a hole in his 1100 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 8: fucking chest T shirts and Florian podcast dot com promo 1101 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 8: code a F ten. All right YOUFC fight night Barbosa 1102 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 8: versus Chicadse this weekend. 1103 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 9: What a main event. Let's get to the main event challenge. 1104 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 3: It's the main event challenge. 1105 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 4: Time. 1106 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 3: How do you everything possible to win? 1107 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 2: It's the main event challenge. John Hannick and Kenny Florian Podcast. 1108 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 8: All Right, I love this fight card. You have ce 1109 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 8: fight Night, Barbosa versus Chicase. You also have a couple 1110 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 8: of Ultimate Fighter winners to be crown. We've got three 1111 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 8: picks today. We are joining by arguably the best capper 1112 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 8: at MMA. He is Ian Parker, the duck at Ian Parker, 1113 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 8: m m A. And of course you're the goat, Cody. 1114 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about me. I thought I 1115 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 3: thought that was the legion for me. 1116 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:10,720 Speaker 5: I didn't. 1117 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 11: Yeah, I can't do to Cody's point, last time he 1118 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 11: did this, he did pick Carla. As far as by TKO, 1119 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 11: I think, oh, we did a joke about it, and 1120 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 11: we all are like, oh, wait to burry Kenny. And 1121 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 11: then Cody's the reason why Kenny still doesn't have a 1122 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,919 Speaker 11: chance in this. But at least he got a little 1123 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,399 Speaker 11: bit closer. So maybe he is the goat. Maybe he's 1124 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 11: better than me. 1125 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 9: There are a lot of goats here. 1126 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 8: I mean, I like to call Cody the wizard, but 1127 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 8: our executive producer, our chief marketing officer, Jack of all trades, 1128 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,959 Speaker 8: Cody Merrow, Cody, you excited to represent team Florian today 1129 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 8: in Ken Flo's absence? 1130 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 7: Or what? 1131 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 3: My MMA picks can't be as bad as my football picks? 1132 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 9: So we're here, Yeah, which are coming back? Pretty? 1133 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 4: Let's go my popular demand? 1134 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 9: Right right? 1135 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 3: I paid my picks, baby, That's how you win money. 1136 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 8: Maybe under the anecdotes banner and not here, but you're 1137 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 8: getting your Cody marrowfl picks one way or the other. 1138 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 8: All right, So interesting fight here at middleweight. I mak 1139 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 8: Mu Murodov minus four to fifty. Gerald Murshark plus three forty. 1140 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 8: So you know there's a lot to this Murse Shark package. 1141 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 5: Right. 1142 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 8: Durability has certainly been tested and at times has not 1143 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 8: held up. His teammates just rave about how good he 1144 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 8: is in training. He's thirty two and fourteen as a 1145 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,240 Speaker 8: pro coming off a win by guillotine back in April. 1146 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 8: I'd say Murodov is a prohibitive favorite, meaning at minus 1147 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 8: four fifty that price would give me pause. Maybe somebody 1148 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 8: with a Parker bank roll would not have pause. He 1149 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 8: isn't ranked, I don't think, but he's won fourteen in 1150 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 8: a row. He's three and zero with two straight knockouts 1151 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 8: in the UFC ian I know you like Muradov. What 1152 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 8: do you think about him in this spot against Murshark. 1153 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 11: Well, once you told me what prohibitive meant, like a 1154 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 11: year and a half ago, I've remembered that because now 1155 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 11: every time you say it on the broadcast like. 1156 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 4: A probably one of three other people that know what 1157 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 4: this means. 1158 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 11: Fantastic, this is what this is the major perk of 1159 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 11: working with John Addak for so long and how to 1160 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 11: pronounce things better and you get a better vocabulary within 1161 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 11: the sport. 1162 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 4: You know what, For Gerald, I'm he must have done 1163 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 4: something weird with this company. 1164 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 11: They like the like It's just like every time he 1165 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 11: gets a win, you throw him to the wolves against 1166 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 11: a top prospect from another country that just breeds animals. 1167 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 11: It's it's crazy, you know for listening for Gerald if 1168 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 11: he can get the fight to the floor on top 1169 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 11: and steal the first. 1170 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 4: Round, because Murdoff is a slow starter, he really is. 1171 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 4: He takes the time. 1172 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 11: His finishes usually come at the end of the second, 1173 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 11: early third, or he just kind of takes over later on. 1174 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 11: But he's gonna have the striking advantage. You know, I 1175 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 11: think physically is a better athlete. Look, I think his 1176 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 11: training partners like GM three because he's a good guy, 1177 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 11: he's fun, he is great on the ground. But it 1178 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 11: just doesn't seem against stronger physical guys that he's able 1179 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 11: to use that. So I'm gonna go Murdof here. I 1180 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 11: do not think he should be minus four fifty. He 1181 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 11: has not fought someone I think on the talent level 1182 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 11: of GM three with where he is at his best. 1183 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 11: I know, and try to not right now try to 1184 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 11: justify about being minus four fifty of the camp that 1185 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 11: GM three belongs to. 1186 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 4: I know what we're doing here. 1187 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 9: I like Burdof here. 1188 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 11: If you're gonna do it, throw him in a parlay. 1189 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,800 Speaker 11: Minus four fifty is insane, no matter how big of 1190 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 11: a bankroll you have. 1191 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 9: Well, and you know, in any sport, I'm a straight 1192 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 9: wasager guy. 1193 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 3: I know. 1194 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 8: I'm laughing because Cody, historically, when he's been presented with 1195 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 8: these opportunities, you know he's picking Mershark, right, because if 1196 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 8: round well, and if you're ken Flow and you're down twenty, 1197 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 8: you absolutely should be picking Gerald Mershart. 1198 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 9: What you would do? And I know Kenny doesn't listen 1199 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 9: to the show back, so I'm not afraid to do 1200 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 9: this right now. Never once in three. 1201 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 4: Years doesn't watch it while he's on it either. 1202 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 9: And the only reason I do is not because I 1203 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 9: want to hear my voice any more than I have to. 1204 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 8: It's because I'm trying to get better, right, So sometimes 1205 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 8: I'll watch this back to try to improve performance. But 1206 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 8: Ken Flow should make his case for Muradov technically or otherwise, 1207 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 8: and then pick Gerald Mershark because it's a four point 1208 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 8: play and he's down twenty and time isn't running out, 1209 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 8: but it kind of is. So Cody be Foor is 1210 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 8: yours h Mercharp plus three forty Rodov minus four fifty 1211 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 8: who deal well in betting. 1212 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 7: You have to pick your spots right, and sometimes you 1213 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 7: get to go against trends when they're happening in the sport. 1214 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 7: Morodov hasn't lost since twenty sixteen. He hasn't been finished 1215 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 7: by a fighter since twenty thirteen, the doctor stoppages and 1216 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 7: sixteen decision loss before that. You know, I think it's 1217 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 7: just time is coming up. I think you go up 1218 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 7: against GM three and he's the stopper. I think GM 1219 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,879 Speaker 7: three's gonna sub him in the second round. So yeah, 1220 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 7: give me GM three plus three. 1221 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 11: Forty Oh all right, so wait, so Cody goes to 1222 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 11: that whole stat sheet after after listening to me talking 1223 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 11: about Murdoff getting better as the fight goes hot, he 1224 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,399 Speaker 11: takes him in the second round. 1225 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I love you, Cody, well, because hubris Ian is 1226 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 7: what really gets you when you're this good. 1227 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,760 Speaker 3: So he's gonna get really confident. 1228 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 7: Maybe a ten eight first round GM three is gonna 1229 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 7: some Maybe Kimora in the second so missed the Cody. 1230 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 4: It's again Peruvian Botai in the second round. 1231 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 3: No, I mean, Kenny can change his pick when he 1232 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 3: wants to, so all in good fun. 1233 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 4: I love you. 1234 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 9: He can't change that one. He can't change me, all right. 1235 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 8: At welterweight, Kevin Lee minus won forty five Daniel Rodriguez 1236 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 8: plus one twenty five. I would like the round of 1237 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 8: the method of victory for the record here guys and 1238 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 8: to our intern Casey Williams. So Kevin Lee back for 1239 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 8: the first time since the very early COVID nineteen days 1240 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 8: he lost to the now champion Charles Olivera. Was in 1241 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 8: Brazilia March fourteenth, twenty twenty. Now back up at welterweight 1242 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 8: Cody for the first time since a fourth round loss 1243 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 8: to Haafael Gosnjos back in twenty nineteen. On the other side, 1244 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 8: we have de Rod stepping up here, trying to make 1245 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 8: it six wins in his last seven. 1246 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 9: Cody, we will lead with you. Who do you like here? 1247 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 9: Kevin Lee slightly favored against De Rod Daniel rodrievez. 1248 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 7: So another situation where the gamesmanship would have come into 1249 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 7: play if you go with Ian obviously fading whatever he 1250 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 7: does in this situation, with the odds the way they 1251 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 7: are right, and I have to pick first, I think. 1252 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 3: De Rod's going to get it done. I'm going with 1253 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 3: the underdog here. 1254 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 7: I actually do think he gets it done because Kevin 1255 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 7: Lee seemingly this is a fight that he could be 1256 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 7: overlooking short notice, you know, headspace seems to be really 1257 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 7: big for him. I think De Rod's gonna come out 1258 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 7: guns of blazing and maybe finish Kevin Lee. So that's 1259 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 7: what I'm going with. 1260 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 8: All right, So you're going with Daniel Rodriguez. I guess 1261 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 8: you reserve the right to change if Ian ends up 1262 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 8: on that side. What is your round and method of 1263 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 8: victory for the record for d run round one, round one, 1264 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 8: and that's a round one TKO for Daniel Rodriguez. I'll 1265 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 8: make sure not to lead with you on the main event, 1266 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 8: My brother, my blue eyed brother. All right, Kevin Lee 1267 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 8: Daniel Rodriguez. This is a very interesting fight because Daniel 1268 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 8: Rodriguez is not just saying the right things, but he's 1269 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 8: doing the right things. And you know, he stepped up. 1270 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 8: I know this fight was offered to other people and 1271 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 8: they weren't able to take it for myriad reasons. You know, 1272 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 8: I understand Kevin Lee has been very critical of Platinum 1273 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 8: Mike Perry, but anybody who watched remember the show on 1274 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 8: this very channel, understands that Mike Perry has relinquished control 1275 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 8: of his career to his coaches. They didn't think right 1276 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 8: now this was the fight to take on short notice. 1277 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 8: He's trying to build himself back up, and I would 1278 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 8: like to see the world respect that the guy who 1279 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 8: did step up is de Roddy and Parker. 1280 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,040 Speaker 9: How do you handicap his chances here against a returning. 1281 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 11: Well, First, kudos to Mike Perry for not taking this 1282 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 11: file on short notice, because we know that if Kevin 1283 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 11: Lee wanted to wrestle Perry Perry, even though Perry's wrestling. 1284 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 4: Has gotten better. 1285 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 11: That would be where the biggest disparity would be. And 1286 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 11: I think Lee going into a new weight class now 1287 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 11: he's actually fighting someone with a similar style. 1288 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 4: But I kind of like d Rod here. 1289 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 11: Also, there's something about this guy that I believe as 1290 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 11: he continues to fight better competition, there's a maturity. There's 1291 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 11: an IQ there that keeps growing. It's not just the 1292 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 11: street fighters, not just the mental toughness. He's not just brawling. 1293 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 11: His boxing is getting more efficient, his precision, his speed, 1294 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 11: just everything, the angles he's taking. He's not just throwing 1295 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 11: caution to the wind to be tough, and that's big 1296 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 11: when a guy when he comes in he's knocking people out. 1297 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 11: I think, Kevin Lee, this is not I hate to 1298 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 11: say this. I don't be like a dick, but I 1299 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 11: don't think it's a smart fight for him to take 1300 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 11: in his first fight at one seventy. It's against a 1301 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 11: guy that not many people really know, but they will 1302 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 11: know if he gets to win, and if he can't 1303 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 11: get this fight to the ground, I don't know if 1304 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 11: he's the better striker here. So I'm gonna go with Also, 1305 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 11: I don't think he nessarly finishes Kevin Lee. Lee is 1306 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 11: a tough guy to finish in general, granted he has 1307 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 11: been before, So I'm gonna go de rod By decision. 1308 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 8: All right, Daniel Rodriguez by decision for Ian Parker. We 1309 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 8: might have to get together for the main event this 1310 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 8: Saturday night, masks On or otherwise. Giget Chikadse minus one 1311 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 8: p fifteen Edson Borbosa minus one oh five. One of 1312 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 8: the rare instances in which there's a fight that I'm 1313 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 8: wicked excited to have not been a sign, so I 1314 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 8: can just sit home and ingest every minute of it 1315 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 8: for however long it lasts. I don't know what the 1316 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 8: round props say about this thing going the distance. There 1317 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 8: are going to be some sore individuals if it does. 1318 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 8: Chi Coadse's won eight in a row. He is as 1319 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 8: nice and intelligent and thoughtful as Ray Longo said he was. 1320 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 8: He's six and oh in the UFC. Last win took 1321 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 8: sixty three seconds against cub Swantson. That was back in 1322 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 8: May of this year. Edson Borboza has had twenty five 1323 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 8: UFC fights. He's got a new contract. He was six 1324 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 8: and oh when he made his UFC debut six and 1325 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 8: oh when he made his UFC debut, And I think 1326 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 8: he looks like a real contender at featherweight. He's a 1327 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 8: slight underdog this weekend. He's won two in a row. 1328 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 8: Last win against Shane Burgos in epic fashion as usual, 1329 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 8: and that was back in May of this year. We 1330 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 8: will lead with Ian Parker out of respect to Cody's strategy. IP, 1331 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 8: who do you have in the main event and how 1332 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 8: do they get it done? 1333 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 11: Well, I'll tell you eds In Barbosa, he actually knocked 1334 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 11: out my friend Nabie that was coached by Ray in 1335 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 11: the Ring of Combat before he got into the UFC. 1336 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 4: And when I saw that live at the Ring of Combat, 1337 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 4: I was like, this man is scary. 1338 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 5: He really is. 1339 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,439 Speaker 4: This is a really tough fight to cap. 1340 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 11: You know, normally you would say Barbosa with the experience 1341 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 11: and the level of competition. You got a guy Kazi 1342 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 11: that's just like it's a sniper, Like he's a legit sniper. 1343 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 11: He keeps getting better. My question is can Barboza use 1344 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 11: the takedowns here? You know, I don't know if his 1345 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 11: leg kicks are going to be I mean, they're always effective, 1346 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 11: but if he's gonna be able to get them off, 1347 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 11: because every time he throws them, you hear the commentators. 1348 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 11: You hear someone like d C and Felder saying that's 1349 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 11: when you throw the overhand right, and if you get 1350 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 11: hit with an overhand right by Jakase you you may 1351 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 11: go to sleep. You know, this one for me and 1352 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 11: I don't know if either guy gets gets finished here. 1353 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 11: Both guys are super tough. Our boats doesn't get finished easily, 1354 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 11: you know, on the feet, unless he gets subbed. I 1355 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 11: don't see that happening. So at the moment, I will 1356 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 11: go Chikazi by decision strictly based on the mystique here 1357 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 11: with him, because he's not fought anyone at this level yet. 1358 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 11: And that's not a knock on Cub. He finished Cubs 1359 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 11: so quickly we didn't get to see Cub while. 1360 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 4: Are you laughing? 1361 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 9: I'm just thinking about how I'm pronouncing it wrong, is 1362 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 9: that know? 1363 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 8: I'm thinking about how sure they are going to be 1364 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 8: in that tiny little twenty five foot just beating the 1365 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 8: hell out of each other. 1366 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,479 Speaker 11: They should not even be allowed to paunch. It should 1367 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 11: just be a leg kickfight, just pure calf kicks nothing else. 1368 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 11: I know it's yeah with no but with no hands 1369 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 11: or elbows either. I just want to see calf kicks schore. 1370 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know this is an elbow to me, this is. 1371 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 11: The most mirrored matchup I think I've seen a really 1372 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 11: long time, between the height, the size to reach, the 1373 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 11: style like this. 1374 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 4: Is like Barboza was when he was coming up. 1375 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 6: You know. 1376 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 9: So some people who bet do so recreationally. Some do 1377 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 9: so professionally. 1378 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 8: I mean certainly a lot of the guys that I 1379 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 8: talk to on a regular basis, they would never just 1380 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 8: bet on this fight because they wanted a little action 1381 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 8: on the main event. 1382 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 9: Obviously. 1383 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 8: You know somebody like me, I'll bet on every goddamn 1384 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 8: baseball game on a Sunday just to have action and 1385 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 8: watch none of them. 1386 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 9: Right, I have issues, But would you bet on this fight? 1387 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 8: Mean? 1388 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 9: Like, would this be like would you bet on this 1389 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 9: just for fun? Or do you see what I'm asking? 1390 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1391 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 4: No, no, I get what you're saying. Am I degenerate? No? No, no, 1392 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 4: I'm kidding. I get what you're saying. 1393 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 11: So if you want like matured, disciplined advice, what I 1394 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 11: would say is, I don't think the lines are gonna 1395 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 11: shift that much between it now and fight. 1396 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 4: Time that you have to go and put something in 1397 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 4: right now. 1398 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 11: So if you want to be if you want to 1399 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 11: be profitable, you want to be responsible, right, I would say, 1400 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 11: go and see how it's the fight as the night 1401 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 11: goes on. If you're money, playing with house money, you know, 1402 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 11: take a side or play a prop just to have 1403 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 11: action in it. If you're chasing, it's a tough one 1404 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 11: to chase, because again, this is this is one of 1405 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 11: the harder truly in my opinion, one of the harder 1406 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 11: fights to cap in a really really long time. Where again, 1407 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 11: I think rank gets tossed to the side. I think 1408 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 11: level of competition gets thrown to the side. It just 1409 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,919 Speaker 11: styles big fights and this is like an older versus 1410 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 11: younger version. But Barbosa's not that old. And you know, 1411 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 11: for me, I'm not betting this one right now. If 1412 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 11: I'm up though, going into the main event, we'll see 1413 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 11: what type. 1414 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 4: Of feeling I have. 1415 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 11: You know, maybe I'll play like an over two and 1416 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 11: a half rounds or something like that. We'll see what 1417 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 11: the odds are there. But I do not bet every 1418 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 11: single fight. 1419 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 4: I can't. 1420 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 11: You know, if you want to do if you want 1421 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 11: to do a full card par like Cody and I 1422 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 11: have talked about this. If you want to go and 1423 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 11: bet every fight and throw like fifty on it to 1424 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 11: win like twenty thousand, have fun, that's cool, you know, 1425 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 11: But you know what, if you're trying to do this 1426 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 11: to really win money and trying to really be profitable, 1427 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 11: this is a very tough one to be confident. 1428 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 8: In bet And I'm not suggesting anybody bet on every fight, 1429 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 8: but I just see how convicted you are in a 1430 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 8: fight that looks very close to a lot of people 1431 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 8: on paper. And when I've thought about ways to amend 1432 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 8: the scoring system for the Main Event Challenge next year, 1433 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 8: one of the things I've thought about a lot of 1434 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 8: people when they do NFL betting, they might have to 1435 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 8: pick every game against the spread, or pick five games 1436 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 8: against the spread, but they have to rank those games 1437 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 8: based upon their confidence. One thing I might have you 1438 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 8: guys have to do next week for next year, I 1439 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 8: should say is, yeah, you got to pick five fights 1440 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 8: on the main card, but you're gonna have to weigh them, 1441 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 8: so you're gonna have to give five points to your 1442 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 8: main event pick versus your first fight on the main Well, 1443 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 8: you know what, I'll tell you this from a betting perspective, 1444 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,920 Speaker 8: I tend and again Cody really does track you know, 1445 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 8: a lot of my stuff. 1446 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 4: I would say that the prelimbs tend to have the 1447 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 4: most value most. 1448 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:44,919 Speaker 5: Of the time. 1449 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, especially this past weekend, the prelimbs was 1450 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 11: really where it was at. The main card played out, okay, 1451 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 11: but you know everyone was sweating the Madson play. 1452 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 5: You know. 1453 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 4: Same thing with ken Yere. 1454 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 11: I think everybody and their mother had Chase Sherman in 1455 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 11: a parlay, you know, but in the but in the prelims, 1456 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 11: you know, we have the first fight on the car 1457 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 11: we picked right. 1458 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 5: You know. 1459 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 11: It's just sometimes I think people get too excited with 1460 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 11: the bigger names and they don't break down the value 1461 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 11: with the fights. And if you do it the right way, 1462 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 11: at least in where I've had success, I try to 1463 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 11: start on the undercard, work my value up, so when 1464 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 11: we get to the main card, you know, you're you're 1465 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 11: playing with as much house money as possible, and therefore, 1466 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 11: if you're feeling something or if you have to play 1467 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 11: a little. 1468 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 4: Bit of chase, you're not too far behind. 1469 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 11: Like this is I could not honestly believe any person 1470 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 11: if they came up to me and said, you're ridiculous. 1471 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 11: This is an easy fight to pick. I know exactly 1472 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,480 Speaker 11: who I'm playing right now. To me, there's no way 1473 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 11: like this fight for me. I'm going to be doing 1474 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 11: hours and hours of tape study still before I make 1475 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 11: my selection. 1476 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 4: If I even do it, you know who you have. 1477 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 7: So I'm gonna tail with Kenny here. I know he 1478 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 7: was talking about picking Chatadse right off the top of 1479 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 7: the show. 1480 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to go with him. 1481 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 7: That's where my statistics kind of lie with Edgison. His 1482 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 7: last four losses are to extremely high competition Lee Felder 1483 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,919 Speaker 7: Gay Chee Egay. I think Chakadse is in that tier 1484 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 7: of competition. Chakadze's six UFC fights two hundred and forty 1485 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 7: three to one to twenty eight, outstriking opponents sixty five 1486 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 7: percent four knockdowns to zero. But his last two fights 1487 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 7: performance of the night bonuses in the last twelve months 1488 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 7: is where I think Chicaze's trend really leans to him. 1489 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 7: Eighty five to forty strike sixty eight percent. In Barbosa's 1490 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 7: time in the last twelve months, only fifty nine percent 1491 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 7: and he was actually losing round two on the judges scorecard, 1492 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 7: a judges scorecard in Houston. I was at that fight. 1493 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 7: It was a very back and forth fight. The finish 1494 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 7: obviously is very important. But I think Chicatz is just 1495 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 7: that next level of striker. I think he's going to 1496 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 7: go out and show that to Barboza, and I think 1497 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 7: he finishes Barboza. I think early, because that's how he 1498 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 7: has to get it done. Barbos is way too tough 1499 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 7: to sit around. So I think Chicadz round three. 1500 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 8: Ko, how about that at Cody Merrow at Ian Parker Mma. 1501 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 8: Very interesting stuff and I kind of thought you might 1502 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 8: go Barboza just out of strategy, but Ken Plow gave 1503 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 8: us a pick, and a lot of the guys, I mean, 1504 01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 8: everybody on this show today had Giga Chikadz. 1505 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 9: All right, he appreciate the time, My brother. We will 1506 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 9: talk to you. I guess next Monday. 1507 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 11: If I'm not mistake, Yeah, that's your call my mind, 1508 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 11: so uh yeah, you know it's uh no, I'm kidding. 1509 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 11: Let me ask you a question we're gonna make. We're 1510 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 11: gonna make some picks for the Contender series. Give Kenny 1511 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 11: a chance to get some bonus points in there. 1512 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 9: No, all right, cool, stay handsome though, we'll talk to 1513 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 9: you next week. 1514 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 4: Appreciate that, all right? 1515 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 8: On social media at Ian Parker, m M A Cody, 1516 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 8: get back in here with whatever fancy TV. 1517 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 3: I did click the wrong button. That was completely all right. 1518 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 8: So did you just call him Edgison Barboza because you 1519 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,639 Speaker 8: got a Brazilian girlfriend? 1520 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 9: Did you just call him? 1521 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 3: That's a lot? I mean that's how his name is pronounced, 1522 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 3: is it not. 1523 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 9: I saw that you. 1524 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 3: I saw your face change when I said that. 1525 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 7: See, this is the after show conversation people don't get 1526 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 7: to see again, Biblosa. You've been had You've had the 1527 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 7: green screen on for like four weeks every time. No, 1528 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 7: it's a green screen. Look at do you not see 1529 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 7: so whatever you on your green screen? I did get 1530 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,440 Speaker 7: kok Romanov right last week? It's is it kok Ramanov? 1531 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 7: Or like, how do you say that one? 1532 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 9: Oh? 1533 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 8: Say you dir kub cockrock. Uh, now you're gonna suck 1534 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,680 Speaker 8: me up? SAYI did kub Cochromanov? 1535 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,919 Speaker 7: Sorry say yeah, see I said it was sid Yokob. 1536 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 7: I messed the first one completely up when I did it. 1537 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 8: Your kub Cochromanov and people are like, man, you know, 1538 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 8: I thought already knows how to say the name, and 1539 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 8: it's like, well, my first thought is like, well, it's 1540 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 8: my job, you know. 1541 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 9: But it's like I I said it fifty times in 1542 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 9: my hotel. 1543 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 8: Room, right, and I think there are a lot of 1544 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,920 Speaker 8: individuals more capable than me that if they just did that, 1545 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 8: they would knock it out of the pack. All right, Cody, 1546 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 8: thank you for making those predictions today. Yeah, so Edgeuson 1547 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 8: Barbosa just yeah, I mean. 1548 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 7: It's ed if he says it in South Florida, it's 1549 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 7: Edson Barbosa, right, if he goes to the coffee shop, 1550 01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 7: he goes to Starbucks, He's not. 1551 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 3: Saying my name is Edgison. 1552 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 9: Like, I can't believe you. 1553 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 8: You We have talked about Edson Barbosa before you aligned 1554 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 8: with this wonderful Brazilian American and you've called him Edson 1555 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 8: and now you're calling him Edgison. 1556 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,520 Speaker 3: Now I'm getting educated. 1557 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, the fuck out it. We gotta go 1558 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,040 Speaker 8: and at florianpodcast dot com. If you want merchandise, if 1559 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,640 Speaker 8: you want one more sleep gear, by the way, you 1560 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 8: can find it at millionsmillions dot co. One More Sleep 1561 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 8: hats and shirts promo code Anka and I K for 1562 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 8: ten percent off your order, and the link to that 1563 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 8: is in my Instagram bio as well. PFL will not 1564 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 8: feature Kenfield this weekend, but we encourage you to watch 1565 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 8: that and of course the UFC on August twenty eighth 1566 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 8: UFC Fight Night Barbosa versus Chicadse. Kenflow's YouTube channel is 1567 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 8: live as well. If you like all that jiu jitsu noise, 1568 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,120 Speaker 8: power to you thanks to long Ago and Ian and 1569 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 8: Kenflow and of course the man Cody Merrow. We'll talk 1570 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 8: to you guys all in less than seven days. Thank 1571 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 8: y'all for watching and listening, for subscribing. Appreciate every last 1572 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,599 Speaker 8: one of you. We'll talk to you in a week. 1573 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 9: Until then, you. 1574 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 10: M hm hm hm. 1575 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:20,560 Speaker 12: Hi. Uh this message just for John Anick and not 1576 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:27,680 Speaker 12: Kenny Florian. Kenny, if you're listening, please uh stop. 1577 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 10: Listening. Hey John Anick, Hey, I know you're. 1578 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:39,639 Speaker 13: A broadcaster guy for the Fighter guys, could you please 1579 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:45,360 Speaker 13: learn it's it's not for Zeve. It's pysyev and and 1580 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 13: and I think that you need to practice that. It's 1581 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 13: hiss he like the letter and. 1582 01:11:53,040 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 10: Then Ev like Evelyn who uh, coincidentally, that one is 1583 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 10: my great grandmother's name. And I really don't think you 1584 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 10: guys have a good game, and nobody is knocked down 1585 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 10: and shucked off