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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my

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Speaker 1: name is Noel. And oh I hear a lack of something,

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Speaker 1: A great void, A great void, as as though a

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Speaker 1: chasm in the earth opened up and swallowed our compatriot Benjamin. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I actually have a bit of a confession to make here.

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Speaker 1: When we were performing the ritual that that we do

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Speaker 1: to someone Ben here every week we get him in well,

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Speaker 1: I unfortunately screwed up on one of the runes and

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Speaker 1: he ended up in Nevada somewhere. Matt, you know you

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Speaker 1: can't screw up the runes. I know. I usually am

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Speaker 1: super super careful, but we were just getting back from

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Speaker 1: the holiday break. It's such a stickler for the runes. Matt.

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Speaker 1: How could you let this happen? This? I can tell

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Speaker 1: you he is safe. He's contacted us through you know,

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Speaker 1: the neuro telepathy ways that he generally does. He says

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Speaker 1: I was a little I don't know. I didn't understand

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Speaker 1: that part very well, but he said he'll be back

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Speaker 1: to us soon, and uh, he's fine. He already was

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Speaker 1: killing it on the slots. I heard that too. You wait, okay,

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Speaker 1: So when you hear his communications, is it like an

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Speaker 1: sort of more like a kind of that oh got you. Wow.

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Speaker 1: It just it sort of rips through my psyche and

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Speaker 1: Every time it happens, I usually end up with a nosebleed,

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Speaker 1: but a little bit wiser right every time when you know,

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Speaker 1: no pay, no game. In my opinion, he is uh

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Speaker 1: one of the best parts of this show, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: he will be back here very very soon. You know

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Speaker 1: what he would say, The best part of the show

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Speaker 1: is though who you not? You, Matt, You're okay? You

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Speaker 1: the listeners. Oh that is very true, And it is

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Speaker 1: true that we just got back from the holidays after

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Speaker 1: whatever you're doing there, it's a time of reflection and

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Speaker 1: we were definitely thinking a lot about you again, not you, No, sorry,

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Speaker 1: you weren't thinking about me, Matt a little when I

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Speaker 1: was playing around with my Google Home, which is one

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Speaker 1: of the things I received. Yeah, man, I I felt

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Speaker 1: like when we were talking about this gift, there was

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Speaker 1: I thought that was funny, and I think it was

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Speaker 1: either for the Home or the Amazon equivalent. There was

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Speaker 1: And I just felt like that was a little bit

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Speaker 1: We talk about you, the listeners. We hope you had

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Speaker 1: a really lovely Christmas holiday, whatever you celebrate. Um break

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Speaker 1: let's call it, because man, we all need one. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We're going through all kinds of messages that have been

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Speaker 1: certainly hope. So Stony says, the Mandel effect is in

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Speaker 1: the alleged movie from the nineteen nineties known as shah

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Speaker 1: just going through all of these instances of people truly

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Speaker 1: I just read an article in the Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 1: UM where it was talking about an insider in Trump's

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Speaker 1: transition team. UM was saying that he is looking to

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Speaker 1: more or less gut intelligence agencies like send you know,

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Speaker 1: staffers off to you know, field positions, and just more

431
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Speaker 1: or less kind of like slim down all of these

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Speaker 1: intelligence agencies and basically spy agencies. Then in the article

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham, there has been no you know, uh friend

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Speaker 1: of Trump, you know, throughout the election process. Um has

435
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Speaker 1: kind of had to jump on board a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But he was saying that between the way he put

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Speaker 1: it was between you know, a man on the run

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Speaker 1: living in an embassy and our most respected high level

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Speaker 1: intelligence officials who are sworn to protect our country. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the second of the two, you know,

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Speaker 1: in terms of who to believe, and just the fact

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Speaker 1: that Trump is invoking a Sande's name in that way too,

443
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Speaker 1: as though he's like a reputable individual, and he has

444
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Speaker 1: kind of been looked at as like an enemy of

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Speaker 1: the state in a lot of ways because of all

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Speaker 1: of the things he's leaked and putting you know, people

447
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: at risk, diplomats and such. You know, Well, yeah, supposedly,

448
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm in a tough place with this one.

449
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: Not to give my opinion too much, but I I

450
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: certainly have respect for Julian Sane and the investigative and

451
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: journalistic work that he does and all of Wiki leaks,

452
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: just because I got on board way back in the

453
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Speaker 1: day with the Iraq war logs and with some of

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Speaker 1: the early early stuff. Um, you know, I can't throw

455
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Speaker 1: this guy out the window say he's an enemy, though

456
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Speaker 1: I do completely understand how intelligence agencies view him in

457
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: that way. I'm saying is that's kind of the company line,

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Speaker 1: you know, as far as he's concerned. And for Trump

459
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Speaker 1: to kind of like invoke his name in more of

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Speaker 1: a friendly way, I think it's interesting. Oh yeah, definitely. Well, hey, Matt,

461
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Speaker 1: I have a suggestion. Why don't we take a quick

462
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: sponsor break and then we'll hop right back into some

463
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: of these delicious listener male treats. Let's do it right.

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Speaker 1: What you got, We're back with no delay. We've got

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Speaker 1: one from Su. Su says, I'm not sure how true

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Speaker 1: this is, but it is someone bewitching a cow as

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Speaker 1: you asked, Oh, okay, it's a video clip here of

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Speaker 1: Oh this is Stanley's Superhumans, a show that has been

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Speaker 1: on for quite a while now, and it's a clip

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Speaker 1: of this gentleman known as kansaw a sense. Who is

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00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: they're they're calling him a beast master. Supposedly he can

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Speaker 1: move his arms and use g manipulation that energy that

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00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: known energy in many circles, unknown in others, that flows

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Speaker 1: through all living things and all living beings. Uses that

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00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: to make alpacas and separately bison to lie down and

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00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: go to sleep, at least allegedly, and there's video proof

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Speaker 1: of him doing this in two separate instances. Fascinating. Oh.

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Speaker 1: This is in response to uh cattle witching from the

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Speaker 1: Cold Goo episode. Ben's famous cattle witching comment. People people

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Speaker 1: like that one. I really did want to learn more

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Speaker 1: about this. I wonder if this is the describe what

482
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Speaker 1: can you describe this to me? Like a little bit

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Speaker 1: like what how does he go about this? What does

484
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: it look like? Okay, so you're not gonna be able

485
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: to see this, but he uses one hand. We'll see

486
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: it in our minds. Okay. Um, So he's going to

487
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: face the animals rather far away. He says the energy

488
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Speaker 1: works better when he's further away for some reason. So

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Speaker 1: he outstretches one hand, let's say, his left hand, and

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Speaker 1: kind of holds it palm facing the animals. And then

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Speaker 1: with his right hand he's doing movements kind of like

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Speaker 1: you've seen in raiki before maybe where he's been he

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Speaker 1: it looks like he's manipulating energy like you'd see um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, a super saying or someone using their

495
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Speaker 1: like gathering energy and pushing it and moving it, manipulating it.

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Speaker 1: And then the alpacas just begin to get on their

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Speaker 1: knees and then lay down and put their heads down,

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00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: and the same with the bison. It's rather fascinating to watch.

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Speaker 1: It's remarkable. I don't know if this is considered cattle

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Speaker 1: witching or if this is this man truly doing something

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00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: to change the way the cattles think. Do you think

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Speaker 1: his skills are limited to alpacas and bison? No, according

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Speaker 1: to the Gentleman, at least from the clip, No, these

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00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: were just two groups of animals that were available for

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Speaker 1: the filming. I guess of the show fascinating issue. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for sending that in. I really really appreciate that. And man,

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Speaker 1: we heard from quite a few cattle witchers out there.

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Speaker 1: You guys got some hidden talents. This one comes from Joshua.

509
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Speaker 1: I am one of what you have referred to as

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Speaker 1: cattle witchers. My father too has the gift, and his

511
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Speaker 1: grandfather as well. Not my paternal grandfather, though he was

512
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Speaker 1: a jerk. Well he's in there. Uh so, I'm pretty

513
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: sure the animals could tell kind of hilarious that he

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00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: tried to be a farmer. I'm not sure about making

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00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: entire herds of cattle stampede, but I am able to

516
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: gaze into the eyes of various animals and influence them

517
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: in some way, usually either making them very uncomfortable or affectionate. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: The same effect happens to most people when you gaze

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00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: into their eyes as well. House pets just will not

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Speaker 1: leave me alone, whether it be my own pets or

521
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: those of others. Yeah, maybe you just have like beautiful,

522
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: deep blue, lagoon like eyes that you just get lost in.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine it. I'm hypnotized just just thinking about it. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: he does say that it can be frustrating, as reading

525
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Speaker 1: can be difficult with cats and dogs crawling all. Are

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Speaker 1: you anyway with bo vines specifically? Not all are so

527
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Speaker 1: easily bewitched? Yeah, yeah, bo vines. Um. I've lived in

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Speaker 1: many different regions and the culture slash attitude of cattle

529
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Speaker 1: very interesting. So there's probably like the ones that live

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Speaker 1: wait wait wait, the culture and attitude of the cows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's snooty cows. No, there's there's probably like in real

532
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: entitled cows, all right, and then there's cows that you know,

533
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Speaker 1: are people take one for the team, you know, and

534
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: that are all there. You know, they play well with others.

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Speaker 1: I want to know more about this. None of what

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00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: I just said is in the letter. That's all my

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00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: editorializing here. But let's let's continue. The cattle around dairy

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00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: farms are far more trusting than those around beef range. Well,

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00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: that makes sense because the beef cattle they're probably used

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Speaker 1: to hearing the dying screams of their compatriots, and you know,

541
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: the milk ones are worst a little uncomfortable. Um, probably

542
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Speaker 1: a better life. Uh. But I've tried to get the

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00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: beef cattle to make a run for it, but they

544
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: stubbornly maintained that they enjoyed the grain and liked it

545
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Speaker 1: there on the farm, and it wasn't worth leaving on

546
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: the off chance that I was telling them the truth

547
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: about the elaborate and ridiculous beef conspiracy. Like their meat

548
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: that was quote quotes there, so I'm guessing that is

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Speaker 1: how they interpreted it. So he's talking to the Yeah,

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00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: the beef cattle, who are going to be beef. Okay,

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00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: it's what's for dinner. Beef cattle are very stubborn. Furthermore,

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00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: in areas where there are fewer cows, they have a

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00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: proud and strong sense of independence. Makes sense to me,

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00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: and are therefore harder to talk to, as they will

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Speaker 1: often mock me for wearing clothes full full human Oh, Joshua, I,

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00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: I I feel like you're writing a funny letter to

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00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: us on purpose. But if you are serious and this

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00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: is all serious, uh, that is amazing, and uh thank

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Speaker 1: you either way for writing that? Is there more? Oh? Yeah,

560
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I've tried to explain, but they seriously just don't get it.

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00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: Dairy cows are nice. They enjoy being scratched on the

562
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: neck behind their ears and try to offer life advice,

563
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: so they're sort of like the life coach of the

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Speaker 1: animal kingdom. I politely pay attention, as I know they

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00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: mean well. Other than bovine trips to the zoos sound cool,

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Speaker 1: The animals there don't have much to talk about. The

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00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: guerrillas are either very bitter or very content with their

568
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: zoo situation. I just thought you'd like to hear from

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Speaker 1: an actual cattle whicher. I hope you've enjoyed the inside.

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00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: Definitely we have, and I hope you all have as well.

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Speaker 1: And Joshua, thank you so much for this delightful letter

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00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: that was I mentally entertaining. Well. Uh, Matt, why don't

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Speaker 1: you take this one from a former staff sergeant writing

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Speaker 1: in about our drugs in the military episode. Yes, we're

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00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: going to redact the name here. This person says, I'm

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00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: a recently separated Infantry staff sergeant with ten years of

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Speaker 1: service and two year long deployments to Afghanistan. Your military

578
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: and drugs episode piqued my interest because throughout my time

579
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: in the military, I saw many abuses of certain substances.

580
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: I started college last summer, and in one of my classes,

581
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: I wrote a research paper on the abuse of energy

582
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: drinks by army troops. Uh and he sent it to

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00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: us here in an attachment. We have that, um, he says,

584
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: because I was writing the paper, it drew me deeper

585
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: and deeper, and I found it really fascinating. Oh. Talking

586
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: about the episode, thanks for making a great conspiracy podcast.

587
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: There are a few and far between. Very nice, sir,

588
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Thank you have a good new year. So just to

589
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: jump in this paper a little bit. He's specifically talking

590
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: about energy drinks being supplemented to keep soldiers up and

591
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: awake and alert during times that they have to be

592
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: on duty for any one reason or another. And he's

593
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: saying that this perhaps will find out later after more research,

594
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: is contributing to instances of sleep deprivation, which can then

595
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: possibly lead to a worsening of PTSD post traumatic stress disorder. Um,

596
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: that's really interesting as seeing energy drinks as a root

597
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: cause perhaps or at least it can tributing cause to

598
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: post traumatic stress. You're a bit of a caffeine guy.

599
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: I'm a fiend you. You used to drink the energy drinks,

600
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: but I don't see you with them anymore. I do

601
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: not purchase energy energy drinks anymore. If I absolutely can

602
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: stay away from them. If I'm on a long drive,

603
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: like let's see, I'm driving to go see the in

604
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: laws or something, it's like twelve hours away, I will

605
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: I'll down several. Man, they tweaked me out so bad,

606
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: like it's not pleasant at all, Like I just I

607
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: can't imagine, you know, just throwing those back for any

608
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: kind of functional purpose. But you know, I guess if

609
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: you're trying to stay away for sent period of time

610
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: or heighten your you know, acuity in a battle situation.

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00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: I guess that's one of the things he discusses in

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Speaker 1: this paper of whenever there was what is it, you

613
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: had to be a rifleman or you're you know, a

614
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: guardsman at the time, a guards person, you would supplement

615
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: with one of these just to make it happen. Even

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Speaker 1: if it was just an hour at a time where

617
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: you had to be on guard and then an hour

618
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: off and an hour back on it. You would just

619
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: take it to get you that edge, that fighting edge

620
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: is what they call it um and specifically they are

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Speaker 1: rip it r I p I T energy drinks. I

622
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: had not heard of these. You said that you see

623
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: them at like the dollar store. You can find them

624
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: now all over the place. I've seen him at gas stations.

625
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: I've seen at the dollar store. And uh what what

626
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: this former staff sergeant was saying is that they were

627
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: distributed out to the troops. You could get them. I

628
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: don't know if they called it mess hall anymore, but

629
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: you could get them wherever food was supplied to these troops,

630
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: and people would just take several of them on their way,

631
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: and they'd pack up as many as they could and

632
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: actually adding again, it doesn't seem like that significant of

633
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: a weight, but the like ten ounces or so that

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00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: a ripping energy drink. Ways you add it to your

635
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: one pound pack that you have to carry for miles

636
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: and miles in the desert. Uh, it really adds up.

637
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: But these these guys would just do it anyway because

638
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Speaker 1: the supplement helped that much. Fat sinating. Thank you so

639
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: much for sending that paper in. Uh, former staft staff

640
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: sergeant as we were calling you, Um, that was really

641
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: great and illuminating. Speaking of people writing in about our

642
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: drugs in the military episode, we have another one from

643
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: a former naval officer. Yeah, this one comes from name redacted. UM,

644
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: high conspiracy comrades. How do you like that? Name? Like it?

645
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: It goes well with our Russian hacker talk. I'm responding

646
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: to your request for military drugging. That's an interesting way

647
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: to put it. Uh, this may not fit because it's

648
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: mostly about what's really in the stuff everyone gets day

649
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: one MM. Ever, since that one girl submitted a voice memo,

650
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: I've wanted to do that because I speak much better

651
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: than I write. I hope you enjoyed the message. Ah,

652
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: he sent a voice memo to us. Very cool. Well

653
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: here is name redacted voice memo. Hey, good afternoon or

654
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: whenever you get this, Ben, Matt and Nol. You had

655
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: app to see if there was any stories that you

656
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: had about being drugged in the military. Back in two

657
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: thousand nine, I was an Officer Candidates school candidates in

658
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: the Navy O c f S class up in Newport,

659
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: Rhode Islands. I don't have any confirmed effects on any

660
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: of the drugs that they gave us when we got there. Um.

661
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: One of the things that they do for all of

662
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: the candidates and any anybody that's in any sort of

663
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: boot camp is you you get a pretty large battery

664
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: of immunizations. I mean, you figure appetitis eight. You know,

665
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: anything that they that they deemed the necessary for that

666
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: situation is given to you. And you know, you're in

667
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: a situation where you're you're you're you're working really hard

668
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: to get to this program and you're kind of out

669
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: of it your days. They didn't do it until about

670
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: the third, you know, the second or third week, which

671
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: I thought was kind of weird because why would they

672
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: do that? And you know, there was a moment where

673
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I I had my my

674
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: sleeve was up and I was just thinking, you know,

675
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm signing a piece of paper that this thing says hepatitis,

676
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know what they're putting in my arm.

677
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a syringe with you know, clear

678
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: fluid that they're putting in me. And that's it. And

679
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, there was a couple of times when I

680
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: did get some symptoms because you know, all immunizations are

681
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: or a live virus. I just thought that was kind

682
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: of crazy. And I can't attribute it to this on

683
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: a precent This is nowhere near scientific. But I will

684
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: say this is after four years of college where I

685
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: was very very confident in my in my abilities, in

686
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: my intel, in my in my intellect to do well, um,

687
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: and ever since then, including the time that I was there,

688
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: there was a lot of self doubt, um that I

689
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: had about myself. But I it was almost like there

690
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: was a switch. There was a weird part of me

691
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: that I wasn't that it died, but definitely was a

692
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: lot more. It was a lot more conscious of authority

693
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: and a lot more aware that people were closely looking

694
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: at my performance of things, and I've almost felt like

695
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: the sort of paranoia after that fact. So I think

696
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: I've definite to do with it. But I was always

697
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of weirded out by the fact that there was

698
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: no There was no bottle that I saw. I just

699
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: was given drugs in a high stress environment that I

700
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: and if I had said no, they would have set

701
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: me home, and that there It's just a weird situation

702
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: to put people in. I love the podcast I've I've

703
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: been listening to UM How Stuff Works podcasts for about

704
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: six years, but I only started listening to you guys.

705
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: I've actually ripped through all of your audio podcasts in

706
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: the last month, UM because that's like at a crazy

707
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: long commute, and I've been really enjoying them. I hope

708
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: you can either glean information from this or you know,

709
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: if you like to play clips of it from the show,

710
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: that be awesome. Anyway, thanks for the hard work, and uh,

711
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, oh man, it's hard to express how

712
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: appreciative we are. That's one would take the time to

713
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: send in one of these like not let alone record

714
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: it or no let alone listen to our show and

715
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: then want to respond enough to stop their car and

716
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: record a voice memo and send it to us. That's

717
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: that's super cool. Come on, Matt, we're great. I know,

718
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: well we're look I think we're we're pretty darn good.

719
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: But well, I I appreciate it to no end that

720
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: people want to add their two cents in and and

721
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: really contribute to the show. It's it's wonderful. So there

722
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: is something very creepy about getting a huge round of

723
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: vaccinations because you're going out to a foreign country, um,

724
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: which you have to do anytime you visit a foreign country,

725
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: or you should at least you get vaccinations for whatever

726
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: local things exists in that area. But you know, giving

727
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: these huge rounds for maybe four months in a row

728
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: where you have to get a vaccination and it's on

729
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: for something like smallpox or some remote does easy you've

730
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: never heard of, and just you have to trust that

731
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: that's what it is and that's what you're getting. And

732
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: you know, that's one of those things. Anytime you get

733
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: a substance directly into your veins, I get a little worried.

734
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: I get a little freaked out, And especially if you

735
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: have to do it like if you're in a room,

736
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: you're at boot camp or something, or you're at officer

737
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: training camp. Uh, and you're just told, look, if you

738
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: don't take these vaccinations, then goodbye. You have to do it. Yeah,

739
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: I mean, even like as a parent, like you know,

740
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: obviously I have my child vaccinated, but they want to

741
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: do so many of them all at once. That created

742
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: element freaks me out, you know, where they just want

743
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: to like do ten or twelve of them, like all

744
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: in one go, and we had to spread out a

745
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: little bit more just that we you know, had the

746
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: option of doing that. It seemed like the right choice because,

747
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, these are powerful substances that

748
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: are being shot into your body or into the body

749
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: of a of a three year old or four year old,

750
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's intense. But yeah, thank you

751
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: so much for sharing your perspective on that. Yes, and

752
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: here's the great thing, uh, former naval officer. We actually

753
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: had a former combat medic right into us, and he

754
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: has a little bit of an explanation for some of this,

755
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: or at least he has he knows what it's like

756
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: to administer vaccinations. So let's read this one from Brock

757
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: I am a former combat medic and Operation Iraqi Freedom

758
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: veteran with over three hundred combat missions under my belt. Um,

759
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: and found your episode on military drug use very interesting,

760
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: Very glad that you did. Uh these days, I am

761
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: your normal run of the mills civilian with a day job,

762
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: but my experience with third Infantry Division involved a great

763
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: deal of drugs, medications both recreational and medicinal, and vaccinations.

764
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: I hate writing long emails, however, I'd love to chat

765
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: with you guys on the topic. And well, and then

766
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: there's a phone number here. Well, uh, if you want

767
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: to give him a ring, I do, but first a

768
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: quick word from our sponsor. Hello, Oh hi, uh Brock.

769
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's me. Man. Hey, so you left us

770
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: your number. This is Matt and Nol By the way, yep,

771
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: this me No Ben. Ben couldn't make it. He's transmogrified

772
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: on the top of some mountain in Nevada right now

773
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: and playing the slots apparently. But he is here in spirit,

774
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: doesn't Yeah, then then yes he gets around. It's the

775
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: whole thing where it's my faull that's screwed up, the

776
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: ritual that we usually summon him in whatever incantations. Shman

777
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: can anyway I did. I thought I had it correct. Man,

778
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: there was one rune. He's a stickler for the runes. Um.

779
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: But you know, we're really glad we caught you because

780
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: we got quite a bunch of email about our drugs

781
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: in the military episode, and you wrote in saying that

782
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: you have had some experience as a medic uh in Iraq,

783
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 1: and we just kind of wanted to hear a little

784
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: bit about, you know, your perspective on this. One thing

785
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: that we kept seeing was um, these like energy drinks

786
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: being a huge thing. I just wanted to see what

787
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: here perspective was on that. To start off with, oh,

788
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: RiPP its that's exactly there was. There was there was

789
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: a time when I had a problem with rippets um.

790
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: That's that's a joke. I don't I don't know if

791
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: it's possible to have a problem with energy drinks. Maybe

792
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: it is, but yeah, we used to get flats of

793
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: rippets um and it's kind of like this real cheap um,

794
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: nasty knockoff energy drink um that for some reason they

795
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: even took the effort to make a sugar free version

796
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: of I never understood that, but um, they just come

797
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: in by the caseload. Uh Um. I was deployed um

798
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: from two thousand seven, uh late to late two thousand

799
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: seven on the early two thousand nine, and uh they

800
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: just ripples were everywhere. It was kind of your go

801
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: to You're working so the hours and you're constantly vigilant,

802
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: so your brain gets tired and your body is exhausted.

803
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, let's give these guys energy drinks. It

804
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: seems safer than a lot of the other drugs that

805
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: were administered to soldiers back in the day like World

806
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: War two, are going back even further. Yeah, there they

807
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: certainly weren't pumplicus full of myth. Yeah, But that being said,

808
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: wasn't there like I mean, what was your experience with

809
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, um more black market drug use and like

810
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, underground stuff like I know adderall is a

811
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: big thing. And I don't imagine that it was necessarily

812
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: sanctioned by your superiors, but I know that stuff gets around.

813
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: What was what was that like that overseas UM as

814
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: far as illegal um and black market stuff where you're

815
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: not allowed to drink um on deployment of course, you know,

816
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: can't smoke marijuana at all in the U s army UM.

817
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: And you can't do any sort of prescription drug that

818
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: you do not have a prescription for. Uh. The things

819
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: that I saw and I was, I was a combat

820
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: medic with an infantry portoon, so I was really only

821
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: around you know, forty fifty dudes, UM very consistently. UM.

822
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of guys you have to use

823
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: an adderall, and typically that would that would be one

824
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: of those things they'd write home to a buddy, hey man,

825
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: can give you some matter all. That was also over here,

826
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, and they would take that almost as like

827
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: a almost as like just pounding and rip it um

828
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: if they were really tired. You know, if you're running,

829
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, three missions a day, it just it just

830
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: wears you down. UM. I didn't really see those problems

831
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: with uh uppers like adderall or UH any form of

832
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: I guess speed whatever you wanna call it. UM. State side,

833
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: I did see uh some fruit, like a pretty good

834
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: amount of cocaine use um, and of course a lot

835
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: of alcohol and a little bit of marijuana here and there.

836
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: UM were the kind of the flavors of the day. Overseas,

837
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: we used to just make hoops, you know, get some

838
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: really nasty fruit juice from the show hall and then

839
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: get ahold of some you know wine e st off

840
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: of the Internet, and then tossing a water bottle and

841
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: burry it for three weeks and we'll talk about a

842
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: headache though, I can imagine. Yeah, the thing that really

843
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: fascinates me about all this is the idea of like,

844
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, supplementing yourself with these with these drugs and

845
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: having to keep your mind alert, you know, much more

846
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: than is humanly possible on your own. I mean, isn't

847
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: there like a burnout factor? They're like, if you're doing

848
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: this and taking these drugs, don't you eventually kind of

849
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: hit a wall? Oh yeah, oh yeah, and it's a

850
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: pretty serious wall. But luckily, I mean luckily enough, like

851
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: at least our mission uh schedule, in our mission pace, um,

852
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: we were about every i'd say every seventy two hours.

853
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: We got a good twelve hours where you were just

854
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: left alone. Um so and then and even then, if

855
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: you're even if you're pulling q r F dut um,

856
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: you're you've got you got time to relax unless you

857
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: get called up what r D Oh, I'm sorry, that's

858
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: a quick reactionary force. That was basically, uh uh, they

859
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: set aside a platoon or maybe two platoons, a company

860
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: if it's you know, a really really large area of operations. Um.

861
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: But what it is is they'll just basically put these

862
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: guys aside and keep them a hund percent and ready

863
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: to roll. Like you're just you're just ready to go.

864
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: You don't need a mission brief, you just need a destination.

865
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: Get there as fast as possible, all the trucks in line,

866
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, everything ready to go in case either there

867
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: there's contact, whether it's an I E. D. And who

868
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: had the unit they got hit and needs support or

869
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: uh if you know, someone takes contact and they need

870
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, they need backup, and you're calling QRF, And

871
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: that's what QRF is. It's just quick reactionary force. But

872
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: most of the time you're on q r F, you're

873
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: either playing access and allies or taking an app One

874
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: last thing, man, I know, you gotta go, Brock. We

875
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: don't want to keep you for too long. But we

876
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: had another listener right in about vaccinations that he got

877
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: while he was an officer training school, and he you know,

878
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: we we thought that since you were a former combat medic,

879
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: I know, it's completely different branches of the military. But

880
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: just give a little insight about what it was like

881
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: administering these vaccinations to other truths and and how people react,

882
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: like what are the people's concerns and things like that. Um, well,

883
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: people have the obvious concerns. Um. The thing about being

884
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: a soldiers you don't really have the option to say

885
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: no unless you're being told to do something that is

886
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: indirect contradiction to the law. Um. But with vaccinations, it's

887
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. It's like, sorry, just came down,

888
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: you gotta take it. Fortunately for me, UM, and I

889
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: know a lot how do people do this? It's kind

890
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: of I wouldn't say a tradition in thatt com but

891
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: I would definitely say it it goes goes down a lot. Um.

892
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: But I was very, very wary and concerned about out,

893
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: uh just putting any sort of random uh drug into

894
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: my body, not knowing what it was, not hearing about

895
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: the clinical trials, not learning how the drug works, I mean,

896
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: and so I would just I would just fabricate it

897
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: in my medical records because I had access to my

898
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: medical records. I had access to my platoons medical records,

899
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: and uh through a software called med pro is kind

900
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: of the U. S. Army. That's basically how they track

901
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: everyone's medical records. And if you don't want to take

902
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: an immunization and you have access to it, it's just

903
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: as easy to go in there and say, yeah, I

904
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: took it and you never took it. Um. The ones

905
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: that that my Joe's really really worried about were things

906
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: like the anthrax UH vaccination and probably in a smallpox

907
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: really bothered guys, But I think that's just kind of

908
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: the small pox vaccination the way it works is a

909
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: little bit gruesome. You know, you get a little pussy

910
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: scab and it uses and it's real gross. So I

911
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: think there was there was that concern for them, but

912
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: most of the time it was like, wait, what are

913
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: you giving me? Why do I have to get this?

914
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: Like you just give me this shot? Um that kind

915
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: of thing. But they don't have the option to say no.

916
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a lawful order, you gotta do it. Yeah,

917
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: that seems to be the biggest issue, like you're getting

918
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: this too bad and if you don't have access to

919
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: those medical records, then you better make friends or there

920
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: was no there was some of those some of these vaccinations.

921
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: There was no way I was letting them put it

922
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: in my body. No way. Well man, first of all,

923
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your service and you know,

924
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: being out there and taking care of those folks and

925
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: it's a fantastic thing. Really glad to be able to

926
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: talk to you and be thank you so much for

927
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: talking with us and giving us a little inside scoop

928
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: and some of this stuff. Of course, guys, um really

929
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: love the podcast. Keep up the good work. I think

930
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm just excited about talking to you guys as I

931
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: am as being called Brock nice. Look at you. It's

932
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: a pretty solid alias. So let's switch gears and look

933
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: at a couple more of these. We're going to James,

934
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: who says, I was wondering why you don't do more

935
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: shows during the week. Is it only Fridays. Let's address

936
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: that really fast. We are only doing one show a

937
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: week for the foreseeable future. But you know it is

938
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: our desire to up that. It's just a matter of resources.

939
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: And you know, we all wear a lot of hats

940
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: here in our office. Uh you know Fedora's top hats.

941
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: I've got one of those stove pipe Uh. You know

942
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: Fagin from Oliver hats that I wear and got the

943
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: fingerless gloves to go along with it, by an Emperor's

944
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: new hat and not see it, got a Kaiser hat

945
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: with a spike on it. But yeah, I mean, if

946
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: we can get some other people to maybe wear some

947
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: of those hats for us so we don't have to

948
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: wear them all at the same time, it's very unwieldy.

949
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: We could maybe start to do in two a week. Well,

950
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, would you guys be into that? Yeah, if

951
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: you're interested, we certainly are. So please let us know.

952
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter and Facebook and blah

953
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: blah blah. We'll get it that later. But you know,

954
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: you can also write us an email. Let's get back

955
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: to James. He says, I wanted to ask if you've

956
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: heard of the alleged aliens stuff into your rock. There

957
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: is a big conspiracy about perhaps that's why America went

958
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: there in the first place. I don't know if you've

959
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: already done a show on this or not. Thanks keep

960
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: up the good work. Well, James, I gotta tell you, buddy,

961
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: I did not know there was alien stuff in Iraq,

962
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: and I'm going to look that up and uh, I

963
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: will get back to you that's a lot in Iraq

964
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: and being that somewhat desert, Like, okay, that's almost well.

965
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the cradle of civilization where humanity

966
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: got its start. Perhaps there was early influence with extraterrestrial species,

967
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: ancient aliens. Maybe there's that whole History Channel show. I mean,

968
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: come on, there's also a show on Vice where Action

969
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: Bronson the rapper as former former chef, where him and

970
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: his buddies just smoked a bunch of weed in front

971
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: of a green screen and watch Ancient Aliens. No, it's

972
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: like Ancient Aliens commentary with a rapper slash. Melissa as

973
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: is on one and that she was getting getting little tipsy.

974
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It's a Brave New World. It sounds

975
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: like they should combine that with Snoop Dogg's show that

976
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: he has where he just watches internet clips. You know,

977
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: he's got a new show with Martha Stewart. Did you

978
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: know that he does. He does their buddies. It's like

979
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: a like a kind of a d I y craft

980
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: show needs they have guests and they do crafts together.

981
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, Brave New World, but we're living in

982
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: the future American dream um now. But speaking of aliens,

983
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: an article popped up this morning on the Huffington's Post.

984
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: The articles called groundbreaking UFO video just released by Chilean

985
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: Navy UM, and it's a pretty in depth article, UH,

986
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: with an accompanying video clip showing infrared photography of what

987
00:54:54,520 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: appears to be these kind of two conjoined spheres that

988
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: are kind of joined by uh, like almost like a

989
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: tube in the middle, and it's definitely moving and they

990
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: look like the clouds and at some point, I think

991
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: it even ejects some material. Yeah, it ejects at to

992
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: two points materials from the back that are hot, at

993
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: least compared to the aircraft itself. Because it's, like you said,

994
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: it's infrared. It's an infrared camera that's looking at this,

995
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: So all the hot stuff is black or darker. And

996
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: then as it gets warmer or excuse me, as it

997
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: gets colder, it gets lighter. As you're watching this video clip,

998
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: if you want to watch it, UM, it's fascinating. It

999
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: looks like the afterburners of let's I don't know, and

1000
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: F fourteen F fifteen, maybe these large hots uh spheres

1001
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: if you will, that are going like you're looking at

1002
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: the back side of a military plane, but it doesn't

1003
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: seem to be what it is because according to the

1004
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: Chilean Navy that nobody could see it on radar. Even

1005
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: the helicopter that was filming the whole thing couldn't see

1006
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: whatever aircraft this was on radar. They couldn't make contact

1007
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: with the thing. It appeared to be had maneuvering abilities,

1008
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: so it wasn't just going in a straight line or anything.

1009
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: And again it like you said, it ejected twice some material. Yeah,

1010
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: when you look at it on the on the infrared um,

1011
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: it gets darker. It's like darker the farther back it gets,

1012
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: which I think isn't that weird. I would think it

1013
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: would be hotter's close to to the aircraft, especially if

1014
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: it's in from engine, like some kind of engine, some

1015
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: sort of heat source or something like that. But it's

1016
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: interesting because like as it goes a pretty decent distance,

1017
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: it like the color lightens um in the direction of

1018
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: the aircraft, so it's actually hotter the farther away, which

1019
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: I thought was a little strange. And it's obviously not

1020
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: a heavy substance or a substance that it's aerosolized, right,

1021
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: because it just float. It doesn't fall, like if you're

1022
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: rejecting wastewater or something, it would just fall. Maybe it's

1023
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: a camp trail. Perhaps that's exactly what it is. Just

1024
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: for a little more context. Has happened in November of

1025
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: November when it was actually filmed, and there were experts

1026
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: looking at this for quite a while, over two years,

1027
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: and they finally made it public. Fascinating. One last thing,

1028
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: this does come from a Huffington Post article. And as

1029
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: we know when we learned from our fake news, you've

1030
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: gotta be really careful when you're reading anything that's uh

1031
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: based on what is the user created kind of thing

1032
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: where you can submit anything like medium dot com. Just

1033
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: you just really have to be careful, make sure you

1034
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: check the sources. And this article does a pretty good

1035
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: job of looking at several different sources. Although I'm not

1036
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: seeing any official links two the Chilean story, at least

1037
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing it immediately as I'm scrolling through the article.

1038
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk bad about it before I

1039
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: get there. I don't see any hyperlinks out to the

1040
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: Chilean government's response. I see quotes, let's keep ch let's

1041
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: keep an eye on it. No, no, no, no, I

1042
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: see some links. Hold on, Oh no, never mind, let's

1043
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: just just a link to their actual official website, but

1044
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: not not to a to a statement or anything like that. Um,

1045
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: there's a link to the actual webcam. I think it's

1046
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: interesting to follow. Um it just came up today. And

1047
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: y'all out there, if you get a chance to check

1048
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: it out and let us know what you think, and

1049
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: let's keep an eye on. And absolutely, did I ever

1050
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: tell you about the the UFO that I saw? Yeah?

1051
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: I think I maybe did. I was. I was on

1052
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: touring with a band, uh years ago, and we were

1053
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: driving through, um, the Midwest, and we were in Illinois.

1054
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: I remember being surrounded by corn fields. That is a thing.

1055
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: There's okay, this sounds familiar everywhere. And I saw this.

1056
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: I had it. Sounds like total b s when I

1057
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: say this, but I had it on video. Um, but

1058
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: I lost the tape. I had a bunch of was

1059
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: back in the day of little DV tapes. And anyway,

1060
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: it looked kind of like a kite, but the way

1061
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: it was moving and the you know, altitude of it

1062
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: could not have possibly been. And when I say it

1063
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: look like I guess that's you know, sort of pyramid

1064
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: shaped almost um and it just it had a very other,

1065
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: unearthly kind of movement to it, like the physics of

1066
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: it was very strange. And didn't feel like he was

1067
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: getting pushed around by the air. No, no, and and

1068
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: it was very very odd thing to have seen. And uh,

1069
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: I really wish I had that tape still, I wish

1070
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: I experienced that with you. Dang, Why didn't we meet earlier?

1071
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: There's still time, there's more UFOs to be seen. Oh, excellent, excellent.

1072
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: That is good to know. Our next message comes from Sean.

1073
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: Sean says, I'm currently working my way through your backlog.

1074
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I've come across anything about Dr Seby,

1075
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: the self appointed expert on herbology, medicine and I guess

1076
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: also a dietician who claimed to have found the cure

1077
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: for AIDS, WOW, cancer and an assortment of other illnesses.

1078
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: It says he quote mysteriously unquote died while in Honduras

1079
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: from Onya when he was a d two. Well, he

1080
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: was eighty two and he got pneumonia. Not throwing salt

1081
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: on that, but uh, you know, Okay and his followers

1082
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: believe it was an assassination because his findings would bring

1083
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: down Big Pharma. There's also claims that Magic Johnson uses

1084
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: Dr Seby's methods and has cured himself. Oh all right, huh.

1085
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: I thought this would be a great subject for you guys.

1086
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: If you haven't touched on it yet, that's fascinating, Sean.

1087
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Dr Seby, but I guarantee

1088
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: you I am looking that up right now. Nor do

1089
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: you have anything on Dr Seby. I don't know about

1090
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: no Dr Sebby. All right, Well, it's happening right after

1091
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: we finished this episode, sir, speaking of which I think

1092
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: we have a couple left we want to get to

1093
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: before we scoot on out of here into the impending

1094
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: snow mcgeddon and then in Atlanta where we are is

1095
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: is about to experience. I'm kind of looking forward to it, man,

1096
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: But you'm already feeling like it's happening around us. I

1097
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: was looking at radar earlier and watching the cloud coverage

1098
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: come through and the rain the mix it was turning

1099
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: purple bluish purple on the radar from weather dot Com,

1100
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: and that that always freaks me out. I'm looking forward

1101
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: to a couple of days. Hold up with my fallout.

1102
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: Uh God, forbid. We lose power, I will be enraged.

1103
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: You can get a battery backup or maybe a generator

1104
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, I have a battery backup, but those

1105
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: don't last very long. Get a generator, dude, just isn't diesel.

1106
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm there's a generator. Some milk and some bread, that's right,

1107
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: and some eggs now, yeah, okay, eggs are good, good eggs.

1108
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: Already got eggs. Okay, you're good to go. Then let's

1109
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: knock these out. And whiskey. I got whiskey, buddy, Oh,

1110
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: I got whiskey. Whiskey for days. Um, so we've got

1111
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: one here from Jimmy Kay. He would very much like

1112
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: it if we could dedicate an episode two Valiant thor Um.

1113
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: I saw that and thought it was some sort of

1114
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: uh offshoot of the superhero comic thor Uh. Not the

1115
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: case at all. He finds him intriguing, as do why,

1116
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: but there's not much info out there on him. See

1117
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: what you can do is work your magic for me,

1118
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: your biggest fan from Australia. Um, you know a little

1119
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: bit about this Valiant thor fellow, don't you. Mat We've

1120
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: spoken about him on this show before mentioned here there

1121
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: there's this guy who wrote a book named Dr Frank E.

1122
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: Strange Is. The book is titled Stranger at the Pentagon,

1123
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: and that appears to be where most of the stories

1124
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: about Valiant Thor come from. And it's this guy who

1125
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: perhaps was an extraterrestrial who was hanging out with the

1126
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: upper echelons of the United States government, either helping them

1127
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: out with technology, helping them out in other ways, like

1128
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: an insider essentially from some extraterrestrial race. Perhaps fascinating story.

1129
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: If you want to learn about it, immediately head on

1130
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: over to the website of those conspiracy guys. They make

1131
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: a show about conspiracies, obviously, and they're fantastic and hilarious,

1132
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: and they've got a little right up on it that

1133
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: you can check out if you want to get some

1134
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: more sources and then just dig deep into this thing

1135
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: and then perhaps in the future we will also cover

1136
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: it valiantly. Yes, so we got one here from Helen. Hey, guys,

1137
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say you're awesome. Helen. You're awesome

1138
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: for saying we're awesome. I have never been much into conspiracy,

1139
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: but I have enjoyed learning from you all. I respect

1140
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 1: very deeply that you start with the facts and then

1141
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: about your own opinions. Um. And the sign of a

1142
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: great intellectual is that he can he or she can

1143
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: present facts and opinions as separate. I have been so

1144
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: inspired by your work and look forward to every episode.

1145
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,959
Speaker 1: And live in Athens, Athens, Georgia, Rathens, Greece. I don't

1146
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: know I live in Athens. I don't know if you

1147
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: travel up that way much. Oh, she's gotta be it's Georgia. Yeah,

1148
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: I I used to live there as well. A home

1149
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: of go dogs. That's a right, Yeah, yeah, you g um.

1150
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a free place to stay

1151
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: anytime you want to come crash. And then she hit

1152
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: us with her Twitter handle. I've been wanting to request

1153
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: a shout out forever since you first started them. Yes,

1154
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: I've been listening forever. That's awesome, but wanted to have

1155
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: a show idea to include, and she has two for us.

1156
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: One hollow Moon spaceship. I just heard this theory on

1157
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: the History Channel, The idea that the Moon didn't get

1158
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: there in the ways that we've projected throughout the years,

1159
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: all the various models of how the Moon formed with

1160
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: collisions with different planets, but in fact, various Jesus collided,

1161
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: But in fact it is a spaceship or some some

1162
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: type of made object that is in fact hollow, and

1163
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: it was put there on purpose to create the tide

1164
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: the title flow, put there on purpose to uh and

1165
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: exactly where it is, like its locations so that the

1166
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: eclipses match up perfectly and all this stuff. Um, it

1167
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: was there to make the Earth livable as a planet.

1168
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 1: Fascinating ideas where I'm not sure about the validity. I'm well,

1169
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm unless say, I'm not certain about the validity of them,

1170
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: but in this world. But it's fascinating and we should

1171
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: look into this. Number two idea from Helen GMOs great one.

1172
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: Theoretically modified organisms. Yeah, there have been all sorts of

1173
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: experiments proving they are terrible for you. Why are they

1174
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: still around? What's the deal? I have a book on

1175
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: the subject, Altered Jeans, Twisted Truths. I'd love for y'all

1176
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: to have it. I'd drop it by the studio if

1177
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: you say you wanted it, that's very kind. Well, you

1178
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: can certainly shoot it to us in the mail, or

1179
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: just good, you know, make us some photo copies, keep

1180
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: your book. Either way. Yeah, we'll take it. It sounds

1181
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: like a great topic. And we have the names. Yeah,

1182
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: we have the title. We can look into it as well.

1183
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: And also maybe we'll see you in Athens. Every once

1184
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: in a while we head up that way. I should

1185
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: do a hang out. Maybe maybe we get some other

1186
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: folks in Athens. Let's go to the Georgia Theater. Yeah,

1187
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: rent the thing out. Georgia Theater is cool. It's you know,

1188
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: been renovated in the last handful of years. It's pretty

1189
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: gorgeous now it's got it burned and yeah, I haven't

1190
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: been there since. It took a lot of the reclaimed

1191
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: wood and made the new bars and you know, a

1192
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: lot of the coutrement, as the Winnebago man would say.

1193
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: And it's a very very cool place. Great, it sounds

1194
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: some great place to see a show. Highly recommended. Um,

1195
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: I think we got one left man for one more

1196
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna before we venture out into the

1197
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: snowy armageddon that lays before us. Yeah, we have to escape, dude,

1198
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: I have to go north on the highway. Oh boy,

1199
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: poor devil. All right, let's find out what happens. Last

1200
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: one comes from Eric. Eric says several years ago there

1201
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: was a Pentagon official found dumped in a landfill. I

1202
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: remember this. I remember this, Uh John P. Wheeler, the

1203
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: third was his name. Actually, his body was spotted as

1204
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: it was dumped. This happened in Delaware. I remember seeing

1205
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: it on the news as my wife and I were

1206
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: eating lunch. Let's see, the story died off pretty quickly,

1207
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: but I recall there being video evidence of him in

1208
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: a parking garage. It was a security camera and this

1209
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: was the last evidence of this person ever being seen.

1210
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: The parking attendant at the booth. Remember that the man

1211
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: was talking about someone being after him. He had one

1212
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: shoe on and one in his hand, and he was

1213
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: speaking frantically. The next day or maybe two days later,

1214
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: there are a lot of blackbirds that began falling from

1215
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: the sky here in Arkansas. The following day. After that,

1216
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: there were also very a very large amount of drum

1217
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: fish which washed up dead. Now, from what I've read,

1218
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: this official had caught wind of an experiment that was

1219
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: to take place with releasing chemical agents over the center

1220
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: of the US, hence Arkansas and Missouri. The experiment was

1221
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: so alarming that this official was threatening to go public

1222
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: with knowledge about it, and maybe this is why he

1223
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: was killed. I would love to see what evidence you

1224
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: guys can come up with in regards to this story.

1225
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: Perhaps it goes hand in hand with the chem Trails episode. Oh, Eric,

1226
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: you've piqued my interests. I remember very well the story

1227
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: of John P. Wheeler, and I actually put it down

1228
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: in this uh set of bookmarked links that I've collected

1229
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: over the years where something happens and then as the

1230
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, the week of stories unfolds, you just put

1231
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: it away and you don't even remember that this thing happened. Um,

1232
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: but it's been a while since I've even looked at it,

1233
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: and I don't know what else has come from it.

1234
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: John P. Wheeler The third I believe is this guy's name.

1235
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Eric, I'm going to look into

1236
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: this personally. Noel, you're gonna help me out, Okay, Well, Ben,

1237
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: Ben's got my back. As soon as soon as he

1238
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: rematerializes back in the studio, we're gonna look into Mr Wheeler.

1239
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I am going to make a super

1240
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: cut of every time you say the word fascinating in

1241
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: this episode. God, did I say it a thousand times?

1242
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. We had a lot of fascinating stories. I

1243
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: overuse words. We all do. We all have our our

1244
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: crutch words. It's it's a it's the new year. I

1245
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: don't want to say interesting because I get I I've

1246
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: been tating is an escalation of interesting, you know, like

1247
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: fascinating is like the next level. It's okay, So just

1248
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: replace in your minds all the times I said fascinating,

1249
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: or at least, let's say one third, if not two

1250
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: thirds of the time, with other words that are better,

1251
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: that are in your head. Maybe we can use our

1252
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: new dynamic ad insertion system too. Every time you say

1253
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: the word fascinating, it plays an AD. I hope not.

1254
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: Please don't do that. By the way, we hope you're

1255
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: enjoying your targeted ads. Yeah it's hey, I think it's

1256
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool and the technology is actually really

1257
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: really interesting. Um, but you know, we gotta pay the bills,

1258
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: that's right. Luckily, we we do have a handful of

1259
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: good sponsors, including our buddies that Illumination Global Nlimited, who

1260
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: hopefully are going to get in on the game again

1261
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: real soon. Um, you know that you're not gonna have

1262
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: to always hear you know, furniture store ads. So a

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Speaker 1: huge thanks to Stony, Phil, Benjamin s U, Joshua, let's

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Speaker 1: see the former staff sergeant, the former naval officer Brock.

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Speaker 1: Big thanks to Brock. Yes we've got James, Sean, Jimmy, Kay, Helen, Eric, huge,

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Speaker 1: huge thank you to all of you and anyone else

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Speaker 1: who has written in if we're terribly sorry if you

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Speaker 1: didn't get to your message in this round, but we

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Speaker 1: will get there as soon as possible. Thank you so much. Now,

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Speaker 1: if any of you out there listening want to add

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Speaker 1: your your thoughts to the conversation that we've been having

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Speaker 1: here and that we have every week on this show,

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Speaker 1: Conspiracy Stuff Show. We're working on getting Instagram famous like

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Speaker 1: those cats. Oh yeah, what what what are those cats?

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Speaker 1: There's just Instagram famous cats. Okay, alright, cool, yeah, just

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Speaker 1: like those cats that were well on our way to

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Speaker 1: do that. Uh. If you don't want to do any

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Speaker 1: of that stuff, you can be like your fellow listeners.

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Speaker 1: You can send us your telephone number, which is a

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Speaker 1: new thing. Actually, funds have been around for quite some time. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, But sending the telephone number in

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Speaker 1: a mail to us is definitely new. You can make

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Speaker 1: a voice recording like one of the other folks this week,

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Speaker 1: or you can just send us a message, you know,

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Speaker 1: with a suggestion, with comments, with criticisms, whatever you got.

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Speaker 1: If you want to just talk, send them to us.

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Speaker 1: All of our best suggestions come from you, or comments,

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Speaker 1: any of that kind of channeling. Ben, I'm trying. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to channel Ben right now. I'm feeling it. How

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Speaker 1: kind of it doesn't mess you up the way it

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Speaker 1: does me? Well, you can see it in my eyes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can tell around my eyes

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Speaker 1: that's where it really focus. Okay, yeah, I just you

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Speaker 1: know it. It rex me every time. Man, it's I

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Speaker 1: have to die dial little inside. Well, that's just the

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Speaker 1: price that we pay to have that type of power

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Speaker 1: around us. That's true. So hit us up with that

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Speaker 1: email box that we were just beating around the bush

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Speaker 1: at It is conspiracy at how stuff works dot com.