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Speaker 1: Previously on Weedian House.

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Speaker 2: We provide these really delicious, wholesome, nutritious meal and we

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Speaker 2: make sure that there's dignity and choice, so we offer

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Speaker 2: options so that people can choose. And unfortunately we're still

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Speaker 2: like doing a to go service, but we traditionally used

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Speaker 2: to do a sit down meal, which is what we're

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Speaker 2: hoping to get back to do.

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Speaker 3: Whereas then my organization, because food was like coming into

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Speaker 3: our program through all these other organizations, we were able

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Speaker 3: to start collecting all those food resources. Our volunteers were

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Speaker 3: sitting there just like calling every single program and saying.

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Speaker 4: Are you open, what are your hours?

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Speaker 3: Who are you serving?

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Speaker 5: What are you serving?

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Speaker 3: Because that is our power.

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Speaker 5: That is what we can do.

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Speaker 3: Activating a community of neighbors to collect information and share

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Speaker 3: information is what we do.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to Weedi in House. I'm your host, Theo Henderson.

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Speaker 6: This episode covers a lot of ground from forty one

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Speaker 6: to eighteen, an unhoused veterans story and a community fridge

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Speaker 6: to address food insecurity, but first Unhoused News. This week,

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Speaker 6: we're in the field addressing an issue that is a

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Speaker 6: crucial to the unhoused community in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: The crucial issue is forty one to eighteen.

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Speaker 6: For our newer listeners, forty one eighteen has been the

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Speaker 6: lynchpin to criminalizing and erasing the unhoused community. Most recently,

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Speaker 6: it has been utilized to attack people protesting ICE. However,

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Speaker 6: its primary aim is to target the unhoused community living

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Speaker 6: on the.

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Speaker 1: Sidewalks of the city. Why now.

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Speaker 6: The answer to that question is because the election season

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Speaker 6: is underway. One of the candidates campaign on this very topic.

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Speaker 6: Hugo sold Martinez ran his campaign against forty one eighteen

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Speaker 6: and was vital in injecting one of forty one eighteen's

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Speaker 6: key orchestrators, former council Member Mitchell O'Farrell.

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Speaker 1: Council member o'pharaoh.

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Speaker 6: Weaponized the ordinance to evict the unhoused community living at

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Speaker 6: Echo Park Lake. During Mitchell Farrell's time in office, utilized

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Speaker 6: many violent tactics to try deject unhouse residents from Echo

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Speaker 6: Park Lake. Weedi and House covered many direct actions against

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Speaker 6: revamping forty one eighteen and targeting the unhoused community.

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Speaker 7: Eco Park is a family in the community ever since

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Speaker 7: I grew up.

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Speaker 1: That's how it's mainly that Fara's going to be. Echo

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Speaker 1: Park is a Saint Heyvid.

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Speaker 8: It's a place where no matter what happens, who you are,

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Speaker 8: where you come from, what gender.

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Speaker 9: You are, if you're white, you're lat you're Hispanic, you're aging, unty.

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Speaker 4: Does it matter?

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Speaker 2: You need help at the park.

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Speaker 5: That's what it's known for her.

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Speaker 10: That's community, that's family noticing people without telling them what

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Speaker 2: I'm not telling you, promising you things that they're not

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Speaker 1: We're not a pond in a chess game.

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Speaker 5: Echo Park who Longlinier.

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Speaker 1: And refused this to be applied. You want to reside

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Speaker 1: in Eco Clark game.

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Speaker 4: You want to use Echo Park to bushie publicity was

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Speaker 4: the angry, socially high up.

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Speaker 6: It all came to a head about five years ago

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Speaker 6: on March twenty four of twenty twenty one, when the

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Speaker 6: police pushed the unhoused community out of Echo Park Lake.

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Speaker 6: Enter Hugo Soda Martinez, the darling of DSA LA. He

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Speaker 6: platformed dismantling forty one eighteen and has spoken out against

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Speaker 6: being elected, Hugo Soda Martinez has utilized forty one eighteen

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Speaker 6: to criticism of his policies before now, which brings us

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Speaker 6: to this present moment. Mutual Laid organizers from across the city,

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Speaker 6: many of whom helped Hugo get elected, came to speak

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Speaker 6: with Hugo and share a list of demands on February

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Speaker 6: twenty first, twenty twenty six, in Echo Park. Here is

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Speaker 6: a form of letter to council Member Hugo Sodo Martinez.

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Speaker 6: You have been outspoken about federal agents invading our city

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Speaker 6: and kidnapping our neighbors forced to choose between going to

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Speaker 6: and unhoused. We are urgently calling on you to protect

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Speaker 6: your most vulnerable constituents. Repeal the forty one to eighteen

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Speaker 6: Mitchell Ferrell. Every day that you refuse to take this action,

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Speaker 6: you are aiding. During your inaugural campaign, you vocally criticize

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Speaker 6: in public enforcement of LAMC Forty one eighteen exposes vulnerable

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Speaker 6: risk of deportation. LAPD regularly uses forty one eighteen to

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Speaker 6: destroy people's shelter, phones, and PaperWorks, turning documented people into

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Speaker 6: undocumented people. You have spoken out about ICE targeting people

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Speaker 6: know that ICE has kidnapped people from en campus in

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Speaker 6: your district, you must take immediate.

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Speaker 1: Action to protect them.

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Speaker 6: At a recent sweep in your district, your homelessness deputy

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Speaker 6: Carlos Castro defended forty one eights enforcement. He argues that

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Speaker 6: espoused by Mitch O'Farrell. It is also what disgraced former

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Speaker 6: La City Council President Newari Martinez was caught saying on

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Speaker 6: the tape that publicly out of her as a racist.

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Speaker 6: When we understand white supremacy as a system that also

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Speaker 6: We can understand forty one eighteen as a two that

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Speaker 6: can be used to erase immigrant and houses population, including

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Speaker 6: their children from Los Angeles. Even Donald Trump's former Border

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Speaker 6: Patrol commander, Gregory Bovino, cited La City laws to justify

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Speaker 6: the kidnapping of street vendors from our sidewalks. Any council

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Speaker 6: person that defends forty one eighteen is also defending the

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Speaker 6: legal and social apparatus that make family separation possible.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 6: During your campaign, you directly compare forty one eighteen to

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Speaker 6: racist stop and frisk laws because the ordinance gives LAPD

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Speaker 6: in public with fines up to twenty five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: You were right. This law is racist and harmful.

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Speaker 6: According to data from La City Controller can of Mahere's

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Speaker 6: forty one eighteen recent arrest dashboard, forty one to eighteen

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Speaker 6: arrests increased five hundred and twenty two percent in your

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Speaker 6: district during your first year at office. Why won't you

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Speaker 6: rebuild these zones in your district? You dependably voted against

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Speaker 6: forty one eighteen zones and other council districts, but you've

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Speaker 6: done nothing to combat the rampant criminalization and displacement in

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Speaker 6: your own. Your failure to take meaningful action against forty

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Speaker 6: one eighteen has normalized a violent status quo. Enforcement of

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Speaker 6: twenty one eighteen doesn't stop with criminalization of unhoused people.

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Speaker 6: LAPD has repeatedly used forty one eighteen to arrest protesters,

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Speaker 6: including anti its organizers. Your failure to fight back will

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Speaker 6: only lead to exhif expansion. The nineteen eighty four Olympics

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Speaker 6: spurred widespread displacement, policing the vulnerable communities, and mass incarceration

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Speaker 6: in Los Angeles. Officials have already released a report detailing

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Speaker 6: similar plans for the twenty twenty eight Olympics. The National

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Speaker 6: Special Security Event Designation will provide ice with unfettered access

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Speaker 6: to the city, allowing them to remove any person deemed undesirable.

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Speaker 1: LAPD will eminently use twenty one eighteen to do the same.

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Speaker 6: If you fail to take action, we envision an in

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Speaker 6: Los Angeles where no person is criminalized based on their

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Speaker 6: immigration on housing status, in Los Angeles, where the city

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Speaker 6: doesn't destroy vulnerable people's documents, life saving medicines, and survival

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Speaker 6: supplies on a daily basis in Los Angeles, where seven

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Speaker 6: unhoused people don't die every day, in Los Angeles, where

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Speaker 6: people can't be violently displaced on a whim that Los

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Speaker 6: Angeles requires you and other council members who campaign against

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Speaker 6: forty one eighteen to stop cowering and lead by example.

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Speaker 6: You wield in immen's political power, use it to protect

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Speaker 6: your most vulnerable constituents against ice. At LAPD, stand on

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Speaker 6: the right side of history, stand with the people. We

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Speaker 6: demand your written commitment to repeal all of Mitchell FERAOHS

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Speaker 6: forty one eighteen special enforcement zones in Council thirteen within

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Speaker 6: three working days. If you do not respond, we will

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Speaker 6: take further action. And there's a list of people that

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Speaker 6: have signed this letter, starting with Seventh Street Collective, A

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Speaker 6: Camp Library at the Street Solidary, All People's Health Collective,

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Speaker 6: All People Free Clinic, Casa Le Mariposas Chinatown Community for

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Speaker 6: Ecuitover Development, Color the Water Community, Loving Community, Solidarity Project,

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Speaker 6: US Hope Street Distrue, Jtown Action of Solidarity, LA Food

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Speaker 6: Not Bombs, LA Street Care, Mutual Aid Lost Journalists, Tennis Unit,

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Speaker 6: All People's Care, Collective, People's City Council, People Struggle for

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Speaker 6: San Fernando Valley, Polist, Pantry, Poort Magazine, RVTV, The Rent Brigade,

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Speaker 6: Lives Will Packing mutual Aid. Next, we'll speak with another

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Speaker 6: activist on the scene, Gina Viola. We are at the

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Speaker 11: Hi Theo, I'm so happy to be with you again

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Speaker 11: and this group that has shown up today to demand

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Speaker 11: that very easy demand. Actually, this is what Ugo campaigned on.

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Speaker 11: He campaigned on repealing forty one eighteen zones that Mitchell

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Speaker 11: quintupled down five times the number of forty one eighteen

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Speaker 4: So we're really just asking.

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Speaker 11: Him while he's campaigning again to keep his campaign promise

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Speaker 11: big lift. What I find most disturbing about today are

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Speaker 11: aware of. You know, folks who say they're an expert

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Speaker 11: like ground Game, who wouldn't participate with us today on

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Speaker 6: I think you know, it's also, I pointed out in

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Speaker 6: the conversations, more of a grander expansive conversation, not just

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Speaker 6: the international stage. For example, I've recently seen people going

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Speaker 6: because it's the one that that's more visible. But we

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Speaker 6: three unhoused people die today.

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Speaker 1: We are now up to seven unhoused.

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Speaker 11: People today, nine in the county, nine in the county

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Speaker 6: And this is the issue that slowly and it doesn't

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Speaker 6: same kind of motion. For example, when we did recently

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Speaker 11: And my biggest complaint now is that she's taking folks

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Speaker 11: We need those Hollywood beds for folks in Hollywood. We

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Speaker 4: My folks at Africa Town?

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Speaker 6: So let's even be more clear because for people that

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Speaker 11: For always I would always see in fact, in the

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Speaker 4: The folks I've seen more often than not get housed

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Speaker 11: The ones that get into transitional housing do the work

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Speaker 11: So there is a preferential treatment even in that regard,

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Speaker 11: which is why we allow skid row to exist, because

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Speaker 11: the goal is to push everybody back to skid row,

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Speaker 11: to hide them before the World Cup, to hide them

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Speaker 11: will take you seriously. When you finish those graffiti towers downtown,

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Speaker 11: We have solutions. We have a lot of empty buildings

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Speaker 11: It could take a year. I mean, honestly, if the

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Speaker 11: You know, you could just give a third of those people,

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Speaker 11: houseless folks know what they need. You need to start

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Speaker 6: Well, the first thing that most whole houseless people who

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Speaker 1: That's the thing.

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Speaker 6: You know, if you were really concerned about houselessness, you

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Speaker 6: What they worry about is false promises, temporary solutions that

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Speaker 1: You get them to.

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Speaker 6: Give up all of the stuff that they use for

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Speaker 1: Them out after the term expires, and now they got

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Speaker 6: So they lose faith and hope, which is why many

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Speaker 11: Many a times, alway, that's right, transitional housing for a

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Speaker 11: there's one security guard.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 11: Karen Bass and others like to assert that there's you know,

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Speaker 11: services provided at these locations. I'm here to tell you

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Speaker 11: It's one seventeen dollars an hour security guard. You know,

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Speaker 11: they're not allowed to use the phone, they're not allowed

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Speaker 11: the rules are made so that they can get kicked

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Speaker 11: people on a path to housing. Even to the tune

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Speaker 4: Like this is impossible. It's an impossible scenario and again

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Speaker 11: Can you imagine if we had drop in centers with

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Speaker 11: how many people have untreated illnesses on the street. And now,

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Speaker 11: with medical being so complicated, I can't just take somebody

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Speaker 1: Let me introduce you something.

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Speaker 6: Did you know that this AI is being used to

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Speaker 11: So is that the data collection that they're doing to

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, this is a This isn't

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Speaker 11: Wrong with just about everything? I mean, my goodness, one

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Speaker 4: I bet they don't even ask about interaction with law enforcement.

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Speaker 6: I mean, but here is even on a medical on

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Speaker 6: you know, it is very important. Some things that could

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Speaker 11: The group of people that are here, you your your podcast,

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Speaker 4: We know that that's what's coming.

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Speaker 11: They're going to have warehouses where they say this is

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Speaker 4: They're going to couch it in care.

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Speaker 11: They're going to pretend because there are enough of us

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Speaker 11: use technology to do that. You're right, they're going to

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Speaker 11: again I drive out to Palmdale just to see because

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Speaker 9: What's going on.

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Speaker 6: I want to point out that was President Trump's idea

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Speaker 1: So it's not a far fetted idea.

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Speaker 6: Yes, right, absolutely there, it looks like the group is

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Speaker 1: I'm going to let you hold onto it. Thank you again,

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Speaker 1: Gina for a stopping by.

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Speaker 4: Thank you THEO always a pleasure.

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Speaker 11: You know how much I appreciate you and your supportment

441
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Speaker 11: everything to me when I when I tried to run

442
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Speaker 11: for mayor against forty one eighteen and from.

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Speaker 4: Allies and poverty.

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Speaker 6: After listening to Gina and her thoughts on forty one eighteen,

445
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Speaker 6: let's hear what Hugo has to say when confronted about

446
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Speaker 6: his policies.

447
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Speaker 10: Come over.

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00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 9: I mean, the thing is that it's a simple request.

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Speaker 13: It's to repeal Mitchell Ferrell's zones that you pass through

450
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Speaker 13: city council.

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Speaker 9: There's precedent for a council member doing that. Joe Busk

452
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Speaker 9: with two zones.

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Speaker 1: Ironic.

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Speaker 13: It is ironic, but it kind of makes you look

455
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Speaker 13: bad that you are willing to do the same.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So I just want to be clear, like you're

457
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Speaker 14: not talking about citywide forty one ten, Like we don't

458
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Speaker 14: if we could repeal that, we repeal it.

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Speaker 9: Yes, we're talking about specific the.

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Speaker 14: CD thirteen zones.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay.

462
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Speaker 14: Now my understanding is I understand why you why people

463
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Speaker 14: would want the zones are The zones are still up.

464
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Speaker 14: We don't enforce them, we don't ask anyone to enforce them.

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Speaker 14: But I understand the reason for.

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Speaker 1: Wanting them down.

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Speaker 9: I get it they are enforced.

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Speaker 1: That's not that's not my understanding.

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Speaker 13: But I understand the data that we that Genus said

470
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Speaker 13: during the speech, arrests when you took office increased five

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Speaker 13: and twenty two percent.

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Speaker 9: So whether you're saying we want to enforce it or not,

473
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Speaker 9: that is what the data ships.

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Speaker 4: But you don't need to do.

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Speaker 14: The forty one eighteen data that people Kennethy here citing

476
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Speaker 14: is the city wide law.

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Speaker 13: Which that's not true though it's breaking down myity Council Distrct.

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Speaker 9: Well, I can show you right now. Look, I understand that.

479
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Speaker 14: Hold on, we can have a conversation, but like, let

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Speaker 14: me explain how I understand the data. Right. Forty one

481
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Speaker 14: eighteen is the city wide law that there's two different

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Speaker 14: kinds of forty one eighteen. There's a city wide law

483
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Speaker 14: that we need eight votes to repeal. And there are

484
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Speaker 14: there are zones that get put up by council members.

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Speaker 14: I have not put up a single forty one eighteen

486
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Speaker 14: zone since I took off this, but Mitchell Farrell did.

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Speaker 14: He put up I think eleven or twelve, and you're

488
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Speaker 14: asking them not okay, So you're asking for the repell

489
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Speaker 14: of that.

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Speaker 9: That's a fair push.

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Speaker 14: But when Kenneth Mahia puts the data out for forty

492
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Speaker 14: one eighteen, it's not about the zones, it's about the

493
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Speaker 14: entire city. And he's looking at the data from LAPD

494
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Speaker 14: and so forty one eighteen can exist and a forty

495
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Speaker 14: one eighteen arrest can exist without one of those zones,

496
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Speaker 14: and it's going to appear in Kenneth Misia's data.

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Speaker 1: So that's just the reality of the situation.

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Speaker 14: So even if I were to repeal the whatever a

499
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Speaker 14: dozen of zones like, you're still going to see forty

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Speaker 14: one eighteen arrests happening.

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Speaker 11: On not in CD thirteen, because then you would be

502
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Speaker 11: able to say to LAPD, there are no forty one

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Speaker 11: eighteen zones in CD thirteen.

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Speaker 14: I know, but I just want to be clear that

505
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Speaker 14: the data that Mahia is using is the city wide

506
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Speaker 14: forty one eighteen, which has I can't repeal on my

507
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Speaker 14: it includes.

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Speaker 10: Both such a but to be clear, the things around

509
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 10: schools and parks, that's not something that varies by council district.

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Speaker 10: That's so that is going to be included in the

511
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Speaker 10: data regardless, and that's going to be included.

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Speaker 13: So we looked at the data based on which types

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Speaker 13: of zones, and it includes both. And if you are

514
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Speaker 13: saying it's not worth it to repeal these zones because

515
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Speaker 13: oh not that many.

516
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Speaker 14: No no, I said I was going to look into it.

517
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 14: I said I was going to look into it. But

518
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Speaker 14: I just want people to understand that we as a

519
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Speaker 14: council member, I ask for forty one teen to not

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Speaker 14: be enforced. I've taken hits on that. I have voted

521
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Speaker 14: against Tracy Parks, against Katie Orroslawski's, against John Lee's. I

522
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 14: have voted every single time against any forty one eighteen. However,

523
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 14: I cannot control what LAPD does.

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Speaker 1: They have old wrong.

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Speaker 14: Let me just finish. We're having a conversations. I know

526
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 14: it looked like it looked like you were sorry, sorry,

527
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 14: It looked like you were like on the verge of

528
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 14: saying something and when we hear about forty one eighteen,

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Speaker 14: Look a LAPD switches captains. Every division switches captains about

530
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 14: every year. So like in Hollywood, we have a new captain,

531
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Speaker 14: Captain Chavez, and he's like rough shot and he comes

532
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 14: from rampart and he's like he's like smashed skulls right.

533
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 14: And when that come that happens, we go to the

534
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Speaker 14: hym and be like, that is not what we want

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Speaker 14: to do, Like we are not that kind of office.

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Speaker 1: But as much as we push.

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Speaker 14: That, they're gonna do what they want because they're they're

538
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 14: they're police officers.

539
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 4: They're gonna write your checks. Hold check, hold on, hold on.

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00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 14: I'm just curious they what they say to us is

541
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Speaker 14: I'm going to force what's on the books, whether you

542
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 14: like it or not. And so in the situation where yeah,

543
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 14: you're gonna see data, but it's like it's it's you know,

544
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Speaker 14: it's not what I want and.

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Speaker 9: Be acknowledged that everything you're saying is true.

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Speaker 13: However, these zones, people are arrested in them, and beyond that,

547
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 13: hundreds of people are ticketed, they're displaced because the LAPV

548
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 13: threatens them, circle threatens them.

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Speaker 14: I know, and I don't agree with that.

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Speaker 13: Okay, do you have the power to start shipping away

551
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 13: at that? And we know that Tracy Park is not

552
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 13: going to do anything about this. We know, like we

553
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 13: could go protest them until we die.

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Speaker 9: They love forty one eighteen.

555
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Speaker 13: It's up to you, It's up to Une, It's up

556
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Speaker 13: to Isabel Nitya who campaigned against forty one eighteen, to

557
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 13: start repealing this.

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00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 9: Otherwise there's never gonna be any movement.

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Speaker 14: Look, I agree with that. I look, folks, folks knowing

560
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 14: I come from a movement, I've done all these things.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 14: If if we want to sit down and strategize how

563
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Speaker 14: we fight back against citywide forty one eighteen, I'm happy

564
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 14: to be a partner in that. But let me tell

565
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 14: you something. It it's a hard one. We need eight

566
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 14: people to vote, and the most we've ever gotten is five.

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Speaker 1: We've done five. So let me talk about how.

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Speaker 13: I can tell you things about that. First of all,

569
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Speaker 13: and this is the biggest thing you can say, all

570
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 13: of these things. The fact of the matter is these

571
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 13: zones are in place, people are being arrested, they're being criminalized.

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Speaker 9: And you have the power to remove those. Okay, We're

573
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 9: we're asking you to commit to it. It's a very

574
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 9: simple ask.

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Speaker 13: The second thing is, we know that you need eight

576
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 13: votes to pass this type of motion, but it's specific

577
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 13: to your district. And historically there has never been a

578
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 13: motion specific to one district that city Council has not supported.

579
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Speaker 1: That is true the full council. Yet I've voted against it.

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Speaker 13: No, I'm saying any motion that has only affected one

581
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 13: council district in terms of moving funding, any type of

582
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 13: thing that is only specific to one district, it has

583
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 13: always passed through council yet.

584
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Speaker 9: And so.

585
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Speaker 4: Pass this.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, but I'm not just talking about motions. I'm

587
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 13: talking about any motion, like whether it's moving funding within

588
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 13: a city council district, when a council member from that

589
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 13: district has asked the rest of the council.

590
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Speaker 9: To support it, it has always passed. And so we

591
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 9: know that you can do this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Look, I I will take that push, right, I will.

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Speaker 14: I will read the letter, right.

595
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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a list of the exact Yes.

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Speaker 9: I have sent them to your office multiple times. I'm

598
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Speaker 9: happy to send them again.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, And look that I'm happy to be held accountable

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Speaker 14: and you pushed on things that I have control that's true.

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Speaker 14: Those zones are in mind, Mitch, put them up. You're

602
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Speaker 14: saying I could easily undo that.

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Speaker 4: I get that part you said you would when you

604
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Speaker 4: campaign last.

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Speaker 14: I don't think breas pits specifically on on the zones.

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Speaker 14: I don't think I've ever made a campaign coming in

607
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Speaker 14: the zone.

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Speaker 10: So I have a question. So they expire after two years?

609
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Speaker 14: Is this to do?

610
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Speaker 11: So?

611
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Speaker 10: Some types of zones expire.

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Speaker 9: Letich never passed those?

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Speaker 15: Okay, these are all zones are permanent unless they're Yeah, Look,

614
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Speaker 15: there's obviously a lot of agreement we have, right like

615
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 15: when you guys see Tracy.

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Speaker 14: And other folks doing that, you're in disagreement with that.

617
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Speaker 14: So I I will take the push, I will take

618
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Speaker 14: the accountability. But I hope that there's other things that

619
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Speaker 14: we can agree on that we can work on together.

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Speaker 6: What about calling out the police officers that are being

621
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Speaker 6: aggressively young Colt, that's not being reasonable to speak sitting

622
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Speaker 6: down some time, that's not If you have these new

623
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 6: captains coming in and going a country against your agenda,

624
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 6: your name is the one that's going to be blamed.

625
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 6: You're not speaking up or defending or opposing that. It

626
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 6: means like you're tested approval. It sounds like a complicit

627
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Speaker 6: kind of thing. You're just oh, well, this is what happens.

628
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Speaker 6: That's part of the frustration as well.

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Speaker 14: No, Like, I guarantee you that my attitude when I

630
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 14: hear these things happen is not oh well, you know,

631
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 14: it's just happened. No, Like, we have those conversations, we

632
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 14: push back on the actions of that they're doing. Now,

633
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 14: am I doing that a full city council?

634
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 11: Now?

635
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 14: Like I'm not doing that full city count But when

636
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 14: but when the chief has come and when the deputy

637
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 14: chiefs have come regarding the things, like, I take that

638
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 14: opportunity and I do challenge them on.

639
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: Some other actions.

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Speaker 14: So it's maybe you're not seeing that because it's happening, right,

641
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 14: But it's unacceptable, Like, that's not who I am.

642
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: That's not what I believe in.

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Speaker 11: You know, somebody has to reign in LAPD. Mean, they

644
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 11: don't write your checks.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

646
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: You don't go down to their office to report.

647
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 11: In for work, not disagreement, right, so you're in charge

648
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 11: of them.

649
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 4: It's the other way around.

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Speaker 14: I'm one of fifteen people I know, and I know that,

651
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Speaker 14: and I have made myself very vocal on many of

652
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 14: the things that they're doing. But you know, it's we

653
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 14: need eight votes at the end of day. You need

654
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Speaker 14: eight votes.

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Speaker 4: Can whip is one person.

656
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Speaker 14: There's literally an election happening which I just endorsed her

657
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Speaker 14: opponent and I'm going to be supporting as much as

658
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Speaker 14: i can, but we have to turn.

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Speaker 11: Look.

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Speaker 4: But if she can whip with one I know, but

661
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: you guys can whip.

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Speaker 14: I would love for this group to go out there

663
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Speaker 14: and door knock for five mile, like take the you

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Speaker 14: got to take from protest to politics, like you know,

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Speaker 14: it's just the reality without approach.

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Speaker 13: I understand watch people like you take office and you've continued.

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Speaker 9: We have to come interrupt that to do this.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. The movie is diverse.

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Speaker 13: The option is the best and is to get more

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Speaker 13: people elected.

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Speaker 9: When you won't even listen to us, I'm listening.

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Speaker 14: To you now, and we've talked, Chris, we talk all

673
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Speaker 14: You talk to my staff all the time. Refused have

674
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Speaker 14: conversations with our staff all the time. Sometimes you praise this,

675
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Speaker 14: sometimes you should have that's that's okay, that's okay.

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Speaker 13: You've you specifically and your staff will stop. You're turning

677
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Speaker 13: our phone calls for the most part, especially around this

678
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Speaker 13: specific demand, which we've been making.

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Speaker 9: For quite some time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is a lightlift.

681
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Speaker 9: We do not want to be here on a Saturday morning.

682
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Speaker 9: You would rather be doing things in the community.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 14: I appreciate the work everyone's doing. You know, I'll take

685
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Speaker 14: I'll take the letter. I'll look at it. Uh. The

686
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 14: movement is diverse, but like this is a tactic yell unemployed.

687
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Speaker 13: Fine, the movement is diverse, but people are being criminalized

688
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Speaker 13: and you have the power to stop that.

689
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Speaker 9: Not all of it, and we're fully acknowledging that, but

690
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Speaker 9: you have the power.

691
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Speaker 13: If you can stop ten people from getting arrested every

692
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Speaker 13: year in your district, that is enough.

693
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Speaker 9: That should be enough to you. There's no excuse for that.

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Speaker 1: And you like plant it to speak out like that's

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Speaker 1: one of the thing.

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Speaker 9: Can I ask you directly? Can I ask you directly?

697
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Speaker 13: Do you think it acceptable for anyone to be arrested

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00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 13: in your district under forty nine eighteen?

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? Just it's not acceptable.

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Speaker 13: Okay, So if you have the power to stop just

701
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 13: say one person by doing this, isn't that worth it?

702
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 9: It's isn't that worth.

703
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Speaker 1: It, Yes or no, it is worth it.

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Speaker 14: We can look into it, but it's I just want

705
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Speaker 14: to understand that there is an incorrect perception that somehow

706
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Speaker 14: what I want is going to happen in the district

707
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Speaker 14: with twenty sixty thousand people. I don't control every situation,

708
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 14: even if I say these things, even if I want it,

709
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Speaker 14: it's going to happen because I'm not in every corner

710
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Speaker 14: when this when.

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Speaker 9: Is these we understand that we're not, but when do

712
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 9: all of this, but when it does happen.

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Speaker 13: One thing that we're demanding, but when it doesn't happened,

714
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Speaker 13: that we go back and we're like, this is not

715
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Speaker 13: our approach.

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Speaker 14: So you know, I understand.

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Speaker 9: There's just one simple defender.

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Speaker 13: You have the power to prevent people from getting arrested,

719
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Speaker 13: from getting ticketed. Frequently at your sweeps, people get like

720
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 13: this happened a couple of weeks ago. I wanted your sweeps.

721
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Speaker 13: Somebody was arrested. They had a warrant because they missed

722
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Speaker 13: a court date. And when when people get forty and

723
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Speaker 13: eighteen tickets, like frequently their tickets get thrown out in sweeps,

724
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Speaker 13: they don't know what the pork it is, and that

725
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Speaker 13: was completely unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: It's I was.

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Speaker 14: I was very upset that that happened. We had a

728
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Speaker 14: situation where again a police officer showed up before our

729
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 14: staff showed up. He did it the other place in

730
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Speaker 14: CD one Like it's one police officer that went just

731
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Speaker 14: on his own program, and it's like, it's.

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Speaker 6: Not right right, and do you you haven't call them

733
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Speaker 6: out public about it. You're complicit. You keep saying you're

734
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Speaker 6: talking to the behind the door.

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Speaker 4: Can't just tell us.

736
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Speaker 6: In order for you to make change. They are leaders,

737
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Speaker 6: we're in black history mouth.

738
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Speaker 1: Let's be clear. If we just gonna keep saying.

739
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Speaker 6: We're going talking to them behind doors, we would have

740
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Speaker 6: never gotten O rights. So if you are serious concerned

741
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 6: here about what you're.

742
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Speaker 1: Saying, you speak out. You have a platform, you have

743
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: a bully pulpit.

744
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 6: All you need to do is speak out and says

745
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 6: I had an incident that was uncomfortable and was unacceptable

746
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Speaker 6: by one member of LAPD. I want to put them

747
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Speaker 6: on notices. Anytime that they do these kind of LAPD

748
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Speaker 6: type of forty one eighteen sweets, I will call it out.

749
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Speaker 6: I will call you out until we get to get

750
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Speaker 6: to the point that we are on the same page.

751
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Speaker 1: It is unacceptable you keep.

752
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Speaker 6: Pretending that you don't know what's going on, or you

753
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 6: are upset about it and you're talking to in one

754
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Speaker 6: on one. This is not this kind of a kind

755
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 6: of unacceptable kind of mess that the citizenry that voted

756
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Speaker 6: for you will accept. You spoke out against forty one eighteen.

757
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Speaker 6: You spoken against it in the public court, against other

758
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Speaker 6: city council members. Then you can speak out against the

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Speaker 6: unactionable approaches that go on against the unhoused community.

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Speaker 1: It is that something.

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Speaker 6: Either you're gonna speak up or speak out or get

762
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Speaker 6: moved out of the way and let someone else do

763
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Speaker 6: it and do to speak it out and do it

764
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Speaker 6: this that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's a good point.

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Speaker 14: Okay, Well, appreciate your time, hope you know.

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Speaker 1: I'll look at it and we'll get my time.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 6: That's This is Hugo Sodo Martinez response. It is dated

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Speaker 6: February twenty fifth, twenty twenty six. It says, dear La

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Speaker 6: Streetcare and coalition members, thank you for your advocacy, organizing

772
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Speaker 6: and for taking the time to share your concern. We

773
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 6: have received your letter and take your request seriously. Based

774
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Speaker 6: on what you've raised, Our teams will begin a comprehensive

775
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Speaker 6: analysis of forty one eighteen zones and enforcement data in

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Speaker 6: Council District thirteen. This review will help us ensure that

777
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Speaker 6: our next steps are grounded in data transparency and community engagement.

778
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Speaker 6: Our office has been clear from the beginning we do

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Speaker 6: not support forty one eighteen, and we have always made

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Speaker 6: this clear to all city departments. Since taking office, we

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Speaker 6: have voted against all forty one eighteen enforcement resolutions before

782
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Speaker 6: the city Council. We appreciate and thank you for your

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Speaker 6: work and for bringing these issues to our office. Sincerely,

784
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 6: Hugo Soldo Martinez. That's Hugo's response. This is an ongoing

785
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Speaker 6: conversation due to the current election cycle. It is a

786
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Speaker 6: developing story and we will keep you abreast of the

787
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Speaker 6: community's response to Hugo's response. But when we come back,

788
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Speaker 6: I'll speak with unhoused veteran George Fleischmann. Welcome back to

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Speaker 6: Weedy and Howes. I'm Theo Henderson. This week we're joining

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Speaker 6: by George Fleischman. George is a currently unhoused veteran who

791
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Speaker 6: has a heart riching.

792
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Speaker 1: Story to tell. This is his story.

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Speaker 6: We have a very special guest here in the studio today, George,

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Speaker 6: George Fleischmann. He's going to tell us about his story

795
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Speaker 6: and what's going on with him. There are many facets

796
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Speaker 6: of houselessness, and his story is unique, like many of

797
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Speaker 6: the guests that have gone on and the stories that

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Speaker 6: we've covered so without for redue Joy which tell us

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Speaker 6: a little bit about yourself and what's going on in

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Speaker 6: your life.

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Speaker 7: Well, Phil, thank you again for having me on your show.

802
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 7: I'm second generation Air Force I love America. My dad

803
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 7: was a lieutenant colonel and he retired in a foalent

804
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Speaker 7: in Illinois in sixty five, and later on I ended

805
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Speaker 7: up following him, spending my twenty years and I retired

806
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Speaker 7: as a Master sergeant. I worked in Air Force based

807
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Speaker 7: Command and went on as an engineer as a defense contractor,

808
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Speaker 7: invented some things that are saving lives still today. Unfortunately,

809
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Speaker 7: I was disabled as a result of my military service

810
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Speaker 7: and it kind of.

811
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Speaker 1: Caught up with me.

812
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Speaker 7: I caught a little bit of radioactivity from Chernobyl and

813
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Speaker 7: I caught some agent orange that the government dumped out

814
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 7: on Okanawa and added up and well. By two thousand

815
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Speaker 7: and six, I was in a wheelchair, and about twenty

816
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Speaker 7: years later, maybe fifteen, my wife said I'd rather be

817
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Speaker 7: with a man that has good legs, and so she

818
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Speaker 7: divorced me. The house lost even most of my wheelchairs,

819
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Speaker 7: and I ended out in Los Angeles and I had

820
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Speaker 7: a family member say, hey, go to the VA because

821
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Speaker 7: they know how to take care of you, and you

822
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Speaker 7: were in the military and it was a benefit that

823
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Speaker 7: you earned. And so I went to the VA and

824
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Speaker 7: December of twenty twenty two and said help, I need

825
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Speaker 7: some help, guys, And they said, oh, just wait right

826
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Speaker 7: here in these tiny shacks.

827
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Speaker 1: For the audience, what is a tiny shack?

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Speaker 7: They used to call them tiny homes, but they're really

829
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Speaker 7: technically palette shelters. Think of where you might want to

830
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Speaker 7: store your line more in the off season with the

831
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Speaker 7: rest of your line equipment. It does have a little

832
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Speaker 7: air conditioner and a little heater, but there's no plumbing.

833
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Speaker 7: There are sixty four square feet. I've been in there

834
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Speaker 7: thirty eight months, listening to broken promises about being housed.

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Speaker 1: Do you face any hardships due to the weather living

836
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Speaker 1: in those places?

837
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Speaker 5: Well, I have to go outside to go to the bathroom.

838
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Speaker 7: I'm in a wheelchair and trying to hold a urinal

839
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Speaker 7: in one hand and.

840
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Speaker 5: Push the wheelchair with the other. Oh, I go on circles.

841
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Speaker 7: I don't get help. I get laughed at by the

842
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Speaker 7: people that work there. They're pretty cruel.

843
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that.

844
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Speaker 6: Are they working to get you into a housing or

845
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Speaker 6: they're just you know, what's the situation on that.

846
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Speaker 7: They put me into a studio in North Hollywood about

847
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Speaker 7: a year ago, and then I thought I signed the lease,

848
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 7: I thought everything was fine. I was there literally two hours.

849
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Speaker 7: They said, congratulations, your disability finally came through after twenty years,

850
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Speaker 7: but you don't qualify to be in there anymore, and

851
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Speaker 7: we're taking you out. And so they took me out,

852
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 7: but there after two hours put me back in the

853
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Speaker 7: same tiny house, and later they tried to put me

854
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Speaker 7: in South Central, LA and the property manager stole almost

855
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Speaker 7: two thousand dollars from me and the advased people. When

856
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 7: I went and reported that to them, they said, we're

857
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Speaker 7: just going to kick you out.

858
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Speaker 1: Of their program.

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Speaker 5: And that was about eighteen months ago.

860
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Speaker 6: And there's no advocate to be able to recoup the

861
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Speaker 6: funding or any way to have someone advocate for your

862
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Speaker 6: complain to anything.

863
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 7: Well, I went to my HUDVA social worker, and I said,

864
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 7: I did exactly what you told me to do, and

865
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Speaker 7: they stole from me.

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Speaker 5: Help let's get the this is fried. Please help me.

867
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Speaker 5: She said that's not my job, and she kicked me

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Speaker 5: out of the program.

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Speaker 6: Oh there was no sense of it a grievance or

870
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Speaker 6: appeal at all. Unfortunately. No, I'm sorry to hear that.

871
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 6: So where do where does things stand out for you now?

872
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 5: A year ago? Approximately year ago?

873
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Speaker 7: They said, well, you know, the fires delayed us a

874
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 7: little bit, the La fires that we had, so they said,

875
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 7: let me see now. They said, maybe by July of

876
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 7: two five, we can get your housed and some of

877
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 7: the new buildings that are going up. And I qualified

878
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 7: for a two bedroom. So July came around they said, well,

879
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 7: we've decided we're not going to give you a two bedroom.

880
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 7: They did not give me a reason why. It was

881
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 7: just you're not going to get it. But you can

882
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 7: sign up for one of the one bedrooms on MacArthur

883
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 7: Boulevard up there at the VA. So I signed up

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Speaker 7: for that and they said September. So September came around

885
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Speaker 7: and they said we've decided to deny you. And I

886
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 7: said why I said, well, you know, maybe taxes. But

887
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 7: so I did a letter to the developers and I said,

888
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 7: I need to know who's making the decision, what your

889
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 7: criteria is for denying me, where the math is, because

890
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 7: I think you're doing the math ron it says I

891
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 7: don't qualify. And I signed the letter back in November

892
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 7: and they have not responded.

893
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 6: So for our audience that it's not in Los Angeles,

894
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 6: we had a very big fire in Los Angeles. It

895
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 6: was like a multiple fires at the same time, which

896
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 6: made it a very unique circumstance, and many people out

897
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 6: Deer and other areas Pacific Palisas to be clear, and

898
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 6: va is right, dear in the Westwood area were impacted

899
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 6: and many people from all walks of life lost their homes.

900
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 6: But with people that lived in LA was impacted as

901
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 6: well by the heavy at small and other health issues.

902
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 6: And if you were on house, you were impacted more

903
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 6: directly because there was no recourse or respikee to save

904
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 6: or to cover your respiratory issues. So when it was

905
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 6: starting to impact me and I stay in SRO even

906
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 6: though it's a very tiny box, and even though they

907
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 6: were trying to well, you try to get close the window.

908
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 6: It still impacted me and I had to check into

909
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 6: a hotel and I have health issues in which I

910
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 6: want to enumerate now. But the point of it is,

911
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 6: many people have health issues. And if you have served

912
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 6: this country, as everyone always loved to trot out, particularly

913
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 6: the conservatives, love this country, but yet you treat badly

914
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 6: the people that did serve this country. That's the lie

915
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 6: into the argument where George has gone through is a

916
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 6: double a that this story has not been reaching mainstream

917
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 6: media to really highlight the inefficious and the incompetence of

918
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 6: trying to make sure that George is taken care of.

919
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 6: And this story, this conversation illuminates this, and this is

920
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 6: why it's so important to understand the follows of bread

921
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 6: crumbs on his story. So as it stands that we

922
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 6: had this big fire and you were going to be

923
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 6: taken care of and then the contract or the promise

924
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 6: was rescinded, is that correct?

925
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: Yes? And so what stands now? What happens now?

926
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 7: I have nowhere to go, I don't have any more hope.

927
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 7: I'm sorry to hear that if I were in jail,

928
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 7: I would have and I'm no criminal, but if I

929
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 7: was in jail.

930
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: At least i'd have a parole.

931
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: I have no parole.

932
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: I have no hope.

933
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 5: There's no end to it.

934
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: The end is death, my death.

935
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 6: I'm sorry to hear that, and it's very disappointing and

936
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 6: very disturbing to face these kind of consequences as a

937
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 6: result of this. You have tried to get in touch

938
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 6: with anybody from the V eight Is there any case

939
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 6: workers that would be interested in listening to it or they.

940
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 7: Know I'm in my fourth case of pneumonia. The faults

941
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 7: was so bad one of my toes kind of infected

942
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 7: and I thought they were going to amputate my foot.

943
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 7: So I'm not suicidal. I'm just saying it's very dangerous

944
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 7: for my health to be there. And it's none eighty A.

945
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: That's being disability accessible if you're talking about.

946
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the EIGHTA is the American Disabilities Act, and

947
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 7: so it's difficult to navigate in a wheelchair. There's one

948
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 7: hundred and forty people living there. There is only one

949
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 7: shower that I can get into, and most of the

950
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 7: people like it because there's a room for wheelchairs. There's

951
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 7: a room for them to go in, and they go

952
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 7: in and party and stuff, so it's hard to stay clean,

953
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 7: it's hard to use the bathroom. There's not enough facilities

954
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 7: for the disabled. And if I don't like it, they

955
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 7: always tell me I could leave.

956
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 6: And that's always the frustrating thing when you're dealing with

957
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 6: these services, because they know that you're in a vulnerable

958
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 6: say and when people are staff that say that thing,

959
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 6: they know they say it with such glee and cruelty

960
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 6: because they know that you have to accept it. It's

961
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 6: an abusive of power and it's an abusive nature. That's

962
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 6: sometimes people in staff do because they get off on that, so,

963
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 6: you know, not trying to help you. It's sometimes in

964
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 6: the helping profession or medical profession seems to attract some

965
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 6: cruel people. So you've mentioned your health issues as well

966
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 6: as the difficulties of it. What would you like to

967
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 6: see done to help you? How is it the best

968
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 6: thing to help you immediately? Well, I have a feeding

969
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 6: tube and a pain pump. The feeding tubes on the

970
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 6: side that means I can't swallow, so I have a choice.

971
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 7: Every day I eat or I starve. If I eat,

972
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 7: I choke, So I don't want to choke, or do

973
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 7: I want to starve? I've asked for a liquid diet.

974
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 7: I get one drink in the morning. Usually sometimes I

975
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 7: find lucky, I get a beverage at night. If I

976
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 7: get hungry, I have to go ahead and eat, and

977
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 7: then I take the chance of the food not going

978
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 7: down esophagus the way it's opposed to.

979
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: It goes into my lungs aspirate, it can catch pneumonia

980
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: like that.

981
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, that's four times now that's happened, and they're

982
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 7: not very sympathetic.

983
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 6: It sounds like if there's a couple of things. One,

984
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 6: you have the immediate issues like your health issues that

985
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 6: needs to be attended to first wherever you are, like

986
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 6: you're saying your liquid diet as well as your pain considerations.

987
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 6: There's also the physical also portions of it is making

988
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 6: things accessible for you to go to the restroom or

989
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 6: a shower or other things that we take for granted.

990
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 6: The third thing is to have a place that is

991
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 6: many of those things that you will be able to

992
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 6: thrive and survive in this environment. And it's very difficult

993
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 6: to survive if they keep throwing you or denying your

994
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 6: case or denying housing for you. So, yes, but have

995
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 6: you reached out to probably have to Senator Ted lu

996
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 6: who's responsible for many of the veterans type of opportunities.

997
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, going through his office. I have somebody helping me

998
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 7: do that, and I have a team of social workers

999
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 7: that are trying to help me. But there's one person.

1000
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 7: I guess, the developer does not want me in the

1001
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 7: new housing at the VA. They want to use it

1002
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 7: for something else. I guess, Wow, why would they be

1003
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 7: listening to a developer who doesn't have much say into

1004
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 7: when the building is done? So, I mean, unless they're

1005
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 7: not trying to make it accessible. So those new buildings

1006
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 7: on the first floor, they're talking about enhanced use leases that.

1007
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: Are not legal. What are enhanced use leases?

1008
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 7: And enhanced use lease is when the government says, hey,

1009
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 7: we've got all this land and we're not using it,

1010
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 7: and so if you have a better purpose for it,

1011
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 7: a private developer, you can come in and we'll lease

1012
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 7: see the land and you can use it for profit

1013
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 7: or to improve the community or whatever. But you're not

1014
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 7: supposed to do that with land is need it. So

1015
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 7: whoever is certifying we don't need this land is obviously

1016
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 7: not talking about the veterans that need a place to live.

1017
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 6: So what they feel that those pallet shelters are places

1018
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 6: for house veterans to live.

1019
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 7: There's there's really two echelons of the palett shelters they've

1020
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 7: been talking about. They've been talking about bringing in some

1021
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 7: tiny homes with bathrooms and a little kitchen a little

1022
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 7: bit later. Now, those I have no complaint, But putting

1023
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 7: somebody into a garden shack with sixty four square feet

1024
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 7: for over three years where there's.

1025
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 5: No bathroom, it's an hem.

1026
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 6: Even for able body people. That's pretty tough, you know,

1027
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 6: to be in that thing. And I'm in our sro

1028
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 6: where it's very cramped and it's very difficult to maneuver.

1029
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 6: But to put someone in a smaller place, and I

1030
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 6: don't know what this obsession is where putting people in

1031
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 6: They saying housing, They try to find the most smallest place,

1032
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 6: the most claustrophobic type of environment. And then if you

1033
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 6: don't accept it, of course you already have experiences with this,

1034
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 6: then you are ungrateful and you just take what you get,

1035
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 6: or you can stay out in the street. So it's

1036
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 6: definitely a chicken and egg situation. So if there's a

1037
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 6: message that you would like to send out, what would

1038
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 6: that message be well.

1039
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 7: I'm very grateful to your listeners and to you for

1040
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 7: your valuable time. But my message, if I could send

1041
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 7: it to anybody, it'd be my fellow veterans.

1042
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: You're not alone.

1043
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 7: You had my back when we were holding the line,

1044
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 7: and I got you. Now forever simplify all right. This

1045
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 7: is Ceo Henderson from WHEDI and Howells. I hope you

1046
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 7: listen to the story and hopefully better things happened for you.

1047
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: George. Thanks a lot.

1048
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 6: Thank you very much to George for sharing his story.

1049
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 6: When we come back, Carlos Nieto the Third and Alison

1050
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 6: Riley share about Shirley's Free Food Hub, their new community

1051
00:51:53,880 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 6: fridge project in South LA. Welcome back to Weedian House.

1052
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 6: I'm Theo Henderson. We're in the field again at Shirley's

1053
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 6: Free Food Hub, a new community fridge project in South LA.

1054
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 6: Here's our interview with founders Carlos nia To the third

1055
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 6: and Alison Riley.

1056
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: We have an exciting couple of exciting returning guests.

1057
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 6: One is my old cinem photographer who used to go

1058
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 6: on the road with me, Carlos niet To the third,

1059
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 6: who is also an animator extraordinaire. He has been doing

1060
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 6: a lot of the anime on around in the libraries

1061
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 6: and the surrounding areas, and it's also outside of California

1062
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 6: as well. We also have another friend is Allison, and

1063
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 6: Allison is very instrumental with Carlos has worked.

1064
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: Together to create a pantry.

1065
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 6: But we're gonna let them tell her in their own words,

1066
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 6: So without furvor a do welcome Carlos and Alison.

1067
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: Hey, THEO, how are you hi? All right, so tell

1068
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: us a little bit what is going on?

1069
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 8: First of all, it's an honor to have you here.

1070
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 8: We've been through so many things together. I feel like

1071
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 8: this is like a culmination of some of those things

1072
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 8: that we put together a long time ago. Hellas and

1073
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 8: I have been here for a few years now, and

1074
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 8: as you know, I'm very much into mutual aid and

1075
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 8: helping out whenever I can, whichever way I can, and

1076
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 8: so yeah, so we have had this idea to do

1077
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 8: this for a long time and just you know, took

1078
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 8: our own time to really wait it out and to

1079
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 8: plan it out. First, we found a fridge through our

1080
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 8: buy nothing online group and we kept it in our

1081
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 8: garage for a while. Then eventually we were able to

1082
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 8: find a shed that we liked and revamped our patio

1083
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 8: our front yard to really kind of create a space

1084
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 8: for people to come in and be able to hang

1085
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 8: out and relax for a little bit. And then finally

1086
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 8: we were able to order the shed. We got the

1087
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 8: shed a few weeks ago, had some people help us

1088
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 8: put it together, and I got the opportunity to do

1089
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 8: this mural up here.

1090
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: What is this mural and what this ration from Shirley?

1091
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 8: It's free h So, Shirley Chisholm is a very important

1092
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 8: figure in my life in terms of social justice, in

1093
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 8: terms of community engagement. And one of her quotes, which

1094
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 8: I think you turned me on two years ago was

1095
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 8: you know the brand that we pay for a living

1096
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 8: on the surfage service to others And that really stuck

1097
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 8: with me. And so I think she is a perfect

1098
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 8: face for this kind of project that we're putting together. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: So I took some time, found some photos of her

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Speaker 8: and was able to create something that I thought captured

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Speaker 8: a little bit of her personality and her soul.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately listeners can't see, but I do have the video

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Speaker 6: of footage. Is this is the show. This is the

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Speaker 6: first day of the grand opening of it. And you've

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Speaker 6: had an outpouring of response to this, So tell us

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Speaker 6: a little bit about it and walk us a little

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Speaker 6: bit through.

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Speaker 1: What do you see, you know for our audience.

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Speaker 12: Well, yeah, even before we opened, we came home from

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Speaker 12: vacation actually and just the shed was here, and we

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Speaker 12: opened the shed and there was already plethora of donations

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Speaker 12: inside the shed, which really filled up quickly, and we

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Speaker 12: quickly had people in the neighborhood come by looking and

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Speaker 12: interested in the donations. And then today for the opening,

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Speaker 12: our friends down in Africa Town and downtown Crunshall Rising

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Speaker 12: brought lots of food from their weekly giveaway.

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Speaker 1: So much food I was left over.

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Speaker 12: So we have you know, whole chicken breasts and salads

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Speaker 12: and breads and all kinds of delicious streets.

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Speaker 6: One of the things that I have been in my

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Speaker 6: show had been talking about when people are donating, people

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Speaker 6: tend to give out the detritus of things that they

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Speaker 6: don't want, and conversely, when they give it to unhouse people,

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Speaker 6: it sends the message they just threw together and gave

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Speaker 6: it up. The difference what I noticed from here is different.

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Speaker 6: There's fresh bread, there are brand name food that's here.

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Speaker 6: There are fruit cups. There are like you said, chicken breasts.

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Speaker 6: There are fresh vegetables. If it depends if you are

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Speaker 6: a vegetarian, they have you know, you have vegetables in there,

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Speaker 6: you have fruit, you have the whole gamut of fresh

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Speaker 6: food here. It is not geared toward making people feel

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Speaker 6: embarrassed to get food.

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Speaker 1: I would eat these food this food here too, because

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Speaker 1: it's quality food.

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Speaker 6: It's fresh, and it has the dignity that it requires

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Speaker 6: for people to eat it, particularly if you have multiple

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Speaker 6: type of health issues and things like that. There's a

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Speaker 6: variety of things here. There's a variety of food here.

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Speaker 6: I think that's one of the things that really is

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Speaker 6: knocking my socks off and saying job dot well dot

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Speaker 6: thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my big things too.

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Speaker 8: I feel like working with you is really illuminated the

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Speaker 8: idea that it's not just food, it's what kind of

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Speaker 8: food that it's given.

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Speaker 1: And the difference between.

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Speaker 8: Solution that's done by the city, you know, through paperwork

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Speaker 8: and right, you have these groups that you have all

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Speaker 8: these middlemen coming in and doing these things and the

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Speaker 8: food gets maybe tale or you don't get the freshest food.

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Speaker 8: And then through local community organization. You get fresher food

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Speaker 8: directly from the suppliers, and I feel like that's that's

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Speaker 8: where the often the disconnect is getting the fresh food

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Speaker 8: to the people that need it at that moment, not

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Speaker 8: two weeks later.

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Speaker 6: And to add on to you, if you have health complications,

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Speaker 6: some of the food that it's a city or the

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Speaker 6: steak would throw to you, you can't eat or it

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Speaker 6: was gonna like for being. I mean, I got so

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Speaker 6: tired of getting the peanut butter and jelly salad. If

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Speaker 6: I have another one, I'm going into a diathetic.

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Speaker 1: COVID spike it up. You know, some things that's gonna

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Speaker 1: need to have it come down or three level. So

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Speaker 1: those are things where I'm.

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Speaker 6: Very happy to see that I could choose healthy choices

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Speaker 6: to it as well. I don't have to, you know,

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Speaker 6: choose from one help peanut butter jelly sandwich to on others.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And groups like Africa Town, Downturning, Fresh Arising, and also

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Speaker 8: Black Lives Matter, they focus on creating that that exchange

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Speaker 8: of fresh food to the community. So Black Lives Matter

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Speaker 8: meetings always has fresh bags of produce to give out

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Speaker 8: to all the people that come to their meetings, so

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Speaker 8: they really take care in showing that they are working

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Speaker 8: for the community as well as with the community.

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Speaker 6: I have a question for you, Allison, and perhaps you

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Speaker 6: can help me. I overheard you mentioned that there is

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Speaker 6: a process that you can do to do this. Let's say,

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Speaker 6: because we've already been in the grips of food and

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Speaker 6: security with President Trump suing to keep people starving.

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Speaker 1: What if people and other communities see the.

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Speaker 6: Need and want to do what you guys do? What

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Speaker 6: was some kind of what some of the steps that

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Speaker 6: can be done?

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 12: We connected with the LA Community Fridge Organization, who is

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Speaker 12: a collective of individual community fridges throughout the city of

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Speaker 12: Los Angeles, and right now they have a map of

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Speaker 12: fridges current fridges about fifteen throughout the city. But they

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Speaker 12: also have a tremendous amount of resources on their website.

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Speaker 12: Right they have frequently asked questions about how to seek

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Speaker 12: out a location for a fridge, what do you need

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Speaker 12: to start the fridge? They also have you know, a

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Speaker 12: place where you can go to volunteer for different activities

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Speaker 12: and connections to other resources for ongoing, ongoing donations. So

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Speaker 12: you know it's it's a group effort, right because this

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Speaker 12: is about needing each other and needing community to get

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Speaker 12: things done. And that's a group that has really been working,

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Speaker 12: you know, I think since the pandemic or before even

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Speaker 12: to get these community for just going in LA.

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Speaker 6: You also have one also as an a side that

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Speaker 6: you were also alternatives for instead of with their conflicts

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Speaker 6: and things. Could you bring that up too, because I

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Speaker 6: would like to know the website and also to maybe

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Speaker 6: contact information for Again, there are people that want to

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Speaker 6: do things that are outside, make creatives of dreaming of

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Speaker 6: a better world, and maybe this is going to help

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Speaker 6: them as well.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, we've been working with a group called Community Alternatives

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Speaker 12: to nine to one one. They are primarily based in

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Speaker 12: Korea Town and they have a hotline right where a

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Speaker 12: community can call if they are aware of a dispute

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Speaker 12: or domestic violence or some thing where you would need

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Speaker 12: some help to resolve the issue and you don't want

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Speaker 12: to call the police. And so that's something that's really

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Speaker 12: important to us too, right that, especially at this bridge,

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Speaker 12: we want to make sure that folks aren't calling UH

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Speaker 12: nine to one one if there's an issue, that we

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Speaker 12: have the skills to be able to help de escalate

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Speaker 12: challenges and to you know, deal with it in a

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Speaker 12: community way rather than needing to go through the state, right.

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Speaker 6: And that's what this has been about, I believe. And

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Speaker 6: I'm going to ask another question, I'd like one of

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Speaker 6: the lusts. Do you believe that thanks to the mutual

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Speaker 6: aid activism that happened during the pandemic has really kept

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Speaker 6: the fires going or what this had been happening without

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Speaker 6: the pandemic. Much activism that's been going on.

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Speaker 12: And I think all of that work in our involvement,

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Speaker 12: and it is definitely something that keeps encouraging us and

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Speaker 12: keeps having us dream about that future and how can

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Speaker 12: we keep building and creating the world that we want

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Speaker 12: to live in. And so like, I think that that

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Speaker 12: is some of the you know, some of the early

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Speaker 12: you know, early early work to encourage this type of

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Speaker 12: visioning and planning.

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Speaker 8: And really, right, we.

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Speaker 12: Want to defund the police, but we want to also

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Speaker 12: create the systems where we can take care of each

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Speaker 12: other and we don't need to be calling the police

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Speaker 12: reflic so, but we do need to have bigger imaginations.

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Speaker 12: And we saw what we can do right during the pandemic.

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Speaker 12: The pandemic showed us how to show up and how

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Speaker 12: to be in community and support each other, you know.

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Speaker 12: So I think it was a great impetus for everything.

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Speaker 4: That's to come.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I feel like the pandemic really normalized the idea

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Speaker 8: of people helping people and community looking after each other.

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Speaker 8: And I know for myself, when I travel for work,

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Speaker 8: I try and find ways to do you mutually even

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Speaker 8: though I'm not at home. So go to the you know,

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Speaker 8: the dollar store and buy ingredients that make sandwich is

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Speaker 8: to give value, not peanut butter and jelly.

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Speaker 1: Right, but.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeah, when am I stable, I like to

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Speaker 8: make chili whenever I can, I make a big old

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Speaker 8: part of it, put it in on plastic bins, and just

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Speaker 8: drive around until I began in with me vegan also vegan,

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Speaker 8: Yeah began.

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Speaker 1: I can't hang with the vegan. But I was a carnivore. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, so I like to I like to do

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Speaker 8: that kind of community aid when I can. And I

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Speaker 8: feel like having a fridge here is going to make

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Speaker 8: it even a lot easier because we have what we

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Speaker 8: need at hand to be able to kind of create

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Speaker 8: that when we when we want to, we're go.

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Speaker 11: We need to.

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Speaker 6: Well, it sounds like you get more guests here, We're

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Speaker 6: going to do the video portion if you hang in there.

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Speaker 6: If you want to see the video portion, check out

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Speaker 6: William Howees on Instagram and.

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Speaker 1: You'll see the video walk through of what's going on.

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Speaker 6: Thank you again to George, Carlos and Allison for their

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Speaker 6: time and their work. You can learn more about Shirley's

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Speaker 6: Free Food Hub at the links in the description.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, thank you for listening in.

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Speaker 6: If you have a story you'd like to share, please

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Speaker 6: reach out to me at weedionhousat gmail dot com or

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Speaker 6: Wiedianhouse on Instagram. Until the end, may we again meet

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Speaker 6: in the light of understanding. Whedian House is a production

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Speaker 6: of iHeartRadio. It is written, hosted, and created by me

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Speaker 6: Theo Henderson, our producers Jamie Loftus, Haley Fager, Katie Fischel,

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Speaker 6: and Lyra Smith. Our editor is Adam Want, our engineer

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01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 6: is Joel Jerome, and our local art is also by

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Speaker 6: Katie Fisher. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 8: Yeah,