1 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: What is up? Mets bands, Welcome back to another episode 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: of the Mets Stuff Podcast. Sweep, Sweep, sweepep sweep. Not 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: gonna celebrate sweep because that's what they should have done. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: That was everything that needed to be done. This White 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Sox team, again, I can't stress enough, is the worst 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: team to ever probably have stepped out a baseball field, 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: including the nineteen sixty two Mets. But hey, the Mets 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: went out to Chicago swept them relatively easy. Series wasn't domination, 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: wasn't smacking around like I would have preferred, but start 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: to finish, Mets really were in control of this entire series. 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Not too too much to talk about with in these games, 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: because again we are playing a minor league baseball team, 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: so can't really dive too deep into the numbers. But 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: still a lot of really good stuff. We have a 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: voicemail episode coming from you guys as well, so we're 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: gonna check the Instagram at some point throughout this episode, 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: play your guys voice notes out loud and see what 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: you have to say and respond to that and otherwise 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: you know the drill. Thank you guys for listening and watching. 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Make sure you follow us on all our social media 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: at mess up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Subscribe to 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: the Mets Up podcast YouTube channel if you want to 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: see the video version of this and if you are 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: listening Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, drops a rating, drops a review, 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: download and subscribe. I'm not so happy Labor Day to 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: everybody out there. I hope you're enjoying your days off. 27 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: September started, and the Mets right now are sitting two 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: games out of the National League Wild Card. Again, it 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: felt like there was well it's one and a half, 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: I guess technically because the Braves Phillies game hasn't happened yet. 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: Let's go Phillies. Let's go Phillies. Can't stress that enough. 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: But feeling pretty good after this weekend, I think that's 33 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: exactly what the Mets and Mets fans needed. A nice sweep, 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah badly. 35 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: Just if you would have lost a game to this 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: White Sox team, I think it would have been a 37 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: disaster because you you have to beat this team three times, 38 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: and the Mets didn't win these games particularly easily, which 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: is weird to say, but they only allowed four runs 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: the whole weekend. But also just like like there there 41 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: was at least a moment in every game where I 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: was like, this doesn't feel great, starting with Tyler mcgal 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: when he started that game poorly on Friday and I 44 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: was like, this kid, this just literally can't be happening 45 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: right now. 46 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: What was the text you sent me? I gotta I'm 47 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: gonna pull it up real quick, text that you sent me. 48 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: Let's see, Julie McGill, if you're listening to this, I'm 49 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: really sorry. I was in the heat of the moment 50 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: and I started Tyler in a fancy matchup that really, 51 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: really really needed a good start. Oh, here it is. 52 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: I got upset. I got upset, read the text McGill 53 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: fucking sucks. I'm so tired of this pussy, and then 54 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: about an hour later three carrots and saying I think 55 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: I fixed them. It's true. 56 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: I think that was it. But he was really I mean, 57 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: he was good. I get nothing mad. That's because it 58 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: was against the White Sox, but also like it was good. 59 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: He was good. 60 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: Katana Saturday same, totally fine. He was against the White Sox. 61 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: But if it I'm coming home for hosing. Katana didn't know. 62 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: Did he get a tribute to the video board. 63 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: I have no clue that I watched as little as 64 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: possible of these games because the Chicago White Sox are 65 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: genuine that's that's unenjoyable baseball. Like, if you're a White 66 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: Sox fan, I totally get not wanting to turn on TV. 67 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: If you're a baseball fan, it is impossible to watch. 68 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: There's almost almost not a single thing of interest with 69 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: that entire team right now. 70 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: We had a bes on the G's moment from my 71 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: buddy sucks in Chicago. I think might be sending a 72 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: voicemail to this game lives out Chicago, diehard Mets fan 73 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: diheard listening to Messed Up podcast after the think I've 74 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: told the story the first time. 75 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, got a podcast bout the Mets. 76 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: Should listen to it. He was like, broughab only a 77 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: fucking podcast. I watch all the things. This guy, Yeah, 78 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: now he. 79 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Loves the show. 80 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: But he said he went to the games on Saturday 81 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 2: and Sunday, possibly Friday as well, but he said Sunday 82 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: he walked into the park, No one checked his ticket, 83 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: just walked into the stadium. No one said where it's, 84 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 2: No one scanned it, no one scanned just entered. 85 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: Through the through the door. They're like, if you want 86 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: to come, sure, get in here. It was dangerous. I 87 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: don't know about that one. 88 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: I mean Friday didn't have that bad of a crowd though, 89 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: but just you can kind of feel like the uh, 90 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, is it like sadness. It's just like 91 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: there's such a horrible malaise over that franchise right now. 92 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: It's terrible. 93 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: It's a real shame with Jerry Hinstorff has done to them, 94 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: because I'm not gonna call them a proud organization, but 95 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: they at least an organization that has had a modic 96 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: come of success sometimes at least here and there in 97 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: their franchise. 98 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we do forget that they they also had 99 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: like a ninety eighty year drought between the Black Socks 100 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: and when they won in the mid two thousands, Like 101 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: this Chicago for some reason, like just was cursed with 102 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: baseball for about ninety years in total, which is kind 103 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: of insane to think about that both teams were so 104 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: insanely unsuccessful. But the White Socks are like one of 105 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: the original baseball teams, So for them to be as 106 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: bad as they are, like having their worst season ever, 107 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: they've already lost more games than they've ever lost in 108 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: a season, which is crazy because again, this team has 109 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: basically been playing baseball since the nineteen hundreds. This isn't 110 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: like the Diamondbacks of the Rockies, who have been around 111 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: for thirty years. Worst season they've had in their history. 112 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: They've been around since the beginning of baseball set nineteen 113 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: oh one, nineteen oh one, and they have the most 114 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: losses ever in a franchise and there is still a 115 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: full month of baseball left. They're a strong fan base, 116 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: like they are good baseball fans. I think out in Chicago, 117 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: especially on the South Side with the White Sox, it 118 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: is just a little bit of a travesy because I 119 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: don't even know if they're they're not really tanking for 120 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: a purpose. Like it's not like you're like there's a 121 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, There's a Stephen Strasburg coming out in the 122 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: draft next year. There's pretty much just we're gonna stink 123 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: because we want to save money. And that's kind of 124 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: the biggest problem, which is also confusing because then they 125 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: did give Andrew benin Tendy the biggest contract in franchise 126 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: history to a free agent last year, so they had 127 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: one bad season, decide we're going to be as bad 128 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: as we physically can be, and we're gonna waste Luis 129 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Robert's most precious years. 130 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: Ever, I think it's more they knew how far away 131 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: they were after the last few years it didn't work out, 132 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: so they were like, instead of just staying in the middle, 133 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: like we tried we've tried to do for a while 134 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: on that, let's just literally gut the entire thing. Resets 135 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: the entire thing. They probably have seven or eight major 136 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: league players, the entire forty man roster. They made all 137 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: those weird traits in the offseason try and just acquire 138 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: volume to fill out was bad. Yeah, there were their 139 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: roster spots. You got guys like Brandon Shoemake and who 140 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: else they get here, Soca Soroka, mcgl vargas, I got 141 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: that Jacob Amaya. Like they just they've been pulling guys 142 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: from other teams who like, maybe they can give us 143 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: something that they didn't give that team. It's just it's 144 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: it's kind of embarrassing, especially considering they again, they've been 145 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: a franchise for one hundred twenty years. They play in 146 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: the second biggest metropolitan area in the entire country. It's 147 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: almost do have also a feel weird like Midwest Mets feel, 148 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: because like, relative to the Cubs, I think they're not 149 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: the most beloved team in the city. And they've also 150 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: done the thing the Mets have done a lot in 151 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: their history where like, oh, let's get the old veteran, 152 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: let's get him on this team, Let's have him play 153 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: the last three years of his career poorly for us 154 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: and say we have a star. 155 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: And also, these two teams will always. 156 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: Be intertwined because Tom sever won his three hundredth game 157 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: as a member of the White Sox in Yankee Stadium, 158 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: which is one of the most fucked up stats in 159 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: the history at baseball. But there's always that feeling here. 160 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: But again, just thank thank the Lord above that the 161 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: Mets were able to take these three games because we 162 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: need them so badly. 163 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, desperately needed them badly. It's nice to see that 164 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: the Padres looked human a little bit. They lost a 165 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: game or two of the Rays, one game to the Rays. 166 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks have been getting beat by the Dodgers, which 167 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: is nice, although today I think they smack the Dodgers around, 168 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: which that's gonna happen and Yang little baseball and hopefully 169 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: the Phillies can take care of the Braves and take 170 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: another one off of them, which be so big. So 171 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: big put us a game out going into our series 172 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: against the Red Sox on Monday, the day you guys 173 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: are listening to us. But end of the day, this 174 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: is a series like we said that had to be one, 175 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: should be one, was one and start to finish. They 176 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: did just kind of take care of business as little 177 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: as possible, if that makes sense, But they did get 178 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: the job done, like in Game one with McGill on 179 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: the mound offensively, Jad Martinez a home run, huge for us. 180 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: Jesse Winker I want to talk about a little bit too. 181 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: He's been hot, phenomenal. He's really starting to look comfortable 182 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: in this line plate. Yeah, at the plate, I mean 183 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: in the field. He's never been great. Who cares? It 184 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: still matter? If it's like this, It's fine. The one 185 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: thing I think we do need to talk about is 186 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: Mendoza's use though of what he does with Winker, Slash 187 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: Tyrone Taylor or whoever's else going to fill in for him. 188 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 1: We gave him a little bit of crap the last 189 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: episode about hitting Tyrone Taylor fifth, hitting Starling Marte early 190 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: in the lineup if you're going to take him out 191 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: of the game as early for defense. Now on the 192 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: flip side here, he's been pulling Jesse Winker, I think 193 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: too early from games. He's been pulling him, like in 194 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: the fifth or sixth inning of a two run game. 195 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: It's bizarre. 196 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: On Sunday he put him in the game in the 197 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: fourth inning when came out for Tyrone Taylor's It's just 198 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: funny how quick and jumping these outfielders. But I think 199 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: a big part of is that he does want to 200 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: keep every single guy warm. He wants to keep every 201 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: single guy in the game as many consecutive days as possible. 202 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: I don't think he wants saying these guys have a 203 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: day where they just sit the whole time, like Mendoza. 204 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: And I think something he does well of the managers 205 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: do poorly's he uses that bench like you have the bench, 206 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: you use the guys do that? Blow ray Is today, Yeah, 207 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: there you go, scoring that big run from first in 208 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: the double Actually pretty nice played by loser Bear off 209 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: the wall. But it's just it's a it's a little 210 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: too active in the game. It's a little bit too 211 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: anxious trying to do every single thing he has to do. 212 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: Mendoz like, yeah, sometimes, Tyrone Taylor, I think in Game 213 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: two came up with an opportunity on Saturday where it 214 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: was like I think five or three to one at 215 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: the time, first and third, Jesse Winkers spot would have 216 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: been up, but it was Tyrone Taylor instead. Tyrone Taylor 217 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: struck out. Love Tyrone great ballplayer, we know that, but 218 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: it would have been nice to have Jesse Winker up, especially 219 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: because it's still early enough in the game where I 220 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: don't think his defense is gonna make that much of 221 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: an impact where his bat can. So I didn't love that. Again, 222 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: the Mets one. So we're just kind of picking and 223 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: picking a little bit things to keep an eye out for. Also, 224 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: shouts to the bullpen. Again, not a good lineup, but 225 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: they did a really good job on Game one or 226 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: Game two. Yeah. Game two, no walks out of the bullpen, 227 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: which is phenomenal. Uh, the same with game one. Yeah, 228 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: same with Game one, which was incredible, just no walks 229 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: from the bullpen, and then even on Sunday, no walks 230 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: from the bullpen. The bullpen did not have a single 231 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: walk in this series. Again, it's the White Sox. Everything 232 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. But a lot of times 233 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: in baseball, these things are mental, These things are vibes. 234 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: Whyse we saw how that changed for the Mets after 235 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: Jorge Lopez got kicked out and they really start to 236 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: just change things up a little bit here. Maybe this 237 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: can just be something that pushes the Mets forward. Garrett 238 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: had two good outings like that's so big, I think 239 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: for his mental game, just knowing like I still got 240 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: it a little bit. Edwin Diaz looked really good on Sunday. 241 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: Dominant Friday just dominant too. All things to build on, 242 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: which is good because we do have some big series 243 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: again continuing to come up. 244 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Friday situation, Edwin Diaz thought was funny, and 245 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: I think you and I and probably some other Mets 246 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: fans were to be nice, like we're confused about it 247 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: in the moment because Edwin Diaz came into this game 248 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: for his third game in three days after blowing the 249 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: save on Wednesday against the Dimonbacks, grabbing the save on 250 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: Thursday game. As to dying back because I'm pitching this 251 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: game where the Mets scored the run, made the full 252 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: run game in the ninth inning. So then the downside, 253 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: just the conversation about this where it doesn't make any sense. 254 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: This was the first time Edwin's been used in three 255 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: consecutive games this entire year, the first time that's been happened, 256 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 2: that's happened since it was either June or July of 257 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. So even when he was at his 258 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: absolute best in twenty twenty two and the team was 259 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: ripping down the stretch trying to do everything they could 260 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. Again, probably some wrong decisions were 261 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: made there by other by people who are making them, 262 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: but they never called on Edwin once the whole second 263 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: half of that year to work three straight days. So 264 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: this is the first time doing that, And I do 265 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: think that now the flip side that the positive is 266 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: I think that some of this was about Edwin staying 267 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: in rhythm, because apparently they've said that something going to 268 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: hurt him in those two audlings. Was that there are a 269 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: lot of times in a few weeks before where Edwin 270 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: got hot, was ready to come in and then sat 271 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: back down because the Mets scored runs. 272 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: That happened this game. The Mets were only up by three. 273 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: They scored one run the ninth inning. 274 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: He had gotten hot, so they're just like, yeah, put 275 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: him in, keep him on rhythm, keep his routine intact, 276 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: and the same thing happened. Not the same thing happened, 277 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: but he just he looked dominanting that outing, and then 278 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: he came in and only on one day of rest 279 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: after three consecutive outings, and looked not as good but 280 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: still quite good again on Sunday. So I think this 281 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: probably is a thing with Edwin where I didn't love 282 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: it in a vacuum that they were like, let's use 283 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: him for three straight times the first time in nineteen months. 284 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: But you flip that back and you're like, Okay, maybe 285 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: it's more about him being in rhythm, him saying this 286 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: will help me be better in the future if I 287 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: do this, even though you guys might think it's weird. 288 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, after the performance on Friday night, by that, that's 289 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: kind of what it felt like in retrospect, Like looking back, 290 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: it had to be an Edwin Daz thing, had to 291 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: be something that they've spoken about, like you've got to 292 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: use me, you've got to use me, and to be 293 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: fair on Sunday one of his sharp routings, So maybe 294 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: there is something to Edwin Diaz staying warm, staying sharp, 295 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: being on top of it like that. 296 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: I didn't think some days wing to be sharp, Brad. 297 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: I think there were a lot of pitches outside the 298 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: strikes on he threw it so like he was getting 299 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: really chased though, so true, he just had some really 300 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: convenient misses because he was still missing armside, which is 301 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: something that we've talked about with him, and the mechanics 302 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 2: aren't right, but he was just missing arm side that 303 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: guy's eyes, and then he was throwing those sliders darting 304 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: low and away, So I think it was just really good. 305 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: That was effectively wild Friday too, he was nine nine 306 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: fastballs and one slider to piggyback on the adding from 307 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: Thursday where he wasn't throwing many sliders again. He went 308 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 2: back to the slither on Sunday, which I think that 309 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: might have been the. 310 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Best a slytherer looked all year. 311 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: I'll give you that one, but I still think I 312 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: don't know it's it's it's it's still tread lightly situation 313 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: with Edwin, but it feels better than it did one week. 314 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: Could go for sure. Yeah, No, definitely, and and something 315 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: that we need to see moving forward. We need Edwin 316 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: Dz to be lights out and hopefully using him more 317 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: helps him because he definitely had some crazy time in between. 318 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: Could I be an asshole? Yes, I'm gonna talk about 319 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: Tyler McGill. What do you want to talk about? 320 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: Uh, he did change one thing. I just gotta do it, asshole. 321 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Then yeah, go for it. 322 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: And uh when he went to the minor leagues, I'm 323 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: just like meeting anshole. I'm gonna tell people a reason 324 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: two percent excited about Tyler McGill again, because one day 325 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: he's going to have a good season. It might not 326 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: be for the Mets, but I'm telling you, one day, 327 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: this guy's gonna be good somehow someway, Yeah, Brewers, Tigers, Dodgers, Astros, 328 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: Mariners Orioles, someone somewhere, somehow, some way, one year he's 329 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: gonna be like Tyler mcchilly always had them. But he 330 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: went back and started working a lot, apparently in a 331 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: two seamer when he went to Triple A, and he 332 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: came back up and used that two seamer, and like 333 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: you love, especially against the righties in this one, every 334 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: single one was in their hands he only gave that 335 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: I think three or four hard hit balls the whole game. 336 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: It was the fact that he was able to command 337 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: the pitch that he really starts to work into his 338 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: repertoire more recently. I thought was really I thought it 339 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: was a big deal. And I think that if he 340 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 2: does have to pitch again next time out, because I 341 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: know it's the day that Paul Blackbird's eligible the next 342 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: star against the Reds that's coming this week. 343 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: I think it's Friday, Saturday, Thursday, whenever it is. I 344 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: don't know. 345 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: It might not be the worst thing in the world, 346 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: because I mean, I'd like to see him face a 347 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: major League Baseball team with that two seamer. But it 348 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: was just a nice wrinkle for a guy that seems 349 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: really like he's trying to keep that pitch cat lower 350 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: and get some weak contact. 351 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: Good which is always something that we've talked about with mcgil. 352 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: He needs to attack more, he needs to attack more, 353 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: he needs to get some of those easy outs, because 354 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: it feels like him and even Peterson, who that's been 355 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: a big thing that he's changed too. Being more aggressive 356 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: in the zone. Getting the soft contact has been huge 357 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: for Peterson. Hopefully McGill can follow in his shoes. What 358 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: else is there to talk about here? On the pitching side, 359 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: watscar Brosebond still scares the shit out of me when 360 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: he steps on the mound. 361 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: I mean on the pitching side, Seum and I being 362 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: like an actual legitimate ace, which is something that has happened, 363 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: and it's been happening, and now it keeps happening. It's like, 364 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: holy fucking shit, like this actually happens to make a 365 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: lot of money. Really is He's gonna be one hundred 366 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: million dollars? Like is gonna make one hundred million dollars 367 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: because of what Jeremy Hefnara and the Mets have done 368 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: to him? 369 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: Which is, who's what's the what's the pitching free agent class? Like, sure, 370 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: I know it's corbyin right, Corbin Burns is the Borbin 371 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: freed Kershaw. I think, technically, yeah, but that's not that's 372 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: not real. I got the name for I got the 373 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: names for you. So for unrestricted free agents that are 374 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: starting pitchers next year. And again, this is great for 375 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: Sean and I are not great for the Mets. It's 376 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: gonna be Verlanders, Scherzer, Corbin Charlie Morton, Corbyn Burns, Max Fried, 377 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: Jack Flaherty, Ayle Hendrik, Shane Bieber, jose A quintanas, A Reno, 378 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot of our guys, Koch de Sclafani, Andrew Heaney. 379 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: Minaya is gonna clean up because he's one of the best, 380 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: and he also isn't one hundred years old. It's him 381 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: and Kokuchi in that tier below like the free than 382 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns, which is is kind of hilarious. But again, 383 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: like you said a few depats ago, like we talked about, 384 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: it's a great stamp of approval on the Mets. We 385 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: are now the rehabilitation home for pictures seeking a one 386 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: year deal. Who think they're better. It's gonna be Shane 387 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Bieber next year, Walker Buehler, Walker Bueher, Shane Bieber, Bieber 388 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: Bieber got the Timmy John in April or May, so 389 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: we might miss most of next year. 390 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: It's going to be Walker Buler next ye. I'm gonna 391 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: put my stamp on right now. Walker Bill's gonna sign 392 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: a one year, fifteen million dollar contract to come join 393 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: the Met. You know who else is a free agent? 394 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: Who your boy? Who? Nick Pavetta. 395 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: I'd give him give him a bag that guy's awesome. 396 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: I'm here, you guys are gonna be insufferable asking for 397 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: Nick Pavetta in the offseason. But Jerry Blevins talked a 398 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: lot in the end of the post game on Sunday 399 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: about Manyah dropping alarm slot helping him get more rising 400 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: action that two seamer, like we've talked about a few 401 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: episodes ago, and then adds deception to both a sweeper 402 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: and the change up because they're able to. I didn't 403 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: really understand what he was saying whatever, he was just 404 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: having that they all getting that release point low where 405 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: he said, help those pitches tunnel off for one another, 406 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: and it got more deception on him. 407 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you a video. Don't know if you 408 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: saw it, but Trevor May was breaking down why Josh 409 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: haters two seamer is like so insanely disgusting. I have 410 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: watched that one. I have watched that one. Yeah, and 411 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: then talking about like the horseshoe movement and basically how 412 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: it gets some appearance that's wobbling along, yeah, which might 413 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: be what is Maniya doing that too? 414 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: I said before the game talking to the guys that 415 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: he's been trying to get more seam shifted wake on 416 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: those pitches, and so I guess the release point probably 417 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: helped them do that. Again, seam shift would wake just 418 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: as I don't understand it's super it's something that's way 419 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: out there, but it's something it's like again, like Mark 420 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: just said, it. 421 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: Makes the ball wobble as it comes through. 422 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: So you're not so it's spinning, but the fact that 423 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: it's wobbling, it's getting movement that's not exactly spin related. 424 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because relatively like when you're when you're looking at 425 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: a baseball, I wish I had, Oh, I do have 426 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: one around me? Let me grab it real quick. Yeah, 427 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: I grab the baseball three hours lay tell for those 428 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: of you watching on YouTube, for those of you not 429 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: bad for you, sorry, But like with the four team, 430 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: the way that spins out of your hand, it's gonna 431 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: spin this way. There's there is a pattern you see 432 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: even though it's spinning so fast, for there's still something 433 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: that you can tell, and it's it's gonna be like 434 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: this this see this kind of horseshoe kind of thing. 435 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: When you're throwing the two seamer, you see a different 436 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: pattern and it's a different look. That's why the ball 437 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: moves differently. What they're saying with Hater, at least in 438 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: this video is because of the way that he throws 439 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: it and because of how much spin he gets. There's 440 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: this appearance of a wobble that the way the ball 441 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: is moving, and it makes it kind of almost flutter 442 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: and dance a little bit while getting that rising action 443 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: and coming in on you if you're a left end 444 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: of the hitter, which makes it so hard to track 445 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: and hit it. 446 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: And another way to kind of simply put it is 447 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: that it makes a two seamer kind of act to 448 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: a four seemer. 449 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've talked about this a lot with Tyler Rodgers. 450 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: Really how he goes underhanded with the slider and it 451 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: makes a slider rise and the fastball drop, which is 452 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: kind of funny. But all these things together is terminia 453 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: into legitimately a guy that is going to get down 454 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: ballot cy young votes. He's doing right now in the 455 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: second half and just like since the end of June, 456 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: really what Kodai Sanga did last year and he got 457 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 2: all this critical acclaim like this is how good manayas 458 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: been is. He alreadys down at three point three five, 459 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: which is stupid and This is my favorite stat because 460 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: this is the pure James Jenks stat of the day. 461 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: But when June ended, Sean Maaya had not completed seven 462 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: innings in a start in like a year and a half, 463 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: or maybe did it once with the Giants or twice 464 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: the Giants. Since July first, he's done it seven times 465 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: and twelve starts. That's the most in baseball. He's become 466 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: one of the league's true workhorses. I you can't even 467 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: make that shit up. Like we pushed that one right 468 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: into existence, and it's it's amazing. And Carls Mendos after 469 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: the game is like, I see Manaias are one. 470 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: Now he is orace. He's pitching that way. He's earned 471 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: that right. Yeah, he's been incredible. I mean the the 472 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: whip is under one in his last fifteen starts, his 473 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: last seven starts zero point seven to eight whip a 474 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: two four to two ERA, forty four and two thirds 475 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: innings and seven starts with fifty three strikeouts nine walks. 476 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: That right there, the nine walks to strikeouts is just. 477 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: Like that sex, especially when that was his problem before, 478 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: Like it was lata walks and strikeouts and it caused 479 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: the short their adding to his pitchhoun go up. Now, 480 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: the fact that he's being more aggressive, he's getting more 481 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: swings and misses in that two seamer. He's not as 482 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: afraid to throw that in the zone because no hitterers 483 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: aren't gonna be able to hit it. It's a whole 484 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: new pitcher. It's just he's it's it's amazing what he's done. 485 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: And again it's gotta be hats off to Jeremy Afner 486 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: for this one where I don't know where everyone's at, 487 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: but they want. 488 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: To hate this guy. Yeah, if anybody is a doubter 489 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: of him, this this right here, Look look at what 490 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: he's doing. He searched Trump and I into what everybody 491 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: thought Trump and I could have been at that point. 492 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: But this is what he could be. This is nonsense. No, no, no, 493 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: I'm not saying with the Mets. I'm saying, like when 494 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: was coming up, when Serump and I was coming up, 495 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: people were like, this could be a future frontline starter. 496 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: He's now hitting that stride thanks to Jeremy Hefner, and 497 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: I can't wait for can't wait to see what's gonna 498 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: go on there because he's he's been incredible and I 499 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: hope he keeps pitching as well as he has. The 500 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Mets really needed, really needed totally. I got some other 501 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: just silly, silly stats from this series J J. Martinez. 502 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: I think he's swinging the bat a lot better. He 503 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 2: said he's heating up. He still don't feel like he's 504 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: hot yet. But from May sixth to July first, he 505 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: only had two off days. As the Mets are on 506 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: that run, playing well, but he was banging bad them 507 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: playing well, But it seemed like he kind of fell 508 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: off a little bit after that stretch and he got tired. 509 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: He's got four off days. 510 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: In his last twenty eight games alone, saws twenty eight 511 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: Mets games alone, and now he's starting to hit better games. 512 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: I think it's nice day he's getting those breaks and 513 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: doing that. And also, Lindor hit the big home run 514 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: on Sunday, the only run scored in this game until 515 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: the top of the ninth inning, thirty game on bass streak. 516 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: Just got his new career high with the home run Sunday, 517 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: and he has a hit in twenty seven of those 518 00:19:59,320 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: thirty games. 519 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: He is, Uh, he's pretty incredible. I think he's on 520 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: a twelve game hitch streak now. As well inside that 521 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: thirty base on game streak and how great is this? 522 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: On omb dot com we can get his live stats 523 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: for the last thirty games. Seven homers seventeen RBIs three 524 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: twenty average, three sixty five on base five seventy slugging 525 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: For those of you at home, that's an OPS in 526 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: the nine hundreds. Oh yeah, and he plays goal glove defense. 527 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he is just he said, he's everything. 528 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: I love him, and it's like one of my favorite 529 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: stats in the world. Right now, he has a higher 530 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: WRC plus than either of his huge big years in 531 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen, because in those years, the 532 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: ball was bullshit and the league was bullshit, and that's 533 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: why we have to get Jake de grim aldacret in 534 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: the world. 535 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: Fleet did pitching in those two years. 536 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: However, right now, in terms of league context, this is 537 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: the best Francisco Indoor has ever hit in his entire career. 538 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: September first, twenty nine homers eighty RBIs twenty five stolen 539 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: bases eight thirty one ops. That is literally higher than 540 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: his average slash line ops. He's having the best year 541 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: of his career. James, you called it months ago. 542 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: I told you because it was happening. 543 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: He's been locked in since and I just pready got 544 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: this team is good enough, and maybe show how he 545 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: winds up forty eight forty nine so he doesn't have 546 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: that clean fifty fifty number to get so we can 547 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: get Lindor in MVP. 548 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: Did you hear the story about Lindor and the smile 549 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: stuff with him and why he apparently does once a 550 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: month he brings in uh at risk youth I guess 551 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: into city field or wherever he does it to give 552 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: like almost like a lesson about how important dental health is. Stop. 553 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: Lindor's a big dental health guy, and apparently you're just 554 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: even the health guy. I care about dental health. I 555 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: think dentists and orthodontists are overrated, but I care about 556 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: brush your teeth every day, take care of him. I 557 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: just don't think you need to go and six months 558 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: to have a dentist tell you, oh, I'm gonna clean 559 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: your teeth, and then go you have no cavities, give 560 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: me money. I think that's where they're a scam. But 561 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: I can't. 562 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: I can't wait until we have the dentist. Noorthodontis listening 563 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: to the show they're now anti markers. He's the Oh, 564 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: super It's that's fine, you know what, That's fine. I'm 565 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: glad with dentists being anti mark You can like James 566 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: still like the podcast, you can hate me. But end 567 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: of the day, Uh, where was I going with the story? 568 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Wrapping it up? Lindor was super self conscious, had really 569 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: bad teeth as a case, and I guess had braces 570 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: kind of late in his life growing up, so he 571 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: was he hated smiling because he hated the braces. His 572 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: teeth throw drank up as we know now, gorgeous smile, 573 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: great teeth on him. I think somebody the best literally 574 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: his nickname, mister Smile. So they were telling a story 575 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: about how ironic it is that Franciscoolndor hated smiling as 576 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: a kid because he had bad teeth, didn't really take 577 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: care of them for a while. And now that's what 578 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: he's known for, is having one of the best smiles 579 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: in baseball. I love that. 580 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's just one of the most beautiful 581 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: things about baseball in this wonderful game. You could put 582 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: all that together and help help the people. 583 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: All right, you wonder, let's let's pick let's pick a 584 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: voicemail right now, let's go on voicemails. 585 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: I want to do one more dumb stat about this series. 586 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: And then because what if they asked the question that 587 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: dumb stack could come into the question. There's no way 588 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: this comes in. But this is just a bus is 589 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: a personal hill. I like to die and you know 590 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: I like to die in this hill for a long time. 591 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: That the stat line drive rate is poppy cock. It's 592 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: bully nat, It's complete bullshit. Because Gary dropped a quote 593 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: in the series. Is a lot of credit to Garian 594 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: Ron the series doing anything they can to give the 595 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: White Sox. 596 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: Like anything to talking about. Also amazing. Did you see 597 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: the spider walk across the camera on Friday before the tailor? 598 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: I was on a flight. 599 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So in the like the first or second ending, 600 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: a spider walked across the camera lens for SA and 601 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 2: why what those are? And the spider was hanging out 602 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: on the camera lens were on the camera. It looked 603 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: like it was all the way down the right field line, 604 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: which is exactly where in like the six or seventh 605 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: inning of this game, Tyron Taylor made the exact catch 606 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: spider manning in the net that Jeff McNeil made same 607 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: time of year in twenty nineteen and did the same 608 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: thing where the spider was standing on the camera. 609 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: Do they have fences or the netting further down than 610 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: most teams, because I swear I've never seen anybody do 611 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: these catchers except the Mets players in Chicago. It's looser too. 612 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: It's a nice net But back to the point, Gary 613 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: said that Gavin Cheese has the highest line drive rate 614 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: in baseball, which would tell everybody forever that line drive 615 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: rate is a fake stat that should never be sighted ever. 616 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: I technically hard ground balls that like one hop second 617 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: base I think counted as line drives, right, I think. 618 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: They do it if it's over ten degrees, launch angle 619 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: in less than like twenty seven degrees, lunch angles, which 620 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: you could a top. 621 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: Spin ten degrees and that could be a ground ball. Yeah. Yeah. 622 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: And Garyan Rowl was talking about lot Jngle because they 623 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 2: were saying if someone there, because they did the thing that, 624 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: like I think a lot of people have realized, wh 625 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: Abazon jungle also is not a real stat because correct 626 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: if you have a pit a pop up sixty degrees 627 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: and ground ball zero degrees, it comes out to thirty degrees, 628 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: thirty degrees amazing, sixteen zeroble horrible. 629 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: So I think he is a dumb stat. I'll just 630 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: a couple a couple of dumb stats there, all right, 631 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: pull out your phone because you got the better mic 632 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: for me this episode here, and uh, I'm gonna say, 633 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: let's start off with Jack. Jack. I think he was 634 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: the first one that gave us, gave us a message 635 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: and he said, let's go. Louiener, so he's he's ready 636 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: to roll on this one. Okay, I'm doing it right now, 637 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: loot them up. Good podcasting. Shack. Is he in the general? 638 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: He's in general general? Okay, he's in general. Well, we 639 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: have a bunch here, nice. Yeah, we got some good ones. 640 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: So let's see what Jack's gotta say. All right, here 641 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: we go, Jack, what's up? 642 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: Louiener and Jeter had no range, great series in Chicago. 643 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: All I gotta say is Semester back, absolutely no doubt. 644 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: Chessa winkers a stud film. Aton's looking like Trevor Hoffman 645 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: coming out of the bullpen. You got guys Schlutching right 646 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: coming up, big Red, Garrett Splitter looks good. You got 647 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 3: Christian Scott throwing bullpens. Maybe Senga's coming back for the 648 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 3: Braves series. 649 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: That would be big. 650 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: I know everyone's fixated on the Braves right now, but 651 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the d Backs. Their schedule for the 652 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 3: next month is pretty rough. I know they're smoking the 653 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: Dodgers right now, but who cares about that? 654 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: Dodgers are frauds as well. 655 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: And do you know, if we have a really good 656 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: home stand here, I might be ready to say the 657 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: forbidden phrase that the Mets are winning at all. But 658 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 3: we'll have to see LFGM. Love what you guys do over. 659 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: There, all right? Jack, Jack brought the heat. Jack brought 660 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: the heat. Thank you. He said two things I will 661 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: not say this year. That first one about the Mets 662 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: being something and the second one about the Mets winning something. 663 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: Those will not come out of my mouth this year. 664 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: I've not said it. Now we're in September, I haven't 665 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: said it yet. I've refused to because it feels like 666 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the case of death. Jack said it, 667 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: not us, But yeah, he was right. I mean, I mean, 668 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: Mayton looked really good too, and great in the bullpenal 669 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: since we picked them up, and Rigarrett splitter was working. 670 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 4: Now. 671 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's also because the White Sox 672 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: have bad hitters and they were able to chase it 673 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: more because they stink. But we'll take you for what 674 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: it is, and he's right. We'll get into the Diamondbacks. 675 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: We want to. We want to push multiple teams out 676 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: of here. Just keep winning baseball games. Hope they start 677 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: to lose, which they definitely can. 678 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 2: I said, we have another request, but I can't find this. 679 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: You can go on the Instagram and find it. But 680 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do one from our guy Brandon, who has 681 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: been He's been trying to get in this voicemail for 682 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: attle while now, so Brandon's voicemail coming at you. 683 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: This was a. 684 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 5: Very, very big series for us. We had to win this. 685 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 5: I'm glad we swept. Now we go home and we 686 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 5: have to take care of business against the Red Sox 687 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 5: and the Reds. This is critical, critical, critical, critical for 688 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 5: us to win. We can get in if we keep winning, 689 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 5: but everyone needs to step up. I think Pete had 690 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 5: a pretty good series, Lindor. I love the MVP chans, 691 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 5: it's fucking great. And other than that, I think Nimmel 692 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 5: had okay series, But I think he could be better. 693 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 5: I think he's playing hurt but at left GM. This 694 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 5: is the best podcast. I love you guys, and let's 695 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: fucking go Mets. 696 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: Let's fucking go Mets. Thanks Brandon, I Go Mets, Brandon. 697 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 2: It's funny this kind of like sports radio, but with 698 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: some critsis. We maybe should give like a directive next voicemail, 699 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: tell people ask a question or come with something ready 700 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: to go, because we don't screen these Beforehanks we wanted. 701 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: We want to be surprised along with you guys, So 702 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pick another random one we do. 703 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: Hold on. It's also funny you can tell who listens 704 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: to New York's talk radio like sports radio and who doesn't, 705 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: because they all do the same pauses that all these 706 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: guys do where it's like say something three seconds, let 707 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: you sit, here's my next thought, like they and you're 708 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: a WFN guy, I know, so you know that well. 709 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: But I've like I've been watching some old clips of 710 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: just francessoor Don Lagreca like freaking out, like doing their 711 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: nonsense thing, and it is so funny that all these 712 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: guys at the end of they do all just keep 713 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: the same cadence with different voices of accents. Yeah right, 714 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: all right, we got another one coming here from Jason. 715 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 6: So, guys love the pod. I think this is your 716 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 6: best season yet, maybe for obvious reasons, but anyway, I've 717 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 6: been listening for a couple of years and I think 718 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 6: it's great, so very much appreciate it. Anyway, My question 719 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 6: is a bit open ended. It's about Mendoza. I think 720 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 6: he's been fantastic with the lineup. I've loved his flexibility 721 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 6: and his willingness to shake the lineup up in ways 722 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 6: that especially guys like Buck have not been in the past. 723 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 6: But having said that, his bullpen management, to me, leaves 724 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 6: a good amount to be desired. It feels like he's 725 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 6: always pulling guys early, or pulling them too late, or 726 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 6: not giving relievers clean innings and maybe overusing guys and 727 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 6: even Newtonia is coming back from the Ali then gives 728 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 6: them two innings for some reason, then he gets hurt again. 729 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 6: So I know that you guys love him, so I'd 730 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 6: love to hear the argument that you guys have in 731 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 6: defense of him all around, not just with regards to 732 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 6: the lineup, but also with regards to the bullpen. Also, 733 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 6: i'd like to hear why you guys hate Gelb so much, 734 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 6: But if you don't answer that part, it's all right anyway, 735 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 6: I appreciate it. Thanks guys. 736 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: I'll answer Gelbs really quickly. Yeah, there's like there's like 737 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: no actual real hatred for him, like he's a nice 738 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: guy or whatever. It's just that when we worked with 739 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: the team and we were on the field, everybody else 740 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: would say hello. He never once looked at us and 741 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: said hello. That's really it. 742 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone was really friendly. There was one moment at 743 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: spring training when we were there last year where I 744 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: was standing talking to Will Salmon, shout out Will Samon 745 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: with the athletic, great guy, great reporter, big Mets fans. 746 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: Will Well's awesome. It does amazing work. I mean him, 747 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: were just like talking to a conversations. We're talking about 748 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: the roster, pete or something, and Steve stands like in 749 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: front of me and to ask Will something, and he 750 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: just walks away and like doesn't even acknowledge that we 751 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: were in the middle of a conversation. I was like, 752 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: all right, I think this guy's just kind of I 753 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: don't know, he's got a little little popas flare about him. 754 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean the guys on this and why. The last 755 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: few people have had that have gone into great things. 756 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: So I think he probably just thought he's a little 757 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: bit above us. Again, we've never actually spoke to the 758 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: guy because it seemed like he wanted nothing to ever 759 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: do with us, and look the other way anytime we 760 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: were in the same room. But whatever, he's fine. There's 761 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: no like actual outside him. It's just fun. Now it's 762 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: a bit yeah. Now it's like if anybody calls a moonface, 763 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: you know it comes from us. 764 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: Like that's great, And that's also another thing we'd like 765 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: to do with you guys, like keep these little things 766 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: going together. But then back to the Jason's question about Mendoza, 767 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: I think that I don't think we like love Mendoza. 768 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: I think Mendoz like unfallible. I just think that in 769 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: terms of like what you can do for a modern manager, 770 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: I think the most important things for sure in the 771 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: game right now. 772 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: People can disagree with me on this. R vibes like 773 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: you need to be able to be. 774 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: A babysitter of twenty six millionaires and like maybe maybe 775 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: maybe seventeen millionaires and a couple other one hundred thousand 776 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: airs and like try to manage all the egos and 777 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: manage everyone's likes and dislikes and idiosyncrasies. I think he 778 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: does that super super well. I do think he gets 779 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: into a little trouble sometimes with some roster stuff, which 780 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: is the lineup stuff we were talking about before, not the 781 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: line of the substitution stuff, and then once in a 782 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: while the bullpen stuff. But the other side of that 783 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: is the bullpen fucking sucks. So it's hard for him 784 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: to like really find a perfect path forward always. 785 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I'm gonna defend Buck here. Get ready 786 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: for this. I'm gonna defend him. The team that he 787 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: had in twenty twenty two was just so much more complete, 788 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: so there wasn't a necessity to have to make moves 789 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: as much as this Mets roster does. Like you kind 790 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: of knew what the bullpen was gonna look, like, you 791 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: knew what the situation was, You knew what the lineup 792 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: was every single day. This Mets lineup, while it's it's fantastic, 793 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: they hit really well. Part of the reason why I 794 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: think it's worked has because has been because they've been 795 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: very fluid and where they are and playing the matchups, 796 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: and like you said, with the bullpen, if we had 797 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: a seventh inning guy, if we had an eighth inning guy, 798 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: ed when Diaz lights out, that's it. I'm sure Carlos 799 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Mendoza would love to be like, oh my god, it's 800 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: seventh I know exactly what I'm doing. But the bullpen's 801 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: been so bad that I think he's just trying to 802 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: find the right button to push at the time. And 803 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: when that happens, sometimes you're gonna be wrong, sometimes you're 804 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: gonna be right. But yeah, for a first season, incredibly 805 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: impressed with him. I think that's kind of where we 806 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: stand right now. Like you said, not infallible, but definitely 807 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: we're doing a really good job with what the Mets 808 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 1: have been able to do. Totally next y smell from 809 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: I think one of our younger listeners, THEO all right, THEO. 810 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: So Mark and James Hey, maybe not James. They know 811 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 4: me the Mets on Twitter. I know I DM you 812 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 4: a lot and you never respond. It's a great series 813 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: out there in Chicago. Of course, you would have preferred 814 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 4: to not use Edwin twice in that series, but I 815 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 4: guess you just kind of keep him sharp with how 816 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: little he's been pitching, and I just want to know 817 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: what you guys are thinking with Nimo because you know, 818 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: when you look at a savant page he has he 819 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: actually has a higher br V than Francisco Lindor, but 820 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: the success just hasn't been there. So I was, you know, 821 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 4: kind of looking for your your input there. You know, 822 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 4: maybe it's something with the approach that he's taking, or 823 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 4: is it Eric Shave is telling him to hit more singles, not. 824 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: If you we got ten more seconds of. 825 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 6: Uh? 826 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 4: Just yeah, I really love the podcast, have been listening 827 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: for a while. If you do end up listening to 828 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 4: voicemail things. Love you guys so much. James follow me. 829 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: On Twitter THEO. 830 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: Sorry, I can not get into the dms. I've my 831 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: dms are very open for a very long time, and 832 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: now this is just I get like, I love it 833 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: because a lot of you guys like ask me things, 834 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: want to talk about the Mets all time. But I 835 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: have so many dms my inbox right now. 836 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: That James, it's just happening. 837 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: Once in a while, I just can't get through them all. 838 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm just like, ah, oh oh, I know it's bad. 839 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: Man of the people. I'm still mad at the people 840 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: I still get to do a lot of them, but 841 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: there's just some. Like he messaged me like eight hours ago, 842 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: I sent him one back. I haven't sent him one 843 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: back since. But they it's been at the end of July, 844 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: so you know, one month I can answer. I'm sorry THEO, 845 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: but it's been It's hard sometimes. But about Nimo, it 846 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: does feel like it's kind of injury related. 847 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: I related. 848 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: THEOS is about br V, which is Baseball Savant's based 849 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: running value, which is value they give. 850 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: Running batting value. I guess it's batting. I get to 851 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: both be RV. It's it's probably be yes. Maybe I'm 852 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: sure he's talking about badding. 853 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: I think with Savant we'll do is they'll give you 854 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: a lot more credit because especially for a guy like 855 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: Nimo who once still hits the ball hard consistently over 856 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: the full year, is what it says. These are all 857 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: full year stats. He still doesn't chase very much compared 858 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: to the average. Hither, he doesn't whiff whif sid of 859 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: league gaverage rad he walks a ton like. That's all 860 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: stuff that batting run Value will give you credit for 861 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 2: in Savon. And these are a lot of things Nimo 862 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: did really really well in the first half when he 863 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 2: was really really good. But he's not been that good 864 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: as good recently. His powers dipped over the last month. 865 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: He's been chasing more, he's been whipping more over the 866 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: last month. It's not that good. Post All Star break, 867 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: he's a one eighty eight hitter with a five seventy 868 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: nine ops with two home runs vereaus his sixteen pre 869 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: All Star break. 870 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was good. I was gonna bring up 871 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: those numbers. I think I talked about on the podcast before. 872 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: DeRosa did a really good breakdown of why brand Nimo 873 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: was having that breakout that we saw earlier in the year, 874 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: and it was because he was keeping that front shoulder in. 875 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: And ever since he's he's made a couple of weird, 876 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: awkward diving plays. He had a couple of rollovers, he 877 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: had that weird slide at home plate where we thought 878 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: he got hurt. Ever since then, it seems like he's 879 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: flying open a lot more. When you fly open, you 880 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: just don't have the same punch on the ball. The 881 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: pitch has to be on the inside corner basically for 882 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: him to hit it hard, and he's just not making 883 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: the same damage. And now because he's not doing the 884 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: same damage. He's probably pressing and being a little bit 885 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: more aggressive and going outside the zone a little more 886 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: than he's used to. I think it's just a combination 887 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: of everything, and I think it does all come back 888 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: to probably not being one hundred percent. Remember, brandonmo has 889 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: been a guy who really has never actually played like 890 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: a full season too often. He usually does have some 891 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: Nixon bruises throughout the year, and we've even seen it 892 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: this season, But I respect the fact that he's playing 893 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: through it and hopefully it gets better again. We have 894 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: no reason to believe that there is any injury outside 895 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: of the fact that he's just got ice cold, and 896 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: especially on the power side, there's nothing there when it 897 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: looked like he just figured out how to hit for 898 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: power for the first time. 899 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: Also, you just made that comment about him not playing 900 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: a full season. He's played at least one hundred and 901 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 2: fifty games in two straight years and this year he's 902 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: tracking to do that again. So he has been a 903 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: full season guy recently. It's kind of like Trey Turner, where, 904 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: oh my god, this guy's are injury. When you wake 905 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 2: up one day, I was like, Oh, this guy plays 906 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: every single game suddenly. And I think sometimes as fans 907 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: or like content created as analysts whatever it is fantasy 908 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: baseball players, we sometimes can conflate a guy sucking or 909 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: being cold with the guy actually playing through injuries. I 910 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 2: think they just came out recently that Kee Brian Hayes 911 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: has been one of the worst hitlers in baseball this 912 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: year's but the entire season with a herniated disk in 913 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: his back. Yeah, that doesn't seem very fun. I'm trying 914 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: to think of other examples the last few years, but 915 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: some are Remember when really cool to end. 916 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: The year one year, and it was because he had 917 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: a broken handsate bone. Remember last year Fanisco Lindoor. 918 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 2: Again, he was great, but he played the whole year 919 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: with bone spurs in his elbow and he had to 920 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: take it. Took him a month to figure out how 921 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: to manage that pain. So I think these guys deal 922 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: with a lot more than we realized. I think that's 923 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: an important part of baseball and just sports in general, 924 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: just humanity in general. Just give these guys a break sometimes. 925 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: But I don't see anyway this really gets a lot 926 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 2: better in time soon. 927 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: He has. 928 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: He has been trending up for the last like two 929 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: weeks or so, which might tell us something from his 930 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: how as bad as he was this year. But I'm 931 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: not holding my breath waiting for Brandon must say this team. 932 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: I think this comes down to Lindor Alonzo, JJ Martinez, 933 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: Jesse Winker, Charlie Marte, the rest of the bats in 934 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 2: the lineup. 935 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really hope he turns around. But we've been okay 936 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: without him. It's only gonna be plus when he comes back. Yep, 937 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: let's see. You want to do a couple more? Yeah, 938 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: keep you know what we asked for him. We're thirty 939 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: five minutes in. We have nothing else to talk about 940 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: outside of these voicemails and previewing the Red Sox series. 941 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: So let's go. Let's get the people their voice heard. 942 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: All right. We got George George. 943 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 7: Mark James, long time listener. Thank you guys for doing this. 944 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 7: I just I've been drinking like thirty eggs a day 945 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 7: for about two weeks now, you know, trying to get 946 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 7: my fastball vlos up. I have no reason to throw 947 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 7: one hundred miles an hour, but if that's all it takes, 948 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 7: and I've. 949 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: Been doing it, you know, wait, well that's it. 950 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 7: And then a real question. I was wondering what you 951 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 7: guys were thinking as far as pitching. In regard to 952 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 7: Christian Scott and Code, I singa, I know that there 953 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 7: is some hope that they could be back by the 954 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 7: end of September, but is that something we should realize 955 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 7: really sickly be looking out for. And I don't know 956 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 7: what do you know of any Triple A arms that 957 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 7: could come out, like Luke, Kez or anyone else. 958 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 4: Thanks? 959 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: All right, So first shout out Ryan Lambert called up 960 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: to Brooklyn. Our boys called up to Brooklyn, which is 961 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: fantastic news. That is straight away Skip Saint Lucy way 962 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: ahead of schedule and shout out to him as well, 963 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: shout him at Texas like congrats out. He's like, let's 964 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: fucking go. Dude's just a vibe. He's such a dog. 965 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: I hope he does well. I love him. We can't 966 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: wait for it. But then, in terms of Christian Scott, 967 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: from what the Mets have been saying, I think Sterns 968 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: and Mendoz I've talked about a little bit. He's throwing 969 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: these bullpens. 970 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: He seems like if he comes back, which is definitely 971 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 2: still not a guarantee thing, it very likely will be 972 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: in a relief role. I can't see him throwing more 973 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 2: than thirty or forty pitches in and outing because basically 974 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: almost done this what's which is fucking great right now? 975 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this that would be amazing because two 976 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: years in a row now he's dealt with this elbow 977 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 2: thing around the same time of year, after both times 978 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: getting to new career highs and workloads. So it seems 979 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: like they really have to be careful with him because 980 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: if if something in their snaps, I will you guys, 981 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 2: you guys won't even hear from me for a few days. 982 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: I'll go and I'll go into a hole or crawl 983 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 2: into the corner of my closet and cry in the dark. 984 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 2: But I think that's kind of exactly what this Mets 985 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 2: team needs right now with I'm not saying they don't 986 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 2: need another starter, but I also don't I can't see 987 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 2: code that coming back until the best of the last 988 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: week of the regular season because that calf injury also 989 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: doesn't seem like a joke at all. But if they 990 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: can still just get by with a combination of Blackburnd 991 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: and McGill, because I do think that I don't think 992 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: do we get officially a guy in the on the 993 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: roster today, a pitcher with the roster we. 994 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: Did we got or Alex Yeah, it was Alex Young, 995 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: Alec Young. 996 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: So again, like I think it's more of continuing to 997 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 2: get through the hodgepodge of the forty man rather than 998 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 2: like a guy who's gonna come up be an impact guy. 999 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: But I think it's going to keep them doing that. 1000 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 2: I think McGill's going to get another shot maybe at 1001 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 2: some point to stay on this roster, maybe do another 1002 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 2: abbreviate stint, anything to help the team win. But it's 1003 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna be more of the same in the last 1004 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 2: month with pitching rather than new stuff. I think a 1005 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: lot of Mets fans thought there was gonna be something 1006 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 2: new coming last week because Taylor Rogers was put on 1007 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 2: w and he went totally unclaimed. I think a lot 1008 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: of people. I saw Diambacks fans are upset about it. 1009 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 2: I saw some Dodgers fans are upset about it. I 1010 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 2: think that when these guys get put on waivers this 1011 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 2: time of year, because basically all these guys just came 1012 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: through and almost no one was claimed. 1013 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: What the Angels did last. 1014 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: Year was unique which is they put a lot of 1015 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 2: the guys who had one year deals on waivers, so 1016 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 2: it was free to sign them. Taylor Rodgers was due. 1017 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 2: I believe those thirteen million dollars guaranteed in twenty twenty 1018 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: five if a team would have claimed him right now, 1019 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: paid the pro rated twenty twenty four salary, which would 1020 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 2: have been very much. But I don't think that the Mets, 1021 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 2: or clearly anybody else in baseball wants to be on 1022 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: the hook for an aging reliever for fourteen million dollars 1023 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. It's just too much money for reliever. 1024 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: You should I'd rather go try and get the next 1025 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 2: daed Nel Nuniaz than lock in one reliever for that 1026 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: much money. 1027 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: Definitely, And yeah, with the starting pitching Blackbird's coming back, 1028 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the option. 1029 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 2: I mean again, also for Mets fans who might be like, 1030 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: doesn't matter, we need them right now, think about the 1031 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 2: contracts we gave to Sean and I and Luis Severino. Yeah, 1032 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 2: these guys make the money that you'd be giving Taylor 1033 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: Rodgers next year. It's a no brainer not to take 1034 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: that money on sack. 1035 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: Correct, Some of those guys throw five innings at work, 1036 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: they throw five. This guy throws one like it's it 1037 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: is a no brainer whatsoever. But thank you for chiming 1038 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: in there, George appreciate. Shout out to listening to the 1039 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: Lambert Interview. Yeah, shout listening Lambert interview. Shout everybody listen 1040 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: to an interview because it's a great pick. Because Lambert, 1041 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: he's the egg man. I love it. 1042 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 8: Hey, guys, this is evan lifelong Mets fan. I definitely 1043 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 8: enjoyed listening to you, guys. I'm a bit of a newbie, 1044 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 8: but it's uh, it's definitely good stuff. 1045 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: So welcome. 1046 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 8: So good to see the Mets get a little closer 1047 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 8: to Atlanta yesterday. Hopefully the Phillies can take care of 1048 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 8: business again, uh this evening and get the Mets even closer. 1049 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 8: Random thought like, I don't think I ever thought around 1050 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 8: how the Mets starting pitching is starting to come in 1051 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 8: the form. You know, it's always been something that's been 1052 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 8: hot and. 1053 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 5: Cold this year. 1054 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 8: But honestly, like it's saying I can get back this 1055 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 8: idea of a singa you know, Severino, Peterson and Naya, 1056 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 8: you know, four man rotation. I don't know, we'll deal 1057 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 8: with the five man thing. But regardless, that's pretty solid. 1058 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 8: I like that going into a playoff scenario for the Mets, 1059 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 8: so you know, still got to figure out the shaky bullpen. 1060 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 8: But interesting how that's kind of come together. 1061 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say is it's so funny that 1062 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: all Mets fans are drinking the same kool aid right now. 1063 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: Which if Sanga comes back, man, oh my, if he 1064 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: can be back for that Brave series, I'm I'm gonna 1065 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure Jame's gonna match my same opinion here. Just 1066 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: just take it as if he's not coming back, take 1067 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: it as if he's out for the year, and be surprised, 1068 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: be excited if anything else happens. But I think this 1069 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: is PTSD, Jacob de Gram, every single guy that we 1070 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: do it over there. 1071 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 2: I was I was switching to Instagram to load more 1072 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 2: requests and I clicked out to the timeline. 1073 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha. We have PTSD. We have a last few years, 1074 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: we've had a lot of pictures with injuries and going 1075 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: if they come back, if they come back. I mean, 1076 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 1: we've heard this for five, six, seven years. Now, let's 1077 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 1: just rock with the team we got now and if 1078 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: code I sang is available for any game during the 1079 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 1: rest of this twenty twenty four season, any inning, any inning, 1080 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: any pitch, one pitch. We should be celebrating, We should 1081 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: be through the roof, because that means we're in it, 1082 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 1: and that means he's healthy, and that means he's pitching. Otherwise, 1083 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: I think we gotta not rely on him and look 1084 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: forward to him coming back right now, because there is 1085 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: a probably more than good chance that he doesn't come 1086 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: back this season. High chance. 1087 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 2: Probably he's probably seven out of ten sans chance he 1088 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: does not come back this season. But I do think 1089 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 2: there is still something to what Evan was saying that 1090 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: the thirty percent chance he does come back maxed with 1091 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 2: the thirty percent chance that we even. 1092 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: Reached the playoffs. I don't know. 1093 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm not a probability guy, but that probably gives us 1094 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 2: ten percent chance of both those things happening. Sangam and 1095 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: I started the playoffs series. He's not as bad as 1096 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: it felt a few months ago back, and you can 1097 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 2: you can fuck around a wildcard series and and mess 1098 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 2: him body up with that. I'll tangle with the Brewers 1099 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 2: or those two guys at the top. 1100 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: Oh, all day, I'll tangle all day with them. 1101 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: Now we've got a few more. We got two, we 1102 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: have three more in here and more. We have more 1103 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 2: requests coming in, but we got Beck, Quintin and Joe 1104 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: for sure coming on. 1105 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: So Beck first. 1106 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 9: The biggest takeaway from this series Francisco Lindor MVP over Shotani. 1107 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 9: I don't care about any of that Shohoshani making history 1108 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 9: and everything, because Lindor is out there playing MVP baseball 1109 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 9: every single day on both sides of the ball. Listen 1110 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 9: Otani's focusing on only batting. If Lindor was a switch hitter, 1111 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 9: dh bro, he'd be having like a fifty to fifty 1112 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 9: season now I'm playing, but like for real, though, Lindor 1113 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 9: MVP over Otani some of the highest war in baseball. 1114 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 9: He's fucking Elita defense. That's all I gotta say about 1115 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 9: this series is that Lindor is the MVP. 1116 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: All right, Beck to legend for that one. I mean, 1117 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good take, Like he makes all the 1118 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: right points. He has the highest F four in National 1119 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: League Baseball six point eight. That is point three higher 1120 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: than Otani and almost a full now point higher than 1121 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: Elie de la Cruz. Oh dude, he's right Otani doesn't 1122 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: play the field. Otani has been so damn good at 1123 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: the plate. There's no doubt he is a way better 1124 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: hitter than Prince School Indoor. And if he gets fifty 1125 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: to fifty, there's no shot he doesn't win it. But 1126 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: if we're talking to if the MVP is truly the 1127 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: most valuable player to their team, I don't think there's 1128 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: been a player in the National League that's been more 1129 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: valuable than Francisco Indoor to the Mets. 1130 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: Can I throw you a scenario, You can throw it 1131 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: to me. Pretend we're living in. 1132 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: A bizarre world. Close my eyes. 1133 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Francisco Indoor having this exact season is on 1134 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, and Shohotani having this exact season one season. 1135 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: Right now is on the Mets. How does that affect 1136 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: each of those teams? 1137 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 2: And if you're the Los Angeles Dodgers, bonus question, which 1138 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 2: season would you rather be having on your team with 1139 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 2: your roster? 1140 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 4: Oh? 1141 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so Otani on the Mets, Yes, it's probably gonna 1142 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: pick him. There, probably gonna pick the guy having fifty 1143 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: to fifty. I'm not gonna lie even if he's just 1144 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: the DH You don't think that right now, that the 1145 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: Dodgers had like a shortstop, he's gonna be thirty five 1146 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 1: to thirty five play. Wait, are we taking Miguel Rojas 1147 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: and putting him at short stop? Is that what we're 1148 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: doing too? For the Mets? Then theoretically know just which 1149 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 1: you're you're figuring out the rest of the rosters. 1150 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 2: But those two guys switch plays. That's such a that 1151 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 2: is a really hard question. Well, and but it makes 1152 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 2: it makes the debate kind of seem very realistic. Where 1153 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: if the Dodgers had this shortstop playing at this level 1154 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: and they had to mix and match a DH, they 1155 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: could put Monsy there and they could figure out the 1156 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 2: rest of the fucking field. I don't think they're even 1157 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 2: down a game in the standings. They might be up 1158 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 2: a few actually, And if you took Francisco Indoor off, 1159 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 2: the Mets even gave them Otani as right now the 1160 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 2: second best hitter in baseball. 1161 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: I think they're fucked because they don't have a short setup. Yeah, man, 1162 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: this is so this is complicated. This is that's a 1163 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: really fucked up question you asked me. I don't like 1164 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: that at all. It's gonna eat away at me because 1165 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 1: it's a good one. I think there. I think there's 1166 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: arguments on both sides. I think you can make the 1167 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: argument that the dog like Otani did step up huge 1168 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 1: for them when Mookie Bets was out for a while, 1169 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 1: and Will Smith has not been having as good of 1170 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: a season as he's had in the past max months. 1171 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: He's been hurt. They've had some injuries, but they are 1172 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: still the fucking Los Angeles Dodgers, and that team is 1173 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: literally an all star roster. Yes, they've been They've need 1174 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: more help really realistically on the pitching side than the 1175 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: hitting side. Where the Mets, I mean, the numbers don't lie. 1176 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: He's been the most valuable player. You're right, I don't 1177 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: If you take Fransiscolndorff, this Mets team, there's almost nobody 1178 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: that would make a difference. Oh, it's all the American 1179 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: League guys, Wan So too, Bobby wit Air and those 1180 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: guys would be in better places for sure. But in 1181 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: the National League it's it's an argument. I don't know. 1182 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I take the Mets are much 1183 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: worse with Lindor than or uh with Otani than Lindor. 1184 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: But I think that's the conversation to it of itself 1185 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: is that they're both probably the same value to both 1186 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: of their teams right now. And that's the entire crux 1187 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: of this argument totally. 1188 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: And I think that it's a situation for Lindor that 1189 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: kind of sucks, similar for Bobby Whit where he's having 1190 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 2: this season at the same time another guy's doing something 1191 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 2: that's fucking crazy and you've been done. That's what I'm saying, like, like, 1192 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 2: do you don't like when the numbers had obvious in 1193 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 2: your face? Sixty homers, fifty homers, fifty stolen bases. 1194 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: That's hard. 1195 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: It's just hard for the writers not to do it, 1196 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 2: like like like Jimmy Rowlands like stole the MVP from 1197 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 2: David right when he had the nine win season, But 1198 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 2: that was because it wasn't obvious it was thirty thirty, 1199 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 2: it was three ten, it was one hundred, twenty hundred 1200 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 2: and twenty like and obvious. 1201 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: If they had war then if. 1202 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 2: We had really like it, it compares very favorably. The 1203 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 2: players have won the MVP before, but just happens to 1204 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 2: be happening the same time as something crazy happening. So 1205 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna keep the Lindor MVP vibes going, I want 1206 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 2: to hear those chances all month the city field, but 1207 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: at this point, like it's just it would be it 1208 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: would be crazy if he has he has to do 1209 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 2: so he keeps doing crazy things, but he has to 1210 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 2: do something like actually fucking batshit to do it. 1211 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 1: Franciscodor has to hit eleven home runs in the month 1212 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: of September. Francisco, if he hits forty home runs and 1213 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: he has thirty stolen bases with one hundred RBIs he's 1214 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna win the MVP. Forty home runs gets them there? 1215 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, forty homer Like a month ago we said thirty five. Problem, 1216 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 2: he's for you now, all right, we got a We 1217 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 2: got two more here, Quentin and Joe. 1218 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 10: Hey, Mark and James big time or longtime listener and 1219 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 10: really appreciate what you guys do. My question for you, 1220 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 10: speaking of the whole Lindor MVP conversation, even though it 1221 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,919 Speaker 10: looks like Showy's gonna end up taking it, my question 1222 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 10: for you is, with all the weird Lindor hate around, 1223 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 10: what I mean, he's definitely a Hall of Famer. What 1224 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 10: ballot do you think do you think he ends up 1225 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 10: by the end of his career. He's a first ballot 1226 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 10: Do you think he's a down ballot, second, third year 1227 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 10: kind of guy? 1228 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 7: Just curious, is what you, guys. 1229 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 1: Thoughts are on that if Francisco Lindoor keeps doing everything 1230 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: that he is doing right now, of course he's going 1231 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: too slow down as he gets older. But what's going 1232 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: to be great about Francisco Indoor is that he's going 1233 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: to play gold Glove defense at second base in his 1234 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: twilight years. He'll be the best second basement defensively you've 1235 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: seen since Berberto Alomar. He's going to be a first 1236 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. He's doing stuff that there's almost 1237 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: no shortstops in baseball I've ever done it. You're looking 1238 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: at in terms of value. Obviously, defensively, Jeter not on 1239 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: the same level as him. Cal Ripken will not, I 1240 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: mean close, but not as close. There's just not a 1241 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 1: lot of shortsteps that have been able to do things 1242 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball that he's doing. He 1243 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: will be a clear first ballot Hall of Famer. When 1244 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: you talk about the best shortstops, guys who changed how 1245 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: that position is played, Francisco Indoor's name is going to 1246 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: come up. 1247 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, he already has had a more valuable career than 1248 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 2: as like Jimmy Rollins and Nomar who were like some 1249 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 2: of the better short stops and Galtajada the last era. 1250 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 2: He's blowing them out of the water, and he's doing 1251 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 2: it with consistency. I do think that no matter what, 1252 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 2: because Lindor is not going to be a five hundred 1253 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 2: home run guy. He's probably not gonna be a three 1254 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 2: thousand hits guy. He's not gonna be a three hundred 1255 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 2: career batting average guy. And he's not going to have 1256 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 2: ten goal gloves because he hasn't any only has anything 1257 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 2: two or three right now. So I think he still 1258 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 2: will be a Hall of Famer, but I think he's 1259 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 2: gonna be the guy that grinds four or five years 1260 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 2: on the ballot. Truthfully, unless unless he wins a World 1261 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 2: Series with the Mets, houlta trophy has a huge playoff ronts, 1262 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 2: he's still he needs if he has a moment that 1263 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 2: changes the whole situation, because then he he catapults himself 1264 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 2: past the stats like guys like Derek Jeeter did. 1265 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: Right let me ask you this, what Francisco Londori right 1266 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: now is at two hundred and forty three home runs, Okay, 1267 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: in his career. That's in ten seasons, right, one of 1268 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: them being shortened because of COVID, and one of those 1269 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: seasons being his rookie year ninety nine games. So he's 1270 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: a guy who's averaging about that shot twenty five home 1271 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: runs a year. He could have hit four hundred home runs. 1272 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: If he has four hundred home runs, it's a no 1273 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: doubt first ballot. I think. 1274 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 2: I think four hundreds almost pretty good chance that's four hundred. 1275 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 2: I think five hundreds the one that gets him no 1276 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 2: doubt for his ballot. 1277 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: Mean, five hundred is not happening. There's no shot. 1278 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: Again, I mean there is a shot because right now 1279 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 2: he's doing some of the he's thirty one, he's doing 1280 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 2: the best thing he's ever done in his career. 1281 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: He needs to do four more seasons at thirty five. 1282 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: Maybe all right, we'll keep it in Like, I don't 1283 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 1: think so. Yeah. 1284 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 2: To me, he compares right now very much like Barry 1285 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 2: Larkin and Barry Larkin I think was a first ballot 1286 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm almost positive he was not Barry Larkin. 1287 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 2: Barry Larkin's like I think I hate he was third 1288 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 2: fourth ballot, I'm pretty sure. Really check, Uh, how do 1289 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 2: I memory he's there for third or not? 1290 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: I actually have no I check what year he retired 1291 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: and what year they got in. Hold on, So he 1292 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: retired in two thousand and four and he got in 1293 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. Okay, So I'm saying he grinded a 1294 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: few years in that ballot. Oh way, I could find 1295 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: it now here we go, let's see. You keep talking, 1296 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find it all right. So again, but I 1297 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: think that's where it's at. I think on Leslandor has 1298 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 1: a signature more time. Third time for Larkin, Larkin had 1299 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: only hit one hundred nine g eight home runs. Lndor 1300 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: has already gotten more than that. Okay, but Larkin also. 1301 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 2: Was like like a seventy war player pretty easily, and 1302 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 2: Lindor is a fifty right now. He's got a long 1303 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 2: way to go, but he Larkin was awesome. Larkin was 1304 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 2: fucking great. But the difference was that Larkin never had 1305 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 2: that moment like like there's an LVP he did he 1306 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 2: want to be, Hey do an MVP? 1307 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: Yay? 1308 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 2: So like that's thing. Lodori either has to win like 1309 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 2: an MVP or two as of right now. Lindor has 1310 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 2: only been top five and m VP once, so to 1311 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 2: be first ballot you have to either do that a 1312 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: few times, or you need the signature moment, or he 1313 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 2: has to do the five hundred home runs. So I 1314 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna be a first ballot. I think 1315 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 2: he gets in for sure, like the longest things keep 1316 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: going for the next five six years. 1317 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: You are right, the Hall of Fame balloting is for 1318 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: Cock the two because Mike Piazza was like a fourth 1319 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: ballot guy and he's the best hitting catcher of all time. 1320 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 2: So same, I'm too deep. I'm too deep into the 1321 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 2: stuff that was Quentin. And now that we got the 1322 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 2: last voicemail of the day comes in from Joe. 1323 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: All right, Joe, what's up? 1324 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 11: Guy's been listening to the faithfully for the last three years. 1325 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 11: Always a great listen, really good road trip seven and three, 1326 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 11: even we had those two, those two bad losses, but 1327 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 11: still seven and three is exactly what we need to do. 1328 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 11: Took care of business this weekend in Chicago, even though 1329 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 11: we didn't even play our best ball, still were able 1330 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 11: to get the sweep. And I think at this point 1331 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 11: I can definitively say we are better than the Braves. 1332 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 11: We just have to find a way to beat them. 1333 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 11: We have the better lineup. They probably have the better 1334 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 11: pitching staff, but I think we do overall because of 1335 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 11: our lineup. We're healthier. I think we are the better 1336 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 11: team right now. And this is the year to beat 1337 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 11: them and to pass them and to make them sit 1338 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 11: on the couch in October and I'll sit in there. 1339 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 11: And We've got a find way to get that third spot, 1340 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 11: because I think Arizona and San Diego are probably locked 1341 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 11: in at this point, so it's going to come down 1342 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 11: to that third spot, and we just have to play 1343 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 11: well enough to beat out Atlanta and this last month 1344 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 11: so and if we can get to the playoffs, I 1345 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 11: think we can cause them having. 1346 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 2: I'll say this about the concept of the Padres and 1347 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 2: Diambacks being locked in. I'm sure a lot of listeners 1348 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 2: to show are older than the age of like fourteen, 1349 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 2: so I'm sure most of them remember two thousand and seven, 1350 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 2: like I remember two thousand and seven. Of these fucking 1351 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: leads are safe. We are three games behind them the 1352 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 2: Padres and lost Colum right now, and four behind the Diamondbacks. 1353 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 2: Nothing is safe. The Cubs are only two behind us. 1354 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 2: Like there, there's a month of baseball, it's thirty fucking games. 1355 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 2: A lot of shit can still happen. I I do 1356 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 2: agree that this is I don't like the way. I 1357 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 2: don't like the way who doesn't want to give credit 1358 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 2: to the name. I don't like the way Joe phrase it. 1359 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 2: But he's right, this is the time to beat the Braves. 1360 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 2: But yes I don't. I don't like beating the fucking 1361 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 2: Triple A. The Gwynette Stripper's over there, even though I 1362 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 2: still want to, but just it's more about it, more 1363 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 2: be embarrassing if we can't get past them. 1364 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: Yes, that's how I feel about that kind of Let 1365 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: me tell you, if you could put the Braves pitching, 1366 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: the Mets hitting together this year, who had teams would 1367 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: in a World Series? Is signing close? Got a fucking 1368 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: team right there, You got a major one. But their 1369 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: pittrick has been unbelievable, and they brought back Tyler Matzik today. 1370 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: Did you see that? Yeah? 1371 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 2: And Ronaldo Lopez, I don't know if anyone knows is this, 1372 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 2: but he took a month and a half off and 1373 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 2: he's come back throwing ninety nine miles an hour. 1374 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: With pinpoint command. It's I think they like are like 1375 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: all right, so instead of taking off the end of 1376 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: the year's take off in the middle of the year. 1377 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just voodoo fuck him. I hate them so much, 1378 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 2: But I think any of these scenes can be passed. 1379 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 2: I think also the Cubs getting high and if one 1380 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 2: nine of ten games six in a row, their offense 1381 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 2: has woken up for the first time all fucking season, 1382 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,839 Speaker 2: There's a lot, a lot that can happen. 1383 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: But they again, anything can happen in any direction here, truthfully. Yeah, 1384 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: I will let me tell you if if we are 1385 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: the reason the Braves do not make the playoffs and 1386 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: we get in, I'm gonna be intolerable. I am going 1387 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: to be going crazy. It's it's gonna be a lot 1388 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,439 Speaker 1: of fun. And hopefully we get to see that happen, 1389 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: because we know I will act like an idiot on 1390 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: the internet for much less things. So I'm cool with that. Yeah. So, 1391 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: but I think that's all we got. 1392 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 2: Voicemails, We've got Frankie Peppers the Endn't worry, guys, are 1393 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 2: gona We're gonna have the regular Franki Peppers. He set 1394 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 2: me one in is how we discovered Frankie Pepper, so 1395 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 2: if we might be trying to fire next star over here, 1396 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,399 Speaker 2: but oh that was all we got double checking. Yeah, 1397 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 2: it's all the voicemails we've got, so thank you guys 1398 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 2: ever for this voicemails. Are gonna try and do those 1399 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 2: probably once a month. I don't know, keep you guys involved. 1400 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 2: But now I didn't really find a good media marvel 1401 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 2: this week. We did voicemail the stead. 1402 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 1: Of that, let's talk about the Red Sox. 1403 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 2: Time to preview the Red Sox series. The Red Sox 1404 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 2: aren't bad at all, correct, They're They're fine. They're a 1405 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 2: fine baseball team. That's very weird, is how we describe them. 1406 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: They're kind of the Mets of the American League right now, 1407 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: kind of. 1408 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 2: They've had a bad second half, worst second half than 1409 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 2: the first half. They're falling a little bit of the 1410 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 2: wildcard race because the AL wildcard race is a little 1411 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 2: it's a little more obvious because it's justin whoever's gonna 1412 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 2: lose the Ale least and whoever's gonna lose the AL 1413 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 2: Central or firmly head of the Red Sox, the Mariners 1414 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 2: and weirdly the Tigers have put themselves in this mix 1415 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 2: somehow shout out them. 1416 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: But Red Sox are a weird team. So pitching matchups. 1417 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: The series three seven to seven o'clock games seven o'clock 1418 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 2: on Labor Day bizarre. I don't remember that ever ever happening. 1419 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 2: And then Tuesday night Wednesday night have all seven to 1420 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 2: ten at City Field. Hope to see you guys there 1421 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 2: for some of those Luisa Riuno versus Brian Bao and 1422 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 2: then Tuesday asof David Pearson versus Color Crawford, and then Wednesday. 1423 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 2: I think this is subject to change because it'll put 1424 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 2: McGill on regular rest but then put him ahead of Kintana. 1425 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 2: But as of right now, either McGill or Qatana versus 1426 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 2: Tanner Hawk. 1427 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: Okay, those are matchups. I mean, listen, before we talk 1428 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: talk about the pitching side. The big thing with the 1429 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: Red Sox I feel like is their offense, because obviously 1430 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 1: able to hit really well. Rafael Devers maybe one of 1431 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: the most underrated hitters in all of baseball. The guy 1432 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 1: just every single year thirty home runs, thirty doubles, one 1433 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: hundred RBIs, sopis is nine to twenty three. This guy 1434 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: gets no love, no love from national media, no love 1435 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: from anybody. It feels like outside of Red Sox world, 1436 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: really really fucking good hitter at the plate. And then 1437 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: Jaron Durant gotta talk about him too. Not about him 1438 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: being a little homophobic. That was bad, not good, don't 1439 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: use that word. But as a baseball player, so damn good, 1440 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's so fucking good. Twenty one homers, 1441 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: forty four doubles, thirteen triples, sixty nine RBI is nice, 1442 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: thirty two stolen bases, an eight eighty five ops. He's 1443 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: having a phenomenal year. He actually has more war than 1444 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor the guy if he was in a different 1445 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: League's winning the MVP. 1446 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 2: No, he's kind of come out of nowhere to do 1447 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 2: this too. Not nowhere, but he's he's having the best. Yeah, 1448 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 2: Mark Mark was big on Jaron Durant once he made 1449 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 2: that swing change. He got me hip to him two. 1450 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 2: Same with the Rats and Barrels podcast, you know, and 1451 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 2: DVRs shot him out a lot. But twenty seven years old, 1452 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 2: in his prime. He's playing elite defense center field too, 1453 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 2: which is something that was always a big question for him. 1454 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: But he's find a way to do that. 1455 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 2: I think He's played a lot of corner as well, 1456 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 2: but overall the seven metrics are amazing. He is him 1457 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 2: and Devers are carrying that team right now to HEIGHTSID. 1458 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people and they saw 1459 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,439 Speaker 2: the rospbergaining in the year, thought they could have ever reached. 1460 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 2: And including William Abreu who's in the Rookie of the 1461 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 2: Year race in the AL, he's a great ball player. 1462 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 2: Tristan Cossa is back from one of the strangest injuries 1463 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 2: that we've ever seen in baseball. So something that I 1464 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 2: think is interesting, not just someone's got sad. As we 1465 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 2: get more and more data and more and more information, 1466 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 2: more and more science, these players keep getting bigger, stronger, faster, 1467 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: just more force inside their bodies. Cossas broke a rib 1468 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 2: just on a swing, and the doctor, the trainer whoever's 1469 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 2: interviewed after, said that the swing created the same torque 1470 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 2: and force inside his body as a car crash to 1471 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 2: break his rib. That's how hard he swung, that's how 1472 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 2: much he twisted in his trunk there. So that's a 1473 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 2: weird thing, especially now that we're tracking things like swing speed. 1474 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 2: I know the teams are a lot more than now 1475 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 2: we've gotten that stuff on baseball savant, but just other 1476 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: things to keep an eye on, how we as as 1477 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 2: the modern age of athletic pushes the human body to 1478 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 2: literally the furthest heights has ever been pushed. But he's 1479 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 2: a good player, Rob Refsnider's just hitting in the middle 1480 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 2: that line, and a most Takyoshida is blazing hot in 1481 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 2: the second half. But he will never play the fields, 1482 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 2: so that's something keeping on instead of a most tak Yoshida. 1483 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 2: Connor Wang has been playing the outfield for them, which 1484 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 2: is fucking insane that he'll play the outfield over over 1485 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 2: Masataka Yoshida. But rummig and Zalez thinks so great they 1486 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 2: just cut Dom Smiths. Would be nice for Dom to 1487 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 2: come to City Field. But interesting Red Sox team for sure. Yeah, 1488 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 2: this team is going to run as well. Jared Durant 1489 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 2: steals a bunch of basses, so don Rafaela steals a 1490 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 2: bunch of basses. I think David Hamilton, I think it's 1491 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 2: hurt right now. Okay, he stole a ton. 1492 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: They run. They're a very aggressive team. They try to 1493 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 1: steal runs off of you. They try to make him 1494 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: make plays. And this dude Mickey Gasper. I know he 1495 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have a hit. He's up on the team right now. 1496 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: Check the stash on Mickey Gasper. It's a solid mustache. 1497 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 2: And also that's an all time baseball named Mickey Gasper. 1498 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 2: But issued this Red Sox team by far and away, 1499 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 2: bullpen fucking socks. It is horrible. They've blown I think, 1500 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 2: the most saft in baseball besides like the really bad 1501 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 2: teams White Sox and stuff. 1502 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Which is funny because their eras are not crazy bad 1503 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: at all. The Mets definitely have worst cras as a 1504 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: full team. 1505 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 2: I mean, because the Red Sox will have a guy 1506 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 2: that got get blown up and get him out of there. 1507 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, because the active guys. The RA is not 1508 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 1: gonna look that. 1509 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 2: But also Kenley Jans is having another amazing season and 1510 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 2: his path to the Hall of Fame as a closer. 1511 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah like, because I'm looking at it right now. And 1512 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 1: the worst ones. Josh win Kowski technically former Met Josh 1513 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: win Kowski never forget traded for Steven Mets. I think 1514 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: he came with the Steven Matt trade. I don't know, 1515 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: and then we know that was that was yeah, maybe three. 1516 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: It was one of those trades. That offseason Justin Slayton 1517 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: technically former met former mechnically former Met. That was a 1518 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 1: fuck up. Yeah, that was that was a mess up 1519 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: because he is absolutely nasty. But like Chris Martin, Brennen, Bernadino, 1520 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,439 Speaker 1: Greg Weisert, who you still like Greg Weisert, He's still 1521 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,919 Speaker 1: He's weird, but I don't love him, Okay, Zach Kelly, 1522 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: and you mentioned ken Lee Jansen. It's a it's a 1523 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: bizarre bullpen. Oh you missed one. Guy Rich Hill, Dick Mountain. 1524 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Dick Mountain's back forty four years old. He is significantly 1525 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: older than his pitching coach. We gotta get We have. 1526 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 2: To get Richill of Tribute series on the board. Hopefully 1527 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 2: people look back and do that, because people listen to 1528 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 2: this show sometimes and do things after it. So maybe 1529 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 2: they're going to listen and then be like, yeah, let's 1530 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,479 Speaker 2: get Rich Hill on the scoreboard if any scoreboard people 1531 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 2: are listening. But Richel's hilarious. He is what seven years 1532 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 2: older than Andrew Bailey as his pitching coach. But I'll 1533 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 2: talk about Red Sox pitching for a little bit. 1534 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Bailey's come to that team. 1535 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 2: He's doing something that I think is really cool, but 1536 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 2: also something that is now kind of flipping back on 1537 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 2: them and not working as well. Where He's told the 1538 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 2: big guys in the staff who are paveda color Crawford, 1539 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 2: Brian Bao and Tanner Hawk, three of those guys, we 1540 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 2: will see this series basically, fuck your fastball. We're gonna 1541 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 2: pitch backwards. Like BeO, his best pitches are as slyer 1542 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 2: than his change up. Throw those more. Cother Crawfords his 1543 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 2: color and his curveball, throw those more. Tanner Hawk, it's 1544 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 2: a sweep er throw that more so against the batters 1545 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 2: where those pitches make the most sense. They're leading on 1546 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 2: those pitches instead of throwing fastballs, and early in the 1547 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 2: year that helped the Red Sox starting rotation to be 1548 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 2: one of the most effective in all baseball. Over the 1549 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 2: last month and a half six weeks, as teams have 1550 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 2: been studying this morn and preparing more, teams have now 1551 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 2: been sitting on those secondary pitches. Tanner Hawk and Crawford 1552 01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 2: are two guys who have gotten hit much harder than 1553 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 2: having for us to have recently had a really good start, 1554 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 2: and Craff's ride the ship a little bit of late, 1555 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 2: but it's interesting that Ying and Yang that the Red 1556 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 2: Sox are playing with the league and had league's playing 1557 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 2: back with them, and how it's it's a it's a 1558 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 2: cool phase of like league. 1559 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Wide pitching development. I like, I've liked watching unfold this season. 1560 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, the Red Socks always ray of the fastballs 1561 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 2: in the league for starting rotation. 1562 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 1: The Boston Red Sox, this is a this is a 1563 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 1: very gettable team, uh for sure. This week at city 1564 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: Field Tanner Hawks, they're a big guy who's having their 1565 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: best year in terms of pitching three one two era. 1566 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna be in the s conversation. Not as strong 1567 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: as he was a couple of weeks ago, but definitely 1568 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: up there in the American League. Just guys are gonna 1569 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 1: get votes, kind of like a Sean and Ia type thing. 1570 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Good team, gotta beat them, gotta beat them. These games 1571 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: are so important. I'm we're at the point where we're 1572 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: gonna start to look at who the other teams are 1573 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 1: also playing in their next series. Two and just briefly 1574 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: mentioned that the Padres got the Tigers, the Diamondbacks have 1575 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 1: who do they have after this? And we know that 1576 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 1: their schedule gets tough, And then I'll look up the Braves. 1577 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks are going to San Francisco for three games, 1578 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: and they're going to Houston. Okay, so those are six, 1579 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: six tough games right there where. It's not the White Sox, 1580 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: the Braves. Fuckers. They get the Rockies, those bastards at home. 1581 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do bad, but then also the dim Backs, 1582 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 2: then home versus the Rangers, and then six with the Brewers, 1583 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 2: three in Denver to face the Rockies, and then four 1584 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. So they have seven games against the Brewers. 1585 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 2: So still on the schedule. We're a good team playing 1586 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 2: really good baseball. 1587 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Interesting is coming down to the Braves. Braves go, Rockies, 1588 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Blue Jays, then one game against the Reds, two against 1589 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 1: the Nationals, then back home against the Dodgers. What a 1590 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: weird schedule they have too. They end the end the 1591 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 1: year with the Royals. Oh my god, I'm gonna be 1592 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: rooting for the Royals so hard. You and everything on 1593 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: the line. So that's like literally the Mets and the 1594 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Royal season. Are you kidding me? I'm gonna have money 1595 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 1: on the line for that. Oh those are your two teams. 1596 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 2: But I don't know, guys, just stay on top of it. 1597 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 2: We're staying hot. Just win our games, keep score board watching. 1598 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Hopefully things work out. 1599 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Maybe the Cup stop scoring ten runs a night. I'd 1600 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: like that, truthfully. Yeah. But also chat of football. We 1601 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: had football Saturday. It was nice. It was nice watching 1602 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 1: football day on Saturday. And on the podcast, our teams 1603 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 1: didn't lose. 1604 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah shah, that was old Domini and Akron don't Yeah, 1605 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 2: don't worry about what the South Carolina football game looked like. 1606 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: Just know they won. Shout out Lenora sellers. 1607 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 2: All right, but I think that's all we got. All 1608 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 2: you got, That's all we got, guys. 1609 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Make sure you follow us on our social media at 1610 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: met stuff on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Subscribe to the 1611 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 1: Mets up podcast YouTube channel so you can see the 1612 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 1: video version of this. And if you like what you're 1613 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: listening to, Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google, drops a rating, drops 1614 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: a review, downloaded, and subscribe. Follow James on Twitter at 1615 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: James underscore Giano. I'm Draftnick Mark with a c end. 1616 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Where's Frankie Peppers? We gotta give them Frankie Peppers. That Frankie. 1617 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: You forgot about Frankie. Sorry Frankie. Everyone hanging out for Frankie. 1618 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 1: No one's leaving until they hear Frankie Peppers. My Instagram 1619 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 1: is loud as hell. Frank loud. He got here directly 1620 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 1: after the game four thirdy the nine. He left this right. 1621 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: He's awesome, gentlemen, Frankie Pepper's how you doing? 1622 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 12: Can't say too much about this series. They did what 1623 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 12: they needed to do, swept the White Sox and then 1624 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 12: out nine above five hundred beautiful stuff. An I have 1625 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 12: pitch and seven gorgeous stings of baseball. Pete hitting thirty 1626 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 12: big balls on the year. Francis Goolden Door continuing to 1627 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 12: be the MVP. I think what's the word the goat? 1628 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 12: He is him goat and the MVP all at once. 1629 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 12: I don't know how you can be that many things, 1630 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 12: but you know what he is all of those and more. 1631 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 12: By the way, I didn't forget about the dinners. You 1632 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 12: asked me to make bonnish and sol sage and peppish. 1633 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 12: I'm then I'm open Syracuse, New York for the weekend. 1634 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 12: A family up here, so you know, I really can't 1635 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 12: make dinner when I'm not at my house, but I 1636 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 12: will do those this week. We'll have some nice dinner together, 1637 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 12: don't you worry, all right, boys, I we'll talk to 1638 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 12: you soon. Let's go Matt so keep on winning. 1639 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: Baby, Frankie Pepper sending us home. Nothing better. Let's go Mets, LFGF. 1640 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening and watching, and we'll catch 1641 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 1: you after the Red Sox ears. Peace out, peace out, 1642 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 1: see you guys. 1643 01:05:54,120 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 13: Let's send fucking go Mets. 1644 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 7: Then