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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to to two. In a few minutes,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Laney Wilson, one of my favorite new artists.

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Speaker 1: Really interesting story about how she moves down and I

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Speaker 1: a minute. I do want to talk because this was

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Speaker 1: a big story of music with the Rock and Roll

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Class of so which by the way,

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Speaker 1: part of the show. So you don't have to be

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Speaker 1: rock and roll to be in the Rock and Roll

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. They should at this point. It's called

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Speaker 1: the Music Hall of Fame or the American Music Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame or the North American Music Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: It is the biggest hall of fame in music. And

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Speaker 1: like I think Ello cole ja'son, there are rappers in it.

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Speaker 1: There are people that aren't rock, so it's a bit

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Speaker 1: confusing whenever it's not a rock not a rock person. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: they did announce their class of the Dave matthews Man

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Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame. Yeah, I think they will

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Speaker 1: be though eventually, which I felt was a disaster. I know,

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Speaker 1: Fame eventually, maybe next year, because they get everybody's pissed

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Speaker 1: and everybody the fan vote. It's always a bunch of

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Speaker 1: but they and so there are a thousand industry professionals

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Speaker 1: one vote. Oh that's makes sense, it should count as

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Speaker 1: like votes. But they didn't win. Um, so here we go. Oh,

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Speaker 1: here are the people in this year. It's the Doobie Brothers,

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Speaker 1: Dave Matthew should be over them, older older band nine

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Speaker 1: time t Rex, which was interesting. Do you know more

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Speaker 1: than this song? I don't know. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know either. I bet this is are you going

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Speaker 1: to like an app? Because that's what I always doing,

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Speaker 1: Like what are the top Yeah, that's exactly what I

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Speaker 1: was gonna do because I don't Cosmic Dancer, I don't

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Speaker 1: know hold on to the second I was never heard it,

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Speaker 1: so so it's interesting that, like, you know, they know

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Speaker 1: where they went to their super popular Maybe maybe in

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Speaker 1: their time they were like just killing it. I missed

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Speaker 1: the t Rex vote. No toys, b I g got

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Speaker 1: Any's rapper, so don't be rock and All. Pat Benatar

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Speaker 1: also didn't make it, and she was number two in

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Speaker 1: the fan vote. She didn't so Dave and Pat ben

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Speaker 1: Hardy to make it. Artists become eligible twenty five years

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Speaker 1: after the release of their first record. So here are

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Speaker 1: the people that have been snubbed. The biggest snubs. Tina Turner.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe she's not in Yeah crazy, that's that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: She's been snup for twenty two years. You should definitely

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Speaker 1: be in it right now. Here's one they say, Outcast.

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Speaker 1: They've been snub for two years. They'll get there. What's

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Speaker 1: this list from, Mike? I'd like to credit whomever I'm

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Speaker 1: the list. Sound Garden they've been snub nine years. They'll

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Speaker 1: The Smith's listen big part of music. Dude. Never never

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Speaker 1: been a Smith's guy, me either, Me either. I don't

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Speaker 1: Morrissey with Mexican culture, he's huge. You're absolutely right, I

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Speaker 1: And that's how they started their showing, Like Wow, this

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Speaker 1: doing a reunion? I believe you said? Yeah, smashing Pumpkins

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Speaker 1: the grand O Aubry. How did you find out? Early?

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Speaker 1: of his first co rites in town. So I remind

425
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: him of that all the time. And how many times

426
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: do you think you guys wrote over the years, um,

427
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: ten or twelve? And as you guys are writing, we

428
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: are writing for yourselves each other, like a lot of

429
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: a lot of it was writing for him. He cut

430
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: a song of mine called Sheriff you want to and um, yeah.

431
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: At that point, his artistry was you know, he was

432
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: starting to do really well and people were starting to

433
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: find out who Luke Colms was. And me, I was

434
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: just trying to get my foot in the door. You know.

435
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: I was like, well, maybe the way for me to

436
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: get my foot in the door is through my writing.

437
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: So and that's kind of really you know what helped.

438
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: I got put in that GPS program and ask up

439
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: where basically they choose like ten writers and they put

440
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: you in you know, rooms with publishers and stuff. And

441
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it happened for me. So it

442
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: did start off with the whole writing thing is for you.

443
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 1: It was a publishing deal. How many years being here

444
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: until you got a publishing deal? Seven and a half.

445
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 1: I have not had my publishing deal long at all.

446
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: So you're writing all this time, and that would mean

447
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: in the last year and a half you get your

448
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: publishing deal. So okay, then how did that finally come

449
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: about seven and a half years later? Seven and a

450
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 1: half years later. Yeah, So let's back up a little bit.

451
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: So while I was writing for the first five years,

452
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: I was here like, oh, I guess about like year four,

453
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: I started going on the road with a guy named

454
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: Frank Foster, who is UM. He's from Louisiana too, and

455
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: he kind of has like that old Field fan base,

456
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: so like Louisianna, Mississippi, Arkansas, Texas, like just some hardcore

457
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: fans down there. And him and his wife took me

458
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: under their wing. I've had There's been a lot of

459
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: good people who have just done stuff out of goodness

460
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: of their heart for me, and I don't really know why,

461
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: but Um took me on the road, and I went

462
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: on the road with him for a couple of years

463
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: and just kind of learned the ropes of you know,

464
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: what the road was like. And I just still felt

465
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: like though I didn't have I didn't have a team

466
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: of people around me. In Nashville, I knew a lot

467
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: of people. I have a lot of like songwriter friends,

468
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: and like Luke, you know, he's killing it and everything,

469
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: and but I still didn't feel like I had my

470
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: foot in the door. So I was like, all right,

471
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: time to switch gears. So there's been a lot of

472
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: you know, gear shifting, and finally got put in that

473
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: GPS program and met with several publishers, probably about five

474
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: and then finally, um Sony a TV came to the

475
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: table and offered me a publishing deal. And I was like,

476
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: you can get paid to write a song? What in

477
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: the world? And how crazy is that? After seven and

478
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: a half years, are getting paid to write It's nuts?

479
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Because I love it so much. I mean literally, when

480
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: I moved to Nashville, I did not know what a

481
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: publishing deal was. I did not know that you could

482
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: get paid have a salary to write music. I mean,

483
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: I would do it for free for the rest of

484
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: my don't tell Sony a TV that, but I would

485
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: do it for free for the rest of my life

486
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: because that's how much I love it. I mean, I

487
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: have to do it Were you just grinding on the

488
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: road all those years? Is that how you're making your

489
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: money to pay brandom mortgage your bills? It was just

490
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: all ye, and high school taught guitar lessons and I

491
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: impersonated Hannah Montana. Well let's go. Both of these are

492
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: something we got to dive into. So first of all,

493
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: let's start with the easy. When you taught guitar lessons,

494
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: are you a profession guitar player? I mean, like I

495
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: know enough to get by. I mean they weren't playing

496
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: me the big bucks. Um, I know enough to like

497
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: teach somebody the basics. Yeah, and you're making money doing that? Yeah,

498
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean I was. Yeah, you're grabbing a electric can

499
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: play any of year leads on one string, okay with

500
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: the hand of Montana thinks crazy comm Yes, so you were.

501
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: And you do look a little bit like Hannah Montana

502
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: in Best of Both Worlds. Yeah, yeah, she does. Like

503
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: uh huh. So you were performing in high school as

504
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: a Handah Montana impersonator. And did you do the thing

505
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: where you had Laney open up for hand in Montana? Yes?

506
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Oh you did. I did. It's funny, he really did.

507
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: I was like, we're not leaving here without them knowing

508
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: my name too, Bobby, come on, so you would open yes,

509
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: and then you would put on Hannah Montana as costume. Okay.

510
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: So I had a little portable sound system and a

511
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: little piece of junk karaoke machine style thing, and I

512
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: had the wig, I had the outfits. I would go

513
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: to a lot of these birthdays. It was like birthday parties, fairs, festivals.

514
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: The last one I did was at St. Jude and

515
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: a lot of the time they didn't want Laney Wilson

516
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: there if they just wanted Hannah Montana to come to

517
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: the party or whatever. So but I wouldn't be sure

518
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: to ask him. I'd be like, ken, can Laney make

519
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: an appearance too? So yeah, I would I get up

520
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: there and sing a few songs, play my guitar and

521
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: uh and I'd be like end up next and you

522
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: would know the songs. Oh yeah, did you ever do

523
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: the climbing that you know? And it's a funny story. Um,

524
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: this is probably one of my most like defining moments

525
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: of like you gotta do this, you gotta move to Nashville.

526
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: I was at St. Jude and this little girl had

527
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: had brain surgery like two days prior to the Hanna

528
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: Montana concert. And they had told me before. They were like,

529
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: you know, you can't touch the kids unless they come

530
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: up to you, and you know, then you can touch them,

531
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, if they make the first move first. And UM, yeah,

532
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: I get it, trust me, don't make the first move.

533
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: But anyway, I was just about to sing the climb

534
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: and her dad he wheeled her up to the front

535
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: and she was singing every word to the climb and

536
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm handam Montana's crime. My wig is on sideways.

537
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm like everybody in the in the whole entire building

538
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: is just squalling. And anyway, I turned around and then

539
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: she's like, looks at me again, and I handed the

540
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: microphone and she sings the entire song like by herself,

541
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: just kills it. Everybody's crying, and she hands me the

542
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: microphone back and she meant to say, Hannah Montana, um,

543
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: your mus star, but she said, Hannah Montana, I'm your star.

544
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what you are and

545
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: I have got to do this the rest of my life.

546
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: And how long did you do handa Montana impersonating five years? Wow?

547
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: Is that is that your best paying gig. Absolutely, I

548
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: made way more money then then I'll do now, I'm

549
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: will tell you right now. I think there's often a

550
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: misconception too with how much artists make until they're really

551
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: making it, we ain't make. It's almost like, uh, you know,

552
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: lower class and then there's no middle class, very rarely class.

553
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: It's low and then boom and not just music but

554
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: anything creative. Even in my industry, I was broke, broke, broke, broke,

555
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: not broke anymore, and it it went because as soon

556
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: as someone sees value in you, they started investing in

557
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: you because they know that if they invest in you're

558
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: gonna make them way more money. And it's always within

559
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: the amount of money that you make. It's how much

560
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: money are you making the person paying you? And that's

561
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: why artists who it may not seem like they're doing

562
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: a lot of actual work. Especially where I come from,

563
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: it's it was a saw mill town. That's real work,

564
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 1: that was like hard labor work. But it's how much

565
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: money can someone make off of you? Like, what is

566
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: your skill that we can I'll use the word exploit,

567
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: what's the skill that we can exploit and we can

568
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: make money? And then you make no no, no, no,

569
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: no money. That someone goes, oh, you're actually really valuable

570
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna pay you. It's crazy. It's like

571
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: a whole crazy world that we live in. So we

572
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: met with Blancos the get up video he was He

573
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: had posted the video and I reached out to you

574
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: because I didn't know who you were. I just saw

575
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: you dancing with them and I looked at I was like, oh,

576
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: she's an artist, she lives here in town. And so

577
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: I hit you up and I was like, hey, we

578
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: come teach me to do this dance. And you were

579
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: so nice enough to go. I mean, I can, but

580
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: don't know. I call Blanco and just have him and

581
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, she's she's like foregoing any

582
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: sort of shot to be in a video, to actually

583
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: do the noble thing, to get the real guy. So

584
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: you'r how I knew Blanco, and then you came over.

585
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: You came over anyway, which I thought was great, and

586
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: you you worked with Kaylee Hammick and Blanco worked with me.

587
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: And I remember telling you because I didn't I never

588
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: heard your music, and I was like, if you're any good,

589
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to make this up to you. But only

590
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: if you're any good. I'm not gonna I'm I appreciate

591
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: your honestly, yeah, and I'm not gonna do it if

592
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: you if I don't love it, and I'm you know.

593
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: And I didn't even get your music from you. I

594
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: got your music from one of my guys because we

595
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: have the same management. Are you were you read and

596
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: you I think you were deciding at that point who

597
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: your management was, and so um I was like, hey,

598
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: so I heard your whole record and I was like,

599
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: oh you did. And I was like and I chased

600
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: it down and I rarely listen to people's music, but

601
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: I was just so grateful that you were so giving

602
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: of your time. And then you didn't even want anything.

603
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: You were like, no, not to be in the video,

604
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: and I was glad to be here. You're like nothing,

605
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't need anything. And I was like, wow, if

606
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: she's any good, like I like who she is. And

607
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: then you were like you definitely have a style about you. Um.

608
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: I started following on Instage. I don't even follow many

609
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: people on Instagram. Follow you on Instagram. Your music is great. Um.

610
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: When we get to pick the show this year at

611
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: the Rheman, I pick like you know, like two new

612
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: artists every year that I really think there are big

613
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: things happening. For By the way, Luke Holmbs was that

614
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: guy two years ago, you know. I mean it's it's

615
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: been a really cool thing to be able to to

616
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: do those shows, and so it was you. And I've

617
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: just been real, real happy to see your sport, how

618
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: how fresh your voices, how different it is while still

619
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: being who you really are. It's so hard to be

620
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: authentic and be different and keep at it when people

621
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: are going like I don't know, But the people that

622
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: hit the hardest are the people that you would go

623
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, because if you don't people are like

624
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, then it means you're like everybody else.

625
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: And honestly, I can't beat anything but myself. If anybody

626
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: was trying to change me, it just wouldn't work. You know.

627
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: What I also find really cool about you is I

628
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: don't know your friend. Who's your best friend? I only

629
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: know it from your Instagram, But you guys are together

630
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: and best I can tell you guys are like like

631
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: best friends best friends and yeah, and I like I

632
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: I can appreciate that, Like that's real stuff. Um, you're

633
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: a picture hard time well and I don't again. She's

634
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: an artist too. Yes, she's a good she's awesome. She

635
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: is I'm telling you right now all like I don't know,

636
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm not friends with sucky people. Here's your from the

637
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: picture of the Ryman last night You're caption five year

638
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: old Laney, who was terrified to seeing butterfly kisses out

639
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: her kindergarten graduation, would really be freaking out tonight. Sound

640
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: check at the Ryeman was just magical. I thought it

641
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: would be soaking it up tonight. I mean every word

642
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: pretty cool, hum every word. I play a little bit

643
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: of your music. I think some of our our folks

644
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: would like to hear your music. They haven't yet. Mike,

645
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: Let's do Let's do Dirty Looks, which is the current single,

646
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: getting Dirty Shop getting Dirty, don't know, Getting Dirty Looks

647
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: like get Everybody's get Some of them tells but they

648
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: ain't nothing. The German's Baby, somebody a hard man. I

649
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: just want to get all over you, like the Dirty Show,

650
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: Jeans and bos. If you ask me dirty good, you

651
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: get you good. And here's a song that I've put

652
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: into our my heart country show that women are by

653
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: her country. And this is l A. Except it's not

654
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, it's the other And yeah, here you go.

655
00:32:51,600 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: You say, started you ever did the cover band thing

656
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: I did? How'd that go it went? Did you ever

657
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: play covers in Nashville on like Broadway? Did you ever

658
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: have that life? No? Uh? Like I said earlier, like

659
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I would just travel back to like Louisianna, Mississippi. You

660
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to not drive all that way. You don't

661
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: want to find a bar gig. I was making such

662
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: good money in Louisiana, Like I literally could do this

663
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: acoustic show at this place called Pickle Barrel. I could

664
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: do a four hour set and the guy would give

665
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: me everything at the door, and he was charging like

666
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: five or ten dollars a person. And I mean I

667
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: could go and I can make dollars, and then I'd

668
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: have to be down on Broadway killing my voice for

669
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, to make fifty So what about the drive?

670
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: How long was that drive? Eight hours? Would you drive

671
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: it all yourself? Yep? What did you mean when you

672
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: said you wanted to be the female Jason Aldan man?

673
00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: Just unapologetically badass, just like get up there and just

674
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: do your thing, you know, like I've always looked up

675
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: to him. I just think he uh. I can't believe

676
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm on the same roster as him either with label,

677
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: but I just think he's He just puts on a

678
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: great show. He's high energy, and I love that and

679
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: I can tell that he loves it and he enjoys it.

680
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: And I want to kind of do the same thing,

681
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: you know. I want people to know, like, I love

682
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: what I do and we'll put everything I got into it.

683
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: And I think he does that. Who'd you listen to

684
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: growing up? Dolly Parton, LeAnn Wimant Everything, Ninety's Country. Um.

685
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: Tim McGraw is actually from about five miles up the

686
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: road from where I'm from. So was everybody super proud

687
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: of timgrawl? Yeah, he's like you know, I was like, oh,

688
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: if Tim can do it, maybe I can do it.

689
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: And hopefully, you know, there's a little girl or a

690
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: boy who maybe will feel the same way about me.

691
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: Because that it gave me hope. I'm like, golly, he's

692
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: from Start Louisiana. You know, I'm from Basking, Like, I

693
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: can do this thing too. So I got to meet

694
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: him yet, but oh you haven't nice A lot of muscles,

695
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: um smaller now than you think, because he's so ripped.

696
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: When I met him, you wouldn't meet Tim and go,

697
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: oh a small guy, but now you meet him, you

698
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: go always Really this works out four hours a day.

699
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: He last night was the National Championship game. Recording this

700
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: the day after he played New Orleans, which had to

701
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: be great for him because one he's playing New Orleans

702
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: to L s U was in the game, and then

703
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: L s U won the National Championship. It was like

704
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: Tim McCawl. The greatest night last night was um, your

705
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: your mount Rushmore of country artists? Now you will do

706
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: five of them? We always do four plus one. I

707
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: know you mentioned who you like, but if you had

708
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: to put amount Rushmore, we'll just do a favorite artist period.

709
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: So so mine I would put John Mayer in mind,

710
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: also with with Garth Brooks, and who would you put

711
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: in your mount Rushmore favorite artists? Dolly's gotta be up

712
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: there for sure, this one. And you don't only give

713
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: my reasons why. I also have not met Dolly Parton,

714
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: but I had this song called, um, what would Dolly Do?

715
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: And I think Dolly Parton is just when I think

716
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: of just all around, just incredible everything from her look

717
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: to her music, to her song right, and how she's

718
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: an incredible businesswoman, like Dolly's just got it to how

719
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: she tells it, how he is with a little bow

720
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: wrapped on top, like that's why I love her. So

721
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: there's one. Here's the thing about Dolly. And I know

722
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: you think that you see her in TV interviews and

723
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: readiovews and she's great. But she's even better than that.

724
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: I know she is. I also was, and I've got

725
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: dispense of time with Dolly a bunch of times, actually

726
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: enough now to where it's not at one hit and

727
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: you go, oh, I wonder if she's really that nice.

728
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: She really isn't nice. She it's not a it's not

729
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: a nice thing. It's a it's a pure genuine thing

730
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: where she's sometimes she's not acting a nice or not

731
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: nice way, she's just being herself. But it is a

732
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: magnet in the room. There are only about four people

733
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: I've met that have the magnet where it's just like

734
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: she walks in the room and it's just she sucks

735
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: up the room and everyone is just in awe. And

736
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: not because she's Dolly pardon, but because she's just demanding

737
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: your presence with her attitude and actions. Funny. I have

738
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: not heard one bad thing about everything here. Here's the

739
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: people that are like that. Dolly, Reba, same thing. Reba

740
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: is a little, i would say, a little less warm,

741
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: but also way funnier. It's just a different kind that

742
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: you like her would probably be another one of mine.

743
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: Reba's awesome, all right, So Doli and Reba. Garth is

744
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: on and not on the Mount Rush. But Garth is

745
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: another one of those guys. And Garth is so loving

746
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: and he's my neighbor. It's like a ted Garth's like

747
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: a teddy bear. You live next to Garth? Now? Where

748
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: are you living now? Mike? How quiet? How fast it

749
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: to change? You got a mansion now? Or what? You know?

750
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: What's it? Off? My hand? One time of money and

751
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: the other one is um is for a whole different

752
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: way because he comes in a room with so much

753
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: personality and I see it now a lot because we

754
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: work together. Is Luke Brian. He's just like it's all

755
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: lout and he's also a really good guy. But those

756
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: are the four um Okay, So you have Dolly on

757
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: your Mount rushmore you have so um Also. I think

758
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: she's just an all around like I think she's a

759
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: hard worker. I think, Um, I'm not gonna say like

760
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: she's never satisfied, because like I'm sure she's she's you know,

761
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: proud of herself and satisfied. But I think she just

762
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: kind of got the mentality of like, all right, what's next.

763
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: And I love that. I hope I'm the same way.

764
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: Like I just I think that's how she's been. Um,

765
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: and I mean grew up listening to all her stuff

766
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: and looking up to her too. That golly, that's too

767
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: so so far we got we have three to go

768
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: because we do a mount rushmore plus one, but the

769
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: plus one is not an addition. We just do five. Okay,

770
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: So you have Dolly, do you have Reba? Okay, go ahead,

771
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: and you put a band up there. Whatever you want? Um,

772
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: she maybe Vince Gale um lovely guy met Vince briefly

773
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: lovely guy. See, I love hearing those kind of stories.

774
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: I hate when I hear I want stuff about people

775
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: that I love and I would say nothing. I'll just

776
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: be like, okay, cool if I don't build people up,

777
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: okay with false foundation love. Vince is just that's he

778
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: talks so soft, he's so kind. Whatever you need, he'll

779
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: come by, lovely guy. This might be a different one,

780
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: but um my daddy played guitar and he would sit

781
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: in the living room and he'd play a lot of

782
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: buck Owens, and so buck Owens would probably be up

783
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: there for me. What what was the buck I wants

784
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: connection with your dad, California guy at all? He's not, no,

785
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: he just knew a few little buck Owens, little licks

786
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: on the guitar, and he'd play them over and over again.

787
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: And so that's probably my third one. The buck Owens

788
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: I can't count. The buck Owens thing too is interesting

789
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: because I just watch Heahaw a lot and there was

790
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: a lot of like older buck Owens and so that

791
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: for me because my grandma I would watch he on

792
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: the Grand Old Operation. That's why it's so important to me.

793
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: And that's why that I love playing the operation so much,

794
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: is that it was made important. Like you said, your

795
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: dad would play buck Owens my my grandma we watched

796
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: he Hall all the time, and we watched the watch

797
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: listen to the operation depending on when it was on

798
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: TNA or wherever it was. And buck buck Owens was

799
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: familiar to me because of Hee Haw And then I

800
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: kind of learned his music after that, Buck, Vince Gill,

801
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: Reba Dolly, anyone out of country music. I love me

802
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: some liz I. Okay going really what about Lizzodi? Like

803
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: she is herself, like completely herself. I mean she's a

804
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: little crazy, but I love her. Um, yeah, I think

805
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: she is sassy. I love sassy. Lizz I was killing it.

806
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: You put out this this EP that it was just

807
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: called Lanny Wilson right last year. Okay, see you when

808
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: you put that out? Would you make any money off that? Heck? No,

809
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: not much enough to where your Did you ever get

810
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: any check for it at all? Like probably a couple

811
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: hundred dollars? I mean not not a whole lot. Um.

812
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: The most money I've made off of that is one

813
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: of the songs um working overtime actually got put into Yellowstone,

814
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: the show Yellowstone on Paramount. So yeah, it was the

815
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: second season, first episode. And so what do they pay

816
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: you for that? Oh my god? I sing the song

817
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: in a show. But how often do they play that? You?

818
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: Are you trying to write every episode? It's not literally,

819
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: it's like that's period done. No, great, I'll take it.

820
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: That's it done. I'm there with that. But where did

821
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: they use that song? They used it. It was literally

822
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: a bar fight scene. A bull was busting into the

823
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: bar and um I sat there on my couch and

824
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: collected a check. I'm blown away that it was that.

825
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: I have friends that have done sinc work. They're killing

826
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: it and they're not telling you, but like killing it. Wow,

827
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like good for you, Like Sink is

828
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: where it's at. I've been here lately trying to write,

829
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: specifically like for myself but also for st I've got

830
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: some friends that do a lot of that and they

831
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: make bank. My friend Brandon Ray rights sink. He just

832
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: sets days and I'm telling you, for that's it, that's it.

833
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: And he was writing and still does, and he has

834
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: a band called bad Lands Sons. But he is a

835
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: great writer. But he's like, you know, I can sit

836
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: and grind at a hundred country songs and maybe one

837
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 1: of them gets a hold. Or I can write Sink

838
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: and get one out of nine, maybe use somewhere and

839
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: actually pay my mortgage. That's crazy for a bar fight

840
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: scene on with the Kid that Kevin Costner show. And

841
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: the good thing is I'm hoping to get some more

842
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: of them because uh, I played the show in Vegas

843
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: and the guy who put on the show was one

844
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: of the producers, Taylor Sheridan of the show of the show,

845
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: and um, he told me it was like, text me

846
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: some more songs, like it's so crazy, Like I don't

847
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: know why all these nice people are wanting to help me.

848
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible, but it's it's just Okay, I'm

849
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: gonna use an analogy that I have with you for

850
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: why all these nice people want to help you? Okay, Okay.

851
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: I would go, why would Laney come over to my

852
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: house and just volunteer time to teach something? And then

853
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: also be, yeah, you see what I'm going here, and

854
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: also be so unselfish to go, oh, I don't need

855
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: any payment or I don't need to be in the video.

856
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm just here to help out. And I would go,

857
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: why in the world would you do that? Why? Because

858
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: you just like to help people, the same reason people

859
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: do that to you, and the same reason you're gonna

860
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: continue doing that and hopefully those people can. You do

861
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: that to people, And that's what we do, that's what

862
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: we were taught to do, look out for each other.

863
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: So that's why you gotta stop saying that because you

864
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: do the same thing for people, and I bet they wonder.

865
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: I know they wonder because I wonder. I was like,

866
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: why would Landy do that? Why would you just show up?

867
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: And like, what's the There was no play except for

868
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: you were just helping out. I'm just nice, yeah, and

869
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: and they were just nice to you. I'm not used

870
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: to people nice. So we're gonna stop that whole are

871
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: You're done? Second? You're doing it back already you don't

872
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: even know you're doing it, and you're doing it. Okay,

873
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm done. I did see that You're gonna go out

874
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: with Justin More and Tracy Lawrence. That's pretty cool. Justin

875
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: that's my dus market saw dude, that's my dude. And

876
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: one of the first shows that the Raging Idiots did

877
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: as a band, we opened for Tracy Lawrence like four

878
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: years ago in Florida, and it was freaking cool because

879
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: it's Tracy Lawrence. Like you go up listening to the radio,

880
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: then you know who Tracy Lawrence. Yeah, And then I mean,

881
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: now I listen to Kissing ninety six all the time

882
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: and I know every Tracy Lawrence song. How about the tape?

883
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: And so that's pretty cool. Late late nights and long necks.

884
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: When when did they tell you be on By the way,

885
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: you're perfect for this tour. Your country to the ball,

886
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: You're perfect for this tour. When did you get that

887
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: call that that was that was your tour about a

888
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: month ago? And I knew I was, I was on

889
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: the list, but they had not chosen, and uh, they

890
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: called me and I freaked out. I mean, I've been

891
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: a big fan of both of them for years, years

892
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: and years and years. I've seen their shows. I've actually

893
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: opened up for Tracy when I was like eighteen years

894
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: old at some bar in Monro's and uh, he did

895
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: you meet him? I didn't. And that's the thing to

896
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people, thank you for somebody spend a

897
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: much time with them. My friends have done full tours

898
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: and only met their opening act once or twice. And

899
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: so but it's still pretty cool that you're opening for

900
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: Tracy Lines. I can't believe I'm actually getting going like

901
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: a real tour with them. Yeah, so are let's see,

902
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna go January all the way to April. That's

903
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: a long one. So are you vanning it? We are,

904
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: We're sprinter vanning. Good for you. That's the grinds it. Yeah,

905
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: I have a truck and trailer that we take to

906
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: most of our shows. But I'm getting a tour manager.

907
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean like I'm starting to kind of stuff it up.

908
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: I've never had a tour manager, so we don't have

909
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: enough room with the truck anymore. So we're we're gonna

910
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: van it and I'm gonna do that as long as

911
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: I possibly can. The great thing about a tour manager

912
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: is that they manage everything. You know, food, everything is taking.

913
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: The bad thing about tour managers it's another bill to pay.

914
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: So hopefully you get a like a you're a guitar

915
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: player that can double and do both. I don't know,

916
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: are you just beginning a tour manager by himself? Wow? Okay,

917
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: Baller lives next to Garth. You got her own tour manager. Well,

918
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm like guard little town people. I'm like Foothill. Garth

919
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: passes by one day, I'm like, I'm passing out or

920
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: having a heart attack or something. Did you get the Hi?

921
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: Are your band? Do you have a band? What do

922
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: you have? It's uh me electric bass and drums. It's

923
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: gonna be a twenty minute say so. I mean it's

924
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: like quick throw and go. Yeah, first the first one up, Yeah,

925
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: and two because it's like a co headline and for

926
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: them too, so I'm sure they'll be playing. Yeah. Well,

927
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: if you want to go check the tour. It starts

928
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: January sixteenth and Dodge City, Kansas, rolls all the way

929
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: to April eleven, the Green Bay, Wisconsin. Are you guys

930
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: doing Nashville at all? I don't think I don't think so.

931
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: But you're playing Baton Rouge. That'd be a fun show

932
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: for you. It's gonna be fun. And you're playing Alexandria.

933
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: Will your family come out to those shows? Oh? My

934
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: red kneck family. They're all saying, how we're gonna get ticket?

935
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you're gonna play like this is this

936
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: is how I make my living. You're gonna play for

937
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: them tickets. Do you know how many free tickets you

938
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: get for a show? Have you then hit the talk yet? Yeah? Yeah,

939
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: that's cool. And Justin's a good dude. Justin's got a

940
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: good crew around him too. Yeah. So that I have

941
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: played a couple of shows with him. I played Baltimore

942
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: with him and then somewhere in upstate New York, and

943
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: I have not met him. I have not met Justine.

944
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: He's like you, Yeah, you guys have a lot of

945
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: like we're both again, we're both from really small towns

946
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: in Arkansas. We played ball against each other clowns were

947
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: so close, and we went to both super small schools.

948
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably because he went to poem Um

949
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: I went to Mountain Pine. Probably US, but I'm not sure.

950
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: He's oddly a really good athlete because he's, you know,

951
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: it's a pretty small guy. But he's a really good athlete.

952
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: And that's also got you did not want to get

953
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: a fight with, Like when it comes, I believe it

954
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: a gritty dude. All right, cool, So that's cool. So

955
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: what's what's happened when when you get to do it?

956
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: Do it the full record? What's that coming out? I

957
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: believe we're shooting for May. So basically the EP Redneck

958
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: Hollywood is going to roll into you know, the rest

959
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: of the record. I can't wait for everybody to hear it.

960
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, we uh did a full record with j Joyce.

961
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: I can't believe I got to get in there and

962
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: do a whole record with him. But everybody told me

963
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: they were like, he's kind of scary, you know, like

964
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: he's in timid Daton and he wears this black trench

965
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: coat and whatever. But by the time I was finished

966
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: recording the entire record, I mean, he's just he's one

967
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: of my greatest friends. Now, Kindred Spirits, Redneck Hollywood four

968
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: songs out. Now you may be hearing this after the

969
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: whole album comes out, because these things kind of exist

970
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: and do well for a long time. Especially after you

971
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: blow up. People are gonna be come and check out

972
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: the first time that you were on the podcast, your

973
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: first podcast. They're right, They're like, she didn't know how

974
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: to use the microphone back then. I'm just all blowing up. Listen,

975
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. And it's only the beginning for you.

976
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got to uh you listen, you just

977
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: moved it down nine years ago. I just got here

978
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: nine years ago. But now it's like, but isn't it crazy?

979
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: Like people are stepping into pay for some of your stuff.

980
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: You've got a management team which is wild looking out

981
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: for your stuff, you know, and they're investing right now.

982
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: They're investing in you because I'm sure, I'm sure you,

983
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it's usually the standard, right, and

984
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: they're probably putting more into you than you're putting back

985
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: into them right now, which is weird. And eventually they'll

986
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: get it back because once you blow up, then they

987
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: really then we're gonna be all right. Y're all right eventually.

988
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: But to have someone invest in you is a great feeling.

989
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: It is a great failure because it's money. Money ain't

990
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: free one. For the longest time, I was like, I

991
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: ain't nobody trying to work with me. I mean, looking

992
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: back on it now, I'm glad nothing happened for seven

993
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: and a half years. I mean I say nothing happened,

994
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: but it was. It was happening in the way it

995
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: was supposed to. But yeah, I was I was not ready.

996
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: I thought I was ready and I was sixteen years old.

997
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna being the next Taylor as well,

998
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: but didn't happen. Nine years later publishing Dell Record deal management,

999
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: you gonna get a tour manager. Look at you. I

1000
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: don't go up to hand Montana wig no more hand.

1001
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: You should bring that out. We should. We should come

1002
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: on the show and do uh handah Montana might go.

1003
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: That be fun, have a bring it back come on

1004
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: at Laney Wilson Music l a I anyway at Laney

1005
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: Wilson Music and uh, yeah you're on TikTok. I am.

1006
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: I just got a TikTok. It's fine. So I hadn't

1007
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: I hadn't done anything cool on They are just yet

1008
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: it's my favorite. I don't do a lot on there,

1009
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: but I'll watch a lot of stuff. Yeah, it's good content,

1010
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: good music, discovery. You can go down a rabbit hole

1011
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: real fast, quickly. I got a lot of rabbitues, a

1012
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: lot of places. All right, Uh, Laney, gonna talk to you,

1013
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: Episode two twenty two, Laney Wilson, be sure to check

1014
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: out Redneck Hollywood. And then if it's after me or

1015
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, recording this in I don't know, check

1016
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: out maybe your third record maybe out by that time. Yeah,

1017
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: there you go, thank you. We'll see you next time.

1018
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: M h m hmmmm