1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Never told your production of I Heart Radio. Okay, guys, 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: we are back today with one of our faiths, Melody Bray. 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Thank you, Thank you. Y'all are my favorite too. 5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: We loved having yeah obviously because we're like, please, can 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: you come back? How about now? How about now? How 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: about today? I'll always have time for you And if 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: you have been listening when Melodies on, we do typically 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: dive real deep into politics and regards with black women 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: in the fight and the push that they've had as 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: well as advocating and what it looks like on local levels. 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: And of course the journey and the fight is not 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: over at all. It never will be, obviously, but it's 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: only fair that we come to celebrate the victories when 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: we can, including that we made it through the inauguration 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: about any big, big, big books than the swearing in 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: of Georgia's first black senator and the first Jewish senator 18 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: and the youngest seated senator today and uh to talk 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: about what it looks like for the future and how 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: we make sure to not slow down. So welcome back, Melody, 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, it's been great. I am just 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: basking in the glow of calm and normous. That's so 23 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: sad that we're like it's normal. My bar is very 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: very low, very low. Yeah, I think we all are. 25 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: A news story that said Joe Biden more masks on 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: White House balcony. I was like, wow, wow, so it is. 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: It's hilarious. And the fact that that now, yeah, people 28 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: are getting mad about things that are so ridiculous, that phenomenal. 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Let's go back to just talking about the filibuster whatever, right, 30 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, And you know, Melody, you and I 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: had a brief moment where I was like texting you 32 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: pretty soon after the Senate seats were called, and I 33 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, we're gonna have to have 34 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: you back on the show. And then before we could 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: even talk about plans of when you should come back, 36 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: all hell broke loose. Yeah, and we everything just paused. 37 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: So I didn't get to ask you then, which is 38 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: appropriate that I should ask you. Now, what was your 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: reaction when you saw that Warnock and as off or 40 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: claiming the victories of and calling for the Senate win. 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Working together leading up to it, we all kind of 42 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: said to one another. It's not about the wind, guys, 43 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's about us fighting for people, empowering, giving 44 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: them a voice, making sure that folks know that somebody 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: is listening to them, and they have avenues provided to 46 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: them to express their vote. But I'm gonna go ahead 47 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: and say it's better when you win, um right. The 48 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: first half of the next day was glorious. It was 49 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: like I got up, the sun was shining. Um you know, 50 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: the text and the emails and phone calls among one another, 51 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: it was just I mean, here in Georgia having the 52 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: goal post moved from November three out to January five, 53 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of us gave up our thanksgivings and 54 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: our Christmas is and our New Year's time. You know, 55 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: some folks didn't travel to see family because they were 56 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: serving people out on the streets and didn't want to 57 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: put their family in at risk. To know that that 58 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: sacrifice actually resulted in the result you wanted, it's just great. 59 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: And then being able to see them get sworn in. 60 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's so rare that you work hard on 61 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: something you get that immediate gratification as opposed to like 62 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: years from now, I'll till that soil and I'll be 63 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: able to, you know, reap something from it. So it 64 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: was great for half a day. For half a day, 65 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean for sure. I know the night before, I 66 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: don't know about you. I think we did text a 67 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: little bit. I was like, I stayed up all night 68 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: the night before, going back and forth, chacking results, checking results. 69 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: What was your night like? We got word from the 70 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Georgia Democratic Party at about five o'clock p m. Four 71 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: Poles closed that things were looking very good, in a 72 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: very confident way, more confident than I would have expected. 73 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: So I went to sleep kind of feeling like I'm 74 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: gonna wake up and this is all going to turn 75 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: out a lot. I went to sleep with confidence, so 76 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and you were all exhausted. Um, So it was, I 77 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: mean it was. It was very clear, very early, uh, 78 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: with internal polling of how it was going to land. 79 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: And I don't think I have asked you any of this. 80 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: How did you respond? How did you react the night before? 81 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: And then the morning you woke up? Well, I not 82 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: having this connection that worked party either. I thought it 83 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: was going to be much closer than I had ever 84 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: believed it would possibly be, but the Democrats would still lose. 85 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: And I was happy with that, but I was pretty like, 86 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go to bed knowing when I wake 87 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: up it's gonna be sad news. Yeah, and that's that's 88 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: kind of been my way since even before Donald Trump win. 89 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Like that night, I was like, I'm not staying up 90 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: for this because I know my mind is it won't 91 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: be good for me. So yeah, that's kind of my 92 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: thing is I try to unplug from it as much 93 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: as I can, and then in the morning I will 94 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: deal with it. So that's kind of how I was. 95 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: And I was trying to manage my mom's expectations because 96 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: my mom, this is from a really conservative area in Georgia, 97 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: but she was really excited and she's like, what if 98 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: they win and what if they win? And I was like, Mom, 99 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: get your head out of the closs calmed down down. Yeah. 100 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: I actually was doing a back and forth texting or 101 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: d m NG with producer Sophie who is a part 102 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: of our Heart Network who lives in California. So she 103 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: and I were just going back and forth talking about 104 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: the issues that we actually, you know, talked about Loffler 105 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: and the connotations that she would bring in had she 106 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: had one. So it was a weird like interaction to 107 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: see someone on the outside of perspective looking in and 108 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: being like, good luck, guys, even though again we don't 109 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: necessarily like, yes, we voted, but as for a person 110 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: who did a little bit of volunteering but not a lot, 111 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: don't feel like that was much we can do outside 112 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: of that. But it was really interesting to talk about, 113 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: like within our circle. How obviously it affected us very deeply. 114 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: It is a thing because it's Georgia. That's where we live, 115 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: this is where our representatives and things are changing, and 116 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: we'd never really like when the last time we spoke, 117 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: we all talked about fifty fifty we're gonna give at 118 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: least just I finally just get one of them. I'm 119 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: gonna be really happy. But to do this like blue 120 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: my expectation out of the water. I was like, oh 121 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: my god, it happened. It happened in my lifetime, as 122 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, in this moment. And then having someone from 123 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: California being like, oh my god, y'all are gonna save 124 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: the country type of thing, I was like, what. There 125 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: was something about like being in this space at that 126 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: time that was just a really slightly you could feel 127 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: the momentum, you could feel the energy that you know 128 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: you're from California just didn't have the benefit of being 129 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: able to to kind of feel what the ground swell 130 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: felt like while you were here for those maybe two 131 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: weeks leading up to it. So I need to also ask, 132 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: because I have to did you get a chance to 133 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: celebrate both of you? And if you did, what did 134 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: you do? Did I get a chance to celebrate? And 135 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: I know when chaos broke, I feel like I was 136 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: in like everything's falling apart. So I don't remember actually celebrating, 137 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: but maybe the day of they're swearing in is when 138 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: I actually celebrated. But did y'all get a chance to 139 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: do so? Well? I on Inauguration Day, as you know, Samantha, 140 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: I celebrated New Year. I did like champagne, I ate 141 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: keys and greens and yeah, like I did. I did 142 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: my New Year. I was like, well on January six, 143 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I got okay, one, you screwed me 144 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: over already, I'm gonna try again January. So that was 145 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: kind of my day of like releasing a breath and 146 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: taking that moment of wow. I really didn't think this 147 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: would happen in Georgia, Like, I still have a lot 148 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: of problems with Swing states and that whole narrative. But 149 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: I felt like one of the hottest girls at a 150 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: party or something like looking at me, so much attention 151 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: coming your way. Somebody postcars, So that that's been interesting. Yeah, no, 152 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: I did. I honestly, it's you asking that question. Is 153 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: actually the first time that I was like, I guess 154 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: I didn't really celebrate, which is pretty sad to think 155 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: of it, but no, yeah, I didn't realize that we 156 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: went out to drinks that night on the fifth, like 157 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: before anything really came in after the poles are closed, um, 158 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: and that was it. So maybe some celebration is in order. Yeah, immediately, 159 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: come on, you've been working too hard not to celebrate. 160 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: Make a note Smith, professional advice. I got you. Come on, 161 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: come on, I got you. It's gonna be like a 162 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: office coffee but yeah, I got you office coffee free, 163 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: right free. I think we can don't promise her that well. Alright, Stickler, Samantha, So, 164 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: as an advocate who you have been working on this 165 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: for a while and it has been a lot of 166 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: hard work that you put into it, can you summarize 167 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: what this last year has been like for you and 168 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: for people who have been trying to make change. It's 169 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: hard to speak for an entire like people people about 170 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: trauma best. I think that particularly enjured it. It's a 171 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: special time ether COVID on top of it, and a 172 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: lack of opportunity, the normal opportunity you have to connect 173 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: with people and relationally build something with people. And then 174 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: we were given this gift of having a common goal 175 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: that we can work towards together, complete strangers in a 176 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of situations, and I don't have 177 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: to talk about like where you're from or what do 178 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: you do for a living or any of those pleasantries. 179 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: We cut the crap and what do you need for me? 180 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: And how can I help? And how are we going 181 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: to get this thing done together? And so this past 182 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: year for me has been an amazing blessing of being 183 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: able to collectively work toward and make an impact with 184 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: people who I normally wouldn't cross paths with. And even 185 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: in the before times, you know, that's been amazing and wonderful. 186 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: And I think it also gave an opportunity to think 187 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: about how many times are there things that were presented 188 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: that seem like they would never happen or seem like 189 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: they're impossible, and so we just don't even embark on it. 190 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: But there's a vision and you get a few people 191 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: to come alongside you in that like what can be accomplished. 192 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: Um So, coming out of the cluster that was to 193 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: walk away as a group of organizers in Atlanta with 194 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: that sentiment, I think that that has the ability to 195 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: really change this state moving forward if we continue to 196 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: remember that and keep it at the forefront of our minds. 197 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: It's been a long, hard road and we know organizations 198 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: have been working for a while now. When we talk 199 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: about Black Voats Matter and Latasha around who has been 200 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: working and I think they had a huge ordeal in 201 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: eighteen where their busses which they toured through uh Georgia 202 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: trying to get people to vote, especially black voters to 203 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: come out, older black voters taking them out, and they 204 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: were stopped by the state as pandering and all these 205 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: things that it was so obnoxious. But to see them 206 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: in this fight and get to this point to be 207 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: able to push and get these results, which has been 208 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: a long time in the making. I mean, the question 209 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: is where do we think we go from here? I 210 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: mean it feels like we can only go to the back, 211 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: to the bottom. You know what, I'm there this the 212 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: pessimist of me. But but as a state and as 213 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: the new political mission has stepped into power, what do 214 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: we see? What do we Where do we go from where? 215 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: How do we continue to push the progress? So to me, 216 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: it's that exact sentiment of seeing things that seem like 217 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: they will never come to fruition come to fruition, having 218 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: that push progress forward. So, okay, now we have two 219 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: Democratic senators in Georgia, our entire General Assembly are state Senate, 220 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: and our state House are majority control Republicans. And the 221 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: conventional wisdom is that is the way it always will 222 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: be because it's Georgia. Well, take a lesson that we 223 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: just learned and say that that doesn't have to be 224 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: the way it always is if we can mount up 225 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: people who have a vision and are able to articulate it, 226 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: and it's done in a way that other people have 227 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: that vision and want to make change. So where do 228 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: we go from here? Is not resting on our laurels, 229 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: not saying like we've checked a box, we're good. We 230 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: need to make sure and that goes outside of Georgia. 231 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: You know, South Carolina was real close. You know it 232 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: was real close. There was there was a possibility there, 233 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: and towards the end you can get into the quote 234 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: unquote scandals and whatever that that affected lintograms race there 235 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: or some folks were talking about, you know what happened 236 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: here in Georgia. Easily, that same blueprint could be utilized 237 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: in Mississippi or Louisiana or perhaps even Alabama because of 238 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: the same kind of demographic makeups that are in those states. 239 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: And what would happen if all of a sudden you 240 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: have all these little purple and blue pockets that pop 241 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: up in the South. What would that do? So to 242 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: answer your question, where do we go from here? Is 243 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: we remember and use that as a motivator working forward 244 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: that like things can change if we decide that we 245 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: want to change them. Right, and you're talking about Alabama, 246 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean they had Doug Jones as a Democratic senator 247 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: and that was shocked. That was a shock amongst a 248 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: lot of politicians and a lot of people within Alabama 249 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: and around the country. But again that was also credited 250 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: to once again black women stepping up and really pushing 251 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: him forward and talking about the need for this type 252 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: of change and then it kind of slipped away, and 253 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: whether it's because people got comfortable, or whether it's because 254 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: the other Republican party came up and we realized this 255 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: is a hard fight slash less suppressed more, which is 256 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: another conversation we need to talk about. But yeah, we're 257 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: definitely looking at other states like that and why it's 258 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: important to keep up the momentum is a huge, huge 259 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: conversation that we have to keep having. I'm gonna lie, 260 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm scared that it's going away. I think that fear 261 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: can be healthy, if fear kept within its bounds can 262 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: be a great motivating that's fair, that's true. True. Yeah, 263 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: I love the idea that other states and people in 264 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: other states are looking at Georgia and thinking, oh, like 265 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: maybe maybe this can be done. And you know, there 266 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: has been this wonderful feeling of Wow, Georgia elected to 267 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: difmocrats I never thought would happen. But then on the hand, 268 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: you have like Marjorie Taylor Green, So there's like that 269 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: kind of where I'm like, damn it, it's true. Yeah, 270 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: that's true. But talking about different states and kind of 271 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: like what you were talking about, Samantha with suppression. Um 272 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: what should we be paying attention to in different states 273 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: that are ramping up, like putting laws in place um 274 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: our statutes in order to suppress votes. So keep in 275 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: mind that, you know, we've been talking about federal election, 276 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: but the majority of voter rights legislation is coming from 277 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: the state level. There have been has been discussion on 278 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: the federal side of putting some teeth back into the 279 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act, but there's no guarantee in that. And 280 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: then when you do that, the people who actually implement 281 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: it are still on the state level. So we need 282 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: to focus on that. Your state senators, your state House representatives, 283 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: what are they doing and so things that I would 284 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: encourage people to do. Watch the nightly news. I know, 285 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: it's like a six o'clock I'm not going to sit down, 286 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: and the woman with way too much makeup on her 287 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: face and the guy with the spray hair on like it. 288 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: It feels like it could be a complete waste of time. 289 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: But at the very least, like fast forward through on 290 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: your DVR. DVR at fast forward through and see what 291 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: pops up because they are reporting on it. Subscribe to 292 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: your local newspaper and support local journalism, and even if 293 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: it's an e read that pops into your email inbox, 294 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: a lot of them have like a politic splog or 295 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: a politics newsletter that goes out to be able to 296 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: just see what's happening, and then if something does happen 297 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: that looks like it's going to negatively affect people's rights 298 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: at the ballot box, talk to your representative. These folks 299 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: are not voted in by hundreds and hundreds of thousands 300 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: of votes, particularly in non presidential years. It's a very 301 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: small electorate that goes out for local, down ballot, non 302 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: presidential elections. So your vote is far more powerful than 303 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: you think it is. And speaking of that, we're seeing 304 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: it in Georgia. We're seeing it in real time and 305 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: it's being blested pretty quickly. Places like Wynette County which 306 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: had a big turn alt for marginalized votes, like this 307 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: was a big area that did turn blue and it 308 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: gave a significant amount of votes to help flip it. 309 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: And we have the new chairwoman of the election board 310 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: coming out strong talking about we're gonna take out the 311 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: absent the voting were no excuse after state voting, or 312 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: we're never gonna win again. And she is identified as 313 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: a Republican party, so she outright said if we want 314 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: to win, we have to take away votes. Said the 315 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: thing you're not supposed to say out, which is like 316 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: voter suppression. One on one, guys, don't be sneaking about it, 317 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: but that that's that conversation is we're gonna see this 318 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: in high gear, and they're gonna do it when they 319 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: think people aren't paying attention. Because we also know that 320 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: within our state they're talking about doing the double voter 321 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: I D check, essentially saying that Okay, not only do 322 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: you have to show it to us once, you have 323 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: to send us another copy of it again to verify, 324 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: which is an absurdity in itself. It's like it's already 325 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: complicated to register because and also you need a typically 326 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: identifying number, So why do we need to do photo 327 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: copies to mail in to mail in to mail in 328 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: essentially like repeatedly, Also, if you've ever been underage and drank, 329 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: it's not hard to forge a photo copied driver's license, Like, 330 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: is this going to be the level of security that 331 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: we're putting over voting system? Photo copy driver's licenses? Like, 332 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: come on, that's clearly they're not only are there better ways, 333 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: but you're clearly showing your hand as to you're just 334 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: wanting to make this overly complicated, make it over compiated. 335 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: And also this whole narrative of people wanting to be 336 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: fraudulent voting, which we already know is not a thing, 337 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: this whole idea that what they say dead people are illegal, 338 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: which is started to self the local immigrants, they're doing 339 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the illegal votes, illegal votes, and you're like, no, these 340 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: people are literally trying to remain in the country and 341 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: just remaining in the shadows because you've put the fear 342 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: of God in them that if they do anything wrong, 343 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: any bit things wrong, that they're going to be deported 344 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: at any moment or detained for months and months and 345 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: months and months at a time. So I'm looking at 346 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: all of that, what can we do to make sure 347 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: not only are we on top of things again, not 348 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: only calling out representatives, how do we highlight and make 349 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: sure these things do not go under the radar. So 350 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: the first thing I would say is this might sound 351 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: super simple, but paying attention to who you vote for 352 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: because we're not always in the rooms, we're not always 353 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: on the committees, we're not presenting the bills, but our 354 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: representatives are and should be, and so pay attention to that. 355 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: And when it comes election time and folks are doing 356 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: door knocking and they're doing their town halls or you know, 357 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: coming to those neighborhood meetings, ask the question, what's your 358 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: position on this? What are you planning to do to 359 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: protect my right to vote for you? If I choose 360 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: to do that, make sure that they know before they 361 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: even get into the seat that this is important to 362 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: you as a constituent. So I think that that's that's 363 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: super important and a relatively easy you know, it's only 364 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: going to come up every two to four years that 365 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: you're having to kind of do that kind of work. 366 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: Another thing that I've found in my research has actually 367 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: really help, so doing the phone calls, doing the letters, 368 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Sure it is noticed and it 369 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: can be noticed, but doing things as a group tends 370 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: to get more attraction. And maybe it's not voter rights, 371 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's transportation, maybe it's climate change, maybe it's I 372 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: want more biplanes in my city. Having small coalitions, it 373 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: does not have to be fancy. You don't need a 374 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: website or a web page. Just having a few people 375 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: go down to your capital periodically to engage with your 376 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: representatives on a particular issue. Two things happen. One is 377 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: that they perceive you to be organized even when you're not, 378 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: which is powerful. Second is that you're not the new 379 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: kid that pops up when the bill of issues suddenly arises, 380 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: like they're like, oh, Samantha, yeah, you come here every 381 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: quarter just to talk about your desire for you know, 382 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: increased subway access. Now we've got this bill up. If 383 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: it's between taking a call from Samantha and taking a 384 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: call from Annie, who I've never seen before, I'm gonna 385 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: talk poor poor Annie. I'm gonna talk and her group 386 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: and her group of you know for rag tag friends 387 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: that go down there talk to their foes and then 388 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: go eat lunch, you know, afterward. So a little bit 389 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: goes a long way. And the last thing I would say, 390 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: So I did this, and the reason that I say that, 391 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: in Atlanta we have a huge issue with exclusive gentrification, 392 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: um and so I did some work in affordable housing 393 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: on the city side, and it wasn't a big group 394 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: of us, but we showed up at city council meetings 395 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: and it wasn't long before the city council members were like, so, 396 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: what do you suggest? What do you think we should do? 397 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: And we didn't have any idea because we weren't anticipating 398 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: they would ask such a question, but they asked the 399 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: question because we kept showing up, so to show up. 400 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: I love that this kind of reminds me of the 401 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: Parks on Wreck episode or she's suspended, so she can't 402 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: sit and do nothing. She starts creating groups and organizations 403 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: PCP remember y'all not for the DRUP vaguely, but she 404 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna be advocate and I'm going to 405 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: get into their faces and we need to change and 406 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: make this Parks great. And so she decided as a 407 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: citizen to create a group. Anyway, it was a great episode, 408 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: but it does kind of remind me of that situation. 409 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 1: And and oftentimes, much like her group and a lot 410 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: of these groups, it is female centric, Like it ends 411 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: up being mainly women who are these organizers and come 412 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: out with these conversations and these knees and realizing, hey, 413 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: this is how we do it. And I think it's 414 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: very interesting that when you look at that perspective, you're like, 415 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: there it is, that's why women get things done. I mean, 416 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: we're pretty good at communicating, so let's use it for 417 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: the good, you know. So how do we honor people 418 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: who have been tirelessly fighting to push for voter rights 419 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: and fighting suppression and bringing awareness to these issues within 420 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: individual states and specifically to this Senate race and Georgia 421 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: Sintaid is near and dear to our hearts. Yeah, I think, 422 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: And this isn't just the folks who have been working 423 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: on this recently, Like this is like civil rights two 424 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: point oh or three point oh. So I would even say, 425 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: like we're not even necessarily honoring the work that we 426 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: are presently doing. We are honoring the history that has 427 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: come before us for decades. And I'm doing my best 428 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: to honor and what I'm doing, you know, in my city. 429 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: So how do you do that? Being involved as much 430 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: as you can? I mean, everybody has a lot on 431 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: their plate. We've got jobs, we have family, we've got 432 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: COVID and the reality that we're living in. Sit and 433 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: think about what matters to you and try to make 434 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: an impact in what matters. Maybe voting rights is not 435 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: your thing. I don't even think that's necessarily the point 436 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: is to get everybody on board to say, like, you 437 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: need to care about this, but you do need to 438 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: care about something, and if all must care about something 439 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: and do something in that something area, that can multiply 440 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: change and kind of increase impact. So I think the 441 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: honoring the low hanging fruit is like vote and you know, 442 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: make sure your vote is informed in that kind of thing. 443 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: I think the true honoring is actually do what you 444 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: see other people doing in an area that really impassions you, 445 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: that really fires you up, and let's multiply this thing. 446 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: And specific to that, we when talking about addressing specific 447 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: issues or interests or passions, what are some things that 448 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: we need to pay attention to when it comes to 449 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: rights for women and right specifically with women of color. 450 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: I know one of the big conversation is ratifying the 451 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: e r A or the Equal Rights Amendment, which is 452 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: still a conversation and it is absurd to me, but whatever, 453 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: But what is some of the key issues that we 454 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: should be paying attention to as this new administration is 455 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: has taken power. Yeah, well, first, when you said that, 456 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: so recently, I was watching an episode of The West Wing, 457 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: which is from like early two thousands that they were 458 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: talking about the r A and I'm like shaking my head, 459 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: like how we still talking about this same thing, but 460 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: in that same level of frustration, I think we can 461 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: take a little bit of encouragement by even seeing Biden 462 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: cabinet picks so far of really being intentional about picking 463 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: women and women of color and a very like diverse 464 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: descent and putting him into the positions of power, and 465 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: we know what that does and how that trickles down 466 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: and how those policies will be shaped differently because it's 467 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: a different perspective on the table than has been there traditionally. 468 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: So that's one thing. And then secondly, also being encouraged 469 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: by how the Vice President Harris has already been utilized 470 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: within the administration, So for folks who may not know, 471 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: typically a vice president, you know, isn't really incorporated into 472 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: the day to day of the white like they have 473 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: their own policies, kind of like the first Lady. They 474 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: have their pet projects that they do, and they're kind 475 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: of brought in um as a hired gun occasionally, particularly 476 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: on a big Senate vote or something like that. But 477 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: in this case, by all reports, Kamala is in on 478 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: the briefings, she's in on the meetings, she is participating 479 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: in the setting of the agenda. So I'm encouraged by 480 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: that to know that women and women of color are 481 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: going to be crafting the policies that matter to us. 482 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: I think that's huge. But one last thing I would 483 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: encourage people to do as well. Biden did run on 484 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: specific women's agendas and it's still up on the website. 485 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Go check it out. I right before we came on, 486 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: I logged in just to make sure that it's still there. Um, 487 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: he has a section on Biden's agenda for women, and 488 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: read over it and commit it to memory. Because I 489 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: honestly don't care who you are. I still want to 490 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: hold you accountable come time for election and know that 491 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: you are actually following through on all the things that 492 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: you promised me when I voted for you. Right, And 493 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: that's a great segue into my last question, because that's 494 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: definitely a big conversation as we have this. Oh, thank 495 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: you black women who have worked so hard. Thank you 496 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: women of color who have pushed for these boats and 497 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, tirelessly went forward and kept pushing and kept 498 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: pushing and work your asses off to get this done. 499 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: Now they're like, okay, we got you here. You're acknowledging 500 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: that we did this all. Are you going to hold 501 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: up your part of the margat this conversation that yeah, 502 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: that you said that you would make these changes and 503 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: make these corrections that have been so important for years, 504 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: and and that's kind of that question is, so, how 505 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: do we keep the people we elected that we said 506 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: we want you to be in this position? How do 507 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: we hold them accountable? Yeah, And that goes back to 508 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: making sure that you have a pulse on what's going on. 509 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be way easier to talk to your 510 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: local representing like you can't. You can try and call 511 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 1: up Biden to give the piece of your rhyme. Try that. Um, 512 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little easier to get to your senator, 513 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be even easier to get to your 514 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: as representative. So as you go down the ballot, to 515 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: be able to reach out to these folks, um. And 516 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: again in the same way of doing it in coalition 517 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: groups in areas that matter to you. So women's issues 518 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: like healthcare, if that's an issue for you, UM, and 519 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: making sure that women's health centers are protected and funded, 520 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: then you're allowed to express that in a group on 521 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: a consistent basis to your representative and they start to 522 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: get to know you. They have an office in Washington, 523 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: but they all have a local office in their district 524 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: and they are oftentimes are either physically there or representative 525 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: is there to take a meeting on their behalf. Make 526 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: a meeting, go talk to them. That's how you hold 527 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: them accountable. Yeah, I love that. Make a meeting sounds 528 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: so Professor like, I'm I'm already like, make a meeting. 529 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: For instance, I did have one girlfriend whom she has 530 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: a magic brain injury and she needs ketamine injections, which 531 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: is like a I believe a schedule three narcotics, so 532 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: you have to go through all these hoops. But that's 533 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: literally the only way that she can function. And there 534 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: was some issues with they were going to do a 535 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: crackdown on the fed level on ketamine injections, and insurance 536 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: wasn't going to cover it anymore, and she literally would 537 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: be fed with. She went down to at this time, 538 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: it was Senator Isaacson's office. She calls me from the 539 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: office and she's like, what do I do? And I'm like, 540 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: don't leave until someone talks to you. And so she 541 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: went to the nice secretary who was lovely and asked 542 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: if there was time, and they said, oh, you know, 543 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: we could take a take a message and and and 544 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: reach out to you. And she was like this, okay, 545 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: I'll wait, and she just sat in the front office 546 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: and they gave her a meeting because oh, I guess 547 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: this chick isn't leaving, and I guess. I mean that's 548 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: why I say, do something that matters to you, because 549 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: for her, the different prince was whether she could work 550 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: or not, whether she could get out of and so 551 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: sitting in the office for a little bit longer ain't 552 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: no thing, because it's better than laying in bed, right, 553 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: But they don't want you sitting there for days at 554 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: a time. Well, they don't want that negative attention in general, 555 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: and as we know, which is unfortunate to where we are. 556 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: And we could also talk about the whole labeling of 557 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: cancel culture and it being uh misconstrued to being canceled 558 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: as opposed to being held accountable. And there's a whole 559 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: different conversation and we've actually talked about it before, but 560 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: we can definitely see it playing out today in politics 561 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: as they're like, oh, because I'm far right there canceling 562 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: me and like, you're still talking, You're not canceling calm now, 563 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: which is a whole Also one of our representatives who 564 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: she continues to say that as well, this is just 565 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: cancel culture, and I'm like, well, you literally said that yourself. 566 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: There's no editing. You're being called out for the things 567 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: that you've said. So take responsibility, which is a whole 568 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: different conversation in itself. And it makes me sad that, yes, 569 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: people like her have taken away from some of the 570 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: great things that is happening, such as Senator Reverend Warnock 571 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: coming out and coming hard in about the voting rights conversation, 572 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: as well as Senator Osof coming in with his new agendas. 573 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: And I love it because it's like, yes, let's get 574 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: this underway, and and it's been phenomenal to see and 575 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: said that the first couple of weeks is just trying 576 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: to undo some of the things in the past four years. 577 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: But it's at the same time kind of like yeah, 578 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: having the bricks lifted off of your already beaten down 579 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: body from the This past Sunday, I was sitting watching 580 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: Meet the Press and I was just like playing on 581 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: my phone and I kind of looked up just to 582 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: see what they're talking about, and I was like, oh, 583 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: you know, just the point like cabinet appointments, went back 584 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: to playing on my phone. It was just so nice. 585 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: It was so nice. I'm excited, and we know again 586 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: there's a lot of work ahead, and we know that 587 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: that we have to keep our representatives and are elected 588 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: officials accountable. And that's a conversation, because yes, the conversation 589 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: is is this a true democracy? Has this being is 590 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: this a fair representation? And there's a lot of back 591 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: and forth about wealth is it? You know? And and 592 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: that's something that we have to be a part of 593 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: as well, and pushing and making sure those changes happen 594 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: and making sure that our voices are heard and that 595 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: people who can't advocate for themselves that we are able 596 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: to do that because it has to happen. It has 597 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: to be a thing in order for true democracy to happen. Again, 598 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: we know as a huge conflict and debate in itself. 599 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: And I will say just for one thing that I 600 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: guess I should call myself out on that you bring 601 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: up the idea that my friend could sit in that 602 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: office for a while, is a point of privilege like, 603 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: she's not an hourly worker. She talked to her boss, 604 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: let them know what they were doing. So when you're saying, 605 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, speaking on behalf of people who can't speak 606 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: for themselves, that I'm glad you bring that up because 607 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: it's a very good point that there were plenty of 608 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: other people who were also getting those same infusions, those 609 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: cademine infusions, who are suffering with the same consequences as 610 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: my friend, and she was in a position of privilege 611 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: to be able to do something about it um and 612 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: she chose to use her privilege to help herself but 613 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: also benefit others. So I think it's important to keep 614 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: that in mind too. And yeah, that's definitely a conversation 615 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: you know that I have had as a social worker 616 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: coming through trying to be like, this is why I'm 617 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: doing this, this is what I want to do. But 618 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: it's so easy to be swept up with being angry 619 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: that I forget that part. I forget the part about oh, 620 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: this is not just about me. But yeah, I think 621 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: we definitely have to keep having these conversations. And though 622 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: the dramatic bits are kind of listened, I guess because 623 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: we have pushed out, voted out, some of the more 624 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: um horrific incendiary tinder boxes. Right, we still have to 625 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: keep paying attention and we still have to have that conversation. 626 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: We still have to look at our local areas, and 627 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: we're not the only one. I know. California is going 628 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: through some big things on their local level, including the 629 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: fact that they appointed for now vice President Harris, which 630 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: felt kind of insulting for a lot of these citizens 631 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: to California, and I think that's something that should be 632 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,479 Speaker 1: talked about. Why are we not allowing for that to happen? 633 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: Why can't they vote? What's the problem? You know, it 634 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: is a lot of things that we have to look 635 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: at and keep talking about and talking about the fact 636 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 1: that this does affect women and those marginalized to the core. 637 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: Like if things are not fixed for the marginalized community 638 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: and for those who people aren't paying attention to sometimes 639 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: are ignoring both of those things, it becomes a massive problem. 640 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: And it becomes what has been happening as of late, 641 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: including the riots. I mean less, we forget seventy million 642 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: people voted in the other direction. Those people are still here, 643 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: They're still in our country. There's still our bosses, there's 644 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: still our neighbors. A man leaving the White House doesn't 645 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: change the landscape of our country, that's true. But we 646 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: can still celebrate the victories that we have and we will, 647 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: and damn it, we will. And you better get a 648 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: bought you some whisky not too long ago? Did I've 649 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: already finished that bottle? Though I was gonna say it 650 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: wasn't actually a long time ago. Probably all you another 651 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: bottle because it's been a while, it's been two years. 652 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: Time doesn't exist in mind quarantine to yeah, but I 653 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: will buy you another one so you could actually celebrate 654 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: as you have put in a lot of work, and 655 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: you've put in a lot of work for us, and 656 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: you're definitely gonna be coming back on still because we're 657 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna keep talking about the different issues that are affecting 658 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: especially when we talked about gentrification and housing for women, 659 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: because that's still a thing. But we just want to 660 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: thank you for being here and doing that work, and 661 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: doing that work the ground, and coming back and reporting 662 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: to us and also continuing to teach others to do more, 663 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: because I think that takes a lot out of people, 664 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: and for you to be able to do that, for 665 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: you to be willing to do that is huge and 666 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: it has been a privilege for us. So thank you 667 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: so much, Melane, thank you, thank you, Thanks guys, And 668 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: honestly like doing things from your passion, it just doesn't 669 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel quite as taxing or like work. Like 670 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: this was an amazing year and I'm super proud of 671 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: what we as a state we're able to do. And 672 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: it's nice to win. It feels better when you win, 673 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: like final line in a movie like in Between there's 674 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: been this battle between two I'm talking about The Godfather, 675 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: which I have seen it but don't remember, but like 676 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: at the end, the winning size like it's nice to win, 677 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: so perfect. I love it. Yes, thanks as always for 678 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: joining us a Melody. Where can the good listeners find you? 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