1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Blue 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Big Day VAQUT podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen. It's Monday, the fourth of November 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: in London. I'm Caroline Hipgiz. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, Donald Trump and 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris make a final dash across swing states as 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: markets prepare for volatility. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Rachel Reeves concedes that she underestimated the UK's budget gap, 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: as James Dyson describes her tax hikes as growth killing. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Plus promising big gains from even bigger losses. We take 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: a closer look at Novo Nordisk's Ozembic successor. 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: With one day left until election day in the United States, 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: the race between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump remains on 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: a knife edge. The presidential election looks set for a 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: photo finish, with polls showing voters narrowly split both nationally 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: and a cross pivotal swing states. Speaking to supporters in Georgia, 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: former President Trump offered this message on what to expect 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: if he wins. 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: We stand on the verge of the four greatest years 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: in American history. You watch, it's going to be so good. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: It's going to be so much fun. It'll be nasty 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: a little bit at times, and maybe at the beginning 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: in particular, but it's going to be something. 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 2: Speaking at another rally in Pennsylvania, the Republican nominee used 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: large parts of his speech to suggest, without evidence, that 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: the election system, polling firms, and media were corrupt and 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: conspiring against his campaign. 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: Notably, Vice President Kamala Harris chose not to mention Trump 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: by name during her speech at a church in Detroit, Michigan. However, 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: the focus of her comments was clear. 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: While we know there are those who seek to deepen 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: divisions so hate, spread fear, and cause chaos, this moment 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: in our nation has to be about so much more 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: than partisan. 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Politics, Kamala Harris speaking there. Sunday's New York Times SIENA 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: survey shows Harris head in five of the seven likely 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: swing states. ABC's five thirty eight election model, which uses polling, 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: economic and demographic data to explore likely election outcomes, suggests 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: that Trump has a slight edge, with a fifty three 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: percent chance of winning. Now we will have full rolling 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: coverage cross Bloomberg Radio on Results Night, with the latest 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: updates available via our News Now, audiocasts on Apple, Spotify, Alexa, 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: and the Bloomberg website. 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: The historically tie Poland data has led investors to walk 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: back bets on Donald Trump winning the US election. The 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: dollar has weakened today on the Bloomberg Dollar spot Index 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: at for hitting a four month high last week. That's 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: a survey data showed no clear advantage for either candidate 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: in the final few hours of the campaign. Last week, 51 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: Bloomberg calculator that hedge funds, asset managers and other speculators 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: held some seventeen point eight billion dollars in bullish greenback 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: position as part of a so called dollar Trump trade. 54 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: The price of oil has risen after OPEC plus delayed 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: an increase in production, and tensions in the Middle East 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: continue to weigh on markets. Brent crude rose by as 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: much as two percent as the Group of oil producing 58 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: countries agreed to hold supplies steady in December. They pushed 59 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: back a planned increase of one hundred and eighty thousand 60 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: barrels to January. It comes as Iran stepped up its 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: rhetoric against Israel and the Wall Street journal reported an 62 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Iranian attack would come after tomorrow's US presidential election, but 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: before January's inauguration. 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: In the UK, Chancellor Rachel Reeves says she was wrong 65 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: to tell British voters there would be no new tax increases. 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: Reeves's comments during the election campaign have come under greater 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: scrutiny since last week's budget, where she said out forty 68 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: billion pounds of new levies. The Chancellor it was asked 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: by journalists why people should trust her. 70 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 5: I was wrong. On the eleventh of June when I 71 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 5: arrived at the Treasury, I was taken into a room 72 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: by the senior officials at the Treasury and they've set 73 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 5: out the huge black hole in the public finances beyond 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 5: which anybody knew about Ragiae Reeves. 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: They're defending her budget, which sparked a two day sell 76 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: off in the bond market. The government's tax and spending 77 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: plans have come under fire from Britain's richest man, James Dyson. 78 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: He wrote in The Times newspaper that the very fabric 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: of our economy is being ripped apart. Dyson's been in 80 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: aut spoken voice on UK policy for many years. He 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: backed bragsists and subsequently moved his company's headquarters to Singapore. 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: Kenmy bade knockers One the leadership of Britain's Conservative Party, 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: the first black woman to hold the role. Bade Not 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: one with fifty seven percent of valid votes. She says, 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: it's time for change. 86 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 5: Our party is critical to the success of our country. 87 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 5: But to be heard, we have to be honest. Honest 88 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 5: about the fact that we made mistakes, honest about the 89 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 5: fact that we let standards slip. The time has come 90 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 5: to tell the truth. 91 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: Bade Not takes over a party reeling from its worst 92 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: election defeat in modern history. After fourteen years in power, 93 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: the Conservatives have only one hundred and twenty one seats 94 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: in the UK Parliament, down from three hundred and sixty 95 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: five five years ago. 96 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: Just some breaking news this eur Ryanair has cut its 97 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: passenger growth target for the coming year because of delivery 98 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: delays from its aircraft supplier Boeing. Europe's largest budget carrier 99 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: now expects two hundred and ten million passenger passengers in 100 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: the fiscal year twenty twenty six, down from a previous 101 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: goal of two hundred and fifteen million. Rhyanires among airlines 102 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: waiting for planes from Boeing, which is facing production quality 103 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: issues as well as a worker's strike. 104 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: The Spanish Prime Minister had to be rushed away from 105 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: an angry mob surrounding him whilst visiting a flood affected area. 106 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: Pedro Sanchez and Spain's King Felipe faced crowds chanting, murderer 107 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: and throwing objects in the city of Paiporta. The country's 108 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: leader admits that more needs to be done. 109 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 6: I'm aware that the response that is being given is 110 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 6: not enough. I know, I know that we have to 111 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 6: do better and that we have to give our all. 112 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 6: But I also know that we have to do it together. 113 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez, speaking there via a translator. 114 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Flash floods have killed at least two hundred and eleven 115 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: people in Spain, and criticism is mounting about the government's 116 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: handling of the crisis. 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: Those are your top stories on the markets Fridays, our 118 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: late stage rebound on stocks on Wall Street, the S 119 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: and P five hundred closed op zero point four percent, 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: the NASDAK added zero point seven percent, and treasury tenure 121 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: yields rows by ten basis points today. In Asia, though 122 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: the dollar has weakened, the Bloomberg dollar Spot index is 123 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: six tenths week Er Treasury futures have rebunded in price 124 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: yields sinc. They look poised to raise Friday's lasses as 125 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: we look at bitcoin as well. Weaker this morning three 126 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: tenths of one percent. 127 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 1: Now, in a moment, we'll bring you more on the 128 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: final countdown in the US election campaign, plus the next 129 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: big thing from the drugs company Nova Nordisk. But first, 130 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: something from Bloomberg's new weekend edition that we've been reading 131 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: about running marathons can make you a better person. This 132 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: made all of us wonder a little bit. It was 133 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: an amazing insight though, into the life of a long 134 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: distance runner. This is Sabrina Little. She's a philosophy professor 135 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: at Christopher Newton University in the US. She is also 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: a five time US national champion ultra runner. 137 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: I would say, don't let that put you up because 138 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: my problem I read. I had to read this twice 139 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: because the first time I read it has just sort 140 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: of annoyed me. It made me feel bad about myself 141 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: because I kind of, you know, everything, everything in moderation 142 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: that I philosophy that I try to live my life 143 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: by does not apply to the argument that Sabine Little 144 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: is making in this piece. But I mean, I think 145 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: the interesting parts that I took away from were, first 146 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: of all, the idea of particularly long distance running being 147 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: very good for helping control your emotions. And yeah, she 148 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: points out this idea that you know, if you let 149 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: yourself get overwhelmed while doing something like this, your runners 150 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: ruined essentially, So I found that quite interesting. But also 151 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: the idea of you know, get kind of understanding that 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: your emotions can be wrung, and that's perhaps runs countercultural. 153 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: To well that seems Yes, I thought that was a 154 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: very interesting point. And obviously, you know, she talks about, 155 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: i mean really the whole of her life actually being 156 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: a runner, which I thought was fascinating, how she received 157 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: an education on the hill that she ran up and 158 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: down countless times when she was a graduate school and 159 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: that it really shaped her character, and how she trained 160 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: other young runners at a local school, and you know, 161 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: discussing all of this, and she sort of refers to 162 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: to basically the philosophy of life, how to live a 163 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: good life, and you don't have. 164 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: To be a long distance runner to do it. It's 165 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: the key part. Or be a kind of love philosopher 166 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: either any right, well worth your time if you do 167 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: get a time to read it. Let's bring you more 168 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: down now though in our top story, and this of 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: course the final hours of campaigning in the US presidential race, 170 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: flurry of polls on Sunday showing a close race, with 171 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: Harris having a slight edge nationally and in some swinging states. 172 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: We've got our senior editor Bill Harris with us for 173 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: more on this. Bill talk us through what the polls 174 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: show looks like a photo finish. 175 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 7: Yeah, it still does, absolutely, but very interesting polls coming 176 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 7: in over the weekend, and it's hard to know at 177 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 7: this point how much you can really read into any 178 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 7: single poll. But what we have seen so far from 179 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 7: the New York Times Siena is Kamala Harris up slightly 180 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 7: in states like Nevada, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Georgia. Her 181 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 7: and Trump tied essentially in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Trump ahead 182 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 7: in Arizona by four points. But by and large, all 183 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 7: of these gaps are still within the margin of error. 184 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 7: And I think, as you mentioned a little earlier in 185 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 7: your on your broadcast, that is probably playing into the 186 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 7: market's reaction in terms of where this selection may be headed. 187 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, every investor is looking for an edge. Trump trades 188 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: are being wound back a little bit. Have markets flipped 189 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: to thinking there may be more of a possibility for Harris. 190 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 7: I don't think we're seeing a flip at this point, 191 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 7: but we are seeing let's let's just call it a 192 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 7: little more caution about how tight this is and where 193 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 7: it might go. I think a week or two weeks ago, 194 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 7: there was a feeling that Trump had been on a 195 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 7: little bit of a roll. I think that shifted against 196 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 7: him in recent days, and these poll results over the 197 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 7: weekend are adding to that. I mean, you've mentioned there's 198 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 7: been a little bit of a rally in treasuries. A 199 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 7: bitcoin is now under seventy thousand. It was up well 200 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 7: over that last week, so you know, the bitcoin is 201 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 7: also part of that Trump trade. So I think there's 202 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 7: a little bit more caution as we head into the 203 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 7: basically the final you know, what is it, twenty four 204 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 7: to thirty six hours before people go in for election day. 205 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: How are the candidates playing it in these crucial final hours? 206 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, you know, they're basically only going 207 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 7: to be in the critical swing states that we've been 208 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 7: talking about For months now, we saw Kamala Harris doing 209 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 7: rallies and visiting small businesses across Michigan, targeting Black voters 210 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 7: in particular, but also trying to make sure she keeps 211 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 7: a grip on Arab American and Muslim voters, who are 212 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 7: a particularly important block in Michigan. Both sides pitching their 213 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 7: economic plans. You saw Trump basically hitting Pennsylvania and North 214 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 7: Carolina in the final final day here or so what 215 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 7: their pitch is economically is a little different depending on 216 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 7: the candidate. Of course, Harris is talking about her tax 217 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 7: breaks for small businesses and benefits for new first time homeowners, 218 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 7: and Trump is out there talking a lot about He's 219 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 7: talking about his tariffs, and he's talking about immigration in 220 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 7: the sense that he has repeated this message that he 221 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 7: says immigrants are taking jobs from Black Americans and Hispanic Americans. 222 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 7: So we're just about, you know, less than two days 223 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 7: now from finding out whose arguments on the economy the 224 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 7: top issue for voters will really win the day. 225 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Will thank you so much for being with us. Springberg's 226 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: Bill Ferries now Nova Nordisk, the company behind the so 227 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: called a miracle weight loss Drugger Zempi says that its 228 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: new product will be even more effective. But if the 229 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: new OBC drug does everything, the company says, it will 230 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: never may still struggle to actually deliver enough to meet 231 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: patient demands. Joining us now from Berlin is our pharmaceutical 232 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: correspondent Nami Kresky on this story. Neami, good morning, next 233 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: generation medicine. It's so important to Novid Nordisk. 234 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: Why, Yeah, this is really a story about competition. I mean, 235 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: Novau obviously has a very successful Lost medicine and Wigov, 236 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: but there are a lot of competitors hot on its heels. 237 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: They're in studies. So far an Eli Lilly drug has 238 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: not comparative studies, but in sort of side by side studies, 239 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: the Lily drug appears to have even more weight loss 240 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: than with Goov, and so Novau is trying to get 241 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: ahead of the game with something that can help people 242 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: lose even more weight, and we're expecting to see these 243 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: clinical trial results coming by the end of this year. 244 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: How effective is the company said that this drug, kagri Samma, 245 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: can be. 246 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: Nova has said repeatedly that they expect more than twenty 247 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: five percent weight loss from caagri Samma, and so This 248 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: is really the hurdle that our investors are expecting this 249 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: medicine to clear. 250 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: And when will we find out whether it works. 251 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: So they are predicting that the first really big clinical 252 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: trial this medicine will come by the end of the year, 253 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: most likely in December, so we could be seeing it 254 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: closer to the end of the year. There are additional 255 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: studies that are being done as well, and Novo's earnings 256 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: are coming up actually this week on the sixth, so 257 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: investors will be looking also for a little bit of 258 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: language and positioning I think from the company at that time. 259 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: What sort of concerns are there among investors about this 260 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: development and this move towards this new medicine. 261 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: I think the issue is really whether they're able to 262 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: clear the bar that they've set for themselves. They have 263 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: been extremely positive about caigrisena in the past, and they've 264 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: repeatedly said that it'll help patients lose at least twenty 265 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: five percent of their body weight. That would make it 266 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: the most effective treatment. 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