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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We have got a loaded show for all

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Speaker 1: of you. Carrie Lake running for the Senate from Arizona.

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Speaker 1: You may have heard about the recording controversy in the

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Speaker 1: how things are looking in Arizona as we sit about

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Speaker 1: able to see Kerrie Lake. There is now video accompaniment

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Speaker 1: And we start with what is going on at the

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Speaker 1: border down in Texas. Of all of the issues in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four that confront Joe Biden, crime, inflation, the economy,

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Speaker 1: the war in the Middle East, the war in Europe,

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Speaker 1: nothing is as much of a problem for Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: right now as the continue influx of illegal immigrants across

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Speaker 1: our southern border, and the Supreme Court has gotten involved,

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Speaker 1: the courts in general have gotten involved. The Fifth Circuit,

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Speaker 1: which is the circuit court before the Supreme Court, has

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Speaker 1: been considering a question of whether or not Texas can

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Speaker 1: put up barbed wire razor wire to try to dissuade

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Speaker 1: people from crossing the Rio Grand River coming into Texas

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Speaker 1: and arguing that they deserve asylum in this country. And Buck,

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Speaker 1: you've been down to the border before, you know how

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Speaker 1: this process works. Many of you out there listening to

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Speaker 1: us have been paying attention to this story for a

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Speaker 1: long time. This is what really got Donald Trump elected

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, was his recognition of how the southern

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Speaker 1: border had become effectively a sieve. And I want to

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Speaker 1: read from a letter that Greg Abbott put out yesterday

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Speaker 1: which echoed like wildfire, just spread like crazy through social media.

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Speaker 1: And this is the last two paragraphs of that letter

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Speaker 1: that I thought were the most cogent and compelling. We

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Speaker 1: whether they can try to restrict the illegal immigrants entering

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Speaker 1: in the state of Texas or not with the power

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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden under immigration policy. And here's what here's

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Speaker 1: what Greg Abbott, Governor of Texas wrote. James Madison, Alexander Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: and other visionaries who wrote the US Constitution foresaw states

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Speaker 1: president who does nothing to stop external streats, threats like

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Speaker 1: Cartel's smuggling millions of illegal immigrants across the border. That's

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Speaker 1: why the framers included clauses that says each state shall

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Speaker 1: supersedes any federal statutes. The Texas National Guard, the Texas

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Speaker 1: Department of Public Safety, and other Texas personnel are acting

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Speaker 1: on that authority as well as state law to secure

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Speaker 1: the Texas border. Buck. This is a major inflection point,

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Speaker 1: not only politically, but also morally as it pertains to

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Speaker 1: have a country. It's just a question of what the

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Speaker 1: This is what is happening when you have on track

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Speaker 1: The order says that it really just removes the right

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Speaker 1: That's what this does. Texas is like, all right, we're

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Speaker 1: Let's remind the country of it. Let's have federal resources

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Speaker 1: Let's have the Biden DHS removing barriers to a legal entry,

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Speaker 1: to the point. I think you're right, it is critical.

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Speaker 1: But it also puts Biden between a rock and a

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Speaker 1: clear that they want the southern border to be wide open.

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Speaker 1: And only about seventeen fifteen percent somewhere in that neighborhood

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Speaker 1: the chaos at the southern border. Remember we started talking

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Speaker 1: We kind of joked about this before. Bill Malugin is

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Speaker 1: I mean he's down there with his perfect hair, you know,

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Speaker 1: isn't you know the natural beauty of Texas? It isn't

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Speaker 1: you know all the hard work that everybody puts in

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Speaker 1: on border patrol. He said, it's that Bill Malugin can

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Speaker 1: funny when he was getting up talking about that. Bill

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Speaker 1: Malugin and I have something in common.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you guys are both indestructible. You could. You

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Speaker 1: don't even need helmets. And so what's wild about this

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Speaker 1: from invasion. I don't even know what they do, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the issue is. Here's the issue

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Speaker 1: is open borders. That's what's happened. You know, it used

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Speaker 1: And the Supreme Court, to the point that you've been

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Speaker 1: By the way, Greg Abbot started these migrant buses going

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Speaker 3: If the Constitution was originally understood to mean that a

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Speaker 1: not a suicide pact for our sovereignty. You can't allow

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Speaker 1: the dissolution of the United States. If the federal government

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Speaker 1: is going to completely abandon its role in controlling our borders.

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Speaker 1: The federal government is losing the right to claim that

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Speaker 1: it's actually enforcing the rule of law, period. And we've

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Speaker 1: reached the point now where it is inescapably obvious what

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Speaker 1: is going on here that this is a de facto

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Speaker 1: policy of the Biden administration. We have plenty of numbers.

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Speaker 1: It used to be just to be Clearclay people would say,

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Speaker 1: let it play out. Let's see how many of them

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Speaker 1: actually get asylum. Let's see how many of them show

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Speaker 1: up at their hearings. Now we know the answer is

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Speaker 1: almost none. The whole thing is a scam. The whole

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Speaker 1: thing was a lie. But as is so often the case,

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Speaker 1: what the left is doing here at the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 1: representing the ideological left, they're exploiting the good will and

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Speaker 1: good faith of the American people. We're a nation of immigrants.

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Speaker 1: We should take in some asylum seekers to ram through

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Speaker 1: a policy that they could never get through actual representative government,

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Speaker 1: that they could never actually get in this republic if

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Speaker 1: they were being honest about it. So they do it

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Speaker 1: by stealth. The whole thing is a disgrace. And a

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Speaker 1: couple of things. One on your asylum claim front, they're

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Speaker 1: now giving people court cases in the twenty thirties. I

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Speaker 1: want you to think about how crazy that is. How

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Speaker 1: many of you sitting right now could plan what your

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Speaker 1: life is going to look like for sure in twenty

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Speaker 1: thirty one or twenty thirty two, to say nothing of

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Speaker 1: how you might have new kids, grandkids, new jobs, you

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Speaker 1: might live in a different state. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: wild second part of this, and I think it's very important.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has the constitutional authority to send as many

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Speaker 1: troops to the southern border as he wanted to to

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Speaker 1: end this situation with illegal immigration. He has the constitutional authority.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the takeaways that I think is

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Speaker 1: significant of what the Supreme Court. I think based on

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Speaker 1: the way they handled this Fifth Circuit decision. And Abbot

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Speaker 1: but the indications of the way they have ruled suggests

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Speaker 1: southern border and immigration law in general. That's why who

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Speaker 1: the president is so important. But Biden here is trying

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Speaker 1: to effectively open the border. If he wanted to send

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand National Guard troops to the southern border

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Speaker 1: to restrict all entry at major ports of call, he

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Speaker 1: could do that. He has the federal authority to do it.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't need Congress to pass some law to do that.

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Speaker 1: And it's worth remembering that the same people who act

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Speaker 1: like they are powerless to do anything about the millions

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Speaker 1: of people. First of all, they are breaking the law.

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Speaker 1: They're important everybody remembers that. I don't just mean by

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Speaker 1: staying here. When they enter the country, they have violated

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Speaker 1: US law. There's clear grounds for just saying if the

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Speaker 1: Executive branch said you came in illegally, you're out. They

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Speaker 1: could do it. But instead they say no, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: let you claim defensive asylum. Clay. All they have to do,

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Speaker 1: it's a matter of bureaucratic interpretation is say, look, we

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Speaker 1: don't think you passed a credible fear test. The Biden

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Speaker 1: White House could say, all these people, unless they have

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Speaker 1: documentary Haiti Handy, no more passing the initial stage of

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Speaker 1: the credible fear test, You're gone. You're being deported, You're

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Speaker 1: being sent back. You know, we're not locking people up

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Speaker 1: for twenty years, we're not separating families. You're going back

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Speaker 1: to the country that you're from. Okay, that's what needs

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Speaker 1: to happen, or else we have an open borders country,

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Speaker 1: which is what we have right now. So people are

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Speaker 1: seeing this, I think for the first time, and look

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Speaker 1: the Bussington, New York, because you have Democrats who are

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Speaker 1: crying about it. Now, that's the thing, you know, Democrats

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Speaker 1: are saying they can't handle the pen of the pain.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back and we'll talk more about this. Wall's

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Speaker 1: to take some of your calls. Eight hundred two eight

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Speaker 1: two to eight A two oh, And I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say that was the people that Clay took all the

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Speaker 1: power in their hands under it's a COVID emergency. We

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Speaker 1: have to mask you up in four shots in your

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Speaker 1: arm and oh my gosh, because you know there's a

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Speaker 1: virus in the air that's just gonna make its way

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Speaker 1: through everybody, infect everybody, and you know that's what ended

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Speaker 1: up happening. They can't do anything about the border. They

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Speaker 1: can'tigure out anything at the border. Really no emergency status

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Speaker 1: at the border. For the President could send one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand troops to the southern border if you I wanted to,

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Speaker 1: without any congressional authority. You can also just tell Immigration

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Speaker 1: and Customs enforcement to start deporting anyone who interests I legally,

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Speaker 1: or put a lot of razor wire up, put a

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Speaker 1: lot of razor wire up, build a wall. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of things that could probably get done here.

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Speaker 1: All right, Look, I'm getting pretty good. I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be patting myself on the back

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Speaker 1: of much year, but my picks. I've made some great

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Speaker 1: picks here and the money is starting to flow. My

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Speaker 1: friend Klay Travis gives me great tips when I use

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Speaker 1: prize picks for all football related things. But the Australian

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Speaker 1: Open is going on right now, mister Clay, and you

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Speaker 1: know a lot about tennis. Sure, tennis. I know tennis.

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Speaker 1: I don't talk about it much on the show because

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Speaker 1: I think about five percent of you listening care about tennis.

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Speaker 1: Maybe less, But you know, I got Novak Djokovic against Cinner.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking less than forty games are going to be played.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Medvedev more than forty two games because he got

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Speaker 1: two Russians who hate each other who are going to

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Speaker 1: be slugging it out on that tennis court, Medvedev versus Zverev.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying prize picks. I'm into it, friends.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. It's really easy once you

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Speaker 1: get going. I mean, you get to the great thing

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Speaker 1: is not only you picking whether someone's going to be

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Speaker 1: the sport. So I asked, Clay, I talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I said, wait, hold on a second. There's tennis, right, yes,

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Speaker 1: there is tennis, basketball, football, all the sports you can

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Speaker 1: think of that are big. You can have your picks now, Clay.

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Speaker 1: You're giving us your picks tomorrow, right, Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: jump to the NFC in the AFC Championship game. I

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Speaker 1: will give you those tomorrow. And I hate to admit it,

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Speaker 1: but he's pretty good at this, so he's probably going

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Speaker 1: to give you some great picks. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you should follow my Novak and Medvedev picks here, but

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Speaker 1: it'll be fun. I promise you that much. You can

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Speaker 1: so even if one of your players goes down, it's

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Speaker 1: on his. It's a lot of fun and it'll make

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the really the biggest story in the

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Speaker 1: country right now has certainly taken center stage after New

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Speaker 1: Hampshire earlier in the week. We'll talk more about where

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Speaker 1: that is and the latest about all things Nicky Haley.

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Speaker 1: My friend mister Clay Travis got a little bit of

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Speaker 1: attention on social media yesterday for his It's at Haley's

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Speaker 1: VP take. Can I tell you I'm having old friends

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Speaker 1: since childhood like text or DM me being like, you

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Speaker 1: got to tell Clay that this can't happen. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm neither in charge of what Clay says

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Speaker 1: nor in charge of what Trump you'll do. I want

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Speaker 1: to win. I want to win, and I think she

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Speaker 1: would help win. But I do think it's funny when

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Speaker 1: people think that I'll like got to be able to

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Speaker 1: convince you. I'm like, no, no, no, you don't understand Clay.

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Speaker 1: When Clay is dug in, I can't do a thing

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Speaker 1: about it. We'll take some of your calls well eight

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Speaker 1: hundred two two two eight a two on those lines

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Speaker 1: quick vip here email via vip email, which you should

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Speaker 1: go to Clayandbuck dot com for that. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you can also stream three hours of the show at

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Speaker 1: clayanbuck dot com, which is a lot of fun. You

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Speaker 1: can see Clay and I. We have quite a collection

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Speaker 1: of T shirts. I mean the finest, the finest T

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Speaker 1: shirt apparel. No, but honestly, it's it's fun because it's

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Speaker 1: like you're all hanging out with us. So this is

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Speaker 1: from Diana and Bill gentlemen. Back in June twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court struck down Biden's student loan forgiveness. He's going

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Speaker 1: through the Department of Education and get rid of some

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Speaker 1: of the debt. What's the difference that Texas attempts to

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Speaker 1: do here to protect its border versus Biden paying student

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Speaker 1: loan debt No from Diana Bill Clay, I think there's

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Speaker 1: a various dude observation, And again I don't want to

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Speaker 1: keep being that guy who like, but look what I

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Speaker 1: told you. Obama lost eleven of thirteen times at the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court when it came to executive action. He overreached constantly.

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Speaker 1: Now there were some people who said, see he's losing. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he would do things. His administration would do things

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Speaker 1: that would go into effect for months that sometimes would

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Speaker 1: leave the groundwork for other things, and then it would

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Speaker 1: only eventually get overturned in the courts. It would have

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Speaker 1: gives him an opinion that he wants. Yeah, which is

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Speaker 1: why yesterday I said, behind the scenes here, what I

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Speaker 1: think on some level this may be a clue that

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Speaker 1: they are going to be very beneficial to Trump in

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Speaker 1: some of the rulings that are to come, and they

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Speaker 1: don't want to also look like they're throwing the book

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Speaker 1: at Biden on the border. But again, Biden doesn't need

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Speaker 1: Congress to act for him to secure the southern border.

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Speaker 1: He has the ability to do that under his existing

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Speaker 1: presidential powers. So what he's trying to do by getting

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Speaker 1: Republicans in Congress involved is make it look like that

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Speaker 1: Republicans have been complicit for the problem at the border,

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Speaker 1: and then he can say, look, I brought the country

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Speaker 1: together and solve this issue. Oh, by the way, in

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Speaker 1: an election year. Why didn't he solve it in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Why didn't he solve it in twenty twenty two?

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Speaker 1: When he solved it in twenty twenty three, Because he

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Speaker 1: out of the country. We're gonna talk, by the way,

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Speaker 1: with Stephen Miller tomorrow just for everybody out there who

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Speaker 1: is wondering, hey, can we get an expert on what

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Speaker 1: exactly things with how it would change with Trump in office.

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Speaker 1: The big problem is how are you going to deport

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is an honest question. Ten million people

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Speaker 1: physically is that we could address this. You have to

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Speaker 1: start by deporting a million and then see how many

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Speaker 1: of the rest self deport before they realize they're not

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Speaker 1: getting amnesty and they're not getting citizenship. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: certainly it stops the flow. But the people who are

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Speaker 1: already here, the challenge is getting them out, which I

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Speaker 1: think Democrats know