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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now

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Speaker 2: and can dive a little bit deeper into the situation

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Speaker 2: of Fannie Willis and what we're hearing now. You may

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Speaker 2: have already picked up on this, but miss Fannie Willis

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Speaker 2: has some problems with the truth. She has already shown

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Speaker 2: herself to be particularly disagreeable when challenged on some of

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Speaker 2: the factual inaccuracies on the stand of her position.

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Speaker 1: Just by way of review, this is the.

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Speaker 2: Prosecutor, the Fulton County, Georgia prosecutor, who had taken it

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Speaker 2: upon herself to bring a rico charge, usually something that

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Speaker 2: you would associate with mafiosi.

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Speaker 1: Which I believe is the plural of mafio. So Clay

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Speaker 1: I didn't actually know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping so, but yes, members of the Italian

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Speaker 2: mob or any mob for that matter. But they decided,

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Speaker 2: or she decided to apply to Trump and then she thought,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm going to hire

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Speaker 2: a guy who has never prosecuted rico case at all,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to pay him six hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: of the state's money.

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Speaker 1: But also, he's going to be.

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Speaker 2: A guy that I have had a romantic relationship with.

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Speaker 2: Now when did that relationship begin? That's central here. Did

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Speaker 2: Viz Fannie Willis receive the benefit of the usage of

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Speaker 2: state funds for the trips they went on together, including

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Speaker 2: wasn't it the day trip for lunch to Tennessee from

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Speaker 2: Atlanta that.

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Speaker 3: We heard about, which no one else is even raised

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. Buck.

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Speaker 3: My sixteen year old was down, I said, at the

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Speaker 3: University of Georgia's campus over the last weekend, and he

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Speaker 3: rode back and he had heard us talking about that,

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Speaker 3: and he couldn't stop talking about how bad the drive

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Speaker 3: is from Atlanta to Tennessee and the fact that they

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Speaker 3: went to Atlanta and Tennessee supposedly for lunch and then

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Speaker 3: just turned around and drove back, probably while billing.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 3: People say, well, why do you focus on details like that?

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Speaker 3: It's details that don't add up that prove lies. So

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Speaker 3: it's not always the super detailed aspect of a story

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Speaker 3: that is the most important that proves the lie.

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Speaker 1: It's something like that they didn't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what was going on, but the fact

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Speaker 3: that that was even alleged is clearly evidence that they

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Speaker 3: have been lying on the witness stand for some time.

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Speaker 2: And right now the final arguments are expected at any

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Speaker 2: moment in this case to disqualify Willis. Clay and I

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Speaker 2: have both come down with this, come down on this

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Speaker 2: before with our predictions.

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Speaker 1: I believe that she will be discribed. This judge has

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Speaker 1: been pretty close to the vest on it or to

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Speaker 1: the robe if you will, yes, there you go.

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Speaker 2: The judge hasn't really shown his hand. I think that

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Speaker 2: Fannie Willis is likely to be taken off the case

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Speaker 2: if for no other reason. They'll give the reason that

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Speaker 2: she is now a distraction. And this is a very

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Speaker 2: serious endeavor. And remember, if she were to get her way,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump would go to prison.

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Speaker 1: She would lock him up in a cell along with

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Speaker 1: over a dozen other people who would also be going

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Speaker 1: to prison over this. And so it's a serious business.

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Speaker 1: This is not some small stakes trial that she is

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Speaker 1: running or she is prosecuting Clay. I think she's going

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Speaker 1: to be taken off the trial.

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Speaker 2: I think she'll be there may be state bar sanctions

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Speaker 2: of some kind against her. I don't think that anyone's

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Speaker 2: going to end up charging her criminally. I just don't

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Speaker 2: see that, but I could be wrong. But whatever, what

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Speaker 2: I think agrees is that this has created you know,

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Speaker 2: there's the legal decisions that come down, and there's the

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Speaker 2: timing of them, which we talk about a lot. And

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Speaker 2: the timing here has certainly been advantageous for Trump because

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Speaker 2: a lot of momentum out of this case going forward.

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Speaker 2: And I also think that it's going to be really hard.

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Speaker 2: How do you find a jury pool that knows anything

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Speaker 2: about anything in the Atlanta area that doesn't have an

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Speaker 2: as a corrupt prosecutor bringing this case against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: You said, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: How could they even pretend like they can go forward

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Speaker 1: I think that she'll be removed.

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Speaker 3: And we haven't really dove into the text messages that

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Speaker 3: have now been entered that the judges been able to

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Speaker 3: review from Nathan Wade's law partner, but it makes it

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Speaker 3: very clear that they had a relationship of some sort

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Speaker 3: that existed before she hired him.

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Speaker 1: So any argument at.

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Speaker 3: This point that there is anything other than a longstanding relationship,

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Speaker 3: I think all of the evidence makes clear is not true.

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Speaker 3: That's why I said, if you were going to charge

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Speaker 3: her with perjury, which I think you could, and I

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Speaker 3: charged with perjury, her defense would be, well, what is

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Speaker 3: a relationship? And by the way, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: about what exactly are we in a relationship?

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Speaker 1: What is a relationship?

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Speaker 3: Well, you thought that the rules on the relationship were this,

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Speaker 3: pushing the argument that you know, we just hooked up occasionally,

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Speaker 3: and to me, the relationship began on this such and

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Speaker 3: be a defense. Improving perjury requires intent, which is why

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Speaker 3: perjury charges are hard sometimes to prove. But I think

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Speaker 3: it was reckless of her to hire her lover. It

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Speaker 3: was reckless of her to sit at the witness stand.

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Speaker 3: It was reckless of her frankly, in my opinion, to

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Speaker 3: bring these charges in the first place. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: it wasn't politically advantageous. Those things can all be true.

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Speaker 3: I think the same thing is true for Alvin Bragg,

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Speaker 3: and to me, the big story here in general, buck

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Speaker 3: is that whether it's Leticia James, Alvin Bragg, or Fanny

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Speaker 3: Willis they win in their respective jurisdictions, even if they

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Speaker 3: lose on a national level. Because Leticia James ran for

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Speaker 3: Attorney General saying I'm gonna get Trump to her constituency,

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Speaker 3: she can claim that she fulfilled that pledge. The DA

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Speaker 3: of New York doesn't matter that crime as skyrocketed, that

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Speaker 3: thievery is off the charts. He wants to get Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: and so that's his goal. I do think the Atlantic

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Speaker 3: case was interesting for two reasons in particular that are different. One,

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Speaker 3: it's in a battleground state, and I think the politically

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Speaker 3: important aspect of this case is I think Bucket that

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Speaker 3: Trump now is walking away with Georgia because I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, even people who aren't Trump people,

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Speaker 3: have seen the Shenanigans involved in this prosecution and said

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Speaker 3: this is a political hit. Job, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: worked to Trump's benefit. Second part here.

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Speaker 1: Is this is a state case.

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Speaker 3: So at the rate at which we're going in South

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Speaker 3: the election, he can toss those prosecution cases. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, I think Biden might toss him if he

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Speaker 3: won reelection, right, but he couldn't necessarily toss Atlanta. If

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Speaker 3: you remove the DA, I think basically the charges are

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Speaker 3: dead because you're gonna have to find a new DA.

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Speaker 3: It's going to take months finding somebody else who wants

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Speaker 3: to prosecute this. After potentially Trump wins in Georgia in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, I think would become increasingly difficult. The

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Speaker 3: Department of Justice has a policy in place that you

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Speaker 3: can't be prosecuted. I know this is state, not federal,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think Trump would ever face charges here.

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Speaker 3: I think Atlanta is dead, and I think a big

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Speaker 3: reason why is Fanny Willis's reckless behavior.

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Speaker 2: And so what are we left with at this point?

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Speaker 2: This is where we have to start looking at the

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Speaker 2: Trump team move to get the mar A Lago case

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Speaker 2: moved up a bit right mar A Lago. Now they're

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Speaker 2: hoping they can get so the documents mar Alago case.

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Speaker 2: Trump has asked in Florida for that to happen in August.

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Speaker 2: Now it is my belief, Clay, that the Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: will and I think you're were on board for this too.

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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court will decide that Trump immunity issue and

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Speaker 2: other issues. But the immunity issue will be decided by

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Speaker 2: sometime in June, because that would be normal, you know,

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Speaker 2: that would be normal schedule for them. And then I

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Speaker 2: think that they would try then to they would send

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Speaker 2: it back down and then Chuckkin could try to begin

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Speaker 2: her trial in DC in perhaps August. But if there's

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Speaker 2: already a trial that has been scheduled ahead of the

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Speaker 2: Chutkin trial that isn't before the Supreme Court, then I

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Speaker 2: think you would have a couple of things. One, Eileen

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Speaker 2: Cannon is more favorable to just do process for Trump,

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Speaker 2: and that means if his team wants to take the

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Speaker 2: time to adjudicate the documents and other things, then fine.

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Speaker 1: Also, what if you know meaning that you'd give them

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Speaker 2: But what if Aileen Cannon also says, hey, I know

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Speaker 2: that you requested this, but you know there's a DOJ

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Speaker 2: GUI and so we can't actually have the trial the

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Speaker 2: summer before you're going to be on the ballot for

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Speaker 2: a situation where Chutkin would have to say, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: know the other federal judge cared about dj guidelines, but

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Speaker 2: I'm a partisan lunatic and I don't.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to have the trial in August. And

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Speaker 2: So I know that's that's the strategic maneuver they've done

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Speaker 3: My prediction is that the Supreme Court is going to

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Speaker 3: knock half of the charges that Jack Smith wants to

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Speaker 3: bring out, saying that this attempt to interrupt an official

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Speaker 3: proceeding shouldn't have been a jan six related charge. I

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Speaker 3: think that's gonna that's gonna give up the ghost those charges.

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Speaker 3: I think that they will release their rulings on sometime

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Speaker 3: around July fourth week would be my bet. Try to

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Speaker 3: let it kind of simmer into July fourth. I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 3: July fourth this year is on a Thursday. It wouldn't

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Speaker 3: surprise me if the final Supreme Court opinions came out

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Speaker 3: on that Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday, as a way to

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Speaker 3: kind of bring all those to bear. Julie is optimistic

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Speaker 3: that Judge Chutkin will stick with her. Hey, I'm then

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Speaker 3: gonna give everybody several months to prepare for trial. I'm

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Speaker 3: a little bit less optimistic about that, I think, and

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Speaker 3: I said this before, this was my Merrick Garland as

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Speaker 3: there's still some good left in him as Darth Vader.

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Speaker 1: I still feel like Merrick.

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Speaker 3: Garland may end up weighing in and saying, yeah, we're

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Speaker 3: not trying cases in September.

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Speaker 2: I'm as big a Click Travis fan as anybody out there.

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Speaker 2: There's absolutely no way Merrick Garland is going to save

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump from whatever they throw out like this one.

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Speaker 2: I'd give you one hundred to one odds on this one.

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Speaker 2: I love your faith in the system. I know where

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Speaker 2: this was from, but Merrick Clay, Merrick Garland would never

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Speaker 2: be able to just put aside his politics. He wouldn't

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Speaker 2: of his life without just people cursing at him and

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Speaker 2: hitsing out.

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Speaker 3: I mean this man, I think he would he would

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Speaker 3: come out and say, and we're going to try these

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Speaker 3: cases in February of twenty twenty five in the event

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Speaker 2: Our friend Steven Miller in the mix right now. He

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Speaker 1: No doubt, that's perfect. Stephen.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Blaken Riley would still be alive if

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, she would be with her family right now, She'd

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Speaker 2: Steven Miller with US Now of America First Legal Steven.

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Speaker 2: Some of the critics of President Trump on the border,

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Speaker 4: the barrier was where barrier was before. There are high

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Speaker 4: traffic locations where there was vehicle barriers, for example, which

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Speaker 4: are just a post in the road like vehicle barrier right,

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Speaker 4: in other words, you can't drive a car through it, right.

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Speaker 4: Or there was dilapidated tinfoil lying on the ground, high traffic,

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Speaker 4: high priority areas where we put in the most effective

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Speaker 4: and powerful wall system in American history, five hundred miles

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Speaker 4: of it, which involved having to condemn land, having to

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Speaker 4: fight land owners to get control of land when they

447
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Speaker 4: wouldn't give it up, having to fight every environmental group,

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Speaker 4: every radical lefty, having to fight the ACLU, having to

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Speaker 4: fight Congress, we got up five hundred miles a wall.

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Speaker 4: By the time of twenty twenty, that thing was just

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Speaker 4: rolling along. It was humming. It was like a boulder

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Speaker 4: down hill. I mean, we were adding it at an

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Speaker 4: astonishing clip and pace. With respect to just the overall

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Speaker 4: immigration picture, keep in mind we came at Dobbinson twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Nobody knew anything about Romain in Mexico. Nobody knew anything

456
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Speaker 4: about safetty primage. Nobody knew anything about this term me

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Speaker 4: here two twelve f travel bands right. Every single thing

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Speaker 4: that Donald Trump did was unprecedented in American history, never

459
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Speaker 4: been tried, let alone done before Title forty two. If

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Speaker 4: I had told you in twenty sixteen, we were going

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Speaker 4: to develop a system legally, operationally, diplematically to have an

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Speaker 4: instant expulsion program where you have no right to apply

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Speaker 4: for asylum, no right to request relief, no right to

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Speaker 4: see an immigration judge, no right to anything, just HELDO

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Speaker 4: see you later, goodbye. If I told you that, you

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Speaker 4: would have said, that's an impossible dream. That's a fever dream, Stephen,

467
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Speaker 4: You're living in a fantasy world. That's crazy talk. That's

468
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Speaker 4: the kind of talk that belongs in an insane asile

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Speaker 4: that will never happen in the real world, and we

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Speaker 4: freaking get it, and we did it perfectly. In fact,

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Speaker 4: we did it so well that in twenty twenty, there

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Speaker 4: were zero, zero discretionary releases in the United States. You know,

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Speaker 4: there's always the case of those of medical emergency, you know,

474
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Speaker 4: somebody has to get emergency hospital care, but there was

475
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Speaker 4: zero discretionary releases. Every single person the Border Patrol or

476
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Speaker 4: CBP laid their hands on was placed into detention and removed.

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Speaker 4: That had never been achieved before, not during the Bush administration,

478
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Speaker 4: not during the Cricket administration, not during the Racan administration,

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00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: certainly not during the Bomba administration. We were talking about

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Speaker 4: things that are unheard of before in Americandustory. It used

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Speaker 4: to be my last point, as it used to be

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Speaker 4: that all border patrol would do where they would deport

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Speaker 4: single adults from Mexico. That's what they did. When they

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Speaker 4: got some exotic nationality or a family they didn't know

485
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Speaker 4: what to do with, right, they would oftentimes be released,

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Speaker 4: which is why by the time we came into office,

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Speaker 4: you saw more and more people from far away lands,

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Speaker 4: and more and more people smugg them children everything else

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Speaker 4: like that, and we fixed it all. We buttoned it up,

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Speaker 4: and we marched through hell to get it done. We

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Speaker 4: spent four years fighting every single enemy of border security

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Speaker 4: in this country, and we beat them like a drum

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Speaker 4: and we got it done. And all Joe Biden has

494
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Speaker 4: you was keep the status cloth. But of course he

495
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Speaker 4: didn't do that because the Democrat Party is committed to

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Speaker 4: the proposition of unlimitsed migration.

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Speaker 3: Stephen, you mentioned how Biden looked, let's leave aside the

498
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Speaker 3: disaster that actually exists at the border. But we started

499
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Speaker 3: off the show today talking about the fact that I

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Speaker 3: watched that video of him walking on the trail and

501
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: I felt like he needed a walker. I mean, it

502
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Speaker 3: was sad to watch. I mean, the guy he couldn't

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Speaker 3: move his arms, like everything was out of sorts with

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Speaker 3: something as simple as walking on a trail.

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Speaker 1: Is he actually gonna run?

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Speaker 3: Do? I mean, you know what it takes to be

507
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Speaker 3: involved in running the country, how much energy it takes,

508
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Speaker 3: regardless of the politics. When you see Joe Biden, do

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Speaker 3: you actually think that they're going to have him on

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Speaker 3: the ballot in November?

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Speaker 4: I fill do, although I read and I'm probably in

512
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Speaker 4: a minority.

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Speaker 3: You and Buck are like the only people by the way,

514
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Speaker 3: us incredibly wise and thoughtful people see where this is going.

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Speaker 2: So just don't let anyone tell you you're alone, because

516
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Speaker 2: you and I are at the top of this.

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Speaker 3: Mountain of wisdom. So explain why you think that is it?

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Speaker 3: Just kind of lay out your argument.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, there's just a practical fact that the

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden, clearly, as you saw from his angry press conference,

521
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: is absolutely determined personally, at a personal level, to cling

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Speaker 4: to power. I mean, watching him yell and shout at

523
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Speaker 4: Deucy and everybody else at the press conference the day

524
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Speaker 4: after her Special Counsel report came out, it's clear that

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Speaker 4: he despinitely wants to cling to power. Number one. Number

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Speaker 4: two is the vice president problem, Kamala Harris. She would

527
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Speaker 4: have to agree to bow out and not say that

528
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Speaker 4: they could actually have a primary battle between say her

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Speaker 4: and Gavin Newsom. She would have to be persuaded to

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Speaker 4: convince shown poll numbers to say you will be the

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Speaker 4: first vice president in recent history to be the heir apparent.

532
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Speaker 4: Just to voluntarily pow out, even though there's no particular

533
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Speaker 4: thing other than your unpopularity pushing you aside. So both

534
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Speaker 4: of those events would have to happen. It has to

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Speaker 4: happen by this summer. And then there's also just a

536
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Speaker 4: practical matter of with the last practical point on this

537
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Speaker 4: is that very hard to remove Biden from all these

538
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Speaker 4: state battles and everything else. So it has to be done,

539
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Speaker 4: most likely at a convention, as a very difficult thing

540
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Speaker 4: to have a situation with the Democratic Party right now,

541
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Speaker 4: with all its fishers and all of its fractions, to

542
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Speaker 4: have people just crowning a nominee with no democratic process

543
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Speaker 4: behind it, whatso effort. So I think for all those reasons,

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Speaker 4: barring a medical emergency, which is quite possible, let's be clear,

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Speaker 4: it's eminently possible, I see him staying on the ballot.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Miller's a very smart man, Clay, as we all know,

547
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Speaker 2: he's very wise, very astute, America first legal Stephen Miller's

548
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: out there doing great work. Steven, appreciate you being with us.

549
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again soon about the border and

550
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: other things. And when when Biden is clearly the nominee,

551
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Speaker 2: you and I will do a little high five on

552
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Speaker 2: the so thank you.

553
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Speaker 4: And also we need to get that next season to

554
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Speaker 4: Copra Kai going so, yeah, I was going to ask you,

555
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: do you have any I can't wait for the next season.

556
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Speaker 1: I was talking about that with my kids the other day.

557
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Speaker 3: Do you have any TV or movie recommendations anything you've seen.

558
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: I know you're a you're a pop culture guy, which

559
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: is going to stun people because they're like they think

560
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: of you as like no s faratu out there.

561
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Speaker 4: That is very true. Well, the I've actually been going

562
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: back recently and watching old episodes of Magnum p I.

563
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah was once America.

564
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Speaker 4: And so if you want to feel really great about

565
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Speaker 4: how just cool, totally awesome and amazing America is, just

566
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Speaker 4: inject the Magnum p I into your veins. Then I'll

567
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Speaker 4: give you the boost that you need.

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Speaker 2: I'm with awesome, well done, well done, Thank you, Steven.

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Speaker 2: And now we'll know if Steven shows up with a

570
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Speaker 2: Magnum p I mustache, you know, not not surprised.

571
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Speaker 1: That would actually be incredible. Actually be a good look,

572
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: be a good look.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, sports fans out there, there's an app that delivers

574
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Speaker 2: the goods. It's called Prize Picks, the easiest way to

575
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Speaker 2: play daily fantasy sports folks and on the players, not

576
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Speaker 2: the teams. The Miami Heat playing this weekend, Clay, mister

577
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, I believe very good player.

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Speaker 1: I'm going up. I'm going up on. Are you more?

579
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Speaker 1: You're gonna go more? Are you gonna go in a game? Whenever?

580
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Speaker 3: You going to sit court side with our friends at

581
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Speaker 3: Prize Picks. I'm just I'm just all I'm doing right

582
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Speaker 3: now is giving you my picks. Okay, I'm just telling

583
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Speaker 3: you we're going more for anything, Jimmy Butler related for

584
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Speaker 3: the Heat game this weekend, and I'll tell you, Uh,

585
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Speaker 3: it's so fun. It's so easy to get going with

586
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Speaker 3: your prize picks, quick withdrawals, huge selection of players, sports

587
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Speaker 3: stat types. I think yesterday, Clay, we got to call

588
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: somebody wanted to yell at you for getting a pick wrong,

589
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Speaker 3: even though you got most of them right.

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Speaker 2: So you know, you can't make all the people happy

591
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Speaker 2: all the time. It's fun though. You get to talk

592
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Speaker 2: to your friends about it, you get to make a

593
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Speaker 2: little money, You get more involved in the sports that

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Speaker 2: you're watching. Even I'm getting more and more involved these days.

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Speaker 2: It is really a good time. Prize Picks offers injury

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597
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Speaker 1: It's really easy.

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Speaker 2: Download the Prize Picks app this basketball season. Use my

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Speaker 2: name Buck as your promo code for a first deposit

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606
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Speaker 2: pick more, pick less. It's that easy, all right, Buck,

607
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Speaker 2: I got some good news for you. I don't know

608
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Speaker 2: if you have seen this yet. This news just breaking

609
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: positive news out there, reason for optimism for everyone out

610
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Speaker 2: there listening to us. The Alligator, which is the University

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Speaker 2: of Florida, I believe student newspaper just reported and this

612
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: is amazing. Just in the last twenty.

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Speaker 3: Minutes, the University of Florida has fired all staff in

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Speaker 3: positions related to diversity, equity and inclusion, effective immediately.

615
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Speaker 1: Oh, the Sunshine State. I love it.

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Speaker 3: This is Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. According to the University

617
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Speaker 3: of Florida to comply with the Florida Board of Governors regulation.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is fired.

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Speaker 3: Also, they are reallocating the five million dollars in money

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Speaker 3: that had been previously allocated for DEI into a faculty

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Speaker 3: recruitment fund handled by the Office of the Provost.

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Speaker 1: This is absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 3: I just wish we had video of all the depeople

624
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Speaker 3: Buck being forced to vacate their offices at the University

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Speaker 3: of Florida. I don't know why every red state in

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Speaker 3: America would not copy what Florida just did. Dare I say, Buck,

627
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Speaker 3: Even the University of Tennessee fan go Gators. I know

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Speaker 3: your wife is a uf grat if I remember Craft, Yes.

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Speaker 1: She's a Gator.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why Tennessee hasn't already hasn't already done this.

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Speaker 2: You need to speak to Governor Lee and find out

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Speaker 2: what the hold up is. Because remember these DEI positions,

633
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Speaker 2: they're they're not It's not just that they're worthless.

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Speaker 1: They are worse than worthless.

635
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Speaker 2: Because they're damaging, because they they indoctrinate young people with

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00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: really bad, destructive ideas. They effectively exacerbate racial tension and

637
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: other you know, identity group issues on campus, and they

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Speaker 2: take action against people who don't want to go along

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00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: with this nonsense. So I mean I I have no

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Speaker 2: sympathy for DEI programs at a place like the University

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Speaker 2: of Florida. Getting rid of it is the right move.

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Speaker 2: It's a total waste. It's worse than a waste. Texas, Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: other states got a step up, Clay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're a red state and you're a red

645
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Speaker 3: state AG, and you're a red state governor, every state

646
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Speaker 3: has different rules and regulations as it pertains to the

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Speaker 3: flagship universities in those states. But it's possible some of

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Speaker 3: these have already done it. I'm obviously not an expert

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00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: on every bit of employment at any of these schools,

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Speaker 3: whether it's the University of Texas or the University of Tennessee.

651
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Speaker 3: But if you've got a red state governor and you

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Speaker 3: got any AG's worth their salt, what Florida just did.

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Speaker 3: I want these guys walking out with all of their

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Speaker 3: belongings finding real jobs immediately,