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Speaker 1: What's up, friends, and welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Baseball Podcast, and this is the Ultimate First

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Speaker 1: Base Guide. I'm Chris Welsh joined by Joe Rico. We

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Speaker 1: are in our rank series. We're in our rank era,

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Speaker 1: if you will, Joe, where we are going to be

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Speaker 1: going through sleepers, bust, must have, and of course we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be looking at ECR the expert consensus ranks across

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Speaker 1: the land. You can check out over in Fantasy Pros

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Speaker 1: where we've got ADP sprawled out and averaged by all

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Speaker 1: the different websites. And we got the same thing with

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Speaker 1: the Expert Consensus Ranks, where me Arico and a bunch

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Speaker 1: of others are creating one big conglomerate of ranks. You

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Speaker 1: can check that out. We'll be citing that here, mister

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Speaker 1: Joe Rico. I sound a little horse. I think a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm just returning from New Orleans with my

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros people. Shout out to all the people that

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Speaker 1: were hitting us up there, so hopefully I'll be able

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Speaker 1: to get through this. In what is I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's your take on first base? Do you feel it's adequate,

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Speaker 1: it's deep, it's shallows something you want to hit early,

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Speaker 1: very top heavy. What is your thirty second thesis on

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Speaker 1: first base this year?

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Speaker 2: I think it's in a really good spot and I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, seeing some players have eligibility there that we

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Speaker 2: haven't in the past. Raphael Devers, you know, Tyler Soderstrom

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Speaker 2: is a guy who's entered the player pool that I

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Speaker 2: really like, Wilson Contrez moving over from catcher.

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Speaker 3: The pool does feel relatively deep, and.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about how I want to go about

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Speaker 2: approaching it in general when my you know, my big

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Speaker 2: I don't think first base is a position where you

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Speaker 2: need to have a set plan as much as you

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Speaker 2: up so quickly. I need to get one before I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of toast with first base. I think there

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Speaker 2: are guys all over the board that I'd be very

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Speaker 2: go with a Vladie, A Kurtz and Alonso totally good there.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys that were used to seeing

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Speaker 2: a little bit earlier that have fall into the middle rounds.

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Speaker 2: The Harpers the Olsen's, the Devers, there's Freddie Freeman, there's

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Speaker 2: Vinnie P. Soderstrom. Like I mentioned, you got the Yandy

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Speaker 2: Diaz later on. If you're looking for batting average, there's

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Speaker 2: guys later even farther than that. If you're looking for

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Speaker 2: some upside, like a Sal Stewart, a Jonathan Aranda. The

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Speaker 2: position feels very good to me, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: you need to say if I don't have a first

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Speaker 3: I think you can.

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Speaker 2: You can kind of look and shop in various tiers

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Speaker 2: of first base and still be very happy with I'd

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Speaker 2: say fifteen or sixteen names at least that I'd be

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Speaker 2: comfortable starting the season with as my starting first baseman.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm quite that comfortable with the starting

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Speaker 1: first basemen. But if we were doing the like you know, Goldilocks,

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Speaker 1: think it's just right. I think there's like twelve really

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Speaker 1: it maybe goes a couple deeper. Do you really want

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Speaker 1: the fifteenth or sixteenth guy? Maybe not. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to call it a super deep position because in my eyes,

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Speaker 1: position in a fifteen team roto. If you're the last one,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But when we end up talking about

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Speaker 1: third base, you're gonna understand why, Like first base is

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Speaker 1: both going to be giving you our sleeper, our bus,

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Speaker 1: and our must have at the position. Now, before we

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Speaker 1: get into it, just a reminder, go and make sure

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Speaker 1: you've downloaded Fantasy Pros or you can just go to

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Speaker 1: the website. You can draft, you can get into the ranks,

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Speaker 1: you can check all the projections, you can see all

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Speaker 1: of the different articles we've got. We've got tons of

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Speaker 1: stuff to get you prepped for the fantasy baseball season.

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Speaker 1: And make sure you're subscribe to the podcast, whether it's

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Speaker 1: audio or video. Let's jump in to first Base. The

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Speaker 1: Ultimate First Base begins with our top twelve ECR ranks.

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Speaker 1: We look at the big board. Nick Kurtz current has

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Speaker 1: Nick Kurtz and vlad So it goes Kurtz, Vladi Guerrero,

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Speaker 1: at the position. Lightly always saying position eligibility can change.

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Speaker 1: This should what we're giving you here should probably work

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Speaker 1: for any website. But you understand when we do any

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Speaker 1: of these ranks here, Fantasy Pro's position eligibility, like we

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Speaker 1: connect to Yahoo. Yahoo is very liberal with their position eligibility.

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Speaker 1: It's like if you played two games, breathed on one,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody in this that has that

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Speaker 1: Now we've picked a couple players that we want to

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Speaker 1: hit I think is the big debate positionally this year,

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Speaker 1: because both of these guys range from wheelish first round

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Speaker 1: It's high batting average last year, the power was down.

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Speaker 1: We kind of know what he can do versus the

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Speaker 1: immense potential upside of Nick Kurtz. In four hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty at bats last year, Nick Kurtz had thirty six homers,

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Speaker 1: unreal hit two ninety unreal six hundred slug and a

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Speaker 1: It's Christmas time there. But the caveat to it is,

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Speaker 1: in general. What side are you on, Joe Rico? Are

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Speaker 3: I don't like the price with Nick Kurtz.

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Speaker 2: But he's going sometimes in the first round of drafts,

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Speaker 2: Nick Kurtz. But for me, I think the debate really

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Speaker 2: ranked above Knick Kurtz. That might be controversial for some people,

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Speaker 2: but like clockwork, every year, Pete Alonzo is giving you

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Speaker 2: Vlattie first. I'd have Alonzo second, and then Kurts third. Vladdie,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to factor in the playoff success

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Speaker 3: And you know you're you're an Arizona Diamondback fan.

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Speaker 2: Gabrielle Moreno had that playoffs a couple years ago where

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Speaker 2: And there's a chance of Vlattie, even though he hit

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Speaker 2: He gives you the batting average. I think the floor

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Speaker 2: Vladdie is one of the most durable players in all

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Speaker 2: be Alonzo, and then Kurt's pretty close together, but I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the new ballpark is interesting. It is

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Speaker 1: if I'm looking at NFBC just basic NFBC ADP twenty five,

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Speaker 1: Kurtz in a twelve team, he might be able to

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Speaker 1: going back to And I'm actually not really against what

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Speaker 1: do have my concerns about Nick Kurtz this year. I

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Speaker 1: think he's an immensely awesome talent, but a thirty one

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Speaker 1: Now he hits two seventy and is twenty eight percent

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Speaker 1: He does come in at number one because he kind

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Speaker 1: of breathes the biggest upside of any of these players.

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Speaker 1: We got to remember they're still hitting in that little

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Speaker 1: baby minor league ballpark. So Nick Kurtz is going to get,

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Speaker 1: It can be for good or for bad, however we

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Speaker 1: want to talk about it. Joe, I'm going to let

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Speaker 1: you start in the top twelve. What first baseman do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a guy that at first in my early

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Speaker 2: It's Matt Olsen. But another guy like Vladdie who plays

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Speaker 2: every single day. In the last four seasons, it's one

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Speaker 1: I think he's an incredible bat and I think he's

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Speaker 3: And say, maybe he's not doing that. But if he's

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Speaker 2: Thirty plus homers while hitting two fifty or so in

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Speaker 2: As a left handed hitter, you know, nobody's hit thirty

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Speaker 2: He would not have fallen past me. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And you know, just outside of the

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Speaker 2: It feels like the theme at first base this year

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Speaker 1: So you could look at that and go, Okay, where's

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Speaker 1: the advantage. Well, it's the Dodgers batting average. It's huge

431
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Speaker 1: batting average. It's really great RBI and run numbers that

432
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Speaker 1: are paired with I would call it like serviceable home runs.

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Speaker 1: So if I had to pay the same cost on

434
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Speaker 1: him as like Pete Alonso or Matt Olson. Like in

435
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 1: previous years, it's bus city, but that's not the case.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, it's the ninth first baseman here. ATC

437
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Speaker 1: projections have Freeman from a war perspective as the third

438
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Speaker 1: overall first baseman. But statistically two seventy eighty four runs,

439
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Speaker 1: eighty five homers, twenty two homers in eight stolen bases,

440
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: is that worth fifty I think you could make an

441
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Speaker 1: argument that it's like borderlining. Maybe not, so he's not

442
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 1: a target of mine, but he's also not a bus

443
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Speaker 1: because I think the team context is great. It's not

444
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Speaker 1: any heavy declines. It's just like it's kind of slower stuff.

445
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Speaker 1: But then at the same time, the guy had a

446
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Speaker 1: you know, double digit barrel and his hard hit rate

447
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: was the best it's been in the last four years.

448
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 1: You know, he's still grasping on I think he's a

449
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 1: little fringy. He's not my target, but I definitely understand

450
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Speaker 1: why someone would be targeting him. The guy that I have,

451
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are going to like,

452
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Speaker 1: but like Freddie Freeman, he's not going super high, and

453
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Speaker 1: I believe he is technically on ECR and Fantasy pros.

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Speaker 1: Vinnie is the ninth. Vinnie pass Quentino is the ninth

455
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Speaker 1: first baseman. Freddy Freeman is seven, by the way, but

456
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Speaker 1: Vinni pas Quentino is my pick here as a player

457
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Speaker 1: that I'm going to be targeting. Knowing that I'm not

458
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: taking the top guys, maybe I miss on Devers. Well,

459
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Speaker 1: guess what I think a Devers light is Vinnie pass Quentino,

460
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: who last year hit thirty two homers, hit two sixty four,

461
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Speaker 1: not a stolen base threat, obviously doesn't have an immensely

462
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Speaker 1: insane profile, but is well above average, kind of just

463
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Speaker 1: across the board. He hit two sixty four, his XBA

464
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Speaker 1: two fifty nine supports it, good barrel, decent hard hit numbers,

465
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Speaker 1: doesn't with and strikeout, so he's always going to run

466
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Speaker 1: higher batting average, which is great, especially if you're in

467
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Speaker 1: like a points format, but also kind of an extra

468
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Speaker 1: advantage in those rodo formats too. Because I've been saying

469
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Speaker 1: this for a while, I feel like we are getting

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Speaker 1: away from batting average in some aspects of our drafting,

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Speaker 1: and maybe that comes back like what you said, where

472
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Speaker 1: people are chasing guys like Nick Kurtz, and I find

473
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Speaker 1: I have found myself in some years just chasing to

474
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Speaker 1: try to make up for the batting average. But when

475
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Speaker 1: you take some of these guys that you know, if

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Speaker 1: everybody's taking these two forty two fifty batting average for

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Speaker 1: a spaseman, assuming you're play in a batting average leag

478
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Speaker 1: by the way, I know there's some people out there

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Speaker 1: that like, ooh, building average will be p That's fine,

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Speaker 1: but Vinnie, I think gives you kind of an extra

481
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Speaker 1: boost for that. So again, career high maxx velocity, career

482
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Speaker 1: high barrel percentage XBA supports it. He was pulling the

483
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Speaker 1: living crap out of the ball. He only struck out

484
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Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the time. And when you go and

485
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Speaker 1: look at like pitch types, reiki pitches and fastballs, you

486
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: just were not getting by him while he was pulling

487
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Speaker 1: the ball in there and the cherry on top. They're

488
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: bringing in the walls in Kansas City and that is

489
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Speaker 1: going to create an even better hitting environment where I

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Speaker 1: think it's feasible to perceive that Vinie pas Quarantino could

491
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Speaker 1: be a thirty five plus home run hitter with good average.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing that we you know, I end

493
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Speaker 1: up kind of liking about a guy like Raphael Devers,

494
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Speaker 1: and Vinnie has got an ECR rank of sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: I have seen him go quite a bit lower in

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Speaker 1: a lot of different spots, so I think there's a

497
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Speaker 1: lot of value in some places. He's even the tenth

498
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Speaker 1: first basement off the board. He's going to be a

499
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Speaker 1: major target of mine, and I think there's even advantage

500
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Speaker 1: if you were to have gotten let's say a Vlad

501
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Speaker 1: and then a corner infield spot of getting Vinnie if

502
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Speaker 1: he were to fall into the eighties or something like that.

503
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Speaker 1: I really like Vini pas Quantino, But what do you think.

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Speaker 2: I think that that is something that a lot of

505
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Speaker 2: people should really heavily consider this year, especially you know,

506
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Speaker 2: specifically if you are playing in a rote league or

507
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Speaker 2: league where you have to start corner infield spots, make

508
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 2: it to first basement because third base, as you guys

509
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Speaker 2: are going to hear on our preview, I think it's

510
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: next week is not a great spot. And here we're

511
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Speaker 2: looking at even outside of the top twelve names guys

512
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Speaker 2: that I'm really really like. Like I said at the

513
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Speaker 2: top of the show, I think it goes even a

514
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: little bit deeper than Welsh's preference goes, take your corner

515
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: infield from first base. If you took Vadi in the

516
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Speaker 2: first don't tell yourself all. I can't take Vinnie or

517
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: Devers now if they're the best player available, Take those

518
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Speaker 2: guys and lock up that corner.

519
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Speaker 3: But I love Vinnie. I've always been a big Vinnie guy.

520
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: A thing about him, too, is there are a lot

521
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Speaker 2: of players who don't I don't know, don't outwardly seem

522
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: to care so much about the analytical side, where Vinnie

523
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Speaker 2: p is a great follow on Twitter. He's always talking

524
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Speaker 2: about ways to improve him self. He's always digging into

525
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Speaker 2: the analytical side. And I think that those players are

526
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Speaker 2: going to be more apt to improve because they know

527
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Speaker 2: what they need to do and they're not burying their

528
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 2: head in the sand. Twenty eight years old still we

529
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 2: could see the best year of his career. He's just

530
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Speaker 2: now entering his prime. So I'm all aboard of this pick.

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Speaker 1: Michael Garcia, Bobby Wood Junior hitting in front of him,

532
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Speaker 1: Guys that are going to move on base, get into

533
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Speaker 1: scoring position, RBI opportunities, love any love the cost That

534
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Speaker 1: leads to one last thing. Look at this top twelve,

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Speaker 1: I use the word tier. Let's talk about tiers just

536
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Speaker 1: for one second. Shoe. There are twelve players in here,

537
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Speaker 1: but the twelfth player, Michael Bush, is not the same

538
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Speaker 1: as Nick Kurtz, nor is he the same as maybe

539
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Speaker 1: a guy like Vini paz Quentino. So what I want

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Speaker 1: you to do real quick, give me the number and

541
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Speaker 1: then show me where the tiers are. How many tiers

542
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Speaker 1: in the top twelve, first baseman do you have? And

543
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Speaker 1: who lives in what tiers?

544
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Speaker 2: So I'd say there's probably four. I think that that

545
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Speaker 2: top group of Vladdie, Alonzo and Kurtz kind of serves

546
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Speaker 2: as its own tier for me. However, I think that

547
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: you could ask ten different people. They might you know,

548
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Speaker 2: everybody has a different opinion on what they want to

549
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: do with the position. But those three do feel like

550
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Speaker 2: the clearcut top three. I'm not a huge Bryce Harper guy,

551
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Speaker 2: but I think he is in that next group with

552
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: Olsen and Devers, and honest I think Freeman and Pasquentino

553
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: probably should be above Nailer. And then there's the Nailer, Soderstrom,

554
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: Rice and Bush group that I think is kind of

555
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: that fourth grouping there. But a lot of really good

556
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Speaker 2: targets here.

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Speaker 3: Man.

558
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Speaker 2: I the more we talk about it, the more I

559
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: like first base, the more I'd be pretty much happy

560
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: to end up with nine or ten of these guys

561
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Speaker 2: that we're talking about here.

562
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm actually surprised you said that, because that's pretty

563
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: much my tier here. I do think there's an argument

564
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Speaker 1: that you can say, you know, Kurtzvlad, Pete, Alanzo, they're

565
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Speaker 1: their own tier. I think you could say Harper all

566
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: the way down to Vannie is a tier. I agree,

567
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: there's a guy or too I don't really love, but

568
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, I don't know if there's that

569
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: big of a difference between Bryce Harper and Vine pas Quentino.

570
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Speaker 1: And then I think when you get to Tyler Soderstrom,

571
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Speaker 1: Ben Rice Busch, it's a little bit different of a

572
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Speaker 1: feel of a tier. So I think in general, I'm

573
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Speaker 1: gonna agree with you that there's four. But I do

574
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Speaker 1: think that you can make the argument that there are

575
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Speaker 1: just three in this tier, which also shows the strength

576
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Speaker 1: of the position. But then things start to fall apart.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're going to look at the deeper first

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Speaker 1: base tiers, and then we've got our sleepers, our bus

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Speaker 1: All right, let's look at thirteen through twenty four, the

600
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: deeper first base here, but in a fifteen team roto,

601
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: there are still starters in here. Let's take a look.

602
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: Coming from thirteen to twenty four, we've got Yondi Diaz,

603
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: followed by Salvi Perez, Wilson Contrera, Spencer Torkelsen, Christian Walker,

604
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Jonathan rant Ronda, Alec Burlson, kle Manzardo Munataka, Maricami, Andrew Vaughan,

605
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Speaker 1: Spencer Steer, and Sal Stewart. So, as said before, I

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Speaker 1: guess I don't necessarily disagree with you, Like could you

607
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: live with Spencer Torkelsen? Yes, I think you can definitely

608
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: live with Wilson Contreras, Salve. So maybe you're right. Maybe

609
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: it is like fifteen ish deep. If I'm going to

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00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: designate it, as I said before, as a deep position,

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Speaker 1: I would say eighteen to twenty. I definitely don't think

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00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: I would be comfortable with Alec Burlson or Jonathan Ronda

613
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: unless I just dominated all those other spots. So these

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00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: are deeper play. Some of these go into you know,

615
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Speaker 1: post two hundred hell Sala Stewart and Spencer Steeer were

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Speaker 1: you know, pretty affected by the Iohannio Suarez signing that's

617
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Speaker 1: out there. There's a lot of questions. Let's do this first.

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Speaker 1: Let's discuss Murakami. Murakami is very polarizing. He comes in

619
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Speaker 1: at twenty one here. His best spot is been seventeen,

620
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: so you know that's right around like where a Christian

621
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Speaker 1: Walker would come in, or relatively like Victorqualsen. I think

622
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: a lot of the negative press has, you know, pushed

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Speaker 1: the rank down. I'm going to take a guess here though, Joe,

624
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Speaker 1: that when we start to get the ECR versus ADP,

625
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: which is something we've got here in Fantasy pros, you'll

626
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: see like what players are being drafted higher or lower

627
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: than what the consensus rank is. I just have a

628
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: feeling that Manna Taki Murakami is going to be one

629
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Speaker 1: of those guys that is going to go higher because

630
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: the projections they're pretty weird on him. Obviously he's a

631
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: big power bat. But Murr Kamm, I believe I'm gonna

632
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Speaker 1: have to pull this back up because I thought he

633
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Speaker 1: was under in and Also there's all the like first

634
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: and third position eligibility things you're going to deal with here.

635
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: But Murakami is projected on the bat X at thirty

636
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: homers ATC at twenty eight homers. Those are huge numbers,

637
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: but garbage batting average and horrifically bad strikeout rates. Bad

638
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: X has him hitting two oh six ATC two seventeen.

639
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: The most optimistic is like it zips at two thirty four.

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00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: He's polarizing. There's big power numbers. He's the unknown.

641
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: What for you?

642
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: And what answer is the Murakami paradox in drafting? Is

643
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: he someone that we should be looking at or is

644
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: he just a straight avoid?

645
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: This year, I could see people being interested in him,

646
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: and he's the first guy we've mentioned that. It will

647
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: depend kind of on your format, of which site you're playing,

648
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: on which eligibility he has.

649
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: On the NFBC, he's just third.

650
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: I think on the more shallows he'll be first and

651
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: third if you can stick them at third base. I

652
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: feel a lot better than putting him at first, just

653
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: because I like first a lot.

654
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: I think there are better.

655
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: Options at first, But I do worry in general here

656
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: if you look at the bad X, which I think

657
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: we have crowned as the most accurate projections for the

658
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: last five years or something. Two h six batting average,

659
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: thirty eight percent strikeout rate, but it does come with

660
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: thirty homers and eleven steals.

661
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: So what is this.

662
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a version of O'Neal cruise where

663
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: you're gonna get the counting stats, but you're gonna get

664
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Speaker 2: a two hundred batting average to go along with it,

665
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: and you're getting a bad lineup too. I mean, the

666
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: White Sox have made some improvements, but they're not great,

667
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: and Murakami's projected to bad six right now according to

668
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: roster resources. We're usually pretty accurate with this stuff. If

669
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: he's sandwiching Andrew benin Tendy and Austin Hayes, doesn't give

670
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: me that warm fuzzy feeling for runs in RBIs necessarily

671
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: I think the power's legit. But if he's gonna hit

672
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: potentially like in the one nineties, he's going to be

673
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: below the Mendoza line without the runs in RBI, I

674
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: can't see myself being that interested, and less I'm in

675
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: a dress and he's fallen quite a bit, and I

676
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: still need somebody for third base that would be where

677
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: I really want to use him.

678
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm putting him at first.

679
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm missing out on some better options

680
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: or I kind of messed up my draft and let

681
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: the position get away from me a little bit.

682
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I mentioned before, like I think in my

683
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: mind this entire I'm gonna just call it a rough tier,

684
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: the deeper option tier. These are corner infielders. Yes, you

685
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: can put Wilson, Contreras and Torcles in his first I

686
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: definitely think you can do it. But in an ideal world,

687
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: these are your corner infielders. But as you go down,

688
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: you're really missing the boat. If a guy like Murakami

689
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: is on there, if you were to not look at

690
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: his batting average kind of like you mentioned, he looks

691
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: like the most draftable player bad X as him at

692
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: thirty homers, eleven stolen bases, mid seventies on runs and RBI.

693
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: That's incredible, But it's a batting average tank that you're

694
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: going to be chasing. You're gonna have to have multiple

695
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: players on their higher batting average above the you know,

696
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: the average line of that position to carry him back up,

697
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: and it takes away that advantage. I'm just not sure

698
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: the juice is worth the squeeze. Now it is kind

699
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: of a free cost. He isn't one of those guys

700
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: because of the projection where he's gotten crazy high. But

701
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: I do think he's going to be drafted higher because

702
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: third base. He's going to have that eligibility probably everywhere

703
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: at third base in that position kind of stinks. I'm

704
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: not sure he really will ever be a first baseman.

705
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: It's more of the corner infielder. But I am going

706
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: to pass. He will be a pass for me this year.

707
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: He's not someone I'm looking at, but we do have

708
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: two guys that we are looking at, so Joe deeper

709
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: option range. You are looking at a player that is

710
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: almost one of the last men's standing in Saint Louis.

711
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: A lot of young guys surrounded him. I actually really

712
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: like this guy. I just don't know how to place him. Sometimes.

713
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: I think the batting average can help run good source

714
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: of runs in RBIs doesn't do the big counting stats.

715
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: But you are highlighting Alec Burlson.

716
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you guys listened or maybe they were there

717
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: in person for our show in Arizona a few months ago.

718
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: He was one of the early favorite targets that I

719
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: highlighted and I have not changed. I'm not way in

720
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 2: my love for Alec Burlison, really love what's going on

721
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: with him, aside from the surrounding environment in Saint.

722
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: Louis, which we'll dig into in a minute.

723
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: But he made improvements across the board that haven't really

724
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: been talked about so much as batting average went from

725
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: two sixty nine to two ninety, on base went from

726
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: three fourteen to three forty three. We got the barrel

727
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: rate up three points from six and a half to

728
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: nine and a half. He was chasing less, swinging strike

729
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: great went down as well, and you know the market

730
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: has been moving. In November he was the two hundred

731
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: and seventeenth player by ADP and now he's up to

732
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: one seventy. So if you were listening to that show

733
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: in Arizona and you drafted around, then you got a

734
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: little bit of a bargain with Alec Burlson. I think

735
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: he's a guy who maybe calling him a five category

736
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: contributor might be pushing it a little bit, just five

737
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: stolen bases last year, but a guy who's not going

738
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: to hurt you anywhere. And twenty twenty four he stole

739
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: nine bases. The projections are for five or six. You

740
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: can take that projected for twenty homers, seventy some odd

741
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: runs and RBIs with a really good batting average. The

742
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: worst projected batting average is two sixty three, the high

743
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: end is two seventy eight. And well, the surrounding environment

744
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: is not I favorite in Saint Louis. As you mentioned,

745
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: there's not that many guys left that we know and love,

746
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: but Donovan Herrera, Burleson, Newt Bar and Win.

747
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: If he's sandwiching that group, it's not the end of

748
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: the world. It's not horrible.

749
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: And there's also a chance that Burlison could end up

750
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: being a trade chip at some point in the season,

751
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: being dealt to a contender.

752
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: Maybe not.

753
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: He's got a couple of years left on this contract,

754
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: pretty affordable. But if Saint Louis is tearing it all down,

755
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: maybe Burleson does get traded to a contending team at

756
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: the deadline. The real appeal here is a guy who

757
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: was not going to hurt you in any category, and

758
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: in most formats you're looking at not just first base

759
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: eligibility but outfield as well. So a guy that you

760
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: can easily plug into your lineups.

761
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of trade candidates, if Brendan Donovan is still

762
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: on the team by the time this episode airs, that's

763
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: one of the things. But he does do a lot well,

764
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: and he's going to be positioned and kind of prime

765
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: to hit at a good spot in this order nineteenth

766
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: among the first basemen here, so he's a good value.

767
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Speaking of good value, this player is going after Murakami.

768
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: ECR has him as the twenty second first baseman. He

769
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: was a bismal with the Chicago White Sox, the guys

770
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: he found life. He hit one eighty nine with the

771
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox. Then Andrew Vaughn was traded to the

772
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers, where he proceeded to hit three h eight

773
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: hit nine homers in two hundred and fifty four at bats,

774
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: got back on base again three seventy five OBP. He

775
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: just refound himself what ended up as a whole from

776
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: If you look at baseball Savant, he had career highs

777
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: in barrel percentage, his second career high in hard to

778
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: hit rate, one of the lowest strikeout rates he's had

779
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: in his career, got the ball in the air, the

780
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: best average X velocity ever he pulled the ball more

781
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: than ever, and he was like a top twenty to

782
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: twenty five percentile kind of across the board barrel, hard

783
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: to hit, X slug x wOBA. He was squaring the

784
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: ball up, he wasn't whipping and chasing anymore. And he

785
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: re established and just found that Andrew vaugh that was

786
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: drafted at the high end, top end of the MLB

787
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: draft some years ago. And the more interesting thing, too

788
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: is you go and look and a lot of the

789
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: projections are kind of with this that X as you

790
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: mentioned before, very very positive. Two fifty six, twenty two homers,

791
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: eighty one RBI with a sub twenty percent k percentage

792
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: in one hundred and thirty one games, one hundred and

793
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: fifty games. Maybe there's twenty five homers out of him.

794
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: He is the twenty second first baseman. He is going

795
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: I think in many instances outside of the top two hundred.

796
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: You want to talk about a guy that has top

797
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: ten first base value that is going outside the top

798
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: twenty at the position, an ideal corner infielder with a

799
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: great look at that offense around him too. By the way,

800
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: you got a lot of young guys that are stealing bases,

801
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: getting on baits. You've got Yellick, who kind of refound

802
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: himself last year, and Vaughn's going to hit in a

803
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: really solid part of that order. Pat Murphy loves him,

804
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: he loves being there, and he's reinvigored back to the

805
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: player that he was. And with all the big hype,

806
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: is he going to be a top ten first baseman.

807
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that, but I do know he's

808
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: going to be a target, especially in fifteen team drafts.

809
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: I think he holds an even extra edge here Andrew Vaughan.

810
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: I love him for a twenty five homer season. I

811
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked, really wouldn't be shocked if he pulled

812
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: kind of remember a couple of years ago Naylor, where

813
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: Naylor was like twenty two to twenty five homers, but

814
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: like one hundred runs, hitting for higher batting average with

815
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: the Guardians. That's where I think Andrew Vaughn can chip

816
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: in a little bit. So I'm gonna be targeting in

817
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: a lot of spots. I don't know if you have

818
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: any feelings on Andrew Vaughn.

819
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he turned into like prime Pooh Hooles the second

820
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: he went to the Brewers. I don't have anything against him,

821
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: especially if you're drafting in the NFBC. I mean you

822
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: mentioned on our ECR he's the first base twenty.

823
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: Two in early ADPs. Twenty seventh too. Eighty four is

824
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 3: his ADP.

825
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: So if you are in one of those early draft rooms,

826
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: he's a guy that's one of the last picks.

827
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to make.

828
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: And if he does carry it over even all the way, like,

829
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: do I expect that he'll have a nine hundred or

830
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: close to a nine hundred OPS. Probably not, But even

831
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: if you're getting seven fifty to eight hundred OPS in

832
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: that lineup, I mean, it's always underrated. Every year the

833
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: Brewers are projected to finish like third, and they always

834
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: give you ninety some odd wins and a really good lineup.

835
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 2: They were the best team in baseball last year in

836
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: the regular season, and you got Cherio terrang Contreras, Jelich

837
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: and then Vaughn hitting fifth in that order could be

838
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: one hundred RBI. I wouldn't project him for a hundred,

839
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: but I think Derek is correct and having him in

840
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: the eighty range with the bad X numbers, he can

841
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: exceed that easily. I'd bet against the top ten first baseman,

842
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: but top fifteen I could see it.

843
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: I can definitely see it.

844
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of potential return that's floating out there

845
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: with him. And you guys can let us know who

846
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: are your favorites on the deeper options. Who your favorite

847
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: in the top twelve? Drop him in the comments below.

848
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: We definitely want to know. We want to highlight some

849
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: of those and see where people are drafting. When you're

850
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: looking through that top twenty four, a lot more players

851
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: you can look at in ECR. Of course, that leads

852
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: us to the final section of the show, where we

853
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: are going to be looking at sleeper bust and must

854
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: have six first basemen are going to qualify here. We

855
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: did this in shorter form in previous year's episodes, but

856
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: we get to really dig in this year. So let's

857
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: start with our sleeper at the position. There's always the

858
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: big discussion of you know, what is a sleeper. I

859
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: think Andrew Vaughan would probably qualify for me if I

860
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: wanted to put him in here. I'm going a little

861
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: bit different. Your sleeper Joe for first.

862
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: Base is who I'm going with my boy Wilson Contreras.

863
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: I think there is always a little bit of a

864
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: discount coming from more of a premium need to get

865
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: this type of position in catcher, going to first base,

866
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: he had been especially I play a lot of two

867
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: catcher leagues. Wilson Contreras had been a top hundred pick

868
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: for the last several years and had warranted that, especially

869
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: when you're putting him in the catcher spot. Now going

870
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: to first base, you're seeing the ADP, you know, close

871
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: to pick two hundred. If you're looking at the ECR,

872
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: he's outside of that first group. He's fifteenth on our

873
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: expert consensus rankings, and I think it's just too low.

874
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: In one hundred and thirty five games last year, in

875
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: a worse lineup than one that he'll be in this year,

876
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: he had twenty homers, seventy runs, eighty ribis, and hit

877
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: two fifty seven with a one twenty four WRC plus

878
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: fourteen percent barrel rate was the best of his career.

879
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: Forty nine percent heart hit rate was also the best

880
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: of his career. And going to Fenway, I mean, I

881
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: hate to see the Red Sox doing great things as

882
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: a Blue Jay fan, but I really like what they've

883
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: done in the lineup. I know that some fans feel

884
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: like the bottom half is maybe a little bit underwhelming.

885
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: For Wilson Contrera's his fantasy purposes, that doesn't really matter.

886
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: Anthony Story, Duran Contrere's Willi or Abreu who we talked

887
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: about a couple weeks ago. We both really like Willier

888
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: of Brauw. I think the top half of that order

889
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: is great. Contreras still thirty three years old. He's not

890
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: past the point where he's too old to have value

891
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: or anything like that. He's not declining at all, and

892
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 2: in fact, that numbers last year were arguably the best

893
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: of his career from a lot of perspectives, of the

894
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: lowest swinging strike rate of his career as well, new

895
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: environment in Boston. Some people can be worried about what

896
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: a player will look like in a new space. But

897
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: going to one of the most hit or friendly parks

898
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: and all of baseball, I think Interreres can give you

899
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: twenty five homers, eighty runs, eighty ribis and continue to

900
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 2: contribute in the batting average apartment as well.

901
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: My sleeper for this year, we are going to Kansas City,

902
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: and we are not going to our boy Vinnie pas Quentino.

903
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: We're going to go to Jack Cagleone also could cite

904
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: the live episode we did our dear friend Eno Sarahs

905
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 1: talked about him and I'm a total bye. Last year

906
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: Jack Kaglan was a big disappointment. Only hit one fifty seven,

907
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: only played around two hundred bats. You know, he had

908
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: some homers in there, but really just everything across the

909
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: board was not good. With a slight little underlying few

910
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: positive signs. One of the fastest bats in all the baseball.

911
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: He had a twelve percent barrel rate, which was really nice.

912
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Forty two percent hard hit rate was you know, bit average,

913
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: solid max x velocity and maybe one of the most

914
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: important stats why I think he can succeed twenty two

915
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: percent strikeout rate. That was something we were really worried

916
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: with Jack Kaglan. He suffered a little bit from like

917
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: the classic rookie couldn't get the ball in the air.

918
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 1: He had like a four degree launch angle. I think

919
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: that early run has major, major bounce back potential. You know,

920
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: if you want to look at like Babbit numbers, one's

921
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: seventy two, that is no world is that going to

922
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: And when you're looking at like a Babbitt number, that

923
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: is something that is a clear bounce back, like sometimes

924
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: a guy might be twenty or thirty points off of

925
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: their career babbit that is at least one hundred points

926
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: lower than where he's going to sit. And that shows

927
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: in his pitch types, where he only won fifty two

928
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: against fastballs and expected batting average of two sixty one.

929
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: He hit only one seventy one against breaking pitches and

930
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: expected two thirty five. I know some of you say, well,

931
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: expected stats don't matter, but what that at least tells

932
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: us is there is positive regression from babbit to pitch

933
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: type numbers across the board. Then you pair that with

934
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: well above average barrel. We know the guy is one

935
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: of the biggest bats in all of baseball. That I

936
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: think Jack Cagleion is set for a really big year.

937
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: Bat X is a little pessimistic. They have him at

938
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: two thirty two with sixteen homers over a full season.

939
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: Maybe that's twenty. They like the k percentage, but you

940
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: do see some others that jump up. Oopsie's got him

941
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: at twenty in only one hundred and twenty one games,

942
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: but at two point fifty eight batting average. As mentioned,

943
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: I really like the lineup. I think I think Kagalion

944
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: is going to find that rhythm. He's a huge power

945
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: bat and he already showed off some underlying stats that

946
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: when it clicks, he can be a monster. He could have.

947
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: If there's any guy outside the top like twenty that

948
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: could put up thirty plus homers, it is Jack Caglion.

949
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: The k percentage and some of those expected numbers with

950
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: the hard hit, I think are all going to start

951
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: to click together and we're going to see a big year.

952
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: So he is my sleeper at the position, a much

953
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: deeper play option for you, and won't qualify everywhere. He

954
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: played ten games at first base ESPN Yaho, He will NFBC.

955
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't. Jack kg Leon though does qualify as mine.

956
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: All right, our bust, your first base bust for the

957
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: year is.

958
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: Who I might ruffle some feathers here, but it's Bryce Harper.

959
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't think that he is going to be bad,

960
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: but I don't think that he is going to be

961
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: good enough to warrant where he's being drafted. And a

962
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: lot of the time, you know, even though I mentioned

963
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: earlier that a lot of those early round guys of

964
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: years past have moved down a little bit. Bryce Harper

965
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: still a top fifty pick in a lot of rooms.

966
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: And when I look at the production we've gotten from him, again,

967
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: it's not been bad. But the last time Bryce Harper

968
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: drove in one hundred runs was twenty nineteen. In that

969
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: same time for him has been one season where he's

970
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: had one hundred runs scored himself, who was twenty twenty one,

971
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: and he was at one oh one. He's now thirty

972
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: three years old, and as he gets older, I don't

973
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: know if he's going to be stealing as much. You know,

974
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: he's still been in the low double digit ranges most

975
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: of the last few years, but as he continues to age,

976
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: is he going to steal I'm not sure if that's

977
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: a part of his game that he really needs to

978
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: be successful, and it might be something we see go

979
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: by the way side. And when you're looking at the

980
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: power numbers as well, I mean, twenty seven homers last year,

981
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: thirty the year before twenty one, eighteen twenty twenty one

982
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: was the last really great year that Bryce Harper had

983
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: and since then the last four years have been okay.

984
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: But not great.

985
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: I know the lineup around him is still good, but

986
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: when I look at the first basement being drafted in

987
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: that range, I feel a lot more secure in the

988
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: runs and RBI. I'm going to get from Olsen, from Devers,

989
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: from Alonso, from all of those guys in that kind

990
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 2: of top couple of tiers. So I think Harper could rebound,

991
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: he could have an amazing season, and I would have

992
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: egg on my face. But at the same time, the

993
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: trends over the last few years have been that he

994
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: is very good, but he's not producing elite first round

995
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: fantasy seasons anymore, and as he continues to age, I

996
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: think the probability of that happening again just goes down.

997
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: So I might also ruffle some feathers here with my pick.

998
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: We both picked bigger names. But also, if you're gonna

999
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: have a guy that's gonna bust, you're not going to

1000
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, it's your try mus Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1001
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 1: Ya arise, it's going to be in the upper tier.

1002
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: You kind of pseudo alluded to it earlier. I'm gonna say,

1003
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor. You liked a couple guys over Josh Naylor,

1004
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: and that's going to be my bust this year. He

1005
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: comes in as the seventh first basement overall he's above

1006
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman, he's above Vinnie pas Quintino. I think there's

1007
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: some obvious reasons why, Like you could end up justifying

1008
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: why that is. He's very high in the NFBC in

1009
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: a lot of spots he's going inside, like right around

1010
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: the top sixty. I feel so much of it is

1011
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: still based off of those stolen bases. And you know,

1012
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 1: call me silly, but I just don't believe that that's sticky.

1013
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be able to repeat

1014
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: that high of a stolen based number. Maybe it ends

1015
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: up happening. I think the league has caught on. There's

1016
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot of spots where they let him do this.

1017
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it is going to end up happening again.

1018
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: If it does, it is probably going to boost up

1019
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: the value. But then you also look at the hitter.

1020
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: He had only twenty homers this past year. While you

1021
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: saw a decreased barrel percentage, not a major increase on

1022
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: the hard hit rate either. He didn't get the ball

1023
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: of the year anymore. He wasn't adjusting to that. Why

1024
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: he was pulling the ball in the air, and he's

1025
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: in a really tough environment. To be fair, he did

1026
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: have a better home run rate when he got to Seattle,

1027
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: but again, that's something I don't believe is sticky. That's

1028
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: a really tough environment to hit. And this isn't like

1029
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: a no doubter, no brainer, home run hitter. Can he

1030
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: hit a home Can he have a one hundred RBI?

1031
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: Yes?

1032
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: Can he hit twenty homers twenty five homers? Yes? Can

1033
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: he hit for a high batting average He had two

1034
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: ninety five this past year and his XBA was two

1035
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: seventy one. These are all possible. I think so much

1036
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: is built around his stolen bases, and I kind of

1037
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: just don't believe those are sticky. I think you see

1038
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: a lot of spots where he's going to be hitting

1039
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: in the two sixty two seventies projections have around fifteen

1040
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: ish stolen bases, which I still think is aggressive. I

1041
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: just don't think him going near the top five or

1042
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: six first basement or inside the top sixty. I think

1043
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: it is solely based around the stolen bases, and that's

1044
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: not someone that I think that is really again using

1045
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: that word sticky. That's something that can continueously, we can

1046
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: trust can keep happening.

1047
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: All right.

1048
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: Our final one here is the must have first baseman.

1049
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: These guys are going to have some form of being obtainable. So,

1050
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Joe Rico, who do you got?

1051
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with Tyler Soderstrom. It's not a player

1052
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: that I expected to be super super in on, but

1053
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: the more draft that I do, the more times I

1054
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: end up clicking on his name. The profile just feels

1055
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: really really safe to me. He seems like a really

1056
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: smart baseball player. They move him to the outfield and

1057
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: he's immediately an exceptional defensive player. He just seems to

1058
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: really understand the game of baseball from all angles. And

1059
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: when you look at the production last year, twenty five homers,

1060
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: ninety three ribis, eight steals, and he hit two seventy six.

1061
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: I said the Burlison wasn't helping or it wasn't hurting

1062
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: you anywhere. Tyler Soderstrom was actively helping you in all

1063
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: the categories. And one thing I want to say about

1064
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 2: him in particular is I think the average fantasy player

1065
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: remembers Tyler Soderstrom in April last year going completely mental.

1066
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: I think he hit nine home runs in the first

1067
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: month of the season, and I think the perception of

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00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 2: the average player is that he kind of fell off

1069
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: after that, and April was not Homer's twenty four RBI

1070
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: twenty runs. He didn't meet those numbers in any other

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00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: singular month of the season. So I think the average

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00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: person will say, oh, Sodastrim, he kind of fell off

1073
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: a cliff. If you look at the second half of

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Speaker 2: the season. His numbers not in the power department, but

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00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 2: his numbers as a whole were actually better. He hit

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Speaker 2: three hundred in the second half of the season with

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Speaker 2: an eight to fifty three ops and a one thirty

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00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 2: four WRC plus in the first half eight hundred ops

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00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: and a one twenty WRC plus, still very good, but

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00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: despite the power kind of dipping in the second half

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Speaker 2: of the season, he became a guy who could hit

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00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 2: for average, hit three hundred and overall was a great

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00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: offensive asset in a great lineup. And again, as we

1084
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: alluded to with Nick Kurtz, another year in that tiny

1085
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: ballpark for Soderstrom and the last thing double eligibility as well,

1086
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: every single point I think is in his favor. So

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm all over Tyler Soderstrim this year.

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Speaker 1: So my guy here actually came with a caveat mister

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00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: Joe Rico was like, should we save him for another

1090
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: show because no one's really going to use him at

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00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: first base? And I actually think that's the interesting argument.

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Speaker 1: Mine must have first baseman is Ben Rice, Who's gonna

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00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: have probably both of those spots this year and continue

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00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: the eligibility. Joe says he's going to be a catcher

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Speaker 1: for everybody, but I think that isn't the case. I

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00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: think there's going to be a lot of spots where

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Speaker 1: Ben Rice ends up being a first basement. Now, I

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00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: think that was your NFBC brain coming out more than

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Speaker 1: anything else. To catcher leagues, duh, ben Rice is going

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00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: to be a first baseman, that's not a question. That's

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00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: an NFBC. But if you're playing in single catcher leagues,

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00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: ben Rice, even an NFBC is coming at a good cost.

1103
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: In single catcher leagues, it's going to push back even

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Speaker 1: further away from the sixties into the seventy eighties, maybe

1105
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: even nineties. He's going off as like the tenth first

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00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: baseman off the board. But from a production standpoint, I

1107
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: think there's a legit scenario where Penning what you've done

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00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: with the position, how we've talked about it. If the

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00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: position gets away from you. You can take it ben Rice,

1110
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: and then you can collect one of those fun catchers later.

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00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: And Ben Rice has the wherewithal to be a super

1112
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: valuable first baseman regardles of the catching eligibility. Twenty six

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00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: homers last year to fifty five top ten percent out

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00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: almost across the board. In his hitting profile that's been

1115
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: pretty well known. Fifty six percent hard hit rate, fifteen

1116
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: percent barrel. Those are both elite gets the ball in

1117
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: the air doesn't strike out. Yes, he is an elite catcher,

1118
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: and there's a ton of value in it. But I

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00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy to think that you can take

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00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: Ben Rice, put him at first and say, well, I'm

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00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: going to get Ivan Herrera for when he qualifies, or

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00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to get dot dot dot catcher, because you're

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00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: probably not living in the elite catcher market. Ben Rice

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00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: legitimately can be an elite first basement regardless of the

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Speaker 1: catching eligibility. So I kind of see that there's no

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00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: reason not to get him for the du dual eligibility

1127
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: he can perform I think as a top five first basement,

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00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: which might be the number two catcher. Think Ben Rice

1129
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: is a guy that you have to have, regardless if

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00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: it's catcher or first baseman, you gotta have him. Who

1131
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: do you have to have? Drop him in the comments

1132
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: below your sleeper, your bus and you must have. And

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Speaker 1: Joe said it earlier, he said, Oh, we got a

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Speaker 1: third base episode coming up, maybe next week. How about

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Speaker 1: this week you can try that. One's going to be

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