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So you have some questions, Yes, I do. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.120 This is a good way to get some some really 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.200 good topics out there that we don't always talk about. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.240 As I said to you on the watch along, I'm 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.040 not sure if I'm going to flip the order of 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.440 how these broadcasts. But as I said as we recorded 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:58.960 our watch along, ECW on TNN, okay, huge for you 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.480 guys to get onto the network and to get onto 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.360 a big television platform like TNN was it was the 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.760 Nashville Network for those of you that don't remember, but 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.080 unfortunately not really. I think what everybody kind of expected. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.960 What was the general tone in the general feel of 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:20.200 the jump to ECW on TNN. I think TNN was 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:25.160 our downfall. I think that destroyed us. You know, we 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:31.360 had a pretty strong show on syndication and everybody loved it. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.039 It was great. The problem was it was syndication. Not 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.640 everybody received it, so you had to do tape trading 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.960 underground crap blah blah blah blah blah. When we got 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.040 on TNN, we thought this was going to be our 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:46.159 savior and it was a disaster. They had their thumb 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.440 on us. There were certain things we could do we 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.440 could not do, and that's where the whole angle of 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.520 the network came from. Because the network didn't want us 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.520 to do this. The network didn't want us to do that. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.600 Blah blah blah. So we ran with it and we 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.640 made Cyrus the network and it you know, it fit. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.960 It worked out right. Then we find out that we 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.880 were the guinea pigs for that channel to see if 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:14.000 wrestling would sell, but they already had a deal with 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.560 Vince McMahon waiting for now. We only signed for one 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.479 year contract, so as soon as our contract was up, 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.840 we knew he was going to write to Vince. Right, 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:29.080 So in that year, you have a company that's not 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.960 even running commercials for you. I've said this too many 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.680 You couldn't find a commercial for us. But when they 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:40.400 did air, it was like Friday night at like six 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.840 and we were on what time, eight, nine, eight or nine. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.080 I think maybe it was eight eight o'clock. I think 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.120 so a commercial would run like right before, Oh catch 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.640 ECW and TNN. It would be like seven to fifty 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:59.520 five and oh, okay, there's a commercial. Awesome. Now, no 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:03.480 promotion whatsoever, you know. I remember when we first signed 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.919 and they made us go to like a party. I 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.680 think I told you about this before. They uh not, 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.359 the whole the whole locker room didn't go. I was 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.760 one of the chosen people to go to this network party, 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.200 and I remember they had like goodie bags and inside 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.800 it was like TNN stuff, you know, And I was 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.400 like looking around, I'm just like I don't even know 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.400 how to hell I'm here, like what is going on? 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.799 You know what I mean? But we did not feel 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.360 like we fit in. We didn't feel like we were 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:38.960 a part of the network because they didn't treat They 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.640 treated us like the ugly stepchild or something, you know 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.080 what I mean. It was. It was not a good fit. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.120 I don't feel that they were honest with us. I 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.240 don't know if Paul knew the deal ahead of time, 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.960 like hey, you know, we're gonna give you a year. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.840 We're gonna sign with Vince like I don't know did 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.680 he know that, We don't know, you know, but I 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.200 was rumored almost after you guys started that when USA's 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.280 contract with WWF was up, that they were going to 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.480 move to another network, and TNN was pretty well known 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.520 that they were going to make the play for WWF. 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.560 Well they did, and they they they got them, and uh, 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.280 it just to me. I feel like if we could 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.720 have stayed, you know, if we would have stayed syndicated 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.920 and found somebody else that might have been better for us. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.680 It couldn't have been worse. It couldn't have been How 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.560 could it have been worse? Now with Paul changing some 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.440 things for TNN, you know, they things they wanted, there's 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.600 things they didn't want. Do you think it affected booking? 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.480 Because the roster was also changing at that point in 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.960 ninety nine, We're seeing folks starting to leave, We're seeing 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.520 some of the long term ECW stars departing, We're seeing 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.800 a lot of newer faces. Do you think it changed 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:00.600 the way Paul booked the shows? I feel like in 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.880 a way yes, because again, like we at this point, 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.720 we have two shows, so the edgier stuff would go 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.600 on this hardcore TV, which was our syndicated show, and 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.560 ECW on TNN got the water down version of what 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.880 we were right, So there were things, like I said, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:25.840 we were not allowed to physically do on the network, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.800 on the national network, but on syndication. I mean, look 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.520 at what you just saw. That that was If that 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.680 that was on TNN with the Homeless Guy, right, if 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.160 that was on syndication, we probably would have let them 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.080 fire something. It would have been so much more, you 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.040 know what I mean. It was just it was apples 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.080 and oranges. It was a completely different ballgame when we 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.040 got to TNN. Misers. Yeah, it's just funny because you know, 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:57.760 TNN was not anything except for the Country Music Channel 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:02.040 before CMT. It was a lot of Western based programming, 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.880 you know, in terms of like cowboys and classic movies, concerts, 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.720 you know, like if they had a talk show on, 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.679 they're bringing on, you know, some country acts. And when 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.440 you heard ACW was going there, you're like, uh, that's 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.000 completely backwards and shouldn't be the case. But now let 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.480 me throw this one to you too. Years later, TNN 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:27.280 would become Spike TV. Right had been able to penetrate 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:34.920 Spike TV Nashville Network or Spike TV now come on 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.560 You tell me incredible. It would have been better if 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.360 it was Spike TV. It was. It was a whole 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:43.320 different format, The programming was completely different. It was an 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:48.120 edgier demographic. Wise, it was a younger crowd who watched 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.400 Spike TV. You know what I mean. It was it 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:55.440 wasn't our demographic. TNN was not aimed for people who 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:59.880 liked wrestling. It just wasn't. It was not a good fit. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.760 And you know, while it brought us to the national stage, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.920 it brought a watered down version of what we were 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.560 to the national stage. Right. It's gonna get your casuals 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.840 that are channel surfing on a Friday night and just 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:18.080 so happened to see wrestling on television, right, and and 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.959 not the good stuff. Right. But that's where I remember 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.360 seeing Dusty Rhodes for the first time in ECW was ONNN, 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.160 and that's where like, okay, that could draw on the 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:32.120 casual Who's just well, Dusty fit the Nashville Network pretty good. 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.880 He did. Yeah, I mean there was you know, I 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.319 just feel like if you looked at their programming and 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.440 what they offered, we were the lead. What were we 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:47.319 the lead into roller jam or roller ball or whatever? 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.800 It was the city. Eventually, I think eventually it turned 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.280 it was yeah, roll the rebirth of Roller Derby or 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.960 something like that. Exactly. It was like the good old 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.480 boys stuff, and it was just that's not you know, 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.040 if WCW were to be on there, I think that 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:09.280 would have been like a better fit than many CW was, Like, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:13.280 I just never I know that that's probably the best 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.440 deal Paul could have got at that time, but I 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.400 just felt like it was such a waste. It was 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.319 a waste of time for us. It just it didn't 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.839 help us. I think it hurt us, you know, I 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:32.120 don't know. And again, if social media was what it was, 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.839 then we could have been you know, we could have 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:40.160 moved to maybe YouTube premium where you could have paid 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.840 for a subscription to watch our show. Like, there could 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:47.760 have been so many more options to save the company. 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.679 But back then there wasn't you know, there wasn't all 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:57.360 this stuff available. So that's okay, it's unfortunate, you know, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.840 but it is what it is, Yeah, really is because 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.760 again a year later is the WWF's arrival and then 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.480 the slow burn away from the Nashville Network into what 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.600 would become Spike TV. Yes, yes, and we all know 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.920 how successful they were with that. Exactly good on you. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.600 Wwe Now let me ask you this. So, when we 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.320 were on our Live with Mickey James, people were asking 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.640 her about comparing feuds from her history with current feuds 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.800 that she has with Chelsea Green and Deanna Pirazza. Right, 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.160 So I was thinking about while that you guys were 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:33.680 talking how you could have used social media back in 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.880 the day. Right, let's just say you and Beulah, let's 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.320 put you in take you out a ninety five ninety six. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:43.280 But in twenty twenty two, would you use social media 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:48.280 specifically Instagram and Twitter as it means to further storylines 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.959 or would you use it strictly to promote your product? 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.320 Because these girls argue they're throwing barbs at each other, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.480 they come little promos and their phones. See the problem 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:07.280 with that. You have to either use it for work 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.440 or use it for personal reasons. Right. I feel like 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:15.960 the two don't really mix well because a lot of 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:21.120 times you're promoting an angle which is contradictory to your 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.920 real life. Right, And you know, let's give an example 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.960 if in today's day and age, I was working with 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.040 Shane Douglas and we were an one air couple, but 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:38.880 I had a husband and children at home. I could 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:46.800 not use social media as like a personal outlet. I 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.959 could not say, can't wait to take the family of 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.000 the Disney World and show that picture in front of 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.120 the county. To me, that's a conflict of interest right there. 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.200 You either use it for one or you use it 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:00.840 for the other. So the way I use social media now, 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.480 I don't really put my family on there because that's 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:07.199 private to me. And plus people are creeps and I'm 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.760 afraid that people are going to be looking. Yeah, it's 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.679 just weird these days, you know. So I feel like 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.839 I would use it. I promote, you know, That's what 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:22.120 I do with social media. I saw girls I think 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:26.440 they were from Impact or AEW the one signing I 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.080 was at in Baltimore. They just went into the middle 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.720 and started shooting a promo against each other, and somebody 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.080 was filming it, and they started pushing each other and 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:39.720 then they started running after each other through like the tables, 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.160 and I just sat there and I was just like, 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.640 come on, like really, like this is what it's come 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.920 to now, And then they started giggling, and then they 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.440 walked back to their two and I'm like, okay, I 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.680 just saw you hate each other. Now you're giggling and 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.600 you're running back now. Granted, the people who are on 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.560 social media will not see that part, but the people 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.440 who were at the convention or watching you right. So 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.240 it's kind of silly if you think about it. But 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.480 if you can live the gimmick and not cross over, 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.000 you know, you have to just pick one or the other. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.280 I hate when it contradicts each other. That is a 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.800 pet peeve of mine. You know, we all know it's 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.080 a work. I get it. We all know that, but 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.520 it just looks stupid when you're saying one thing and 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.160 then you're doing another. I don't like it. Yeah, it's 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.080 a little counterproductive, especially if you're in, you know, one 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.520 of the two bigger organizations and it's not sparaging any 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:39.400 of the other federations and independent promotions out there in 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:43.280 those top two that have the most TV time. It 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.160 just hurts when you're out there using your social media 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.200 I think to further angles and then five minutes later 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.680 talking about how you know your besties are in the 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.920 car with you on your way to you know, go 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:57.760 get something to eat after the show, and it's one 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.160 of the people you're just ripping three weeks before. I 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.600 think that's the problem. And I don't think it could 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.480 have worked in the nineties if there was a social 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.400 media because I think there's still that mentality that you 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.040 guys would have gotten called the hell out if that 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.840 was the case, right, somebody backstage would have pulled you aside. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:19.560 I'll never forget when this one time because in the beginning, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.840 Buel and I we roomed together. We were roommates, and 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.600 but we were against each other every weekend. But here 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.560 we were staying in the same room. We were driving 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.880 in the same car, like we were getting ready together 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.360 because she was my best friend at the time. And 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.680 we were in the hotel and we were walking to 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.520 the elevator. There was a bunch of fans. The door opens, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.680 and like we I kind of gave her a look 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.600 and I was like ill, and I walked to one 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.840 side of the elevator and I went like this, and 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.720 I just gave her the death stare and she got 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.480 on and she was like all kind of timid, and 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.400 she stayed on her We got off at the same friggin' 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.560 you know thing. But she went this way and I 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.000 went this way, and then when we first closed, we 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.439 started hysterical amb and we ran into our room. But 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.680 I was like, shit, you know, like they're everywhere, fans 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.960 are everywhere, they're watching us. You have to be really 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.440 careful because you know, back in the day, they didn't 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.240 even dress in the same locker room. There was a 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.040 heel locker room and a face locker room. Yeah, but 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.840 you know, by the time I came around in the nineties, 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.879 that had stopped. But we still tried to maintain a 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.080 little bit of k fabe. You know, the heels usually 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:28.960 drove with the heels, and the baby faces with the 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.959 baby faces, and that's the way it worked out, you know, 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:37.119 but we tried to be careful. Uh. You know, I 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:41.720 I just don't I don't know. I think that I 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:47.400 think it's dumb if I wrestle you and then I tweet, hey, man, 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.440 hell of a match. You're you're a good kid, blah 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.080 blah blah. Really I just get the shit out of you. 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.040 And now I'm saying, oh, thanks for putting me over 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.040 do it with the guy almost that he had the 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.879 match with and said, why you tweeted? How you know 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.240 they didn't do any flips they didn't do any of this, 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.080 but they had one of the greatest matches in the 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.120 night and blah blah blah, and he tags the guy 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:13.440 and it's like you just were trying to kill him. Yeah, 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.720 and you don't like him. Why are you tweeting at him? 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.920 But you've said you know that Shane didn't want you 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:22.040 to sign autographs at one point, and then when he 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.120 wasn't looking, it made me so sad because like those 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.800 people would stay untill three four o'clock in the morning, 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.280 and he was so mean. He was so mean. Like 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.440 I don't know if you would like him back then. 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.160 He's a different person now. He has really softened up 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.200 since then. Like I think we speak the same language. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.000 I think we would have found I don't know, like 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.440 they there were times when I wanted to choke him 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.280 back in the day. But yeah, I just remember always 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.840 leaving and and they'd be standing there like with their 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.800 signs and their poster boards and their their pictures, and 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:56.359 they'd be like this, and I'd go like this and 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.639 go get in a car and I'd be like, oh, 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:04.240 you're terrible, You're that's awful, but you know, and I 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.880 would go sorry, sorry, sorry, that's so. I just heard 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:12.560 a story from Kevin Nash on his podcast that Vince 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.320 had gone to them at one point and said to 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.040 the click like, can't ride together, especially you know Seawan 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.720 and Razer they're in a program. They can't be riding together. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.560 And Shawn Michaels had a Shawn Michael's you know, huge 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.800 blow up and said, I'm on the road three hundred 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:28.679 days a year. I should be allowed to ride with 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.520 whoever the hell I want to ride with, because you 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.720 mushould be to the limits and I just want to 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.919 be with my friends. So he allowed it. But what 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.240 Nash said they would do is sometimes who if it 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.680 was two babyfaces in the front or two heels in 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.720 the back, they duck down. Makes sense. That's how you 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.119 get around driving out of the arena where you know. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:48.960 I mean, I've been on the sides of the road 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.600 while the wrestlers drive out of the arenas, and we've 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:55.679 done just as many people on the outside we've done that. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.520 It would be like if I, you know, if I 0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.560 was in the car with Dreamer or something and we 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.440 were again tcha, you know, I would have to duck 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.679 my head or whoever is in the car you know, 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.200 you would duck down when you were leaving, but then again, 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.800 you're in the car for four hours. You know. I 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.480 understand what Sean's saying, but for him to say it 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.200 to Vince is kind of ballsy. He's the only guy 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.680 that could really like down talk Vince apparently over the years. 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:23.200 So yes, hell half, no fury like a HBK talking 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.240 to Vince McMath. I don't think it's a problem driving together. 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:30.320 I just feel like, don't tweet it out right. You know, 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.040 just well the nineties, you'd have to get a picture 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.680 of them, run to the Kodak developer, and then get 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.800 your pictures back six weeks later, and then find somebody. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.159 You could show a very blurry picture of somebody in 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:47.080 the back. You can barely see it. It's fuzzy, it's blurry, 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:52.920 it's dark. You know what's funny? Too recently either, I 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:57.720 think it was yesterday, Brian Myers put up a tweet 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:02.480 about how him and ma Cardon are gonna take the 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:07.080 tag titles from Heath and Rhino. But prior to that, 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.520 he was just putting over how he's so excited to 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:15.960 sit with me and Heath had sat him. Don't worry 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.000 I'll sit between you guys to keep the peace. It's 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.880 like you're fighting him, but we're all gonna sit together 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.760 at wrestle Gate like you know what I mean. It's like, 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.800 I don't know, it's I know, it's silly, you know, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.760 But if you're gonna keep angling, Yeah, if you're gonna 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.960 keep angles going like stick with either hating a guy 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.879 or loving a guy like I don't know, don't flip flop, 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.320 you know what I mean? Yeah, I agree, I don't know. Okay, 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:47.080 last last topic here for the freestyle. Uh, somebody, somebody 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:51.040 just made their debut in ae W that has a 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:54.760 lot of people talking, and only because it seems like 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.760 when the last Days of Verse hit, there's gonna be 0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.880 one guy who's gonna find a wrestling promotion to get 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:03.240 in to. And that's one double J Jeff Jarrett. I know, 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.640 I saw that he's been in everything, but I don't 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:09.000 think he's ever been in ECW. Well, so that's what 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:10.399 I was going to get to. So he makes a 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.360 grand debut in AW is actually very cool the way 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.240 they did it, and you know he was in WWE 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.200 this year. He was he obviously wrestled Rick Flair's last match. 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.920 Now he's in AW. He wrestled in GCW earlier this year. 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.639 You know, he's been all over the map. He founded TNA, 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:31.159 you know, wwf WCW ANDWA. He's been everywhere, but he 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.680 never was in ECW. So let's go back to the nineties. 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:39.000 Let's put the old time machine in play. Take a 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.920 guy like Jeff Jarrett, and I'll give you two choices. 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.280 You have when he shaved his head and he had 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.240 his guitar and he said, don't piss me off, Jeff 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:52.040