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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: We're heading into peak political season, and unfortunately that often

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Speaker 1: means frame of some personal relationships. I was on book

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Speaker 1: tour for much of the last year for the book

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Speaker 1: That Stolen Youth that I co authored with Bethany Mendel,

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Speaker 1: and I can't tell you how many people came up

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Speaker 1: to me and told me they had fallen out with

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Speaker 1: their family members. Very often it was their college or

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Speaker 1: adult aged kids over politics. It was really crushing to

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Speaker 1: listen to. I mean, these people are so upset that

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Speaker 1: of them, I just thought it was too late, or

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Speaker 1: that there really wasn't a road back in the stories

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Speaker 1: that they told me. The advice I give to parents

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Speaker 1: with younger kids is you have to lay the foundation

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Speaker 1: to be filled in.

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Speaker 2: At school or elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: Almost always the people who come up to me at

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Speaker 1: my events had not done that. But what if you

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Speaker 1: did do that? What if you've had all the conversations

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Speaker 1: and the debates and you've very much spoken your values

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Speaker 1: but your child still goes a different way. You're going

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Speaker 1: to love them no matter what, so you have to

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Speaker 1: find a way to relate. Sadly, in most of the cases,

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Speaker 1: it was a child fresh from their college indoctrination factory

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Speaker 1: who pushed the parent away, and there was not a

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Speaker 1: lot the parent could really do. Again, it's crushing, and

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Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't happen to any of us. Okay,

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Speaker 1: a child is their own unique situation. What about falling

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Speaker 1: out with family or friends, which happens all the time

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Speaker 1: and I hear stories about it all the time. I

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Speaker 1: think a lot about that line in the movie Bronx Tale,

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Speaker 1: where the kid is a huge Yankees fan and the

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Speaker 1: mobster that he befriends tells him that Mickey Mantle will

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Speaker 1: never love him or pay his rent. I feel like

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Speaker 1: that about politics sometimes, and I feel like that about

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Speaker 1: politicians all the time. I try not to have friendships

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Speaker 1: dissolve over politics, but of course, yes, that's happened in

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Speaker 1: my life. Honestly, it happened most often during the George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush administration, and not so much since. Maybe I cleaned

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Speaker 1: house then and never had to again, you know, Haha.

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Speaker 1: They were friends who would become belligerent or nasty. And

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Speaker 1: often they were the friends who were only peripherally into

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Speaker 1: politics at all. It's like they needed the negative release,

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't allow it to be on me. My

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Speaker 1: friends on the left who actually are into politics, or

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Speaker 1: with a lot less anger or vitual. Look, i think

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Speaker 1: all of our political issues matter very very much, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not perfect. I absolutely do have judgment when people

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Speaker 1: disagree with me on issues I care about. But for me,

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Speaker 1: it helps to think about the fact that we are

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Speaker 1: on a rock and space, and we only have so

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Speaker 1: much time on this rock. If you like someone despite

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Speaker 1: their bad political views, maybe they're funny, maybe they're kind

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Speaker 1: to you, maybe you get along well, try to make

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Speaker 1: your relationship work. And if you love someone who has

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Speaker 1: all the bad opinions, try even harder than that. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually quite big into cutting people off who have wronged you.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a future episode, but not

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Speaker 1: over politics. Donald Trump and Joe Biden will never love you.

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Speaker 1: The friend you've had since childhood whose Facebook posts enrage

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Speaker 1: you does love you, your family does love you. Do

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Speaker 1: your best not to let politics divide you. Coming up

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Speaker 1: next and interview with Corey Dangelis. Join us after the break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My

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Speaker 1: guest today is Corey DeAngelis. He is a Senior Fellow

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Speaker 1: of the American Federation for Children and a visiting fellow

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Speaker 1: at Stanford University's Hoover Institution. He's also the author of

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Speaker 1: the new book The Parent Revolution, Rescuing Your Kids from

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Speaker 1: the Radicals Ruining Our Schools. Hi, Corey, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Carol, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: So good to be on with you. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about this and I first discovered your work. You were

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Speaker 1: school choice cause. I've always wanted to know, how did

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Speaker 3: I'm actually married now for listener, now, I have a baby, yay.

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Speaker 3: But no, I got into this as a researcher actually

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Speaker 3: at the University of Arkansas. I did my PhD in

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Speaker 3: education policy, and my first study there linked the Milwaukee

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Speaker 3: Private School Choice Program, a program in Milwaukee that started

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Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety allowed families to take their kids designated

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Speaker 3: and excited about seeing how getting better educational opportunities for

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Speaker 2: Beyond standardized test scores.

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Speaker 3: So I went on to study improvements and mental health

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Speaker 3: associated with these programs, improvements and safety, political participation, tolerance

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Speaker 3: I also experienced school choice growing up in San Antonio, Texas,

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Speaker 3: a magnet school.

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Speaker 2: A lot of states have magnet schools.

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Speaker 3: They're run by the district, but you're not residentially assigned

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Speaker 3: They don't have a geographic monopoly, so they have to

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Speaker 2: And so that was a good opportunity for me.

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Speaker 3: And I think other families should have educational opportunities shouldn't

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Speaker 3: whether that's a public, private, charter, or.

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Speaker 3: And so now I'm at the American Federation for Children,

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Speaker 3: where we're winning so much. I'm almost getting tired of winning, Carol.

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Speaker 1: We're not so exhausted from all the way, honestly, but.

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Speaker 2: No, we're winning in red states.

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Speaker 3: We need to get cracked down on how to unleased

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Speaker 3: And I talk about a little bit of a roadmap

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Speaker 3: of how one how we're winning so much now in

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Speaker 3: the parent revolution. What caused the change for us to

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Speaker 1: I love when you have a politician who is speaking

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 3: One, it's usually because these are Democrats who vote against

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Speaker 3: school choice. And unfortunately, even though Democrat voters, all voters

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Speaker 3: from all backgrounds, Republicans, Democrats, independence, majorities of them support

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Speaker 3: The problem is the Democrat Party is a wholly owned

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Speaker 3: as long as possible. You wrote a lot about this,

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Speaker 3: They were threatening safety strikes. They had local affiliates saying

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Speaker 3: that the push to reopen schools is rooted in racism, sexism,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they threw every buzzword at the wall to

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Speaker 3: But you have so much hypocrisy because their position of

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Speaker 2: On them being hypocrites.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Democrats should support school choice in Polize the

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Speaker 3: Democrats want taxpayers to pay for everything else, but Kate

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Speaker 3: the twelve education choice threatens their special interest that controls them,

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Speaker 2: And that's all that this is about.

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Speaker 3: And one other thing, Carol, before we move on, is

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Speaker 2: And I've actually shared.

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Speaker 3: Videos of these elitists making this argument. But the problem

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you're so right, it should be a Democrat issue.

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Speaker 1: It's almost bizarre that it's kind of flipped that it's

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Speaker 1: to hear you say it is, what do you think

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Speaker 3: Well, we ware house fifty million kids in factory model,

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Speaker 2: And like you pointed out.

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Speaker 3: Earlier, Carol, we should call them government schools, not public schools,

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Speaker 3: because families have actually lied about their address to get

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't be a crime to do so. So that

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think even even from a conservative perspective,

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Speaker 3: As body bacham and said, we cannot continue to send

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Speaker 3: And this is what happened in Virginia with Glenn Youngkin,

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Speaker 1: Got it. Yeah, that's all the parents should be doing

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Speaker 1: Course, right, that's so great. So you have multiple books.

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Speaker 1: Your books are success. Your success. Randy Weingarten hates you.

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Speaker 1: That's really such a point of pride. You're married, you

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Speaker 3: Well, I haven't because I'm I mean, Randy Winegarten beat me.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe because Randy Winingarten has inadvertently done more to

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Speaker 2: Waking parents up, and sparking the parent Revolution.

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Speaker 3: We're finally freeing families from her clutches once and for all,

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Speaker 3: and it's glorious to see unfold. I've actually sent her

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Speaker 2: I'm more like a Jill Biden doctor. I mean, if she.

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Speaker 3: Someone responded by saying, you know, a PhD is a

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Speaker 1: So and here with your best tip for my listeners

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Speaker 3: So I would say to homeschool your children because you'll

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Speaker 2: In the school system. You can learn more at.

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Speaker 3: A fraction of the time. With homeschooling, obviously it would

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Speaker 3: of benefiting you mentally. And physically almost in a spiritual

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Speaker 3: way as well, if you do it.

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Speaker 2: The right way.

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Speaker 1: See, I know you're right, but I think I'm going

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Speaker 1: to pull my kids out of their schools in the

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Speaker 1: homeschool instead instead of having to work out. So he

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Speaker 1: is Corey D'Angelis. His new book is called The Parent Revolution,

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Speaker 1: Rescuing Your Kids from the Radicals Ruining our Schools. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for coming on, Corey. You were fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Carol, thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us on the Carol Marcowitz Show. Subscribe wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts.