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Speaker 1: Hello, my love, it is La La Cant welcome back

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Speaker 1: to give them La La podcast. I'm excited for today

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Speaker 1: because I feel that we had a really productive podcast

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Speaker 1: meeting and we're getting back to our roots of pop culture.

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Speaker 1: I have been a little scarred culture. I'm like, let's

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Speaker 1: steer clear of that. What's happening in the tech world,

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Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Gives some apples. What's up with Tesla right now?

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. I always love your guys' feedback,

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Speaker 1: although sometimes hard to digest, but I love productive, yes,

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Speaker 1: productive feedback. But before we jump into it, how is

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Speaker 1: everyone's weekend?

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Speaker 2: Weekend?

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Speaker 3: What did you do?

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Speaker 2: I went home to upstate New York and for my

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Speaker 2: sister's baby shower. It was beautiful finger lakes, finger finger lakes.

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Speaker 1: I saw you were on a boat.

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Speaker 2: I was on a boat. I was on a boat.

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Speaker 2: I went hiking everyone. It's so funny because that was

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Speaker 2: like we walked there from my sister's house. It's just

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Speaker 2: like waterfalls, and everyone was like, where is this. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: there's so many of these around here. It's literally just

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Speaker 2: like a random hike, like a mile away from her house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this because my mom was like, Jess,

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Speaker 1: because on a boat, I want to be on a boat.

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Speaker 2: That's my sister and brother in law's boat. And I, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we always go it on it and just go to

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Speaker 4: So you went for her baby showering shower.

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Speaker 2: I was there from Thursday. I left Wednesday, though, I.

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Speaker 1: Flew on a red eye all intense. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Did you sleep at all?

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Speaker 2: A little sleeping? Oh yeah, okay, really quick though. When

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Speaker 2: I was on the plane, I was I was sitting

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Speaker 2: kept it's like his leg kept like touching mine. So

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Speaker 2: I was like, do move do? I tell a flight

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Speaker 2: attendant like, this man keeps looking at me? Do you

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Speaker 2: have anything in first class?

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Speaker 3: And how I agree?

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Speaker 1: Yes, we have a lot. Do you have money for

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Speaker 1: the first class? Otherwise you get a coach seat with

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Speaker 1: this man staring at you.

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Speaker 2: But it was weird anyway.

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Speaker 1: There's no laws against staring. I know that's the thing,

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Speaker 2: But part of me was like, what if I fall asleep?

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Speaker 2: What's he waiting for? I'm also paranoid, but I was like,

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Speaker 3: Like, finger your legs?

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Speaker 1: Finger legs?

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Speaker 2: Is he waiting to finger legs? Y?

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Speaker 1: No, he probably he maybe thought you were really pretty

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Speaker 4: Or he could have been a little fucking creep. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just happy that you were you got there safely. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So how big is your sister's bump?

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Speaker 2: It is a decent size, Like, it's bigger. It's probably

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Speaker 4: Could have a bigger baby too. It's a boy, right, yep, it's.

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Speaker 2: it was really cute. Her friends are so sweet like everything.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of love it though.

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Speaker 1: First baby is really fun. You start hungering down a

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Speaker 1: But I like that her hospital bag is packed already.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little premature earth, but you never know what

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Speaker 3: When you go, you'll tell me And I'm like, oh, gosh.

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Speaker 1: What's making me? This is where my mind goes because

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Speaker 1: go a little differently. My thing that I'm fixated on

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Speaker 1: I don't want you taking pictures of me. I want

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Speaker 5: Oh so, do you think people are just going to

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Speaker 1: Hope not, because it would be a huge bummer if

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Speaker 2: But now it's shame.

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Speaker 3: But today, damn it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shame then for anyone who takes photos of that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please don't come to my house. Yeah, oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I will quickly mention because she said

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Speaker 2: it's very interesting. Well, I don't know if you'll you'll

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Speaker 2: will come for you. She's choosing to bottle feed, okay

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Speaker 2: for many reasons, but that are personal and I won't share.

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Speaker 2: But like her and her husband have chosen that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time understanding why that's a thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't need to do anything else.

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Speaker 2: That's what she's She's like, no, I'm wrapped after no breastfeeding.

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing it like and she's she's strong in that,

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Speaker 1: Well, the doctors get pushy. Yeah, the doctors get hella pushy.

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Speaker 1: And I know that. Luckily for me Easton, I'm gonna overshare.

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Speaker 1: But I gave birth in March. Yeah, January is when

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Speaker 1: always wanted to breastfeed, but again that's a luxury. Not

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Speaker 1: all about like if they're sucking properly and how to

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Speaker 1: position them. And I asked about formula, just because I

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Speaker 4: And she was like, you don't need to worry about that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like that answer.

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Speaker 4: I was like, no, no, no, I absolutely do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I asked you. Yeah, so I need an answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But they are funny about it. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: find it very strange. It's like, this is my body.

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Speaker 1: nine months. I'm ready to get my body back. I

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Speaker 1: don't really want to go from like being a home

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Speaker 4: Being it's like energy source.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's food, it's it's lively.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's so beautiful, but also if you choose not

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Speaker 1: I just don't care whether you breastfeed your child or not.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't affect me in the least.

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Speaker 2: No, And you're yeah at all.

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Speaker 1: So that's strange. I wouldn't even think that that would

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Speaker 2: Right, But what did you guys do this weekend? Because

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Speaker 2: I want to hear about your weekend and Eastince Friday night.

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Speaker 3: Apparently something I got so high on Friday night.

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Speaker 4: Like annoyingly high.

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Speaker 3: I'd drink one hundred milligrams.

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Speaker 2: Of what THC and just like a drink.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it hit me all at once.

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Speaker 2: Could you speak.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a little too much. And I'm trying to watch

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Speaker 4: the season two episode Fever.

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Speaker 5: I finished it, so I was so into it and

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Speaker 5: just knowing that's everything going to happen.

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Speaker 1: He kept talking and it was me, Jenna Willis and

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Speaker 1: my mom, and he would be talking to me like this,

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Speaker 1: and I pause it. I go Easton, shut the fuck up,

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Speaker 1: go home, go to your house, get the fuck out.

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Speaker 4: But I'm done with you. He's like, no, I'm just

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Speaker 4: really high. Mom, and my mom was like, I can't

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Speaker 4: hear you anymore. I can't listen.

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Speaker 2: Go go.

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Speaker 4: Landing comes in. We were like, take your friend home.

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Speaker 3: I was ripped. I even went and showed him the

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Speaker 3: bottle that I drank.

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Speaker 5: And I'm never doing it again, never drinking ever again.

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Speaker 1: Because he kept coming in and out, and I have

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Speaker 1: the alarm system where it's like back door open, back

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Speaker 1: I needed chreats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go to the fucking grocery store.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to drive.

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Speaker 1: Well, you shouldn't be driving, uber should I should have

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Speaker 4: Landon texted me that night. It was like, don't worry,

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Speaker 4: I'm making him stiff.

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Speaker 1: Pepper to calm him down and sent me a photo

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Speaker 1: notes Jessica. You wrote Rodent boys summer. Rodent men are

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Speaker 1: So, who are hot?

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Speaker 2: This is a USA Today article. This is like has

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Speaker 2: You might be Okay, So here's what they do. It's

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Speaker 1: For us all. I'm just so what.

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Speaker 2: Handsome men are usually more svelt than muscular, with more

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Speaker 2: So rodent men like like Jeremy Allen Why like I'm Timothy.

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's here's what I think. It's hipsters, you guys.

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Speaker 1: He's like, well, iganic or authentic from the heart.

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Speaker 4: It's like she literally could not have been any nicer.

441
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: Right.

442
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 4: This is where perspective is a real bitch.

443
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: You know. And I understood the Fudah's talking about what

444
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: they were talking about with like the wife or the

445
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: ex wife, Jaden's mom, who was like the source of

446
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: telling Teresa all of these things. Meanwhile, she's in prison.

447
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: I guess from what the food to say, and John

448
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: Fudah starts going in like your source is a woman

449
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: who's in prison who used to cook crystal meth, and

450
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: Teresa goes, don't talk about j You're talking about Jaden's

451
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: mom that way. Well, Rachel has been the mother figure

452
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: to Jaden for many years and then gets offended by that.

453
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: So there's so much like the thing that I love

454
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: about Jersey. You're taking a bunch of like hardcore Italians.

455
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: It is all about family till the death, and you're

456
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: throwing them all into the mix. I don't know how

457
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: I would deal.

458
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 2: With it right right, Yeah, there's nothing like that energy.

459
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: By the way, it is my favorite. Those Italians family

460
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: till I die don't ever come from my family energy.

461
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: Oh I love it.

462
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Speaker 5: I feel like they could reboot it and pick a

463
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Speaker 5: whole new cast and I'd watch it.

464
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Speaker 2: They are gonna be it's gonna be think about it

465
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: like we're gonna miss the og Jersey. But like you said,

466
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Speaker 2: it's not like these new family members are not going

467
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: to have that same energy. They're gonna be the modern

468
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Speaker 2: Jersey families.

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Speaker 1: They are, like I think they really well if they

470
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Speaker 1: were to, you know, I have to say, yeah, I

471
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: the reason I'm not married. Anytime a new housewife comes in,

472
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: sometime they just hit for me. They hit. It makes sense.

473
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: Some I sit there and I'm like, I just You've

474
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: appeared on my screen for many seasons, and I still

475
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: feel like I am not invested. It's not like I'm

476
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: just indifferent to you. Rachel and the blonde I forget

477
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: her name. Rachel and the other one they just appeared

478
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: last year. The reason why I like Rachel Fuda is

479
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: because I called her out on the podcast last year

480
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: about going to SeaWorld and she was actually really receptive.

481
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: Normally people come for me, and she like slid in

482
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: my DMS and was.

483
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Speaker 4: Like, wow, thank you so much.

484
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of this, and I'm like, you know what,

485
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: I just like, really appreciated you receiving that the way

486
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: you did. But the other girl, the blonde, is it Danielle, Danielle.

487
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: There's a whole thing going on with how she treated Lena.

488
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: Lena is my bitch, all right. I freaking f hard

489
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: with Lena. Okay, she's fabulous. She does my hair when

490
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: I go to New York. No one does it better?

491
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: And what's her name again?

492
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: Lina?

493
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 3: Danielle?

494
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: Danielle, Like he wouldn't call her Brittany. She looks like

495
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: a Brittany to me. Danielle mistreated her, treated her very

496
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: very poorly, and she said what business there was they were?

497
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: She was having a party. Lena had just done her

498
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: hair for free. Lena goes to the event. She's in

499
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: the VIP with Brittany. What the fuck is her name? Aga?

500
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Speaker 4: Danielle, God damn it, Danielle.

501
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: And like Teresa Judas who's really good friends with Lena

502
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: as well, and kicks Lena out because she doesn't have

503
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: a pink wrist band, Danielle kicked Lena out. Yeah, And

504
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: so when Lena tells this story to the girls and

505
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: Lina's like in the friend group, like, yeah, she does

506
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: their hair, but guess what, she's also providing them with

507
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: fabulous looks at times.

508
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Speaker 2: By the way, Lina, Lena is one of the sweetest

509
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: women I've ever She's so giving. And so you're gonna

510
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: kick Lena out of VIP? What are you doing?

511
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

512
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: Give a risk?

513
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: So chic and cool, she should be in your VIP.

514
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: She elevates it.

515
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: And Danielle says to the group, what business does she

516
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: have hanging out with us? She does our hair?

517
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: Oh yo, oh that's really gross.

518
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: You you.

519
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be friends with her anymore.

520
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: No, I can't. Those people are one and done for me.

521
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're gross.

522
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: You're gross, and it's like we're good yucky.

523
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, so that whole thing happened. I love Lena

524
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: and I ride hard for Lena, and Lena and Theresa

525
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: are extremely close, and Lena has been nothing but absolutely

526
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: fabulous to me every time I've gone to New York.

527
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: Literally dresses me for Watcher happens. I'm like, I don't

528
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm wearing. She's like, girl, I got you

529
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: and kills about.

530
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: It, Yes, kills it.

531
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Speaker 1: I just adore her, so that'll be in interesting. I

532
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: just learned as well that Kenya Moore is suspended indefinitely

533
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: from Real Housewives of Atlanta.

534
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I just learned this from you. I'm pulling this out.

535
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: How does that happen?

536
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: Well, let's see, Holly, this is a Hollywood Reporter article.

537
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you said that there was something. So basically

538
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: what happened is they were filming a scene for the

539
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: new season of Real Housewives of Atlanta, Kenya has a

540
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: party for the launch of basically the opening of Kenya

541
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: Moore hair Care. It used to be just the haircare.

542
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: Now she has a full salon. So she has an

543
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: opening party and she chooses, allegedly, Allegedly.

544
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: She chooses in this moment.

545
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: To release some photos of a new cast member I

546
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: believe her name is Brittany Britney Edie, of her performing

547
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: some sort of oral sex. They're labeling it revenge porn.

548
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: She decides. Keny decides at this moment to show this

549
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: poster and allegedly you can see the new girl's face

550
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: and you can see a dick allegedly. Okay, I have

551
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: not seen the actual poster.

552
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: This is just what I've read. This is just what

553
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: I've heard.

554
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: Kenya. After this all came out and cameras were rolling.

555
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: After this all came out, she posted on her Instagram,

556
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: believe none of what you hear and half of what

557
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: you see. The truth always comes to light. So I agree,

558
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: the truth does always come to light. So they're saying

559
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: that she is not filming right now because of this,

560
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: and they are labeling it in the press. That is

561
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: it's a form of revenge porn. I don't know how

562
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: she it says. The suspension reportedly came and this is

563
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: a Hollywood reporter art the article, so it's not some.

564
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: Like reality blurm or something like that.

565
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: This is Legit came after more allegedly displayed posters explicit

566
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: images of franchise newcomer Brittany Edie at the grand opening

567
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: of Keny Moore Haircare Spa in Atlanta, Georgia last week.

568
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: A source told Entertainment Tonight that the photos were allegedly

569
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: found online. Edie later took to her social media to

570
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: seemingly address the controversy, writing in part, it's never a

571
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: good feeling being targeted or hazed by someone I thought

572
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: would embrace me into a new circle that I never met.

573
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have any feelings on that or just

574
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: TBD with what comes out, what gets rebuttaled, refuted.

575
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean after that Kenya posted on Twitter for

576
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: ex I would never engage in revenge porn. I have

577
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: never distributed private images or footage of anyone, nor solicited

578
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: images owned by others to use to threaten or blackmail.

579
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: I have always been vindicated. Maybe like when people say

580
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: things about her. I am reading that right, vindicated. Yeah,

581
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm reading that correctly. I can't talk about story even

582
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: with people planting fake news. Okay, so she is in

583
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: a tricky spot, and this is what also gets hard.

584
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're on a press lockdown with Bravo,

585
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: because that sometimes happens where they're like, no one's talking

586
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: about anything. You have to allow everyone to just drag

587
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: your name through the mud, and they can say whatever

588
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: they want, even though it may be a sliver of

589
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: the truth, half the truth, or maybe sometimes the full truth,

590
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: maybe nothing at all. I have always liked Kenya. I

591
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: consider her to be someone that I would say, you know,

592
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: we fuck with each other. I dig her. We've sent

593
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: each other notes of you know, building each other up

594
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 1: in difficult breakups, whatever it may be. I'm curious to

595
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: know if she's suspended indefinitely while there is an investigation

596
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: that happens, because at the end of the day, you

597
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: can't deny what is filmed, right, If there's something on camera,

598
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna know if that happened or not. Yeah, but indefinitely,

599
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: it just means I.

600
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: Feel like it's an investigation to come to the end,

601
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: they'll have either she'll come back or she'll be suspended.

602
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

603
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting because revenge porn isn't that like something

604
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 5: if there wasn't consent and it was that other person, right,

605
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 5: can't be I'm no lawyer.

606
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: I don't know the laws with revenge porn.

607
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: I also, I believe that it differs state by state.

608
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean if these were pulled from the Internet, I

609
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: don't know.

610
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. So either way though, being Brittany, I'm sure that is,

611
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, if this is true and these photo surface,

612
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: however they surface, that is I'm sure very rough on her,

613
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: you know.

614
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: Right, And let's just say that it happened a long

615
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: time ago and she knows they're out there. Anytime something

616
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: is rebrought to the light, I can imagine it would

617
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: put a.

618
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: Massive pit in your stomach.

619
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, you have to relive trauma. I just

620
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: want to point out though, that Nicole Ritchie I've heard

621
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: back in the day back in the day, played Paris

622
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: Hilton's sex tape for an audience at a party, and

623
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: they're thick as ever, reuniting for a revamp of the

624
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: simple life because it's a hauling out.

625
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: Yes, wait, what but I don't look at him, Steve.

626
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

627
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 5: I would be okay with people playing somebody playing my

628
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 5: sex tape just for a group of people where it

629
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: will never be seen again, instead of it just being

630
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: on TV.

631
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like it.

632
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Bravo can't air it. They're gonna have

633
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: to blur it out, you know. But somewhere there's always

634
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: a little rat that's like here on this Reddit page.

635
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: Here's the photo that they blurret out on Bravo.

636
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: It's just annoying.

637
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: It's just a summer, yeah, a little bad rat rat

638
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: girl summer either way.

639
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's just reality TV man, Yeah, reality TV man.

640
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you make those decisions too, and it's like you

641
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: did it. It's almost like not. I'm not saying she

642
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: did it. So this has nothing to do with this situation.

643
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: But I'm sure you make a decision in front of

644
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: the camera or you react in front of the camera.

645
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: Never been on reality TV, but watching certain things, there's

646
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: no like going back unless you're the Kardashians and your

647
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: executive producing your show. The second you act or react,

648
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: that's it, like it's out there.

649
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, those it's it's gnarly and you sign up,

650
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: it's all you know, fun and roses and butterflies and rainbows,

651
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: and you have a great first.

652
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: Season and it's like, oh, that will end.

653
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: I was going through each season of mine and how

654
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: the audience received me in each and every one of them,

655
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: and it's wild to see how quickly they flip on you.

656
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: And then that being said, do you feel not grateful

657
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: for that? Because yes, great point. Do you feel a

658
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 2: certain way about it because they can flip back as

659
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: far as like maybe you're not their favorite one moment,

660
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: but you know that maybe in a year you'll be

661
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: in their good graces again, or it's like you can't

662
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: even put any energy into it exactly.

663
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: I like to think that. I usually don't.

664
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean again, this season was special, and I'm also

665
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: very hormonal. I think I would have handled it very

666
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: differently had I not been pregnant. I think I could

667
00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: have shaken things off much easier, but normally in my

668
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: not pregnant state of mind, like I perfect example, I've

669
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: seen d ms in the past where one says that

670
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: they love me and it was from however many years ago.

671
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Then they go back to hating me, and then it's

672
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: I watched the same exact person and it's happened on

673
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: multiple occasions, and that's what taught me. I can be grateful,

674
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: but I can't be invested in fan love.

675
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: Because it switches so quick.

676
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 4: It's too quick in the middle, your honest work.

677
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you just got to do you. And grateful

678
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: for the kind words, but not putting power all that.

679
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm grateful, but this is not going to dictate how

680
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: I feel about myself because it's here today, gone tomorrow.

681
00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: So that's how I feel about it. I also wanted

682
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: to talk about Chris Jenner. Oh my gosh, I love

683
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: this sixty eight.

684
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 5: Could you imagine mom being pregnant right now again and

685
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 5: wanting it?

686
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: No, it makes me you want to throw up?

687
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: And no, no, I don't, I think because I'm understanding

688
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: what she's saying. Chris Jenner sixty eight wants to be

689
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: pregnant again. It doesn't mean that she's sitting here being like,

690
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to get pregnant again.

691
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: No, miss back. Yeah you know.

692
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: This.

693
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like even.

694
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: Mom will say I loved being pregnant. She said, not Mom,

695
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: Chris Jenner, Well, I guess everyone's mom. That's where our

696
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: mother said, being pregnant and having babies was her passion

697
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: and all she wanted and did for years.

698
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: Very good at it, very well, nicely done.

699
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 4: You literally just pumped out cash cows.

700
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: I know, just a billion dollars.

701
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: Billion dollar baby, billion dollar baby, billion dollar baby.

702
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: They all came out of air.

703
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: I know, eh, the one that's like, I want no

704
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: part of any seven kids.

705
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kim Chloe, Kim Chloe, Courtney Kendall, Kylie, Rob six

706
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: six Damn.

707
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: I know that's a lot of kids.

708
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: It's so crazy to think about that. Chris did that.

709
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we stay here and talk about like, well,

710
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: of course you loved it. You pumped out cash cows.

711
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: But honest to God, just.

712
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: No matter what.

713
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: No, But she didn't know she was pumping out cash cows.

714
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: Right she.

715
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure she looks at her family, and I do

716
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: believe there are times that they pinched themselves going because

717
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: they did live a pretty I don't want to say

718
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: normal life because they were in a star studded community.

719
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: Everybody was but normal for them.

720
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know there was a day that she

721
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: was having barbecues outside and taken the r V to

722
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: the lake and to look at that point in time

723
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: to where she is now and just like what her

724
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: children have created, and none of them that we know of.

725
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: Every family has their issues, but that level of fame,

726
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna find someone at some point drunk coming out

727
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: of a club with their tampon string hanging out. You're

728
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: gonna have at some point someone stumbling out of Craigs

729
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: and talking to TMZ a little too freely. Who is

730
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: that a lot of famous people who come from prominent families,

731
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: How could you not be so proud?

732
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: Right?

733
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: And of course you would have to love being pregnant,

734
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: because you're pregnant for.

735
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 4: Really ten months?

736
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: They say she's done it six times. I mean it

737
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: would have to be a passion. Yes, Season eleven, talking

738
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: to Lisa Vanner, I'm like, all I want to do

739
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: is make a bunch of babies. This baby and pregnancy

740
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: are kicking my ass.

741
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: Really, I'm like, I think I might.

742
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: Be done too and done like you're this. Yeah, I'm

743
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: like I liked the idea, but it is really hard.

744
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: I truly don't know how mothers do it. I look

745
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 2: at my mom and I'm like, how'd you pump out five?

746
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: I look at Chris Jenner and your.

747
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 4: Mom did five.

748
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, five all vaginally too, which is crazy.

749
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: Oh, your mom's a bad bitch.

750
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 2: I know. But with Chris, I will say, you see

751
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: how she is with the grandkids. She's just like so maternal.

752
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: So I can see why she, like she says I

753
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: would be pregnant again. I believe it. She and Courtney

754
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: seem to share that. I mean, I'm sure all of

755
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: the women, Bernie is.

756
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: The most like CRITHI. Yeah, but as far as.

757
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: Maternal way, they just have this. I'm sure all of

758
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: the women and like and Rob great parents, but yeah,

759
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: they just She's got this maternal like. She loves it.

760
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 2: She family, I know, or at least that's what we see.

761
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't think you could. I don't think you can deny.

762
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: You know, they get a lot of heat online, but

763
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: obviously you don't reach like you don't reach that you

764
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: love them or you hate love them. Yeah, but either way,

765
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: there's there's love there. And because ye, hate and love

766
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: are one one and the same thing. I just find

767
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: them to be a fascinating family, and I don't think

768
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: you can deny that.

769
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: They truly believe family is.

770
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: Everything one hundred percent, And at this point I see them.

771
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes I see new people entering their crew somehow, I'm

772
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: sure it's like they're vetted. I would be closed off,

773
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: not a single new person in unless one of our

774
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 2: close people passes away, then they can be replaced. Oh

775
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: but like no, are you kid? Not a single new

776
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: person Okay, and they just like like like the TikTok.

777
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: Addison Ray at one point being Courtney's best friend.

778
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: Well, what I saw Addison Ray was at a dinner

779
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: or something that they had recently. Really, she's still in

780
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: the friend group.

781
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: See, they're stronger than I am, because I'd be like, okay,

782
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: we now trust no one, so no one is allowed in.

783
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: Well that's the other thing is I think there's a

784
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: very high level of power. You don't want to fuck

785
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: with that family. But in some weird way, and maybe

786
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: I made this up in my head. I've heard nothing

787
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: but incredible things about the family, how they are to

788
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: work with, And I think maybe people get into the

789
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: click and they're like number one, they're super powerful, but

790
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: they're also fucking amazing. I'm not gonna ruin any of this. Yeah,

791
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Interesting I made it up in my mind.

792
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: Did you watch Dancing for the Devil.

793
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: Dancing for the Devil. I didn't, but I read an

794
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: article about it. You guys, your thoughts on this.

795
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: So you know the breakdown of what it's about. Yes, Okay,

796
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: So Easton's gathered that people are idiots. Okay for those

797
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: of you who.

798
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: Are behind, usually like me.

799
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: Dancing for the Devil is about that management group called

800
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: seven n and it was basically a church mixed with

801
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: management group. It is a documentary about how this is

802
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: allegedly a cult. Okay, this family, the Wilking family, decides

803
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: to go live on Instagram. This is how it's outed

804
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: that their daughter slash sister, Miranda Wilking, had moved to La.

805
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: She was in the dance community.

806
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: She joins this church slash management company. She had started

807
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: dating this guy who was also involved. So now, in

808
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: my opinion, she's digmatizized.

809
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's how I feel.

810
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: Right, And she is slowly cutting off contact with her

811
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: family and friends that she once used to be like.

812
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: She and her family was two sisters, Miranda and I

813
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: believe was it Melanie? Yeah, Melanie and Miranda Wilking, the

814
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: two kids they danced together. They were like maybe a

815
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: year and a half, two years apart, very tight knit

816
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: and they dance together. They had a brand, and then

817
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: all of the sudden, she meets this guy, joins this

818
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: church and cuts off family ties well with they go home.

819
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: For Christmas, doesn't go home for like the grandma's funeral.

820
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: The grandpa's funeral. It's very isolating, like she's a different human.

821
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: The Wilkings talk about it on a live video. It

822
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: now has media attention and people start coming out of

823
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: the woodwork saying I've had experience with this. Cut to

824
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: this woman who hears about it and goes, holy fuck.

825
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: She was involved in this church for twenty three years

826
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: right Easton.

827
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: She did research and she was like, he's still doing it.

828
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: He's still doing it, and he has all of these

829
00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: entities like flower shops, real estate agencies, all of these

830
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: things that are his companies that people who are in

831
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: the church Chakaina basically pay all their money to AKA

832
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: give their money to Robert Shin.

833
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 4: He's basically a cult leader.

834
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. What I found absolutely fascinating is Melanie who's actually

835
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: now married.

836
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: To a football Yeah.

837
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: Austin Eckler.

838
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: He played for the Chargers. Now I think he plays

839
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: for the Commanders. But you take two girls from the

840
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: exact same household, exact same parents, not far apart at all,

841
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: and Melanie who one day she enters the church too

842
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: one day and she talks about how just because you're

843
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: a part of seven M and the church, you have

844
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: to be invited to the services, and she goes, I

845
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: wasn't invited one day, so I was like, it's fine,

846
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my friend to the airport. She has

847
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: a call from Robert Shinn's daughter Chloe, saying, Robert really

848
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: needs you to hear the word today. Can you please

849
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: call your friend an uber and get here immediately, And

850
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: she's like Melanie's like, no, yeah, I'm gonna do that.

851
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: And by the way, I've never had anybody tell me

852
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: that's in like a church. We're talking about God being

853
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: like you must be here. Yeah, She's like it felt weird.

854
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: I wanted nothing to do with it after that. Two girls,

855
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: same household. How one could be so I don't want

856
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: to say strong, but mentally strong to be like this

857
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: is fucking weird. I don't this doesn't feel right, and

858
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: the other one falls right into it.

859
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: Mm hm.

860
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: Back to the digmatize, Well, there's that the love connection.

861
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: I also have to say really quick anything just because

862
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this. Any church that is also

863
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: a management company is a recipe for disaster, of course,

864
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: especially in the entertainment industry. What are you that's if anyone,

865
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: just in case you're like maybe new to Hollywood, like no, no, no.

866
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: Church.

867
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 5: They did a piece of like like the chart of

868
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 5: how much money they were given, so like how much

869
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 5: they made fifty how much was it seventeen or twenty?

870
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: Percent of it went to seven m.

871
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: The management company.

872
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 5: The management company took twenty okay, and then you had

873
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 5: your tithing that you'd paid to your church through.

874
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: The management company.

875
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: It would take yeah, pretty much. And then thirty you're thirty, thirty,

876
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: thirty you're ten, ten, ten or whatever. Not thirty you're ten,

877
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 3: ten and ten.

878
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 4: They were basically they were taking over.

879
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 5: Like seventy percent of their income for just fees for

880
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 5: the church and then on management.

881
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I gotta say, I know it's not

882
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: that's insane. I know it's not like I don't want

883
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: this to sound insane. But the whole love connection, the

884
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: whole fact that she had a partner in the church.

885
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, everyone interviewed on the documentary, their

886
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: partners were involved in the church.

887
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: And then it makes you question. I'm definitely watching this

888
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: because I want to question the guy, like, is he

889
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 2: in it for the right? The partner that's in the church.

890
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: Does he love her? Is he just doing it to

891
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: keep her in the church.

892
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: I think they're all brainwashed. Yes, I think they're all brainwashed.

893
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: Because after the Wilkings went live on Instagram, there were

894
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: let's see and I forget their names, but the cute

895
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: the cute girl who cried about how her grandma and

896
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: her mom made her into who she is today and

897
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: how she cut off ties with her she left Yep,

898
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: she's a dance teacher now, Aubrey who was her partner.

899
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: Then you have Concrete who ended up dancing for Beyonce

900
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: after he left Amazing Yep, and his girlfriend Kayla.

901
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 3: I'm terrible with names.

902
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: I know I'm terrible with names too.

903
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: So everyone was everyone they interviewed was partnered up with someone.

904
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: But there there were a group of people who, when

905
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: The Wilkings went live, did kind of come to and go, you're.

906
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 4: Right, this doesn't make sense.

907
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: And the people that she kinda targeted was people who

908
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: had just moved and they had no friends, and they

909
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: bring you into the community.

910
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: Community is everything.

911
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: Someone who's lost a parent. All of these people in

912
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: very vulnerable positions, and then they slowly groom you to

913
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: think that this is normal. And Robert would say, the

914
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: more you give, the more you receive. Well, how could

915
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: that not be true to these kids when they're writing

916
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: over all their paychecks and then they land one hundred

917
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: thousand dollars you know, commercial, let's just say. And they're

918
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: all looking at each other, going, it's to give working,

919
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: it's working. I do need to give more because look

920
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: at the blessings. So it was really fucked up. One

921
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: of the women who had been in it for twenty

922
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: three years did experience sexual violence at.

923
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 5: The very end of it. It rep twenty five the case.

924
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: Does it was it against Robert, Yes, and then people

925
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: who were working for him.

926
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a lawsuit, yeah, you know. And

927
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: and they go in and they call human trafficking and

928
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: there's nothing anyone can do because these are adults who

929
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: are consenting to stay there, but no one's coming to

930
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: the police. And then they have one person go to

931
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: the police and and the cop is like I need more,

932
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: and this woman who's a writer is like one is

933
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: not enough, one is one too many?

934
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: You need more?

935
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: Like what It just goes to show how fucked up

936
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: the system is, how scary it is for victims to

937
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: come forward, but also that this cult still exists, like

938
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: he's still doing his thing And the only reason why

939
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: the Wilkings have a relationship with their daughter now is

940
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: because when they came forward, Robert then goes, oh, no,

941
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: me isolating them from their families is now causing a problem.

942
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: So he tells them go talk to your families, talk

943
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: to them, keep them in your lives, but as long

944
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: as you but not too much, and as long as

945
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: they don't talk about me. And this that's very sad manipulation.

946
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: That is heartbreaking.

947
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: It's also makes me think about like when you when

948
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: you target someone that, like you said, is new and

949
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: is looking for a community to be a part of,

950
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: especially in fucking Los Angeles, or just lost a parent,

951
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: that could also someone calling you and going Robert really

952
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: needs you to hear the word today could also be

953
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: misconstrued as like, oh my god, he cares. That is

954
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: so he wants me there to like hear the word

955
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: this is like my family. That's like someone who cares

956
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: about me. Sure, I'll drop everything, like I'll be there.

957
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: I can see I can just see it. If you're not,

958
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 2: if you're a certain type of person or maybe going

959
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: through a certain thing, I could see that. That's like

960
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: a manipulation. That could be like, Wow, he really does care.

961
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: He wants me to hear this.

962
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 5: Right, and he would tell you to dismiss yourself from

963
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 5: your family because if you killed yourself to your family.

964
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: Die to them, die to them, you'll save them and

965
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: they'll go to heaven no matter what.

966
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: So even if they're sinning, if you died.

967
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 5: To them, if you die to them, they'll go to there'll.

968
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 1: Be in heaven.

969
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: Do that for their Yeah, that's like such mind manipulation, Like,

970
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: oh my god, my family's going to be saved if

971
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: I die for them.

972
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 4: It makes me sad because if someone said that to me,

973
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: I'd be like, you're a freaking case.

974
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: I'd be like you at the night.

975
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. That makes very sense to me.

976
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: It's really sad that religion could be so beautiful, but

977
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: we're humans and there's a lot of yuckiness and evil

978
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: out there.

979
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: And interpretation, you know, and the evil, the yuckies. I'm

980
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: telling you, the devil works overtime.

981
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Man, the devil works hard, but Chris Jenner works harder

982
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: full moment.

983
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 4: The Devil's got nothing on Chris Jenner.

984
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, we need her.

985
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: We need her off. I want you to watch it, though,

986
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: just because you have a sister and I think it's

987
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna really like Tuggy to me.

988
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 4: I will say it was devastating.

989
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so I hope you enjoy it.

990
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

991
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: It was very good. We're out of time, but you

992
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: guys belief.

993
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: We're agin reliefing. But next week we have to talk

994
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: about the Jinks.

995
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: No, that's why I wanted you to the Jinks. Have

996
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: you seen it?

997
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: But you have to watch one and two Jess two seasons,

998
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: two seasons. It's only six episodes each one, it's only

999
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: it's only six episodes each. Yeah, but that's fine.

1000
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: That's fine.

1001
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: Also, if you guys have any documentaries that you recommend,

1002
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: slide in the dm slide in the DMS, docuseries, documentaries,

1003
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: document making the.

1004
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: First word, documentaries.

1005
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: I want all the things get me back into pop culture.

1006
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd also like to.

1007
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 5: Have her if we do talk about it, I'd like

1008
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 5: for people to ride in, even on the main like

1009
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 5: not the bonus, but this with whatever thoughts they have

1010
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 5: on it too.

1011
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're doing.

1012
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 5: No, I thought we're Oh, so they are going to

1013
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 5: ride in. Yes, I thought you were just saying just

1014
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 5: give us ideas. So well, no ache, no relief.

1015
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're doing and relief. Okay, but keep it short,

1016
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: easton your high rambles go j.

1017
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: Just okay, real quick, my ache. I mentioned this, My

1018
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: sweet twenty sixteen g Patriot basic model is giving me

1019
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 2: some trouble and you know what, I love her and

1020
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 2: I'm going to be taking care of her. But she's

1021
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: really she's really pushing mommy's buttons lately.

1022
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: And my relief. This is so cute.

1023
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: I was talking to my dad on father's sake. He works,

1024
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: by the way. My dad is like your mom. He

1025
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: doesn't like he's not into reality and pop culture. A

1026
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: woman he works with walks up to him and she goes,

1027
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 2: are you Jess's dad from give them? My dad was

1028
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: so confused. He was like yes, and she was like fangirling,

1029
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: so her name. I was like, Dad, you have to

1030
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: give me her name. I so apologize if I say

1031
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: this wrong, But Nayelle Garcia, I love you because you

1032
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: were literally yes, we love It made my day when

1033
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: my dad actually called and was like, honey, you never

1034
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: believe me. I was so prosed, I know.

1035
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: So I oh, we love you. Jake and Amy, thank you, Niellie.

1036
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: Do you have do you have a want? Want of

1037
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: the week?

1038
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: That was my ache, then my twenty sixteen Jeep.

1039
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: I already forgot. I already forgot.

1040
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 3: It was a shitty ache. It was a shitty ache.

1041
00:54:53,280 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: Jo. I just refuse to think that she'll die on

1042
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm praying she doesn't.

1043
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1044
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: I think that's why I forgot, because I feel like

1045
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: there was maybe a manifestation. I did listen. I just

1046
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what just happened.

1047
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 3: I did listen all right.

1048
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 5: Ache of the week is I feel off, So I'm

1049
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 5: gonna get some things to fill not off, like my

1050
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 5: body feels off, like I need to do some stretches,

1051
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 5: like I'm tight.

1052
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: So I'm actually achy this week, So I'm gonna do some.

1053
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: Is yours physical physical physical, egg physicalimate.

1054
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 3: And my relief is I don't know if I have one.

1055
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: No relief.

1056
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: You didn't pass away Friday night.

1057
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: I didn't pass away. The relief is the weekend's coming

1058
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 3: up here. Hey, hey, no plans. Relief it's Wednesday when

1059
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: it drops.

1060
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: Okay, right, wow, I love you.

1061
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no ache is an achy. Relief is the weekend.

1062
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: Which we couldn't be further away. But I love you

1063
00:55:59,640 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: for that.

1064
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: I love it for that too. Okay, I want.

1065
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 4: To say that my.

1066
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: My ache of the week, I want to say ocean.

1067
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: My ache of the week is ocean. You know, I

1068
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: came in here being like, wow, you know, it was

1069
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: like it was a good week. I don't have nothing

1070
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: to complain about. But the ocean thing is really you know,

1071
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: I want her to feel good, like if it's not

1072
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: the cough, it's the ear. If it's not the ear,

1073
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: something bit her like a bug. Yeah, what is that?

1074
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. My relief. My relief is that I

1075
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: just got this notification about my baby. I'm twenty nine weeks.

1076
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: The primitive memory is beginning to develop, so music and

1077
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: voices will leave an impression in your baby's brain.

1078
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: Stop baby, So now you're going to play it some

1079
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: some music, a lot of I.

1080
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 3: Don't have to ross.

1081
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna ross galerate her her. I'm going to ross

1082
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 5: galerate and sing to her.

1083
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: Oh good, I love it. There you go, and Ocean

1084
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: has started talking to her and I do this thing

1085
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: where she knock your Ocean knocks on the bait on

1086
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: my belly and I pushed the belly in it, and

1087
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: she thinks that the baby's.

1088
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: Oh because it is so cute.

1089
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: Do you I just said that that is way here,

1090
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: that is adorable.

1091
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Do you put headphones on the on the tummy so

1092
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: they can hear music or do you not do that?

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Speaker 1: You know, I've never done that with Ocean. I just

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Speaker 1: blasted music in the car. And she's a musical baby.

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Speaker 1: She loves all music. And maybe I made that up

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Speaker 1: in my mind and she just came this way, or

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Speaker 1: maybe that did affect her. But do they make.

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Speaker 3: Vibrators with music on them? You just shove it in

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Speaker 3: and now it's play.

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Speaker 2: Not like us actually genius.

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Speaker 1: And it's like it's a little I can't hear it

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Speaker 1: very well, baby can.

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Speaker 3: With it?

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Speaker 4: She seems like a head bobber.

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Speaker 3: Yeah see yeah, my picture we're in there like this up.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's cool.

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Speaker 1: Hello cool. I love you guys so much. I hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed this episode. Reminder bonuses UH drop on Mondays

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Speaker 1: YouTube Friday at nine am Pacific time. I love you

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Speaker 1: so much. I will catch you guys next week