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But first the news of the day, TJ. 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: Watt agrees to a three year extension worth one hundred 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: twenty three million dollars. He becomes the highest non paid 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history. One hundred and eight million of 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: that is fully guaranteed. The four time All Pro edge 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: rusher in twenty twenty one defensive Player of the Year 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: tied at NFL record with twenty two and a half sacks. 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: At forty one million per year, Watt deal sneaks past 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett reconsenting deal four years at one hundred and 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 1: sixty million dollars agreed upon in March. Watt also leaps 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Fogg's Jamar Chase forty point three million dollar deal for 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: the highest non paid quarterback in NFL history. Now there 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: are no more lingering issues. You know, Cam Heywood had 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: his thing last year. He's in camp. He was standing 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: on business. He's in camp. They signed they signed Aaron 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: Rodgers in free agency. They traded for Jalen Ramsey, They 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: signed Darius Slay in free agency. They signed DK metcalf 45 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: in free agency. Pittsburgh out of excuses. Yeah, absolutely, What 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: can we expect from the Steelers this year? 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know what I'm gonna expect from the 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: Steelers offensively. I don't know because I don't know what 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna get out of Aaron Rodgers. Saw we saw 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: what he looked like. But the Jets obviously one season 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: having an injury. Again, I always say we'll see flashes 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers offensively. DK Metcalfe is going to be 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: one of those have to be one of those players. 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: Him and Calvin Austin the third, the type of receivers 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: that elevate the quarterbacks play. They have to elevate at 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: the quarterback play and always be on ten offensively, but 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers are now defensively on paper, that is 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 2: their identity. You know, the days of Antonio Brown is 59 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: Antonio Holmes and Hines Ward and Ben Roethlisberg at the 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: helm where they throw the ball like, yeah, Leveon Bell. 61 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 2: Those days are gone. Those days are going to their 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: identity now in a passing lead, in a pass happy league. 63 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Era has now switched back to their identity being their defense, 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: and they're gonna have to play like it, and they're 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: gonna have to win using their defense. They're gonna have 66 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: to lead them. 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: I like the fact that they got TJ Watt done. Yeah, 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: I think everybody. I think everybody's happy TJ becomes the 69 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: highest played non quarterback Steelers get the years they won't. 70 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: They didn't want to go five, they didn't want to 71 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: go six years. They didn't want to be You know, 72 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: we got this guy and we on the hook he 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: got he got a boatload of money. He got one 74 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: hundred and eight million of the one to twenty three 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. 76 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear it. 77 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, I don't even want that that 78 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: an extra fifteen I'm good. Oyo, you gave this man 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: on a three year deal one hundred and eight, So 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: you gave this man, damn there eight well eighty. I 81 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: don't know what that is eighty seven eighty eight percent 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: of the money guarantee, fully guaranteed. 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know you're here in some things I 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: don't like. I hate hearing people say, oh, he's too old, 85 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: he's over the heell, and I'm like, I mean, dude, like, 86 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: what do we talk about it? What did we talk 87 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: about here? We talk about TJ. Watt? Because if it 88 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: wasn't there, he get paid exactly that maybe or somewhere else, 89 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: like stop playing because you know what you get. You 90 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: know what you get with the product. You know, he's 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: not falling off. No, goddamn cliff, no time soon. It's 92 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: not happening. He's not one of those type of players. 93 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: They thought enough of him, they didn't trade him. If 94 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: you thought he was over the hill, white, then they 95 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: traded man. 96 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: You know, goodwill. They weren't letting that. But you know exactly, 97 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: come on now. 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: So you don't get you don't get. I mean theoretically 99 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: they could o yo, you don't get to say I'm old, 100 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: don't trade me, but then don't want to pay me. 101 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: Nah nah, one of the other. Either you pay me 102 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: or allowed me to go someplace else to get paid. 103 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: I agree, he's one of those guys, the Terry Bradshaw, 104 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: the John Star Wars, Lamb Swans One, you know, Mal Blunt, Lambert, 105 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: those guys, Joe Green, Team one, Helmet Guy Hines Ward. 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: He's Ben Roethlisberger. He's deserving of that. He's been a 107 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: phenomenal player. He's been a model citizen since he's been 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I don't have a problem with this, Like 109 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: you said, Oh Joe, he's thirty. That may seem let 110 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: to do thirty five. He's thirty. 111 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: Wait, he only thirty. Thirty man, Why ain't got me 112 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: thinking t that? 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: Listen. 114 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: I didn't look at his as they got me thinking 115 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: he was like thirty three, thirty four to thirty five 116 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: or something like that. Oh man, he good man, Man. 117 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't. 118 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: I team because because fans listen to teams and it 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: seems like thirty. That was the forty nine ers, forty 120 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: nine ers, forty nine ers, and you know brand, you know, 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: go way back. If you look at them. They started 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: getting off their guys at thirty because it's it's they 123 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: look at it like if it's better to get rid 124 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: of a guy here as opposed to a year late 125 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: and if you go back and look at his study 126 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Coach Belichick history, he always got off guys a year early. 127 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: He said, I'd rather be than have you rock on 128 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: the vine in my vineyard. I'd rather you move on. 129 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: I'd rather not have to pay that. But I don't think. 130 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: I think TJ. Watts, he's been a double digit sack guy. 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: Basically his entire career been a hovering He's been Defensive 132 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. He's been hovering around Defensive Player 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: of the Year year after year after year. I think 134 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: this is the right move by the Steelers. And like 135 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: you said, now you got Jalen Ramsey back there, They're 136 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: probably gonna kick Ram to the safety position. Now he 137 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: can cover your tight end, he can cover the he 138 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: can play the slot. I don't know who jumps in 139 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: the slot. You can't have three guys outside. Somebody would 140 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: have to play the slot, either Porter, Junior, Sleigh a 141 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: Ram But uh maybe who knows. Maybe they have a 142 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: slot corner and they leave Ram at the safety position. 143 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: Who knows. But I like I like this move because 144 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: I think TJ. Watt had earned this. He didn't deserve it, 145 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: because they gave him this money. They didn't give him 146 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: this money based on what he's done. They gave him 147 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: this money that they would still believe that he could 148 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: play out of the late left. 149 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely absolutely, And then you know what you know, 150 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones on the clock. 151 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, My next question, how to this impact Michael 152 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: Parsons because because you waited now, because you remember O 153 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: Joe Crosby, Max Crosby, he came to thirty five, he polled, 154 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: vaulted a Nick Moosa, he went to thirty five. Miles 155 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: Garret said, hold my beer. He goes to forty. Now TJ. 156 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: Wattson forty one. Keep doing this, Jerry. You didn't learn 157 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: your lesson with DAK, so guess what you did. You 158 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: did the same thing with CD. You didn't learn your 159 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: lesson with CD. You did the same thing with Micah. 160 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: Now I know you do all this talking like, oh yeah, Michael, 161 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Mike ain't give you this guy, Michael 162 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: Parson is gonna be the highest page and he's gonna 163 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: get more than what TJ. Watt got, fully guaranteed, and 164 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: he's earned that. He didn't deserve it, he earned it. 165 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have a question for you, and you 166 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: might know better than me when it comes to owners 167 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: and it comes to paying players. Why do they do this? 168 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: Why did they hold off? I mean, what is the 169 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: point in general? And Jerry, I mean, what what is it? 170 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: What is it that they're doing or trying to get 171 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: in order? What some type of affairs the books and 172 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: the money? I mean, I mean, what. 173 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: Didn't we didn't we hear this thing that uh problem 174 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Tory about the collusion thing. We're trying to keep these 175 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: salaries down load Joe, We're trying to keep this guaranteed 176 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: money down. What do you mean what are they doing? 177 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, all right, okay. 178 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: After DeShawn Watson got that put a guaranteed contract, we 179 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that was gonna coll of 180 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: be commonplace. They've tried to suppress that, and they will 181 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: continue to try to suppress that. 182 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: It's only it's only. 183 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: Hopefully, hopefully hopefully Michael keeps keeps us put on the 184 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: gas and says, nah, we're gonna keep this thing north north, 185 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: heading towards the or Star forty two million. I'm gonna 186 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: need forty two and the next great defensive edge rusher. 187 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know who that mean. Garrett, burst Jalen Carter, 188 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm going forty I'm going forty three and I'm going 189 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm gonna need whatever Michael got fully guaranteed. 190 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need that. 191 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 192 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Yeah, Michael seemed that 193 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: he said today that it's heading in the direction that 194 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: it didn't need the head. You know, you you know, 195 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: and he spoke about Dak's supposed to get it done, 196 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: and you wait till the last minute, and then you 197 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: have to overpay DK and you paid see you wait 198 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: to CD, and then you probably had that. You probably 199 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: could have got CD for a couple of million dollars cheaper. 200 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: You damn sure could have got Dak for a couple 201 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: of million dollars cheaper. But you didn't learn your lesson 202 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the first time with Dak because you let him go 203 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: all the way to the end of the contract, and 204 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: then he was hoping he'd give you a deal like 205 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: Jared goff and And and Carson Wiz gave him even 206 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: though they were first and second pick in the draft. 207 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: They got the big signing bonus, and they came to 208 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: him in year three, Dak Prescott says, I'm at the 209 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: end of my contract. These guys still got two years 210 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: and two franchise tags, so theoretically they got four years left. 211 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: I got none. And you want me to give them 212 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: the same deal? You want me to give you the 213 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: same deal they gave their teams. 214 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, absolutely not. 215 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: You'd have thought by now he'd have learned this lesson, 216 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: but Jared hasn't. 217 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he's doing it on purpose because he likes, 218 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: for one, the attention and the big splash he gets 219 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: to make when it does when he actually does pay 220 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: the said player. Maybe he likes it this way. 221 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I mean you're paying I mean, think about it. 222 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: You're paying a quarterback. You're paying your quarterback sixty million. 223 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: That's more. That's more than all the top quarterbacks, all 224 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks that's been in the NFC champion that's 225 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: been in the championship game, that's been to a super 226 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: that's been to h that's been to a Super Bowl. 227 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: He's making more than my homes. He's money more than Lamar, 228 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: he's making more than Borough, he's making more than Josh Allen. 229 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: People like, hold on, wait a minute, but that's what 230 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: happens when you wait till the umpteenth hour. To get 231 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: something done. I like it, Michael says, the Cowboys are 232 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: making it more complicated than it has to be. We 233 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: obviously want to get a deal done earlier. We want 234 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: the relief off our backs, but obviously ownership always going 235 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: to make make it drag out, make it more complicated 236 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: than it has to be. Lack of communication. I just 237 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: never understand when guys come into the league, they are 238 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: consistent and they perform well, why they've got such an urge, 239 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: But then as they have just one good year, maybe 240 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: two good years, they get right away. And now you've 241 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: got TJ. Watt, you got Max Crosby, all these other 242 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: guys are getting paid, and you can't want what us take. 243 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: You can't want us to take less because you wanted 244 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: to decide to wait what I tell you. 245 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: Oh, they trying to play that game with you, mom. 246 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: The longer you wait and see, that's what happened with Jerry, 247 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: the longer he waited. All of a sudden, twenty eight 248 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: million wasn't the going rate for a quarterback. Now it's 249 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: thirty two, Now it's thirty four. Okay, he got to 250 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: thirty million, the thirty plus million dollar, the forty million 251 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: dollar deal, now all of a sudden, it wasn't forty 252 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: five forty six, it was fifty five. So now he 253 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: goes to sixty because you waited, you waited you ay, 254 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: you waited on on Jefferson. So guess what ceee Lamb like. Okay, 255 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: I take a a million dollar less a year, but 256 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: I ain't going to less than that. Michael had made 257 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: it a bundan of the clip from the very beginning. 258 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: My agent will, my representative will be handling all negotiations. 259 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: We're not I'm not coming to your house. We're not 260 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: going out to have a drink, and I'm not signing anything. 261 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: That's what I hired an agent for. 262 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: Would you say, I'm not coming to your house. 263 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not coming to your house. Et no nachos 264 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: and drink no beer. We're not that type. We're not 265 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: that type of part. We're not that type of part. 266 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: Try to they try to pull you in like they're 267 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: your best friend. Both yes, yes, business. 268 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, they will always remember that. 269 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: That's the ultimate love. When you in the workplace environment, 270 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: the ultimate love is currency. You could say, oh he's 271 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: a hard worker. I love this guy here. No, no, no, no. 272 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: The way you show me you love me, the way 273 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: you show me you appreciate me, is to break me off. 274 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: All that other stuff's dress. That's it, that's white noise. Michael. 275 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: Michael want his money. He's he's he's earned it. I mean, 276 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: he's been defensive, he's been he was defensive Rookie of 277 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: the Year, or he's finished couple of second times. I 278 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: think a couple of times the defensive Player of the Year. 279 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: He's always hovering around. And even even his off year 280 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: is double digits. Heven his off year. Even last year 281 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: he had a down year. He I mean, he came 282 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: home but and he probably had some things going on 283 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: that you know, he played through with their hopes and 284 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: you know what, They're gonna take care of me because 285 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: they know what I got going on. They know I'm 286 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: banged up, they know I got a knee or I 287 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: got something going on, so that they gonna take care 288 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: of me. 289 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: And this is this is how they do it. 290 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: Uh thought it was a donut. You'll tried to glaze me. 291 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Now give me my bread. I need all that Hey 292 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: thought I was what yep, thought it was a donut. 293 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: They tried to glaze this many that's a good goal. 294 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: Michael is prob for a four year extension. If TJ 295 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: got three for one twenty three, Miles got four for one. Yeah, 296 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm at I'm at four for one fifty and I'm 297 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: gonna need If TJ got one, got one hundred and 298 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: eight game full of guaranteed, I'm gonna need one twenty five. 299 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: Hey, but that's that good money, that brock. 300 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I want to hear that. And now you 301 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: know we we how we treat our players and all that. Yeah, 302 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: you treat your players. Pay me. That's the only that's 303 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: the only language. That's that's the only a language I speak. 304 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: Washington and Lincoln and Jefferson and Chase, that's what that's grant, 305 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: that's what I speak. I speak. That's the lame. 306 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: And Mica is going into his last year. Yeah or no, no, 307 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: we got two more left. 308 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: I think he I think I think Michael's I think 309 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: Michael ills. I think it's the fourth head into his fifth. 310 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I wonder if I wonder if they're player around. 311 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: I wonder if they I mean knowing Jerry ain't no 312 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: telling how they how they're gonna rock if they let 313 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: him play that last one out o they you think, 314 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: man ain't no telling, Ain't no telling with them, un 315 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: ain't no telling. 316 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I mean it, he's only twenty six. 317 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: I mean the way we value players basically what they 318 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: can do, the owners don't really value them. 319 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: Oh he played on the fifth, Oh he played option. 320 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: He came in and twenty he came in, twenty one, 321 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four. He's on 322 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: a fift year option. 323 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: If they hadn't picked it up, he could have been 324 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: anywhere right now. Yeah, they knew what they were doing. 325 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: He gonna be the highest paid. 326 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't listen. I don't know what 327 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: they waiting on. That's the part I don't understand. I mean, 328 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: and why did they do Why did they do it 329 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: with every player? I mean, well, they're not the only team. 330 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm just saying. 331 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: I get why they Well, you gave you gave Dak 332 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: in CD, so obviously you couldn't pay dak You know 333 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: that CD that and give him what he was waited. 334 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: But now you don't got those You got those other 335 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: two guys out of the way. You got to take 336 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: care of you ain't got I mean, you got you. 337 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: You don't have anybody else coming down the pipeline. Pretty 338 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: soon you're gonna have your big offensive line. With Smith 339 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: coming down the pipeline, you're gonna have. You gonna have 340 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: to take care of him. 341 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 342 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't. 343 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. You know, Jerry does things 344 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: his way. He says he's the best at what he does. 345 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: He's not. 346 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: He's is he says he is, And there's no one 347 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: else that's shit, you know, to run that team the 348 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: way he does. 349 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: I go in my garage and I lay on the floor. 350 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm a Mercedes. No I'm not. I'm a damn food 351 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: laying on my garage floor. Just got somebody say some issue. 352 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: Just got somebody say some ish that'll make it true. 353 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: Hey, that's a good one. 354 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: Yeah he not. 355 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: You know, that's a good one. 356 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys doc Trayvon Diggs five hundred thousand dollars for not 357 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: rehabbing with the team enough. Diggs is believed to be 358 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: the first Cowboys player to see his base salary lord. 359 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: Because of it, The team had an option option to 360 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: not enforce the clause, but chose to. Is this, Uh, 361 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: oh Joe, what are we supposed to what are we 362 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: making of this? Are they being petty or what are 363 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: they trying to do? 364 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say they're being petty. It's that business we 365 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: just talked about. It's that business. And then understanding, listen, 366 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: we're paying you a certain amount, we would like you 367 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: here the rehab. We think we have the best resources, 368 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: and we would like to keep the rehab that you 369 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: are doing that make sure you're coming along at at 370 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: a rate that is sufficient, good pace for us, so 371 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: you're able to contribute, you know, end season when it's 372 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: time to actually play. I mean, but listen, that that's tough. 373 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: That that's tough, that's that's a that's a great area. 374 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: You really don't want to play with not knowing what 375 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: a team might want to do to you. Just you 376 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: know how they treat you when you're hurting. Now you 377 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: know you know how they treat you. That they're willing 378 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: to keep you around, knowing how valuable we are and 379 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: what you can do once you're on the field and 380 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: you are healthy, and they give you the opportunity to 381 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: get right, I think I I think I would take 382 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: an advantage advantage of that. But obviously Trayvon Diggs who 383 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: is a veteran who has the same resources and the 384 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: same maybe maybe doctors and treatments and stuff wherever he 385 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: may be and see fit in getting healthy there. But 386 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: is it worth losing the money? I mean, but the 387 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: kind of money they're passing out now and he's that 388 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: five hundred thousand. 389 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's something you run by the team, OJO. 390 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: Because remember it's being reported. We don't know if it's 391 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: true or not. That one of the issues the Bucks 392 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: had with Dane is that he wanted to rehab in Portland. 393 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: He wanted to be close to his kid. And I 394 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: probably think we're gonna talk about it. Is that. I 395 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: think he's in negotiation to re sign and go back 396 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: to Portland because that's where his kids. Yeah, but I'm 397 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: saying I know he was talking about it, but I 398 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: have some other stuff going on. But with that being said, 399 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: that's something you run by the team. Is it We're 400 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna be required for me to be trained to rehab 401 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: here or may I be rehabed elsewhere? You run that 402 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: by the team because at the end of the day, 403 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: they pay it. They pay the salary, that's I mean, 404 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: they pay They're paying you twins twenty five thirty million dollars. Yeah, 405 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: and I think you know, Digg's at one point in 406 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: time was making I think he makes twenty million dollars 407 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: a year. I ain't counting a man pocket. I'm just 408 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: saying that's something you get clearance from the team war because, 409 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: like you said, oh your five hundred thousand. You know, hey, 410 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: that ain't no that that's that's that's a good little chuck. 411 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: Change, I mean to them, mm hmm, Judy, what's up? 412 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: Why we can't see your face? 413 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: We can't there we go go, oh there you go? Okay, Hey, 414 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: with no further adude, let's welcome Jerry. Judy h former 415 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: number one draft pick up the Denver Broncos, A, former 416 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: Blitnicop Award winner, former uh A National champion with the 417 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: Alabama Road to Here. He is Jerry, you were one 418 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: of you're one of the guys that attended the Wide 419 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: Receiver workshop. Obviously it was down in your neck of 420 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: the woods, South Florida. Why was it important for you 421 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: to attend this shop? 422 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's I was great to be able to 423 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: be around a great group of guys, guys that at 424 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: the top of their position. 425 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: You know. 426 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: I you know, I grew up watching Chad, so you 427 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: know it was a very special moment for me just 428 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 3: to be able to be out there and learn from 429 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: him and all the other guys I was out there. 430 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: NFL ranked you number eighty two, the eighty second best 431 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: player in the NFL after the twenty fourth season. You 432 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: were not even ranked prior to that. What should Cleveland 433 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: expect this year? Eighty two? So clearly you see that 434 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: like eighty two. Nah, I'm trying to get on dining. 435 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get down to the fifties. I'm trying 436 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: to get to the thirties. I'm trying to get to 437 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: the twentieth. I'm trying to be when they talk about 438 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: the five best receivers, when they talk about the ten 439 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: best receiver, I needed them to talk about you. 440 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, you know that's my goal. You know, 441 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: I want to be at the top of my position. 442 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: You know, I'm just keep grinding and stay focused and 443 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: continue to work on my craft and work to be 444 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 3: better than I was the year prior. And I'm still 445 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: chase that each and every day and every year. 446 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because I'm always because I 447 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: look when you came out in the draft. I say, 448 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: he's the best guy in the draft. And I you 449 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: were in the draft with Jefferson and you're in the 450 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: graft with Cede Lamb. So I'm not gonna do hide 451 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: and slight. And those guys are having phenomenal seasons. Why 452 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: do you think the main reason it didn't work for you? 453 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: And and and and I think I know the reason why. 454 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: But I want to hear you said. I want to 455 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: hear you, hear what you have to say. Why weren't 456 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: you able to replicate in Denver what you're currently doing 457 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: in Cleveland? One. 458 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: I think, you know, just consistency just through throughout the 459 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: whole offense, you know, and just a lot of moving 460 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: pieces and a lot of stuff that I had to 461 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: deal with when it comes to playing football, you know, 462 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: such as injuries, you know, different quarterback in every game, 463 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: different coaching staff. 464 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,239 Speaker 1: You know. 465 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: So that's something that could really affect our receiver and 466 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: his you know. But now that I got the opportunity 467 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: to really you know, had a healthy season, you know, 468 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: being able to be that Nomber one receiver, be that. 469 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: Number one option, and be able to. 470 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: Get put into a great position to be able to 471 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: perform the way I've done. You know, you know that's 472 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: that's all the receiver could ask for for real. 473 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. I already know the type of 474 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: season you're gonna have. You you're gonna build off what 475 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: you did last year, and it all comes down to 476 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: being not only consistent, but when you are consistent, consistency 477 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: bring confidence and based on where you're from, you already 478 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: know what happens when we feel in confident and it's 479 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: time to play football. So I'm excited for you. I'm 480 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: excited for what you guys are going to do with 481 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and in Chador Gabriel people, whoever it is, 482 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: whoever's it the hell to me. Knowing what you can 483 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: do at the receiver position, you make everyone else in 484 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: job around you easy. I've said that to you and 485 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 2: in person. I said it to you, you know before 486 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: in general. So this season coming up, are there any 487 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: goals that you've already set long term, short term, whatever 488 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: it may be, numbers numbers wise, you don't have to 489 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: say anything specific. I just I just want to know 490 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: what goals you had this upcoming season for you individually. 491 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: Honestly, one of my biggest goals for is just having 492 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 3: a winning season. You know, That's that's something that I 493 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: haven't really done since entering the entering the league, you know, 494 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: never reached the playoffs. 495 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: You know, that's one of my biggest goals. 496 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: So having a winning season and be able to reach 497 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: the playoffs, that's something I'm truly working hard toils and 498 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 3: just being better than I was last year. You know, 499 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: I had a great season last year, finished six and 500 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: receiving yards and I'm still trying to trace that number 501 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: one spot and you know, and I ain't gonna stop 502 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 3: till I get there. 503 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I like that Jue you mentioned. You mentioned like when 504 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: you're in Denver, there are a lot of moving parts. 505 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of quarterback the quarterbacks in and out. 506 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: You had a lot of offensive you know, offense schemes. 507 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: Now it might be a similar situation. You got Joe Flacco, 508 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: who's the veteran. You got Kenny Pickett, they drafted Dylan Gabriel, 509 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: the drafted Shador Sanders. Has everybody stood out to you 510 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, this this this might be my quarterback. 511 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: Then I might be starting with him. I mean, if anything, 512 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: have you noticed anything, has anybody stood out there? 513 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 3: You know, I feel like we got a great the 514 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: biggest thing that you know, I'm thinking thankful for just 515 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: having ah for a great quarterbacks. 516 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: You know, that's go out there and compete every day. 517 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: That's that, you know, Hey, come on with that, man. Yeah, 518 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: I'm telling you what it is. 519 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 4: Man. 520 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: You know, we got four great quarterbacks. Man, they all 521 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: been doing their thing for real. So you know, I'm 522 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: just you know, my job is to make him easy. 523 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 3: Whoever after him, you know, I'm just gonna get open 524 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 3: for him and you know, build my thing for real. 525 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: I don't got no control of that man, whoever the 526 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: coaches choosing, whoever they picked to be a quarterback. You know, 527 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just making sure to make their job 528 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: easier when they throw me the ball. 529 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 2: You know, I want to know. I'm listening right now. 530 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: I got sneakers in there because I love this young boy. 531 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: I love him watching him play. He's he's easy, He's 532 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: a technician. What is it like going against God Damn 533 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: Denzel Ward. That's what I want to know that he 534 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: can pay. He can play some ball man off. It 535 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 2: don't matter what it is, made nasty with it. 536 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, there's a great DV. 537 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 3: You know, he's one of the few guys that really 538 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: know how to like be so be patient without using 539 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: his hands, be in front of you without his hands. 540 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: So you know, that's that's one thing that really separated 541 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: himself from from his skill set. You know, a lot 542 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: of guys that don't use just don't use their hand 543 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: really kind of struggles. So he got sweet, you know, 544 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: great awareness when the balls in the air, you know, 545 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: and he'll scrapy dude for sure. 546 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: You know he's a real ball player. 547 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I like them. 548 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: Look there. I mean obviously you mentioned that you dealt 549 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: with some injuries, you dealt with the quarterback play was 550 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: not up the part, and where you were in Denver, 551 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: you had a lot of different schemes and Steve Smith Junior, 552 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: who's a friend of the show, you and him had 553 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: some words back and forth. Have you guys have have 554 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: you guys been able to work out your differences behind 555 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: the scene? Honestly? 556 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: Nah, you know, man, you know, I ain't. It is 557 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: what it is, man, I ain't really too stressed about 558 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: that is old news, you know. You know he's things 559 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 3: in the past, Man, I said some things in the past, 560 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 3: you know, But my goals always approved. I know who 561 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: I am at the end of the day, you know, 562 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 3: and I you know, I proved it last year too, 563 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: So I ain't really I ain't really focused on none 564 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: of that. 565 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Man, that's old news to me. Real. Yeah. When I 566 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: watch you at when I watch you at Alabama, obviously 567 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: there are a bunch of talented guys. You win the 568 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: Bolitanakop Award in your sophomore season, you win the National Championship. 569 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you caught the game, what the 570 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: game went in touchdown where the game. I think you 571 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: got the lead against the SEC championship a gift Georgia. 572 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: I think winning that with Jalen Hurts came in and 573 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: threw you the ball and you made the day. Yeah, 574 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: yeah that was what was that? 575 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: That was yeah twenty eighteen, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 576 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: And so I'm looking at I'm looking at you at 577 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: j and I'm like, man, technically sound can run and something. 578 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: But for me sometimes I'm like, damn, dude, you try 579 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: to do too ahead. Man, just shake the man and 580 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: going about your busies. You ain't got to shake it 581 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: three times. I mean, you already made him look bad. 582 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: You ain't just go ahead, this just the one time, 583 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: Just just poop on it one time and go on 584 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: about your business. Do you do you do you have? 585 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a clock that gotta go off. Whether 586 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: you're running it out, you're running the inn, you're running 587 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: a comeback, you're running the hook, It don't matter. There's 588 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: a clock. How you when you go out there. And 589 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: let's say denzil War you had great competition in college 590 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: because you had pascertained. You had to deal with him 591 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: in college, and I'll be damn if he ain't come 592 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: join you in different So you got an opportunity to 593 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: work with one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. 594 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: So you when you're going out there and somebody lines 595 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: up across from you and you have a certain route, 596 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: tell me what's going to tell Tell our listeners, uh, 597 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: and our viewers what's going through your first? 598 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: You know, I just gotta you know, you gotta know 599 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: to play. Know where I'm at on the field, you know. First, 600 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: Then I once I line up, you know, I look 601 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: at the safety, see see where the covers at, you know, 602 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: look at the safety. Then I look at the leverage 603 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: of the dB in front of me. Depending on my route. 604 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: Then I just think about the technique of how I'm 605 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: gonna run this route, depending on if it's a slant 606 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: and the outside leverages, I'm gonna am I gonna spray 607 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: him to attack his leverage and make him think I 608 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: want to go outside and get underneath, or if he's 609 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: outside inside of me, if I'm gonna or I'm gonna 610 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: just quit jib and take it in. You know, you know, 611 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: just a lot of different things that just go through 612 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: my mind. You know, if that don't if those don't work, 613 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: you know, it's reaction after that. 614 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: M Hey, how much freedoms you now that you've had 615 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: a great season last year? Most of the time you 616 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: have officer coordinators. They call plays or they have places 617 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: to call. They want their schemes run exactly how they 618 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: how they're drawing up on paper. How much freedom are 619 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: you allowed. 620 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: To do. 621 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: Things your way? Just a little bit, Like obviously, when 622 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: you have a certain route, you're supposed to be plus two, 623 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: do they let you achieve the split a little bit? 624 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: Just to throw the DV off so he doesn't know 625 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: what's coming. Because most of the time it's all about 626 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: reading and understanding based on what you see in watching 627 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 2: film and most of the time everybody just lines up 628 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: in the same spot. The only thing that throws things 629 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: on off is the formations are different. Do they give 630 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: you a little freedom of change your splits and play 631 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: with things a little bit now that you know the offense? 632 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons I had 633 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: success in in Cleveland, just they let me out there 634 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: and let me be free. They know that I understand 635 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: the game pretty well. They know how I know how 636 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: to beat leverages. I know what they want in the offense, 637 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: know where they want me to get to, and I 638 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: feel like that would that would cause me to have success, 639 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: you know. So Coach Stefanski and the coaching staff did 640 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: a great job and just allow me to play my game, 641 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: you know, and just be able to win on every 642 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 3: route they want me to run. They know I know 643 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: how to run every route in the rock treet, you know, 644 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: they know I could get open, so they allow me 645 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: to do that. 646 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: That's lie, That's dope, that's dope. 647 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: There used to be one time, Jude that Alabama was 648 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: the unquestioned wide receiver. You now you got LSU said, 649 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: they lay claimed to that you got Ohio State lay 650 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: claim to that, So who has the real why receive? 651 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: You know, I'm always stay bused and stay two of 652 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: my teammates Imabama twenty four seven. I ain't gonna never 653 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: change up. You know, It's always gonna be Alabama. But now, 654 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: Freido l S. You've been putting out some guys a house. 655 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: They got some great guys in the league, you know, 656 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: and guys coming up, you know, like the god Jamiah Smith. 657 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's a lot of great talent out 658 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: there for show. But you know, Alabama wna always be 659 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: on top. 660 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: All right, what you got gonna say? 661 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: I mean it it went, It went Alabama, and Alabama 662 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: had a string on back to back on. They had 663 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: a cause. 664 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: You know, they came with Julio and they came with 665 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: they came to Cabal Ridley, and then they got you 666 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: and they got Rugs and they got Waddle and they 667 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: got Davonte Smith. So they had a run and then 668 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: Lsu they came back. He come, He come Jeda, and 669 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: he come Chase and come Elik Neighbors and he come 670 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Jr. And Ohio State said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? 671 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: What about Barren Harrison what about Jackson Jig, what about 672 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: Gary Wilson? What about the guy in New Orleans? I 673 00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: forget his name? What's his name? 674 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: Christal Lobby? 675 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: Christal Lobby? They whoa, whoa, whoa, we got a we ain. 676 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: We gotta raise. 677 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: Is Ohio State might take that torch back once Jeremiah 678 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: Smith come out in two years. 679 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: Now, he got one more year. He got this one 680 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: the next year. Years yeah, yeah, this one the next year. Yeah. 681 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean cold real Florida. 682 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: Boy, that was cold. Yeah, you ask you that? Why Alabama? 683 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean you got Miami, you got Florida. Yeah, I 684 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: mean they're there. I mean you got U Florida State, 685 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean l s U, I mean Ohio State. 686 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: What made you decide to choose Alabama? One reason was, 687 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: you know, I truly didn't want to stay home. You know, 688 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: I've been home like that, home is home. I just 689 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: wanted to experience something, something different, you know, Alabama. I 690 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: never expected Alabama. You know, Alabama was just a team 691 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: that just like it was just in my heart. Alabama 692 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: was the right spot for me. 693 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: You know. And I grew up watching Amora Cooper, you know, 694 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: I play with I forgot about Coop Yeah, Coop. 695 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: Girl watching tomorrow Cooper, you know, and I play with 696 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: Calm Ridley and I see all the hardworking, great things 697 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: they did up there at Alabama, you know, and I 698 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: felt like I could do the same thing once I 699 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: get up there. So, you know, thank god I chose 700 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: Alabama for real. 701 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you guys get an opportunity to go back 702 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: because you see, like in basketball, you see the Duke players, 703 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: they go back and they work. They go back to 704 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: Duke and they work. Do Alabama do the receiver? Did 705 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: y'all get a chance to go back down to Alabama 706 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: and and help Because I was talking to Ozzie knew 707 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: someone who was a great wide receiver turned into a 708 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: great tight end, went to the Hall of Fame and 709 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: now he's the Hall of Fame exec. He said, their job, 710 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: He said, what we tell the guys is each one 711 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: teach one. So if you leave, you come back and 712 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: you got to tell them, Hey, this is what we expect, 713 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: this is how we do things. This is how we 714 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: continue the great play at exposition. If you guys do 715 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: something like that in Alabama. 716 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: I haven't been back to Alabama since like our rookie year, 717 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: you know, and you know it's different now the love 718 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: the whole coach just have thing. Coaching stuff'ne changed, you know, 719 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 3: so it's different, different coaches. I do need to go 720 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: back out there, you know, and just you know, say 721 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 3: some things. But you know, I never had a chance 722 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: to really go back out there. 723 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: I like you. 724 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: You much. 725 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: How many how long y'all got before y'all go to camp? 726 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: You got about another week or two weeks? 727 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were back on the twenty second. Man, We're 728 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 3: right back to it. Man, I'm ready for the grind. 729 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: Oh you got it. You got a few days? Okay, okay, okay, okay. 730 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, right back in. Yeah, it won't be it won't 731 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: be long. It won't be long. Jude, thanks man, thank 732 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: you for joining us man continued success. Glad you're healthy. Man. Hey, 733 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad you got somewhere because, like I said, I 734 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: was very high on you when you came out. I 735 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: thought you were phenomenal. The way you could beat man coverage, 736 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: the way you set routes up, You run a route 737 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: with anticipation, like I still got something in my back 738 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: pocket in case I needed a later day and time. 739 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: And uh, but I'm glad. I wish you wish we 740 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: could have had stability at the quarterback position, which we 741 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: could have had stability at the head coaching position. And 742 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: you're doing what you're doing in Cleveland. You could have 743 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: done that for the Broncos. But hey, I'm happy to 744 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: see you doing well. I'm happy to see see you 745 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: achieve what I always knew you had it. 746 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: Thank you for you have a good season at Denzel 747 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: Ward Man, he don't want no smoke with me either. 748 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: Man, even that's whatever, you. 749 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: Still got it. 750 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: I've seen that you still got a little son. 751 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 2: Huh. 752 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: You know I was a DV back in my days now, 753 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: So don't don't don't let me get. 754 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 2: Don't do it to yourself. Well, let me next year, 755 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: next year, put your put your shoes on. Then I'll 756 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: be back out there next year. 757 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see you all bet all right, congratulations man, 758 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: continue success and uh after that season you come back 759 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: and you lead the league in reception of receiving yards, 760 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: come back in Hollers on night. Can sure we'll do 761 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: all right. Appreciate it. Bro. Jerry Judy made his very 762 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: first Pro Bowl last year. Guys, he was six and 763 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: receiving yards had his breakout season guys, he said, the 764 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: thing that contributed that he got consistent quarterback play and 765 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: he was able to do some big things because I 766 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: thought he was phenomenal coming out of the University of Alabama. 767 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: And so it's always great to see guys be able 768 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: to transition, to take what they've been able to do 769 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: in college and then transition and carry that over into 770 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: the NFL. O Joe. So it was glad to see 771 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: him start to live up to the potential and the 772 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: ability that we knew he possessed. And now he's getting 773 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity to shine. 774 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: And can we know the good thing about it too, 775 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: you already know even as a player, is that even 776 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: as a player, when things aren't going well somewhere else, 777 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: just in general. Obviously you were in Denver for a 778 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: very long time but had bad down but you start 779 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: questioning yourself when other aspects around you aren't going well. 780 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: And but once you find once you find that rhythm 781 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: in that confidence, and most of the time, a change 782 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: the scenery does it for you. A change the senioryduds 783 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: for you. All of a sudden you find that same 784 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 2: consistency and success that you had in college at the 785 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 2: next level. Once that confident kicks in. It's lights out. 786 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 2: It never goes backwards. It rarely goes backwards. 787 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Competence is key when you when you play a sport. 788 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: When you play a sport, competence is everything because it's 789 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: a competition. I mean, it's me against you. Yep. I 790 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: gotta believe that I'm better than you. I gotta believe 791 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm the baddest dude on this field. Even if you 792 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: not believe it, you better think it. You better believe it. Yep. 793 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: Unsigned Bengals draft pick Shamar Stewart is believed to keep 794 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: it to be keeping all of his options open O 795 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: shoe amidstar NFL contract negotiations, Texas A and M coach 796 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: Mike Elko indicated that those options do not include a 797 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: return to college station, but said he's been training with 798 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: the team. Shamar has been around. He's very comfortable in 799 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: our program, really likes what we do training wise, and 800 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: he's been training getting ready for the season this year 801 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: with the Bengals. We wish him the best. Stewart is 802 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: the only first round draft pick from the twenty twenty 803 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: twenty five draft class who has yet to sign. 804 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, this is at this point is confusing me, 805 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 2: and I'm going to need a little clarification from you 806 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 2: on what is exactly going on, because I thought I 807 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 2: understood at first, but now I'm not understanding now that 808 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: this drug out with camp for the rookies, if not mistaken, 809 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: starting in two days today's seventeen, correct, right, if I'm 810 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: not mistaken. The Bengals report you like July nineteen, and 811 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: the Veterans reporting of the twenty second. So I'm not 812 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 2: sure how it's been drawn out to this point, and 813 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 2: just give me, give me another pairaphrase on why he 814 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: hasn't signed the contract. 815 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: What they want to do. The Bengals want to put 816 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: language in his contract. Okay, you get guaranteed, So basically 817 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: the contract is guaranteed. So they're trying to put up 818 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: a vision if he does something at any point, it 819 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: could nullify all the guaranteed money he's supposed to get. 820 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: So if I do something in twenty twenty five, it 821 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: could nullify the guaranteed money I'm supposed to get in 822 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, And it said, no, 823 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: we're not gonna start that press. 824 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I see, I see what you're saying. So Okay, 825 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: so you're trying to protect all the money for the 826 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: four seering future. 827 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: Now if I because if we allow you to do that, 828 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: then you know what comes, it's a copycat lead. Then 829 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: all the other team's gonna start putting that I put 830 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: that language in. 831 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 2: The agent, what I would what I would love to do, 832 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: and if even as a player, I would also agree 833 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 2: to this. Well, if I mess up in twenty twenty five, 834 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: you're not taking nothing long term. Now if I mess 835 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: up long term. 836 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: But if they put that language in this contract, that's 837 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: exactly what they would do. That's why you are signed. 838 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I would go back to them and 839 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 2: have it a year by year thing, not me doing 840 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 2: it one time, and everything for going for the future 841 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: is taken as well. 842 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: Well, it's already it's already in their contract detrimental to 843 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: the team, So we already know they can do that. 844 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: That's that's that's common practice. But they won't. They won't. 845 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: But see they trying to get off the hook. They 846 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: were like, nah, we're gonna you mess up, and we're 847 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: gonna take all we can potentially take all the game. 848 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: As much as as much as we try to try 849 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: to walk by faith. You know, as much as we 850 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: try to do the right thing, at times, we do 851 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: make mistakes when we're young. At times, you know, we 852 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 2: we do find ourselves in trouble as much as we 853 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: want to stay Yeah, for sure, if we want to 854 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 2: stay out of it. You know, I'm sure nobody tried 855 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: the purposely get themselves in trouble. But you do have 856 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 2: to protect yourself, just like the Bengals are trying to 857 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: protect themselves as well. So, I mean, obviously it sucks 858 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: that is that it's at this point. It sucks that 859 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 2: it's that a stalemate. But I'm hoping, I'm hoping at 860 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 2: some point they find some type of resolution and resolve 861 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 2: this so they can get young Bully in camp so 862 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: we can help make a difference for us defensively. 863 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: Well, we got someone joining us earlier tonight. O Yo. 864 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: We Gotjimmy Horn Jr. Who was the wide receiver out 865 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: of the University of Colorado. Had had a half speed. 866 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: We could see like when he get the ball in 867 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: his hands. Hey, good luck trying to get him on 868 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: the ground. Jimmy, thanks for joining us. Man, Yes, Jimmy 869 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: was why were you at. 870 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 4: Carolina? 871 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 2: Okay? 872 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh y'all getting ready to go to camp. What tomorrow? Nah? 873 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: We start back up Monday, mony start make mondey Okay. Look, 874 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: word on the street, there's like one of the most 875 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: impressive young guys in camp is Jimmy Horn junr. Why 876 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: have you? Why and how have you been able to 877 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: have such great success that you're a six round draft pick? 878 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: And you know, they got to have a first They 879 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: took a receiver McMillan. They took him in the first round. 880 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: They have Xavier Leggett. 881 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 4: Uh. 882 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: They got what's the guy uh oho from uh from Minnesota? 883 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: Adam Adam feeling. They got feeling. How have you been 884 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: able to make a name for yourself so so so quick? Jimmy, Man, it's. 885 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 4: Really like a mentality, man, Like I just come out there, 886 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 4: like I know personally that don't really that so lot. 887 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: I just go out there. I like that. Man. 888 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 4: I just go out there with a confidence you feel 889 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 4: me in And I really just learned from the guys 890 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 4: that headed me, you know, just picking the game and 891 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 4: just coming out there being myself, you know, and then 892 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 4: every day I just come to practice hard. You feel 893 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 4: me like that just part of the game. 894 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: I know, that because in the program that you was in, lad, 895 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: did you land for a couple of years? Coach Prime, he' 896 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: a worker. He believes in working hard, but he also 897 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: believes it's stilling confidence and his players and you round him, 898 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: it's hard not to be confident. And it seems to 899 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: me if listening to you talk, you're like, I'm him. Yeah, 900 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: I know they took me in the sixth round, but 901 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: y'all don't see why they should have took me higher. Yeah. 902 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: The funny thing about it for those that are in 903 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 2: the chat that are watching, if you know football, if 904 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: you understand the game, especially to receive a position, you 905 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 2: already know Jimmy Hornk was not a sixth round type 906 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 2: of player. Now we talk about a round one, a 907 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 2: round two based on the skill setting, his ability to 908 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 2: run routs, create separation, and what he can do once 909 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: he got the ball in his hands. But listen, this 910 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 2: is a good thing. If they took you in the 911 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 2: sixth round, that man, you get to get to the 912 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: bag even faster. Though, You get to get to the 913 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 2: bag even faster, so you know, don't trip. I just 914 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: want to know is how has the transition been. What 915 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 2: is the difference between being at Colorado and now being 916 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 2: a Carolina Panther. I mean what has been uh, I 917 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 2: want to say, the most difficult thing to learn so far. 918 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 4: Really has been that playboy. Man, it's been that playboff Sure, 919 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 4: it's like really like, yeah, the way Coach Prime ran 920 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 4: the program, he was already kind of similar to like 921 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 4: how they run it in the NFL. So it's kind 922 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 4: of similar in that way as the schemes and stuff 923 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 4: like being ran, but the players, the terminology is like 924 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 4: learning the whole other language that you already know. 925 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: All that burbage. 926 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 4: Yeah too much, and. 927 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: You got to be on it because ain't ain't no 928 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: pick up because we put we install it. We installed 929 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: one day. Guess what. We got a hole set of 930 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: plays the next day, and we got a hole set 931 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: of players the next day, and we got a hole 932 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: set of places today. So if you fall behind dead 933 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: Fly exactly, you said something, but I heard you say 934 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: something earlier. You say like Coach Prime kind of ran 935 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: a lot of this how so, so help us understand 936 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: how his Coach Prime. Because Coach Prime come you know, 937 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: even though he came with a with a pro background. 938 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: You look at a lot of his coaches, they were 939 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: pro coaches, and so how has that helped transition? You 940 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: mentioned transition as fast as you've been able to do. 941 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: How coach prime coaching style, his system, his discipline, everything 942 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: about it because it's a pro style. Because he's gotten 943 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: getting guys that are good enough to get to the 944 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: next level, he's getting them prepared for that. 945 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 4: I said, it's really like the biggest kid is really 946 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 4: like doing the little things right. You know what I'm saying. 947 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 4: That's from going to class, making she agree, is right? 948 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, showing up the practice over time, 949 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 4: making sure your salts are certain, la, you know what 950 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like a little small things and once you 951 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 4: get them down pack it made transitioning easier. 952 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I get. 953 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: They just did Carolina draft to McMillan, number one draft 954 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: pick out of the University of Arizona. What's it like, 955 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: Xavier Leggat. I mean we mentioned Adam Thieling. Now you 956 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: and and because of the buzz that you created for yourself, 957 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: you know they gonna they gonna want to see what 958 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: you They want to see what you got come a preseason, 959 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: so you're gonna probably get you gonna probably get a 960 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: lot of burn. Are you excited? They're like, man, I 961 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: mean it's kind of it's you like, I'm in the NFL. 962 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: But if you really get your NFL moment until you 963 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: going against other guys and you see them you got 964 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: your Carolina helmet on and they got their team's helmet on, 965 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I'm really in the NFL. Okay, 966 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: it's still football. Let me let me go show up 967 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: with a Yeah. 968 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 4: See, I ain't get that afeelingate like right now, I'm 969 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 4: at the more like I ain't satisfied with like one 970 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 4: mat you feel me. So I just like, I'm real 971 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 4: excited to get out there, you know what I'm saying, Like, 972 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 4: especially missing missing the uh the last training camp, I'm 973 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 4: just ready to get back out there and just showing 974 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 4: what I could really do. You know what I'm saying. 975 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 4: I got so much potential left for my game. I 976 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 4: ain't at least all love yet. So that's what I'm 977 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 4: That's what I'm most excited to show. 978 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. 979 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: So what's what's the difference between an NFL wide receiver 980 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: room and a collegiate. 981 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 4: It's the debt for sure. They ain't taking all them 982 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 4: guys out there on that, but like you gotta you 983 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 4: gotta find a way out that you gotta find a way. 984 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 2: Rtter of fact. 985 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: But it seemed like it seemed like early on, Jimmy 986 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: you did the next little job because after like the 987 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: first day of camp, the most impressive rookie with Jimmy 988 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: Horn Jr. And And from that point on. I don't 989 00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: know how much of the paper you read out of 990 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: know how much you watch again on social media, But 991 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: did you hear the buzz that you had created for yourself? 992 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? 993 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 4: I seen it many time. Scroller do TETs. I just 994 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 4: keep saying different plucks and stuff for me, But like 995 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 4: you know, I try not to try not let that 996 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 4: stuff get to me. You know what I'm saying. I 997 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 4: ain't playing no real game. Yeah, I feel like I 998 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 4: ain't doing nothing yet. 999 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 2: But listen to this. The way you look in practice, 1000 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 2: the way you practice, the way you practice, and what 1001 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 2: people see in practice is gonna be the same exact 1002 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: thing on games. They listen. I ain't trying toot you 1003 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 2: on because you're here because I said the same thing 1004 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 2: when I seen you that goddamn in Colorado. When you 1005 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 2: can run route, when you already polish. The funny thing is, 1006 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: this is why they was raving by them when they 1007 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 2: got to Carolina is because he's already polished as a receiver. 1008 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: So he coming in and he coming from Colorado, so 1009 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 2: they expected him to look a certain way. And then 1010 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 2: with goddamn, why is he popping out looking different from 1011 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 2: everybody else? I mean that that need to hear. 1012 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: No they are. 1013 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 2: But like you said, you ain't at least what you 1014 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 2: want to yet. Obviously you missed the previous training camp 1015 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: on Yeah, but you got the man. You're gonna be 1016 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 2: straight man, You're gonna be streaked. I have seen it. 1017 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: I know what it's supposed to look like, and you 1018 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: just played that already. All you got to do now 1019 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 2: with the light song, just do what you normally do. 1020 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 2: It ain't no different. 1021 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: Sure, well you have an outstate your quarterback with the 1022 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: number one overall draft pick. Two years ago, this would 1023 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: be his third year. You know, things didn't go as 1024 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 1: well as he had hope, but he got his rhythm. 1025 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: He got an opportunity to sit and watch. What's it 1026 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: been like working with Bryce Young? 1027 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 4: And it's been a pleasure to work with Bryce. You know, 1028 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 4: like picking Bryce's brain. Bryce smart, man, And like Bryce's 1029 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 4: real smart, and like he know the game. He can 1030 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 4: break it down to you. And Bryce he really accurate too. 1031 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: Man. 1032 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 4: He's nice, he real nice. 1033 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 1: Your former teammate, the world watched you win the sixth round, 1034 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: but your teammates should do it. Your quarterback had a 1035 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: phenomenal season, had phenomenal two seasons at the University of Colorado. 1036 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: But you watched him slide because the first round and 1037 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: then you see the second round, and do you see 1038 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: the third round, and do you see the fourth round 1039 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: in the fifth round. At any point in time when 1040 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: he's going through that process, do you reach out? Did 1041 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 1: you send him a text like hey, bro, keep your 1042 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: head up anything like that. 1043 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 4: Oh, not that I remember, But like when I was 1044 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 4: watching it with more peoples and stuff, we just sitting 1045 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 4: there watching it, like dang, dang, that's all he was saying, Dan, 1046 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 4: that's all crazy. But it's all right. Do you know 1047 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 4: everything you have for a reason, God got playing with 1048 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 4: each person. 1049 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 1: Well. Today ESPN released their corner rankings, voted on by coaching, 1050 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: scouts and executives. Number one rated cornerback with Pats or 1051 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: Tan the second Number two Darryl Stingley Jr. Number three, 1052 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: Denzel Ward number four, Trent McDuffie number five, Sauces Gardener 1053 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: number six, Christian Gonzalez, see J. C. Horn, Jalen Johnson, 1054 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: quin Yon, Mitchell, Devon Witherspoon. Of those names, which one 1055 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: you sided and say, hey, come on, get this work? 1056 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, talk that ship? 1057 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 4: What real? 1058 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: All real? Because you are you one of them? In 1059 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 1: your teammate Jac's on the list, he's number seven. So 1060 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some great work every day. 1061 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 4: Practice that gonna worry every day? 1062 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: Man? 1063 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 4: That what Connor worry every day? 1064 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: Hey? 1065 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 2: That that that'll be fun. 1066 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: I wish I had your schedule. Pull up a schedule 1067 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 1: to see how many of these guys on the list 1068 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: that you're gonna actually go again? Now those are the 1069 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: ten best that just don't think just because you don't 1070 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: see somebody name up there. Don't make the mistake that 1071 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: I made. I made the mistake of you know, I 1072 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: undemestimated someone right, And when I left the game, I 1073 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: had three kedues from fourteen yards. I said, I never 1074 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: made that mistake again. Oh Joe, I said, I never 1075 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 1: make that mistake again. So yay, you respect everyone you 1076 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: underestimate no one and you will be just fine, right 1077 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: because if you're in this league, everybody in this league 1078 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: can make everybody else in this league look bad. 1079 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1080 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: What what are you expecting? What are you hoping for 1081 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 1: your rookie year? What's the what? What would Jimmy Horn Jr. 1082 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 1: Equate to a successful rookie campaign. 1083 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 4: For my rookie year? I got it in a note 1084 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 4: right here, off and the. 1085 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: Real my team, that's what I want to hear, come 1086 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: on with it like so. 1087 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 4: Like for my own field goals, like when I catch 1088 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 4: my first NFL pass, I want to stat from there 1089 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 4: and get a minimum of two hundred and fifty yards. 1090 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying for Just to start off 1091 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 4: zero draws and then prefet the rock tree, okay, and 1092 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 4: uh score my first NFL test now and make sure 1093 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 4: makes shaw I'm an adult with the rotation. And then 1094 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,399 Speaker 4: for the turn goals Locke Morol Laying as a part 1095 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 4: return or kid return one take at least one return 1096 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 4: to the crib and then on trying to be at 1097 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 4: least top five foreverage for return average and no fund 1098 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 4: was on the return. And then for like mentioning, I 1099 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 4: just want to be prepared for whatever come all week. 1100 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm like that, already got some goals down. Uh, you 1101 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: go get Christian Gunzales is on your schedule. Sauts Gardner 1102 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: is on your schedule. Devin Witherspoon is on your schedule. 1103 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,479 Speaker 1: So a couple of the guys that's on that list, 1104 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: you get an opportunity to see them. 1105 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 2: And you want to do them. You want to do 1106 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 2: them a real solid you know, as a as a 1107 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 2: I'm here before the week before you play each one, right, 1108 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: Jimmy shipping boys a signed jersey. You to the stadium 1109 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 2: and address it to them. Make sure you're saying that 1110 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 2: bitch no more yeah, sign yes, sign it, and like 1111 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: ahead of the game, give them a little gear, right. 1112 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah you got a nice little You got a 1113 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: nice little thing. But I like that. I like you 1114 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: are you already got your thing that I didn't. I 1115 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,919 Speaker 1: didn't write no lists down until I got it on a camp. 1116 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 1: I like, hell, my number one thing would make the team. 1117 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: Let's start with that. All the all these goals they 1118 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 1: tell me, Hey man, I got my goal, sit down. 1119 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: My goal is to make the team. I get an 1120 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: other stuff I'll write out of the other stuff. Down 1121 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,439 Speaker 1: a little later later they died. 1122 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 4: That's for shore number one on my list, made that 1123 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 4: for sure. 1124 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: Uh well, Jimmy, thanks for joining us. Man, congratulations are 1125 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: great o, stellar college career. Gett an opportunity to go 1126 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. Now your journey, hey, them in 1127 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: going to the NFL. Your journey starts all over again. 1128 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: So good luck, stay healthy and when you get an 1129 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,399 Speaker 1: opportunity to come back and talk to your favorite uncle 1130 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: and oo a man, my last thing now, ma, let 1131 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: me go in and get up off therefore, I get it. 1132 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: Cutting now what you want? What you want to say? 1133 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm saying do We're all on him? Manh world. 1134 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: We got how many people we got the chat? 1135 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 2: About nine thousand? 1136 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got about nine ten thousand of the chat. 1137 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 4: Hey, what y'all think is the perfect time to get 1138 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 4: you a lady in the league? 1139 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no no. 1140 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Did you have her 1141 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: before you got to the league? A couple of the 1142 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: couple of the deck. Cuse you gotta left it. You 1143 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: gotta let what go. 1144 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 4: Shoot one on the processing elimination. 1145 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: Hey no, don't don't even do it. 1146 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 2: Don't even do it. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, don't don't, 1147 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 2: don't do it. 1148 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: Don't do it. Hey, you know what, We're gonna get 1149 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: your talk off. He don't do it. We do you 1150 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: off playing. 1151 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 2: I know, don't do it. 1152 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 4: Literally, I just I just threw that out as a message. 1153 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 2: Listen, it's all to it. You know. Every time I 1154 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 2: feel I know you're going with it, but walk in, 1155 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 2: don't don't do it. Had your fun nothing serious. This 1156 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 2: comes first, your girl. Your lady is a panther and 1157 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 2: everything that comes with it, fights and everything that come 1158 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 2: with it. 1159 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 4: That's it. 1160 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 1: So Jimmy, congratulations man, getting drafted, going to the Carolina Panthers. 1161 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: Best of luck this season, Stay healthy and come back 1162 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 1: and talk to it soon. Bro. 1163 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 2: All right, for sure, appreciate it. 1164 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy, Yes, Sir, Jimmy Horn Jr. Carolina Panther former. See you, 1165 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo oh Cho Chargers Mike Williams retires after eight seasons. 1166 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: Williams the number seven overall draft pick in twenty seventeen 1167 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: by the Chargers. In eight seasons, he had three hundred 1168 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: and thirty receptions fifty one hundred yards thirty two touchdowns, 1169 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: definitely showcase the tone of the town. But the injuries 1170 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,760 Speaker 1: just seemed to he could he seemed like he couldn't 1171 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: stay healthy for an extended period of time. Oh Joe, 1172 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: you look, I started as receiver, you finished your career, 1173 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: moved the tight end. When did you know it was 1174 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: time to When did you know it was time to 1175 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: hang out? Well? 1176 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I ain't really I ain't ship well, I 1177 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 2: ain't really had no choice but to hang it up, 1178 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 2: you know. He You know, they. 1179 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: All things being equal, you would have you would have 1180 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: loved to try to continue. 1181 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,760 Speaker 2: I did, obviously. I went to Canada. I went to Canada, 1182 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,280 Speaker 2: and I wanted to finish my way. Uh. I enjoyed 1183 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 2: my time in Canada. It was it was eye opening 1184 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 2: because I expected one thing or people said one thing 1185 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 2: about the Canadian Football League and that I actually got there. 1186 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, y'all lied to me. The 1187 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,800 Speaker 2: people down here in the States, y'all lied to me. 1188 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,720 Speaker 2: Because every week playing in Canada, whether it was Ottawa, 1189 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 2: whether it was Canada, where it was, uh, Calgary, every 1190 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 2: every week, every week I don't playing the NFL for 1191 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 2: eleven years, and every week while I'm up there in Canada, 1192 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm seeing dudes that belong in the NFL. Now, y'all 1193 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 2: told me. I thought it was, you know, supposed to 1194 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 2: be easy. And I'm just gonna go out there and just. 1195 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,439 Speaker 1: Man, she dominated. Man. 1196 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 2: Please for them young bulls out there in the Canadian League. 1197 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 2: The only reason they're not down here in the NFL 1198 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 2: is because of the numbers, because of politics, because of 1199 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 2: certain situations that might have happened in college, not getting 1200 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 2: the right opportunity, not getting the call. There's really there's 1201 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 2: really no difference on and I'm saying this is very respectfully, 1202 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 2: but uh, you know, my time was different. Obviously, when 1203 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 2: when it was when it's time to hang it up, 1204 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 2: I had to go obviously go to canadon and and 1205 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 2: and finish one year and lead the game so I 1206 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 2: could be at peace with myself. 1207 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: I think the thing is, though, show, is that you 1208 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: didn't really have like injuries. The injuries didn't wear you down. 1209 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: You didn't have me a c L shoulder. 1210 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 2: I can't straighten it out. 1211 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: Look, yeah, but you don't run on your hands. You 1212 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: ain't a monkey. But anyway, so you you, I mean, 1213 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: you were good. But I think the thing might we 1214 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 1: seemed like, I mean, you talk about. I mean, big 1215 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: physical receiver, can run, could catch as a night. 1216 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 2: Eight twenty, his jump balls eighty twenty every time with 1217 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 2: his first with the charges. Man, just put it up. 1218 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: It's just healthy. It just is helped. And you know 1219 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: it's hat man. Being injured, being hurt, It wears on 1220 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: you emotionally, forget the physical aspect of it. It starts 1221 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: to mess with you here because you start to question yourself. Man, 1222 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: am I ever gonna be healthy? Is this? Is this 1223 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: the fate? That is this what I'm gonna be resigned to? 1224 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: Like damn, I know I'm better than this. And as 1225 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 1: soon as you like, you put again a game or 1226 00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 1: two or three, putt a little stress together. 1227 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 2: Hey, I wonder now that you said that, and the 1228 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 2: fact that I never had to face any type of adversity. 1229 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 2: I faced adversity in life, humh, you know, but never 1230 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 2: to the never to the point where it was bodily harmed, 1231 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 2: where something failed me. I had to work my way 1232 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 2: back into into playing shape. And I just I've never 1233 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 2: been challenged that way. So I wonder if I would 1234 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 2: have been able to do it. That's a that's a 1235 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 2: great question. Would I've been able to do it? Because 1236 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 2: could you imagine if I told my achillis you know, 1237 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 2: thank thank God? Or if I told my a cl 1238 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 2: and had to build myself back mentally, what I've been 1239 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 2: able to get back to a certain level of confidence 1240 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 2: or comfortability, being able to run and stop and transition 1241 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 2: and still having that same confidence idead and my approach 1242 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 2: to the game. I think it takes that. I think 1243 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 2: it took away everything my entertainment, the entertainment I bought 1244 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 2: the value that the trash talking because I I wouldn't 1245 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 2: have been the same. I would have just been a 1246 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 2: shelling myself. I got lucky. 1247 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: I got lucky. I don't even know. I think they 1248 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: lost one of their receivers. Didn't he end up going 1249 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: to Palmer? Didn't he end up going to Buffalo? Uh? 1250 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Of the receive Palmer the big dude? And he made 1251 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 2: some plays. He was making some plays. Yeah, I think 1252 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,439 Speaker 2: Palmer one number nine? 1253 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah seven? What? Yeah? 1254 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 2: I think he was a big dude. Mimi and kwam 1255 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 2: bolding a little bit. 1256 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmm uh hold on, let me see here, is 1257 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: it kJ Palmer or no? And oh Jo and he 1258 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: only thirty thirty years old? 1259 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 2: Damn, that's it. 1260 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: That's it. He'll be thirty one. 1261 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 2: And I told you this, a C must a CM 1262 01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 2: must still be bothering maybe maybe mentally he he he 1263 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 2: checked out mentally, Yeah, I mean because he was in 1264 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 2: New York. He wasn't that. I remember he had a 1265 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 2: little little issue, a little issue with Aaron Rodgers. 1266 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, and then you know, they ended up trading. 1267 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 1: I think he ended up getting traded to Pittsburgh, or 1268 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 1: at least I think he finished his career in Pittsburgh. 1269 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: In Pittsburgh, I mean his clearly his best days came 1270 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: with Chargers. The Chargers and justin. 1271 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 2: Him and Keenan Allen, boy, they was there was some 1272 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 2: months thursdaygether boy. 1273 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: They were big receiver six four two twenty dang it. 1274 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 2: With Josh Palmer. Josh Palmer with Josh Palmer right now 1275 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 2: where you say what you say? Went was making some 1276 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 2: good plays. Boy, he was nice. 1277 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Hold on, uh he's number number five? Yeah right, Oh 1278 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: he's still with it. No. Yeah, So they got a 1279 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: nice little squad. 1280 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 2: They got Kean Coleman Shakiir how you say it's like Shakira? 1281 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm. They got him, and you know, they 1282 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: got the two tight ends, Knox and k k damn. 1283 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: We don't know. If we don't know, if Cook, you 1284 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: know his situation with the contract, he wants a contract. 1285 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,479 Speaker 2: I don't know if they plan, they plan. I hate, 1286 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 2: I hate how they treat the running back position. And 1287 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 2: and Cook is one of those who's in that tier 1288 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,919 Speaker 2: one conversation where they shouldn't be any fuss or back 1289 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 2: and forth when it's time to pay him, because he's 1290 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 2: a very very very vital, vital piece that the goddamn offense. 1291 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 2: But I guarantee you I know how they view it. 1292 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 2: We view it when we have Josh Allen and you're replaceable. Okay, 1293 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 2: you're expendable. That's exactly That's exactly how they're viewing it. 1294 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 2: Because the quarterback is so god damn good. They feel, Okay, 1295 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 2: if we miss this piece, even as important as it is, 1296 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 2: we can make up for it with our quarterback play. 1297 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Oh look, didn't Mike Williams go back to Uh didn't 1298 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 1: he go back to the Chargers? Yeah? Wow? Like I said, oh, 1299 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,439 Speaker 1: your you know, sometimes you know, your body break down 1300 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 1: on you, and uh, you don't want to do it 1301 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: because we had a tearing arms he. 1302 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 2: Said, his knees bone on bone couldn't do it. 1303 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, you know, I don't want to do that. 1304 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 1: I believe that he said. 1305 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 2: When he told us they couldn't even practice, he couldn't 1306 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 2: even walk, so they let him mispractice. But when on 1307 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 2: game day, obviously he did whatever he need to do 1308 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 2: just to be able to play on game day. 1309 01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Take pain to take them pain pill toward 1310 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,840 Speaker 1: all shots injections, Oh Joe. NFL players to retire this 1311 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: offseason Derek Carr, Julio Jones, Patrick Peterson, Zach Martin, Frank Ragnow, 1312 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, Taron Armstead, Ryan Ramcheck, Jason Peters, Mike Williams, 1313 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: c J. Mosley and Donakin, Sue Brandon Graham, Sam Hubbard, 1314 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 1: David Andrews, michaelh. Hyde, Mason Crosby, Mitch Morris, Michael Pierce, 1315 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Kean o' reed, Neil Johnkey, Jordan Travis and Chris Connolly, 1316 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 1: Damn Well, Julio h o f Pat Peterson, Martin Thank, 1317 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,919 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, Jason Peters is gonna get some consideration because 1318 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: he've been there long long time, played at a very 1319 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 1: very high level. There are about three or four Hall 1320 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 1: of Famers on this lest O Joe you know, Pat 1321 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,439 Speaker 1: p and Julio were in the same draft. I think 1322 01:04:53,480 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: pat P was five, Julio was six. Yeah. 1323 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 2: But one thing about you know, we talked about whide 1324 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 2: receiver you who is DBU? Is DBU? Ohio State, LSU 1325 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 2: is the Alabama Yeah, I mean the conversation when it 1326 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 2: comes to receivers, they're much There are many more receivers 1327 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 2: than it is. DB's coming out of the school. But 1328 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 2: somebody has to be DBU. 1329 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: You think you got to be one of them? Who 1330 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: you got and I don't know, I don't know. I 1331 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,280 Speaker 1: mean because aj Green, aj Green? What what people was 1332 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: Aj Green for that Georgia though, huh Yeah, But I'm 1333 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: saying because you know he and Julio was in that 1334 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 1: twenty eleven draft with Cam and von Miller. All them 1335 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 1: was in that draft, Cam Hayward, all those guys, Richard Sherman, 1336 01:05:55,480 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Pat P, Julio, Jones, JJ Watt, Cam Hey with Cam 1337 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: Jordan's Yeah, all they was Rob I think Robert Quinn 1338 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 1: was in that with Robert Queen. I think Robert Quinn 1339 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: was in that draft. Justin Houston's number. 1340 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I remember just Houston was balling with the Chiefs 1341 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 2: by he who is who is the number one pick 1342 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 2: that here? You remember Cam? 1343 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: Cam was one? Bomb was too? Who was to oh? 1344 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Von Miller? Von Miller? Hey Cam? Do you have Marcel Darius? 1345 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,439 Speaker 1: And then I think I think A j Green went 1346 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 1: four and then Pat p and then Julioya. 1347 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 2: Man Camp should still be playing? How come all the 1348 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 2: other quarterback and get to play bump teen years? 1349 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Cam style? Man that style introducing for you, Playing that 1350 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: style of his style of player is not conducing for 1351 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: playing long. You can play great for the period of time. So, 1352 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 1: but running the football shortened your life. Your football So. 1353 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 2: Like like Lamar, Lamar's style of play, even though he's 1354 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,480 Speaker 2: smart with it, knowing when to get down, he's as 1355 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 2: a smaller frame. 1356 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 1: He ain't taking the collisions like like uh Cam did 1357 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah he's smart now, yeah he understands. 1358 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well hold on, wait a minute, now where whoa 1359 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 2: whoa whoa Wait a minute. So if that's the case, 1360 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 2: then Josh Allen ain't gonna play that long. 1361 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: He ain't taking he ain't taking shots like Cam. Go 1362 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 1: back and look at that. Go back and look at 1363 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: Cam in the Super Bowl. Go back and look at 1364 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Cam that next year. Cam was getting head on collisions. Really, 1365 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: go back and look at the shot that Cam took 1366 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 1: when he's playing New Orleans. Go back and look at 1367 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 1: it when he was, you know, show voting in the 1368 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 1: end Zon and the guy put his helmet right. I 1369 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: think it might have been the Falcons and he put 1370 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 1: his helmet right up on his chin. 1371 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 2: They were trying to kill him out there. 1372 01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and rightfully so, because you're no longer, don't. I 1373 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 1: don't look at you as a quarterback. 1374 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 2: I look at a runner, your running back pocket. Okay, 1375 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 2: you're right, you're right, you're right. 1376 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the way I look at it, if your 1377 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: coach don't care that much about you by calling players, 1378 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: why should I. It's his job to protect you, not mine. Yeah. 1379 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 1: So I'm the hardest god to let me. Legally he 1380 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 1: was that boy though. 1381 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,600 Speaker 2: I was just thinking. I was just thinking about you 1382 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 2: said twenty eleven, and I'm thinking, well, god, damn, look 1383 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 2: at all the quarterbacks, even if you're not a starter anymore, 1384 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 2: they still keep it around. So you can you can, 1385 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 2: you can, you can squeeze, you can you Yeah, out 1386 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:38,799 Speaker 2: another not another eight seven? Easy as a backup? Easy? 1387 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? But normally I mean, how many how many m 1388 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 1: vps you see hanging around like that. 1389 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 2: Though Joe Flacco is still playing. I play, I played, 1390 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 2: I know, I ain't played football in twenty years. 1391 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 1: They don't normally let great quarterbacks hang around like that. 1392 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 1: Is that don't They don't let great players hang around 1393 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,600 Speaker 1: like that guy that special teams guys, those are the 1394 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 1: guys that get ten fifteen years. You're a great player, 1395 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 1: because you got to realize, oh yo, they only see 1396 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 1: you as a great player. See if you've never been great, 1397 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 1: it's cool. I ain't got no expectation from you. Oh see, 1398 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,640 Speaker 1: they gonna expect Cam to be that same Cam to 1399 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen to win the MVAA. 1400 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,720 Speaker 2: I see, Oh that's a good one. Hey, hey, I 1401 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 2: like you put things into perspective like I like that. 1402 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. Look at them guys like man, 1403 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,880 Speaker 1: Hey that Joe had a nice little career. They got 1404 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:32,759 Speaker 1: here like thirteen. 1405 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:38,120 Speaker 2: Put that that was smooth. I like that because I'm. 1406 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: Thinking with not a whole lot of expectations. 1407 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the backup quarterbacks. They just talked about 1408 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 2: one that I think he just recently retired. Man made 1409 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 2: by made by the maybe by sixty million, ain't really 1410 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 2: was really never a starter. I can't I can't remember 1411 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 2: his name, but I'm like. 1412 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody will guess what? Nobody gonna call for him? 1413 01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 1: The quarterback struggle. Ain't nobody calling for him? We want? 1414 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:09,680 Speaker 1: We won't? They don't want that, and I do. I 1415 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 1: believe Cam could have could have been a backup. Yeah yeah, 1416 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,640 Speaker 1: but I think the fans if Cam goes somewhere and 1417 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: somebody struggle. 1418 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 2: Everybody they want. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Damn, I 1419 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 2: forgot what quarterback that was made by sixty men. I 1420 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 2: think he just retired. They were just talking about it too,