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Speaker 3: The stakes are real. Effective preparation starts with fitness, but

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Speaker 3: it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience,

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Speaker 3: Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades of

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Speaker 3: wisdom I've gained through training and competition to hunting in

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Speaker 3: the back country. This is in Pursuit, brought to you

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Speaker 3: by Mount Knocks in collaboration with Mayhem Hunt. We've got

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Speaker 2: We got Josh.

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna just call you bird Bird's Fine, Bird's

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Speaker 3: Fine Zach d two. Yep, college football state, Zach. You

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Speaker 3: were at Ferris when Scott was there. Yep, you guys

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Speaker 2: Should. Yeah, now that we.

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Speaker 4: Know you, Yeah, I get's his second claim the fame.

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Speaker 3: Zach, you played it fair, you went So we kind

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Speaker 1: from heard of landing legacy. No, it's a guy out

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00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 1: there in Missouri. But he's all over and what he

438
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,439
Speaker 1: does is they walk the land. And he taught me

439
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 1: because I didn't know about how. We're still we're learning

440
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 1: a bunch. We tried to burn here and then we

441
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,480
Speaker 1: had that forestry come out.

442
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

443
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,119
Speaker 3: But the guy at four Streets like, basically, you did

444
00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 3: it on the wrong side of the hill. He's like,

445
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,399
Speaker 3: this is the north side of the hill. He's like,

446
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,919
Speaker 3: that doesn't really matter. Great, it was still fun, but

447
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,199
Speaker 3: it's still fun. Yeah, absolutely, But so that that that

448
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 3: was for me. It was trying to accelerate that process

449
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,639
Speaker 3: to really get people out, to get the animals in.

450
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 3: You're you're trying to create groceries. That's the best way

451
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,160
Speaker 3: he put it for me. Doing food plots, you're burning

452
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 3: stuff that creates that natural feed bank. Again, because like

453
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 3: with anything, God had this earth perfect screw And if

454
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 3: he says the guy from Landing Legacy and Matt, he goes, hey,

455
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 3: like if you read these old books, and he studied

456
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 3: these old books from like Lewis and Clark days. And

457
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,679
Speaker 3: when he came over, like it was open savannah, Like

458
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 3: it wasn't these packed dense forests, and there was so

459
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,880
Speaker 3: much more food sources back then. We packed it full

460
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,639
Speaker 3: of cedars and all this other stuff. He's like, So

461
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 3: he walked out there, He's like, all right, I got

462
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,919
Speaker 3: their crew. They're chopping. They chopped everything out there for

463
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 3: a week. They went in there and they cut through everything. Yeah, dude,

464
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's the knowledge that's there on how

465
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 3: to all plant this here, plant this here, cut do

466
00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,400
Speaker 3: the same thing I'd have done.

467
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 1: Nor Oh that ridge looks like I should burn over there,

468
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 1: Sure let's do that. It looks thick. But it's like, no,

469
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 1: it's a strategic plan. Yeah X, and it's perfectly pieced out,

470
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: like this is your betting thicket from August till March.

471
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: Really, he's like.

472
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 1: A big no no go zone and stuff like that.

473
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 1: So we're gonna run. That's our plan. Is able to

474
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 1: get people out there in families, and it's it's been

475
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 1: a cool thing.

476
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you talked about the farm days, but

477
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 3: then also the hunting and harvesting. But it's just a

478
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,719
Speaker 3: connection to where our food came from. You know, like obviously,

479
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,719
Speaker 3: you know we think that eating game meat is awesome,

480
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 3: but also knowing where your food came from. If you're

481
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 3: raising the cattle, you know, we're gonna buy some farm

482
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 3: out here, and then with island highland cows that will

483
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: never be meat. Those are just golden doodles.

484
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: With horns, that's all they are.

485
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: Like that's my wife, Those are my wife' That was

486
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: so she would leave us alone about this side of

487
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 3: the because she started to like that.

488
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 2: One was born. We have to keep that one blah blah.

489
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 3: But there's one named out there that we cast rated

490
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 3: because he was the first one born here. The story

491
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 3: is kind of cool. He was the first one born here,

492
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: and then we named him after a good friend of ours.

493
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: He was a Vietnam Vet. Well he ended up passing,

494
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 3: so now we're like, no, I can't kill this damning

495
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 3: So his name's Wilson.

496
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: But you know, it's like he's a you know, part

497
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: of the part of the landscape now.

498
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: But yeah, you look out you see bison rome in

499
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 3: the front yard, which you know, they say they were

500
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 3: native to hear not this subspecies. You know, these are

501
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 3: actually planes bison, which they say the eastern Easterns were killed.

502
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: Obviously.

503
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: Is there any non modified bison?

504
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: They say there is pure What did I man?

505
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 3: I just read an article the other day they said, uh,

506
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 3: there is a pure herd left, but most herds have

507
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 3: like point percent or whatever because we we bred him

508
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: with cols, because we killed him down into less than

509
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 3: the thousand. Again, we messed with We messed it up,

510
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: which you know, luckily, I think this will come out

511
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: too late. But the the Mike Lee land bill got

512
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 3: shot down, which is awesome, you know.

513
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 2: And we were talking to Angela and angel was like,

514
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 2: I don't really mind it, and I'm.

515
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 3: Like, dude, don't you take one one acre?

516
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: That's a lot of things. Yep, yep, And so I

517
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: you know, I think it was a win for us.

518
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: And absolutely for that's your kids. Yeah, see that land,

519
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 1: and that we might not be affected from it. And

520
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: because it's not gonna dis if you started doing it

521
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 1: now right, it's fifty sixty years. So it's them, it's

522
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: the grandkids that wouldn't be able to have that land

523
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: to go enjoy and see and explore.

524
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: I think that's why it's so important to teach our

525
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: kids how awesome it is to go out and use

526
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 3: the land. I think, you know, once again, it we've

527
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: created that disconnect with the phone or with technology, which

528
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 3: technology is great, you know, that's the hard part. But

529
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: you know, if they lose that connection, and you know,

530
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get the kids into hunting, and you know,

531
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 3: I take yours is too young still, but like having

532
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 3: my girls go out this year and Trice, we killed

533
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: a couple of dos when Trice was out there lake.

534
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: I still I got to kill something with her in

535
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: the stand or she's gonna kill me. But it's you know,

536
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 3: it's it's awesome that they want to go out and

537
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 3: be a part of that. Anytime we harvest anything, like

538
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: I had the realization was it two years ago where

539
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: I'd actually cleaned something by myself? Yeah, And I'm like,

540
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: oh man, I'm thirty six years old and that's the

541
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: first time I've ever done this by I've always you know,

542
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: been a part of it. When we've killed anything. But

543
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: so now anytime we kill anything, I'm like, kids, let's go. Yeah,

544
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: they come out and man, they're you know, they're not

545
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: afraid of it, they're you know, in there and grabbing

546
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: on it. And so man, it's, uh, it's something cool

547
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: to to share and just show them that, hey, like

548
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: this is something that we a lot of people don't

549
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: have access to, right, you know, like we're spoiled, and

550
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 3: it's it's just so cool to be able to connect

551
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 3: that to the younger generation.

552
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

553
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you said it's access. Yeah, and that goes

554
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: back to land stuff. Like if you start selling, like

555
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: then you give that much more limited access and it

556
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: becomes this cycle.

557
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: And it's already hard in the West, you know if

558
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 3: you don't know anybody, like you know, the first what

559
00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: six years or five years, we went you know, unguided

560
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: by ourselves, and it was Colorado over the countertag. You know,

561
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: we had no idea what we were doing. And you know,

562
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 3: there's something special about that though. Like once we kind

563
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 3: of did that and then we started getting invited to

564
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 3: places and I'm like, all right, cool, I'm in you know,

565
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: I keep's let's keep doing this.

566
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: Uh. It was.

567
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: It was eye opening, you know, because you always just

568
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 3: see social media people and they're like killing the moment, right,

569
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: killing left and right, and you're like, man, that looks

570
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: so easy, and then you get out there and you

571
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: realize that, you know, it is way different being even

572
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: on private land, you know, even without an outfitter. Now

573
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: that we've learned a lot, but like having access to land,

574
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: and that's what you were gonna lose is access to

575
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: those those places.

576
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: Yep. So man, it's it's uh, it's.

577
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: Tough, and you know, you know, you think, oh, you know,

578
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: maybe I don't need to need to get in this fight.

579
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: But then you're like, all right, if I'm gonna actually

580
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: stand for something, then we gotta we gotta jump into So.

581
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 4: For your foundation, do people apply, how do they get involved?

582
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: So we we just got this property back and we

583
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: closed in December January of this year, and we have

584
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: had enough connections there, my wife being from there where

585
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: in Florida, we were able to find a couple of

586
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: different homes and stuff like that that we're able to

587
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: get kids out there. And then in Miami it's through

588
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and through Big Brothers, brig sisters and other

589
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: programs like that. We've been able to do some outdoor

590
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: events or for me, a big passion minds now flying.

591
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: That's a new thing for Yeah, it's which is its

592
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: own addiction in itself. But we do a we did

593
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: a trip with United twice now fly to the North

594
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: Pole Kids from the Joe Demagio Hospital there in Miami. Yeah,

595
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: it was so cool, Like they take off from the

596
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: for Ladderdale Airport and they come back and it's this

597
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: own little hangar off to the side and then we

598
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: have it decked out with Christmas stuff, Santa Claus. They

599
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: come down the ramp and stuff like that. It's really

600
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: it was really special. I we look forward to that

601
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: every year. But yeah, so we've Miam, We've had a

602
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: few connections and we're hoping to get to that point

603
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: where we can have applications and really start to be

604
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: able to branch out and help. And my thing is, like,

605
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: the cool thing I would love to be able to

606
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: do is get a kid a Grand Slam. Yeah, some

607
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: of that something like that. I think it'd be really cool.

608
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: We have some connections in Texas through some family friends

609
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: who are also on the board of the foundation that

610
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: help out as well, and that's our big thing is

611
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: we just hired our first full time guy for the

612
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: foundation this year, so to be able to have him

613
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: take people on hunts. Like we said, I can't take

614
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: him the fall, so like, I'm not gonna I don't

615
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: want to send someone somewhere that I don't have someone

616
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: I know or me there that's gonna able to help

617
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: guide them and work them through that and it's probably

618
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: be totally fine.

619
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: Hand.

620
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that it's you're gonna get

621
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: the best experience possible. So we're gonna be able to

622
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: do that now. So I'm really excited to be able

623
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: to do that and do it like not a draw system,

624
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: but something like that. We were able to help out

625
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: applications and get like a full on flights and trips

626
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: down and our new thing which we're working on now

627
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: is getting our site revamped. But we got a we

628
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 1: actually honeymoon in Africa. Oh well yeah we did. And

629
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: then that outfitter was gracious enough that we're going to

630
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: gift us a trip for two every year. That's cool

631
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: to do a seven day planes game hunt in Africa.

632
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: There you go, So we're going to do that hopefully

633
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: this falls will be able to do that application or whatever,

634
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: how we ever decide to do that for a couple,

635
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: for a kid and the parents or whoever, which is

636
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: really exciting. So yeah, we can't wait.

637
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a cool way to share it.

638
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: And you know, some of these kids that we were saying,

639
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: I've got a buddy that does some of that in

640
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: West ten c And you know, he was talking about

641
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: just the moments that I think Luke helped guide a

642
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: hunt out there, Yeah, which I bet was interesting buddy

643
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: of ours, And uh man, it's just there's just something

644
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 3: special about it, right. You can't until people have kind

645
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: of experienced it's hard to kind of show that off,

646
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 3: and then especially to do that with kids, and then

647
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: kids that obviously are you know, going through it is

648
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 3: pretty awesome. So ye, hey, hey, we have to figure

649
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: out a way to a WEE can help out with

650
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: some of that. We got a spot turkey hunt, but

651
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: come on, I don't know if the guides are very good, but.

652
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: Some are overcall a little excited, a little excited.

653
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you talked to so where what did you

654
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: hunt in Africa when you were out there?

655
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: We did We went for planes, game ended up doing

656
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: a buffalo as well. Uh she got a kudo, I

657
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: got the buffalo and then just Game's buck uh spring

658
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: Buck and Paula.

659
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.

660
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, super awesome outfit, great people. Now we actually cool

661
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: because they come back. And what's really cool is Nashal

662
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: is doing sc I know. Yeah, they just signed the

663
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: least and they're doing it for.

664
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: The last two or three years.

665
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: And about the next ten more, I think. But they

666
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: come back. They come to that Scish every year. So

667
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: we did a thing at our house and yeah, everyone,

668
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: it's been awesome.

669
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: That's that.

670
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: Africa is just something I've never really looked into. I'm

671
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: kind of like I've got weird tendencies where i get

672
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: obsessive about something, so like was all in on Turkey

673
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: and now I'm like one hundred percent in on Elk.

674
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: So it's hard for me. You know.

675
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: I've Matt's got our buddy Matt that owns form with us.

676
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: He's got a guy that's spend in contact with him

677
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: trying to get us to Africa, and like one day

678
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: I'll get there. And I wasn't like hating on it,

679
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 3: but this guy like takes offense that I won't come

680
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: out there right now. Actually, I just saw that Renault's

681
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: out there. I'm trying it out. So I've just never

682
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: you know, so kind of walked through that style of

683
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: hunt because I've never even so.

684
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: That was our first big hunt as a couple or myself. Yeah,

685
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: everything was. We were auto industry, mittle class whitetail, some

686
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: geese from the January. We never even turkey on Michigan. Rearly,

687
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: I didn't turkey it until I came to Florida.

688
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: It's not big, you know.

689
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: I've got my uncles are huge whitetail hunters, and I'm like,

690
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: you ever hunt turkey? Like now, They're out in our

691
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: yard all the time, and I'm like, yeah, blast them.

692
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely. We were like I don't really care and I'm

693
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: like every day. That's what got me hooked though, was

694
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: turkey hunting.

695
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: That's what we got my wife looked on hunting. Was

696
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: turkey hunting. Yeah. It's so frustrating, but either way, So

697
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: Africa was our first big trip. We did our honeymoon

698
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: over there and we did ten days hunting down there

699
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: in South Africa. Yep, and uh, it was it was

700
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: it was, dude, It's it's a grind. You're you're out there, like,

701
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: it's not like you just show up and here you go. Yeah,

702
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: it's it was. It was work and there. It was

703
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: ten days straight, probably twelve hours a day, sleeping on

704
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: the ground out there in africats, these massive ranches.

705
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: It's not like we didn't know would that be wild?

706
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah we did. Uh.

707
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: We were stalking on the buffalo. Actually it's our kodu hunt.

708
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: We were stalking on. We're trying to pick up trails

709
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: and seven yards away we kicked up three rhinos. Sketchy,

710
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: ground was shaken. Oh yeah, I might have gotten pushed

711
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: for my wife. Yeah, uh rightly, so yeah, sacrifice exactly right.

712
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: It was without a paddle. I don't have that, but

713
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: it was. It was really cools all. And it's what

714
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: makes her break. Is the outfit you're with. Yeah, and

715
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: it's it's the and it's but that's all of hunt

716
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: we're with. Like, it's not it's about the chase. It's

717
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: about harvesting a beautiful animal that hopefully can take all

718
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: that meat home and you can use it for war,

719
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: and you know where.

720
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 2: It came from. Africa.

721
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: It's hard to bring the meat back. So a lot

722
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: of times all that most every time the meat goes

723
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: to local tribes and stuff, and it's a lot of

724
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: their bets, like their only source of protein.

725
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

726
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: And that's the amazing part of hunting over there is

727
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: all that the income from the hunting industry goes to

728
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: preservation and then the meat goes to local tribes and

729
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: people to give them their source of protein basically, so

730
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: it works out great. And anyways, yeah, it was an

731
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: amazing hunt.

732
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: It's just different.

733
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: It's like because we did then we did my buffalo

734
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: a spot in stock a lot, it's spot in stock

735
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: from a truck. Typically you're covering one hundred thousand acres

736
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: spots like it's it's like West but like it's everything. Yeah,

737
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: so there's so much land to cover and it's thick

738
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: and everything's got thorns and everything like that. So we

739
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: did a lot of time on there. Those land cruiser

740
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: was a big deck up top.

741
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: You're sitting up.

742
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: There just driving around for hours and then there's some

743
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: spots where's okay, they've we saw when he worked into here,

744
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: give an hour or two. We'll try to work in

745
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: pick up tracks something like that. And it's so different

746
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: than over here. Is your spot and you're like, you're

747
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: walking around hiking, I'm looking down and you know whatever, Hey, wait,

748
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: don't move. I'm like, we see something looking around. He's

749
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: like no, like forty years away is a giraffe and

750
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: he can see over the trees. So then like a

751
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: lot of the other animals, hang your giraffes because basically

752
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: a watchtower.

753
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about that. That's just stuff. You just

754
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: stuff you don't think about.

755
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: Yo, who thinks, hey, there's an animal looking down on you. Yeah,

756
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna let you know. But that was seeing a

757
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 1: giraffe fight a person. Yes, yeah, they're crazy, and then

758
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: watching them run. It's like slow motion. It's just it's

759
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: just different. It's a whole in the world.

760
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, something you keep talking about is just like the

761
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: grind of honey. Yeah, what are like some takeaways or

762
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: things you've learned because obviously your career has been a

763
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: grind as well, right, Like there's had to be up

764
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: and downs. Just how what are some things that you've

765
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: learned from your career are from Honting that was like, okay,

766
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: this is the same thing.

767
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Discipline and patience it's the biggest two. Yeah, patients, Well,

768
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: for me, it was patients to get on the field.

769
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: It took me three years at Faris, it took me

770
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: three four years in Miami Baltimore slash Miami. But then

771
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: having the discipline to be like, all right, I know

772
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing the right thing. I know I'm on the

773
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: right track. I as long as you have a good guidance.

774
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate to have great coaches throughout the

775
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: entire process, and it's just like, just keep working, like

776
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: you'll get your shot. Like that came from nowhere. No,

777
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 1: none of my family members ever knew kind of what

778
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: it was like to even begin doing that kind of

779
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: stuff competitively my dead Russell, but rustling's totally different, like

780
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: amazing sport. It is a team sport, popular contrary belief,

781
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: but it's when it's that when you're out there, it's

782
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: just it's just you. Football's there's so many different aspects

783
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: to it. It's like, hey, if that scheme doesn't work for you,

784
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: that might not be your scheme, and like you might

785
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: never get a shot. So it was the patience and

786
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: the disc Okay, I'm gaining the weight, I'm doing the

787
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: right thing, I'm doing the reps, I'm getting better at

788
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: my technique. Nice got wait for my opportunity. That's why

789
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: I tell kids we go around we just did our

790
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: first youth football camp back home and say, hey, look

791
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: like listen to your coaches, like I know, like at

792
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: least for where I'm from, Like I know, they got

793
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: good coach that just came in there now, and the

794
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: guys that were there when I was there were great.

795
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: It's just listening to them do what they say. Like

796
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: and also part of that is do your own research,

797
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: like don't just follow a blind eye, like you can

798
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: challenge in a very respectful way where it's like, hey,

799
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: why are we doing this, or what's this going to help?

800
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: Or hey maybe my style of play is not like

801
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: his and I need I have the length or he

802
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: has the explosion. That's how can I tailor this to

803
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: make it better for me? So it's having the knowledge

804
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: from them and from yourself, and then the willpower, the

805
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: discipline to what JOCKO say, disipline equal freedom. Yeah, that

806
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: to me is like that ranks home with everything and

807
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: that right there is just and that's what my career

808
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: has been. It's just every day working getting better. So

809
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: when that opportunity does come, you're ready. Yeah, that was

810
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: it that hunting right something you just said, learn too.

811
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Like when we go with other people that are better

812
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: than us, we ask a lot of questions. It's probably

813
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: like annoyingly yeah, you know, I'm like, hey, why are

814
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: we doing this? Not not like challenging, I'm like, I

815
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: want to know what the heck we're trying to do

816
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: because I want to be able to do it on

817
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: my own.

818
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and so yeah, there's a ton of parallels with

819
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: your kids. Yeah, that's that's why I'm trying to learn

820
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: as much as I can right now.

821
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: I haven't cleaned a deer. Even when I was young,

822
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: I really didn't cclude.

823
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: My dad did it.

824
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: I was ten, twelve, thirteen years old watching him do

825
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: and I tried here and there then Hawaii. I'm like, hey,

826
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: let me let me do it, be in there a

827
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: little bit and try it, and of course it took

828
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: three times as long forever.

829
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like for sure, but it's.

830
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: Like that's my thing is I want to learn so

831
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: one day I'll be able to do it again or do

832
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: it with my son. So that's our big thing is

833
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: trying to learn. That's what we're trying to do is

834
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: learn as much as we can. We've been on a

835
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: couple of l constant you know, you get to share

836
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: that with other people. I've I enjoy it from the

837
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: team sport aspect as well, Like I don't think.

838
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: These guys that go on solo hunts more power to them.

839
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: But I would rather like have a bunch of us

840
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: go out there, three or four of us go out there.

841
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: And try as a team to get one. Actually I

842
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: enjoy that way back.

843
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: Probably just as happy if you come home with a

844
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: deer instead.

845
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's usually the only one that shoots.

846
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: I'm on the things.

847
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're right, yeah, off the side if it

848
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: veers off.

849
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Backed me up. What happened in Colorado? What do you mean?

850
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

851
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 2: You let him shoot?

852
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to it. I could have taken the

853
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: shot easily, but I let Matt take the shot. So

854
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: it's fine, family friendly. No, not a competition, Not a

855
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: competition at all. Well, the one, the one that we

856
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: killed public Land, I just happened to be the only

857
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: one with a bow and in my hand when the

858
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: thing walked up. Like there was four other guys that

859
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: were sitting there and they all had bows. But I

860
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: just happen to have an arrow knocked and sitting there

861
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: and then the rest have been. Our TV episodes are

862
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: not even TV YouTube episodes, which is part of it.

863
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, these guys always give me crap because I'm

864
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: the one that takes a shot.

865
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: It's like going Talladega Knights and it's like, hey, he

866
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 4: just one time, I could you could sling shot me?

867
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: Never He's like why why? Why? Then you would win?

868
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: Then you would win and you're deer out of here.

869
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, Oh thank you, No, No, we love it.

870
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: It's been and that's what part of it too, is

871
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: like it's that that family atmosphere. It's the fun and

872
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: it's the connecting with everybody. And what's cool you get

873
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: you've done it with your wife a couple of times,

874
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: which is super cool, pretty awesome. That's that's rare and

875
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: that's something that we love is like doing it together. Yeah,

876
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: And like like I said in Hawaii, like the first

877
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: two days we were separate, and that third day we

878
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: hunted together. And what's funny is that third day we

879
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: both came home with the deer.

880
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

881
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know what it is, but it's it's

882
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: it's it's almost a team sport. When you're doing those

883
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: spotting stocks and you're bow hunting, somebody spot Yeah, it's

884
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: like deer is not going to stop moving. It's not

885
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: like like white tail, you can do solo and a

886
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: blind gets you a few trees. I try to do

887
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: this access hunt too. All right, this tree, this is twenty,

888
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: that's thirty, middle.

889
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: Of the night and they come out and it's like

890
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: what tree was that?

891
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: What?

892
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: Right?

893
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: And then in your full dry oh is that twenty?

894
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: Was that thirty?

895
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

896
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm shooting and shooting and right over the back. So

897
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: either way doing it together, like it was pretty cool

898
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: where it's like hey, she's she's full draw on her knee.

899
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, stand up because they were getting behind

900
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: the ridge. She pops up like shoot thirty yeap, because

901
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: you because if you're you're doing there's so many things

902
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: to lock in on bowt hunting dude, and they're moving

903
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: and everything they are sit still. It's like you got

904
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: to have a spotter.

905
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: You got it.

906
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's what's so fun about it, And it's

907
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: for me, it's just as fun sitting there helping her

908
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: and vice versa, and it is shooting yep.

909
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: So it's awesome hard when your spotters your cameraman and

910
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: it's trying to get a shot of the kill shot

911
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: and you have him range for you and don't give

912
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: him a chance to get the camera up at it's

913
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: more important.

914
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: What I said, One thing you talked about earlier is

915
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: the chess match in football, so that I think that

916
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 4: probably has many correlations with hunting as well. That was right, yep,

917
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 4: if you want to touch for one, why do you

918
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: love the chess piece of football so much? And then

919
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: what that's talked too as well.

920
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I like, as I've grown in my career,

921
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: and then last year we had Klays Campbell and with

922
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: us on the D line and just learning from him too,

923
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: because that's my thing. I don't care how long I

924
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: do something like you can always learn something. Plays has

925
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: been playing D line and for eighteen years sane. Yeah, yeah,

926
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: he's oh yeah, and like and he's seen. I don't

927
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: always joke about it to him, like, dude, you were

928
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: around before the style of defense was around. Yeah, like

929
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: what happened? Like how did you?

930
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, how did you survive that long? I know?

931
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: Dude, he's another freaking nature. Yeah, genetically gifted and he

932
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: works at it too, which that's his thing. He takes

933
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: care of his body and all that kind of stuff.

934
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: But it's that chess match of like, all right, you

935
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: got your first down, your tendencies, and then you get

936
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: your second down, and then third down gets broken up

937
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: into like almost like first third and one and two,

938
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: three and four, five and five to seven, seven to ten,

939
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: And it's like it's that chess match. Okay, where are

940
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: they at the clock running?

941
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: What?

942
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: What? What time's on the clock? How many time mouse

943
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: they have?

944
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 2: Okay?

945
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: What hash they on? What arm thrower? Which most all are

946
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: right handed quarterbacks now and all that all that piece

947
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: goes into it for every single play and like kind

948
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: of knowing how that develops, and okay, hey, what's behind you?

949
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: What are the safeties doing? Where's the corners at?

950
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: Okay? We have movements? Is it a pressure? Okay?

951
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: The offense? What's their backfield set? You're trying to get

952
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: a snapshot of all this stuff before you can get

953
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 1: in your stance, and it can give you so many

954
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: different details. Hunting is the same way. It's like, okay,

955
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: I can sit here, Okay, there's a game trail here

956
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: but the winds hitting this, So where do I want

957
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: to sit? Okay, the sun's coming up. I'm on this hill.

958
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: I just burned my Norse slope, so I can't go

959
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: over there.

960
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

961
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're saying everywhere, Yeah, exactly right, So either way,

962
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: And that's part of That's what I love about the

963
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: hunting side of thing is it still gets that uh,

964
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: it that competitive, that it's being on the best, the

965
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: best of your game possible because like in football, you

966
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: never know what play is going to be your best play,

967
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: what's gonna be your worst play, or what's gonna be

968
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: your last play?

969
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: You don't And that's that's that Every single down is

970
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: like that. And like for me when huntings, when I'm

971
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: not playing football and it's in the off season, it's

972
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: like huntings like all right, you never know what Like

973
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: you just said, I mean, guys had bows, you're the

974
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: one that a bowl with an Aaron. You never know

975
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: what moments your opportunity, What morning's gonna be the best morning,

976
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: what mornings gonna be the worst morning, What morning's gonna

977
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: be Like you just don't like obviously you hopefully can

978
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: keep hunting for a long.

979
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: Time, don't use hunt wise because anytime it's ninety percent

980
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: that the deer are going to be moving, they're never moving.

981
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: Yeah right, the atmosphere, pressure, right, the moving calendar, everything, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

982
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Man, there's so much of that stuff that goes into it.

983
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: I've kind of said, you know, that was I think

984
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: the why I enjoyed that transition from competing in CrossFit

985
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: to hunting was the ultimate competition.

986
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: It's kind of the first competition there probably ever was.

987
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: I didn't think about that, And so you're it's you

988
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: versus that animal, and for me, you're probably the same

989
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: way as I get to screw it up and nobody

990
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: else really has to know about it, where like if

991
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: you screw up, there's film of it, everybody's gonna critique.

992
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna tell you what you did wrong.

993
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't mind, like if it's just us,

994
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: but you know, it's it's kind of nice to not

995
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: for it not to be a public failure. Except for Scott.

996
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 3: He's got a couple of video files. Oh, there's probably

997
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 3: a lot of burn files.

998
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

999
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: I guess I've got what a couple of misses on camera,

1000
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: one pure miss I ranged it incorrectly or set my

1001
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: pin in correctly.

1002
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: I actually have a great shot of that one.

1003
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 3: And then the one in Oklahoma that it just ducked

1004
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: my arrow clean, passed through a bunch of blood.

1005
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: Couldn't find it. I mean we looked and looked and looked.

1006
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's man, it's just it's the first competition,

1007
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: especially bow hunting. Bow hunting. Yeah, that's a whole other

1008
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: piece to it.

1009
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's And I mean it's like because growing

1010
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: up and like she, my wife, did a lot of

1011
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: gun hunting early on with us, and it's like she

1012
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do anymore, and we don't. If we don't,

1013
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: if we can prefer to, let's be honest, you're trying to.

1014
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: Bring meat home, then an equal opportunity hunter, Yeah it is,

1015
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: but I prefer I prefer bow. And then you know,

1016
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: when the kids get old enough that they can go

1017
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 3: and I'm not gone, or if I'm gone, they can

1018
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: go with me. And all of September minus the seventeenth,

1019
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 3: that's my wife's birthday, I'll be gone all of September.

1020
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: I enjoy bow hunting the most, but I can't leave

1021
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: my kids the whole month of September.

1022
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: You know they're going with you exactly, exactly and like

1023
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: and that's part of bow hunting is like you can

1024
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: physically like you're smelling them.

1025
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: You're you can hear them, like it's so intimate.

1026
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, and it's it's just crazy. And that

1027
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: competition with them is just it's it's a match. It's

1028
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: chess match, just like football. Like all right, hey, and

1029
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: that was our big hunting or our hunt in Hawaii.

1030
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: The one I shot was it was like thirty or

1031
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: four to them coming down this hill in front of us,

1032
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: about sixty yards out, a big buck in the back.

1033
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I want to that's obviously that'

1034
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: where you're gonna am. But he's falling dough. It's the rut.

1035
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: So there's these two does flingering. Guess what he's lingering.

1036
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: All the rest are pushing down. That wind's coming. I'm like,

1037
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: I like, I look at him. I'm like that there's

1038
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: a smaller buck coming up. I'm like, if they get

1039
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: to that corner piece behind them, we're getting winded. It's

1040
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna blow him out of there too.

1041
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: Is they're gonna start barking at you I'm like, I'm

1042
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: taking a shot yep, and like you're weighing all that stuff,

1043
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: You're weighing those battles.

1044
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.

1045
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: So we did it worked out great, It was awesome

1046
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: and that's what's and have that team Camarder where it's like,

1047
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: all right, what do you think? Like, am I am

1048
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: I over psyching this? Am I overthinking? Is it gonna

1049
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: be fine? Or is it going to be No?

1050
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: You probably should do yes, yeah, or you've got somebody

1051
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: to bounce strategy off of.

1052
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: Hey, do we think this is a good idea? Do

1053
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: we think it's a bad idea? Do we agree? Do

1054
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: we disagree? Can be dead wrong? Yeah, yeah most of

1055
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: the time.

1056
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: Most of the time, are you going to stop two

1057
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: feet past where somebody else wants to stop? Uh?

1058
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1059
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: When you talk about your preparation, obviously there's all kinds

1060
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: of training styles you today which you can talk through. Said,

1061
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: most of how you guys train, it's just thirty second bursts, yeah.

1062
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: Six second burst, six to sixteen thirty second break, okay,

1063
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: because you're trying to simulate football.

1064
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: So then in that and then you say you hit

1065
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 4: the mountains later the woods.

1066
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, does that correlate at all.

1067
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: It's so funny because like like she's basketball is constantly

1068
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: moving and all that stuff. Like we'll be doing these

1069
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: hikes and like we're like in Hawaii, we're just doing

1070
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: these You're also like mountain, yeah.

1071
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: Which is a lot to move.

1072
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: It is plus the bag and yeah, yeah, my bow

1073
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: is huge, akle, the axle, it's not the compressed. I

1074
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: can't get smaller bows and everything. So it's just funny

1075
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: because we'll be hiking like she's that steady, just go

1076
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: go go, like just keeps going, and I'll literally be

1077
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: catching myself on hikes. I'm like, all right, go and

1078
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: then I stop and I go fast again, then I

1079
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: stop and it's just it's just funny how like that's

1080
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: how that's how my body works. And when I'm done,

1081
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: I'll have to train differently, but for now it works great.

1082
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing it because like that's how we

1083
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: that's how we play.

1084
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: This is what it is. Yep, it's funny.

1085
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: We always joke as like if you ever have an

1086
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: extended play an interception or fumble, and you turn like

1087
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: I could you could do eight to ten plays in

1088
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: a row and come off the field. A offense out there.

1089
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: Something happen. You gotta get back out there. Sudden change.

1090
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: You can make that work. You do an extended play

1091
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: where it's like a fumble or interception. You start running

1092
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: and you have to turn and fifteen thirty second play

1093
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: done it. Whereas oxygen ass or is everything, it's like

1094
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: holy cow, which is hit me?

1095
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just different.

1096
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got an interception last year. I made it

1097
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: two yards. I was still because it's just that extra

1098
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: little burst, wasn't adrenaline probably dumped on you.

1099
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: So your heart rate's a million. You're actually gonna h

1100
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: wide eyed and everything.

1101
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean we get you know we we

1102
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: just did a meat Eater kind of collab post and

1103
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: you know, this guy.

1104
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: Was like, you don't need to lift sandbank? When are

1105
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: you ever gonna lift a sand bank? You know, blah

1106
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: blah blah.

1107
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: But there's different body types, there's different you know obviously

1108
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: you know somebody's tall, skinny, whatever. Yeah, they can do

1109
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: like we're all just like, there's all different muscle fibers,

1110
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: all these different things. So what we really want to

1111
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: look at is is obviously balance between all of that.

1112
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, we do some long, slow days, but man,

1113
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: I think there's a huge benefit to those high intensity

1114
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: being able to move heavy weight when.

1115
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: You need to.

1116
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: You know, this guy was like, oh, there's no need

1117
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: to lift one hundred and fifty pounds ham bag, blah

1118
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: blah blah.

1119
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you.

1120
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 4: Also said you was on steroids.

1121
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: He's also said I was on steroids. So it is

1122
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: what it is, you know.

1123
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: So it's like, we want to train those short bursts

1124
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: because you might have to have a short burst and

1125
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: go after something, move quick and do whatever and be

1126
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: able to like calm down, bring your heart rate down

1127
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: during an interval, take a shot, whatever it is. But yeah,

1128
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 3: you need to be able to do long and slow.

1129
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: But why would we just train one piece. You're training

1130
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: one piece because that's what you need to do, and

1131
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: that's specialization if you know kind of the demands of what.

1132
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: You're going to do.

1133
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: But when you get on the mountain, you don't know

1134
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: the demands of what you're gonna do. So why not

1135
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: be as physically prepared as possible, be as strong as

1136
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: you can without you know, limiting being able to move

1137
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: up and now can bet yeah, oh for sure, fact,

1138
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: but you can also be pretty dang strong and still

1139
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 3: be able to move your body weight just slow and steady,

1140
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: and so like I just you know, there's obviously different

1141
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: schools of thought, but man, I've noticed the years that

1142
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: I had the most and even you know, we came

1143
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 3: into it, you know, I coming into like we showed

1144
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: up with a guide on my first hunt and I

1145
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: was probably a month out of the CrossFit games. Yeah,

1146
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: and the guide at first had no clue who I was,

1147
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: and then was you know, my other buddy who was

1148
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: hunting with us.

1149
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: The Guid's like, who the hell is this guy and

1150
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: what does he do?

1151
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: Because that's I mean, I'd literally just coming out of

1152
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 3: like the hardest training block I've ever had. And so

1153
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: CrossFit does lend you pretty you know, well for the mountains.

1154
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: Same I mean, football is the same thing.

1155
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: Like you're on your feet.

1156
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: You're on your feet, and that's the thing is that

1157
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: you're not used to being on your house. Like you're

1158
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna get it, You're gonna get tanked, and like that's

1159
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: the thing, like you can you find a way to

1160
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: make it work. And it's not even like he had

1161
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: the cardio on the right conditioning and all like to prepare,

1162
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: but like it's the mindset, mindset. A lot of it's like, hey,

1163
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: look I'm just I'm a competitive that's I'm gonna go

1164
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: up this mountain. It might be slower, but I'm gonna

1165
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: make it and it's gonna be whatever it is. I'm

1166
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: gonna be ready. I was like, that's that's just that's

1167
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: it is done.

1168
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: And one way to prepare yourself for that is to

1169
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: do hard things. And usually it's high intensity stuff are

1170
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: hard things because long, slow, Yeah, I mean it it

1171
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: does suck, but it's not like it's not miserable if

1172
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 3: you can keep doing it forever.

1173
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: So even today we did the thirty minutes, I mean

1174
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 4: you moved the whole time. It's not like it.

1175
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: Was I think I did. I hope you did. Yeah.

1176
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean that was a perfect example though of

1177
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: like somehow you obviously thirty minutes somebody who's an ultra

1178
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: endurance athlete, it's gonna be like, not thirty minutes, that's

1179
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 3: not real cardio. But you know, we're picking up a

1180
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: hunred pounds sand bag, carrying it one hundred feet benching,

1181
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: which h you know, you're moving, moving, you're moving, you

1182
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: know on the mountain. It's not a huge thing. That

1183
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: you need to be able to bench, but hey, doesn't

1184
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: want to be doesn't want to bench, and then you're

1185
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: gonna carry. You want to have some fun, right, so

1186
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 3: then you're gonna carry again. And then during that time,

1187
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: we were getting thirty to thirty five calories and so

1188
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: I mean, your heart rate's high for thirty minutes, but

1189
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: you're also moving heavy weight, and so I would rather

1190
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: be that prepared versus just being able to walk or.

1191
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Like, did you feel like you've adapted more of that

1192
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: mountain train in your schedule?

1193
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: Starting probably end of this month, I've got a CrossFit

1194
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: competition we're doing next week that I've been trying to

1195
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 3: get a buddy. We're doing a three man masters competition.

1196
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: And our our buddy that's he's a pe teacher and

1197
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 3: I'm trying to like whip him into shape a little bit.

1198
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: He's he's crushing it. And so we've got that competition

1199
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: coming up. You know, even even as old as I am,

1200
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: still gett hyper competitive at those things, even local competition.

1201
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 3: And so after that, I'll probably you know, I'll start

1202
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: shooting my bow hour a day and I'll start you know,

1203
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: like training longer, slower type stuff. But I still think.

1204
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: You know, last couple of years, I've done the Leadville

1205
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 3: one hundred mountain bike race, and man, I just the

1206
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: the years that I felt the best though, were when

1207
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: I was doing pure CrossFit type stuff and then adding

1208
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: in some slow stuff. I'm just not a slow athlete,

1209
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: Like I'm not wired that way, I'm not built that way,

1210
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 3: And so I just enjoy kind of what we did.

1211
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: Like thirty minutes is long enough, I think on a

1212
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: mountain even too, Like as long as you're on your

1213
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: feet and used to being on your feet most of

1214
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: the time, we're twenty to thirty minutes yep of a

1215
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 3: high intense climb and then you're chilling out for a minute.

1216
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: Class can move too much? Yeah, you blow most of hunts.

1217
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nothing's coming, I'm gonna start moving.

1218
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1219
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: The second you pick everything up, you take a step,

1220
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: it's like right there walking right by you.

1221
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: Gotta be kidding me.

1222
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I think we've kind of found

1223
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: a happy medium. We've taken a little bit of the

1224
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: CrossFit methodology and adapted it to kind of.

1225
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: Mountain sports or mountain hunting.

1226
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, I just I enjoy It's it's a

1227
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: type athlete I am as well too, Like you know,

1228
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: I can, I can kind of just keep doing, but

1229
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: I like to have some intensity in there, like like

1230
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 3: a little methadict.

1231
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: A reason for doing it too though, Like that's my

1232
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: thing is like I want to have a reason.

1233
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 2: What am I preparing? Yeah, exactly, need a target yep, exactly. Yeah.

1234
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: So it's either a competition or twenty four hour event

1235
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: we just did, we did twenty four hour mountain bike race,

1236
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: or it's those hunts, like I like to have that

1237
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: target of like all right, ye you know that push

1238
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: that's what I'm training for.

1239
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely right.

1240
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 4: Doesn't necessarily pertain the hunting, but I'd think a part

1241
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: of your story that's so awesome is just how you

1242
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 4: worked up to be seeing captain yep. Just for whoever's listening,

1243
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 4: I think that part of your story is just great.

1244
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll just I can give a quick like

1245
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: I've talked about on like we did a Land of

1246
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: Legacy podcast and there guy and he's a farming at

1247
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: athletic with the farming and I kind of meshed that

1248
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: world and it's as true as that, Like that patience,

1249
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: that discipline is what got me to where I'm at,

1250
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: Like I was impatiently, I need to get in a

1251
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: field now. When it was early on, I pushed everyone,

1252
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: let's go, and I get out there and I just

1253
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: blow up and it's like, hey, what are you doing? Yeah,

1254
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: You're never gonna get in there shot. So yeah, so,

1255
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean I started. So when I walked on at Ferris,

1256
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: I graduated high school in twenty thirteen, so that had

1257
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: been the fall of thirteen. Then when I walked on

1258
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: at Ferris, took me three years to see the field.

1259
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: That third year, I played like the last three games

1260
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: of the year, a couple of playoffs games. I had

1261
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: a good some good snaps, also some bad ones early on, yep,

1262
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: And then my fourth year I ended up getting I

1263
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: had nineteen and a half sacks in a single season.

1264
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: Fifth year I had fifteen fourteen whatever some scheme change, whatever,

1265
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: or just getting targeted more right, this is what it is.

1266
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: And I put on eighty pounds by the time I

1267
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: was done playing at seventy pounds. Kind of left Ferris

1268
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: and it was definitely the camaraderie with the guys, the

1269
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: team aspect, and the almost stubbornness. Yeah to be like, no,

1270
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna quit. This is I'm gonna do this.

1271
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: Everyone's told me no, my whole life on this, like

1272
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: you won't be this. And I had. I had a

1273
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: job lined up with Chrysler well Tech Engineering right there downtown, Yeah,

1274
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: right there, downtown Detroit. They had a job lined up

1275
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: when I graduated, which I did graduate. And when I graduated,

1276
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: I technically had one more year left of college ball,

1277
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: even though I was there for five and a half years.

1278
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: There's COVID year before COVID. I got some ways to

1279
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: work things, and uh, it's a ten semester rules drop

1280
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: out in the spring and you come back in the

1281
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: next fall to only get four seasons on the field.

1282
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: But I sucked so bad my first two I never

1283
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: saw the field.

1284
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so you could have.

1285
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: I technically had three seasons on the field, but I

1286
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: didn't do that. I'm like, hey, look, this is my

1287
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: time if I'm not going to gain anything else from

1288
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: staying here, which sorry, actually national change there. It was

1289
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: before me, I was after me. I was before that.

1290
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I did Ferris and then when I

1291
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: was done, when I graduated, I'm like, you know what,

1292
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my hat in the ring try the NFL.

1293
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: I went down to Atlanta to train, did my pro DA.

1294
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: I didn't get invited the combine. I ended up doing

1295
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: my pro day at Michigan U of M and H

1296
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: had a great combine. I did a bunch of thirty visits,

1297
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: which are like one day visits basically to all these

1298
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: different teams. It's basically like an eight hour interview. You

1299
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: walk around the buildings, You're talking to staff and coaches

1300
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: and gms and all these different people just kind of

1301
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: get beat on you. And H did eight teams in

1302
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: like nine days. Yeah, it was like Arizona, La, New York, Baltimore.

1303
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: Of course, they're never going to line up, so it

1304
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: was back and forth all the time. I'm living out

1305
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: of a backpack basically, but you're trying to stay in

1306
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: shape because as soon as the drafts over, we got

1307
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: working mini camp, so we I ended up I was fortunate.

1308
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: I got drafted Baltimore seventh round. UH did my first

1309
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: year there, going to my second year. Was cut after

1310
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: camp never I didn't get claimed, so it's technically my

1311
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: contract was done that rookie that drafted contract was done

1312
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: and UH got picked back up on the practice squad

1313
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: there in Baltimore. Three or four weeks later, some injuries whatever,

1314
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: I got bumped back up to the fifty three, had

1315
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: some bad games. I was up to three ten at

1316
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: that point. I feel like I just couldn't move. I

1317
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: was in a bad place. And then I got cut

1318
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: again at the end of the season, like two to

1319
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: three weeks left, and then Miami claimed me.

1320
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: How does that process work? Sorry, this is like total Yeah,

1321
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: you get a list. I didn't know because D two.

1322
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: It's not like you have guys I can call up.

1323
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: But hey man, what happens now or what's next. It's

1324
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: kind of like they just kind of tell you where

1325
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: to go. So when I got cut, it was waivers

1326
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 3: are for and I think it's different. It is different

1327
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 3: now we have a new CBA. When I got cut

1328
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: back then it was four pm to four pm. It

1329
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: was teams could pick you up the worst team that week,

1330
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 3: it's first, got first every time. So it was one

1331
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 3: through thirty two. But they don't know who. And this

1332
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: is my understanding, I might be a couple of things

1333
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: might be off, but they don't know what who other

1334
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: teams claimed so.

1335
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: Every four potball, Okay, there you go. Yeah, so four

1336
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: pm on Tuesday someone got cut and then four pm

1337
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: at Wednesday they let you know if you got the claim.

1338
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: So that if five teams put in for the same guy,

1339
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: they don't know who he got put in for. If

1340
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 1: they get know, if a team before they're the worst one,

1341
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: that team gets that pack and there are guys just

1342
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: lose it. No, it's no, it's because waivers. It's just

1343
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: you're just yeah, it's sets. Uh, it's typically no, but

1344
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: they do carry that contract. You were pasted your presently

1345
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: say they take it.

1346
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: Yep.

1347
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: And if you clear waivers, your contract's done. You're technically

1348
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: out of a job. Got so I clear waivers my

1349
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: first time. The second time, it was Wednesday, Wednesday night,

1350
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 1: it was four pm. We ended at five that day,

1351
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: so it was four pm. I did meetings in the

1352
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: morning lyft. I did practice meetings again in the afternoon.

1353
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: It was in between all our breaks. Someone goes, hey,

1354
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: exactly need you upstairs and uh, And that's the thing

1355
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: with the NFL, if you ever had to go upstairs,

1356
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: it's usually a good thing. I went up to, Hey,

1357
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: give us your playbook. Sorry, but we got a guy

1358
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: on waivers that we weren't expecting and get because Baltimore

1359
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: was making a playoff run at that point, and that

1360
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: guy no other teams claimed them that were better than them,

1361
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: so they got them. So then they have they have

1362
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: like ten minutes or a half hour to clear a

1363
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: spot on their roster for that guy that got claimed.

1364
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: So that I got cut. So now that goes into

1365
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: the waivers of Wednesday to Thursday. So Wednesday night at

1366
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: four I got cut, and then Thursday during the day,

1367
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: you're not You're out of a job. So I didn't

1368
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: go to the facility. I was actually I lived in

1369
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: RV at the point, and I'm like, well, I'm going somewhere,

1370
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: and my my shackles broke on my least spring hangers,

1371
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: so I was just the tires off replace and those

1372
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going somewhere, so I thought, I was

1373
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: my brain. I'm like, okay, I'll back up, I'll drive

1374
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: out of here, and wherever I go, I go and

1375
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: there'll be a campground somewhere. I didn't know this, and

1376
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: then so then I called my agent. It was like

1377
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: midday Thursday. He's like, yeah, you're probably not gonna I

1378
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: haven't got any calls. I don't think anyone's gonna claim you. Okay, Okay,

1379
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of like, what are we gonna do?

1380
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: He's like Baltimore watching back on practice Squad and all

1381
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: this stuff, and okay, so I was kind of thinking

1382
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: that was gonna happen.

1383
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: Four o'clock.

1384
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: Come, my agent goes, hey, you got claim. I'm like

1385
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: to where? He goes, I don't know, Like, what do

1386
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: you mean?

1387
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: You don't know?

1388
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: He goes, well, Cleveland called me all hot because they

1389
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: put a claiming for you, but they didn't get you.

1390
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: And I told him like, if they put a claim

1391
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: in for you that they were probably gonna get you

1392
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: because no one else was getting claimed. I'm like really,

1393
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, he's like, some where am I going?

1394
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: So then she was in Florida at the time, and uh,

1395
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 1: I called her my han, I'm going somewhere to say where.

1396
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm like someone worse than Cleveland at the time, and uh,

1397
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: Miami put a claiming for me. So then Miami was

1398
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: the one that got me on waivers. Around four thirty

1399
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: four to forty five that night, they got a call

1400
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: from Miami's scheduling department saying, hey, where you there's an

1401
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: eight o'clock and is a nine o'clock flight, which would

1402
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: you want to be on? I'm driving, Well I thought

1403
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: it was like I'm not now, so I'm all right,

1404
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. It's like perfect. So I got there at

1405
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: like ten thirty, eleven o'clock. I was at the camp

1406
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: round and stayed there and then actually, because there's only

1407
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: three weeks left the season, Oh my god, so we

1408
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: actually flew back to Baltimore the season was over, got

1409
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: it and got it and drove it home. Then but

1410
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: we went down to Miami and so I got there

1411
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock at night on Thursday night. Friday morning, six am.

1412
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: Was Gruden at the time, right, said no, no, it

1413
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: was Flores Flores.

1414
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was close. First year he had Gruden.

1415
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: It gotchah, yeah, well Harbor, Harball, I'll jump around, right,

1416
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: but it was Harbor. It was Flora's first year. And

1417
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: Friday morning, went down to Miami. See the doctors. They

1418
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: check you clear of you as in saying, okay, yeah,

1419
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: this guy's not hurt. They didn't cut someone that was injured,

1420
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: and like basically saying you're good to go. And so

1421
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: then Friday I was at practice field in Miami doing

1422
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: meetings and everything, practice squad or fifty you're on the

1423
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: fifty three, but something else I didn't know. Uh, only

1424
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: forty five dress. So there's a gap of eight players

1425
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: essentially that are on the fifty three. They're active or

1426
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: they're on the active roster, but they're not activated. So

1427
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: then I was one of those eight that didn't dress,

1428
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: and they were going up to They're playing the Giants

1429
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: that week, so I didn't travel that week. Flow was like, hey, look,

1430
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: get your brain right, get things organized. So the team

1431
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: leaves Saturday afternoon. I stayed in Miami and found a

1432
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: place to stay whatever, just think extended stay basically for

1433
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: three or four weeks. And then that next week was

1434
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: my first week playing. We went back to New York

1435
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: to play Jets Giants. They actually was met life back

1436
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: to back weeks.

1437
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1438
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Cincinnati, I had a pretty good game.

1439
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: Then first second remember the season and stuff like that,

1440
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: and okay, and then they I did enough those tree

1441
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: for them to sign me on a futures dealer or

1442
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: a one year deal basically, and then from there it

1443
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: was history just kind of slowly up, slowly kind of way.

1444
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it sounds like that's the one word

1445
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: that comes and comes to mind there.

1446
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: Keep getting extended and it's just been amazing. Blessing made

1447
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: a home down there, and now it's just been awesome

1448
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: to kind of coming the other side of things that's

1449
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: kind of weird or it's like I got it's like

1450
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: we got guys coming in. It's like they're asking your questions.

1451
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: Like that was just me. I feel like a week ago.

1452
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: Now it's like that was actually six years ago.

1453
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1454
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: That's so cool, and they got some great guys down there.

1455
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: It's been awesome. I'm excited. It'll be good year.

1456
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1457
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: Is that the one that's probably the one thing you'd

1458
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 3: tell people persevere just kind of like keep keep trucking.

1459
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: Keep truck and keep just man. It's just sometimes it's

1460
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: shut up and just keep working and other times it's

1461
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: like you do need to challenge, but like understanding, and

1462
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: my whole thing is understanding. Like if I'm doing something

1463
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: I have no reason why, I'll be like, Okay, why

1464
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: are we doing that? But if it's like I have

1465
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: a reason for it or a goal, Okay, I'm carrying

1466
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: these sandbags because I'm like carry Deer out of the

1467
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: Woods or something like that. I'll I just feel like

1468
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: I can go hot much and yeah, people down, do

1469
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: what you gotta do.

1470
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: That's all truth.

1471
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's been awesome and it's just we love

1472
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: it and it's been such a it's been it's been

1473
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: a journey, yeah, and it's been really cool. And it's

1474
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: for me. I love to be able to connect with

1475
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: some of the guys that are kind of in the

1476
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: same spot with me and just tell him, like, dude,

1477
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: just you gotta be ready, because so many guys you

1478
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: just think, oh, I'm not playing this week, and all

1479
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like, oh, hey, someone got hurt.

1480
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 1: You're dressing. Like my first time playing in Miami. That

1481
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: next year, someone was a coach, Hey, you're ready, You're ready.

1482
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: Ready.

1483
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm ready, I'm gonna play. And then

1484
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: Friday is like, yea, you're probably not gonna dress this week.

1485
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that sucks, but okay, at least I'm

1486
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: on the fifty three.

1487
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm here.

1488
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: And then Saturday and Friday, one of the guys is

1489
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: lifting and then popped his back or something got hurt.

1490
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: Not a defender, he was in special teams and some

1491
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: other stuff like that, and then they go, hey, you're

1492
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: dressing this week. I'm like, I'm dressing this week. I'm like,

1493
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: no one in the D line got hurt, and oh

1494
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: well someone else did, and then we have an extra

1495
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: spot and we want you up. I'm like, okay, cool.

1496
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: So I got like five or six reps on short

1497
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: yardist and goal line. And that's the other part would

1498
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: be being d lion when you're not you're not the guy,

1499
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: like your only reps in when you're like that. Yeah,

1500
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: and because when they're the jumbo and the heavy packages

1501
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Speaker 1: when you want five dlaman out there. So you're going cold,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you warm up before the game and

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Speaker 1: it could be an hour or till the second yeah,

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Speaker 1: second quarter whatever. To short artist comes in, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're in the most crucial moment where that's third and one.

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Speaker 1: We stopped them. We get a chance before that guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exacstlutely right. So I was just being ready. That's that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: You ready persevere.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's hunting, you know, it's all everything that

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Speaker 2: you just said is literally yeah, you know that's I

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Speaker 2: love it so much too.

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Speaker 1: It's that goal, that's the challenge of always being ready,

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Speaker 1: always being set.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, sweet, that's awesome, dude.

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Speaker 3: Well now we'll watch Lions first and then you're watching

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Speaker 3: some Dolphins football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, for sure. Love it, yeah, Zach, I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it all.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having us. It's awesome. Spot you got your

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Speaker 2: d dude. Yeah, we love it.