WEBVTT - Great Expectations w/ Lincoln Melcher

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 4>Done done.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, that's messed up an SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Liza Traeger, I'm Kara Klank and every week it's SVU,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crime, it's guests, and it's chatting.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Well right now I'm getting texts from my niece and

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<v Speaker 2>all caps. I love everything. Thank you so much. I

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<v Speaker 2>literally screamed when I opened it. You know, I got

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<v Speaker 2>her the v Man Connor Story magazine. But of course

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<v Speaker 2>I got her. You know, I got her a catnet magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know about this, but the bookstore that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>friendly with they have a cat Nip and a horse

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<v Speaker 2>Girl magazine for teen girls.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got her cat There are magazines for girls

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<v Speaker 1>that are enthusiasts of cats and horses.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so one is called Catnip and the others called

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<v Speaker 2>horse Girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I go, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know if I have a

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<v Speaker 2>horse girl in my life. Of course I have a

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<v Speaker 2>horse girl in my life. I'm sending it today.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know any horse girls, but

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<v Speaker 1>horse Girl. It's also a band, right, there's a band

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<v Speaker 1>called horse Girl. I have no idea. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I didn't know about this man. They're from

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<v Speaker 1>chag until yesterday. Honey, all girl band from Chicago. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>all girls.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, I don't know about bands,

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<v Speaker 2>but sorry, I knew she would love it. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the postal service and I'm so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats to Nissi for getting a nice gift.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And she has my dad's old Flyers jacket, which is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just love from the nineties, and wow, he got

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<v Speaker 2>it because with that warehouse of fashions, it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>we knew what the Flyers were.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes, you know, even a broken clock is right twice

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<v Speaker 1>a day, right, like sometimes you stumble onto some fashions

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<v Speaker 1>at the old.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know what I wish we still had.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a Ninja turtle sleeping bag. Oh what I

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<v Speaker 2>would kill the fucking habit.

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<v Speaker 1>The colors were so vibrant, so vibrant.

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<v Speaker 3>Low, are you what's up? You set off?

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<v Speaker 4>Pod?

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<v Speaker 3>That Rosie started baseball, right.

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<v Speaker 1>She's starting she had to do a she had to

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<v Speaker 1>do a evaluation, which I was like, oh no, this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be really bad because she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like never played before.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was literally like just running to first base

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<v Speaker 1>and she was she can do that. Like so we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you know, they have them do an evaluation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I call your daughter this bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>But Rosie is gonna have so much fun sliding and

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<v Speaker 2>like running. I think she's gonna get dirty and have

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<v Speaker 2>a good ass time. Yeah, here's the thing. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what to do about her fucking hair.

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<v Speaker 2>She won't let me tie it up. Her hair's never

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<v Speaker 2>tied up, it's down, it's longer than ever, and would

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<v Speaker 2>she could she do you know, like like an around

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<v Speaker 2>headband just to get it out here and then it

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<v Speaker 2>can just flight because early hair and sports do that.

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<v Speaker 3>They like, yeah, they just head band or like sports

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<v Speaker 3>headband the curls.

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<v Speaker 1>But like it can't be anything too tight, so then

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<v Speaker 1>will it really keep the curls.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, if the coach tells you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to tie your hair up, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>tie it up, And she said okay, she said okay on.

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<v Speaker 2>That because even this, like this might well she can't

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<v Speaker 2>do plastic because that's injury prone.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, she also wouldn't. She also wouldn't. She's

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<v Speaker 1>so sensory with like her different. She wears baggy clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>the hair is down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with her, I wear baggy clothes. Yeah, can she

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<v Speaker 2>What about a banana?

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<v Speaker 3>What about? What about this? What about gripping it like this?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I've tried.

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<v Speaker 1>I think even the teeth of those looks looks scary

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<v Speaker 1>to her.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen, she's down on her side, my fucking soul

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<v Speaker 2>cycle teacher today, hair down, flowing. She's a maniac.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't when I see people working out with their

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<v Speaker 1>hair down, I'm like, how are you doing that? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't have it a minute. I can't have

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<v Speaker 1>a strand on my neck or I like can't breathe,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just I don't know how people are doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, she's going to do baseball. That's gonna be exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else go.

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<v Speaker 2>Back, because like we still go to the when we

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<v Speaker 2>played sports, we'd go to the athletic like trainer's office

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<v Speaker 2>and we would take like material that they make lubricant

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<v Speaker 2>things out it. We would we would like make hair

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<v Speaker 2>ties out of fabric that they had at the athletic office.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't foam, but it was some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>material and we like would tie it behind and we

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<v Speaker 2>like loved using their materials for our headbands.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, that's what's.

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<v Speaker 1>In my head.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was soft. I just I have to contact

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<v Speaker 2>an athletic trainer. I don't I don't remember what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>There was like a roll of somebody. It was what

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<v Speaker 2>to wrap the ankle with. It's like if you were

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<v Speaker 2>wrapping your ankle, you would wrap it with this material

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<v Speaker 2>and we would take like it like not.

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<v Speaker 1>Like an ace, but the thing that's like it. It

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<v Speaker 1>heathsives to itself in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it's foamysh Yes, but not but yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>we would make headbands out of them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like what they give you when you give blood.

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<v Speaker 3>They like wrap it around your arm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tattooed. I can't really give blood. I'm like constantly,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's still a rule. I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>I I think so. But I'll give blood if they

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<v Speaker 1>want it. I mean, I'll do it. I always just

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want it. They want it. They're calling me

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<v Speaker 1>every other day. I've had to block the Red Cross.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, guys, I'm giving on a regular schedule. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, stop, I'm giving on a regular schedule. Stop

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<v Speaker 1>calling me. They call me the two days after I've given.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's actually against a medical advice. What okay? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so yesterday I went drinking at like happy hour.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on switching bars, we stopped at one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite little trinket stores, little gift stores, little pop culture,

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<v Speaker 2>little sticker stores. I go in, I get a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of stickers, and the woman working goes, wow, you got

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<v Speaker 2>all the new ones. I go, honey, I'm a regular.

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<v Speaker 2>I come to She goes, yeah, you grabbed every single

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<v Speaker 2>new one. I go, I know what I'm doing here.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was like an exciting day, and I

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<v Speaker 2>came back. I came back today to get more. Did

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<v Speaker 2>I get on Olivia Benson? I sure did? Olivia Benson sticker?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a good one. Miley Cyrus sticker, Taylor Swift,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, about two I'm sick.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, death becomes her sticker. Wait, do I have that sticker?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I have that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sure I gave it to you, but it's smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>it's smaller size.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this is the this is look it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like little training cards.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Shane and Ilios sports cards. Well I bought a few,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah. And then it's them in their turtle necks

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<v Speaker 1>or turtle neck outfits. So pretty exciting, pretty exciting at

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<v Speaker 1>the sticker store. But then I went today and I

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<v Speaker 1>showed her. I was like, you like keat a rivalry?

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<v Speaker 1>She said, yes, I showed her my Simpsons things. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to spread it through let people know about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been dipping in to I will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>one of two controversies I've been following away with on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait. One is the Lindy West stuff. Have

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<v Speaker 3>you heard any of this? Yes, I've had two friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually texted Ashley Hamilton of Good noticing is going girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I made your input immediately. I just got the text

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<v Speaker 2>in Julia read an article about I mean, we're looking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to read it. I heard that's I

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<v Speaker 2>heard upsetting things. Yeah, I heard upsetting things. Well it

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting to me because and I'm sorry you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>see the stickers, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I only showed Kara it is what it is. They're

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you imagine. They're the stickers that you're imagining,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know they are. I mean those they're like

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<v Speaker 1>little trading cards ones are really cute like but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I like have read Lindy for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>like not her books, but I would always read her

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<v Speaker 1>Jezebel and I really liked Shrill and uh that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her TV show that's based on her book.

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<v Speaker 2>And to me as a stand up she was always

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<v Speaker 2>annoying because she like went after a few people for

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<v Speaker 2>jokes that she just it wasn't good points. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>how on Camal Bells show, who I think is annoying too,

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<v Speaker 2>but like they were arguing about stuff like the jokes

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<v Speaker 2>she had an issue with bothered me.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe yeah they're back. I like I remember being

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed by her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the gist of it for anyone that doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about is like she's this like blogger

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<v Speaker 1>who was like very popular in like the aughts and

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<v Speaker 1>the ten Jezabel years, the Jezebel years, like big feminist

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<v Speaker 1>blogger wrote the book Shrill that was made into a

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<v Speaker 1>TV show with Adie Bryant, on Hulu. Then she's wrote

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<v Speaker 1>written this other book. So what happened essentially was her

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<v Speaker 1>husband cheated on her, and then when she found out,

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<v Speaker 1>he basically was like, oh, I need to be Polly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told you that when we first got together,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I told you that that I want to be Polly.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he just went ahead and cheated, Like being

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<v Speaker 1>Polly is not just going but I told you a

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<v Speaker 1>while ago I was interested in being Polly, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can just kind of enact the Pollyism whenever I want.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not really how it works. So then she eventually

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<v Speaker 1>so he was like, so this is my girlfriend. Now

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<v Speaker 1>either take it or leave it, essentially, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>eventually ended up. And I'm paraphrasing guys like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like the historian on this issue.

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<v Speaker 3>She eventually got in touch.

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<v Speaker 1>With the girl and then they started they basically started

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<v Speaker 1>a throatle like they so now they're in a throat

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<v Speaker 1>ble and what people they wrote this book together or

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote this book. She wrote this book, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very instrumental in the book. I'm very important to

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<v Speaker 1>the book, like I helped her.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole way. And it's like, but then you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>See that this was the backlash was going to come

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<v Speaker 1>from this, that people think that you're a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>shit because you cheated on her and then you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like held her hostage in the marriage to do

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<v Speaker 1>Polly with you like or that people. He basically says

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're I think, he says. So. Anyway, they

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<v Speaker 1>went a podcast referenced the book and said some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>about him, but I guess was pretty fair and was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like giving their honest opinion, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote her a really shitty email telling her how fucked

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<v Speaker 1>up it was that she wrote all this bad stuff

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<v Speaker 1>about him, and like obviously she yeah, because people don't

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<v Speaker 1>like what happened because it doesn't seem like and she

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<v Speaker 1>read the email on the podcast do It Oh whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>Which that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what intrigued me.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like like getting people into your podcast via gossip,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what I mean. Like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>they basically said, we got an email from this guy

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<v Speaker 1>after this interview.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to hear it, it's on this week's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And so everybody was like racing to the episode to

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<v Speaker 1>listen and to read this, to hear this shitty email about.

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<v Speaker 3>This do you like, what is it? Who was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's called I See Why am I? Or in case

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<v Speaker 1>you missed it, Slight's podcast about internet culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and so the way did you listen? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>know the email? What is the email?

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<v Speaker 3>I can read the email.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my friend just said it didn't seem like she

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted this, and that it seems a little desk

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<v Speaker 2>or like sad to stay in the thing that you're

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<v Speaker 2>forced into that you weren't into, and like.

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<v Speaker 1>That.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the social media posts that he does of the

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend versus how he treats Lindy seems different, like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to speak on just hear sating.

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<v Speaker 1>He also like really centers himself, like he talks about

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<v Speaker 1>how like the book, he was so instrumental in the

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<v Speaker 1>book being written, Like he makes it about him like

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<v Speaker 1>this man is a jazz musician, Like I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he makes like I'm just saying like I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he this. I think Lindy is his provider, like and

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<v Speaker 1>then he has to bring in like this other person

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not against Polly.

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<v Speaker 3>I have friends that are like it's totally fine. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>against it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm against it, you're against May go on the record

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm I'm very against it personally.

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<v Speaker 3>I yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's like there's other people, like, there's other ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to me, I don't like the word. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>you could just fuck a lot of people and be cool,

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<v Speaker 2>Like people are just cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Polly is losers.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's like like that, Okay, you don't like

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<v Speaker 1>what the name, what the word represents, but like to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a loser, and we're thinking of a particular person

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<v Speaker 1>I know we are, and I think he's a loser,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he should stay home with his wife

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<v Speaker 1>and childs okay, and not be going on dates with

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<v Speaker 1>random people.

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<v Speaker 3>It sickens me. I don't know what to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, Well, there's open and then there's Polly, Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>so what is it? Because open carry into open because

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool people, that's cool. Open is cool. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Polly is. You're playing like weird little games.

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<v Speaker 2>You're playing Settlers of Catan, you're at a little you're

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<v Speaker 2>having Chai Ti lattes, and you're doing weird sex. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I'm not interested. But I also know this

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<v Speaker 2>other couple. They're always having threesomes and the girls seems

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<v Speaker 2>really upset about it, and I'm like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>this is like what your life should be.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, yeah, the girl was so hot. I hated her.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's crazy that that's your sex life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like you should also be like, oh she's hot, let's fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like cool people fuck each other, Polly. People need

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<v Speaker 2>rules and discussions and Greek mythology brought in. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get it. Yeah, write me a d give me

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<v Speaker 2>a one star. I don't give a fuck. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm open. You should have the right to do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want. Yeah, you can do whatever you want it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's criminal. I'll support I will I

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<v Speaker 2>will die for your right to be able to be Polly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I'm holding my hall out of my stickers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm organizing way to eating rivalry stickers, calling these people losers.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, he's mad that people are like boiling him down

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<v Speaker 1>to a cheater, and like, I mean, I think in

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<v Speaker 1>one forum he said that like if you're anti poly,

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<v Speaker 1>you're racist.

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<v Speaker 3>Or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been saying wild shit and his sister I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize is the woman who wrote So you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Race? That book that like was very popular,

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<v Speaker 1>like around the pandemic, like twenty twenty. Oh, okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like you can do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that people directly feel that this man is like,

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<v Speaker 1>has narcissistic tendencies and sort of back door guilted his

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<v Speaker 1>wife into getting into a poly relationship. Now they're all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of trying to present that they're happy in it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild that nobody along the whole process of writing a book,

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<v Speaker 1>which as I can understand it from friends who have

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<v Speaker 1>written books, is a long process with drafts and editors

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people weighing in, and nobody was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna come off really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Like nobody they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually she's probably denial too.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. The cover is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I don't know. I don't know, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I felt.

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<v Speaker 2>Re talking about the thing I have known nothing about,

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<v Speaker 2>but I guess I found a.

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<v Speaker 3>Way to do well.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little bit of it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of goss on the internet that's been taking over

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<v Speaker 1>my life. But then also the Chapel Rome stuff seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be like really blowing up about the soccer player

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<v Speaker 1>and Jude Law's daughter. It's not Jude Law. It's Jude

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<v Speaker 1>Law's daughter. I thought it was a soccer guy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>soccer guy's stepdaughter. He's dating Jude Law's X. The girl,

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<v Speaker 1>the little kid is Jude Law's daughter. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if Jude has entered the chat. I like don't know

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<v Speaker 1>actually if Jude has weighed in at all.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but this one video where it's like, listen, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Chapel Roone like shove a woman on a carpet

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<v Speaker 2>that like worked for like a pr woman, like a

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<v Speaker 2>young black woman. Like I saw the video of her

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<v Speaker 2>shove and that's when I was like, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>like you, Like I don't like you shoving a person.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she's gen z, she whatever, she annoys me

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<v Speaker 2>in whatever ways. But someone was like, no one from

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<v Speaker 2>the Epstein list.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a band. The mayor is like, you'll never come

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<v Speaker 3>here again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like everyone's a rapist, every man an athlete, like

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<v Speaker 2>go fuck yourself. Same with like the bachelorette stuff. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she can't have a show. Of course, the domestic violence

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<v Speaker 2>is serious but it's like all athletes beat their fucking

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<v Speaker 2>wives like fuck you, Like I will never think a

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<v Speaker 2>woman is worse than a man. Ever, men are worse.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's the Catherine Heigel who ended up being

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<v Speaker 2>maga and weird, Like, I don't I think Chapel Rone's annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's gonna happen with her? Is she

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<v Speaker 2>the most annoying? Was it security?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I just would rather hate on

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<v Speaker 2>like men. Yeah, yes, important to me and fucked a nanny.

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<v Speaker 2>That's he should be banned from Brazil. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's been saying that, they're like wow, like Taylor Frankie

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<v Speaker 1>Paul is getting I'll be honest, but you also.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't have to be famous.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone I saw this online and we talk like if

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor wants to be seen, she's seen. She doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be seen. Guess what, we don't see her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like Chapel, you don't want to be famous.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to do the red carpet. Julia Roberts

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't do the carpet. People don't do the carpet. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want to be famous, babe, you can

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<v Speaker 2>enter through the back.

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<v Speaker 3>Rihanna.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look at Sea. Sea's there behind that wig. Get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. So I don't like, you don't get to screw.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh look everyone's taping. It's like you're going to a

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<v Speaker 1>hot spot dinner. Paparazzi are there and if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want that, go order in.

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<v Speaker 3>Bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>You're rich, you're rich, hire a chef. It's a little

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little annoying. I'm a hypocrite. I just said

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<v Speaker 2>we shouldn't yell at women like this, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, no, I think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's getting to a point where it's like we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing more about your need for privacy than we are

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<v Speaker 1>about your archistree.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that it's Jude Lah's daughter. Honestly, where's the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengo cards? Like, I mean, it's so crazy. I always say,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad Young looks like Jude Law. Like, my dad

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<v Speaker 2>Young looked like jud Law. Oh really, it was a hottie.

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<v Speaker 2>You go get some photos on the gram. I also

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<v Speaker 2>was also Chapel was in the Sorry Interrupts. Was in

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<v Speaker 2>the Hannah Montana special that I watched last night at

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<v Speaker 2>three in the morning. Really, yeah, they have to sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and Alex Cooper does the interview. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was hard for me in a lot of ways, but

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I missed Tannah Montana. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>too old. I was like, I missed it. I did too.

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<v Speaker 2>I came in for bangers, but I love her. I

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<v Speaker 2>love her, so of course.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I know, you're Miley, Miley for one. So today

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<v Speaker 3>it was so hard to get up.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to, but I was up, and I go,

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<v Speaker 1>just get to soul Cycle, get to the weed shop,

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<v Speaker 1>get to soul Cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>You could do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only thing keeping me through is Rachel loves Miley,

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<v Speaker 2>and I go, she's gonna play Hannah Montana. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Miley Day.

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<v Speaker 3>I show up. I go, girl, Miley or what because

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<v Speaker 3>there's O'miley on the playlist?

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<v Speaker 1>I go, are you on in your mind? I go

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<v Speaker 1>the special came out last night. I go, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think I'm here for? And she did put one

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<v Speaker 1>in for me. Thank you so much, Rachel shout out.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for changing your plans, Rachel, thank you. She

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<v Speaker 1>wrote Karen Guice instead, She's like, but listen, she made

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake. At least she took accountability. She owned up

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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, I know you are not really like a Mormon.

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<v Speaker 1>Wives person, but I have been like what back to

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<v Speaker 1>what you were saying before? This is like really crazy

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bachelorette. I'm like confused about what's happening with

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<v Speaker 1>the Boucherette because they hired her knowing that she had

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<v Speaker 1>this domestic violence incident that she pled guilty to in.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>They hired her knowing that, and then it was like

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<v Speaker 1>he leaked the video. This man, I mean, she's guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of her things. He is I think toxic and shitty

0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.240
<v Speaker 1>as hell, this man Dakota. But he leaked this video

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<v Speaker 1>to TMZ and now the show gets lost. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it, Like why is ABC acting like they didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people are saying the show never happened, it's all pressed.

0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Some people are like they're losing one hundred million dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone has like all these theories. I'm just so

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<v Speaker 2>out of the universe that I you know, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the video. It's horrific. But like also the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>were in it, like it is just it's all weird

0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:19.560
<v Speaker 2>choices but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really weird also that this guy just sat on

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<v Speaker 1>that video for two years.

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<v Speaker 3>Just kept it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they've been he's he's been on the TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>he's done scenes with her, he's you know, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing life with and then waited until she was

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<v Speaker 1>about to have a huge moment and released it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's But also I heard there's like a new incident

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<v Speaker 1>between so they need to just say they need to

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<v Speaker 1>be like fully not allowed to be near each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But ABC acting like they didn't know what was up

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<v Speaker 1>is so weird to me. But everybody's like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars in lost revenue and lost like expenses,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't get it. I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>release it. I think they're gonna wait for this to

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<v Speaker 1>die down and release it. Also, one of the contests

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<v Speaker 1>on The Bachelor, one of our friends wrote this to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a text thread goes also, did you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know that one of the contestants on The Bachelor is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who was in the car accident with Madison Cawthorne,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a Republican congress person who's paralyzed from the

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<v Speaker 1>waist down. And I was like, I'm sorry, what like

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<v Speaker 1>are you like? I was like, what is where are

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<v Speaker 1>we living in? One of the recent contestants on The

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelorette was in a car with a congressman when he

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<v Speaker 1>was paralyzed.

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<v Speaker 3>He fell asleep at the wheel. He was seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>He was driving the bachelor contestant and the guy, the congressman,

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<v Speaker 1>had his feet up on the dashboard and they got

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<v Speaker 1>into a car accident and that's why he got paralyzed.

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<v Speaker 1>And at first he said that his friend left him

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<v Speaker 1>there to die in a fiery inferno, but then he

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<v Speaker 1>walked that back and now they're friends. And now the

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor guy was at his inauguration party. Although that guy's

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<v Speaker 1>like not even in Congress anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, we're starting the episode. This is a two because

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<v Speaker 1>we got to start. We gotta start.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a really juice you kind of gossipy intro,

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<v Speaker 3>just intro.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to shout out to everybody who's been telling

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<v Speaker 1>me that provigil is an actual drug.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have received your messages and I stand corrected. I

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't even look it up. It just sounded too

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<v Speaker 1>made up to me, Like so I thought it was fake,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a drug I guess for ADHD and narcolepsy,

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody took such a cool picture in Saint Louis with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I posted it in our stories, but I love the

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<v Speaker 1>people from Saint Louis are wearing that shirt too, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, were happy to multipurpose.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, we're having fun.

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<v Speaker 2>With someone in Vermont and their mom's name is Lois,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was told that people are fucking up her

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<v Speaker 2>name left, right and center.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not a shirt. I'm not a shirt for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're having fun over on the Patreon. We

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<v Speaker 1>have cool interviews coming up, some true crime stuff, some

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<v Speaker 1>more comedians. So join us over there if you're interested

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<v Speaker 3>Slash that's messed up. Yeah, we gotta get moving. That's

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<v Speaker 3>got to get moving.

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<v Speaker 1>I got stickers to organize. Okay, we're doing great Expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>Season eighteen, episode eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I wonder why we picked this one. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>why we picked this one.

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<v Speaker 1>This has a little bit This is int the zeitgeist

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<v Speaker 1>with Casey actually helped shepherd this one to our attention.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit about about the hockey world. So

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<v Speaker 1>we open in a hockey rink and young team players

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<v Speaker 1>are just slapping that puck around. Parents are in the stands, cheering,

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<v Speaker 1>but also looking angry and stressed. I just I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time putting myself into a like carrying that

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<v Speaker 1>hard weather. Your kids like like game, like they win

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<v Speaker 1>their game. But I think that's why I'm not destined

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<v Speaker 1>to be a support parent. But Rosie is about to

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<v Speaker 1>start baseball, so we'll see what happens. Okay, So these

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<v Speaker 1>teens are slapping the puck and Kyle. We hear kids

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<v Speaker 1>going go Kyle, Go Kyle, and Kyle's heading for the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>He passes to his teammate Jack, who sadly does not score.

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<v Speaker 3>He boofs it. Everyone looks bummed.

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<v Speaker 1>The moms in the sands are like, great, now he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be upset, and the other mom is like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we win as a team.

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<v Speaker 3>We lose as a team.

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<v Speaker 1>And the dads are acting like, you know, all their

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<v Speaker 1>happiness lives and dies with pee wee hockey or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck this is. And the actor playing one of

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<v Speaker 1>the dads is known to me. He was the dad

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<v Speaker 1>in The Killing, which I was like a big fan of.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched like to both seasons of The Killing, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there were three. I think they're only two, which

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<v Speaker 1>was like a true crime show, not a true crime show,

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<v Speaker 1>like a crime show in Seattle or like Coastal Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just so rainy the whole time. But we

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<v Speaker 3>loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we think that this actor looks like our friend

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Donnelly, who's a comedian, had a baby with Louis

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<v Speaker 1>c K. So whenever I see him, I refer to

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<v Speaker 1>this man as Shawnie c K. So Shawnie ce K's

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<v Speaker 1>real name is Brent Sexton. And this man is working.

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<v Speaker 1>He has one hundred credits. He's been on Bosh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>been on Deadwood. You have seen him. He is out

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<v Speaker 1>there and he is talking shit about the kid who

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<v Speaker 1>missed the shot and his own son, Kyle, like Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have passed, he should have taken the shot. And

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<v Speaker 1>as the team gets off the ice, the dad's all

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<v Speaker 1>like change their tune and they're all like, yeah, go

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<v Speaker 1>white Caps. You guys got it. But Kyle and Jack

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<v Speaker 1>look devastated. Okay, they look like, you know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>killed their mom in front of them. So in the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, the coach is like very uninspiring and flat.

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<v Speaker 3>He's pissed. He's like, I'm not gonna say anything else

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<v Speaker 3>about the game. You know what you got to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice tomorrow at noon, come ready to work. And after

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<v Speaker 1>the coach leaves, two kids get up and starts screaming

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<v Speaker 1>at Jake for missing the shots. They're like, what the fuck, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you choked? And then Kyle breaks in to tell them

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<v Speaker 1>to chill out, and Jack looks bummed and sad, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>but Kyle is like, leave him alone. Stick. So we're thinking, oh, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>star of the team, nice kid. But now Jack is

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the rink with his mom and his hockey bag

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 1>that he looks like he could fit two of him in,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's twice his size.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like skiing but ten times worse, like so

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<v Speaker 2>much equipment, and it's smelly because you're just like in

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly, I think if your kid's a hockey kid,

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<v Speaker 2>you're being punished for sins from your past.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because rinks are only open super early, like baseball diamonds.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get to those lots of different times of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, you know, like rinks you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>like it always feels like hockey so early in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>The shit smells because you can't just throw that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in the wash like you can like baseball pants or

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like equipment, But I'm pro equipment. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>anyone getting a concussion anyway. So's so much work, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, that's why do you stand up? You need nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>You really need nothing. If they even if all your

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<v Speaker 2>luggage gets lost and you truly insane, you could still

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Get up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if there's no mic, which I hate when there's

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<v Speaker 1>no mic, you can still do it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I let hey, you could really do whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I the idea of having to tune an instrument

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<v Speaker 2>and then do a sound check and a rehar like

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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean we do do sound checks for our

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<v Speaker 3>last shows. It's just I do them, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jack is like walking with this massive bag and

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<v Speaker 1>his mom's like, god, you move like molasses. You're always

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<v Speaker 1>the last one out. She's like, it's like, Mom, relax,

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the kid just like fucked the game. Kind of not

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that I agree with that. I think like I've always heard,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've said it on this podcast before, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>like for it to get well, No, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you don't blame the goalie for letting a goal in,

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.479
<v Speaker 1>because it's like for it to get to the goalie,

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>it had to get through all of you first, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you miss a shot, that's just you missing

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<v Speaker 1>a shot, I guess. But you know you miss one

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of the shots you don't take. As they

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<v Speaker 1>say later in the su Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Since I've been reading some hockey books, I will say

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<v Speaker 2>that and a time to Shine, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>About like.

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<v Speaker 2>A goalie and like he saved forty and two went in,

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<v Speaker 2>like forty shots he saved, right, Yeah, it's a lot.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 2>So it's like even if you let too in, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like so impossible to do a full shutout. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the whole team. Like that's why loose dads shouldn't

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>coach stuff. Yeah, needs to be people that understand like sportsmanship,

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.640
<v Speaker 2>working together, working as a team. You don't blame people

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<v Speaker 2>all for what Like there's just like really great lessons

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>to learn in sports, and these dads shouldn't be there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think loose dads shouldn't coach. Stuff is merch to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jack is like limping a little and the mom

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<v Speaker 1>is like, did you get hurt like in the game,

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I'm okay, and then he just fully

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>collapses on top of his hockey bag on the ground

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and the mom is going to help him and she

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<v Speaker 1>notices blood on the seat of his pants, like and

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>she's like, where is that coming from?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's says to be so we know

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<v Speaker 3>nowhere good.

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<v Speaker 1>At the hospital, Careesy is filling in Benson that this

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 1>kid is Jack Wilson. He's thirteen. He plays for the

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>New York City white Caps. And Benson's like, what the

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>fuck is that? And he's like it's the best used

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>hockey program in the state and that the doc says

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that Jack has tearing in his rectum caused by a

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>blunt instrument like a hockey stick. So Carise goes sounds

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.439
<v Speaker 1>like a hazing and Benson goes, no, that sounds like

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 1>sexual assault, Like we got to start stop calling things.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, sounds like a date gone wrong, sounds like

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a hazing, Like no, it's sexual assault, like somebody assaulted

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>someone's body.

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 3>So then it's credits.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>And now we're at Jack's hospital bedside and he's trying

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>to downplay what happened, and his mom uses his first, middle,

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and last name and demands he tell the cops who

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>did this, and Benson's like, mom, back off, like let

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>me work my magic. I'm Olivia Benson. And she's like Jack, like,

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>tell us what happened, and he's very I don't know,

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I just fell, you know, like lie

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>lies out the wazoo and Cariese hears him out, but

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>then kind of like, oh, Cariese's like, okay, okay, so

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>what you're telling me you got this injury from falling

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>on the ice that led to rectal trauma, like you know,

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't say it like that, but it's like he's

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>basically telling him, like I'm listening to you, but we

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>gotta be realistic here, and Benson's like trying to be

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>so gentle. She's like, you know, if you want to

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>talk later, that's okay. We could talk later. And then

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Suddenly Jack zad arrives and the mom lays into him immediately,

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>like he just had to be on the white Caps,

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.239
<v Speaker 1>huh like, And Benson brings the Bickersons outside and they

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>keep it up, and the mom's like, I never even

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>really wanted Jack on this team, and the dad's like,

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I was a white Cap when I was a kid.

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 3>He loves it. And then he takes a.

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Dig at the cops, being like, well, he doesn't need

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>two cops hanging around and crease. He's like, your son

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>was sexually assaulted, and the dad's like, no, the doc

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>said he's.

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 3>Gonna be fine. It was a prank gone too far.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like who sees their son bleeding in the hospital

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>from his rectum and says, this is a prank gone

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>too far, Like I don't know, I mean, unless you

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>were like trying it, unless he did it to himself.

0:29:57.560 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>A jackass scene.

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Did you see like hazing photo or video that was

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>very weapons coded that came out like a month or

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>two ago. No, it was just like I think it

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>was an iweb but it was like all these frat

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>bros just standing in a corner Blair Witch weird and

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, like frats like haze these guys and

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>then put them into submissions so they continue protecting each

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 2>other forever.

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, they have these secrets and weird things

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>like dude, guys just need to fuck each other so

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>we don't have to.

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Live in there.

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just like you're paddling like I don't know

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 2>what you're raping this boy.

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Like you're like I can't, I can't, I can't.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like how they say in scientology, they do your

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>audit and then they keep it that they so that

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>they can like keep you in. Like frat hazing is

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's like, yeah, you can leave the frat or

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you can tell on us for doing something bad, but

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>we have photos of you, like naked eating mayonnaise on

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>all fours. Like when I was in college, all the

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>frat stuff that I've heard chat go to the chat,

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>go to go look. Everything at my college for hazing

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that I ever heard about was food related. It was

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>always like you've got to eat like a vat of mayonnaise.

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.719
<v Speaker 1>You got to eat all this nasty shit and it

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>was okay, wait, oh I don't like this, so weapons yeah,

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>but I've partied in basements that look just like that,

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and I feel really gross right now. Okay, a party

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that's like, I don't know, I know, it's creepy.

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Raise your kids not to want to be in frats. Yeah.

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>So then as they're talking to this dad who's like,

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just a prank, Kyle and his dad Shawnee c

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>k slash Jim.

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 3>The dad's name is Jim.

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>They walk up and we find out that Kyle is

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the star of the team, and Benson's like, did you

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>see anything in the locker room and he goes, no,

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it was quiet. Everyone got dressed and went home, and

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>he also says he also says, no one gave Kyle

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a hard time about the shot.

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 3>They're a team. We win or lose, we stick together.

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, okay, I mean he's covering for his

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>friends obviously, but it's like people did.

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Give him a hard time.

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>You could just say people were like saying some shit

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>to him, but I guess he didn't want to, you know,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>give suspicion on anyone else. And Benson goes to give

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Kyle her card. This is like such a subtle moment

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that I just happened to notice. Benson goes to give

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Kyle her card, and the dad grabs it, and Benson

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of clocks it and makes this really subtle, like

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>what's your deal kind of face. So the dad's like,

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>let's get you in to see Jack. He'll be so

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>stoked to see his best friend. Right, That's what like

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Jack's dat is saying. So Benson says, someone had to

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>have seen something in that locker room. So now she

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>sends the gang over. So at Hudson's Sports Complex at

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Hudson River Piers, which is just like exactly Chelsea Peers

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>where they shoot this show, Rollins and Finn are talking

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to the coach and he's like, this could have been

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>someone from another team, or it could have been a

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>white Caps player from a different division. There are ten

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>different divisions of white Caps, separated by age at skill level.

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And the coach thinks that none of his kids would

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>do something like this, that's so stupid and jeopardize the

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>big championship that they have coming up, Like they always

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>go to make it to States and they wouldn't do this,

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>And they're like any troublemakers on the team, and he goes,

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>they're all troublemakers. They're thirteen year old boys, and then

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Finn presses on him a little bit more. He narks

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>out these two kids, Timmy Brown and Will Harris. The

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>boys call them the Bash Brothers because they get rough,

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>but they wouldn't do something like this. It's a violation

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>of their contract, which is a code of ethics that

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>they all signed. And it couldn't have been a white cap.

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>So all right back at the precinct. Live comes in

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>asking where are we at with these Bang brothers, which

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought was funny because it's the Bash brothers, and

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Finn goes like McGuire and Conseco, and then Cariese goes

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>no like read importman silence, and he goes Mighty Ducks

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>two nobody like no one's picking up on his Mighty

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Ducks two reference.

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 3>And then the kids he goes, these kids have.

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>No record, they signed the contract, and then rollins pipes

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>in like, oh, I got something from the ring security

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>footage and it shows two boys leaving the locker room

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.239
<v Speaker 1>like haul and ass out of there, and one has

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>number twenty six and one has number nine, and then

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 1>ten seconds later Jack comes out and number twenty six

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and number nine are Timmy and Will aka the Bash

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Brothers aka the Bang Brothers, and so she's like, bring

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>him in. She goes, this wasn't a couple kids playing

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>grab ass. We need answers, So like that, okay, what

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>do you say. Yeah, we're talking to Will Harris now

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 1>and he's with his mom and he's telling him, well,

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I look, I don't talk to people after games. After

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>we lose, I'll get pissed. I don't speak we left early.

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I left early. And then they show him the footage

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and he's like that's not me and they're like, your

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>number's right there and they're like, that's your number.

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:24.439
<v Speaker 3>Spill right now.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>So we cut to Timmy with his dad talking to

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Creasy and he's like, we only stayed to make sure

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Jack was okay, and then Timmy goes, it wasn't our idea,

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>like we held Jack down, but he made us do it.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>He went crazy. I've never seen him like that before.

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 1>He was like an animal, and they're like you keep

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>saying he who is he? And then we cut to

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>the knock knock, knock on the front door of a

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>house and done Dunne, it's Kyle Turner opening the door.

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>So Shawnee c K's son The Star of the white

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Caps and Jack's best friend.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 3>What's happening.

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Kyle's mom and his older brother Adam and younger brother

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Mark are there and they tell the mom, Helen, that

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>they need to talk to Kyle and they need all

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>of his hockey sticks. He's under an investigation for assaulting

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>his teammate. And she looks at Kyle, and Kyle looks like,

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>what like confused and clueless, and that's the end.

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Of Act one.

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you something crazy. Okay, This actress Helen. Okay,

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the woman who's playing Helen the mom. Her name is

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Amy Spanger, who get this, was married to Michael c.

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Hall for four years before he was married to deb

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Aka Jennifer Carpenter, who I just found out is currently

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>married to one of the Abbot Brothers, which is her

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Abitt Brothers. They're like a pretty famous, like bluegrass duo

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>that I have a lot of friends that listen to them.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 3>And Amy is like a Broadway musical girlie.

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.240
<v Speaker 1>And after they got married, he was a shit billy

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Flynn and she was Roxy. They were opposite each other

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago together after they were married, but the marriage

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>was only four years. And she's also been in another

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>SVU called PTSD, but I don't remember that episode perfectly

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>right now, and I write in my notes she I'm

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>sure she's a beautiful woman in real life. The makeup

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>department is working hard to make her look haggard in

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>this episode, right, like they're really like they make her

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.959
<v Speaker 1>look very tired, very like this life it's been hard

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 1>for her.

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:14.439
<v Speaker 3>Life's been hard.

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's like up at the rink and she's there's

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>been issues for her for sure, Like she's not I

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 1>don't think we see her smile. So anyway, interesting little

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>factoid about her being married to Michael Seahall and then

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>he married I.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Knew the Michael sea Hall story because he like loves

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>to end up with a co star, but I didn't

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>realize it was this woman or anything like that.

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's pretty exciting. Yeah.

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 1>So in Cement Roombars at the top of back two,

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Kyle's mom is like sexual assault, not Mi Kyle classic.

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Benson's like, well, we have witnesses that say Kyle was

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the main aggressor.

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.919
<v Speaker 3>And then Cariese's like, let me talk to Kyle. Let's

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 3>talk hockey guy to hockey guy.

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>You like Wayne Gretzky, h y number ninety nine and

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 1>he's like, uh yeah, like hockey's the best spot ever.

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Like he's ear to ear while he's in.

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>A full bars holding cell like in derogation room, and

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.399
<v Speaker 1>he's like, what if your whole hockey life just went away?

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, what are you talking about?

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, this is a violation of your contract

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and Helen is like, you can't kick him off the

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>team and it's like, bitch, do you even realize that

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>this is like a crime the team And ben Sin's like,

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 1>we could do worse.

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 3>We could throw his ass in jail. And Kyle's like

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I might lose hockey, no way.

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>And then outside Jim Turner arrives and the dad and

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>he's like Rollins greets him. He's like, where's where's my son?

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>And they're like you know, and he's like, I want

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to take Kyle home. And she's like, well, we already

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>got your wife's consent to talk to him. And you

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>see this guy, He's like no, no, no, no, no no no,

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:44.839
<v Speaker 1>like I decide what happens with my son me, Like,

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>my wife cannot give consent for anything my son does.

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm the boss, right.

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>So we're getting there, you know, SV's laying their breadcrumbs,

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and Benson arrives and Jim is like, I don't care

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>what my wife said to you.

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Kyle is not talking to you. He's got too much

0:37:58.080 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 3>to lose.

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, well, we have two witnesses that saw

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 1>him assault his teammate.

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, I don't care if you have two

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:05.760
<v Speaker 3>hundred witnesses.

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>He got the wrong kid, and Jim threatens to call

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>lawyer and Benson goes, you know what, that's okay. We'll

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>get your son right now for you, and Rollins says like,

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna just like turn this kid loose, and Benson goes, well,

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the lab tested all the hockey sticks. I love how

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>fast all the testing happens on the show. The kid

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>has been in the custody for two hours, and they're like,

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the lab's already back. No DNA on any of the

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>hockey sticks. They got nothing to go on. So he

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>must have ditched the stick that he used to do

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>the assault. So she wants Finn and Rollins to get

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the truth out of Jack first thing the next day.

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>So now talking to Jack, telling them, you know, Rollins

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>does her things.

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 3>She kind of bluffs.

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>She goes, we already know, like the person that did

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>it already told us, like what happened, and they kind

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of tricked Jack into saying that it was Kyle. And

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the parents are gagged, gooped and gobsmacked like they cannot

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>believe it. They're like, Kyle his best friend. Dad says,

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.919
<v Speaker 1>forget about the team, just tell them. And then Jack said,

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd never seen him like that before, and then Rollins's

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>like who, and he's like Kyle, So they get the

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>confirmation that they need and he's like he was like

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a whole other person.

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 3>And then Timmy and Will grabbed me. I couldn't move

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:13.399
<v Speaker 3>or fight back.

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Kyle looked at him like all crazy with a stick

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 1>in his hand, and then he said and then it

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>was over. So it's pretty fucking traumatic to see your

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>best friend not only assault you out of nowhere, but

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>like undergo what seems like a werewolf transformation and just

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>become like a totally crazy, crazed person. And the mom

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get it. She's like, Kyle came to visit Jack

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital, like what the hell? Like that's diabolical,

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and then they tell Jack, well, we're gonna have to

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>go arrest Kyle, and he's like, okay, well tell him,

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I know he didn't mean it, Like he's still like

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to protect his friend.

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 3>It's like really sad.

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>And then at Kyle's house, Cariesy and Benson come a

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>knock in and older brother Adam opens the door and

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>he's like, well, my parents aren't home. Kyle got hurt

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>during practice. They're aut the hospital. At the practice, the

0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>cops roll up on the turners and tell them that

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>they're there to arrest Kyle.

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Jim doesn't let his wife talk.

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>She tries to say up thing, and he's like, shut

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>your mouth and tells the cops that like, don't you

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>realize what's going on here? Kyle may have broken his wrist,

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.280
<v Speaker 1>acting like that's the tragedy of the century, while another

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>child sits traumatized and bleeding at another hospital across town,

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, well he heard it at hockey practice,

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Like we have a lot going on right now. This

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>man like classic just such a narcissist. And Benson is like,

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to talk to us, but we are

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>going to arrest your son, so deal with that. Benson

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and Creesy then go talk to the doctor who says

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>that the injury suggests someone twisting his wrist violently, and

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Creasey's like, so not like a hockey injury. And the

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>doctor's like, well it could be. I mean it's not likely,

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's possible.

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 3>And then the.

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Doctor's like, I can't tell you any medical files unless

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you have a subpoena. But Benson's like, yeah, but you

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>are a mandated reporter. So are there injuries consistent with

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>like long term abuse? And he's like, yeah, there are.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>There are like old fractures, like old spinal like they

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>just spiral fractures like that are consistent with someone who's

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>been abused. So now Benson and Creasy goes see Kyle.

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 1>His arm is in a sling. They tell him they

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>got to bring him to the priestinct for questioning. He

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>gets really worked up.

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I want my dad.

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I got to talk to my dad. And Crisey's like, well,

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>what happened to your wrists? He goes, I fell at practice,

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>like he and then he goes but it was it

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really practice. It was just me and my dad,

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 1>So what they were just doing one on one practice

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and then the dad. But my dad didn't see it.

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 1>My dad didn't see it happened. So it's like it's

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.760
<v Speaker 1>all wise right, like that of this seems real. Caresy

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 1>is like, listen, little buddy, we think you're lying. And

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the doc says that you have old injuries that seem

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>like you've been abused. Kyle's getting very shifty, very nervous.

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 1>He says, no one's hurting him.

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 3>He just fell.

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Benson is like kneeling down, smiling at this kid with

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 1>her beautiful face and going, you could go to prison

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>for what you did to.

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 3>Like she's like, I like water.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, god, she looks so pretty. She's like

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>bending down and like a let me get like on

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>your level. And then she's like you're gonna go to

0:41:56.800 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>jail with adults, like you know, and he's like I

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 1>thought only adults could go to prison, and Benson's like, nope,

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 1>kids can go too, And then he's like, you have

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>to tell us if someone threatened you or made you

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>do this, and his parents walk in, obviously right at

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that moment, and say you don't have our consent to

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>talk to him, and they're like, well, guess what, babe,

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>we do not need your consent, right, now, because right

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>now we're talking to Kyle as a victim, not as

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a perpetrator. And Kyle's like, I told him I fell

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.399
<v Speaker 1>to the dad. You know, he doesn't want to piss

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>his dad off. Benson's like, you guys have two choices.

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I arrest Kyle right now, or we all go down

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to the precinct and talk this out along with your

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>other two sons. And Jim's like, great, let's talk this through.

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the bottom of it. We got nothing

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to hide. And the mom looks nervous, but she's like,

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's trying to be like right, yes, go team,

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>we are all going to be at the precinct telling

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the absolute truth. But you know, we're getting the vibe

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that something is very fucked in this family. So now

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Finnish talking to Adam, the older brother, and like, oh,

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you and your brother fight. He's like yeah, I mean sometimes,

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>but like we're super close, Like I would never heard him.

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>We're best friends. We look out for each other, always have,

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>always will. And now we're talking to the mom. Amy

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Spanger Helen and Rollins is like, does Jim ever get

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>rough with Kyle? And she goes, no, that's not something

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 1>that happens in our house, and then the medical records

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>tell a different story. And then she just looks at

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Rollins like she has like she's speechless, and Rollins is like,

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't get it, Like your son's crime is serious.

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 3>If he gets convicted, he will go to prison. And

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 3>she's like, but.

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.359
<v Speaker 1>He's only a boy, and Rollins is like, yeah, so

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>we want to give the prosecutor a reason to help Kyle.

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 3>So we need your help to do that.

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Tell us what's going on between Kyle and his dad,

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.439
<v Speaker 1>and at least do it for Mark, like the little

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>brother like and they look through the you know, the

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>fish bowl glass, and the little Mark is just like

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 1>coloring or whatever. The next in line, Crisey, is now

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 1>in cement room bars with Kyle, telling this eighth grader

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that he's going to prison, and then he's like, unless

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you tell us who hurt your wrist and he's like,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I love my dad. He's just helping me

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.399
<v Speaker 1>become a better player. And Carisey's like, it won't matter

0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>when you're behind bars, little guy. And now that dad

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Jim is intrment room bars with Rollins and he's like,

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this is a misunderstanding.

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 3>How do we make it go away? And Rollins is like, uh,

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:07.280
<v Speaker 3>we don't.

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>We might be able to make his punishment less severe,

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, how do we do that? He

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 1>goes if you admit to abusing him, and he's like,

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, and he like laughs. He's like, my parenting

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>style might be old school, but it's never physical. And

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>he's like, Kyle wants to be great at hockey. I

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 1>know how to get him there. I came close to

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:28.280
<v Speaker 1>being pro myself. And there's just so many failed dads

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>on this show. It's this is exactly the same mentality

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.439
<v Speaker 1>of the dad of Elsa's dad from Hothouse, Like.

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 3>I was almost pro.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I can make you good, like you know, It's like

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>they're just guys that never got their fucking shot, being

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>like now's my second chance through a kid, right.

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 3>It's sadness anyway.

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>And so Rollins is like, okay, so how do you

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>explain all these injuries? And Jim's like, uh, he's a

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.839
<v Speaker 1>hockey player. He gets hurt, but he plays through the pain,

0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:00.840
<v Speaker 1>not complaining like his pansy friends, and then sounds like

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a really great dad. And Benson on the other side

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of the glass with Finn is like this family's not talking,

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's pretty clear. So they arrest Kyle, and Jim

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is like blaming political correctness. He's like, you guys with

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>this PC crap, like it's PC. Kid's in a hospital. Yeah,

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it's PC to be like, don't sexually assault another child

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.720
<v Speaker 1>with a hockey stick, Like you guys are so woke,

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're like He's like, there were just kids screwing around.

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Kyle will be arraigned in family court later this afternoon,

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>they tell him so. Then later Careesy tells Rollins that

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Kyle was released into his parents' custody, and a lawyer

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>at Corporation Council, which is Pippa as we remember that's

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>what they call like these family court type of prosecutors

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>is getting pressure from upstairs to try Kyle as an adult.

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:49.399
<v Speaker 3>And Rollins is like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought we were just dangling that to like traumatize

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>him and get him to talk.

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 3>He's just a kid. He's not like really going to

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:54.879
<v Speaker 3>go to jail.

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 1>And Cariese's like, yeah, I mean they want to make

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>an example of him because of increase in hazing in Ins,

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 1>So like you know, send this kid to jail, send

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a message like you want to fuck around in what

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 1>you think is an innocent hazing, you could go to

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 1>jail too. So Rollins is like, well, the mom's at

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>fault too, Like she just stands there and lets it happen,

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Plastic Rollins. If there's a way to blame a woman,

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Rollins will figure it out. At least season fifteen to eighteen,

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>she figured. I think she figures things out a little

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 1>bit later. But so she's like basically telling her telling

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Carisy like, I think she's just as abusive as the

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>dad because she just stands there and lets it happen.

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.919
<v Speaker 1>And Crissey's like, I hear what you're saying, but it's

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>not that simple, and Rollins is like, yeah.

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 3>It is.

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>If someone fucks with Jesse, I kill them, like basically.

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 1>And Carisee's like, you don't think this woman is a

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>victim too? Maybe you get it's not only physical abuse, right,

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.720
<v Speaker 1>but there's like shame tied up in this as well,

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:51.399
<v Speaker 1>And she says, yeah, but that's why bullies get away

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 1>with it. But it's like, yeah, look at like Elsalychkov's mom.

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 1>If we're going back to that example, like she was

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>like I let him hurt my beab, like she had

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 1>so much shame, like she couldn't back.

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he was hurting her as well.

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 1>So luckily CARIESI gets a phone call before he has

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 1>to fully explain domestic violence to Rollins so that they

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.799
<v Speaker 1>stop their argument and he has to go meet Live

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>at the hospital. But not before Rollin, he tells Rolins,

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes it's not as easy as you think

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:17.439
<v Speaker 1>to be a hero.

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 3>So we leave her on that.

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 1>At the hospital, a nurse tells them some sad news.

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Jack died twenty minutes ago.

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 3>They didn't have to do that. They didn't, but I

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 3>think they had to up the stakes. They didn't have

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 3>to do that.

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, pretty fuck Like I'm so sad thinking

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 1>about that little kid like.

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Ben's And at the end of the day, all these

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 2>all these dads are cowards because they're letting their kids

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 2>go to jail. Cause I'm thinking about what's his face

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 2>and man up?

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Man down?

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Dylan Walsh, Yeah, like you know, it's just like

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you're you're willing to let your kid fucking suffer for it,

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Like you're you're a coward. Actually, yeah, well and a narcissist.

0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 1>You're like, I was trying to make you an man.

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 1>If you can't handle it, then you need to take

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the punishment, Like I was just doing what I have

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to do as your dad. Like it's so fucking gross

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 1>and dark you had to rape your friend? Like sorry, fuck,

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:15.879
<v Speaker 1>I hate him. The dad like just so consistently lies

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the entire time. You got the wrong kid. This was

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>just a joke, Like this was just like you know then,

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 1>even like he never even is shocked when confronted with

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>his lies or when like the truth comes out. He's

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 1>never even like wait what Kyle, what'd you do? He's

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 1>always like, nah, this was a joke, Like how do

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>we make it go away? Like, I don't know, I

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 1>hate this guy. Benson obviously gives one of her classic

0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>like sharp inhales that when they find out that Jack

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 1>has passed. So now Benson's talking to Jack's parents, They're like,

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>he had a fever. They said he just needed fluids

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and antibiotics and that he was gonna be okay. Then

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>his blood pressure dropped. They rushed into the ICU. It

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>was an infection. Oh, you're watching the pit you know.

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 1>The infections are the worst thing that can happen, you know,

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 1>sepsis this. So the dad's like, someone's got to pay

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.720
<v Speaker 1>for this, and they're like, well, don't worry, we're charging

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>your eighth grade son's best friend with manslaughter.

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 3>That should cheer you up.

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 1>And the dad goes, you can go ahead and charge Kyle,

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>but his six son of a bitch dad is the

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>one you should be going after. And Jim, he's like,

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Jim got into Kyle's head, turned him into a bully,

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and he did that to the older one too. And

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Mark is next. He's always berating him, pushing, grabbing, like

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 1>he's basically saying like he didn't really see like a

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>major abuse, but like with guys like that, he says,

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you can just tell I still think pushing and grabbing

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>is abusive, but like, well.

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Especially if you see it, that means he's willing to

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 2>do it in front of you, and like, yes, in public.

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 3>So what do you think he's doing at home?

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, like grabbing him to talk to him like that.

0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like that's he probably thought that wasn't enough to

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 1>like call the cops, because honestly, I think if you

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 1>do call the cops on something like that, they necessarily,

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>like they'll they'll be like, there's not really enough that

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>what Well, they'll relate to the dad yeah and be like, actually,

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't make that shot. It's okay to touch your

0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>child on the shoulders while you tell them what to do,

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like they'll be like, my kid does this

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:04.280
<v Speaker 1>all the time too, Like with Gabby Patito, my wife,

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I just tell her.

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 3>To take a shower.

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, they're telling so basically Jack's parents are like, he's

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>just as responsible this guy Jim. So now back at

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the precinct, they've got some new footage from a goalie's mom, okay,

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's this video of Jim like laying into Kyle like,

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 1>like I said, holding him by the shoulders, like talking

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:28.760
<v Speaker 1>to him like really really aggressively, right after that game.

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>And it seems like they're like, it seems like he's

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>telling Kyle to give Jack a beat down, although like

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 1>you can't you can't be sure what he's saying. They

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.439
<v Speaker 1>got to get that lip reader girl from TikTok in there,

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.720
<v Speaker 1>so they bring this to Kyle and they're like, listen,

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty soon, we're gonna get the audio on this from Taru,

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 1>and so just tell us if your dad told you

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to hurt Jack and he's like he didn't, and they're like, Kyle,

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Jack is dead, like someone has to pay. And then Adam,

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>the older brother is there and he's like Jesus Christ,

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>just tell them the truth. And the mom is like, Adam,

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 1>shut it. Everything is going to be okay, and Benson

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 1>is like, bitch, snap out of it. Everything is not

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:08.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be okay. That ship sailed when a kid died.

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Like the mom is definitely like traumatized. She's like, if

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you just keep saying everything is okay, everything is okay,

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, like she cannot handle what's going on. She

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>does not know what to do. And they're like, tell

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 1>your son to tell the truth. But as we've seen

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>six times already in this episode, right as maybe a

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>kid is about to tell the truth, the dad bursts

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in and everyone shuts the fuck up. So Kyle repeats,

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>he didn't tell me to do anything, and Benson is like, okay, sweet,

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 1>we'll see you in court where Kyle is being charged

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 1>with sexual assault and manslaughter as an adult.

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Kyle looks terrified.

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Jim tries to touch his wife like around the like

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:42.800
<v Speaker 1>put his arm around her and she's like, don't you

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 1>even think about Like so that's the first time you

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of see the mom like resists the dad a

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit. She like recoils when he tries to touch her.

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:50.319
<v Speaker 3>So now in.

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Family court, Kyle is pleading not guilty, and the judgees

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:55.360
<v Speaker 1>in the midst of releasing Kyle into the custody of

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>his parents. When Adam stands up and storms out of

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the courtroom, Jensen and Finn follow. Adam is pissed. He's like,

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:04.759
<v Speaker 1>my brother's going to jail. Why aren't you guys trying

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to help him. Benson's like, babe, that's kind of all

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>we're doing. And he's like, the only thing that will

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 1>move the needle will be Kyle testifying that his dad

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>told him to assault Jake, and little Bro is like,

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 1>he won't do it. My dad's got him all twisted up,

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, so help us change his mind. So

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 1>later we're at the precinct. It's nighttime at SVU and

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:27.279
<v Speaker 1>uh Careesy picks up the phone. He's like, all right, missus,

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Turner will be right over. So he grabs Rollins and

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:32.800
<v Speaker 1>he's like, Jim Turner just beat the shit out of

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 1>his son.

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Adam again.

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like these men, the way they commit more crimes

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:38.800
<v Speaker 1>while they know that all eyes are on them.

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Is so wild.

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:43.799
<v Speaker 2>It's like but because they can't, you know, because they

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 2>actually are so weak minded, Like, yeah, if you fall

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.720
<v Speaker 2>to violence like that, you're like an idiot. Yeah, truly.

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 2>At the turn, this boy looks fucked, fucked. It's some

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 2>of the worst injuries we've ever seen. It looks awful.

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like the eye is bubbling, yes, I is.

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Like swollen shut bubbling, bruised blood all over his face.

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 1>He's gasping for breath like this. This actor does a

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.359
<v Speaker 1>great job with like the breath stuff, because usually it's

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 1>just somebody lying their bloody quiet and he's like like

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:15.399
<v Speaker 1>he can't breathe, and the mom is just standing over him.

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 3>She's not like dabbing any of the blood away.

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I know, you don't touch somebody like if

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>they might have a spinal injury or whatever. But she's

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>not even like holding his hand on the ground like

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.439
<v Speaker 1>help is on the way, Like she's just standing there.

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>She's obviously traumatized and paralyzed, but I'm kind of like

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a kind word maybe, And she tells cariesy that Adam

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 1>just kept pushing Jim's buttons. I couldn't stop it, and

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Jim just ran out of there. So he's in the

0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 1>wind and they're like, where's Mark. Luckily at her mother,

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.439
<v Speaker 1>so she knew enough to get her littlest guy out

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:48.719
<v Speaker 1>to another place. And Adam is like, well, you needed

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:51.280
<v Speaker 1>a way to He's like talking through blood and swollen

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:53.680
<v Speaker 1>like appendages, going you.

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 3>Need a You needed a way to get Kyle to talk?

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:56.319
<v Speaker 4>This is it?

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.360
<v Speaker 1>And he points to his phone, which is like on

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:02.279
<v Speaker 1>a credit leaning against a candlestick, and it looks like

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 1>he recorded the entire thing. So now and I wrote, yes,

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Adam's face is fucked, and he tells his brother stop

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>protecting dad.

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:10.399
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't deserve it.

0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 1>And Kyle's there and he's like looks just like looks

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 1>upset and torn, Like this kid is fucking traumatized. So

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 1>now we're seeing the video of Adam baiting his dad

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>into a fight.

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:21.319
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'm not afraid of you.

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 1>He calls him a loser, he calls him a coward,

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know that sets the dad right off. He

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:28.279
<v Speaker 1>punches him and when he's on the ground, he just

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 1>starts stomping him, and the mom is screaming like the

0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:33.719
<v Speaker 1>video is a lot to even the short piece that

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:36.799
<v Speaker 1>they show us, and the sound of it, it's horrific,

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and so now Rollins has to talk. They send Rowins

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 1>in to talk to the mom, even though she might

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>not be the best person for that, and she's like

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:45.879
<v Speaker 1>trying to cover it.

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:49.279
<v Speaker 3>And Rollins is again.

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 1>To the mom, like, how do you not get that

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 1>your thirteen year old son is going to prison? And

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 1>then she's like, but if I tell Kyle to testify,

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Jim goes to jail.

0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.320
<v Speaker 3>And that seems like it'll help everybody.

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, She's like, well he broke Kyle's wrists and beat

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Adam to a bloody pulp. So and Helen's like, well,

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 1>he didn't mean to. He loves him. The boys love

0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>him like they're a good he's a good man. And

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:14.399
<v Speaker 1>then she just decides to fest. She goes every day

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.719
<v Speaker 1>for the past five years, I wake up and I

0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:17.759
<v Speaker 1>say I'm going to take the.

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:18.719
<v Speaker 3>Boys and leave.

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:23.320
<v Speaker 1>And then every day he buys my mom her arthritis medication,

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:26.440
<v Speaker 1>or he mowed my mom's lawn, or he tells me

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he loves me, And I say, this is a good man,

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and then she goes, but then and then Rollins goes, yeah,

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he changes and he gets abusive because that's also part

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 1>of who he is. And she goes, it's just so

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.320
<v Speaker 1>hard to accept that you picked this man to spend

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 1>your life with and have kids with, and you just

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 1>try to fix it. And Rollins is like, yeah, but

0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not fixable. And Kyle is just a boy. You

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.800
<v Speaker 1>can fix him, like you can help him now before

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 1>he grows up to beat his own children up. So

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.440
<v Speaker 1>first you have to convince him to testify that his

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 1>dad forced him to assault Jack.

0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:57.760
<v Speaker 3>So now we're.

0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Talking to Kyle with his mom in cement room bars

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and they're shutting a laptop like they just watched the

0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 1>video of the dad beating the shut out of his brother,

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 1>as if he wasn't there in real life, like just

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 1>here's a refresher. And he goes, Adam was right, he goes,

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 1>my dad did tell me to assault Jack. He wanted

0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Jack to know that he couldn't screw up anymore. He

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 1>told me to use the stick. He said, that's how

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to do it. I didn't want to hurt Jack.

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:23.160
<v Speaker 1>He was my friend. But he also doesn't want to

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 1>rat his dad out. He loves him, and Carisi goes

0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>into anecdote mode. Okay, He's like, when I first saw

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Jack in the hospital, I was upset and angry at

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.120
<v Speaker 1>who did it because Jack reminded me of me. I

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 1>was a squawny kid, the kid the guys the neighborhood

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>would pick on me. The worst kid was Bobby b Yankee.

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 1>One day he shoved my face through a plate glass window.

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:48.280
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I just needed to get to Bobby b Yankee.

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 3>I just had to get to that part. So he's

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.719
<v Speaker 3>telling a story about how one time, like a kid,

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 3>a fucking bully named Bobby b Yankee.

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Shoved Carisee's little and you know, Caresee's like a thin

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 1>man now, you know, he was a scrawny little like

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 1>little shrimp in school and this.

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Kid shoved his face through a plate glass window.

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:08.759
<v Speaker 1>And then the principal asked Carisy what happened, and he goes,

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I could have ended it, but I didn't, and he

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.040
<v Speaker 1>got away with it, and no one ever knew what happened.

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 1>And you know where Bobby Byanke is now in sing

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:18.480
<v Speaker 1>sing for stabbing some poor sap to death in a

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>bar fight and he goes and now I just think

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 1>if I had said something, maybe that guy would still

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:26.040
<v Speaker 1>be alive. I missed my shot and I regret it

0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:28.840
<v Speaker 1>every day. And this is your shot right now. And

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.480
<v Speaker 1>if not for you, Kyle, do it for Mark. What

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:33.480
<v Speaker 1>happens when he gets older and you're not around to

0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 1>look after him. You know, you're like five years away

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 1>from getting out of the house, both of you, and

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>then you'll both be gone and it'll just be Mark

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and the parents.

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Jesus.

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:42.640
<v Speaker 1>If you talk to the judge, they tell him this

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 1>can go back to family court and you would do

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>less time. Kyle thinks about it and he goes, Okay,

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it, and they're like, we also need your

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 1>help finding your father. And then walking out of that room,

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Finn goes to Creasy nice story, man, you're quick on

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 1>your feet, and Crisey's like, yeah, you gotta do what

0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do, and Rollins is like that was straight

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>out of your autobiography, Like that was all true and

0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I know it, and Carsey just walks away.

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like, let's put you know, put two and two

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 3>together here. Girl.

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 2>That's always like such a classic SVU trope of like,

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:18.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, when they get personally connected, Yeah, they tell

0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:18.640
<v Speaker 2>a tale.

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's munch going. When I was little, across the street,

0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>there was this girl. She always had bruises, she always

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>had cuts, and I never said anything. And then she died.

0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's not a good munch. But you know what

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Okay, so you're still in carese mode. I'm

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:34.120
<v Speaker 1>still in careesy. It's hard to get out of it.

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I got to get my dialect coach.

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 1>So, at the ice rink, Kyle is just sitting at

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the ice rink by himself in the stands, and Jim

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>shows up, and so he's like, so, what's got you

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>so worried that I needed to come all the way

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 1>out here. It's like, I don't know, Dad, last time

0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw you, you were beating my brother bloody to

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the point that one of his eyes is not functioning.

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, Kyle's like, everything is screwed up. You

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 1>told me to do that to Jack. You said it

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>would help. You said it would help the team. And

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 1>he goes, yeah, so I told you to fucking assault

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>your friend and not every plan works out. Okay, why

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:13.000
<v Speaker 1>are you being such a bitch? Not to tell you

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:15.320
<v Speaker 1>to do is gonna be one hundred percent. Like he's

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:18.439
<v Speaker 1>acting like it's like they hit traffic. Yeah, like what

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the fuck? Yeah, Like it's so crazy, and he goes,

0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 1>not every We're just gonna roll with it, that's all.

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 1>And then this man is like the worst out of

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 1>all time. He's like, chill baby. He goes stud athletes like,

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't go to jail, that's the thing. It's like

0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 1>he's also like using his own delusion that stud athletes

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 1>don't go to jail, and it's like, you're not right now,

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, before you beat your son up, you

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 1>weren't really facing any consequences. You just were operating under

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:46.520
<v Speaker 1>these studt athletes don't go to jail, like school of law,

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 1>which isn't real, and uh, your son would be the

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<v Speaker 1>one paying all the prices on that.

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<v Speaker 3>So then he's like.

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<v Speaker 1>You just need to keep your head up, your mouth shut,

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 1>and let your lawyer handle it. And he's like, you

0:59:57.800 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 1>got good things come in your way. Then you're gonna

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.640
<v Speaker 1>do co puck. Then you're gonna go pro. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>teach Mark together, me and you, we whip him into shape,

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<v Speaker 1>toughen him up, and then the Turner boys are the

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<v Speaker 1>face of the league.

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<v Speaker 3>We can have our own dynasty.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this guy is the delusions of grandeur are

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<v Speaker 1>out of control. That's when the cops show up. They

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<v Speaker 1>interrupt his dumb little fantasy speech. Kyle looks really sad.

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<v Speaker 1>The dad goes everything you haven't accomplished, I taught you

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<v Speaker 1>how to get it, and the dad the Col's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, dad, I let you down.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I know that's.

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<v Speaker 3>The sad part too. He still feels bad.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna feel bad and think he did something wrong

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<v Speaker 2>until he gets years of therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I don't know if his mom is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>even let him go. Like, I don't know what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the whole family has to get in therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope they do. I hope they move. But

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks because it's like that guy, like he could

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<v Speaker 1>get a few years in Joe, but he'll get out

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<v Speaker 1>of eventual and he'll come back for all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm just like

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<v Speaker 1>pessimistic about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like your son's eye as fucked, your other silent

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<v Speaker 2>killed his best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like and you're not like maybe things have gone

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<v Speaker 1>too far. You're like, we gotta just don't work. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go to college and play hockey. Yeah I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>that part. Yeah whatever, So plans don't work. It's so crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>plans don't work.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fine. Whoever wrote that? That's like so good, that's

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<v Speaker 3>so like.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, it's like you literally could have just told him

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<v Speaker 1>to punch him a couple of times, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like you told him to do something

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<v Speaker 1>so horrible, like the punching is not acceptable, but like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone would have lived, everybody, you know, like jailed, like

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<v Speaker 1>you would have gotten a probation. Like he's like, do

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<v Speaker 1>something so awful, Like I don't know, it's so okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. I'm yea do like mafia do? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>the mafia like? Do it like a horrible like moment,

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<v Speaker 1>it's shut like we all want to be champions, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, champions lose all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what makes them champions.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like and they lose gracefully, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>these that's why these dads don't make it like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't get the full humanity of it all. And obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>like Kobe was crazy and hit the ball, like and

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan were insane in their own ways, but like they

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<v Speaker 1>lost a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, Well, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the episode, it's Rawlins and Benson showing off

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<v Speaker 1>their outerwear to be a hockey rink.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Michael Jordan didn't make his like high school team

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. There's that story, like Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even a first round draft pick, Like he was

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<v Speaker 2>like far down the line. He was like some backup

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback like most people that not like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that succeed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Tenacity and like working through stuff, not flipping out and

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<v Speaker 2>raping a child with a stick, Like what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why you're not a champion, Like what the fun?

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<v Speaker 1>That is exactly why he's not a champion. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't go pro because of the way this man is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like nothing's worse than a sore loser. You don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I like having like a little fun, like

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<v Speaker 1>some Reggie Miller fun, but like I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the episode ends with Rollins and Benson and

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<v Speaker 1>their beautiful outer ice rink because.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that hockey has infiltrated my what's it called algorithm? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting a lot of more hockey content. It's they

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly what I want, but they'll throw in some

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<v Speaker 2>hockey now and then. Now, like it is crazy violent,

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<v Speaker 2>like they truly just take off and in the books,

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<v Speaker 2>like like there's some people that are they're on the

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<v Speaker 2>team to fight, like they're enforcers and like protecting the like.

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<v Speaker 1>Shooter that I remember that from when I used to

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<v Speaker 1>play NHL on Nintendo, Like you had a moment where

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<v Speaker 1>you could throw off your.

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<v Speaker 3>Gloves and fight, but like like you can still do

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<v Speaker 3>that in.

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey, yes, Like like I just get clips of like

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<v Speaker 1>and that, Like the clip I got was like never

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<v Speaker 1>fuck with a goalie and it's like someone fucking with

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<v Speaker 1>the goalie and then the whole team will beat the

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<v Speaker 1>shit out of you and it's like everyone's just throwing things,

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<v Speaker 1>penalty boxes are filled. Like it's just kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>insane But I don't think I realized sport. I don't either,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think about hockey ever in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I feel like we've had this conversation I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>like where I was like, are we still allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>fight during hockey but.

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<v Speaker 3>The girls don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>the girls play without doing that. And then one of

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<v Speaker 2>them made a joke of like, well, we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>goodental insurance, so the boys have more money than us.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I'm sure it's they're just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys just really are beating the shit out of

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<v Speaker 2>each other and it's encouraged, like they're fighting the like

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<v Speaker 2>the refs are on skates kind of fighting too.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like the I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's but like when I think about our so we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have our own high school hockey team that like

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<v Speaker 2>the two high schools combined, but it was all the

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<v Speaker 2>skater guys. It was like the hot kind of alternative

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<v Speaker 2>guys or were the people I remember being on hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh not not where I grew up. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>the rich, preppy guys were the hockey players. Okay, yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Then because of the books, and it's also like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them are like I guess with all sports baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>like some of them just don't speak the language, Like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them are speaking different languages. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like sometimes they're just coming from somewhere and that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like there's other sports that are violent, like football,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, but you're never like, oh, you two

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<v Speaker 1>just take a second and just beat the shit out

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<v Speaker 1>of each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically the episode ends, it's fastening Rollins in their

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful outerwear at an ice rink and Benson's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>a few years in juvie is better than ten years

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<v Speaker 1>in prison, but she's not happy about it, and Rollins

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<v Speaker 1>is like, yeah, but we got that dad out of

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<v Speaker 1>the house, like that's what's important. And then Benson goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen years too late. So and that's how it ends.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dick Wolf Baby. It's like, at least you guys

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<v Speaker 1>saved Mark, and hopefully you can save Adam and Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>from through therapy, a lifetime of shame and trauma.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, but I hope that those guys are okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And then.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that. That's great expectations. Why did they call it that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I think, well, I think it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>expectations of you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've already like what like I don't but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's not about hockey, being good at hockey, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But is it about like something like a fuck story.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel it's like Haron ethan Hawk near a Fountain

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<v Speaker 2>is what I remember about Great Expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>It says it's a coming of age novel that follows

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<v Speaker 1>an orphan Pip from his humble beginnings to his rise

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<v Speaker 1>as a gentleman and an orphan Pip.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh, his name is Pip? Pip? What's a Pip? That's

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<v Speaker 3>his name? Is his name is Pip? Yeah? Okay, Pip

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<v Speaker 3>like pippin.

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<v Speaker 1>No and and eventually his moral awakening, exploring themes of

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<v Speaker 1>social class, love, ambition, and identity in Victorian England. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's because he had these great expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote unquote of like wealth, and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The dad has these great expectations for his kids, but

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<v Speaker 1>and the mom had these great expectations for starting a

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<v Speaker 1>family with this man, and it's like turned into a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking nightmare. So I don't know, sad, Yeah, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's all because this guy like didn't get where he

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<v Speaker 1>thought he deserved to go, like in his hockey career, probably,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Like that's like where

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<v Speaker 1>it comes from. But let's get to the crime. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me the horrific thing that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So this is obviously about parent violence and

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<v Speaker 2>youth sports. One man beat another like one father beat

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<v Speaker 2>another father to death after a practice game, a practice game.

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<v Speaker 3>This was like practice.

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<v Speaker 2>What this was at a Burbank skating arena in Reading, Massachusetts. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So Michael Costin, he is the victim. He's one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty six pounds, he's a carpenter, and on June fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand, he was beaten to death after the parents

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<v Speaker 2>argued about a rough play in this hockey practice. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the murderer is Thomas Junta, and Thomas was forty four

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<v Speaker 2>years old, two hundred and seventy pounds, so that's like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of weight on someone for a fight.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was a truck driver.

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<v Speaker 2>And his lawyer, Thomas or Landy Junior, said, Junta's not

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<v Speaker 2>the person he has been made out to be. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>is a loving father and husband, and that's by the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times. But he did beat a man to death,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's something to remember. So the fight

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<v Speaker 2>began when Junta believed that Costin was encouraging a team

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<v Speaker 2>with his three sons on it to play two aggressively hitting, checking,

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<v Speaker 2>and slashing the players on the other team, where Junta's

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<v Speaker 2>son Quinlan was playing. So I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a scrimmage game or all the teams in

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<v Speaker 2>the league practice together like what was going on. But

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<v Speaker 2>in multiple articles it said like this wasn't even a game.

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<v Speaker 2>So the two men said.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's like there's no stakes, it's just a practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The two men argued on the ice and Junta was

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<v Speaker 2>asked to leave, and he left for one minute, then

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<v Speaker 2>came back, claiming he was worried his son was still

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<v Speaker 2>in there, but the assistant rink manager, Nancy Blanchard, said

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<v Speaker 2>he looked and aged and shoved her aside hard enough

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<v Speaker 2>that it bruised her arm. So he left a pissed,

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<v Speaker 2>came back pissed. Then so he went inside started and

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<v Speaker 2>then they started shoving each other, and then Junta ended

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<v Speaker 2>up sitting on Costin's chest and that's where all these

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<v Speaker 2>fatal blows were delivered. And this is according to two

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<v Speaker 2>witnesses to the New York Times, and that these witnesses

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<v Speaker 2>said that they were shouting for him to stop and

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<v Speaker 2>then Couston was found laying on the floor outside the

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<v Speaker 2>rink in this like nor like Redding in north of Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>So they went from inside to outside. The fight continued

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<v Speaker 2>and he was found outside. He died when an artery

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<v Speaker 2>at the base of his brain was severed by a

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<v Speaker 2>powerful force. It says he sustained injuries in fifteen places.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a lot of conflicting witness statements. So Junta's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I only hit him three times, but all these other

1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:53.599
<v Speaker 2>people were like, oh no, actually you hit him ten,

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<v Speaker 2>like more than ten times. And then his twelve year

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<v Speaker 2>old son testified that his dad was trying to protect

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<v Speaker 2>himself and only hit him three quick times. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>to CNN, and it's like it could be a corsion

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<v Speaker 2>or like, you know, or the kid only saw off you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just a lot of witnesses, and they always say

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<v Speaker 2>witness testimony is an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because if you're sitting on somebody's chest, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like you've won, Like you don't need to do any

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<v Speaker 1>you're protected, you're sitting on the person, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a really good point. And then the judge

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<v Speaker 2>ordered for all the miners not to be identified. That testified,

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<v Speaker 2>which I appreciate. And there was like a dozen children watching,

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<v Speaker 2>including these two sons. So one of the sons truly

1:10:35.520 --> 1:10:39.800
<v Speaker 2>watched his dad get beat to death. And then one

1:10:39.840 --> 1:10:42.960
<v Speaker 2>of the witnesses is quoted to CNN saying he went

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<v Speaker 2>on and on, and I kept hollering and saying stop,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was thinking the whole time, he's either going

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<v Speaker 2>to kill the man or he's going to have brain damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Them testified in court that Costin was beaten so severely

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<v Speaker 2>that he suffered deep hemorrhages on the left side of

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<v Speaker 2>his neck and with the torn artery in the brain

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<v Speaker 2>and like he kind of had a four of a

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<v Speaker 2>stroke from these injuries. And Junta said he was acting

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<v Speaker 2>in self defense after Costin swung at him, and the

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<v Speaker 2>judge told the jury that self defense was illegally acceptable

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<v Speaker 2>defense as long as the force was proportionate to the threat. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Costin actually has like a really long criminal record, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was not made to the jury because he's like

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<v Speaker 2>that's trying to make the victims seem like something else.

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<v Speaker 2>It probably would have helped paint a picture for the

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<v Speaker 2>Junta team, but that Costin was an aggressor or something,

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<v Speaker 2>but the judge did not allow that.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually both have insane criminal records.

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<v Speaker 2>So Costin had been sentenced to jail ten times for

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<v Speaker 2>terms of fifteen months for or like for assault, battery,

1:11:44.040 --> 1:11:47.880
<v Speaker 2>breaking and entering, assaulting a police officer, violating a restraining

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<v Speaker 2>order taken out by his wife Linda, and then his

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<v Speaker 2>father Gus is quoted in the Time saying how his

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<v Speaker 2>son had a troubled past but was in a good

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<v Speaker 2>mood before his death because he had just one custody

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<v Speaker 2>of his sons and daughter, which seemed insane. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the mom up to? Or is like parents

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<v Speaker 2>syndrome alia? And like how did this guy with all

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<v Speaker 2>these arrests? But it's kind of like when Tom ran

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<v Speaker 2>sand what's the guy from Ravenaugh. It's like when from

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<v Speaker 2>Southern Charm, Like for Catherine not to have the kid,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like they're both bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what has yet up to? So I just think

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy he got custody of his kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that does seem crazy moms or mentally unfit or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's they've issued restraining orders against him. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but this is just a quote from

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<v Speaker 2>the dad so like I don't know, yeah, yeah. Junta

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<v Speaker 2>also is arrested on charges of a sultan battery and

1:12:41.479 --> 1:12:44.080
<v Speaker 2>breaking and entering, but wasn't convicted in the past. And

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<v Speaker 2>he also had a restraining order in nineteen ninety one

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<v Speaker 2>because he beat her in front of the two children

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<v Speaker 2>and another child. So he like beat his wife at

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<v Speaker 2>a wedding in front of his kids.

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<v Speaker 6>Jesus Christ, this is toskic toxic masculinity, like I know

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<v Speaker 6>for one versus one, like they're basically oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So he was found guilty. This is actually

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<v Speaker 2>really confusing. So he was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter

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<v Speaker 2>in January two thousand and two, which only had a

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<v Speaker 2>possible sentence, one source said, for three to five years.

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<v Speaker 2>And then but okay, so a half hour before the

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<v Speaker 2>jury delivered a verdict, the jury asked the judge to

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<v Speaker 2>clarify between voluntary and involuntary manslaughter. And then the jury

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<v Speaker 2>was nine women, three men, and if they found him

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<v Speaker 2>guilty of voluntary manslaughter, he would have been looking at

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<v Speaker 2>eight to twelve years. And it actually took the judge

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<v Speaker 2>asking for the verdict three times for the jury Foreman

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<v Speaker 2>to finally speak and say guilty. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what was really going on, but a bunch of them

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go voluntary but were talked out of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually, like a lot of the jurors who talked

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<v Speaker 2>were not happy and said, this guy went too far

1:13:51.160 --> 1:13:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and he had lots of chances to stop or call

1:13:53.080 --> 1:13:56.639
<v Speaker 2>the police or do anything. And now NBC Sports reported

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<v Speaker 2>that he served eight years, and that like the local

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<v Speaker 2>WFMY News too said he was sentenced to six to

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<v Speaker 2>ten years, So it's like, I thought he got involuntary

1:14:06.760 --> 1:14:09.920
<v Speaker 2>which is three to five, but he actually got eight.

1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:12.600
<v Speaker 2>And then CBS News reported you could get up to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years maximum for an involuntary murder charge, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not really sure what's up.

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<v Speaker 3>But he got eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Years, even though one source was like, it's only possible

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<v Speaker 1>to get three to five. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's like states, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also sort of like, like, first degree murder, right,

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<v Speaker 1>is planning intent to kill?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? I thought second degree murder was like murder in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Heat of passion, but that sounds like it's also what

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<v Speaker 1>voluntary manslaughter is.

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<v Speaker 2>No, maybe voluntary is like drunk driving. Yeah, well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>what's drunk driving?

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<v Speaker 3>You think?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean voluntary it said, it's killing of a human

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<v Speaker 1>in which the offender acted in the heat of passion,

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<v Speaker 1>a state that would cause a reasonable person to become

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally or mentally disturbed to the point where they cannot

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<v Speaker 1>control their emotions. It's one of two types of manslaughter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just don't really understand the difference between. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we have so many lawyers that listen, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because isn't there also there's also a third degree murder,

1:15:09.400 --> 1:15:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Like there's all there's different degrees of murder. So when

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<v Speaker 1>does it go from manslaughter? Key differences between murder and

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<v Speaker 1>voluntary manslaughter. I mean it probably varies by state as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's intent murder. There's an intent to kill. Manslaughter,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not an intent to kill.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So second degree murder would be like I was

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<v Speaker 1>in a rage, I went crazy, I couldn't see anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I kept going until they were dead, whereas event

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<v Speaker 1>manslaughter is like I was just trying to hurt them

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<v Speaker 1>and I killed them by accident. Yeah, yeah, okay, got it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>seems important. Episode two d and seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy served eight years, and the judge went along

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<v Speaker 2>with the recommended sentence from prosecution but believed it was

1:15:55.680 --> 1:16:00.920
<v Speaker 2>too lenya and generous, and he was denied parl twice.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that, damn. And I hope no one speaks

1:16:04.240 --> 1:16:08.360
<v Speaker 3>to him. I think he died great, Sorry, I didn't

1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:10.559
<v Speaker 3>know that. That's pretty unprofessional with me. No, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I only know because I really quickly looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the thing and I saw his death date when

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<v Speaker 1>I was first looking up the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he died cancer. But damn, well, the end

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<v Speaker 3>to that story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the fs it's like, get a couple like,

1:16:30.000 --> 1:16:31.760
<v Speaker 2>knock him out, but then you gotta leave. Don't knock

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<v Speaker 2>I get, like, don't be violent ever, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you severed a brain artery fifteen points.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what are you talking about? You're more giant than him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so.

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<v Speaker 1>I just hate violence like that of any kind really,

1:16:45.160 --> 1:16:48.839
<v Speaker 1>unless like you're truly defending someone from like being attacked.

1:16:48.920 --> 1:16:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I really just fights, like at concerts or anytime I

1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:55.000
<v Speaker 1>see a fight, I'm always like, oh I hate this,

1:16:56.560 --> 1:17:00.920
<v Speaker 1>so all right, I like too, But I would go

1:17:00.960 --> 1:17:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to a couple of public executions if I could, I

1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:06.080
<v Speaker 1>would say on the heels of public executions. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty cute little guest coming up, so don't go anywhere.

1:17:08.840 --> 1:17:10.800
<v Speaker 3>We got a little we got a little cutie. Why

1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:12.520
<v Speaker 3>are you connecting them?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, we're going straight from people beating each

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<v Speaker 1>other to death and hanging billionaires in the streets to

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<v Speaker 1>a little sweetheart. Our guest today is a young actor

1:17:30.160 --> 1:17:32.719
<v Speaker 1>who has been featured on such shows as Nicky Ricky,

1:17:32.760 --> 1:17:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Dicky and Dawn Bunked and Elena of Avalor. But you

1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:39.120
<v Speaker 1>know him best today as the star hockey player with

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<v Speaker 1>a messed up family, Kyle Turner.

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<v Speaker 3>Please enjoy our chat with the lovely Lincoln Melcher.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, it's so crazy to see you like

1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:51.519
<v Speaker 1>grown up. I know this sounds crazy, but it's like

1:17:51.560 --> 1:17:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I just watched your little episode where you're this little cutie,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're like a full grown person.

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<v Speaker 5>How was a baby?

1:17:57.400 --> 1:17:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? How old were you when you filmed this? Like thirteen?

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<v Speaker 5>Or I believe I was twelve. I think I was.

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<v Speaker 7>I was in seventh grade at the time, and now

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a senior in college, so it's been it's been.

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<v Speaker 5>A long time.

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<v Speaker 7>What are you majoring in I'm a political science major

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<v Speaker 7>in a theater minor.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so are you maybe gonna get are you gonna?

1:18:16.600 --> 1:18:18.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know you're still acting, Like I see

1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:21.080
<v Speaker 1>your credits and stuff, but like, are you is that

1:18:21.200 --> 1:18:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the way you want to go?

1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:25.559
<v Speaker 3>Or in your back pocket?

1:18:25.600 --> 1:18:28.080
<v Speaker 5>Writing in the back pocket? Maybe we'll see.

1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:30.760
<v Speaker 7>But uh yeah, acting, writing up and doing improv with

1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:32.200
<v Speaker 7>my college improv team too.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh cool, I did improv in college. And are you

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<v Speaker 3>you're from California?

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<v Speaker 5>I am, I'm from Burbank.

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<v Speaker 3>So then you booked and flew to New York.

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<v Speaker 5>It was pretty insane. It was a quick turnaround. It

1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:46.679
<v Speaker 5>was I had done. I was shooting actually a Disney

1:18:46.760 --> 1:18:47.880
<v Speaker 5>Channel show at the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh, and I got the email for a self tape,

1:18:52.080 --> 1:18:55.040
<v Speaker 7>and we like scrambled to go get it done, finish

1:18:55.120 --> 1:18:57.439
<v Speaker 7>the self tape, turned it in, and then literally like

1:18:57.479 --> 1:19:00.720
<v Speaker 7>the next day I got the email I'd gotten it,

1:19:00.800 --> 1:19:02.479
<v Speaker 7>and then they had us on a flight the next

1:19:02.520 --> 1:19:04.439
<v Speaker 7>morning at like four o'clock in the morning. So it

1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:08.679
<v Speaker 7>was a pretty quick, like whirlwind turnaround. But super cool.

1:19:08.760 --> 1:19:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Did you take classes? How'd you learn?

1:19:10.520 --> 1:19:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Were you good at memorizing like I don't know what,

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<v Speaker 2>So what were your skills?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 7>I think I think just being like a twelve year old,

1:19:16.960 --> 1:19:18.760
<v Speaker 7>things just kind of like make sense to you a

1:19:18.800 --> 1:19:20.320
<v Speaker 7>little bit more than as an adult. You tend to

1:19:20.320 --> 1:19:24.200
<v Speaker 7>complicate things as you get older a little bit. But yeah, no,

1:19:24.280 --> 1:19:26.519
<v Speaker 7>I just I've been doing it since I was super little.

1:19:27.400 --> 1:19:29.160
<v Speaker 7>I actually went up the way I got into it.

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<v Speaker 7>I was four years old. My mom was doing a

1:19:30.760 --> 1:19:33.559
<v Speaker 7>Tibo class in Citio City and the lady who worked

1:19:33.560 --> 1:19:36.400
<v Speaker 7>at the front happened to be like an acting manager,

1:19:36.520 --> 1:19:37.640
<v Speaker 7>and she was like, Hey, do you want to be

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<v Speaker 7>on television?

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, yeah, of course. So I got

1:19:43.840 --> 1:19:44.200
<v Speaker 5>from there.

1:19:44.240 --> 1:19:46.400
<v Speaker 7>I booked like a Mont's Applesauce commercial right away, like

1:19:46.400 --> 1:19:49.360
<v Speaker 7>my first audition, and then immediately got fired because I

1:19:49.400 --> 1:19:52.160
<v Speaker 7>wasn't I was a four year old, and like, I

1:19:52.200 --> 1:19:54.200
<v Speaker 7>was supposed to walk through this house like with my

1:19:54.280 --> 1:19:56.479
<v Speaker 7>backpack first day of school, and I just insisted upon

1:19:56.520 --> 1:19:58.080
<v Speaker 7>like swinging it over my head.

1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:00.400
<v Speaker 1>You were trying to play in real, Try to play

1:20:00.439 --> 1:20:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the real I have a four year old boy right now,

1:20:02.720 --> 1:20:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's the reality of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he got fired because you wouldn't stop spinning your immediately.

1:20:10.400 --> 1:20:12.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, there was a stand in named Shane.

1:20:12.840 --> 1:20:15.360
<v Speaker 7>And I still remember that because every time, I don't know,

1:20:15.400 --> 1:20:17.679
<v Speaker 7>every time I feel like I'm not I'm not there,

1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:19.280
<v Speaker 7>I'm my God, I better I better lock in because

1:20:19.280 --> 1:20:20.160
<v Speaker 7>they got Shane in the back.

1:20:20.280 --> 1:20:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a Shane ready to take your place a moment.

1:20:23.080 --> 1:20:23.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly.

1:20:23.920 --> 1:20:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Love this tybo front desk slash talent Matter.

1:20:27.200 --> 1:20:28.320
<v Speaker 5>Right, it's so Hollywood.

1:20:28.360 --> 1:20:31.960
<v Speaker 7>It's just like it's the epitome of a Hollywood Hollywood

1:20:32.000 --> 1:20:32.599
<v Speaker 7>origin story.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I wanted to ask, like, you know, what was

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<v Speaker 1>did you know anything about SVU at twelve years old,

1:20:40.680 --> 1:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Like did you know the subject matter?

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<v Speaker 3>And like was it scary?

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<v Speaker 1>But like you were in a Ouiji Origin of Evil

1:20:45.560 --> 1:20:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the year before, so I guess SVU was probably like

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<v Speaker 1>a step down from that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's true, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I mean this subject especially switching from like

1:20:54.880 --> 1:20:59.320
<v Speaker 7>Disney Channel to yeah, it's sort of a whiplash there, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>to to some serious SPU stuff. Yeah, for sure, I

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<v Speaker 7>mean it was it was definitely more serious. But I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like I don't know, I was kind of my

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<v Speaker 7>family has always been sort of like I don't know,

1:21:12.040 --> 1:21:14.000
<v Speaker 7>I was allowed to watch right onar movies way too young,

1:21:14.160 --> 1:21:17.000
<v Speaker 7>Like it wasn't it wasn't anything I hadn't seen before,

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<v Speaker 7>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, any scoop, any moments with any of the

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<v Speaker 2>detectives or you know, some give it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I remember kind of a funny when I think

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<v Speaker 7>we shot in like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if you guys remember the Juju on

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<v Speaker 7>that Beat challenge, the dance the Juju.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 5>Not like gen zing myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now on the beat.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's Juju on that beat. It's like, I don't know.

1:21:48.040 --> 1:21:50.200
<v Speaker 5>It was like a silly dance challenge from the twenty

1:21:50.240 --> 1:21:51.080
<v Speaker 5>tens amongst.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure a lot of our listeners will know it.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope.

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<v Speaker 7>So, I hope I'm connected with Sella here, Marishka's son.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess they call him Juju. So I was doing

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<v Speaker 7>this Juju on that beat dance, just like, what is that?

1:22:04.520 --> 1:22:06.799
<v Speaker 7>What you have to teach me this dance? So I'm

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<v Speaker 7>if you ever see Mariska Harketed doing the Juju on

1:22:09.560 --> 1:22:12.080
<v Speaker 7>that beat dance, just now that I'm the one that's odder.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Wow, you guys did good rock dances together, I have.

1:22:17.400 --> 1:22:19.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's there's a legacy there for sure.

1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you were and we call it cement room bars.

1:22:24.800 --> 1:22:26.800
<v Speaker 2>How is it being in all the sets?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it was realistic, I really well.

1:22:29.600 --> 1:22:34.080
<v Speaker 7>Actually, the craziest one we filmed some of those hospital

1:22:34.120 --> 1:22:38.080
<v Speaker 7>scenes in like an abandoned hospital somewhere. I'm like, and

1:22:38.120 --> 1:22:42.799
<v Speaker 7>it was freaky, Like the vibe was definitely definitely spooky.

1:22:44.200 --> 1:22:46.799
<v Speaker 7>B So that was yeah, that was That was probably

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<v Speaker 7>the strangest place that we filmed. But even like all

1:22:49.439 --> 1:22:52.000
<v Speaker 7>the like the prison sets and stuff, they feel real

1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:54.000
<v Speaker 7>to I've been watching one TV. You think they're real

1:22:54.080 --> 1:22:56.200
<v Speaker 7>until you walk in and there's like a, I don't know,

1:22:56.360 --> 1:22:58.919
<v Speaker 7>just a huge screen behind the windows.

1:22:59.280 --> 1:23:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I know, they really make beautiful windows scapes on sunsets

1:23:07.120 --> 1:23:10.720
<v Speaker 2>are gorgeous and really kind of nail it. Would you

1:23:10.720 --> 1:23:13.080
<v Speaker 2>ever live in New York? Are you LA forever?

1:23:13.760 --> 1:23:15.640
<v Speaker 5>I think so? I mean I definitely I have some

1:23:15.840 --> 1:23:16.960
<v Speaker 5>LA loyalty for sure.

1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:20.160
<v Speaker 7>But I was in New York this summer and I

1:23:20.200 --> 1:23:22.479
<v Speaker 7>was kind of scoping it out, and I think I

1:23:22.520 --> 1:23:24.840
<v Speaker 7>think I could see myself see myself over here at

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<v Speaker 7>some point, maybe not now, but.

1:23:28.880 --> 1:23:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Like, where would you do? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why theater versus acting or film or something like that,

1:23:34.240 --> 1:23:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Like why do you want to do the stage?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm I'm totally into into all of it. I'm actually

1:23:39.800 --> 1:23:42.200
<v Speaker 7>right now I'm doing I'm I'm at Playhouse West doing

1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.000
<v Speaker 7>like a Meisner program. So that's that's a lot. I've

1:23:45.000 --> 1:23:47.920
<v Speaker 7>been getting a lot on stage, a lot that's been

1:23:47.920 --> 1:23:49.360
<v Speaker 7>really good. I mean, I feel like that's that's for sure.

1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:52.080
<v Speaker 7>The best way to practice is just getting up on stage.

1:23:52.120 --> 1:23:54.479
<v Speaker 7>Like the scariest form of acting I feel. I mean,

1:23:54.479 --> 1:23:56.600
<v Speaker 7>on a set, you get like a million tries and

1:23:56.640 --> 1:23:58.000
<v Speaker 7>then you get to the stage.

1:23:58.000 --> 1:24:00.200
<v Speaker 5>It's like, all right, don't don't mess this up. Get

1:24:00.200 --> 1:24:00.679
<v Speaker 5>one shot.

1:24:02.160 --> 1:24:04.120
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I'd love to do I'd definitely love to

1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:05.519
<v Speaker 7>do more theater in the future for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, when you did this this uh episode, did

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<v Speaker 1>you know how to skate or play hok like play

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<v Speaker 1>hockey or anything or did they ask me I did that?

1:24:16.400 --> 1:24:18.760
<v Speaker 7>No, they put me in like these moon boot kind

1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:21.719
<v Speaker 7>of things that I guess like have traction on the ice.

1:24:23.439 --> 1:24:25.200
<v Speaker 7>Even though I was I was I wanted to skate,

1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:26.840
<v Speaker 7>I kept talking. I wanted to I mean, I would

1:24:26.880 --> 1:24:28.559
<v Speaker 7>have fallen on my ass, but I really to get

1:24:28.560 --> 1:24:31.639
<v Speaker 7>out there. It looked like fun. But yeah, those were cool.

1:24:31.680 --> 1:24:32.719
<v Speaker 7>I've never seen those before.

1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:34.160
<v Speaker 3>You were moon boots.

1:24:34.400 --> 1:24:36.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they were moon boot esque. I don't know, I

1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:37.880
<v Speaker 5>don't know what the techn so that.

1:24:37.880 --> 1:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>You could be on the ice in them without like

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<v Speaker 1>actually skating.

1:24:41.840 --> 1:24:44.240
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so a few of those shots, it's it's actually yeah, yeah,

1:24:44.240 --> 1:24:46.760
<v Speaker 7>I was on the ice, but not not actually wearing skates.

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<v Speaker 3>Was the gear heavy?

1:24:50.520 --> 1:24:52.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it was. It was like hockey gear.

1:24:52.120 --> 1:24:52.920
<v Speaker 5>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>I would just hate to have to carry that around.

1:24:57.800 --> 1:24:58.080
<v Speaker 5>I know.

1:24:58.160 --> 1:25:01.240
<v Speaker 7>And I'm a sweater too, I mean, I'm yeah, it's

1:25:01.280 --> 1:25:02.200
<v Speaker 7>a lot. It's a burden.

1:25:03.640 --> 1:25:04.559
<v Speaker 3>Are you are?

1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Have you cotton heated rival fever? Heated rivalry fever?

1:25:09.520 --> 1:25:11.840
<v Speaker 5>I have not yet, but I feel like I've got

1:25:11.840 --> 1:25:12.360
<v Speaker 5>to tap in.

1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:15.200
<v Speaker 5>Everyone's been saying.

1:25:15.240 --> 1:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I was wondering if like your age was

1:25:19.360 --> 1:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>into it.

1:25:20.600 --> 1:25:23.280
<v Speaker 3>My niece is twenty one, she's about to be twenty one.

1:25:23.400 --> 1:25:24.760
<v Speaker 3>She likes it. Oh yeah, that's right.

1:25:24.800 --> 1:25:26.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean a ton about it.

1:25:26.280 --> 1:25:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're kind of we picked the hockey episode because

1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:30.040
<v Speaker 2>of it.

1:25:30.360 --> 1:25:31.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, good figure.

1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:32.759
<v Speaker 3>It's like timely.

1:25:32.920 --> 1:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, unfortunately, the show Heated Rivalry is like all

1:25:37.439 --> 1:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>about consent, and this show is a little bit different,

1:25:41.000 --> 1:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little bit different.

1:25:44.240 --> 1:25:46.479
<v Speaker 3>And it just always sucks when it's a parent too.

1:25:46.760 --> 1:25:46.960
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1:25:47.520 --> 1:25:49.439
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I know I was watching last night. Was I

1:25:49.479 --> 1:25:50.719
<v Speaker 7>was like heartbroken for myself.

1:25:51.560 --> 1:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wait, how did it feel? What were your thoughts

1:25:54.080 --> 1:25:55.479
<v Speaker 1>watching it? No?

1:25:56.080 --> 1:25:56.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean it's tough.

1:25:56.840 --> 1:25:58.920
<v Speaker 7>I feel like it's tough to watch anything that you're in.

1:25:58.960 --> 1:26:01.880
<v Speaker 7>But honestly, like being ten years removed from it and

1:26:01.960 --> 1:26:04.160
<v Speaker 7>like kind of just watching it as like this is

1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:07.000
<v Speaker 7>like a little twelve year old kid. I was impressed.

1:26:07.040 --> 1:26:09.360
<v Speaker 7>I thought I was give myself a pat on the back.

1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twelve years old and you're flying cross country to

1:26:12.560 --> 1:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>like live in New York for a week or two

1:26:14.439 --> 1:26:17.479
<v Speaker 1>and be like in this television.

1:26:16.960 --> 1:26:18.879
<v Speaker 5>Show inherently kind of terrified.

1:26:19.040 --> 1:26:22.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's like a lot. Wow.

1:26:22.400 --> 1:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So yeah, you had like so many you had

1:26:25.439 --> 1:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of face time with Peter Scanavino, if you

1:26:28.800 --> 1:26:31.639
<v Speaker 1>remember that, like he's you know, he's still with the show.

1:26:32.400 --> 1:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>He was you know, I think they were trying to

1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>draw a little a little uh, get a little bit

1:26:37.439 --> 1:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of his history out through your storyline, and that was

1:26:39.680 --> 1:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of fun.

1:26:41.160 --> 1:26:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Did your parents watch it? Like, did you all watch

1:26:43.160 --> 1:26:43.639
<v Speaker 3>it together?

1:26:44.439 --> 1:26:45.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? When it came out, Yeah, we did, like a

1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:46.960
<v Speaker 5>little living room party.

1:26:47.080 --> 1:26:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's such a weird thing to watch as like

1:26:49.840 --> 1:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>a party setting, but it makes sense.

1:26:52.400 --> 1:26:53.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah it's not real.

1:26:54.080 --> 1:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like it's a very like some episodes of

1:26:57.720 --> 1:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Rest of You actually have like some humor in them

1:26:59.680 --> 1:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in our life pretty and could be campy.

1:27:01.760 --> 1:27:03.360
<v Speaker 3>This one is not one of those.

1:27:03.720 --> 1:27:05.679
<v Speaker 5>I didn't remember that the end was so bleak.

1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:07.720
<v Speaker 7>I figured that it had like some sort of like,

1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:09.639
<v Speaker 7>oh no, there's gonna be some sort of up ticket

1:27:09.720 --> 1:27:09.960
<v Speaker 7>the end.

1:27:10.479 --> 1:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>The end is like Dad is dad and he's going

1:27:13.000 --> 1:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>to jail. The end is really freaking bleak. Did you

1:27:18.240 --> 1:27:20.360
<v Speaker 1>get along with the other like kids on the set?

1:27:20.400 --> 1:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>There were like a bunch of boys right in the episode.

1:27:22.320 --> 1:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Were you guys like, yeah, what's up? Let's drink full?

1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>So like full caffeine, SODA's and parties.

1:27:28.560 --> 1:27:29.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure, I'm sure we're horrible.

1:27:32.160 --> 1:27:34.760
<v Speaker 7>I feel like we didn't spend too much time with

1:27:34.880 --> 1:27:37.960
<v Speaker 7>the whole hockey team, but yeah, I mean, honestly, all

1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:40.599
<v Speaker 7>I remember from that set is just that everyone everyone

1:27:40.640 --> 1:27:42.760
<v Speaker 7>got along super well. I remember I spent a lot

1:27:42.760 --> 1:27:46.519
<v Speaker 7>of time with Christopher, like col who played Jack, and

1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:48.680
<v Speaker 7>he was super sweet.

1:27:49.360 --> 1:27:50.600
<v Speaker 5>I felt horrible.

1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:52.400
<v Speaker 3>From what I've done to and then he died.

1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:54.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah that was and then he died. Yeah, and then

1:27:54.960 --> 1:27:56.519
<v Speaker 7>no more friend on set exactly.

1:27:56.880 --> 1:27:59.360
<v Speaker 3>But what are your go to snacks on set?

1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:03.479
<v Speaker 7>Oh my gosh. I mean that's the biggest part of

1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:09.759
<v Speaker 7>it for me is the crafty table. I'm I'm chocolate reverse.

1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:12.000
<v Speaker 7>Now I get migraines when I when I eat chocolate,

1:28:12.080 --> 1:28:15.360
<v Speaker 7>so I can't dip into the chocolate. Eminem's used to

1:28:15.400 --> 1:28:17.439
<v Speaker 7>be my go to but now I think kind of

1:28:17.439 --> 1:28:18.200
<v Speaker 7>a banana guy.

1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:20.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, is that like a banana guy?

1:28:20.880 --> 1:28:23.680
<v Speaker 7>Okay, I'm always there for whenever they have like an

1:28:23.720 --> 1:28:25.200
<v Speaker 7>omelet bar, I'm there.

1:28:25.800 --> 1:28:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's good.

1:28:27.439 --> 1:28:29.439
<v Speaker 5>Those are my go to.

1:28:29.120 --> 1:28:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Omelet You really can't beat it. Your sister is like

1:28:32.240 --> 1:28:33.960
<v Speaker 3>a big influencer on the internet.

1:28:34.120 --> 1:28:36.639
<v Speaker 1>She is because I was just googling you in preparation

1:28:36.760 --> 1:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>for today and I saw your sister and I was like, wait,

1:28:39.040 --> 1:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I've seen this girls videos before.

1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:43.600
<v Speaker 7>Like I'm sure, I'm I think everyone has. She is

1:28:44.479 --> 1:28:47.559
<v Speaker 7>the queen of of of TikTok rage bait she's a

1:28:47.600 --> 1:28:48.599
<v Speaker 7>self proclaimed troll.

1:28:49.200 --> 1:28:49.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

1:28:49.880 --> 1:28:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like Louisa, right, Louisa Melcher.

1:28:52.120 --> 1:28:53.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, Louisa.

1:28:53.560 --> 1:28:56.920
<v Speaker 7>Yes, she actually well, she originally was not really like

1:28:57.080 --> 1:29:00.400
<v Speaker 7>interested in acting or any of like the performance side

1:29:00.400 --> 1:29:03.600
<v Speaker 7>of things. And then she got to college and she

1:29:03.720 --> 1:29:06.760
<v Speaker 7>was an art history major and then she switched to

1:29:06.840 --> 1:29:08.639
<v Speaker 7>theater her senior year and I was like, okay, so

1:29:09.360 --> 1:29:13.040
<v Speaker 7>you're blatantly copying me, you're ripping my thing. But all right,

1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:20.560
<v Speaker 7>and yeah, then this this crazy social media troll situation

1:29:20.760 --> 1:29:24.720
<v Speaker 7>just bloomed and she's now like she's she's she's the

1:29:24.720 --> 1:29:26.000
<v Speaker 7>real performative family right now.

1:29:26.040 --> 1:29:27.679
<v Speaker 5>I mean, she's she's taking the cake.

1:29:27.800 --> 1:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>So she just started making like because I've seen some

1:29:30.120 --> 1:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of the videos, but I don't did she oh did

1:29:33.080 --> 1:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>she do one where she pretended like that her fiance

1:29:36.400 --> 1:29:39.599
<v Speaker 1>proposed to her at a marathon or something like that.

1:29:39.840 --> 1:29:42.120
<v Speaker 5>And she sure, I mean I can't even it.

1:29:42.160 --> 1:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Was just to make people mad at the fiance. Okay, wait,

1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>well she has one.

1:29:45.240 --> 1:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Now my fiance is currently in police custody for the

1:29:48.160 --> 1:29:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Louver heist.

1:29:50.360 --> 1:29:53.240
<v Speaker 5>There we go. Yeah, that's a pretty good example.

1:29:53.400 --> 1:29:56.800
<v Speaker 7>She had one that she actually had she uh, she

1:29:57.240 --> 1:29:59.599
<v Speaker 7>had my mom and I be a part of where where.

1:30:00.400 --> 1:30:04.000
<v Speaker 5>She said that my mom had had like a situationship

1:30:04.000 --> 1:30:07.320
<v Speaker 5>with the pope. In that that got like twenty million views.

1:30:07.320 --> 1:30:10.280
<v Speaker 7>People were convinced that the friends of mine were coming

1:30:10.320 --> 1:30:12.719
<v Speaker 7>with me at school and being like, is that that's crazy?

1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:15.120
<v Speaker 5>Like the Pope is your dad? I'm like, no, no.

1:30:14.840 --> 1:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Wait, I'm kind of upsessed. She has this post that's like, guys,

1:30:18.040 --> 1:30:20.479
<v Speaker 1>I just got raptured. I literally just got raptured. I'm

1:30:20.479 --> 1:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>freaking out there letting me keep my phone. Oh my god,

1:30:25.920 --> 1:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>so funny. So wait, that's crazy. Okay, So is it

1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>just you too? Do you have other sibs?

1:30:31.200 --> 1:30:31.960
<v Speaker 5>It's just us too?

1:30:32.200 --> 1:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Wow, And you're both like performers and one of you

1:30:34.800 --> 1:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>was discovered at a Tybo studio and the other one

1:30:37.280 --> 1:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>is a rage bait TikToker. I mean truly, this is

1:30:40.439 --> 1:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>this is the future.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the quintessential Hollywood got it all gone?

1:30:44.840 --> 1:30:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Does your mom still do Tybo?

1:30:47.040 --> 1:30:48.640
<v Speaker 5>She does it, she knows she's sweat. She's more of

1:30:48.640 --> 1:30:49.840
<v Speaker 5>a a yogi now.

1:30:49.920 --> 1:30:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but.

1:30:51.680 --> 1:30:52.439
<v Speaker 5>In the future, I just.

1:30:52.400 --> 1:30:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Want to let her know that it's on YouTube and

1:30:55.160 --> 1:30:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm a Tibo person. We're still you're still out there.

1:30:57.400 --> 1:30:58.080
<v Speaker 5>If she wants to.

1:30:58.000 --> 1:30:59.920
<v Speaker 7>Know some of those old Billy Blanks videos, she might

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<v Speaker 7>be in there. You might be working out with my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, wait are your parents show biz parents?

1:31:08.320 --> 1:31:10.800
<v Speaker 5>My dad works in game shows.

1:31:10.920 --> 1:31:14.200
<v Speaker 7>He's a he's a writer. So right now he's working

1:31:14.200 --> 1:31:16.120
<v Speaker 7>on the on the floor with Rob Love.

1:31:16.280 --> 1:31:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, he head on over to Ireland to film he does.

1:31:20.800 --> 1:31:23.400
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, exactly, I.

1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:26.280
<v Speaker 3>Had like two friends be on that show. I should

1:31:26.320 --> 1:31:27.040
<v Speaker 3>be on the floor.

1:31:27.360 --> 1:31:28.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I'll.

1:31:28.800 --> 1:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>See what is it the one where you go back

1:31:32.240 --> 1:31:34.439
<v Speaker 1>and forth about like pasta shapes or something?

1:31:34.520 --> 1:31:35.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the cake.

1:31:37.200 --> 1:31:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I could do a good job.

1:31:40.640 --> 1:31:42.639
<v Speaker 5>I think I would freeze and do a horrible job.

1:31:42.680 --> 1:31:44.639
<v Speaker 3>But that's true too. I love a game show.

1:31:44.680 --> 1:31:46.479
<v Speaker 2>So what what other game shows did you go to

1:31:46.479 --> 1:31:47.479
<v Speaker 2>sets when you were a kid?

1:31:48.760 --> 1:31:50.400
<v Speaker 5>I honestly did not know.

1:31:50.560 --> 1:31:52.320
<v Speaker 7>I mean most of the time it was they were

1:31:52.320 --> 1:31:54.519
<v Speaker 7>in weird places, like yeah, they would always shoot in

1:31:54.600 --> 1:31:57.680
<v Speaker 7>like New York or Vegas or yeah.

1:31:57.760 --> 1:32:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, game shows are are all over the place. What what? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>What other stuff has your dad done besides the floor.

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<v Speaker 5>Well he did.

1:32:06.800 --> 1:32:09.360
<v Speaker 7>He also so who wants to be a millionaire? He

1:32:09.400 --> 1:32:13.920
<v Speaker 7>was doing before. Okay, change the game for practical jokers. Okay,

1:32:16.360 --> 1:32:17.439
<v Speaker 7>I'm like not doing him justice.

1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:18.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna it.

1:32:18.040 --> 1:32:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Wants to be a millionaire. Was always in New York.

1:32:19.920 --> 1:32:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was so he was in New York

1:32:22.400 --> 1:32:24.759
<v Speaker 3>for a little bit to do that. Okay, because Sarah

1:32:24.760 --> 1:32:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Shaeffer used to write on that.

1:32:25.920 --> 1:32:27.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah cool.

1:32:27.360 --> 1:32:29.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and now him and my mom, uh they work

1:32:29.600 --> 1:32:32.280
<v Speaker 7>on like original game shows together, and they pitched those, so.

1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:34.080
<v Speaker 5>Oh pretty cool.

1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how I used to make money as a

1:32:38.400 --> 1:32:44.440
<v Speaker 2>young comedian. I would book these weird game shows Truth Truth, Lie, Detectors,

1:32:45.240 --> 1:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Joker Off, Yeah, comedy Knaka. I was, I like, well,

1:32:49.760 --> 1:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I love games, but yeah, that's so exciting.

1:32:53.760 --> 1:32:53.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:55.560
<v Speaker 7>I think I'm like kind of banned from being on

1:32:55.600 --> 1:32:58.400
<v Speaker 7>a game show ever now because he's he's so like

1:32:58.479 --> 1:32:59.479
<v Speaker 7>tied into that world.

1:32:59.560 --> 1:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, get like, ye, someday I want to be on

1:33:04.400 --> 1:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Family Feud.

1:33:05.400 --> 1:33:06.559
<v Speaker 3>That's that. I'm sure.

1:33:06.560 --> 1:33:10.000
<v Speaker 7>I yell at the TV when I watched that show.

1:33:10.000 --> 1:33:11.479
<v Speaker 7>I think I could do a much better job than

1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:12.400
<v Speaker 7>most of the people on there.

1:33:12.520 --> 1:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Oh my gosh, what an interesting Okay. So

1:33:15.760 --> 1:33:18.479
<v Speaker 1>now you're like, so you guys play games at home?

1:33:19.720 --> 1:33:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Are your parents like no game. We can't do any

1:33:22.640 --> 1:33:23.439
<v Speaker 1>games at home.

1:33:23.640 --> 1:33:26.800
<v Speaker 5>My mom hates games. Yeah, we don't. Oh, we're not

1:33:26.840 --> 1:33:28.520
<v Speaker 5>even a game family. Yeah.

1:33:28.640 --> 1:33:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Wait, so you also play golf?

1:33:32.439 --> 1:33:32.800
<v Speaker 5>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the UCLA golf team. Is that really competitive?

1:33:35.439 --> 1:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not to bring it back to the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but did your dad ever twist your wrist because you

1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't make a good score in golf?

1:33:41.680 --> 1:33:41.880
<v Speaker 5>No?

1:33:41.960 --> 1:33:44.559
<v Speaker 7>But that I mean yeah, I mean growing up, so yeah,

1:33:44.560 --> 1:33:46.800
<v Speaker 7>I played competitive. I've been playing competitive golf since I

1:33:46.840 --> 1:33:48.080
<v Speaker 7>was like six years old.

1:33:48.200 --> 1:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Really, there's competitive golf when you're six. Oh of course

1:33:53.240 --> 1:33:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know golf. Golf feels like something that starts

1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>out like when you're twelve, Like it doesn't feel like

1:33:57.840 --> 1:33:58.919
<v Speaker 1>it seems like a little.

1:33:58.680 --> 1:34:01.599
<v Speaker 5>Baby when you're seventy No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:34:01.439 --> 1:34:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you're around yeah.

1:34:04.800 --> 1:34:06.760
<v Speaker 7>Once yeah, once your hair goes great, that's when you

1:34:06.760 --> 1:34:10.559
<v Speaker 7>start playing. No, it was, I mean for sure, you see,

1:34:10.600 --> 1:34:12.840
<v Speaker 7>like a lot of like my parents never cared. I mean,

1:34:12.920 --> 1:34:14.879
<v Speaker 7>no one in my family plays golf except for my grandpa.

1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:16.760
<v Speaker 7>So he was the only one that was really like,

1:34:16.960 --> 1:34:19.160
<v Speaker 7>actually know what was going on all the time. My

1:34:19.280 --> 1:34:21.519
<v Speaker 7>mom sort of grew to learn because she would take

1:34:21.520 --> 1:34:24.599
<v Speaker 7>me to tournaments and stuff. But yeah, I mean there's

1:34:24.640 --> 1:34:27.640
<v Speaker 7>definitely some some serious golf parents. The golf dads are

1:34:27.680 --> 1:34:28.120
<v Speaker 7>no joke.

1:34:29.800 --> 1:34:30.760
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I played.

1:34:32.600 --> 1:34:35.680
<v Speaker 7>Throughout high school, I sorted taking it a bit more seriously,

1:34:36.840 --> 1:34:39.080
<v Speaker 7>and then played two years of D one golf at

1:34:39.120 --> 1:34:41.120
<v Speaker 7>UCLA And now I've sort of switched my focus back

1:34:41.160 --> 1:34:44.960
<v Speaker 7>to performing and yeah, getting back.

1:34:44.800 --> 1:34:48.760
<v Speaker 5>To that that that side of my world.

1:34:50.160 --> 1:34:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Athlete.

1:34:50.800 --> 1:34:54.559
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, it's I mean it's intense, it's it's it's

1:34:54.600 --> 1:34:57.760
<v Speaker 7>a lot, it's a full time job, but it's super cool.

1:34:57.760 --> 1:35:00.679
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I've gotten to play like all the coolest

1:35:00.680 --> 1:35:02.760
<v Speaker 7>golf courses that I've that I've had wanted to play

1:35:02.760 --> 1:35:05.360
<v Speaker 7>since I was a kid, and it was Yeah, I

1:35:05.360 --> 1:35:08.679
<v Speaker 7>don't know, I like, will never not love just being

1:35:08.680 --> 1:35:09.519
<v Speaker 7>out on the golf course.

1:35:09.560 --> 1:35:11.519
<v Speaker 3>So do you golf casually all the time?

1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:12.640
<v Speaker 4>I do?

1:35:12.920 --> 1:35:13.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1:35:13.160 --> 1:35:16.639
<v Speaker 2>And then are you stunting on people? And I go WHOA?

1:35:17.320 --> 1:35:19.280
<v Speaker 5>Every once in a while you have to write.

1:35:19.360 --> 1:35:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it brings me no joy. I went

1:35:21.360 --> 1:35:23.479
<v Speaker 2>to a driving range once. It gave me nothing, and

1:35:23.520 --> 1:35:25.519
<v Speaker 2>I gave the bucket of balls to someone and left.

1:35:25.800 --> 1:35:27.680
<v Speaker 7>I See, I don't think if I wasn't if I

1:35:27.720 --> 1:35:28.680
<v Speaker 7>hadn't started with I was a kid.

1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:30.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if i'd super be into it now.

1:35:30.120 --> 1:35:32.200
<v Speaker 5>No people are. It takes a while to get pretty good.

1:35:32.360 --> 1:35:34.280
<v Speaker 3>So you're graduating in one a couple of.

1:35:34.320 --> 1:35:36.519
<v Speaker 5>Months, graduating in June.

1:35:36.800 --> 1:35:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then what's the plan?

1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:39.479
<v Speaker 5>So a few more?

1:35:39.640 --> 1:35:41.920
<v Speaker 7>Well hopefully, I mean I've been auditioning a lot, been

1:35:41.920 --> 1:35:45.479
<v Speaker 7>writing a lot. I want to start maybe doing some

1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:48.320
<v Speaker 7>la improv. I haven't decided if I want to start

1:35:48.320 --> 1:35:51.280
<v Speaker 7>with you know, you see beer Groundlings. But yeah, in

1:35:51.320 --> 1:35:55.200
<v Speaker 7>the comedy scene, keep auditioning, just I don't know, make

1:35:55.240 --> 1:35:56.160
<v Speaker 7>some creative stuff happen.

1:35:56.280 --> 1:35:56.920
<v Speaker 3>That's cool.

1:35:57.120 --> 1:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I did all of the UCB at in New York,

1:35:59.800 --> 1:36:03.519
<v Speaker 1>but uh oh cool in l A. I've only really

1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:07.240
<v Speaker 1>done stand up at UCB. But I think Groundlings is

1:36:07.240 --> 1:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>awesome too. It's I don't know, I don't really know

1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:11.679
<v Speaker 1>what makes people choose one versus the other, to be honest,

1:36:12.760 --> 1:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of really fun people.

1:36:15.560 --> 1:36:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have to ask around a little. Yeah, you

1:36:19.080 --> 1:36:20.960
<v Speaker 3>got to be back on SVU. What would you like

1:36:21.000 --> 1:36:21.880
<v Speaker 3>to come back? As?

1:36:22.360 --> 1:36:25.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I mean I need however.

1:36:25.160 --> 1:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>They have different Yeah, what would you want to come back?

1:36:28.680 --> 1:36:34.040
<v Speaker 7>I'll be like the rookie, like the agent. I don't know, whatever,

1:36:34.160 --> 1:36:35.000
<v Speaker 7>whatever they need.

1:36:36.439 --> 1:36:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Because like you look, not that they care, They bring

1:36:38.720 --> 1:36:40.800
<v Speaker 1>people back on all the time, but like you look

1:36:40.920 --> 1:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>very different, like when you were a kid. Your hair

1:36:42.920 --> 1:36:45.839
<v Speaker 1>is lighter, like you know, you're just like you look different.

1:36:46.000 --> 1:36:47.120
<v Speaker 5>So it's true.

1:36:47.200 --> 1:36:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I think we could.

1:36:48.880 --> 1:36:50.439
<v Speaker 1>No one would be like, hey, that's the kid that

1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>did that hockey stick.

1:36:52.400 --> 1:36:54.200
<v Speaker 7>And even if they'd be like, wow, this kid has

1:36:54.240 --> 1:36:55.280
<v Speaker 7>such an amazing redemption.

1:36:55.439 --> 1:36:58.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, we need you back on.

1:36:59.640 --> 1:37:03.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree, let's make it happen.

1:37:03.439 --> 1:37:03.719
<v Speaker 4>Well.

1:37:04.360 --> 1:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Also, since you're in call, are they are? Do you

1:37:08.000 --> 1:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>find that your peers are reading? Or do you think

1:37:11.080 --> 1:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>we're cooked?

1:37:13.680 --> 1:37:15.639
<v Speaker 5>Are people doing? Peers are reading? No?

1:37:16.040 --> 1:37:18.400
<v Speaker 7>Yes, I think that that the art has not been lost.

1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:20.320
<v Speaker 7>Also mean I go to UCLA, we have kind of

1:37:20.360 --> 1:37:23.439
<v Speaker 7>like a there's this whole performative era that's sort of

1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:25.720
<v Speaker 7>going on currently right now too, so it's hard to

1:37:25.720 --> 1:37:30.760
<v Speaker 7>discern who's reading like and who's reading to seem like

1:37:30.800 --> 1:37:34.160
<v Speaker 7>they're uh cool and smoked cigarettes and.

1:37:34.040 --> 1:37:34.840
<v Speaker 5>Are from silver Lake.

1:37:36.000 --> 1:37:36.960
<v Speaker 3>And I have noticed that.

1:37:37.760 --> 1:37:39.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're back in a scary way.

1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:40.759
<v Speaker 3>And it's because of heat of rivalry.

1:37:40.760 --> 1:37:42.320
<v Speaker 5>I think staying away.

1:37:42.439 --> 1:37:44.400
<v Speaker 7>Who knows it seems like everything is sort of coming

1:37:44.400 --> 1:37:45.640
<v Speaker 7>back to that heat of robbery for me.

1:37:45.760 --> 1:37:47.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's how I started reading.

1:37:47.360 --> 1:37:51.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, right, but yeah, I think reading it. Reading

1:37:51.400 --> 1:37:52.439
<v Speaker 5>is back in. Reading is in.

1:37:52.560 --> 1:37:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Reading is in, reading is in. Cigarettes are in. So

1:37:56.040 --> 1:37:57.400
<v Speaker 3>the kids are doing their homework.

1:37:57.439 --> 1:37:59.920
<v Speaker 5>No, no, the kids are doing their homework.

1:38:00.360 --> 1:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait, before we and also before we end that way,

1:38:03.439 --> 1:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I have to say, getting you back

1:38:04.960 --> 1:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>on Law and Order doesn't seem impossible at all, because

1:38:07.040 --> 1:38:09.479
<v Speaker 1>you also just did a Chicago med Dick Wolf Universe.

1:38:09.520 --> 1:38:12.320
<v Speaker 1>They still got you. They've still got you spinning around

1:38:12.320 --> 1:38:16.800
<v Speaker 1>in the Dick Wolf universe. But you also did an

1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:20.280
<v Speaker 1>episode of The Thunderman's which is like my daughter's favorite show.

1:38:20.840 --> 1:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And I've been doing a joke in my stand up

1:38:23.000 --> 1:38:25.519
<v Speaker 1>lately that that show is making my daughter talk like

1:38:25.680 --> 1:38:29.519
<v Speaker 1>a Nickelodeon kid. Now she'll be like, Mom, you gotta

1:38:29.560 --> 1:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>see what Oscar's doing.

1:38:30.840 --> 1:38:32.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, why are you talking like that?

1:38:32.360 --> 1:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Like she just that is hilarious, you know, and you

1:38:34.800 --> 1:38:37.240
<v Speaker 1>play like the one of the main characters a young version.

1:38:38.200 --> 1:38:41.120
<v Speaker 7>Yeah that was just like a one episode. Yeah that

1:38:41.240 --> 1:38:42.920
<v Speaker 7>is that's so funny that you mentioned that too. There

1:38:42.920 --> 1:38:46.640
<v Speaker 7>it's like that Nickelodeon Disney Channel Cadence is so recognizable.

1:38:46.640 --> 1:38:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Totally.

1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I worked on a Nickelodeon show when I

1:38:49.880 --> 1:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was younger, like on the production side, and was like, wow,

1:38:52.960 --> 1:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>these kids really do have a way of talking. But

1:38:56.479 --> 1:38:58.519
<v Speaker 1>now my daughter and then you did a voice on

1:38:58.960 --> 1:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Elena of Avalor, which is my son's favorite cartoon show.

1:39:02.200 --> 1:39:07.840
<v Speaker 3>So today you're definitely kids.

1:39:08.240 --> 1:39:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:39:08.560 --> 1:39:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Top, They're gonna be exciting, They're gonna.

1:39:10.800 --> 1:39:12.320
<v Speaker 5>Be I'm honored.

1:39:12.400 --> 1:39:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Well, we can't wait to see what

1:39:15.920 --> 1:39:17.800
<v Speaker 3>you do. Yeah. I can't wait to see what you

1:39:17.840 --> 1:39:18.240
<v Speaker 3>do next.

1:39:18.240 --> 1:39:19.080
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it.

1:39:23.320 --> 1:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I loved him. What a young man, What a nice

1:39:25.800 --> 1:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>young man. You know, we talk sometimes to some young

1:39:28.280 --> 1:39:30.639
<v Speaker 1>people and it just gives me some faith in the future.

1:39:30.680 --> 1:39:32.360
<v Speaker 3>I feel like, that's a nice kid. That's a kid

1:39:32.400 --> 1:39:33.519
<v Speaker 3>that's gonna help.

1:39:34.720 --> 1:39:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's good at a lot of stuff, sweet Eye,

1:39:38.280 --> 1:39:41.160
<v Speaker 2>this is great. Oh wait, I know I've been talking

1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:43.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot about stickers, but my friend got me a

1:39:43.479 --> 1:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>sticker book, like from childhood. So the sheets will keep

1:39:47.240 --> 1:39:50.759
<v Speaker 2>all my stickers safe, you know, like you can take.

1:39:50.640 --> 1:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Them on it, you can take them on and off.

1:39:51.920 --> 1:39:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Did you not grow up doing this. No, wait, you

1:39:54.439 --> 1:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>can take the sticker on and off, Like the material

1:39:57.280 --> 1:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>of this paper is like a sticker backing sheet.

1:40:00.400 --> 1:40:03.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you can like they can live forever here.

1:40:03.680 --> 1:40:05.719
<v Speaker 2>You can then use them, but they can live here.

1:40:06.360 --> 1:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen that. Oh yeah, this was like a

1:40:10.320 --> 1:40:12.640
<v Speaker 2>big deal to me in second grade. But Julia was

1:40:12.680 --> 1:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>in La and the store is in La. It's called

1:40:15.000 --> 1:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Sticker Planet. Cool, it's aid the Grove, and so it's

1:40:20.040 --> 1:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>like these sheets and then I got like, she brought

1:40:23.200 --> 1:40:25.599
<v Speaker 2>me these stickers so you can go nice.

1:40:25.960 --> 1:40:28.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh that's great the grove. Yeah.

1:40:28.640 --> 1:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like we had sticker books that were

1:40:31.920 --> 1:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like albums, were like I don't know if you like

1:40:33.960 --> 1:40:36.599
<v Speaker 1>put them in sheets, but that's better.

1:40:36.680 --> 1:40:39.120
<v Speaker 3>What you have is better. I just I think you're confused.

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<v Speaker 2>You might not have, but the people you saw with

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<v Speaker 2>sticker books were using this because what's the point You

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<v Speaker 2>could just put it in a notebook, Like, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>point of a sticker book if you can't be switching

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<v Speaker 2>and flopping and flipping.

1:40:48.600 --> 1:40:52.360
<v Speaker 1>This is what your peers were using. Okay, did you

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<v Speaker 1>collect erasers?

1:40:53.320 --> 1:40:56.639
<v Speaker 3>What were you doing? Any books? Glass troll dolls? Troll

1:40:56.680 --> 1:40:58.240
<v Speaker 3>dolls for like a minute, but I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm talking school. I'm talking little pencils. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have the pencils with the lead that you pushed from

1:41:04.200 --> 1:41:07.000
<v Speaker 2>the bottom. They smelled like little oranges? Like what did

1:41:07.040 --> 1:41:09.280
<v Speaker 2>you get at the book fair? Did you get book marks?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Huh?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I had that stuff, okay, and pencil toppers. I likes

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<v Speaker 1>different erasers, erasers that smelled like fruit and stuff.

1:41:19.280 --> 1:41:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think stickers was ever like a big

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<v Speaker 1>but my kids love stickers. They have a sticker box

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<v Speaker 1>with all their stickers just loose.

1:41:26.360 --> 1:41:27.000
<v Speaker 3>So that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So you should get them this book because when it's loose,

1:41:28.640 --> 1:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like they're not actually being used.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like holding on them.

1:41:30.920 --> 1:41:33.200
<v Speaker 2>And I do like buying stickers, but this I can

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<v Speaker 2>like put them in fund designs, group them together, and

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<v Speaker 2>then if I want to use them, I can.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll stay fresh for me. That's a great idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to do it. Yeah, I think your kids will

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<v Speaker 1>like it. And it's I guess it's in the farmer's

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<v Speaker 1>market of the grove.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we have to talk about hockey and sex crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been over to the fucking Grove in a minutely,

1:41:54.040 --> 1:41:57.559
<v Speaker 1>just stickers right now. I used to be a real

1:41:57.600 --> 1:41:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Grove devotee when I lived in West Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so.

1:42:02.439 --> 1:42:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Topic, masculinity ruins everything. It's wrong, it's bad, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the cause of everything bad.

1:42:08.760 --> 1:42:10.479
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, that's what I was gonna say.

1:42:10.520 --> 1:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>And also like yes, and like men having this whole

1:42:14.920 --> 1:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>idea that their children are like their legacy and like

1:42:18.200 --> 1:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>they have to accomplish all the things that you failed

1:42:20.439 --> 1:42:22.479
<v Speaker 1>at or fucked up at, Like that's really actually not

1:42:22.560 --> 1:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>what they're for children, So don't put that on.

1:42:27.080 --> 1:42:29.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean, also, oh my gosh, but like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know this. This is sad.

1:42:32.200 --> 1:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>It's sad. This little boy, it's sad. He killed his

1:42:34.960 --> 1:42:39.479
<v Speaker 2>fucking friend. His friend's dead, raped in front of his

1:42:39.560 --> 1:42:42.920
<v Speaker 2>other friends. But what the fuck? And then the dad,

1:42:43.080 --> 1:42:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, my favorite part of that episode, I will

1:42:44.760 --> 1:42:47.439
<v Speaker 2>be honest, is the dad going whatever, some plans don't

1:42:47.439 --> 1:42:50.400
<v Speaker 2>work out. Yeah, you gotta listen to everything I say,

1:42:50.439 --> 1:42:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's like you do beat him if he doesn't.

1:42:52.040 --> 1:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, I don't know what you want from this kid,

1:42:55.960 --> 1:42:59.720
<v Speaker 1>so true, Like what what sure I told you to?

1:43:00.120 --> 1:43:01.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, anally rape your friend.

1:43:01.880 --> 1:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Things don't work out sometimes, stop being a bitch, like

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<v Speaker 1>get oh my god.

1:43:08.640 --> 1:43:10.479
<v Speaker 3>But you know, it's like that man was.

1:43:10.439 --> 1:43:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Probably abused and his dad was probably abused. It's like

1:43:13.720 --> 1:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>just a fucking cycle of violence that you're at liberty

1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:17.439
<v Speaker 1>to break at any point.

1:43:18.640 --> 1:43:21.760
<v Speaker 2>But yes, straight in the middle of it, like this

1:43:21.800 --> 1:43:23.200
<v Speaker 2>podcast has broken my brain.

1:43:23.720 --> 1:43:25.200
<v Speaker 3>In the middle of my set. It was like a

1:43:25.240 --> 1:43:26.479
<v Speaker 3>weird moment. Something happened.

1:43:26.520 --> 1:43:28.599
<v Speaker 2>I go, just so you know, child marriage is legal

1:43:28.600 --> 1:43:31.120
<v Speaker 2>in most states in America. Yeah, And then it was

1:43:31.200 --> 1:43:33.240
<v Speaker 2>dead silent, and I go, I made you laugh enough

1:43:33.280 --> 1:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>you can hear a hard fact. I go, the laws

1:43:35.280 --> 1:43:37.720
<v Speaker 2>do that so then your parents can marry you off

1:43:37.760 --> 1:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and then it's not pedophilia.

1:43:39.200 --> 1:43:39.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

1:43:40.240 --> 1:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Was this on stage or was it yeah in oh

1:43:42.640 --> 1:43:44.439
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, like was this with a friend group?

1:43:44.479 --> 1:43:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Nope, on stage, No, it's on stage. The silent moment.

1:43:47.360 --> 1:43:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it came up. I should watch

1:43:48.880 --> 1:43:50.240
<v Speaker 2>the tape, but I just decided.

1:43:50.400 --> 1:43:52.479
<v Speaker 1>And then it was silent, and I go, whatever, I'll

1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>do a joke next, but something to think about.

1:43:55.240 --> 1:43:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:43:56.160 --> 1:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sometimes you gotta you gotta you gotta share a fact.

1:43:59.439 --> 1:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>You gotta aero sex crime Factuh.

1:44:02.840 --> 1:44:04.560
<v Speaker 3>No, this is a terrible episode.

1:44:04.600 --> 1:44:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Sports should be fun, like you can win and be

1:44:06.840 --> 1:44:11.760
<v Speaker 2>a good person, Like I just you could be competitive

1:44:11.800 --> 1:44:13.640
<v Speaker 2>on the court and not rape your friend with a

1:44:13.680 --> 1:44:16.040
<v Speaker 2>hockey stick in front of his friends.

1:44:16.360 --> 1:44:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just kind of like can't. It's like why

1:44:19.479 --> 1:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I sort of couldn't get into Friday Night Lights. It's

1:44:21.720 --> 1:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>like I just I'm like, I just have a hard

1:44:24.400 --> 1:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>time taking sports that seriously.

1:44:26.760 --> 1:44:29.080
<v Speaker 2>That's like I think it's crazy about how cute when

1:44:29.080 --> 1:44:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Michael B. Jordan and Jesse Plemons had a cute moment

1:44:31.439 --> 1:44:32.719
<v Speaker 2>when Michael won the oscar?

1:44:32.840 --> 1:44:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Did you see that? Because they were both on Friday

1:44:34.160 --> 1:44:34.599
<v Speaker 3>Night Lights.

1:44:34.920 --> 1:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so when he walked off, he like he didn't.

1:44:38.120 --> 1:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I just think that I didn't know that. I was

1:44:41.040 --> 1:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>like origin was Friday Night Lights? Well for me, he

1:44:43.280 --> 1:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>was in Parenthood and he was in the wire, but

1:44:45.760 --> 1:44:51.639
<v Speaker 1>like Parenthood was he played one of the girls boyfriends? Yes, yes, yes, yes,

1:44:51.720 --> 1:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and Bruiteville Station. I could not watch, but it like

1:44:58.800 --> 1:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember that movie.

1:45:00.240 --> 1:45:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Out Yes, I remember that being like, who's Michael B. Jordan?

1:45:03.160 --> 1:45:04.800
<v Speaker 3>That sounds like is he related to Michael Jordan?

1:45:04.960 --> 1:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>And then that but that I remember being his big

1:45:07.439 --> 1:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>thing that like was what made people pay attention to him.

1:45:11.840 --> 1:45:16.720
<v Speaker 1>But also a fun little cameo is Cragan is going

1:45:16.800 --> 1:45:18.599
<v Speaker 1>to be on the pit. I mean at this point

1:45:18.600 --> 1:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that this episode's out, it's already the episode's already come out.

1:45:20.880 --> 1:45:23.519
<v Speaker 1>So if you're a Pitthead, get over there, babies, Cragan

1:45:23.800 --> 1:45:24.080
<v Speaker 1>is in.

1:45:24.720 --> 1:45:26.519
<v Speaker 3>I hope it's a crossover. I hope he's just playing

1:45:26.560 --> 1:45:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Don Craigan.

1:45:27.200 --> 1:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>He's like, he moved to Pittsburgh after New York and

1:45:29.360 --> 1:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that's where he is, and he's having heart palpitations and

1:45:32.160 --> 1:45:34.920
<v Speaker 1>he needs to go see doctor Noah Wiley. All right,

1:45:36.680 --> 1:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>let's get into Sister Peg that. What would Sister Peg

1:45:41.040 --> 1:45:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Do is our weekly segment where we direct you to

1:45:43.640 --> 1:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>an organization, a book, a documentary, something to give you

1:45:47.320 --> 1:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>more information about what we talked about in the episode,

1:45:50.360 --> 1:45:53.759
<v Speaker 1>or just on the subject. And we kind of talked

1:45:53.800 --> 1:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>in this episode a little bit about how hockey is,

1:45:56.120 --> 1:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, not not super diverse, and it's it feels

1:45:58.960 --> 1:46:02.439
<v Speaker 1>like it's mostly for kids with more money, and we

1:46:02.520 --> 1:46:05.439
<v Speaker 1>wanted to point you to the Hockey Diversity Alliance, which

1:46:05.439 --> 1:46:09.479
<v Speaker 1>is an organization to committed to fostering inclusivity, combating discrimination,

1:46:09.600 --> 1:46:13.759
<v Speaker 1>and advancing diversity within the hockey community. They have education programs,

1:46:13.760 --> 1:46:16.839
<v Speaker 1>social initiatives, and scholarships. So if you'd like to volunteer

1:46:16.920 --> 1:46:20.840
<v Speaker 1>or donate, head on over to the Hockeydiversity Alliance dot org.

1:46:21.479 --> 1:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure Heated Rivalry is bringing a lot of

1:46:23.680 --> 1:46:29.240
<v Speaker 1>attention to the hockey world, but let's get some diversity

1:46:29.240 --> 1:46:31.960
<v Speaker 1>in over there. And yeah, we'll pot that will be

1:46:32.000 --> 1:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>linked in our show notes and we'll be posted in

1:46:34.720 --> 1:46:37.400
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1:46:43.439 --> 1:46:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for that.

1:46:45.520 --> 1:46:49.200
<v Speaker 2>And next week there's another episode We Never Stop and

1:46:49.240 --> 1:46:52.839
<v Speaker 2>it is called Father Dearest, so obviously sick and twisted.

1:46:53.320 --> 1:46:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Season thirteen, Episode twenty. We're obsessed with you always forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Please come see me on the road. I think I'm

1:47:00.439 --> 1:47:01.280
<v Speaker 2>somewhere tonight, to.

1:47:01.240 --> 1:47:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Be honest, So yeah, the thirty first or the thirtieth

1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>oh of April of April, I've honestly never been home

1:47:09.040 --> 1:47:10.519
<v Speaker 1>for this long, Like I don't even know what I'm

1:47:10.520 --> 1:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna do.

1:47:10.920 --> 1:47:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm truly home for like five weeks in a row.

1:47:13.800 --> 1:47:19.000
<v Speaker 2>That's never happened since COVID, and I just like, I

1:47:19.000 --> 1:47:20.800
<v Speaker 2>can't even believe it.

1:47:19.760 --> 1:47:23.599
<v Speaker 3>It'll be fun. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled.

1:47:23.680 --> 1:47:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna like, oh my god, I can't. I

1:47:26.800 --> 1:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>can't even believe I'm gonna be like a regular girl. Well,

1:47:28.840 --> 1:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>because yesterday I was like, I love happy hour. I

1:47:30.439 --> 1:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>love seeing people like outside of work, you know, like

1:47:33.040 --> 1:47:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I love being a part of the cult.

1:47:34.200 --> 1:47:36.000
<v Speaker 3>And she Actulia was like, I love that.

1:47:36.040 --> 1:47:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Happy hour is just like a fun experience, a little

1:47:38.360 --> 1:47:39.760
<v Speaker 2>a little trivial moment for you.

1:47:39.920 --> 1:47:43.320
<v Speaker 1>She's not your reality at all, coming to drown out

1:47:43.320 --> 1:47:43.720
<v Speaker 1>your job.

1:47:43.760 --> 1:47:45.679
<v Speaker 2>But I was like, yeah, for sure, I just feel

1:47:45.680 --> 1:47:48.080
<v Speaker 2>like I'm in sex and the city, you know. And

1:47:48.040 --> 1:47:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and shego happy hour was illegal. I never experienced it. Why,

1:47:52.040 --> 1:47:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's such a weird thing, is it true.

1:47:55.000 --> 1:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Someone was telling me that bars in New York close

1:47:56.880 --> 1:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>early now, like since COVID.

1:47:59.280 --> 1:48:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Honey, I can get you to four am if you

1:48:01.360 --> 1:48:05.040
<v Speaker 3>want to stay up. I was like, I haven't heard that.

1:48:06.320 --> 1:48:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean some bars do.

1:48:07.439 --> 1:48:11.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm sad with cellcle closes there's less diners whatever, but like, yeah,

1:48:11.720 --> 1:48:15.599
<v Speaker 2>you could stay out if you want to stay out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

1:48:15.840 --> 1:48:17.320
<v Speaker 2>and why don't you be cool be friends with a

1:48:17.360 --> 1:48:19.320
<v Speaker 2>bartender and be able to stay later. I don't know

1:48:19.360 --> 1:48:25.200
<v Speaker 2>what to tell you, fucking dork. And with that, we'll

1:48:25.240 --> 1:48:36.800
<v Speaker 2>see you next week. Bye, guys. That's Messed Up as

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