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Speaker 2: We will get to the Otani chronicles and of course

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Speaker 2: the topic that won't die. There are objective truths and

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Speaker 2: there are personal feelings. Yes, you know, I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: the College Football Committee and their decision. Midnight, I will

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Speaker 2: tell you why they made the right decision and what

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Speaker 2: the thought process was. And then of course later in

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Speaker 2: the show we'll get to the NBA in season tournament. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's been a success. We can set aside all the

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Speaker 2: contradictions and grievances. It's been a success. But you know,

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Speaker 2: have you noticed that college basketball is underway? So why

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Speaker 2: don't we just take a quick respite from all the

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Speaker 2: other high jinks and take a minute to welcome in

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Speaker 2: a special gentleman He is the what I would call

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Speaker 2: the legend, the poet laureate of college basketball. Say hello

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Speaker 2: to Alan Boston. Alan, always a pleasure. How you doing tonight.

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Speaker 3: I'm in a good place.

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Speaker 2: How are you wonderful? And I want the folks to

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Speaker 2: know because obviously you're a fan favorite and the mire

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Speaker 2: mention of your name now you know, my friend, and

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Speaker 2: you probably did. But the great ones are always humble.

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Speaker 2: So here's the bottom line. I want anybody to know.

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Speaker 2: Alan will be with us for two segments tonight because

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot of stuff to get to, and

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Speaker 2: one of the things we're going to get to is

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Speaker 2: Alan's going to take us behind the curtain and give

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Speaker 2: us his inner thinking, his approach to handicapping. You're going

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Speaker 2: to want to hear about that, because obviously his record

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Speaker 2: speaks for itself. But Alan, here's the thing. We're thirty

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Speaker 2: days into the new college season. There have been up since,

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Speaker 2: there have been storylines, but let me start with this.

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Speaker 2: What's been your biggest takeaway so far in the first

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Speaker 3: How poor the play has been?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 3: They start they start too early. Yeah, well it's it's

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Speaker 3: a I mean, it's a how do I say it

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Speaker 3: without swearing. It's a mess with the rampant transferring and

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Speaker 3: inability of of UH coaches to create programs because they're

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Speaker 3: constantly dealing with an influx of new players every year.

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Speaker 3: So it's the North Carolina Arizona game. The first half

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Speaker 3: was bought, aline, unwatchable, UH and we're already a few

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Speaker 3: games in UH. Just just overall, the the the quality

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Speaker 3: of play and the quality of coaching has been a

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Speaker 3: little left much to be desired to my eye. Not

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Speaker 3: that I'm an expert in watching basketball, I certainly am not.

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Speaker 3: I know had a handicap. I'm not UH an extra

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Speaker 3: Ye, that's that's been. What's been. That's been very disappointing.

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Speaker 3: It is just.

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Speaker 2: I do believe we are in a a in a

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Speaker 2: Keishad Johnson. They're athletic, they're defensively tough. They looked like

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Speaker 2: to me the best team in the country. What have

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Speaker 2: and teams that were expected to do well that aren't

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I got three hunds and sixteen as my head, well,

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Speaker 3: off the top of my head. Duke has been a

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Speaker 3: major disappointment. Yeah, I thought they'd be a home run

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Speaker 3: team this year. I thought Shire would be an amazing coach.

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Speaker 3: He was a good CEO, he wasn't a very good coach.

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Speaker 3: They ran very simplistic stuff. They were very very defendable.

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Speaker 3: And then in the finals against Foalwer, We're going way back.

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Speaker 3: better last year, all right, first year doing it. They

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Speaker 3: As far as uh a surprise, well, uh, South Carolina

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Speaker 3: job at Chattanooga just kept losing players and players to

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Speaker 3: just something that just seems to be missing. I imber

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Speaker 3: They almost every won back and uh Mehani went from

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Speaker 3: But the season is young, yo. That's a few thoughts

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Speaker 2: My head quickly, and I totally agree with about has

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Speaker 3: They lost that pro the kid with the long last name,

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Speaker 3: who was far and away their best player. And they're

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Speaker 2: We glossed over Yukon now heading into the season, I

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Speaker 2: And I think they look even better now that the

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Speaker 3: I I don't think Early is great, but but I

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Speaker 3: actually think they they're better this year than last year.

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Speaker 3: so as far as repeating, I would make them the

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Speaker 2: You know, and our good buddy Jason smith yos to

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Speaker 2: show week nights with Mike Carmon. It's a great show.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna steal one of his lines, but give him credit.

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Speaker 2: He calls it never again. Never again will I fall

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Speaker 2: for Purdue. And heading into the season, all the accolades

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Speaker 3: No, they they it's the same. It's the same year

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Speaker 3: But they're not replete with five star recruits. I think

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Speaker 2: There's something about Alan hank tight. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: quickly on the new block charge rule. Want to get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on, Bronnie James, and then let's get into

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Speaker 2: your philosophy on handicapping. So we'll go wrap and fire

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Speaker 2: Pacific five am Eastern. Just getting started, Alan before we

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Speaker 2: dive into your approach to handicapping, Just to wrap up

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Speaker 2: some thoughts on Purdue and their expectations and even with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I I I misspoke earlier. I had

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Speaker 3: I had the rebounding in my head because I actually

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Speaker 3: rebounded Northwestern fifty two to twenty seven. That that was

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Speaker 3: in my head. So it's just the lack of outside

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Speaker 3: Now to me that that's a you know, they didn't

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Speaker 2: Well, I loved I loved the clean little reference like that.

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Speaker 2: That I'll never forget that game. Cleveland stayed catching five

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's keep it really really annoying. This

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Speaker 3: Even ruined they even ruined the Big Five. They had

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Speaker 3: a Big Five tournament or pods and everything. They played

436
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 3: a triple header at that with US the seventy six

437
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 3: ers played basketball. When I went to pen the Big

438
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: Five games were all played at the Pluster, which is

439
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: about fifty two hundred feet right on top of the court,

440
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: and half the arena was for one team and half

441
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 3: the arena was for the other teams. It was these

442
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: neutral court wars. There was no better atmosphere and nowhere

443
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Speaker 3: in the world. I don't care what people from Kansas

444
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: an okamp from Butler say, the Pluster at the Big

445
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Speaker 3: Five was just as riveting total from the heart, blood bats,

446
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: night in and night out whenever they played those neutral

447
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 3: court games there. And then Raleigh Massamino came around and wins,

448
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: wins an NCAA tournament and he says, screw you with

449
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: too good for you. And that was the end of

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00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 3: the Big Five at the Poluster. And that's very, very

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Speaker 3: very sad. So all the traditions of basketball are going

452
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: out the window. All the rivalries are NORTHEASTNMBU, who played

453
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: the first game of the year. That I mean, this

454
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: is really really sad. That money is just trumping all

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00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: And I'll leave you with that. That really really sad.

456
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: Because it's college it's it's supposed to be on education,

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00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 3: and if you like playing the game of basketball, you

458
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: go play it. It's not supposed to be a minor

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00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: league to the NBA, and it's not supposed to about

460
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 3: everyone making money. Oh they're sharing some of the money

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00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: with the kids. Well I'd argue that's not good either.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: All right, pal, good stuff. Alan. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 2: in a few weeks from conference play starts. Get some rest,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime, cheers you got.

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Speaker 2: It's Alan Boston. Followhim on Twitter at Boston Red eighty eight.

468
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: As you can see, if you can just get over

469
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Speaker 2: this shyness, he's gonna be just fine. Coming up, can

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Speaker 2: we possibly chronicle the Shoe a Otani chronicles today. We'll

471
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Speaker 2: try to give you a timeline as to what happened,

472
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Speaker 2: what was supposed to happen, what they said would happened,

473
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Speaker 2: what didn't happen, and what I think is going to happen.

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Speaker 2: But first let's go to our guy, Kevin Figures with

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Speaker 2: the latest.

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Speaker 7: Well, Bernie, what happened on Friday night was Kawhi Leonard

477
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 7: putting it on the Utah Jazz forty one points to

478
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 7: leave the Clippers to their third straight victory one seventeen

479
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 7: to one oh three was the final score in that one.

480
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 7: Lukadancik with thirty two points in ten assists for the Mavericks.

481
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 7: They picked up a one to twenty five to one

482
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Speaker 7: twelve victory over Portland, Houston beating the Nuggets in Denver

483
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Speaker 7: one fourteen to one oh six behind twenty five points

484
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Speaker 7: from Jalen Green. It was the thunder one thirty eight

485
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Speaker 7: and the Warriors won thirty six in overtime. Minnesota a

486
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 7: league best seventeen and four record, they beat Memphis one

487
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 7: twenty seven to one oh three. He also had victories

488
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Speaker 7: for the Nets seventy six ers and Orlando, who handed

489
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 7: Detroit their nineteenth consecutive loss. And NFL news, the Chiefs

490
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 7: will be with our running back Isaiah Pacheco against Buffalo

491
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Speaker 7: on Sunday as he nurses a shoulder injury. Vikings receiver

492
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 7: Justin Jefferson will play against Las Vegas after missing the

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Speaker 7: previous seven games with a hamstring injury. Saints quarterback Derek

494
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 7: Carr questionable for their matchup against Carolina with a concussion,

495
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Speaker 7: rib and shoulder injury.

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Speaker 2: Back to Bernie Fretto, All right, thanks, buddy, appreciate that Kevin.

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Speaker 2: All right, if you woke up this morning, well hopefully

498
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: you woke up this morning, the first thing you heard

499
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: was it looked like Shoho Tani and the sho Leo

500
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: Tani sweepstakes were near an end. It was reported that

501
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 2: his decision was imminent by very reputable reporters. The why

502
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: I believe we're sourced. I don't bagging these guys ever,

503
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: I know I'll tough. This business can be and oh,

504
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 2: by the way, sources could have been correct, and people

505
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: can change their minds. So all of a sudden, Blue

506
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: Jays fans started flight tracking. The thought was he was

507
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: going to be a Blue Jay. This is the new

508
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: thing now. And apparently, apparently around nine to forty five

509
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: am Eastern time, word got to a gentleman, Well, he's

510
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 2: a pitcher for the Blue Jays, you say, Kakuchi. He

511
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: was convinced that Shoheo Tani was coming, so he reserved

512
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: an upscale sushi restaurant and started to make plans for

513
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: a party of more than fifty people at the Rogers

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Speaker 2: Center that was supposed to be That was supposed to

515
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: be the celebration for Otani signing. By the way, that

516
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: got over a thousand retweets, so people were into it.

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00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: Then about three or four hours later, a veteran Dodgers

518
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: reporter JP Hornstra, getting very respected, talked about the fact

519
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: that Shohei Otani was past the point and overturn it

520
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: was going to happen. The Dodgers were just going to

521
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: have to deal with it. But then about ten minutes later,

522
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: someone named Ben Nicholson debunked that, says, wait, there's no

523
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: decision made by Otani, nor is there a timeline. And

524
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: then John Rossi said he was on the way to Toronto,

525
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: and then that got debunked right, and it just wouldn't end.

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00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: And then finally it turned out the guy who was

527
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: on the plane with Robert Herdervik and you may have

528
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: seen him on on Shark Tank among other things, and

529
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: he played along with the joke. There was even a

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00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: mean with him in a Blue Jays uniform. First player

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Speaker 2: to host Dragons Dan lead to Major League Baseball and

532
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: home runs since faberr with ha ha ha, give it

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Speaker 2: up to our good friend John Rossi. He apologized, no

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00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: need for an apology. I know John, he wouldn't have

535
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: gone with that unless he had at least two or

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00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: three sources. People change your mind, things happen. Who knows,

537
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 2: what does it matter? But I do know this. This

538
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: is this is a news story that obviously has one

539
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: hell of a lot of what I would consider to

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00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: be interest, But I think ninety percent of the interest

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00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: is really coming from Dodgers fans. You got to understand

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00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: the Dodgers succinctly have laid out five reasons why they

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00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: want him. There's no dot in my mind, and I

544
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: understand it's not dead with the Angels, not dead with

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers, not dead with the Blue Jays, whatever the

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00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: case may be. The Dodgers have made the most cogent case.

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00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: Even though I've never believed he was going to La not.

548
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: I have my own reasons. I just think he likes

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00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: I don't think he wants to be the center of

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00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: attention that way. But here's the deal. The Dodgers believe

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00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: that Hollywood and Shoey Otani is a per match. They

552
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: believe Otani will be a huge box office straw no

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00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: matter what, which again is superfluous because the Dodgers already

554
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: draw four million fans a year, but Otani already in

555
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: Southern California. Otani already you know, has a big fan

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00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: base there. So when I continue on with the Dodgers,

557
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: the Dodgers won them. The second thing is the Dodgers

558
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: have I think, pitched to Otani. They give him Otani

559
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: the best chance to win. Mal Otani has had almost

560
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: three thousand played appearances in his major league career, which

561
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: is now, you know, six years old. He's faced almost

562
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: two thousand batters as a pitcher. None of them have

563
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: ever been in the postseason. So as Otani turns twenty nine,

564
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: they're looking at somebody who how much better would it

565
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: be to see him in the postseason. The Dodgers are

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Speaker 2: adamant that they give him the best chance to be

567
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: in the postseason. Do I think that's true? Yeah, I do.

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00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: You know, they won one since eighty eight and it

569
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: was in the you know, in the COVID year. But

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00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: the Dodgers can win that division. Toronto's gonna be in

571
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: a dog fight next year, and I don't think the

572
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: Angels are near winning. So from that standpoint, it's hard

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00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: to disagree with the Dodgers. The third reason the Dodgers,

574
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: it feels like they're ready to really make a big move.

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00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: They missed on Bryce Harper. They missed it. They didn't

576
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: get Freddy Freeman in the trade. But Dodgers, there's no

577
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: question they've had an absolute high level of consistent success,

578
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: which I think other fan bases are envious of. But

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00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: I think Dodgers fans, you know, after a while, you

580
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: get a little weary of watching your favorite team dominate

581
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: the regular season year and year out, only they get

582
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: knocked out early in the postseason, over and over at

583
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: the hands of teams that the Dodgers frankly feel that

584
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: they're better than. Now. There are plenty of avenues the

585
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: Dodgers can take this offseason to improve the team, but

586
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: I think they want something monumental that will re enter

587
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: the fans. If the Dodgers were to win the Otani

588
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: Sweets takes, it's all about that, right And by the way,

589
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: it's all about titles in Los Angeles, fair or not.

590
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: This era of Dodgers baseball is remembered as much for

591
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: their postseason disappointments. How many times have they called for

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00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts job, which is I think is ridiculous, right, But.

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Speaker 1: Think about it.

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00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: If you're a Dodgers fan, and I know you're listening

595
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: on five to seventy am here in Los Angeles. They're

596
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. I feel free to tweet at me

597
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: at Bernie Fratto if you agree with this or disagree

598
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: with this. The Dodgers have made eleven straight playoff appearances,

599
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: but one only one World Series title in that span.

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00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: They're now being somewhat compared to those Atlanta Braves teams

601
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: of the nineties and early two thousands. Atlanta won one

602
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: championship in nineteen ninety five, but they had fourteenth straight

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00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: and l East titles. Right. Finally, I think the Dodgers,

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00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: based on the group Think Echo Chamber, were viewed as

605
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: a leading contender for Otani, not only because they're a

606
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: big market team, tremendously financial resources, and they're determined to

607
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: override their recent setbacks in the field. But it's my

608
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: understanding that the Dodgers pursuit has seemingly been in the

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00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: works for a very long time, surreptitiously. Now despite their

610
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: ample budget, well, the Dodgers, they do have an importance

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00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: on maintaining paywell flexibility. They've got money right. They have

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00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: a lot of talented players that have left as free agents.

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00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: Cory Seger left, Trey Turner left, Max Schers are left,

614
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: and the Dodgers were a very conservative last offseason. And

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00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: if you look ahead, you know the only player signed

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00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: to a guaranteed contract past twenty four Mookie Bets, Freddie Freeman,

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00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: Max Munsey and Chris Taylor. Beyond that, it's only Bets

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00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: and Freeman. So I'm not saying they have to reload.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they're facing any on tour challenges.

620
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: What I am saying is I think they have a

621
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: crush on Otani and they believe it's a natural fit,

622
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: and they're trying very hard to get him. I truly

623
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen. Somebody has asked me

624
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: many times up until his recent as last week, I've

625
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: always had this sneaking suspission. You would just stay in Annai,

626
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 2: maybe just another year or two. Maybe they come up

627
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: with some creative deal. I know Ardi Marino wants them.

628
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: I don't think Shohi Otani is hardwareed the way people

629
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: think he should be. He's a very mellow guy. He's

630
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: a very private person. He loves living in southern California.

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Speaker 2: He may very well end up in Toronto. I don't know.

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00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm not well sourced on this. I'm not as interested

633
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: about this as and as other people are. Because every

634
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: time there's hullabaloo about the player who comes to town

635
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: that's supposed to be the savior. Well, i'll tell you,

636
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 2: I mean, and Bryce Harper's done very well in Philadelphia.

637
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: But have they won yet? No, no, they haven't. And

638
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: I will also tell you I may do this later

639
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: in the show, or I may do this tomorrow night

640
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: and Bernie Fraddle Show, the Saturday Night Bernie Fraddle Show.

641
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for the knuckleheads to come out of

642
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: the woodwork. Who can't wait to tell the angels how

643
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: stupid they were. Why couldn't you predict the future and

644
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: trade him at the deadline and get a bunch of prospects. Well,

645
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: let me tell you something. I will share the story

646
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: at twenty sixteen when Brian Cashman did that with the Yankees,

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Speaker 2: And I'll give names and dates, I'll bring tons of receipts.

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Speaker 2: the B block. I'm going to take a deep dive

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Speaker 2: into why the committee, the college Football Playoff Committee did

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Speaker 2: what they did omitting Florida State. And I'm going to

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Speaker 2: bring receipts. We're not gonna get emotional. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about facts. Hey, I know it sucks, the system stinks,

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Speaker 2: and there's a fundamental flaw which makes this rotten from

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Speaker 2: the beginning, and I will tell you, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to give you an objective viewpoint. Dan Patrick got into

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Speaker 2: it with Robert Griffin. It was well, Griffin tried to

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Speaker 2: get in with him, wouldn't le him finish his sentence.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna I'm gonna dive into this and and

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Speaker 2: bring some bring him some order to this chaos. If

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Speaker 2: it were as it were, l I V. Golf. Well,

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Speaker 2: you haven't heard them in a while, have you haven't

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Speaker 2: heard that name? Well, John Rahm now is part of

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Speaker 2: the l I V. His contract reportedly worth anywhere from

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Speaker 2: three hundred to five hundred million. This has been rumored

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Speaker 2: for weeks. The announcement was kind of stunning because it

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Speaker 2: does have some implications for rival tours. In June, the

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Speaker 2: Saudi Public Investment Fund, which funds l I V and

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Speaker 2: the PGA Tour, announced they had reached an agreement to

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Speaker 2: quote unify the game of golf on a global basis.

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Speaker 2: There were details, you know, they had to iron out

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Speaker 2: and adopt the ice cross the t's, but the announcement

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Speaker 2: of the framework of the agreement seemed as though it

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Speaker 2: would put an end to the battle of the competition,

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Speaker 2: to the diatribes between l I V and the PGA Tour.

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Speaker 2: So what happened, Well, one issue is that the agreement

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Speaker 2: was announcement. It was only in the early stages of

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Speaker 2: be negotiated. Maybe they should have done that. People spoke

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Speaker 2: to lawyers regarding the merger and their acquisition, and the

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Speaker 2: lawyers with merger and acquisition experience who pointed out it

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Speaker 2: was very unusual that the PGA and PIF announce your

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Speaker 2: agreement without an exclusive without an exclusivity window for negotiations. Now,

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Speaker 2: on paper, the agreement made sense because they can help

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Speaker 2: each other out. The PGA needs money and the liv's

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Speaker 2: got it, and the LIV want wants a bigger audience,

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Speaker 2: They want a bigger seat at the table. The thing is,

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Speaker 2: attorneys pointed out that most mergers acquisitions, the public doesn't

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Speaker 2: really know about this until it's close to being finalized

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Speaker 2: or finalized, and most details that are agreed upon in

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Speaker 2: the PGA tour, and the LIV announced that the plans

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Speaker 2: they announced too early publicly, and in the process, the

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Speaker 2: tour needed time to digest the news and then help

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Speaker 2: shape the final agreement. Right, they had negotiated to finalize

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Speaker 2: the agreement, and it was supposed to be done. I

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Speaker 2: think by December thirty one. There's a deadline coming up,

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Speaker 2: and there's some kind of deadline. And now what this

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Speaker 2: John Ram deal does is raise questions about whether the

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Speaker 2: Saudi's think a deal can be reached. Why would you

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Speaker 2: throw so much money at John Ram if you're going

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Speaker 2: to merge with a tour in a matter of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Everybody should be confused. No one really knows what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Consider how PGA Tour players must feel about this news.

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Speaker 2: Imagine how you know Tiger Woods feels about it, or

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Speaker 2: Roy McElroy, or how about many of the players who

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Speaker 2: actually turned down very lucrative offers from the LIV This

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Speaker 2: is interesting because now they've got last year's Master Champ

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Speaker 2: of the number three ranked player to go along with

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Speaker 2: the Phil Mickelsons and the Brooks Kopkas. It's a bit

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Speaker 2: of a mess. Something to watch. This was rumored for weeks.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if it would actually happen, but guess

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Speaker 2: what it did. And this is again something something to watch.

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Speaker 2: Something also to watch would be the playoffs here coming

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Speaker 2: up December thirty. First, it'll be what three weeks from

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Speaker 2: well check that New Year's Day are the semi finals,

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Speaker 2: which would be three weeks from Monday. I want to say,

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Speaker 2: and I know people have lost their minds. They've lost

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Speaker 2: their minds because it's an emotional situation. Florida State. They

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Speaker 2: went thirteen to zero, they run a Power five conference.

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Speaker 2: They earned the right to be there. Yeah, who's arguing that, well,

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Speaker 2: Robert Griffin is. No one's arguing that they're in the right.

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Speaker 2: No one's arguing they may have been deserving. But if

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Speaker 2: you take a minute to read the protocol, Robert, you

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Speaker 2: can take a minute to read the bi looss. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't reference most deserving team. It says best team, and

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Speaker 2: how does the committee determine who the best team is. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna share that with you, and we have an

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Speaker 2: interesting argument which.

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Speaker 1: Won't be settled.

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Speaker 2: However, I would say this, if you want to you,

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Speaker 2: if you want to shut everybody up, Florida State, go

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Speaker 2: out and beat Georgia. You're currently in fourteen and a

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Speaker 2: half point underdog. And I realize Georgia has a beef too,

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Speaker 2: but they weren't a conference champion. And the truth of

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Speaker 2: the matter is being a conference champion matters. But there's

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Speaker 2: a fundamental flaw that screws this whole thing up, and

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Speaker 2: I'll share it with you.

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Speaker 1: Keple Locks.

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Speaker 2: this now. This topic will not die. It has had

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Speaker 2: legs all week long, and it's become highly charged, and

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Speaker 2: it's fallen into the category of personal feelings versus objective truths.

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Speaker 2: And that was never more on display than on the

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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. I think it was Thursday morning when

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Speaker 2: Robert Griffin joined as a guest. There was one particular

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Speaker 2: part of the exchange that really caught my eye. Let's

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Speaker 2: give it a listen that.

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Speaker 8: The committee certainly got it wrong and sent the wrong

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Speaker 8: message to all the fans, coaches, and everyone out there

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Speaker 8: that follows the sport.

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Speaker 9: Well, okay, is Flourida State better than Georgia? According to

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Speaker 9: the committee they are. Do you think Florida State is

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Speaker 9: better than Georgia?

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Speaker 8: The real question is did Florida State earn a right

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Speaker 8: to play in the college football Playoff?

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Speaker 1: And yes they did, that's the question.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that's open to interpretation because we assume

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Speaker 9: you go undefeated, that means you get to play.

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Speaker 1: It's it's open to interpretation.

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Speaker 2: It's the human element.

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Speaker 9: Yes it is, Yes, because Florida State's not in the

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Speaker 9: final four, so it's opened.

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Speaker 1: It was that's why they're not in the committee.

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Speaker 8: And I watched the show yesterday and heard you talk

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Speaker 8: to Booger, so I know how you feel about this,

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Speaker 8: and you feel like it's all about the money. It is, yeah,

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Speaker 8: But the question for me is the college What is

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Speaker 8: the college football Playoffs committees selection committee?

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Speaker 2: What is their job?

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Speaker 1: Their job is to put the four best teams in correct?

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Speaker 1: It should be.

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Speaker 2: All right? So Dan Patrick was maintaining objectivity. Robert Griffin

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Speaker 2: was not. It's okay. He has a right to his opinion. However,

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Speaker 2: when he cuts Dan Patrick off mid sentence for Times

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Speaker 2: and he says it's not subject to interpret to interpretation,

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Speaker 2: what the hell are you talking about? Do you see?

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Speaker 2: This has? This whole system has a fundamental flaw because

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Speaker 2: every single year a conference champion has left out because

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Speaker 2: there are five power conferences and yet there are only

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Speaker 2: four spots. Now, you can look at my Twitter timeline

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Speaker 2: last Saturday night, three hours before I signed on my show,

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Speaker 2: and not only had the right four teams, I had

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Speaker 2: them in the right order. And why did I do that?

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Speaker 2: Because I took a minute, like a lawyer, which I

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Speaker 2: don't think Robert Griffin did to read the protocol. See

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Speaker 2: committee protocol doesn't reference most deserving teams. Nowhere where you

823
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Speaker 2: find that verbage is Florida deserving? Damn right they are.

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Speaker 2: What do you expect them to do? That beat everybody?

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Speaker 2: He says best teams and hold that thought. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: come back to it. Nowhere does it say undefeated teams

827
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: read it, don't take my word for it, or does

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Speaker 2: it say most deserving teams are Undefeated teams are part

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Speaker 2: of the criteria. It does say head to head in

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Speaker 2: conference championships, those matter. But again there in lives to

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Speaker 2: fundamental flaw. Every single year a conference champion is left

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Speaker 2: out because there's only four spots and there's five power conferences.

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Speaker 2: Now let's look at some facts. They may be inconvenient

834
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Speaker 2: for Robert Griffin, but these are facts acknowledging that it

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Speaker 2: is a significant bummer that Florida State, with everything they

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Speaker 2: did and the perfect world, could have been part of

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Speaker 2: a playoff format where they have gotten a chance to compete.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the things the committee did. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, this is not a playoff. This is

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Speaker 2: not a playoff. It's a made for TV invitational tournament.

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Speaker 2: I've said that for nine years and it's never been

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Speaker 2: more so evident as now. It is about TV and

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00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: it is about the money. If you're just waking up

844
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Speaker 2: to that, you haven't been paying attention, or you make

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Speaker 2: your I got your own agenda. By the way, Texas's

846
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: strength is EAGEC was eleventh, Florida States was sixty third.

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Speaker 2: The minute Alabama beat Georgia, Alabama was the SEC Conference champ.

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Speaker 2: You think they're gonna leave the SEC Conference champ out

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Speaker 2: when they've won five with the last sixianships and fourteen

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Speaker 2: to the last twenty, and it's been spread out over

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Speaker 2: five teams in one conference, Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, Florida, LSU.

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00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: You think they're gonna leave the SEC out. No, they're

853
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Speaker 2: not for multiple reasons. And the minute Alabama was in,

854
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Speaker 2: how the hell you gonna leave out Texas. They're not

855
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Speaker 2: only a conference champ. Yes, they're a one loss conference

856
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Speaker 2: champ in the Big twelve, one of the best conferences

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Speaker 2: in the country. But they beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa by ten.

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Speaker 2: No one even will go down to Tuscalousa to play

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Speaker 2: Alabama non conference unless you're a small school for a payoff.

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Speaker 2: Texas did it and it defined their season, and we

861
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: may be headed toward to Texas Alabama rematch for all

862
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: I know. Now, let's go back to best teams. How

863
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: does it turn the how do they determine best teams? Well,

864
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: one of the clauses that the committee invoked was if

865
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: they elected to they could they could reference the unavailability

866
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: of key players that could affect the outcome of the

867
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: game and affect performance. Gee, do you think Florida State's

868
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: gonna miss Jordan Travis? So the committee basically admitted it.

869
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: We love you Florida State, but with not Jordan Travis there,

870
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: we don't think you're one of the best four teams. Now,

871
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: you can curse the darkness or light a candle. Go

872
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: beat Georgia. Beat them, you're a fourteen point underdog. Beat them.

873
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: That will reopen this conversation. But in the meantime, I

874
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 2: don't know other than people outside of Florida State that

875
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: are complaining about Alabama, Texas, Michigan, and Washington. Okay, you

876
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: got two undefeated conference champions, and I think who's really

877
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: gonna argue with me that of the five Power Conferences

878
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: if you would have ranked them one through five. I

879
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: don't know anybody that wouldn't rank the ACC fifth. With

880
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: all due respect, they're still fifth, all right now. Jordan

881
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: Travis was spectacular this year. And I get it that

882
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: football is played in three phases, and I get it

883
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: or that Florida State won three games without Jordan Travis.

884
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: But what if I told you there was a major

885
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: difference with Jordan Travis on the field versus Jordan Travis

886
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: not on the field. With Travis, Florida State averaged almost

887
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: forty one points a game without him, They averaged twenty

888
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: points a game.

889
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: With Jordan Travis.

890
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: Florida State unmashed four hundred and fifty two yards of

891
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: offense per game on average without Travis two hundred and

892
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: twenty one yards per game. With Jordan Travis on the field,

893
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 2: Florida State's third down percentage conversion was forty one percent

894
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: without him twenty percent. Massive drop off. This is not

895
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: my decree. This is the Committee's decree based on their protocol,

896
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: and if you take a minute to read it, it

897
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with deserving teams or they earned it,

898
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: or they were undefeated, or what's fair you want fair.

899
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: That's what you pay your cabby when you get to

900
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: your destination. Look, this sucks because the whole system sucks.

901
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: The twelve team playoff cannot get here soon enough, cannot

902
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: because Florida State would have a chance to decide this

903
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: on the field. It bothered me, how at least for

904
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: the first part of the interview. You know, he went

905
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: on to make a lot of good observations about other

906
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: things in college football and even in the NFL, But

907
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: the first part he kept interrupting Dan Packard in like

908
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: it because it was his own personal feelings that he

909
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: was upset about. Damn it, Florida State deserves to be there,

910
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 2: you know, they have, they do. Are they better than Georgia? No,

911
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: but that's not the real question. No, that's not the

912
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: real question. That's your question that you want to be

913
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: asked because you want to get your point across, as

914
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: opposed to answering Dan's question. We get it. You think

915
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: Florida State earned it. They did, but according to the

916
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: committee protocol, it doesn't make provisions for that. You don't

917
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: like it changing system, Well, they are changing the system.

918
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, I get that Florida State

919
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: beat LSU. That was a damn good game early in

920
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: the year. Guess what. Alabama also beat LSU. Florida State

921
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: would be a significant underdog to any of these teams

922
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: even with Jordan Travis. Without him, the committee just said, look,

923
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure we won another two thousand and

924
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: nine Texas when Colt McCoy went down and Alabama smoked

925
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: him and no one watched the game. Brock Purty goes

926
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: down first series. Last year, people turned the game off.

927
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: Philly smashed San Francisco TCU as good as they were,

928
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: got smoked by Georgia. Committee doesn't want that. It's a

929
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: made for TV invitational tournament. That's what it is, more

930
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: than an actual playoff itself. So as you look at

931
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: this objectively versus your personal feelings, just acknowledge that the committee,

932
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: buy their own protocol, actually ended up selecting.

933
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: The best teams. Although you could argue Georgia is.

934
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: One of the best four teams, I get it. You

935
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: could argue that Ohio State's one of the best four teams,

936
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: except guess what, Neither one won their conference championship, and

937
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: the Committee, in their protocol says, if you want to

938
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: be if you want to be characterized as one of

939
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: the best teams. It starts by one of year conference championship,

940
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: and Washington did, Alabama did, and Texas did, Georgia did not.

941
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: Ohio State did not. So you might say they're better.

942
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: They might be better, but not according to the committee's protocol,

943
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 2: or they're bylaws and they're the only one that matters.

944
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: By the way, real quickly, Too bad they can't have

945
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: the twelve team playoff this year because it would looked

946
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: like this. Liberty would open up at Florida State on

947
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: their campus and the winner would advance to play Alabama

948
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: and with Tate Roddemaker, they beat Liberty. Now, by the way,

949
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: Liberty is also undefeated. Did they deserve it? Okay, Well,

950
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: you see there's people are going to argue six ways

951
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: from Tuesday. Remember the Scott Frost Central Florida argument four

952
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: years ago. Missouri would be in as a number nine. See,

953
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: they would visit Oregon, the winner would advance to play Michigan.

954
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: Ole miss would have made it.

955
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: They would be at Georgia, the winner would advance to

956
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: play Texas, and finally, Penn State would visit Ohio State

957
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 2: and the winner would advance to play number two Washington,

958
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: even Oklahoma didn't make the field.

959
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: This isn't so easy. You still want to way in

960
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: eight seven, seven, nine nine Fox.

961
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 2: If you don't, that's fine.

962
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: When coming up, we're gonna bring in the crew.

963
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna dive into this a little bit

964
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: further and have a back and forth in the pros

965
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 2: and cons because the truth of the matter is, at

966
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: of there is a lot of fallout. Ten ten years

967
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: after this thing started, we'll start in twenty fourteen. The

968
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: chaos has not only remained where people argue and there's

969
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: always someone pissed off, but it's reached a new level.

970
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 2: It's reached an unprecedented level. Frankly, because no one thought

971
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 2: you would ever leave out an undefeated conference champion team

972
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: in a Power five conference. Why did it happen? Because

973
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: they don't make a provision for undefeated teams in the bylaws,

974
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: and the committee elected to invoke one of their own clauses,

975
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: and that is taking into consideration the unavailability of key

976
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: players that can affect an outcome of the game or performance.

977
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: Hashtag Jordan Travis, I don't like it, you don't like it.

978
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: Not a hell of a lot we can do until

979
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990
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, coming to live at the Tirack dot

991
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Speaker 2: Com studios. Here in Las Vegas. College football playoff Florida

992
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 2: State is out. There is anger, there is resentment, there

993
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: is fall out. I made my case, I backed it

994
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: up with relevant specifics and cojing information, not personal feelings.

995
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: Let's see what the folks have to say. It's go

996
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: out to the phones. Are joined by John from Kansas. John,

997
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on this issue?

998
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 10: So I do feel as a Kansas City, Missouri guy,

999
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 10: I love the SEC.

1000
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: But this was their year.

1001
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 10: Alabama lost. Georgia lost, like, Texas went and did something

1002
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 10: that no other team was willing to do to go

1003
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 10: play Alabama at home, right, they went and beat them

1004
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 10: if Texas, If I'm not mistaken, Texas's one loss was

1005
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 10: to number six ranks Oklahoma at the time, correct now,

1006
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,479
Speaker 10: I truly feel if.

1007
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 11: They wouldn't have lost that game, Florida State would be

1008
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 11: in it and there'd be no other way there would

1009
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 11: be four undefeated teams.

1010
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: Okay, hold that thought, stand the line. Hold that thought,

1011
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: because I also believe that had Georgia one Florida State

1012
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 2: would have been in they would have taken four undefeated teams.

1013
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: But keep in mind with Alabama, you've not only got

1014
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: a one loss SEC champion team, they beat an undefeated

1015
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: Georgia team. You got the last word.

1016
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 10: So I do feel it like this was the one

1017
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 10: year that they could have easily. I mean, being an

1018
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 10: SEC homer Kansas City.

1019
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 11: I've loved the SEC ever since Missouri switched over or

1020
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 11: not the best, but this would have been the year

1021
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 11: to keep an SEC team out of it. Next year,

1022
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 11: when it goes to twelve teams, there's never going to.

1023
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 10: Be SEC teamed out of it ever again.

1024
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: All right, John, think I appreciate you checking in, Man,

1025
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: I got to get to a lot of people here,

1026
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: and don't be a stranger. We're gonna probably start doing

1027
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: this every Friday night at midnight, Chase, We're gonna work

1028
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 2: something out. I want to get to people involved midnight,

1029
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: our Friday night. I'm not sure why there's a sentiment

1030
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: that we need to leave the SEC out. They put

1031
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: butts in seats. They've won five in the last six championships,

1032
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: fourteen to the last twenty. They're more interesting. They are

1033
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: because people either love them or love to hate a

1034
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: root against them. But that's I'm glad to hear an

1035
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: alternative opinion. I appreciate your call.

1036
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 3: John.

1037
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: Mike from millanois you're up next? What are your thoughts,

1038
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: Mikey there.

1039
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 12: I don't have a dog in the fight, so I'm

1040
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 12: pretty neutral as far as you know who. I don't

1041
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 12: care who's in who's out. But here, here's here's my argument,

1042
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 12: and what I don't hear anybody talking about is this

1043
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 12: football is supposed to be a game made up of

1044
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 12: three phases.

1045
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: Now you said, I use that exact phraseology in my monologue.

1046
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: But go ahead.

1047
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 12: Okay, Well you just said coming out of break that

1048
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 12: you made the argument and you gave up the relevant statistics.

1049
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: That's right.

1050
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 12: All I heard you ramble on about was offense. If

1051
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 12: I'm not mistaken, no, no, no, no, no, say Florida

1052
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 12: State in their last two games.

1053
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta stop you. I gotta stop you. Hold

1054
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: on there, fella, you're gonna have I'll keep you online.

1055
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: You selectively heard me say that Florida States drop off

1056
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: without Jordan Travis was dramatic. What I did say was

1057
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: that there are other criteria that take into a factor,

1058
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: including undefeated teams. Not a thing. I'll tell you what

1059
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: you have the last word. I got too many callers

1060
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: to get to. Okay, but but I don't want to

1061
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: be misquoted. I'm not going to allow that.

1062
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 12: What I'm not hearing anybody say is that Florida State

1063
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 12: defense matters.

1064
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 5: You give up.

1065
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 12: Negative thirty one yards in the fourth quarter to your

1066
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 12: last two opponents.

1067
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 5: You hold your.

1068
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 12: ACC Conference championship game opponent three for twenty one on

1069
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 12: third and four downs, and that reason doesn't matter, No, no.

1070
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: It matters. You make an excellent point, So go out

1071
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: and do that against George and the bowl game, and

1072
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: then we got a conversation, and Mike, I want to

1073
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: hear from you again because you had a strong take,

1074
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: and I think it's it speaks to it partially speaks

1075
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 2: to the overall thing. But I think you're selectively making

1076
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: your case with one facet of the argument, why somewhat

1077
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: neatly ignoring the protocol that the committee used. You're not

1078
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: wrong in your assessment, but remember I said at the top,

1079
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 2: the stinks because you've only got four teams that didn't

1080
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: get it get in, and you've got five power conferences.

1081
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 2: Let's go to a gentleman. You hear him Saturday Nights

1082
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: with VJ. Martin Weiss. Martin, what what the hell are

1083
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: you doing up so late?

1084
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: Man?

1085
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 13: You know what, Bernie, I just got in from a

1086
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 13: nice dinner out, and you know what, I turned on

1087
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 13: my I turned on the XM stream on my phone,

1088
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 13: and I heard you making a great point about the

1089
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 13: college football playoff, right, and how everybody gets left off,

1090
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 13: and how it's all really for TV ratings, right, It's

1091
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 13: all about the ratings.

1092
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 5: So that's the reason why, as much as it sucks,

1093
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 5: why Florida State is out right now, because let's be honest,

1094
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 5: nobody wants to seek rodermakers. But the thing that drives

1095
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 5: me nothing, and I feel like it's one of the

1096
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 5: things that nobody talked about college football. The eighteen playoff

1097
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 5: was right there, like why are we going to twelve?

1098
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: And who voted against it? The Chagan and guess who

1099
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: voted against it?

1100
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: The ACC.

1101
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: I mean, the idea of Bernie that we could have

1102
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 5: had a situation in which the five teams that win

1103
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 5: the Power five conferences and then three at large. It

1104
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 5: was right there. Florida State would be in, Alabama be in,

1105
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 5: Washington would be in Michigan, will be in Texas will

1106
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 5: be in and everybody will be happy. But you know what,

1107
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 5: they don't want us to be happy because they wanted

1108
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 5: to see when it's like when they I mean, I

1109
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 5: was there doing updates on Fox Sports Radio as they

1110
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 5: announced the top four and everybody was sitting there toes cross,

1111
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 5: fingers crossed who's getting in at four? And it's just

1112
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 5: the ultimate like it's all for ratings, but it's also

1113
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 5: all for like the ratings between weeks like seven and eleven,

1114
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 5: when the whole thing is settled and they're like, well,

1115
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 5: who's the number one team, who's the number two team,

1116
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 5: who's the number three team? And it makes me sick, Bernie, honestly,

1117
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 5: because we're gonna lose a lot of the fabric of

1118
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 5: what college football used to mean, right, because the thing

1119
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 5: I feel like everyone is missing here is like, winning

1120
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 5: the national championship is awesome, But Michigan, for example, the

1121
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 5: number two team in the nation currently undefeated, has done

1122
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 5: that exactly once in my lifetime, won a national title.

1123
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 5: You know what people in Michigan care about winning ten

1124
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 5: games and beating Ohio State. You know what people at

1125
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 5: oklahom gonna care about winning ten games beating Oklahoma State.

1126
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 5: And it's like we're losing the.

1127
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: Fast yes sport mean.

1128
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 5: And it's because you don't just doo the conference champion

1129
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 5: automatically get the chance to play for the nation champions

1130
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 5: to Berney was right there.

1131
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: Martin Hortless thought, because you're always welcome. I got to

1132
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: get to on a caller here, But you bring up

1133
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: a great points, Martin Weiss catch on Saturday Nights five

1134
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: to eight with VJ. Husky. You do a great job.

1135
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: Thanks for checking in, Martin Listen. I went to nine

1136
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: straight Rulls Bulls between seventy five and eighty four. You

1137
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: talk about tradition. I know exactly where you're going with that,

1138
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: big fella, and it's a bitter pill to swallow, but

1139
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: you know I I they call it progress. We used

1140
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: to fight wars with a single shot rifle. Everything is

1141
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: changing and striven by money and TV. Good stuff, Martin.

1142
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dave and Phoenix. Dave, what do you

1143
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: got for us tonight?

1144
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 3: Hi?

1145
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 14: Bernie, Well, you and I remember fifty years ago when

1146
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 14: the athletic director is voted to send Ohio State nineteen.

1147
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: Seventy three, I bowl. I'm bitterly disappointed, Yes, go ahead.

1148
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 14: That was because Dennis Franklin got injured, and I didn't

1149
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 14: think that was a good reason to not send the

1150
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 14: more deserving team. And I think the same thing happened

1151
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 14: here to Florida State. But the main thing I want

1152
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 14: to point out is that for the committee to talk

1153
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 14: about how bad that third string quarterback was against Louisville,

1154
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 14: it's the most ridiculous thing ever because he's not going

1155
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 14: to play in the ball game. Radamaker's going to easily

1156
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 14: be back by then, so that guy's bad performance should

1157
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 14: not be considered maker.

1158
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't know that they talked about

1159
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: it as much as you're implying. I think what they

1160
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: were basically saying is without Jordan Travis on the field,

1161
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: they don't believe Florida State would have gone thirteen to zero,

1162
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: and they didn't want to see Florida's stake get waxed

1163
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: because you really don't know what you're going to get

1164
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: with Tate Rodemaker. But continue on.

1165
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 14: Okay, Well, one of the previous guys made a great

1166
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 14: point that needs to be re emphasize. If Georgia had

1167
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 14: won and you had four unbeatens, they would have taken

1168
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 14: Florida State for Texas. So basically Texas got carried in

1169
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 14: by Alabama and Florida State got knocked out because Alabama

1170
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 14: won that game.

1171
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: That's right. I agree with that. If Georgia had won.

1172
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 14: That's fair. Also, I grant you the SEC has been dominant,

1173
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 14: thirteen titles in the last seventeen years. They've done fantastic,

1174
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 14: But we're talking.

1175
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: About this year. Okay, hold that sid, hold that thought.

1176
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: Do you think Florida State's going to be Georgia? Do

1177
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: you think she's going to be Bama.

1178
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: I do on in either case, I'm not sure.

1179
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 14: We'll have to find out. But remember Alabama just the

1180
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 14: week before they beat Georgia. They were extremely lucky to

1181
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 14: beat Auburn.

1182
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: They were lucky also to be there, but they won.

1183
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: They won. Let's not do that. Let's not do that.

1184
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: You're better than that. You're better than that. Dave, you're

1185
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: paying them a backhanded compliment because they didn't blow them

1186
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: out what you might have expected him to do. That's

1187
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: the Iron Bowl. Either it happened. Guess what you got

1188
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: to steal one or two. It's survive in advance. You

1189
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: got about ten seconds, you got the last word, big film.

1190
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 14: Well, okay, but the same thing that is being used

1191
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 14: against Florida State that they didn't blow out.

1192
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: No, it's not being used. It's not being used by

1193
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: the committee. The committee is using the fact that they

1194
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: have a player that's unavailable that would have a material

1195
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: impact on the game.

1196
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: That's the only thing.

1197
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: If Jordan Travis plays Florida State's in we're not having

1198
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: this conversation.

1199
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 14: Well that may be true, but they got left out

1200
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 14: in favor of not one but two teams with a loss,

1201
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 14: neither of whom in my opinion has such an imposing

1202
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 14: resume that they have to be put in over an

1203
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 14: undefeated Power five champion.

1204
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: Well, they've all.

1205
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: Your thoughts are always your comments are always thoughtful. But

1206
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: I think what we have to do here is and

1207
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: thanks for checking in, is again I open this up

1208
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: either our personal feelings and objective truths. The only objective

1209
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: truth is the committee protocol and they stayed true to

1210
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: it whether we like it or not. We're going to

1211
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: continue this discussion. We'll keep the phone lines open, and

1212
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 2: I want to have Kevin and Shay way on on this,

1213
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: but first let's go to our guy figures with the latest.

1214
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: All right, Bernie.

1215
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 7: And In the NBA Friday night, the Clippers won their

1216
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 7: third consecutive game. They defeated Utah one seventeen to one

1217
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 7: oh three, Kawhi Leonard scoring a game high forty one points.

1218
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 7: There de Aaron Fox thirty four points. He scored twenty

1219
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 7: three of them in the fourth quarter as the Kings

1220
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 7: beat Phoenix one fourteen to one oh six, and no

1221
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 7: Kevin Durant or Bradley Beal there for the Suns. First

1222
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 7: rode victory of the season. For the Rockets, they pick

1223
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 7: up a one to fourteen to one oh six win

1224
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 7: in Denver, who has lost three in a row, sixteen

1225
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 7: consecutive losses for San Antonio as they fail to Chicago

1226
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 7: won twenty one to one twelve nineteen straight losses for Detroit,

1227
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 7: they lost to Orlando. You had victories for the Celtics, Timberwolves,

1228
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 7: Thunder and seventy six Ers. LSU quarterback Jaye Daniels won

1229
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 7: AP Player of the Year, the Davey O'Brien Award, and

1230
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 7: the Chuck mcneerick Awards on Friday. He's also the odds

1231
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 7: on favorite to win the Heisman Trophy that will be

1232
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 7: awarded tonight at eight Eastern. In NFL news, Jaguars quarterback

1233
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence is questionable to play against Cleveland on Sunday

1234
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 7: after suffering that ankle sprint on Monday night.

1235
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: Back to Bernie Friddle.

1236
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: That pulls me away, Kevin, after seeing him go down

1237
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: and smash his oven on the field. I thought he

1238
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: was going for the next month. But that's a conversation

1239
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: for a different deal. Let's keep it right here, Kevin.

1240
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on the final four selection.

1241
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1242
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 7: Look, I certainly understand the frustration and the anger from

1243
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 7: the Florida state side, because if you put yourself in

1244
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 7: the shoes of a player, it's like, I'm a player

1245
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 7: for a Power five conference champion that didn't lose a game.

1246
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 7: How am I not competing for a championship? I understand it.

1247
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 7: But Martin Wise brought this up. You brought this up.

1248
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 7: It's a made for TV event, and you're trying to

1249
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 7: get as many eyeballs as possible and want as many

1250
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 7: compelling matchups as possible, which, by the way, for the

1251
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 7: life of this playoff, and I don't have the exact

1252
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 7: stat or number in front of me, Bernie, maybe you do.

1253
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 7: The great majority of these games have been blowout, regardless

1254
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 7: of who's made it in, and that was a big

1255
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 7: issue for the playoff when it first started. Whoever I

1256
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 7: made it in the the semi final and the final

1257
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 7: had always been blowout. So they're trying their best to

1258
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 7: put on the most compelling matchup and not having Jordan

1259
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 7: Travis in the game just would not be a competitive

1260
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 7: matchup against Georgia or really anybody else. Well, so look,

1261
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 7: do we actually empirically know that No, Because there was

1262
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 7: a lot of people this time last year who said,

1263
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 7: TCU has no I had no reason being on the field,

1264
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 7: then Michigan's going to blow him out and that didn't happen.

1265
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 7: TCU won before losing convincingly the Georgia in the National

1266
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 7: Championship game. But I'm with you as far as the

1267
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 7: committee did what their job was supposed to do and

1268
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 7: what stated clearly in their criteria, you know, went to

1269
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 7: picking a team or ranking teams. Who is available to

1270
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 7: play does matter and if the most important player, the

1271
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 7: most impactful player at the most impactful position on the field,

1272
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 7: is not available to play, you have to take that

1273
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 7: into account. So I understand the frustration of Florida State.

1274
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 7: If I was a Florida State person or alumni, i'd

1275
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 7: be angry too, But as an objective observer, I one

1276
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 7: hundred percent understand and agree with the playoff committee decided on.

1277
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: And that is the only reason that Florida State is

1278
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: not in. And if they want to make a case,

1279
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: go beat Georgia. End of story. And it isn't made

1280
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: for TV invitational event. It's it's been that way every year,

1281
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 2: not just this year. This is the one year they

1282
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: had three undefeated teams. The Committee's never never had that

1283
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: it has always been subjective, but it's always been up

1284
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: to interpretation. But the reality of it is that we

1285
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 2: look at it here in Florida State, even with Jordan Travis,

1286
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: would be an underdog to not only the four teams

1287
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: that are in, they'd be an underdog to Georgia, and

1288
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: they'd be an underdogg to a house state and a

1289
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: neutral and you know, based on power rating and Florida

1290
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: State had a great year and they earned it. Unfortunately,

1291
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: it's not spilled out and the bierlines eight seven, seven,

1292
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: nine to nine nine. Fox, if you still want to

1293
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: squeeze in, Shay, let's get your thoughts on this. Yeah,

1294
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: I mean I agree with you.

1295
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: You just said it there like we have to look

1296
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: at the reality.

1297
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 15: And the reality is is FSU wasn't FSU after they

1298
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 15: lost their quarterback. And yeah, I get it. They went undefeated,

1299
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 15: they were able to win games without him, but they

1300
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 15: did not look like the FSU. They looked like way before,

1301
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 15: like when they had their quarterback. And the biggest thing

1302
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 15: with that is that's what the committee has to take

1303
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 15: an account. It's not just who won the games, it's

1304
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 15: not just who won lost the games. Yeah, Alabama had

1305
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 15: a loss. Yeah they were bad losses, but still it

1306
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 15: doesn't matter. It's in the end, who's the best team

1307
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 15: right now and who's going to basically be what we're

1308
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 15: It's it's like almost they're promoting it, like you can't

1309
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 15: put a bad FSU team that's not fully itself into

1310
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 15: the playoffs because it just it's a bad look just

1311
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 15: for the committee, it's a bad look for everyone. So

1312
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 15: in this scenario, to avoid that bad look, they had

1313
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 15: to do this, And I really agree with them, and

1314
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 15: it sucks as an FSU fan. If I was an FSUSPAN,

1315
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 15: i'd be pissed if ASU went undefeated and agree, get in,

1316
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 15: I would be living, agreed, hitting me in. And we're

1317
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 15: not saying that they shouldn't be living, and we're not

1318
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 15: saying that that that they're they're not a horrible team,

1319
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 15: and we're not saying they're horrible team at all. We're

1320
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 15: just saying that because of the circumstances, they shouldn't be

1321
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 15: a playoff team. And I completely agree with that.

1322
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: Again, the committee has, you know, to the callers said,

1323
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: all I'm talking about is offense. You know, I appreciate callers,

1324
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: I appreciate listeners.

1325
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 3: I do.

1326
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: I do get a little bent when people selectively listen.

1327
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: And I made it very clear that yes, even though

1328
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 2: I did invoke offense where Florida State was not the

1329
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: same with Jordan Travis as you are without Travis, and

1330
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: I mentioned they they play in three phases. I mentioned that,

1331
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: so Florida State's defense has been outstanding. I get that,

1332
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: and Florida State special teams I'm sure are good as well,

1333
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: and they're very well coached, and they deserved to be

1334
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 2: in there irrespective of what happened to Jordan Travis. But

1335
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: the Committee protocol doesn't reference most deserving teams or undefeated teams.

1336
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: They do say that based on the unavailability of a

1337
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,879
Speaker 2: key player, you're a quarterback that can affect the performance

1338
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: of the outcome of the game, they can invoke that clause.

1339
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 2: Here's why the system sucks. There are only four teams

1340
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: out of five Power conferences, and it really bit them

1341
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: this time. It's not my decree, it's the South. It's

1342
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 2: the Committee's decree. And I encourage everybody to watch Georgia

1343
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: and Florida State. You tell me if you think Florida

1344
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: State how they would ac quitted themselves without their star quarterback,

1345
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: go beat Georgia. If they beat Georgia, I will come

1346
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: on the air and say, okay, we need we need

1347
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 2: some kind of referendum, because yes, I get that Florida

1348
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: State deserve to be in there, even though there's no

1349
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: clause in the bylaws that spell that out. But they

1350
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 2: approved they could win with their backup quarterback. Look, Ohio

1351
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: State did it with Cardell Jones in twenty fifteen. But

1352
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: they beat Wisconsin fifty nine to nothing, and Cardell will

1353
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: had won three games as your third string quarterback, and

1354
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: that offense was smoking, and they went on to win

1355
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: the whole damn thing. And the Big Ten is better

1356
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: than the ACC So there were a lot of things

1357
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: stacked up against it. You know, you can argue the

1358
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins is seventy two, were the greatest team of

1359
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: all time, right they went seventeen oh to Oh, well,

1360
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: guess what, they won their last seven games with a

1361
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. Real moral, So it can be done. And

1362
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 2: I get we all get that Tate Rodimaker would have

1363
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,919
Speaker 2: been fined. It's likely he would have cleared concussion protocol

1364
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 2: in the next thirty days. The committee decided not to

1365
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: take a chance But the problem is when it's musical

1366
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: chairs and you've got four spots available and you've got

1367
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: five power conferences, it's stupid. It's not stupid because we

1368
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: all watch it unless they are blowouts made for TV.

1369
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: Invitational tournament is a problem. It's the problem. Now we've

1370
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: got some good matchups here. Do I think Alabama's gonna

1371
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: beat Michigan, yep, I do. I think Michigan's very one dimensional.

1372
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: Alabama's speed in their front seven is going to stifle Michigan.

1373
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: Michigan went they could because they played mistake free football

1374
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: and they don't commit penalties and they don't turn the

1375
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: ball over, so they could give Alabama a wrestling match.

1376
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 2: But look, there's a reason Jim Harball is one and

1377
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 2: six on a neutral field against power five conferences not

1378
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 2: named the Big Ten. He's going two in the playoffs

1379
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: as well. Prove me wrong, don't tell me, show me.

1380
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 2: But Michigan, six of their victories came against offenses that

1381
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: ranked below one hundred. I mean they didn't play a

1382
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: good schedule. I get it. They smoked everybody in Prove

1383
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: me wrong. But it's going to be a great matchup

1384
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: because if Michigan beats Alabama that will validate their week schedule. Meanwhile,

1385
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: a classic matchup between Texas and Washington. Lots of firepower,

1386
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: lots of points. I think that game is going to

1387
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: be closer than people think. I feel like we're headed

1388
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: for a Texas Alabama rematch. Just squeeze in one more call.

1389
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: Lets go to our guy Emmett from Washington. Emmett, give

1390
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: us your thoughts on the playoff.

1391
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 16: Bernie Fratto, how are you doing, my guys?

1392
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 3: Good?

1393
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 16: That's good to hear man. The great show so far.

1394
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 5: Now.

1395
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 16: My thing was like the playoff in particularly Florida State

1396
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 16: is you know, the playoffs, the collage football.

1397
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: They just want to do.

1398
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 17: What's like best scene for TV, Like you say, we're

1399
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 17: saying or saying, it's just it's gonna happen like that.

1400
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 17: I think, yes, they're a talented team, but in terms

1401
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 17: of like this whole like oh, these Flourida State fans,

1402
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 17: I don't know if you heard this, but they were

1403
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 17: like blowing up Nick Saban's phone the other day because

1404
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 17: number got leaked. They're all crazy about Alabama getting then.

1405
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 17: I mean, your quarterbacks just got hurt like two weeks ago.

1406
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 17: He's out for the like out of the playoffs. He

1407
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 17: broke his like badly. So it's just they're not going

1408
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 17: to really do anything to me. I mean, I think

1409
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 17: there's more of a chance that they do something than

1410
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 17: like an NFL team, because in college you have these

1411
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 17: guys who are learning and they could be ready.

1412
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 16: But I just think, you know, the committee did they

1413
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 16: they did their right move and you know, keeping them out.

1414
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,839
Speaker 16: I think Washington Texas.

1415
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 17: I think that's gonna be a high scoring game and

1416
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,839
Speaker 17: I'm really interested to see, you know, if Michael Pennix

1417
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 17: and Kalen Devor can kind of keep up their hot

1418
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 17: streak as a coaching quarterback, you know duo, and you

1419
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 17: know take Washington somewhere, you know, Being a Washington guy,

1420
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 17: I told you this last week.

1421
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 16: I'm not a fan, but you know I support my

1422
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 16: state teams.

1423
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 3: I hope it happens. That's what I'm rooting for, all right.

1424
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate you checking in them, like you said that,

1425
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: the committee did what they did based on their bylaws.

1426
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: And I don't know why Florida State would take it

1427
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: out of Alabama. I think Alabama would be Florida State.

1428
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 2: I do, maybe not with Jordan Travis I don't know.

1429
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 2: I still think they'd know they'd be favored. But again,

1430
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: there are two. The world is a complex enough place

1431
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: without convoluting it with a bunch of hypotheticals. Read the

1432
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: damn by loss, Read the protocols. Look at the specific

1433
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: verbiage that the committee has spelled out on, what they

1434
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: determine the best teams are, and what clauses exist where

1435
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: they can invoke an interpretation based on their by loss.

1436
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: If Jordan Travis doesn't get hurt, we're not having this conversation.

1437
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: Is it fair?

1438
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 3: No?

1439
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how many times they have to say it,

1440
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: this is just some stink. Yes, how many times they

1441
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: have to say it. The twelve team playoff can't get

1442
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 2: here soon enough. And if the twelve team playoff was

1443
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: here this year, and it should have been, or even

1444
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: like Martin said, an eight team playoff, which I believe

1445
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: the a SEC voted. Again, somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

1446
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 2: You'd be seeing Liberty play Florida State on their campus

1447
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 2: here coming up in a couple weeks. Oh, by the way,

1448
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: Liberty is undefeated as well. You know what, Georgia people

1449
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: can argue that they got screwed. I don't know that

1450
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: they got screwed because they didn't win. They're not a

1451
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 2: conference champion and they lost. You know, so Florida State

1452
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: had actually a better case than Georgia because they were

1453
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 2: a conference champion. Kevin, you want to weigh.

1454
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 3: In on this.

1455
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you mentioned about the twelve team playoff, it

1456
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 7: would have been here this year. I don't know if

1457
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 7: you remember this. A couple of years ago, there was

1458
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 7: this three conference alliance between the Big Ten.

1459
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: Remember they announced it, it never took off yet, and it.

1460
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: Never took off.

1461
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 7: In what it did, it delayed the vote for the

1462
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 7: twelve team playoff, which in effect, had they not delayed,

1463
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 7: would have been happening this year and Florida State would

1464
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 7: be in the twelve team playoff. So really, Florida State

1465
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 7: has nobody to blame but their own conference, the ACC

1466
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 7: and Kevin Warren who was no longer with the Big Ten,

1467
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 7: and the back twelve conference to conference which no longer exists.

1468
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 7: So because of that alliance that was a historical quote

1469
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 7: unquote handshake agreement that never went anywhere or did anything.

1470
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 7: That's the reason why we don't have a twelve team

1471
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 7: playoff right now. And Ross Dellen Jervialt, who Sports did

1472
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 7: a great job writing about that earlier this week.

1473
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 1: I remember it well, Kevin.

1474
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: It was one of those things that came out of

1475
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: COVID where they and I about it. You know, I

1476
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: told my joke about the two guys in the forest

1477
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: bus buddies. The bear takes up chase. The guy puts

1478
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: his tennis shoes on and says his friend says, well,

1479
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 2: you think those tennis shoes are going to help you

1480
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: outrun that bear. He says, I don't have to out

1481
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: run the bear.

1482
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: I just have to outrun you.

1483
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: And that's what happened. Every man for himself, the Big

1484
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: ten they're going to get their massive TV contract. They

1485
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: got the team to defect. But good recall, Kevin, good

1486
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: good stuff. And listen, any way you slice it, there

1487
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: are going to be angry people. People are not going

1488
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: to acquiesce. So what I did, I just try to

1489
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: keep it down the middle and be objective. And still

1490
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: some people still misheard me. But that's just the way

1491
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 2: it goes. And that's why we love sports so much.

1492
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: We don't have royalty in this country, and sports inspire emotion,

1493
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 2: and the opposite of love is not hated some difference

1494
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: people care. I appreciate all the calls if you're still listening.

1495
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: Every one of your points were coaching, but you're all

1496
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: going to speak from a place of where you think

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Speaker 2: things should be. And I'm trying to deal with the

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01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: reality of it, whether we like it or not, and

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Speaker 2: I don't like it, but dealing with the reality of

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Speaker 2: if there's the world it is and the world it

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01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 2: ought to be. Coming up. One more aspect of this

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01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: and is financial and want to give Florida State their due.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattick. We're coming to you live from Las Vegas,

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01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Diirec dot Com studios, don't go away

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Speaker 2: and listening to the Bernie Frattles Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie frattle Show, I squeeze

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Speaker 2: in one more caller, Andrew from Bakersfield. You've been very patient.

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01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the playoffs?

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Speaker 18: Okay, So my thought is when you win matters. So

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01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 18: Alabama lost to Texas and Florida State was undefeated and

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01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 18: conference champion. So I think it's obvious. It was obvious

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 18: to everybody that Alabama because then the only good comparison

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01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 18: is Alabama in Texas and Texas beat Alabama, so you

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01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 18: know it's pretty and the best team undefeated does definitely

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01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 18: go into that and there's no way around it.

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate you checking in, buddy, we're short on time.

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01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: You're not wrong. It used to matter when you lost

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01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: the Keys. Just don't lose that second game. You lose

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01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 2: that second game, you're not getting in the playoff. And

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01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 2: you can lose that one game, but if you come

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01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 2: back and win your conference championship, well, the committee takes

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01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: into it, takes into a consideration winning a conference championship,

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01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: and they'd taken the consideration head to head. For instance, Georgia,

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01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: look at the two teams in the field. Georgia's on

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01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: one to get some teams in the field. They lost

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01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: to Alabama. Bama's one and all. They beat other one

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01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: on one. They beat Georgia but lost to Texas. Texas

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: is one and oh they beat Alabama. I know it

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: sounds crazy, but the committee takes those things into consideration.

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01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: Back when they did it all by rankings. If you

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01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: were gonna lose, lose early, but it didn't matter. When

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01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: Florida State lost, they didn't lose, they lost a quarterback.

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01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: The committee said as much. That's the reason they were

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01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 2: left out. And you know, I get that they were deserving,

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01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: but the committee doesn't have bi laws for deserving. Please

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01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 2: people read the bilaws. I appreciate your comments. And it

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01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 2: can matter when you lost. If you lose earlier in

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01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 2: the year, people forget about it. But as long as

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01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: you don't get that second loss, and as long as

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: you win your conference championship and you're a one loss

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01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: conference champion team, you got a very good chance of

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01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 2: getting in. This year was just a weird year. By

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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: the way, I mentioned financial implications. Florida State had a

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01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: potential six million dollars payout to the a SEC had

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01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: they made the playoff That drops now. Coach Norvell had

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01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 2: a nine hundred thousand dollars potential bonus if they won

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01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: the championship, five hundred thousand for making the tournament that

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01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: goes away now. So Florida State's been frustrated with the

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01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: financial arrangement all year. Now it just got worse, and

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01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: I think they're upset that the SEC got in. But look,

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01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 2: don't point fingers, you know what, don't curse the darkness

1552
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: light the candle go beat Georgia. All right, coming up?

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01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 2: Has the NBA N Season Tournament and big been a success? Yes,

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01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 2: keep it locked. The Bernie Fraddle Show, Well, that's right,

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01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 2: you heard the man. The Bernie Fraddle Show keeps rolling

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Speaker 2: right along on Bernie Frattle. We are coming to you

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Speaker 2: what sixteen hours here, the Lakers will teed up here

1563
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas against the Indiana Pacers for the first

1564
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 2: ever NBA Cup Finals. Lakers are four and a half

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01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 2: point favorites. And before we get all subjective, before we

1566
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 2: dig up all the grievances and disapprovals and people had

1567
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 2: in the confusion of this inaugural NBA N Season tournament,

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01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: and before we start to complain about neon red courts

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01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 2: or argue over other alternatives the tiebreakers or point differentials,

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01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: I think we have to state the obvious. The nd

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01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 2: Season Tournament has been an unqualified success. It just simply

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01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: has look at the numbers. Local viewership for group play

1573
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,879
Speaker 2: games was up twenty percent from games played last November.

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01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: This was Adam Silver's vision to get the NBA talked

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01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 2: about in November while they're competing against college football in

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01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: the NFL at everything else, as opposed to wait until

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01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 2: the de facto opening day, which is Christmas Day. Local

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01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 2: viewership for group play games was up twenty percent versus

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01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: games play last November. National games shot up twenty six percent.

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01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: League pass viewership for the seven group play nights increased

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01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: by twenty five percent. These are big numbers. The league's

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01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,799
Speaker 2: average attendance eighteen two hundred and six was the highest

1583
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 2: for November ever, while the NBA's app and social channels well,

1584
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: they had their best first month of the season three

1585
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: point nine billion video views ever. People are paying attention,

1586
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: people are talking about it, people are interested, people have

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01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: caught on. This is exactly what Adam Silver envisioned. By

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01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 2: the way, even players they've admitted they like it. Lebron

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: James noted the competitiveness of the n seasoned tournament games.

1590
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 2: Draymond Green said the games had a Playoff like intensity

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01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 2: and he would know On TNT. Stan Van Gundy. He's

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01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 2: not exactly a company man. Stan speaks his mind said

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01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: quote quote, NBA basketball has never been more fun in

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01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: November and early December. Unquote. Now, before getting the team

1595
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: into the quarter final game against the Lakers, which was

1596
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: played Tuesday night, I believe Lakers won. Frank Vogel, who's

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01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Sun said, quote, whatever they

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01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: thought it was going to do. From an excitement standpoint,

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01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,839
Speaker 2: I would say it's times one hundred. This is exactly

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: what the NBA was looking for. Energy, excitement, O reason

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01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: for the fan base to carry about the first twenty

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01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 2: games of an eighty two game season, especially when you're

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01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 2: competing against college football. This team's march toward, you know,

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01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: qualifying for their conference championships and the NFL, which really

1605
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 2: starts to take shape in November and early December. And

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01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: whether you want to win the NBA Cup or whether

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01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: you want to collect that cheese five hundred thousand, it's

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01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: a lot of cheddar. I don't care how much you make.

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01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: Five hundred thousands, a lot of cheddar that comes with it.

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01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: Players are invested. Consider the passion. Did you happen to

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01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 2: see the Pacers game Monday against Boston Pacers weren't supposed

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01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: to win. They brought it and won. The intensity of

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01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers Suns game, which went down to the last

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01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 2: couple of seconds on Tuesday night. When the league addressed

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01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 2: this end of season lethargy with the Playing Tournament, it's

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01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: effectively opened up four more postseason spots. The first N

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01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: Season Tournament has done the same thing since the beginning

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01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: of it. Remember, everybody was pissed off about the playing tournament.

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01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 2: That's worked. People like it.

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01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to go back to the

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01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: old way.

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01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: There's no question that by every metric, the N Season

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01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: Tournament has worked. And oh, by the way, if you

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01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 2: haven't noticed, and this doesn't surprise me at all, Lebron

1625
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: and the Lakers, Lebron especially, it just held bent on

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01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: competing for this trophy. They dominated the Pelicans. They had

1627
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: the Pelicans down by thirteen and a half and the

1628
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 2: Pelicans is now we just don't want it as bad.

1629
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 2: And the Pacers and their role players they stepped up

1630
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: in a major way to support Tyre's Halliburton. That's gonna

1631
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: be a good matchup. But I frankly can't picture the

1632
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 2: Lakers losing. They have too much experience, as it were.

1633
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 2: Tyre's Halliburton's a hell of a player. He's twenty three

1634
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: years old. Lebron's been there, done that. He wants this.

1635
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,839
Speaker 2: This is like he's playing this like it's the NBA Finals.

1636
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: He wants his name in lights because it's never gonna

1637
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 2: be enough for him. He'll be insecure about it, and

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01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: he'll be give a speech about it. He's the greatest

1639
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: again or something. If they win the if they win

1640
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 2: Saturday Night, and I do expect the Lakers to win

1641
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: Saturday Night, and.

1642
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: You know what they've done right by what?

1643
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 2: By what Adam is over wanted, irrespective of what their

1644
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 2: own agenda was. I mean, Lebron wants this now. By

1645
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 2: the way, the championship said, in case you didn't know, again, Lakers,

1646
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: they play the Pacers here in Vegas. It's a winner

1647
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: take all, five hundred thousand per player. The Pelicans they've

1648
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: got beat I mean, he's got beat what Thursday night

1649
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 2: by forty four and give it up to the Tandiana

1650
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 2: after they beat Boston and they beat Philadelphia and now

1651
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: they beat the Bucks one nineteen. Clearly, Lebron James wants this.

1652
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 2: He has been sensational Against the Pelicans, he looked like

1653
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: he turned the clock back fifteen years scored thirty points

1654
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: in only twenty three minutes. The game was so far

1655
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 2: out of hand. He didn't play a lot in the

1656
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 2: second half, which is good because he's probably rested. He

1657
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 2: only needed twenty three minutes to score thirty points. Right,

1658
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 2: what's another takeaway? Big time shout out to the Pacers

1659
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 2: role players. Tyres Halliburton has really made a name for

1660
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: himself in November in this tournament, and you cannot say

1661
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: he would have gotten the same kind of props without

1662
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: this tournament. I think he's now recognized as a star.

1663
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 2: He dropped twenty seven points, fifteen assists, no turnovers against

1664
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:54,839
Speaker 2: the Bucks, and he kind of riffed on Damian Miller's

1665
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 2: name time for good measure. I guess maybe I don't

1666
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: know if you should have done that, But what the

1667
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: hell this is. They're in the entertainment business, but you

1668
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: also got to give indies role players some love, right.

1669
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: Aaron Nesmith He looked like a bust on Boston when

1670
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: he played for the Celtics, but on Thursday he had

1671
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 2: a big defensive boost off the bench. He was plus sixteen.

1672
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 2: You know differential. TJ McConnell played some of the toughest

1673
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: best eleven minutes possible off the bench. He really bothered Milwaukee,

1674
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 2: pestered them on both sides of the floor of Miles Turner.

1675
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 2: He shrugged off years of trade rumors. He's producing, scoring

1676
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: twenty six points. But obviously Tyrese Halliburton is the leader

1677
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: of the pack, He's the head of the snake. His

1678
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 2: games reached new heights. It was particularly impressive. How how

1679
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 2: you know the Pacers beat the Bucks?

1680
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 3: Right?

1681
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: Milwaukee played a lot of his own defense in the

1682
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and then he's given every team in the

1683
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 2: league issues. So the Bucks said, well, let's try something

1684
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: different because no one's really been able to stop Indy offensively.

1685
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 2: Fascinating to see that this is a team that was

1686
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: still secure in their defensive identity for years. They switched schemes.

1687
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 2: Give Indiana credit, no question, Indiana deserves a lot of credit.

1688
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: The Bucks still have a great record despite their defensive issues,

1689
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 2: and it's pretty clear. We'll talk about this with Mark

1690
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Madinas Saturday night at midnight. There appears to be some

1691
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: growing pains right now between Damian Lillard and Giannis and

1692
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 2: as an offensive combo, they look like they've got a

1693
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: long way to go before finding their stride, and they're

1694
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: gonna have to do it before the postseason because it's

1695
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 2: gonna be tough getting out of the East. And I'll Milwaukee.

1696
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: Their defense is questionable too in high leverage moments and

1697
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to watch that all season. But give

1698
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: it up to Indiana for exposing that right. And what's

1699
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: interesting also, if you've been watching these games, there was

1700
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 2: mingling between T and T and ESPN. They shared their

1701
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: broadcasters for the Thursday semi finals. It led to some

1702
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: pretty cool moments. Shaq was poking fun and Steven A.

1703
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: Smith's hairline, Charles Barkley was congratulating Bob Myers for jumping

1704
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: off the Warriors sink ship in time, and then of

1705
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: course you had Reggie Miller and Doris Burke and Mike

1706
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 2: Breen mad It made the you know, the the N

1707
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 2: season Tournament that much more unique. When have we ever

1708
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,799
Speaker 2: seen that? We haven't, whether it's an All Star weekend

1709
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: or the playoffs. I think, you know, one of the

1710
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 2: byproducts of what's come out of the ND season Tournament

1711
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: has been this broadcast crossover now, I guess it's anybody's

1712
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 2: guests who win Saturday Night. I just don't see the

1713
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 2: Lakers losing. They look like a pit bull with aids.

1714
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 2: They're scary right now. On one hand, Lebron's playing like

1715
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: prime Lebron right now. On the other end, Halliburton looks unstoppable.

1716
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: There's a difference, though Lebron was competing for a championship

1717
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 2: and Halliburton was three years old. This this is gonna matter.

1718
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 2: This is gonna matter. There's nothing like experience when you

1719
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 2: get into crunch time. But I will say this, the

1720
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 2: PACER's pace is difficult to adjust to, and if Anthony

1721
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 2: Davis has one of us patting it off night, it

1722
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: could be interesting. But I'm leaning towards the Lakers because

1723
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: Lebron James looked like he's on a mission, and I

1724
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 2: think Tyrese Halliburton, for all of his notoriety, at this point,

1725
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 2: he's not at that level. If it's a track meet man,

1726
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: that might give Indiana a little bit better of a chance.

1727
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 2: But I still feel like it's the Lakers situation coming up.

1728
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: I want to bring in the crew.

1729
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 2: I want to get their thoughts because none of us

1730
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,799
Speaker 2: last summer were enthusiastic about the s in season tournament.

1731
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 2: We thought it was gimmicky. I wasn't sure how it

1732
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 2: was gonna work. Felt it was a reach or was

1733
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 2: a stretcher. They were copying soccer. But now that we've

1734
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: had an opportunity to really watch it unfolded living color,

1735
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: I started to keep an open mind, but I didn't

1736
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,759
Speaker 2: know it would go for this. Well that's my opinion,

1737
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: but I think my opinion is backed up by a

1738
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 2: lot of people who have really come around to say,

1739
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: wait a minute, the numbers don't lie. I just gave

1740
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 2: you the numbers and the viewership. Everything is up, attendants, everything,

1741
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 2: you name it. And they never had a November. This

1742
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: suc setting and even the players have commented on it.

1743
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 2: So we'll bring in the crew and get their thoughts,

1744
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,720
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Speaker 2: the end season tournament been a success? We're gonna bring

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01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: in the crew in just a second. Couple things to note.

1762
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like a lot when group play averages

1763
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: a million and a half views per game, except when

1764
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 2: it's up twenty six percent over last November. That's what

1765
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 2: the NBA looks at. And oh, by the way, the

1766
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 2: Lakers Pelicans game, the semi final game, that's been the

1767
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 2: most watched regular season game this year they have they

1768
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: had that two point two million viewers, so on a

1769
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 2: relative basis, By the way, attendance averaging eighteen thousand and

1770
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 2: two of six highest for the month of November in

1771
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: the history of the NBA. And then you get you

1772
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 2: know a lot of people on the social channels in

1773
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 2: the app they had their best first month of the

1774
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 2: season three point nine million video views. So there's growth.

1775
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 2: That's the idea that there's growth. Maybe not as people.

1776
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Many people are watching and say, you know, Alabama, Georgia,

1777
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 2: but when you consider what has been watched in the

1778
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 2: past and the NBA and the viewership, the numbers don't

1779
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: appear to lie. These are not my numbers. These are

1780
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 2: research numbers through organizations like Front Office Sports. But the

1781
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 2: numbers are up to man over last in November, so

1782
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: that's what they're reporting. Let's go to the crew get

1783
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 2: your thoughts, Kevin. Is the n season tournament been a

1784
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 2: success in your view?

1785
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 1: It most definitely has.

1786
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 7: And I think what I underestimated was just how motivated

1787
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 7: top players like Lebron James would be usually just dangling

1788
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 7: what would be I guess for them, five hundred thousand

1789
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 7: dollars wouldn't be that much money, but I guess five

1790
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 7: thousand dollars is a lot of money regardless of who

1791
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 7: it is, including Lebron he's played, especially in that semi

1792
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,799
Speaker 7: final the other night, like it was the NBA Finals,

1793
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 7: I mean, twenty three minutes to score thirty points and

1794
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 7: be that dominant over the stretch, especially in that second quarter. Yeah, look,

1795
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,560
Speaker 7: we know that early season NBA is is kind is

1796
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 7: kind of a bore for a lot of people. There's

1797
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 7: a lot of things that it's competing with. And even

1798
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 7: if there is just a small moticum of extra interest

1799
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 7: in the league play in this first couple of months,

1800
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 7: I think it's a win for the NBA, and it

1801
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 7: certainly has been. There's more interest among the players, there's

1802
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 7: more interest in the fans. I mean, you talk about

1803
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 7: that Indiana Boston game, I mean, and that felt like

1804
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 7: a playoff atmosphere the other night in Indiana, So that

1805
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 7: I mean, it definitely has has resulted in what the

1806
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 7: NBA was asking for, which like, it's not gonna be

1807
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 7: earth shattering, but it's definitely going to bring at least

1808
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 7: a little bit of interest to a sport that most

1809
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 7: people don't really pay attention to until at or around

1810
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 7: Christmas Day.

1811
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 1: So I think it has been a success, and to

1812
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: my surprise, to be honest with you.

1813
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what Adam Silver wanted. He knows darn

1814
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 2: well that in most people's minds, the NBA doesn't really

1815
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:31,719
Speaker 2: exist till Christmas Day, and for frankly a lot of people,

1816
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 2: the sad reality is maybe until April when the playoffs start.

1817
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 2: Because it's an eighty two game season, there's load management.

1818
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 2: Players don't play, some teams don't show up every night.

1819
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 2: We all know that that's the old axium how that

1820
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 2: goes all the way back to the Airplane movie forty

1821
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 2: years ago. But the point is is that how do

1822
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 2: they do this year versus past novembers? And that is

1823
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 2: exactly what Adam Silver was looking for. And you're right

1824
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 2: about Lebron. I don't even know, Kevin, if money's the

1825
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 2: most I think Lebron wants another notch on his belt

1826
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 2: if the Lakers win the NBA Cup. Irrespective if people

1827
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 2: try to diminish it or say it's not that big

1828
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,799
Speaker 2: a deal. I think it's a legacy play for Lebron.

1829
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: And I think it's an ego thing. I really, I

1830
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 2: really believe that. That's how I feel your thoughts about that,

1831
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 2: just in terms of this is made for Lebron's ego

1832
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 2: to win this scene because the Lakers are not winning

1833
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: the championship. I'm sorry they're not. They're not beating some

1834
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 2: of these quality teams for four days and seven nights,

1835
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 2: and Indiana's not winning the championship. But the beauty of

1836
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 2: this tournament, it gives hope for the littler guy to

1837
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 2: steal one like March Madness, where it's one and done,

1838
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 2: whereas in the playoffs in April, where you gotta beat

1839
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 2: somebody four times in two weeks, it's not likely. So

1840
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: this gives people a chance who wouldn't win the championship

1841
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: to really get their name in lights at the beginning

1842
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 2: of the season.

1843
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Kevin, Yeah, it, well it's early yet, so

1844
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: I would I would.

1845
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 7: I would challenge a little bit of the Lakers' ability

1846
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 7: to be able to compete for a championship once we

1847
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 7: get into April.

1848
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 2: Or the Olympede. I just don't think they're gonna win one.

1849
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: If they're healthy enough.

1850
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 7: I do think they have the horses, but with the

1851
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 7: trade deadline to potentially compete for a championship, but different

1852
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 7: discussion for a different day. We're a long ways away

1853
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 7: from that. As far as Lebron and the n season tournament.

1854
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 7: He kind of acknowledged it the other night. He said

1855
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 7: he kind of compared it to a Final four March

1856
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 7: Madden this situation, which is obviously not, but he said,

1857
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 7: there's a tournament to play in. I've never played in

1858
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 7: a tournament like this before. I certainly would like to

1859
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,560
Speaker 7: be able to win. So to your point, I do

1860
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 7: think he does see it as a notch in his belt,

1861
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,879
Speaker 7: something that will be able to add to his legacy.

1862
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 7: Whether or not it's hokey. Look today, it might be

1863
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 7: because it's the first one. Twenty years from now, it

1864
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 7: might be a semi big deal, and maybe the stakes

1865
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 7: will be higher and it'll be something that people use.

1866
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 7: As one of the head coaches, I forget exactly who

1867
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 7: it was, it might have been Willie Green. He said,

1868
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 7: this is something that players are going to use to

1869
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 7: put on their resume, if you're talking about potential Hall

1870
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 7: of Fames or contract incentives, whatever you want to call it.

1871
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 7: So in the long run, I do think you're right,

1872
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 7: this can end up meeting a lot and I do

1873
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 7: think it means lots of Lebron James, just based on

1874
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 7: the way he's played and based on what he said

1875
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 7: after they beat the Pelicans the other.

1876
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 2: Night, and if the Lakers can stay healthy and if

1877
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 2: the stars align, maybe they give Denver a battle. But Kevin,

1878
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, I cannot see them getting past

1879
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets if they're even if they're all healthy.

1880
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 2: But look, I I keep an open mind. You know,

1881
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 2: Bob Buker once hit a home run off Sandy Kofax.

1882
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 2: Nothing surprises me, so if they were to do it,

1883
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 2: I will tip my cap. But let's see what the

1884
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 2: let's see what the landscape looks like in April.

1885
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 7: You know, mister Red also hit an inside the park

1886
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 7: home run off for Sandy Kofax too, so you know,

1887
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 7: anything can happen.

1888
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: That part of a mister Ed it was, it absolutely

1889
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: was it.

1890
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 7: I encourage anybody that the hokeiest graphics by all means,

1891
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 7: look it up mister Red and Sandy Kolfax.

1892
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty funny.

1893
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 2: Oh god, I I even love that open Kevin, A

1894
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 2: plus to you for invoking mister Ed. That's that's huge, man,

1895
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 2: that's huge. I had a cheese next Friday night, I

1896
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 2: gotta have shape pull up the mister Ed music hit

1897
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: A classic opening song. You remember that song or so.

1898
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 1: No one could talk to a horse. Of course it

1899
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 1: is less of the horses.

1900
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 2: Damn. The name is mister ed or whatever. Right, good call.

1901
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 2: And Herman Muster hit a home run too. But anyway, well,

1902
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 2: well yeah right, I'll take a Muster. I'll take old

1903
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: TV shows for fifty Alex. Look, the bottom line is

1904
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 2: we're talking about it, Kevin, and you even mentioned a

1905
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 2: couple of things. Coaches are talking about it, players are

1906
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 2: talking about it. D Raymond said it was like a

1907
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 2: playoff atmosphere. He would know Stan van Gundy. Stan is

1908
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 2: not afraid to criticize the NBA. He said, it's never

1909
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 2: been more fun. In November, Frank Vogel said, this is

1910
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 2: a hundred times greater than I thought it would be.

1911
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 2: So you got fans, the numbers are up, even though

1912
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 2: they're not setting records. I acknowledge that they're not huge numbers,

1913
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: but they're up dramatically from what they were in past novembers.

1914
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 2: You got players saying they like it. You've got coaches

1915
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 2: commenting on it, you got broadcasters and by the way,

1916
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 2: did you see that fusion between T and T and

1917
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 2: ESPN and the back and forth they had the other night.

1918
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: Pretty entertaining. Steven A. Smith and Shit going after each other.

1919
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 1: It was good.

1920
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 2: And Charles Barker, it was really good. You gotta love

1921
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 2: sir Charles going right at Bob Myers said you jumped to.

1922
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,719
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just epic stuff so across the board

1923
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 2: and even people made fun of the courts. But I

1924
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 2: kind of get that now too, because if you see

1925
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 2: the court, you know, well, it must be a and

1926
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: then season playoff a tournament game, right.

1927
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the vibe on the court is different.

1928
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 7: Even from the players perspective. They know if the court

1929
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 7: looks different, the play is going to be different. If

1930
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 7: a tournament game didn't look any different than the standard

1931
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 7: regular season game, I do think that might affect the product.

1932
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Speaker 1: So I thought that was genius too.

1933
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 2: I thought that would turned out to be very clever. Shit,

1934
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on this?

1935
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean as a Laker fan, I'm ecstatic. Usually

1936
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 15: as a Laker fan, like, yeah, I'm watching every game,

1937
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 15: but I'll be in my bed. I won't be like

1938
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 15: hanging out with friends. But we've made it a fact

1939
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,719
Speaker 15: or like we made it a thing to get together

1940
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 15: for these games.

1941
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Go to a bar.

1942
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 15: I remember at these bars, like it feels like we're

1943
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 15: watching a tournament, feels like we're watching I'm a Champion game,

1944
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 15: but obviously like a playoff game. It feels like that.

1945
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: And that's the biggest thing with it.

1946
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 15: It's bringing revenue to not only the NBA, but it's

1947
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 15: bringing revenue to the bars. It's making people happy. So

1948
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 15: as a fan, I'm really excited about it, and it's

1949
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 15: one of my like, honestly, I'm it's the first time

1950
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 15: I'm excited in like early December for basketball, and I'm

1951
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 15: usually not excited as I mean, I usually am excited

1952
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 15: as a Laker fan, but it's I feel like for

1953
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 15: other teams like the Pacers, who usually just don't feel

1954
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 15: this excited this early in the year, especially because a

1955
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,640
Speaker 15: lot of teams start hot. But to be able to

1956
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 15: get something like for instance, Tyre's Haliburton, he's going crazy.

1957
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 15: He's an early MVP candidate, like I feel like by far,

1958
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 15: and on top of it, if let's say he does

1959
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 15: win it, it's just another reason for him to get

1960
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 15: MVP and it's another reason for Pacer fans to be happy,

1961
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 15: even though even if they don't win a championship. So

1962
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 15: I think from a fan point of view, it's great.

1963
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 15: From a player point of view as well. Lebron gets

1964
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 15: the fastest I mean in his old age, are you

1965
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 15: kidding me? Like he gets the fastest thirty point game

1966
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 15: in Laker history. There's been a lot of good Lakers

1967
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 15: over the years, so just to show like how hard

1968
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 15: these players are playing, and the no load management.

1969
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: Is just beautiful.

1970
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 15: It's real NBA, and that was the biggest thing, the

1971
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 15: load management, so it takes away from that. The one

1972
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 15: problem I might have with it is when it's all

1973
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 15: said and done, we probably won't see Lebron play like

1974
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 15: very much minutes, and we probably won't see these players

1975
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 15: play very much minutes, and I want to see how

1976
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 15: load management is post this.

1977
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 2: Just you already know, buddy, You already know exactly.

1978
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 15: So, I mean, you guys said it yourself. When the

1979
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 15: Lakers are healthy, they're one of the best teams in

1980
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 15: the league. And after this, I'm sure they won't be

1981
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 15: their healthy selves.

1982
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,560
Speaker 2: So well again, if my ant had ball, she'd be

1983
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 2: my uncle. And we'll see how they hold up over

1984
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 2: eighty two games, and we'll see how much time Lebron

1985
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 2: takes off. They'll make the playoffs, They're going to be

1986
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 2: a very tough out. I give them credit. I just

1987
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 2: I you know, we'll see.

1988
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: Let's just let's stick on point here, because the truth.

1989
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,719
Speaker 2: Of the matter is good stuff, guys, both of you guys.

1990
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 2: This is what the NBA was looking for. Okay. They

1991
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 2: want an entered they got it. They wanted excitement, they

1992
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 2: got it. They wanted a reason for the fan base

1993
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 2: to pay more attention than they have in the pass

1994
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 2: for the first twenty games.

1995
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 3: They got it.

1996
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 2: Turns out for some that five hundred thousand dollars is

1997
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 2: looking pretty good. So we're gonna see real intensity Saturday night.

1998
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 2: Just luck he saw the intensity between the Lakers and

1999
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 2: Suns on Tuesday and Indiana and Boston on Monday. You're

2000
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 2: gonna see it. Would we have seen that in these

2001
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 2: November games with the same matchups. Come on, I think

2002
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 2: you already know the answer. Coming up, we've got Chris

2003
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 2: Perfett's World of Soccer. But first let's go back to

2004
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 2: our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest.

2005
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Speaker 1: All right, and we'll start with some NFL news.

2006
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 7: Seahawks quarterback Gino Smith a game time decision for the

2007
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 7: matchup against San Francisco on Sunday. He suffered a growing

2008
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 7: injury in practice on Thursday. Pete Carroll said, we shall

2009
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 7: see before the game to determine whether or not he'll

2010
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 7: be able to go. She's running back Isaiah, but check

2011
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 7: Osben ruled out of Sunday's matchup against Buffalo with they

2012
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 7: showed her injury. Trevor Lawrence to the Jaguars questionable and

2013
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 7: likely a game time to say as well. They will

2014
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 7: take on Cleveland, but he was continuing to nurse that

2015
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 7: ankle injury that he suffered on Monday Nights. In the NBA,

2016
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 7: the thunder defeated the Warriors in overtime one thirty eight

2017
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 7: to one thirty six behind thirty eight points from Shade

2018
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 7: Gilges Alexander forty one points for Kawhi Leonard, as the

2019
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 7: Clippers beat Utah one seventeen to one oh three. It

2020
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 7: was Dallas one twenty five and Portland won twelve. Devin

2021
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,719
Speaker 7: whit scored thirty points for Boston, leading them over the Knicks.

2022
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 7: Thirty eight points from fourteen boards for Dowel Embiid as

2023
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 7: the seventy six ers defeated Atlanta one twenty five to

2024
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 7: one fourteen.

2025
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 1: You had wins for the Nets, Magic and Timberwolves. Back

2026
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: to Bernie, Freddo.

2027
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 2: Kevin, great stuff, buddy, and thanks to your reference, Shade's

2028
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 2: got a little treat for us.

2029
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 6: Hello, I'm mister Rayed. A horse is a horse, of course,

2030
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 6: of course said no one can talk to you love horse.

2031
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 6: Of course, that is of course, And that's the horse

2032
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 6: is the famous mister.

2033
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: And go right to the source. And as blue horse,

2034
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 1: give the answer that juds he's.

2035
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 10: Always on instead of course talk to mister.

2036
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 2: That is a plus stuff guys both you help yourself

2037
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 2: to some cookies out of pettycash. Just an excellent job,

2038
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: both of you.

2039
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:18,719
Speaker 1: Guys.

2040
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 2: All right, I don't know how we top that, but

2041
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 2: I guess we do. Because it's that time of week.

2042
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 2: It's Chris Pherfett's world of soccer.

2043
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 19: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

2044
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 5: Him.

2045
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the world of soccer.

2046
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 20: There is a lot in the world of soccer, Bernie,

2047
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 20: but we have to make for tonight the MLS the

2048
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 20: center of the world. Saturday, four pm Eastern, the MLS

2049
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 20: Cup Final is here as the Columbus Crew host Los

2050
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 20: Angeles Football Club for a chance to hoist the biggest

2051
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 20: trophy in North America in the world of soccer. It

2052
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 20: is a fascinating year for Major League Soccer. It was

2053
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 20: a transformative year that started with seeing Leonel Messi come Stateside,

2054
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 20: ending his reign in Europe and deciding to come for

2055
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 20: an astronomical amount of money to play for Inter Miami,

2056
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 20: following the path of the team's co owner and president,

2057
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 20: English footballer David Beckham. It was a path that saw

2058
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 20: unprecedented attention given to the North American league, but usually

2059
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 20: in the sense of we were all here watching Leonel Messi,

2060
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 20: and even still now today, I am sure that MLS

2061
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:55,759
Speaker 20: realizes that the Messy shadow cast is upon the MLS

2062
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 20: Cup Final with no Inter Miami in it and no

2063
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 20: chance until next year that they can bring such attention

2064
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 20: to there. But athletics don't always follow nice even given scripts.

2065
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 20: If they were, they would be novels instead. Any team

2066
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 20: placed upon a field has a chance to win. But

2067
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 20: if you're talking about storylines, man, these two teams. Man,

2068
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 20: it's Crew who I had as my dark horse favorite

2069
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 20: to come out of the Eastern Conference in Major League Soccer,

2070
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 20: and it's LAFC A powerhouse that nobody should have doubted

2071
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 20: for a second in the West, the reigning champion trying

2072
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 20: to become the fourth ever MLS team to defend their

2073
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 20: title and become back to back MLS Cup champions. These

2074
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 20: teams have so much story and so much richness to them. LAFC,

2075
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 20: ever since its inception, took over the scene in Los Angeles,

2076
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 20: taking the crown of La Galaxy to become Los Angeles'

2077
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 20: team with passionate fans, golden black style swagger and winning

2078
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 20: ways to them, and they precipitated a fantastic MLS Cup

2079
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 20: last year with a thrilling extra time victory over the

2080
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 20: Philadelphia Union, helped by the leg of the Welsh legendary

2081
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 20: Welsh player Gareth Bale, who retired this year. But nevertheless,

2082
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 20: LAFC continues on. It continues on with names that Angelino

2083
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 20: soccer fans know. Carlos Veya Denny's Bowonga, Ryan hollings Head.

2084
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 20: These are the names of men who have been here

2085
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,639
Speaker 20: with this team and been able to bring them back

2086
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 20: to the mountaintop to do what few teams have done before.

2087
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 20: They are now one of the new Creme de la

2088
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 20: creme of MLS, one of its key franchises. And that's

2089
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 20: to say nothing of the Columbus Crew, one of the

2090
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 20: founding franchises of Major League Soccers, one of the clubs

2091
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 20: that have been here since the beginning that everyone knows

2092
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 20: so well and has gone through so much in the

2093
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 20: past ten years, which started about ten years ago when

2094
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 20: Anthony pre Court became the owner of the Columbus Crew

2095
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 20: and then four years later into his reign, tried to

2096
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 20: move the club to Austin to deprive MLS of one

2097
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 20: of its founding members, to give them a completely new

2098
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 20: name if they wouldn't give him a stadium downtown in Columbus.

2099
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 20: MLS tried to step in and tried to save the

2100
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 20: Columbus Crew. At the same time, a bill that was

2101
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 20: in Ohio which was passed way back in ninety six

2102
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 20: after the Cleveland Browns removed to Baltimore, brought a lawsuit

2103
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 20: that saw Ohio itself their attorney general trying to stop

2104
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 20: the Columbus Crew from being moved.

2105
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 1: Ultimately, Anthony Precurt got his wish.

2106
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 20: He is now the owner of Austin FC, but it

2107
01:47:55,160 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 20: isn't as an expansion franchise. Instead, Jimmy Haslam, the owner

2108
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 20: of the Cleveland Browns they've appeared now twice. In the

2109
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 20: same minute, became the new owner, and in twenty twenty

2110
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 20: the Columbus Crew won an MLS Cup, their second in

2111
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:12,680
Speaker 20: the franchise history since, with the first one coming in

2112
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 20: two thousand and eight. But then in twenty twenty one,

2113
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 20: Jimmy Haslam and ownership for the Columbus Crew wanted to

2114
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,919
Speaker 20: change the name and rename them to Columbus SC, depriving

2115
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 20: of what I believe is an iconic name that stakes

2116
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 20: them as a true North American club, and it tried

2117
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 20: to make them instead into this Patois of Europhilic Bowl

2118
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 20: that every other new club in MLS tries to pattern itself. Thankfully,

2119
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 20: it was defeated, and instead here we are the Columbus Crew,

2120
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,759
Speaker 20: back here to the Mountain, one game away from claiming

2121
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 20: their third MLS Cup. And to get here they had

2122
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,600
Speaker 20: to go through the gauntlet that was the Eastern Conference

2123
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 20: in MLS this year. They had to get past Supporter

2124
01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:00,120
Speaker 20: Shield winner FC Cincinnati, who won the most games and

2125
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 20: the most points in MLS this year.

2126
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:06,600
Speaker 1: And had the league's MVP. They did all of that.

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Speaker 20: They have been victorious through and through and here they

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Speaker 20: are standing at the mountain top, one game away from

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Speaker 20: another MLS Cup. But standing in their way is the

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Speaker 20: defending champion, one who has history that they are going for.

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Speaker 20: It is going to be a fantastic game, Bernie, and

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Speaker 20: it's going to be made all the more fantastic and

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Speaker 20: that Columbus, being the higher points leader here, gets to

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Speaker 20: host the game. We are going to have a soccer

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Speaker 20: final in Columbus in early December, and I like the

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Speaker 20: Columbus crew to win the MLS Cup here.

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Speaker 1: This is a statistical point.

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Speaker 20: MLS Cup home hosts usually win the MLS Cup. The

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Speaker 20: only time a visiting team has come out victorious in

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Speaker 20: a final was in twenty twenty one when the New

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Speaker 20: York City FC defeated the por Cortland Timbers on penalties.

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Speaker 20: And these might not be the top names in the

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Speaker 20: world in this MLS Cup, but look to Cuco Hernandez,

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Speaker 20: look to Diego Rosi, look to the LAFC players. I

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Speaker 20: told you about, Dennys Bowonga and Carlos Vella. These are

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Speaker 20: names and stars of the North American game. And it

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Speaker 20: is a fantastic couple of lineups we have going at

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Speaker 20: at each other. This should be well pitched. I like

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Speaker 20: Columbus Crew by a goal here, Bernie, I'm curious to

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Speaker 20: see who you think is going to take home the

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Speaker 20: MLS Cup.

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Speaker 1: It was a gear up and we'll see you next

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Speaker 1: time on the World of Soccer.

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Speaker 2: Well from MLS to the World Cup. Chris covers it

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Speaker 2: all loved his messy comments and Coucho Hernandez. Now there

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Speaker 2: and I want to read a particular tweet that might

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Speaker 2: provoke your thought. And got a little update for you,

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Speaker 2: brock Purty Heaters. I'm Bernie frattle Wood, come to you

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Speaker 2: live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tirect dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, you're wrapping it

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Speaker 2: up on the Bernie frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come

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Speaker 2: to live from the tirack dot Com studios here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Far go any further.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank my broadcast team, Kevin Figures with

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Speaker 2: all the updates strong comments we had on the playoff

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Speaker 2: and the NBA and season tournament. Shay Logan Guard our

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Speaker 2: executive producer, great job tonight as always, and of course

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Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, our technical producer, turning all the dillas keeping

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Speaker 2: us glued together. A great job, great teamwork as always, Guys,

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Speaker 2: three hours just flew by. I also want to thank

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Speaker 2: the callers. We had some very good callers and Dave

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Speaker 2: who won our contest. I hope you're listening. I pushed

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Speaker 2: back on you, but here's the thing. You crafted an

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Speaker 2: argument that some of these teams didn't win by as

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Speaker 2: good a margin as they should have. Well, how about

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Speaker 2: Florida State barely beaten Boston College thirty won twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: could have easily lost that game. Then they go to

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Speaker 2: four lost Clemson, and Clemson takes him to overtime, and

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Speaker 2: you know, and oh, by the way, they struggle with

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Speaker 2: Miami and you know, November eleventh, but they won them

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Speaker 2: all and so sometimes at the end of the year

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Speaker 2: they don't ask college just how many. And I want

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Speaker 2: to read this one tweet from because Art Puffin is

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Speaker 2: a good listener, and he checks in a lot. He

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Speaker 2: says Alabama lost their chance to a playoff berth losing

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Speaker 2: to Texas. All they did was eliminate their conference by

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Speaker 2: beating Georgia. Okay, that's all they did Georgia twenty nine

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Speaker 2: in a row. Nobody thought Alabama would beat Georgia, but

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Speaker 2: when they did, they became the conference champion. And he says,

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Speaker 2: you got to select an undefeated conference champion over a

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Speaker 2: one loss champion period, you would think, on the face

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Speaker 2: of it, that's what you would do. But if you

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Speaker 2: read the committee by loss, which I've done like nine

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Speaker 2: times now, it makes no provisions for being undefeated. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: they don't care if you're undefeated. How about Liberty, They're undefeated.

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Speaker 2: Central Florida was undefeated few years ago. How about the

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Speaker 2: years Boise State was undefeated. They don't care about undefeated.

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Speaker 2: And Florida State earned it, but they don't care about

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Speaker 2: earning it. They caught a bad break, just like the

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Speaker 2: ball going through Bill Buckner's legs. I could list ten

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Speaker 2: examples of bad breaks, if ifs and butts were candy

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Speaker 2: and nuts. We'd all have a merry Christmas. Florida State

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Speaker 2: got the raw end of the deal because her quarterback

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Speaker 2: got hurt and the committee invoked the clause having to

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Speaker 2: do with the unavailability of players who might go on

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Speaker 2: to affect the outcome of a game. That's it, man,

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Speaker 2: that's it. So no one likes this system. I've never

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Speaker 2: liked it since they won.

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Speaker 1: How could you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, look what we're talking about. Are at undefeated

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Speaker 2: power conference Power five team that won their conference and

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Speaker 2: they're omitted from the playoffs. It's never happened. Why did

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Speaker 2: it happen? Because we had an unusual year. We had

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Speaker 2: two other conference championship teams that were undefeated in Washington

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Speaker 2: and Michigan, both well deserving, and then the minute Alabama

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Speaker 2: beat Georgia, they became the SEC champion. They're not leaving

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Speaker 2: out the SEC champion. They've won five of the last

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Speaker 2: six championships. They've won fourteen to the last twenty five

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Speaker 2: different teams from the SEC have done it. Maybe people

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Speaker 2: are SEC haters. Facts as facts, you'll tune into watch

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Speaker 2: and you'll hope they lose. And the TV networks they're

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Speaker 2: banking on that the opposite of love is not hate,

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Speaker 2: it's indifference, and Alabama would beat Florida State. I believe

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Speaker 2: they would have beaten Florida State even with Jordan Travis.

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Speaker 2: People wi't understand how and Florida State's got a great defense,

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Speaker 2: and I get it. And I said that all football

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Speaker 2: is played in three phases, and someone failed to hear

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Speaker 2: that as well. And I pointed out the dramatic drop

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Speaker 2: off when Jordan Travis is not in the game, and

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Speaker 2: the committee merely exercised their right from the bylaws they

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Speaker 2: had written. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have this

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Speaker 2: stupid four team tournament. The twelve team tournament can't get

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Speaker 2: here fast enough. Here's what it would look like if

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Speaker 2: it was here.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: You would have Florida State hosting Liberty, a twelve versus

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Speaker 2: five matchup. How about that at Florida State. Because the

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Speaker 2: first round of you played in college campuses, the winner

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Speaker 2: would advance to play Alabama. That would answer a lot

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Speaker 2: of arguments with it with Tay Rottemaker, Missouri would play

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Speaker 2: Oregon in Oregon. The winner would advance to play Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Old miss would visit Georgia. They are the eleventh ranked

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Speaker 2: team Georgia's sixth. The winner would advance to play Texas

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Speaker 2: and then ten State. Number ten rank would visit Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: and the winner would advance to play Washington. That cannot

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Speaker 2: get here soon enough, period. People are going to be

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Speaker 2: teeth gnashing on this for the rest of the month

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Speaker 2: and all the way till New Year's Day. But again,

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Speaker 2: mark your calendar for December thirtieth. Georgia will play Florida

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Speaker 2: State at four o'clock, and Florida State has a chance

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Speaker 2: to change the narratives. I promise you if they beat Georgia,

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Speaker 2: you'll hear, you know, a sort of a different vibe

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Speaker 2: coming out of me. Because it's not my decree. It's

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Speaker 2: the decree of the committee whose goal is to pick

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Speaker 2: the four best teams that fit the Made for TV

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Speaker 2: Invitational tournament. This is not a playoff. If it was

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Speaker 2: a real playoff, Florida State would be in there. It's

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Speaker 2: not fundamental flaw. There are five conference champions and four

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Speaker 2: only get in hated. Okay, attention brock Purty hater. He's

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Speaker 2: nine to three, twenty three touchdowns, six interceptions. He's doing

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Speaker 2: for thirty two hundred yards completing seventy one percent of

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Speaker 2: his passes. Now, Dak's talking getting all the MVP love,

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Speaker 2: and maybe he'll get it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But what have they done against winning teams?

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Speaker 2: Dak is zero and two against winning teams brock Purty's

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Speaker 2: four and one Rock Purty averaging nine point one yards

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Speaker 2: per pass Dak seven point eight. This is against winning

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Speaker 2: teams against winning teams brock Purty fourteen and one. The

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Speaker 2: touchdown to interception ratios doing fourteen touchdown passes, one interception,

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott four touchdowns, three interceptions. The passer rating versus

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Speaker 2: winning teams brock Purty one twenty five point seven Dak

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Speaker 2: Prescott eighty eight point three. I'm not trying to be

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Speaker 2: smirched Dak Prescott. He's doing what he always does. He's

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Speaker 2: mister October, he's mister November. But what happens when January

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Speaker 2: or d around. What's going to be the narrative this year?

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Speaker 2: What's going to be the excuse this year? What's gonna

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Speaker 2: be the stupid postgame conference beach this year? Okay, maybe

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Speaker 2: Dallas will surprise all of us. Let's see how they

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Speaker 2: do against Philadelphia Sunday Saturday, night. We're gonna break down

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Speaker 2: all these games. We've got a full NFL slate. What

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Speaker 2: about an employee that stole twenty two million dollars from

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Speaker 2: his NFL team. We're gonna get into the Zach Wilson comments.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about what happened with the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: last week and the bad break they had. All kinds

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Speaker 2: of stuff coming up. I'll be back on these airwaves

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Speaker 2: eleven pm Saturday night on The Bernie Frattle Show. Keep

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