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Speaker 1: I'm your host, U Shooter and it is Thursday, which

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Speaker 1: means our dear friend Mark Lupa joins us. Hey, Loopy

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Speaker 1: are you there? Loopy? Luis? Hi Rob, Welcome back, Leepy.

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Speaker 1: Louis missed you. We missed you, miss do. How is

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Speaker 2: It was fantastic? You know I missed you too, of course,

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Speaker 2: but we talked about you as we do, and I'm

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Speaker 1: We talked about you too. If you listen to the episode,

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Speaker 1: we always gossip behind your back. It's terrible. Am I

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Speaker 1: that friend that If we're at drinks and you get

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Speaker 1: But I say nice things I do. I think you can.

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Speaker 1: Gossip does not have to be a bad thing. It

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Speaker 1: really doesn't. You can say really nice things, like if

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Speaker 1: And blah blah blah. I know you can be nice,

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Speaker 1: naughty but nice. Okay, that's what we are here on

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Speaker 1: the Naughty be Nice Show. Let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 1: What time is it My Friends and his Tea Time. Oh,

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Speaker 1: big shocking announcement yesterday. So Don Lemon was returning with

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Speaker 1: a new TV show. It was going to be on X,

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Speaker 1: a big exclusive deal. Well now it's not happening. Elon

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Speaker 1: he's mad with me. So Don, the formercy and and

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Speaker 1: bad press. Nobody's neutral on Don Lemon. You love him

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Speaker 1: he's quite happy with it. He's no shrinking Violet. When

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Speaker 1: what happened is after the interview, Elon did not re

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Speaker 1: like what went down. Some people are reporting Don asked

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Speaker 1: are reporting this is who Musk is. He's a billionaires,

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Speaker 1: but he's super rich. He's very temperamental. Going into business

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Speaker 1: with somebody like that, it's always a risk. But let's

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Speaker 1: be honest here, Don didn't have many other choices at

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Speaker 1: ABC or NBC or NSNBC called him to give him

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Speaker 1: realize who am I going to be working for. I

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Speaker 1: sure if there's any blame here. I'm not blaming Don,

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming Elan. I'm just acknowledging both of these

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Speaker 1: carefully Mark. I might not have asked him about drug use,

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Speaker 1: or I might not want him to be my first guest.

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Speaker 1: Get I get it done. You're from TV. You want

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Speaker 1: You want it to be a big guest. In fact,

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Speaker 1: when shows launch Mark, there's a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 1: what the show's about. And so I think Don came

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Speaker 1: you said this? Really?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, just before the show started we were

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, Rob, and I think that's why

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Speaker 2: you see people struggle when they leave cable news. There's

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Speaker 1: Nice Rob. Our facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be

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Speaker 1: talking about, Sharon, who was it? And I've gone through

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