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Speaker 1: This He's Talking Cowboys screening live from the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World Course at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 3: Streets tiedown and now your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: What's going on Talking Cowboys Nation?

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Speaker 4: Welcome into a brand new edition of Talking Cowboys, presented

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Speaker 4: by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 4: Texas and the SWEC Studios. It is the off season.

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Speaker 4: We have finished up the NFC and AFC championship games.

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Speaker 2: Now it's the two.

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Speaker 4: Week wait until the Super Bowl. And this is a

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Speaker 4: two week period there a lot goes on. There is

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Speaker 4: a lot happening in the NFL. You've got draft preparation,

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Speaker 4: coaching carousels. You've got continued looks at rosters and self

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Speaker 4: reflection and.

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Speaker 2: A whole lot of craziness.

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Speaker 4: But we're here to break it down for you here

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Speaker 4: over the next forty five minutes, We've got Isaiah Standback,

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Speaker 4: John Machoda.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeomans. Nick Harris is out at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 4: In Mobile, Alabama, Mobile and we'll check in with him

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Speaker 4: in a couple of minutes in Mobail in Mobile. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: what do you think about the Senior Bowl? You like

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Speaker 4: watching these practices every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, I kind of figure you're not a draft guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a draft guy neither. Jo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean some years I am. It depends on the class.

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Speaker 6: It's turns down where the Cowboys are.

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Speaker 2: Picking outside the top twenty.

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Speaker 5: Factor in uh, but yeah, this year, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think part of it with me too, is probably

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Speaker 6: just because they didn't get a ton of their draft

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Speaker 6: class this year in terms of contribution, So when they

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Speaker 6: have so many other years in the past that immediately

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Speaker 6: have had guys have helped. And I think that's subconsciously

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Speaker 6: has factored in with me too. And I don't think

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Speaker 6: that I would be alone in this. I think there's

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Speaker 6: probably some other people that follow the Cowboys or Cowboys fans,

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Speaker 6: they probably feel the same way.

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Speaker 5: Just after you know your first picks.

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Speaker 6: Mazzie Smith and then Luke Schoonmaker and then to Marvin

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Speaker 6: Overshow and get Hurt, I mean that's those are your

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Speaker 6: premium picks that you would expect could help you right away,

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Speaker 6: and to not get much from them. It just it's

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Speaker 6: kind of hard to sit there and sell like no, no, no.

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Speaker 6: But this year, like they're going to get this guy

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Speaker 6: here and this guy here and this guy here, and

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Speaker 6: they're all going to help immediately. And they might you

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Speaker 6: don't know. I mean that's the thing about the draft

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Speaker 6: from year to year, it's different. But also I think

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Speaker 6: they're gonna take an offensive lineman in the first round,

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Speaker 6: and that's not as.

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Speaker 5: Sexy as maybe some other positions.

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Speaker 2: When they know it's sexy. About to say, Isaiah, that

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Speaker 2: might be the one way, one way to get him

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Speaker 2: excited about it. That's right, that's right. I need o line.

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Speaker 2: Is that brick? It is brick? Yeah. On the NFL network,

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Speaker 2: our fans can't see that though. Sorry sorry coach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, old Liman is definitely sexy.

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Speaker 5: You might be interested.

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Speaker 2: I know what is sexy. You know what's sexy scoring points.

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Speaker 7: Look at all the teams that were playing this past weekend.

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Speaker 7: All four teams had the ability to line up and

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Speaker 7: just run the ball right at your face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sexy. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, if we're gonna go ahead and put

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Speaker 7: the title sexy on me? That is it sexy? The

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Speaker 7: definition of sexy and football is being able to run

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Speaker 7: the ball and impose your will anytime you want it to.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean to a certain extent. I mean if

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Speaker 6: you win the game that way, yeah, then it is.

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Speaker 7: But if you lose, I mean you would like you

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Speaker 7: would like to have the ability to do other things. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 7: But I mean, like the game of football, you should

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Speaker 5: And this team, this Cowboys team, was not able to

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Speaker 2: They did not possess that this new year.

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Speaker 6: But it makes you wonder, okay, to just adding one

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Speaker 6: premium offensive lineman draft pick and to change that.

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Speaker 2: It might it might. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: You added Tyler Smith and he did pretty dog on will. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and he's played two positions for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think.

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Speaker 4: You could help and move it in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: But does that also will limit you from doing anything else?

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Speaker 2: I mean of vamping your run game? Probably? Three years

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Speaker 7: Two years ago, Kansas City Chiefs swapped out four new

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Speaker 2: They got four new offices.

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Speaker 4: Going into last year, so two full season, two seasons ago.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they got four out of five office linemen. They're

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Speaker 7: brand new, right, whether you're in acquisitions through free agency

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Speaker 5: I hate using them as an example.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's not use them then.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're a bad example because I like, hold on,

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Speaker 6: maybe we might disagree on this. So, like I'm of

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Speaker 6: the belief that I'm not saying Patrick Mahomes turns Carolina

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Speaker 6: elevates even a Carolina Panthers to he would make like

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Speaker 6: Carolina are like, man, you get rid of this guy,

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Speaker 6: You get rid of this guy. Like he elevates everybody's

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Speaker 6: Mahomes because he has he just has the it factor.

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Speaker 6: He's just so special. We're watching greatness in its prime.

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Speaker 4: Was, him and Kelsey both, I mean, and that defense,

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Speaker 4: those two guys are going to get a lot of

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Speaker 4: the credit, Mahomes and Kelsey, and they definitely should.

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Speaker 2: They're both incredible and they both have that hit factor.

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Speaker 2: But that defense is legit as well.

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Speaker 5: That is nasty, great defensive coordinator to you.

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Speaker 4: But you look at the other three teams that were

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Speaker 7: All those teams have good receivers and good quarterbacks, right yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. But they said they can still

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Speaker 5: And a good run game helps your past game.

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Speaker 2: Too, I swear that's kind of the thing around here

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Speaker 2: when you could run the ball.

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Speaker 4: Just for reference, Dallas finished fourteenth in that category rushing

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Speaker 4: yards per game. It's interesting, and that might have been

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Speaker 7: Then you blew out it probably we have the ability

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Speaker 5: Oh, they probably were within the last couple of years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty they weren't very good.

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Speaker 6: But I bet you one of these last two years,

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Speaker 6: I thought they ran the ball pretty well. Maybe they

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Speaker 6: didn't run it enough, but I thought they ran it

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Speaker 5: The last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: They were ninth in twenty twenty two, eighteenth in yards

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one. As my WiFi is very slow, by

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Speaker 4: They were twentieth in yards per play yards per rush

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Speaker 5: And what was that like four something four point It

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Speaker 2: Zero one ish, Yeah, it was something like that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: But I'm just interested because this offseason there could be

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Speaker 6: a lot of change just to the Cowboys run game,

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Speaker 6: you know, whether you talk about add an offensive lineman

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Speaker 6: there's gonna be some new pieces there. So, and let's

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Speaker 6: be honest, Mike McCarthy does want to run the ball.

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Speaker 6: He's said this multiple times. I would think that there's

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Speaker 2: Do you think that he gave up on that this year.

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Speaker 6: be like, yeah, you know, we could have won twelve

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Speaker 6: I want to establish a running game, which never happened,

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Speaker 6: that still happened. But they I think adjusting their offense

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Speaker 4: By the way, last time Dallas was in the top

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Speaker 4: five in terms of rushing yards per game twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: McCarthy got here, you're like, nineteen ninety three, yeah, nineteen

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Speaker 4: They were fifth in both rushing yards per game and

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Speaker 2: Point eight Wow in twenty nineteen. Pretty good. It's pretty solid.

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Speaker 4: And they were also the top offense in the country

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 6: It is funny though, because to me, this on paper

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Speaker 6: was the best Cowboys team, especially with factoring in being

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Speaker 6: battle tested, having gone through making playoffs things like that,

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Speaker 6: like they were ready to roll veteran coaching staff and

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Speaker 6: all that. But it is interesting because when I go

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Speaker 6: back to what would be the best team since then

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Speaker 6: that the Cowboys have had, I go to sixteen and fourteen,

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Speaker 6: and when I think of sixteen and fourteen, it's all

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Speaker 6: about like, how good they were running the football?

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Speaker 2: What was the office of line in twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 4: You still had Frederick, you had you had just gotten

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Speaker 4: rid of Leary, so it was Smith, Martin, Frederick, Connor Williams.

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Speaker 6: That sounds about right, Yeah, And that loss in Frederick

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Speaker 2: Man, who is who is your right tackle at that point? No,

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Speaker 2: it was it was totally lyo. Yeah. So there's your

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Speaker 2: starting file offense lie pretty good offensive one. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I just think the correlation is just crazy. Yeah, that's all.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, I'm saying, if you it is a

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Speaker 7: So it answers your question, there's one superstar office alignment

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Speaker 2: You know that Travis Frederick is a superstar. Whenever you

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Speaker 2: It's actually really really deep the terms office line to

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Speaker 7: Okay, So whether you go in free agency and I

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Speaker 7: be the successor to to Tyrone. Okay, and I also

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Speaker 7: right there's I don't I'm not one to put limits

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Speaker 2: Out of Tyler Beyadis.

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Speaker 7: He is a free agent though, understand that, That's what

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, So you have a choice to retain him

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Speaker 2: Thank you for what you've done. You've done a good job.

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Speaker 7: But I would like to see somebody who's bigger, more physical,

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Speaker 6: What about when you talk about that, what about the

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Speaker 6: What about the knowledge you know? I kind of feel

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Speaker 7: I would much rather bring in a first round left

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Speaker 7: the choice, I got you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well your left tackle of the future too, because

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Speaker 2: Where he's been very successful.

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Speaker 4: And you throw a guy out of the left tackle

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Speaker 6: Then you hope that they can stay healthy and you

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm trying to.

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Speaker 6: Think of who was the one that, like everybody loved

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Speaker 5: Yeah, is he a center?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like a guy like that that instantly comes everyone that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: The first, in the first round. Yes, he was playing

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but but you said, though, like number one rushing

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Speaker 2: Didn't they pick up another office lineman that same year? Probably?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Ravens are an incredible drafting class. I can

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Speaker 2: But I think they picked up some I remember them

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's what the Ravens do. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: With that being said, though you're talking about not watching

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Speaker 4: about four or five individuals, Isaiah, that are offensive linemen

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Speaker 4: that are legitimate players that the Cowboys could draft at

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Speaker 4: twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, legitimate offensive lineman. Tyler gotten out of Oklahoma. You've

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Speaker 4: There's another Oregon center that's really good, Jackson Powers. Johnson Dude,

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Speaker 2: I promise. I know he's he played for the wrong team,

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Speaker 5: He's isaiahs board.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done.

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Speaker 6: I do I do enjoy reading about the draft, like

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Speaker 2: I love that stuff. If I could be in Mobile

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Speaker 4: I would totally be in Mobile right now. I usually go,

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Speaker 2: Next year, I will be back in Mobile.

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Speaker 5: That's probably smart.

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Speaker 6: This past year, though, I did enjoy going on Saturday

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Speaker 6: I enjoyed that because you know who all these top

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Speaker 5: You saw most of them in college. And I'll probably

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Speaker 4: It was the first year they led us actually in

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I'll see there's I heard there's a good

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Speaker 4: I'll tell my know, a couple of guys. Yeah, a

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Speaker 2: Good memory.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Daniel Filelly from Minnesota six foot eight,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was the third, third or second tallest player

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Speaker 4: Let's get a little bit of news and notes, John,

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Speaker 4: There's a couple little nuggets from.

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Speaker 2: This past week that Cowboys fans would find interesting. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think the biggest one by far, and it's actually two,

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Speaker 6: I did find it entertaining, and as I reached out

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Speaker 4: I was shocked too one because of the style of

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel like they lined up well with Kellen.

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Speaker 2: But I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised in the fact that everybody's happy that he's

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Speaker 2: He had an okay year in LA.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we just talked about how he had the

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't like him being a Philly I don't

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Speaker 7: a good thing that you're going to see him twice

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore is a dude. He's a dude.

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Speaker 7: Is are things that he needs to continue to develop

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Speaker 7: and change about his offensive play, you know, calling style.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, He's still not perfect.

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Speaker 4: He's not perfect. He's still a young Officer of Coordinator.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Andy Reid's been around league one hundred seventy

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Speaker 2: I think it was seventy three. Yeah, sorry, mister year. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But Kellen Moore is still young. I mean, what is

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Speaker 2: But you give somebody weapons. We've seen what Kellen Moore is.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine. Yeah, I'm just kidding. Yeah, he's thirty five. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as a third OC job, third OC job with

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Speaker 2: A problem in this league.

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Speaker 7: So Cowboys Nation, I'm not sure why you would be

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Speaker 2: That in the running game.

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Speaker 7: That just a lot of that comes in a form

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Speaker 7: So that's kind of a scary thing with him with

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Speaker 6: He just part of a Cowboys offense that the team

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Speaker 6: you become kind of a scapegoat. And that's what happened

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Speaker 6: with him. Was he the best offensive coordinat in nater

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Speaker 6: And it kind of makes you go like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: The lead a horse to a while, but I can't

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Speaker 7: So yeah, he's a dude, and I'm not sure why

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Speaker 2: Outside of Dallas, well, there.

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Speaker 4: Was frustration at the end of his tenure here, and

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Speaker 4: expected to see him take steps forward and instead he

448
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Speaker 4: kind of plateaued in Dallas specifically, and he got a

449
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Speaker 4: chance with La. La had a lot more problems than

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Speaker 4: just Kellen Moore. That was not all on Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 4: With the Chargers, they changed coaching staves, and of course

452
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Speaker 4: whenever you change stabs, you change from.

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Speaker 2: Top to bottom.

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Speaker 4: And so he now gets a second opportunity, and of

455
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Speaker 4: course Philadelphia Nick Sirianni thought, hey, he's done enough in

456
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Speaker 4: our eyes to go and give him this position, to

457
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Speaker 4: give him an offensive coordinator role and a team that

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Speaker 4: is desperate, just like Dallas is, to get back to

459
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Speaker 4: where they once were. Sure they've been there more recently,

460
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Speaker 4: but they certainly were talking about Nick Sirianni's job and

461
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Speaker 4: his secure already going into it. He's not going to

462
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Speaker 4: hire just any coordinator on the street. No, He's not

463
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Speaker 4: hiring guys that he doesn't trust. His job is certainly

464
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Speaker 4: on the line going into this year. So yeah, there's

465
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Speaker 4: a lot of trust around the league and Kellen Moore.

466
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Speaker 4: And while there was some frustration with Dallas and the

467
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Speaker 4: way the things ended, he had a lot of good

468
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Speaker 4: runs here. He had a lot of good teams and

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Speaker 4: some players here that that worked out well, just didn't

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Speaker 4: have the playoff success that you wanted.

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Speaker 6: I'm just always interested when a guys respected more within

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Speaker 6: the league than maybe by fans. Sure, so that he

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Speaker 6: certainly seems to be the case.

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Speaker 2: There a lot of guys like that.

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Speaker 4: But there's also a lot of guys that are reversed

476
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Speaker 4: like that, that are respected by fans.

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Speaker 2: And not so much within inner circles inside the league.

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Speaker 6: So they also made a change of defensive coordinator in

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Speaker 6: Philadelphia and now they have Vic Fangio.

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Speaker 2: I know you would you would have something to say about.

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Speaker 6: So I feel like they're kind of getting two coordinators

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Speaker 6: that are, I mean, if any as interesting as it

483
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Speaker 6: is for the Philadelphia Eagles and their fan base. The

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Speaker 6: other part is that's it's a fat They're both fascinating

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Speaker 6: hires from a Cowboys fan standpoint, because you were very

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Speaker 6: familiar with both both of these coordinators do. Here's not

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Speaker 6: a lot of gray area there. So what were your

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Speaker 6: thoughts on Big Fangio going to the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have a lot of thoughts in regards to that.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of weird how he got

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Speaker 4: out of Miami. Yeah, I wasn't sure if that was

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Speaker 4: like a head notlge.

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Speaker 5: He might have family.

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Speaker 7: He has family there, but I'm not sure if that

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Speaker 7: was Miami saying okay, yes, like we respect you enough

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Speaker 7: to go home, Go go be with your family, or

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Speaker 7: if that was like, yeah, things weren't really going that

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Speaker 7: well anyways.

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Speaker 2: Like okay, go be with your family. You know. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that went down, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: really matter.

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Speaker 4: He's I don't think it was a Wink Martin Dale

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Speaker 4: situation where they just out the head coach.

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Speaker 6: And stormed out of them, so that maybe it was

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Speaker 6: more like a Calim Morton Dallas one where maybe him

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Speaker 6: and Mike got together and we're like, hey, ultimately it's

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Speaker 6: probably better we go.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know he had many

509
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Speaker 7: thoughts on the Big Fangio. I think he's obviously he's

510
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Speaker 7: a veteran, the deepest coordinator in this league. He's had

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Speaker 7: a lot of success.

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Speaker 2: Tom. It really comes down to the weapons, and they

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Speaker 2: have a lot of them.

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Speaker 7: So again that's that's somebody who has a lot of knowledge,

515
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Speaker 7: somebody who's very creative. I think offensive coordinator and defensive

516
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Speaker 7: coordinator are both creative now for Philadelphia, and they have

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Speaker 7: the talent. Anytime, you can take somebody who can who

518
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Speaker 7: whose entire job is putting guys in position to be successful,

519
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Speaker 7: and their creative as all get out, and they have

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Speaker 7: the talent to do so it's dangerous.

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Speaker 6: When you say that though, I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I guess I don't I think they're talented. I don't

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Speaker 6: think they're really that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Like I look at their front in Philadelphia, Yeah, I

526
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Speaker 6: don't look at that back end.

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Speaker 2: As absolutely they need work. The secondaries work, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: but that's one position.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when you go into a draft or you go

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Speaker 2: into an off season, you like their linebackers. Uh, linebackers

532
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Speaker 2: aren't terrible.

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Speaker 5: Line beggers are terrible, but yeah, the d line, I.

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Speaker 2: Guess linebackers don't have to be amazing when you have

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Speaker 2: that defensive line. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So I mean when you go into an off season

537
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Speaker 7: needing a position group that you need to upgrade. That

538
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Speaker 7: makes it so much easier. Yeah, so I mean like

539
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Speaker 7: that stuff that that stuff to me is like they

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Speaker 7: got draft picks and then we know that they know

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Speaker 7: how to fan dangle a dog on roster, so that's

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Speaker 7: not an issue. They never had an issue with that.

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Speaker 7: So if they know that they have a weakness, they're

544
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Speaker 7: going to address it.

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Speaker 4: He was a consultant with Philadelphia back in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 4: so just remember that. So the year that they went

547
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Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl, he was a consultant. He was

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Speaker 4: in the building year. It is interesting how, like you said, John,

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Speaker 4: and I completely agree with you, how there is a

550
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Speaker 4: Cowboys connection, but it's really from one game. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's been around the league as a defensive coordinator since

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five. He's been almost every spot in the

553
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Speaker 4: AFC and the NFC doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 2: He's been all over the place.

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Speaker 4: But it's that one game thirty to sixteen and twenty

556
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Speaker 4: twenty one, when the Denver Broncos came in, he was

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Speaker 4: a head coach and they had the blueprint is what

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Speaker 4: they called it. And from that point forward he's latched

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Speaker 4: on to Cowboys fans as the guy who.

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Speaker 2: Came up with the blueprint.

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Speaker 4: And pretty much derailed a crazy how one moment change

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Speaker 4: your future?

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Speaker 2: Huh Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I always think of it with the Cowboys, just because

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Speaker 6: I remember when he was in Chicago for a few

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Speaker 6: years there. It's like he was the DC and Mike McCarthy,

567
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Speaker 6: who was calling the offense the Packers, and so they

568
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Speaker 6: had some there's some familiarity there and so that's why

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Speaker 6: they know each other. But then again, when you've coached

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Speaker 6: as long as Mike McCarthy, there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 6: of connections.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He was a DC from twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen

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Speaker 4: before taking the Broncos job in twenty nineteen in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: By the way, DC in Chicago.

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Speaker 6: Other thing I want to get to, we've got some

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Speaker 6: additions to the Pro Bowl for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that when we come back. Okays, do that.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a break real quick, and when we come back,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about the Pro Bowl and then also.

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Speaker 2: What's happening with dan Quinn? What is next for dan Quinn.

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Speaker 4: There's been a bit of pause on the Seahawks side

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Speaker 4: of things.

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Speaker 12: Welcome back into Dear Doctor, the show where I answer

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Speaker 2: To Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Isaiah No Dan.

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Speaker 7: By the time I'm able to get here, they shut

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Speaker 7: down breakfast earlier.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I have to have a job, Kyle, you

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Speaker 2: were here early all season.

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Speaker 7: I know that's when the Cowboys actually wanted to pay me.

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Speaker 7: So now the Cowboys don't work no more.

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Speaker 2: Should should I stop asking?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 2: Should I stop asking about the oats?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 2: Maybe until next.

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Speaker 7: Year, I don't know. Maybe beam Urtle start sending me

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Speaker 7: aside some oats. You're going to get a microwave in.

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Speaker 5: There, save save.

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Speaker 7: Don't have cold oats, man, I'm not a cold olds guy.

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Speaker 7: Some people like to put their oats in it in

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Speaker 7: the refrigerator overnight.

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Speaker 2: Pretty sure that those are fire though different. That's overnight oats.

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Speaker 2: That's completely different. Not an overnight. Only thing I'm eating

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Speaker 2: overnight is going to be pizza. So that's the only thing.

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Speaker 2: Like if you leave it out, hmm, that sounds good

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Speaker 2: to me, to be honest. Cold pizza, and I like

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Speaker 2: cold pizza once in a while, but.

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Speaker 5: There's really not bad pizza.

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Speaker 2: Where do you put your pizza at where? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Like if you order pizza at night, right, most people do,

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Speaker 7: Okay the next day, Like where are you pulling the

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Speaker 7: pizza from? Are you pulling it from the refrigerator, pulling

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Speaker 7: it in front of microwavedge?

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Speaker 6: But I know people put in the oven, but I'm

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Speaker 6: a fridge guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I put it in tenfoil so it doesn't take it

670
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Speaker 4: up like a whole like tupperware or whatever. You put

671
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Speaker 4: it in ten foil and you slide it in there

672
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Speaker 4: and it doesn't take up a whole lot of room.

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Speaker 2: You pull it right back out. Your question was to

674
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Speaker 2: ask the fans where do you put your pizza? Where

675
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: do you put your pizza? We don't have the tail.

676
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Speaker 4: You don't put it in the fridge sometimes, okay, but

677
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Speaker 4: it makes it really like hard and you have to

678
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Speaker 4: put it in the Yeah, you have to put it

679
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Speaker 4: in the what do.

680
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Speaker 2: You call it, the regular oven, the air fire.

681
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta put in the air fier to get

682
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Speaker 4: the chiefezza in the air fra.

683
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Speaker 5: I've never done that.

684
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 2: Man. My wife makes these kids pizzas bougie. That sounds awesome, honestly,

685
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: does it actually like it revives it? Okay?

686
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: Just by the way, we were talking in the last

687
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 4: segment about veteran offensive linemen that are available. Oh yeah,

688
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 4: free agents, I went on. I just did a geneneric

689
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: search and it took me to PFF Pro Football Focus,

690
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 4: and I haven't done a deep dive in veteran free

691
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: agents or anything yet, but they're top rated center on

692
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Speaker 4: the offensive line market this year.

693
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Speaker 2: Would you like to take a guest?

694
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, I already know for you to bring

695
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 5: this up.

696
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: Connor Williams Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: That is your top rated center right now, according to

698
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Speaker 4: Pro Football Focus, as your best veteran that you could

699
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 4: bring in.

700
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Speaker 5: Where is the Cowboys center on that list?

701
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: Not above Connor Williams.

702
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: Apparently you thought I was gonna say Tyler, because I did.

703
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: The next one is Andre James Las Vegas Raiders and

704
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: might be a decent fit.

705
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: I'll get back to you.

706
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 6: Always forget that they move Connor Williams the center because

707
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 6: he didn't get I want to say when he signed,

708
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 6: he was signed to play guard and then like maybe

709
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 6: camp they went through. Maybe it was first couple weeks

710
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Speaker 6: of came They're like, no, I think it's a better

711
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 6: at center.

712
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lloyd Cushion Berry from the Denver Broncos.

713
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Speaker 4: I liked him out of Oklahoma whenever he came out

714
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Speaker 4: of the draft.

715
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Speaker 2: That would be a fun ad.

716
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Speaker 4: I'm looking for Tyler Biattish and I'm still scrolling. I'm

717
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: in the sixties now.

718
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Speaker 2: Still, there's no way he's in the sick unless I

719
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Speaker 2: missed the murders. Is possible to be in a top

720
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Speaker 2: thirty two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna be what. He's good enough to be

722
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Speaker 5: a starting center.

723
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Speaker 2: Cal They have him at ninety three overall.

724
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Speaker 5: Yea, of all of the positions, he's like of centers.

725
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not of all positions. He is number ninety three.

726
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Speaker 2: Is the top free agents in the NFL this.

727
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Speaker 6: Year, judging by hat Cowboys have done business recently. That's

728
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Speaker 6: bragging Beeer Center. They'll probably get him for an affordable

729
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 6: price and they'll be like, this is a better option

730
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Speaker 6: because he's been in the building than bringing somebody else.

731
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that's what I would do. I'm not

732
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Speaker 6: saying that's what Isaiah would do.

733
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I would do, or what the fans

734
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Speaker 2: would do, or But what I'm.

735
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Speaker 6: Saying I just you follow the breadcrumbs of how things

736
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Speaker 6: have gone.

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Speaker 5: Sure that would not surprise me.

738
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Speaker 4: I think the way that Tyler Battish's situation happens this

739
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: year is going to tell you a lot about how

740
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Speaker 4: this offseason is going to go. That one specific player

741
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Speaker 4: might be a microcosm of what everything else is going

742
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Speaker 4: to look like. Because if you keep your coaching staff

743
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Speaker 4: and you keep your players the same, how do you

744
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: expect the running back.

745
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Speaker 2: And go into twenty twenty four and have better success.

746
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Speaker 2: You're going to keep your coaching staff. Oh, they already

747
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: have Mike McCarthy.

748
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Speaker 4: I mean, we'll talk about Dan Quinn at all, but

749
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Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy is still here.

750
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Speaker 2: He is when I'm saying, your coaching staff, that's what

751
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Speaker 2: it is.

752
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Speaker 4: And you might keep your defensive coordinator too, But if

753
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 4: if you don't change anything from a coaching staff standpoint,

754
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: how are you going to get better? If you expect

755
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Speaker 4: to just run it back and for things to stay

756
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Speaker 4: the same. If they go out and they resign to

757
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Speaker 4: Tyler Biottish, that's saying, Okay, it's the same thing as

758
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Speaker 4: like you said in the past, it's we like our guys,

759
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Speaker 4: We would like to keep our guys. We want to

760
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Speaker 4: keep moving forward and building whatever we have here. Whereas

761
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Speaker 4: if you let Tyler Biottish go and you're aggressive and

762
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Speaker 4: adding a free agent or going out and drafting or

763
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Speaker 4: whatever it ends up being on the offensive front, I

764
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Speaker 4: think it's a completely different mindset.

765
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Speaker 7: Maybe whatever happened to evolution, Kyle, you say a guys

766
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Speaker 7: can't get better, they.

767
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Speaker 2: Can get better. Gosh, they certainly can.

768
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Speaker 5: I don't think fans aren't want to wait for that note.

769
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: Wants to wait and watch it get better. They want

770
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Speaker 2: to be aggressive.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think part of that could be I'm

772
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Speaker 6: not saying they would do two moves like they did

773
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Speaker 6: last year, but why not kick the tires on doing

774
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Speaker 6: another one of those Gilmore type Brandon Cook's trades. Yeah,

775
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 6: where you.

776
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Speaker 5: Bring in a veteran who you know.

777
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're gonna give up a late round pick, but

778
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Speaker 6: it helps you immediately and The reason why I think

779
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 6: that could be a factor again is because you would

780
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 6: only back away from that thinking if it bit you.

781
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Speaker 6: And I think they got good return on the investment.

782
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Speaker 6: And so that's why I could see them being more

783
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Speaker 6: willing to do more of that, because that's not act

784
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Speaker 6: like they always were doing that, like I mean just

785
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Speaker 6: covering the Cowboys for thirteen years. Like when they did

786
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 6: those moves last year, which again those were in whatever

787
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 6: March April ish that time of year, that kind of

788
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Speaker 6: surprised me that they did it. So I could see

789
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Speaker 6: them potentially going down that road again. But yeah, I

790
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Speaker 6: don't think you can just keep the exact same roster

791
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 6: and think you're just going to run it back that way.

792
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Speaker 6: There has to be some type of changes on this roster.

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Speaker 4: All right, Speaking of changes on the roster, we mentioned

794
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Speaker 4: Dan Quinn, but you had one other news and note

795
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Speaker 4: that you wanted to get to in terms of changes

796
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Speaker 4: on the Pro Bowl roster.

797
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that was very professional. I was very that

799
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Speaker 5: was impressive. How you did.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

801
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Speaker 6: Yes, three editions from the Cowboys to the Pro Bowl roster.

802
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Speaker 6: I no one was excited about this. DeMarcus Lawrence has

803
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 6: been added Jake Ferguson has been added and Tyler Smith.

804
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: So, hey, Tyler, Tyler.

805
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Speaker 6: Tyler Smith is replacing Zach Martin, who is not going

806
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Speaker 6: to compete in it. Tmarcus Lawrence is replacing Nick Bosa,

807
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 6: who'll be playing in the Super Bowl. And DeMarcus said

808
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 6: that this would happen, you know, he said it as

809
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Speaker 6: locker he goes when he didn't get originally picked for

810
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Speaker 6: the Pro Bowl. I asked him if it bothered him,

811
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Speaker 6: and he said, you know, he had a longer answer,

812
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Speaker 6: but in it he said that, well, it's probably gonna

813
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Speaker 6: be me or Bosa.

814
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 5: Because Bosa's in it right now.

815
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Speaker 6: If his team goes Super Bowl, then he's going to

816
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Speaker 6: be in it. But if we go to the super Bowl,

817
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Speaker 6: then I don't care because I would rather be playing

818
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Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl than go to the Pro Bowl.

819
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Speaker 6: So with Bosa going to the super Bowl, he's out.

820
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Speaker 6: And then also Jake Ferguson gets in because George Kittle

821
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Speaker 6: is going to the Super Bowl. So while now the

822
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Speaker 6: Cowboys technically have ten Pro Bowlers, they would obviously like

823
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Speaker 6: to have none. And I'll be playing in two weeks.

824
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the general thought is it's nice to

825
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: see the recognition, but it also didn't turn into a

826
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl trip, and that's kind of what you wanted

827
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: to happen. But yeah, speak congratulations all those guys though.

828
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it speaks for the talent that you have

829
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Speaker 6: on the team. Like anybody that sits there and says

830
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Speaker 6: that this was not a talented roster, I just I

831
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Speaker 6: completely disagree.

832
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Speaker 7: With I totally agree with you, John. I think people

833
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 7: are crazy everybody calling for double J and oh you

834
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 7: need to get out, And I'm like, what's your job

835
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Speaker 7: as a general manager again, like build a roster, build

836
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 7: a roster, build a coaching staff, put your team in.

837
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Speaker 2: A position to be successful. I think they've done a

838
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: pretty good job of that.

839
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'm not really sure what else you can

840
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 7: expect there, buddy, Opoell.

841
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Speaker 6: No, only only other part of that, if I'm speaking

842
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 6: for the fans right now, I would say is they

843
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 6: would probably be fine with maybe less times talking to

844
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Speaker 6: myself and others.

845
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 5: In the media and maybe, but he's the brand. I

846
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 5: get that.

847
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 6: But some people think the brand is what's getting in

848
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 6: the way, And it's kind of hard to argue. Every

849
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 6: year that goes by, you don't get back there. You

850
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 6: can argue that that we can't have these.

851
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 4: Sor yeah, at the beginning of the show, it's like,

852
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: I'm not interested in on.

853
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: The offensive Lineman's anybody to.

854
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 6: Give him a TV like that shouldn't be let's talk

855
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 6: it on and that he can just I.

856
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: Don't think the NFL would mind. That's just extra viewership

857
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: for them, right, That's all it would be. Uh. But yeah,

858
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: I think this roster was good enough. That's part of

859
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: the frustration.

860
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: Yes, the roster was good enough to be in the mix,

861
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: to be in the conversation, and ultimately it wasn't good

862
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: enough to get the job done.

863
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: So where does that that blame start. I think a

864
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: lot of it.

865
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 4: It goes to your coaching staff, and it goes to

866
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: the preparation in the mindset of the players, and you

867
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: try and point fingers wherever you can. But this raw

868
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: was good and you can make it better, no doubt.

869
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 4: There are weaknesses, just like any other team. Their weakness

870
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: is up on that roster, and part of it is

871
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: running the football. Part of it is in linebacker roles. Yeah,

872
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: stop and a run. Yeah, there's got to win the trenches. So,

873
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 4: speaking of dan Quinn has still not been hired yet

874
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: as a head coach John Machoda, have you heard anythings

875
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 4: specifically on dan and what that process has looked like.

876
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: Over the last couple of weeks.

877
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, he's obviously interviewed with the Seahawks multiple times.

878
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 6: I mean, he's been the guy that people have talked

879
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 6: about for a long time. Now is like, well, this

880
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 6: is the obvious guy that they're going to hire, and.

881
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: They also have Rahey Morrison.

882
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 6: That conversation true, and he's now longer available. So it's

883
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 6: one of those things where it comes down to, Okay,

884
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 6: well there's only two jobs open right now, it's Seattle

885
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 6: in Washington, and so many people have.

886
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 5: Thought that, yeah, Dan ca I mean, not Dankie.

887
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Dan Quinn is going to get the Seattle job,

888
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 6: and then Ben Jhonson, the OC from the Lions, is

889
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 6: going to get the Washington job. But then yesterday ESPN's

890
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Speaker 6: Adam Schefter said that I can't remember how he worded it.

891
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Speaker 5: I was looking it up.

892
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 6: I can't find it exactly always said, but it was

893
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Speaker 6: basically like, yeah, don't expect both of those those both

894
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 6: are not happy are not going to happen, and I

895
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Speaker 6: wouldn't be surprised if like neither of them happen, which

896
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Speaker 6: would be stunning to both. I mean, because it's been

897
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Speaker 6: like this foregone conclusion for weeks now that dan Quinn's

898
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Speaker 6: going to get the cl job, Ben Jonson is going

899
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Speaker 6: to get the Washington job, and so there's obviously some

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Speaker 6: other candidates that all these teams are still interviewing.

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Speaker 5: I still would have dan Quinn as.

902
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Speaker 6: The leader in the clubhouse, though, I mean, if you had,

903
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Speaker 6: if you were betting money on it, I would say

904
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Speaker 6: that I still think that he's going to be Seattle's

905
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Speaker 6: head coach.

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Speaker 5: But would you feel like to be taking so long though?

907
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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of teams want to just do

908
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Speaker 4: their due diligence and really put together a research panel.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, why why is it taken so long? Yeah?

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00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 7: I've always found that if teams were taking this long

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Speaker 7: to make a hired, that they're waiting on the teams

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Speaker 7: that are actually in the play offs to finish. That's

913
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Speaker 7: what I've always seen, whether that all was true or.

914
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Speaker 2: Got two teams left. So there's two teams left, I

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Speaker 2: mean both, you know, a couple of teams just finished.

916
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Speaker 5: Up, right, so they're waiting on Reid.

917
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Speaker 7: I mean no, I mean, but like Aarin Glynn was

918
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Speaker 7: in that conversation of some coaches right for potential head

919
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 7: coaching opportunities. So I'm sure they wanted opportunity to speak

920
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Speaker 7: with him. He just finished up but two days ago.

921
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Speaker 7: So they now have opportunity to speak with, you know,

922
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Speaker 7: Baltimore's staff, and they have opportunity to speak with Detroit staff.

923
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Speaker 2: So if there were guys that you had on your list,

924
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, like McDonald's a big name.

925
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Speaker 7: If there are guys that you had on your list

926
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Speaker 7: that are now available for you to speak and meet with,

927
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Speaker 7: then you want to give them that opportunity. You don't

928
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 7: want to jump the gun, even though I say, hey,

929
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 7: you know, I'm I'm you know, eighty percent sure that

930
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Speaker 7: I'm probably going to go with Kyle. But you know what,

931
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Speaker 7: Jam's over there, he just finished at the playoffs.

932
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Speaker 2: At least let me let me at least talk with

933
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Speaker 2: him for a second, just in case.

934
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Speaker 7: It's a good idea, you know, it's a good idea,

935
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 7: just to talk him just in case, just to you know,

936
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Speaker 7: confirm or deny, you know, my my initial thoughts.

937
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Speaker 2: So I think that there's that's probably what they're going through.

938
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Speaker 7: They just want to give their respect to those guys

939
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Speaker 7: and give themselves the open mindedness to be able to

940
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Speaker 7: at least speak with those those guys and give them

941
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Speaker 7: a their due due process.

942
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Speaker 5: So this is the exact quote from Schefter.

943
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Speaker 6: He was on with Pat McFee and said, people have

944
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Speaker 6: said that Ben Johnson is going to Washington and dan

945
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Speaker 6: Quinn is going to Seattle. I will bet you that

946
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Speaker 6: at a minimum one of those is not right, and

947
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Speaker 6: maybe both.

948
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Speaker 2: So wow, good to not.

949
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 6: I know people in he try would be very surprised

950
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 6: if Ben Johnson doesn't get one of these head coaching jobs.

951
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 6: So I just he has been the favorite for that

952
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Speaker 6: Washington job.

953
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Speaker 5: This goes back.

954
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Speaker 6: This is going on the last month and the dan

955
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 6: Quinn thing. Ever since Pete Carroll said that he was

956
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 6: oh they parted ways whatever, he has been the favorite

957
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Speaker 6: for that job.

958
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that blows my mind.

959
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 7: Obviously being a Seattle guy, that really blows my mind.

960
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 7: As Seattle hasn't pulled the trigger. And I don't know

961
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 7: how much that last game played a role in it.

962
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 7: I honestly think just knowing how Snyder moves that the

963
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 7: guy that he really wants, that he really wants is

964
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 7: probably still coaching.

965
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Speaker 2: Yeah, still going.

966
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would put them in.

967
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Speaker 6: They're probably my top five top seven best run organizations

968
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Speaker 6: in the NFL.

969
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Speaker 5: So this isn't like this is uh.

970
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 6: You know, well, I'm not going to name any names,

971
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Speaker 6: but there's some organizations where you just feel like every

972
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 6: year they're looking for a new head coach. Every year

973
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 6: there's like a different direction they're going in draft whatever.

974
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Speaker 5: Seattle's not like that.

975
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: Nope, So they'll won't turn over.

976
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, they've got a pretty good idea of where they're headed.

977
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Speaker 14: They've hit our coaches and alas thirty Yeah, yeah, all right,

978
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Speaker 4: Our very own Nick Harris on the line, Nick, what's

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Speaker 15: Not too much. What's going on till his beautiful weather

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Speaker 15: down here in Mobile? Missing you guys though, Hate that

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Speaker 15: I had to miss the one show of the week.

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Speaker 15: But it's all right. We'll get it back next week.

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Speaker 4: We'll bounce back next week in a big way. Who

1033
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: has caught your eye? John Michoda asked that in the break,

1034
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: I want to ask it straight up, who's really turning

1035
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 4: heads out there in Mobile.

1036
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'll give you a little teaser and then dive

1037
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 15: into it a little bit more in the Draft show

1038
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 15: here in about an hour. But so far, Oregon sitter

1039
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 15: Jackson Powers Johnson. I know that's a guy that a

1040
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 15: lot of Cowboys fans are looking at, and he's seen

1041
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 15: his stuck rise pretty quickly over the course of the

1042
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 15: last couple of weeks. I mean, we're looking at him

1043
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 15: as potentially a late second round pick a couple of

1044
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 15: weeks ago, and now he's starting to get mocked in

1045
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 15: the top twenty seven. He's only improving his stag by

1046
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 15: being out here. So far, it's been pretty good. He's

1047
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 15: with the center and right guard. But we're only in

1048
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 15: about the first hour of the first team practicing today.

1049
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 15: So it hasn't been too much that we've been able

1050
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 15: to see, but getting an opportunity to look at Arizona

1051
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 15: tackle Geordie Morgan as well. That's another one that's been

1052
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 15: matched to the Cowboys by some various website. So definitely

1053
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 15: wanted to keep an eye on. But this week it's

1054
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 15: gonna be fun to guard.

1055
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough to see linebackers outside of reeds

1056
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: and thumping up and just some of those things throughout

1057
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: a week. But has any of these linebackers stood out?

1058
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: Because if Dallas doesn't go offensive line in the first round,

1059
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: they may be looking at that second level in the

1060
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: first or second round either.

1061
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 15: Yeah, Kyle, you know, I like North Carolina State linebacker

1062
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 15: Peyton Wilson, and he looks apart. He does not look

1063
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 15: like a guy that's had two knee surgeries. Whenever he

1064
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 15: moves around, I mean, he's really agile, he moves great.

1065
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 15: And then we're getting an opportunity to look at North

1066
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 15: Carolina linebackers Cedric Graham. Actually watching him go through a

1067
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 15: rep right now, He's looked pretty pretty good. And then

1068
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Speaker 15: Notre Dame linebacker Maris luf Out. All three of those

1069
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 15: guys that kind of stood out to me so far

1070
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 15: here in this first record when.

1071
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Speaker 6: You obviously you knew for a while that you'd be

1072
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Speaker 6: going out there. Well, and let's say you borded your plane,

1073
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 6: what would you say was like a player two that

1074
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 6: you were.

1075
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Speaker 5: Most excited about that you would you get to see

1076
00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 5: this week?

1077
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Speaker 15: Oh, I think Jackson Power Shotson was probably number one

1078
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 15: for me. I wanted to see him, and then getting

1079
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 15: an opportunity to look at the UCLA ed Rusher, love

1080
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 15: to love to He's had a couple of really big

1081
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 15: wins so far here early on, and he's actually a

1082
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 15: little bit leaner than I expected seeing him in person.

1083
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Speaker 15: I mean, whatever NFL king grabs him, they'll have that athleticism,

1084
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 15: but then they'll kind of have the flexibility to maybe

1085
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 15: add fifteen or twenty pounds to him as well. I

1086
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 15: think he's a sure fire, you know, top fifteen pick,

1087
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 15: if not top ten. Those are the two guys that

1088
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 15: really stand out, and I really like those G five

1089
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Speaker 15: school guys and the Toledo corner Kemon Mitchell and starting

1090
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Speaker 15: to get some late first round love. Really excited to

1091
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 15: see him as well. Got an opportunity to kind of

1092
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 15: watch him go to some individual gurnals. So, I mean,

1093
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 15: this game is so talented it'd be tough to wrap

1094
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 15: it all up. And just about thirty second as far

1095
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Speaker 15: as the guys that aren't really looking forward to saying,

1096
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Speaker 15: but it's been fun so far. And then the boy

1097
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Speaker 15: Michael Pennix, I think he's looking he's looking strong so far.

1098
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Speaker 2: I was just about to ask that dog already is

1099
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Speaker 2: rocking egg gold him and with the de Wians.

1100
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Speaker 4: Do you think he would run run better than a

1101
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Speaker 4: four point five zero or four point five eight forty?

1102
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Speaker 2: You think he's got a better forty than Isaiah? Don't

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Speaker 2: just speke money from what I From.

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Speaker 15: What I've heard, Michael Pennix is the fastest Washington quarterbacks

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Speaker 15: ever go through that program.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is a falsified state. I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's easy picking.

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Speaker 4: So like shit, I think I would be the fastest

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Speaker 4: to go through that program.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, this is so false. This is crazy.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, untill he goes to the combine, it's gonna be

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Speaker 15: bad news for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bro, that's okay.

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Speaker 4: I just pulled up my my sixty time me and

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Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill were in the same time.

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Speaker 7: M M okay, all right, how about that, say four

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Speaker 7: or five eight to that, buddy, Nick.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: We'll check back in with you, uh later, well Tuesday

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Speaker 4: for talking cowboys.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you on the Draft show here in

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Speaker 2: a little bit as well. So abro Hammer, you enjoy yourself,

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Speaker 2: You take some good notes.

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Speaker 15: Appreciate it. Guys'll hold it down for have.

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Speaker 2: Some good seafood while you're out there. Please seafood for me.

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Speaker 15: That's a that's a that's a done deal. Oysters are

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Speaker 15: already on the docket.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, legitimate out there all right, Nick, I have a

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Speaker 4: good one.

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Speaker 2: So good.

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Speaker 4: There's Nick Harris live from Senior Bowl practice in Mobile.

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Speaker 2: You're not an oysters guy. Oh come on, John.

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Speaker 5: I think I've said this on here before, but I'll

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Speaker 5: say it again. I don't eat any seafood.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Sorry, you have said that.

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Speaker 13: Sorry.

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Speaker 6: I was hoping he didn't bring it up because I

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Speaker 6: know some people are offended when I say it.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: The Oysters and Mobile are solid. They're solid. Okay, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about this off here. I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to gross anybody out on the show.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't for us here on Talking Cowboys. I know

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Speaker 2: it goes by quick. Come on, man, it goes by

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Speaker 2: real quick. Forty five minutes a week. Bro, What that's

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Speaker 2: all We've got forty five minutes a week. Don't go

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Speaker 2: on it. We'll be back on Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Break it down for you ten am Central Time next Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Nick Harris will be back in the building. John Joda

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Speaker 4: will be back in the building. I say a stand back.

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Speaker 4: We'll see if he shows up or not. Be out

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Speaker 4: at Senior Bowl practice. Here we've got Chris Beam in

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Speaker 4: the back for Isaiah Stanbag, Nick carro Us out in

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Speaker 4: mobile for Jamachoda. I'm Kyle Yoma saying so long from

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Speaker 4: Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.

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