WEBVTT - Bears vs. Vikings game preview: Week 12 | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.240 Right justin middle of the field forty five fifteen bring 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:06.000 Bress in front of all leaving lions in his way. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:10.799 I am Jeff joniha Litz is not Donny go R. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.880 What was like playing for coache gooddo? I don't want 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.000 to answer any questions like that. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:26.239 Sixty one yards? What Sunday stroll for? Justin field? Ye Bears, 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:26.720 et cetera. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.840 With the voices of the Chicago Bears Jeff Joniac. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.360 It's Thanksgiving and the Bears are doing the holiday balancing 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.040 act of welcoming family and friends from parts unknown into 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.519 their homes while going to work and preparing for the 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.120 Monday night matchup with the Minnesota Vikings. And most of 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.400 us in football work all the holidays, so we always 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.080 have been used to it. Same with the players and staff. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.080 We hope your Thanksgiving is joyous and wonderful. And there 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.320 is nothing better than Thanksgiving and football, and nothing better 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.600 to break down than with my guy, Tom Thayer, the 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.680 Super Bowl winning Bears guard. Here, Bears, etc. I'm Jeff 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.600 Joniac coming up for our conversation with former Bears front 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.560 office man at the former GM of the Miviamy Dolphins 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.440 in Minnesota Vikings Rick Spielman. So the status at Hallis 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.959 is Thursday will be late as they get ready for 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.319 the Vikings, and then back to work on Friday and Saturday, 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.200 depart on Sunday to take on a Viking team that 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.720 you know, we only look at how the Bears lost 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.480 their game in Detroit. They lost it similarly in Denver. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.959 Their defense played great, held them to field goals, they 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.200 owned the clock, They did everything in their power to 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.759 win that game, except they turned the ball over a lot. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.200 Yeah, you know, I never played in a Monday night 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.880 game during Thanksgiving week, so Thanksgiving Day was a normal 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.920 practice day for me throughout my career or else we 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:43.360 played on Thanksgiving Day. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.560 So I think it's the right way to go about 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:46.200 the schedule. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.480 To get the week started, to get through some meetings, 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.160 bring them in for a short period of time on Thursday, 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.080 then get back to work on Friday, and you know, 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:01.080 try to you know, figure out the last four minutes, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.240 but play more like the first sixty fifty six minutes, 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.200 and I think they can have a positive outcome come 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:07.760 Monday night. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.520 I would say the status at Hallis is exactly that. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.000 The focus on the finish we've been talking about it 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.960 all season, every week, focus on the finish. But frankly, 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.000 it's a theme that's never going to stop in football, 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.839 from the best teams to the worst teams, from high 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.240 school to college to the NFL. That's the way it works. 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.919 You find a way and you got to figure it out. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.760 To me, I'm not looking at the players. I'm looking 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.920 at what the coaches would do differently, because when you 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.720 talk about the scheme and what they're thinking and the 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.480 calls that come in from the sideline, it's then the 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.040 players go out and do their jobs accordingly. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.440 So as much as you. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.720 Know you want to talk about the outcome of the game, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.840 I you know, I'm you know, concerned about what would 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.160 the coaches do differently? 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.680 And they are four minutes. If you know, if you 0:02:58.680 --> 0:02:59.040 you know. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:03.440 You could have the privilege of asking the questions when 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.200 you look at the down and distance, you look at 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.600 the time remaining on the clock, you look at the 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.480 defensive formations, how would you go different about your business? 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.000 Yeah, I'm not gonna absolve the players though, because they 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.640 got to make They got to make the play. They 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.120 got to figure out how to make the play. If 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.799 it's defense making an interception, that you got to have, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.359 or the quarterback making a pass that you got to have, 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.600 or the offensive line making a protection you got to 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.440 have because that's where the money's made, and it's it's 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.720 across the board. Yes, coaches, but I'm not going to 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.880 absolve players from this either, not just this game. I'm 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.360 talking about finish for the whole season, like this team 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.120 is not finished for two years. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.720 And right, well, okay, well I was talking specifically about 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.880 going on, but I know I know what the bigger 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.800 picture is, so it'd be a good I guess it'll 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.040 be a debate for the plane between Yeah, it's not 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.920 gonna it's not gonna be a podcast debate. It'll be 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.280 on plane debate. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.800 And then the status we won't know until the injury 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.280 report did it doesn't have to come out until Friday now, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.760 Oh no, I guess they'll do a Thursday if they 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.880 practice type scenario. So Deontay Foreman, I want to know 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.160 where he's at at running back and Lucas Patrick at center? 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:11.520 Who left the game of the back endury? Am I 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:12.400 missing anybody? 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:13.600 You know? 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.800 How did Tremaine Edmans come out of the game and 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.760 where is he going forward? 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.000 But I think everybody else. It seemed they've come out 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.120 of the game pretty healthy. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.000 I want to retrack before we start preview. I got 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.840 to talk about the offensive line more because Tevin Jenkins, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.640 again at least in pass protection, got a high grading 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.680 from Pro Football Focus. But this year he has not 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.719 given up a sack. It's been a test for the tackles, 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.400 Braxton Jones to start the season with Larry Borum now 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.159 Braxton Jones and Darnell right at tackle. And I'm interested 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.240 because we don't ever talk about Darnow. I want to 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.000 get your impression about how he's played. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.560 I think he's playing really well. I think he's a 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:55.240 really good, thinking rookie offensive tackle. I think he plays 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.719 with strength. I think he's a heck of an athlete. 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.919 I think he has a high desire to stay on 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.160 the field, because we've seen him from the broadcast booth 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.440 where he's limped after a play or shaken something off, 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.760 but never wanted to leave the huddle. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.120 Even Sunday, even Sunday. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.200 Right, yeah, well it's more than once, you know, you 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.599 look at the full picture of his season. 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:17.240 He's done a great job. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.039 Field's played for the first time in thirty five days, 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.320 with that dislocated thumb. He says he's going to keep 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.800 it taped the rest of the season, just to be safe. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.400 At the podium on Wednesday, up at Hallis Hall talked 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.560 about a couple of things. A one, if the pressure 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.920 that Brian Flores brings at the line of scrimmage will 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.080 affect his ability to run on the edges like he's 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.240 been apt to do. I still think the middle of 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.160 the field man. A couple of those against Detroit and 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.000 several last season some of his biggest runs he exploded 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.320 off off a guard or a tackle and it opened 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.000 up and he was gone down the middle of the field. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.320 If that will be complicated at all, Here's the quote 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:54.640 from Justin at the podium. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.640 If they bring all out, yeah, I mean you really 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.800 don't have anywhere to go because you got your your 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.200 outnumbered and protection. You know, that's when you got to 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.320 get the ball out quick. So that's how you combat that. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:04.920 But yeah, when they bring their all out covers, you're 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.120 a pressure then, I mean, yeah, you're not gonna likes 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.280 you just completely out athlete. You know, the d N 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.440 set them up somewhere one way or the other, but 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.360 not really looking you know, covers zero. That's not really 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.720 answer to beat that is, try to scramble and stuff around. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.760 You just want to get the ball out quick and 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.320 you know, let the playmakers make plays and work for you. 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.599 So, as disappointing as it was in Detroit, are you 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.240 excited to have a primetime opportunity to kind of show 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:29.680 that that's not who you guys are. 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:30.520 Uh? 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.240 I think for the most part we showed who we were, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.400 you know, except until the end of the game. But 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.279 you know, focus on finishing better and you know, finishing 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:39.760 out the game with it when it counts, and you know, 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.440 when a drive comes up, you know, making that big 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.919 play when it matters. But I mean, yeah, we're definitely 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.200 excited for this opportunity. You know, the Vikings that they've 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.960 been playing, you know, great fast past few weeks. So 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.039 definitely excited for the opportunity. We get to have a 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:55.680 Monday night and get to go out. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.680 There and bawl out and so talk about that because 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.919 do you see that field when it opens up up 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.040 the middle, he should just go because it's a lot 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:05.599 of green grass you have. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.920 But Brian floores very creatively with his defensive scheming. He 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.520 doesn't allow open lanes, even if he's blitzing from the 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:14.760 inside or outside. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.040 So it's more. 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.680 Of how quickly can you get the ball out of 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.840 your hands downfield, and you have backs that are good receivers, 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.520 you have a good tight end that's a receiver, and 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.840 you have great wide receivers. So the immediacy of the 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.720 ball out of your hand is going to dictate the 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.360 way bliand Brian Floores runs a screen. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:35.880 It runs his scheme. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:41.000 If you become vulnerable to protection at the line of 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.560 scrimmage and the offensive line has has some uncertainty, the 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.880 crowd noise is effective, and then they set that outer 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.720 edge that they don't give just an escapability. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:53.520 It's the type. 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.040 Of game plan that Brian Floores has been as successful 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.800 as he's been in some of the biggest games against 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:01.200 some of the best quarterbacks. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.400 But Justin, uniquely. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.240 Enough, he has the type of talent that if they 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.720 bring a blitz and he makes one guy miss that 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.840 he can be gone. If he reads the hot read 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.520 during the cadence, it can be a really big play. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.480 So there's a lot of ways that Justin can counter 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.800 act the blitzing of Brian Flores in. One of them 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.400 is is his supreme athleticism. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.160 Now, this is something that I liked with. Justin had 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.400 to say. He was very confident about his deep ball. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.120 You it's almost taking the words out of your mouth. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.320 You've been saying it all year. We're gonna hear it 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.840 from Rix Bielman here in a moment about Justin's deep ball. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:39.160 He's very proud of it. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.400 I mean, to be honest, I feel like deep balls 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.520 just in general. I feel like that's kind of what 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.280 I do best. To be honest with you, I think 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:50.160 I throw the ball down the field exceptionally. I feel like, 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.240 you know, it's one of my strengths. And you know, 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.320 I've been doing it since high school college, so you know, 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.359 I think it's one thing that I do best, and 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.280 you know, one thing that I think we're like to 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.080 keep doing and you know, get to more. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:03.240 So. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.960 Yeah, And so I think it's important that he own that. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.559 He said at the podium, this is what I do best. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.040 This is what I think I do best. A lot 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.440 of folks think that Justin Field's best trade his run 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.560 on the football, but I like to say he does 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.079 both of those things well, and now it's everything else 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.480 in between that can round out his play. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.160 So the two things about deep ball. If you provide 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.480 the protection for him, like in the Commander's game, he 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.200 shows that he has small window of opportunities that he 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.080 can take advantage of to give the receiver or an 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.880 opportunity to make a catch. If he reads well inside 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.840 the pocket and is able to step up field without 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.640 crossing the line of scrimmage, he's got downfield accuracy that 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.880 is as good as anybody in the league. So it's 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.640 the things where and when and how you want to 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:57.600 make that longer throw. And like I said, he can 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.960 compliment protection or he can stay up in the pocket 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:02.760 and still make the great throw. 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.160 We have brought you by Blue Cross Blue Shield for 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.160 all your journeys ahead, go with a partner who's been 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.120 on your team from the beginning, the one members and 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.800 communities have trusted for over eighty five years. 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I've 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.800 seen him at the combine and he loves the draft. 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.240 He's been diving into it. We talked about many different 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.080 topics for a good half hour. Here's our conversation with 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.240 Rix Bielman Rick. How you doing? The former NFL Executive 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.800 of the Year, the Masson, Ohio native, the siu alum, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.880 the former Bears, Dolphins, Viking executive, and now Big Tom. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.040 He is all things media. You've got like half a 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:05.240 dozen jobs right now. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:06.280 I like it. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.840 Trying to make it living, Yeah, no, I'm trying to 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.160 live the life you guys have always that I've always 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:12.560 dreamed of that you guys live. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.679 So this is quite the lifestyle. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.560 You know. Can you sum up where you're working? Actually, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.960 because a lot of folks if they want to see 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.880 your work, because you do great job, great job analyzing 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.199 the NFL and also always with an eye on towards 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.880 the NFL Draft, which the scout in you you can't escape, right. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.800 No, No, I'm doing a lot of work for CBS 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:36.240 and CBS HQ on the weekends and then have a 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.600 with the First Pick podcast and it's all draft related, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.760 talk a lot about the Bears and what should they 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.839 do with their picks this year as a season unfolds. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.600 And we do that every Tuesday and Thursday on with 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:54.240 the First Pick, doing a lot of serious XM radio hosted. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.720 Saturday nights, I do a show with zig Ficasi getting 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.800 the previews on the game games coming up, some stuff 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.079 with a thirty third team, and about three or four 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.280 other side jobs. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.000 You know, Rick, the thirty third Team I was interested 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.840 in because I really enjoy your contributions. So all of 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.720 us are kind of used to talking about football and 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.800 it comes easy to us. But when you're sitting down 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.760 behind a computer and now you're starting to write, however 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.679 long the articles have a tendency to be Is it 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.200 more difficult to write or is the writing part just 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.520 as easy as the talking. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.640 The writing part is the reason why I didn't go 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:38.920 into English literalgy. I can write a report on a 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:43.520 player with these but trying to make that sound halfway. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:48.160 I'm not going to win any Politzer Prize with my writings. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.600 They do a great job with the editors, trying to 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:54.840 make a chicken salad out of chicken crap is what 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.400 they say in the business as I learned, so but 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:58.600 they do a great job. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:12:59.920 It's just being. 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.160 Able to express your thoughts and doing it in words 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.800 is a lot easier because we all do that, but 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.559 when you have to actually sit down there and write it, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.640 it makes it a totally different ballgame. It's getting easier 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.160 the more you do it. But it's just like when 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.120 you watch tape on a player and then you write 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.040 up that report. Well, you can do it at a 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.080 blink of the eye now. I remember the first player 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.240 that I wrote up was Major Harris, a quarterback at 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.439 West Virginia, and it took me about two and a 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.880 half three hours to write that one report, which I said, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.040 We're going to have a long career if I can't 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.800 figure out how to do this a lot quicker because 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:38.640 there's a lot more than one guy I have to 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.600 write up. But I'm finding that out that the articles 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:47.280 are becoming easier to write. Although I would say that 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.240 I don't know if I'll ever be a newspaperman and 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:55.080 writing articles or editorials, especially if I don't have the 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.640 supporting cast around me that the thirty thirteen provides. 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:04.880 Rick, is each position equally difficult to evaluate? Or is 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.280 there a position that may be a little bit more 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:11.840 difficult to evaluate then you know all the other positions 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.080 you're looking at at. 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:15.280 You know it depends. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.800 You got to say, the quarterbacks, for anybody's the most 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.440 difficult and the hardest one to predict on who. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.479 Will have success or not have success. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.640 I would say probably the most film you have to 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.240 watch to get a true feel is on a defensive 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.280 safety or a defensive back because they're not involved in 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.480 the play every snap. When you watch the Tom Fairs, 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.280 they're hitting someone every snap on the offensive line or 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.680 defensive linement that you're watching, so you can get a 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.480 pretty good sense or running back with all the touches. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.680 But it's the quarterback that's the most difficult to evaluate 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.600 because you're trying to project a college offense and call 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.240 it what he's doing at the collegiate level to what's 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:01.800 going to produce or you know, at the NFL level. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.840 But watching a safety, I mean, you take seven or 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.960 eight games before you really figure out because they get 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.520 limited opportunities in a game. They're not going to get 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.920 the ball thrown to them every snap. You got to 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.200 figure out if they can run support the angles and 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:19.080 run support when they do get opportunities and coverage, which 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.440 comes sometimes few and far between, to get a true 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.840 field of what they're going to be projected at the 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:25.520 next level. 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.680 Rick, That's why I whiffed in the two thousand draft. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.760 When I was watching tapes that you and George Peyton, 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.400 now the general manager of the Broncos. You're a good friend, 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.960 worked with him all those years at Minnesota, and I 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.920 was looking at safeties that year and George says, well, 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.000 who do you like? And I said, well, here it 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:48.600 is Rogers Beckett San Diego State. And he goes, okay, 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.320 and he slides me Mike Brown. He goes, I think 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.280 you gotta watch this. I already watched it. I said, 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.320 I don't know, it's just it looks a little slow 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.920 out there. Well, Rogers beck It didn't have a very 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.680 good career. And Mike Brown is one of my favorite 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.560 bears of all time, and I would love to watch 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.600 him play no matter what Mike Brown was all about 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:13.000 angles and attitude and stubbornness and working his tail off 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.040 and just a outstanding Chicago Bear. I'm sure as a 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.000 scout and a general manager, that makes you laugh when 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.800 a guy like me is trying to evaluate NFL talent, No. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.080 Because you at least giving efforts. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.400 Some of the guys to talk about NFL talent don't 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:28.480 even watch the tape. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.880 I mean, we're all wrong. I've been wrong, George has 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:31.400 been wrong. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.160 So but at least if you're doing the work, you 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.080 respect the opinion. You may not agree with the opinion, 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.240 but at least you're respected. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:40.320 Hey, Rick, Jeff. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.720 Even back remember when I was with the Bears as 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.400 the pro director, one of my favorite things to do 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.080 was to come on your pregame show and give the 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.560 advanced scouting report. That's where I finally figured out that 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.760 one day, when I'm done working in this executive office BS, 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:01.360 that I might enjoy doing the media. Was all because 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.240 of Jeff Jonah giving me my first shot in front 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:05.080 of a microphone. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.520 Well, you did a great job, and I was honored 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.040 to have you guys on, and you guys gave me 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.240 a lot of access and you trusted me, and I 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.080 always have appreciated that. 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:15.000 So do you guys. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.639 Still use that little number you remember walking to the 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:19.919 trailer before the games? 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.960 Yep, No, that is long gone. That's the previous radio station. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.120 And now we're on ESPN Chicago, so it's a whole 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.440 different ballgame. Hey, you mentioned quarterbacks, and I just talked 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.520 about this with Tommy last week on our podcast. Here 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:39.120 and teams fall all over themselves. They mortgage the future, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.920 they make deals, they shred their roster just to move 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:44.480 up to get a guy that they hope is going 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.600 to be the guy. Every team in the league has 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:53.160 basically done it, with rare exception. It's become such such 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.120 a hard task it seems to get harder as opposed 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.879 to easier. I know that you are doing this draft, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.399 and I think you've put on thirty third team or 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.479 maybe it was CBS, I can't remember. Now, you think 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.320 there's eighteen draftable quarterbacks coming out of this draft, which 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.879 is to me a very very high number. I'm sure 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.120 it may whittle down as time goes on, or maybe 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.320 it'll increase when there's a dark horse. Do you agree 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:21.119 with my assessment that it's becoming more and more difficult 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.159 and more and more challenging, and more and more risky 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:24.560 as opposed to the round. 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.800 Yeah, I think it's always been more and more difficult, 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.880 more and more challenging, because if anyone had the answer 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.840 to the burning Bush question, there wouldn't probably be as 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.480 many bus and including some of the bus I had 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.080 trying to select a quarterback during my tenure. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:46.439 But I think that everybody is trying to find an edge. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:50.600 I know the evaluation of a quarterback has changed so 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.720 much on trying to apply analytics to it, trying to 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.880 do this or that, trying to figure out what ticks, 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.680 you know, because to me, you can see the physical ability, 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.360