1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. Okay, I'm gonna tell you 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: two words, and I don't want you to be afraid. 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson. There, I got it out. It kind of 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: stuck in my throat like a chicken bone, but I 5 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: did get it out. Why is it important? Because my 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: friend and colleague Laura Ingle has just completed an incredible, 7 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: incredible coverage of Scott Peterson. It's called The Reporter's Notebook, 8 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: The Scott Peterson Case. It's now streaming on Fox Nation. 9 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: And with me right now is Laura Ingle. Laura, thank 10 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: you for being with us. Nancy, thank you so much. 11 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: I mean, talk about timing. This is twenty years that 12 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: Lacy Peterson went missing last Christmas December twenty fourth, two 13 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: thousand and two. We are taking a look back, and 14 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: as I was getting ready to come on your show, 15 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: I was having the memory of being on TV with 16 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: you in Modesto when Scott Peterson was just under suspicion 17 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: at that point when he was about to have a 18 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: preliminary hearing you and I on TV just about twenty 19 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: years ago talking about this. You know what? I remember 20 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: that too? Is it funny? Laura? You have covered so 21 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: many cases, and you have an encyclopedic institutional memory of 22 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: so much of it. In many cases, I can remember 23 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,279 Speaker 1: where I was at a certain moment when I learned 24 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: a particular fact. The Scott Peterson case, from the very beginning, 25 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: it was all wrong, the way he was acting, he 26 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: was doing what he wasn't doing. But I remember distinctly, 27 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Laura Engele, I it was cold outside, and I was 28 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: in New York, and I walked into the lobby of 29 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: my apartment building and I was looking at emails, and 30 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: somebody sent me before it was released, the picture of 31 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson with his paw on Amber Fry's reariend in 32 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: that red satin dress. I'm like stop. I sat down 33 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: right there and I started calling and emailing. I cannot 34 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: believe this guy while his wife's feet are swollen up. 35 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: Remember she had to go to her little Christmas party 36 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: all by herself while he was out with Amber Fry, 37 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: who thought he was single. Who thought this was Scott 38 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Peterson's first Christmas without his wife because he was a widow. 39 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: I went bersark because there it was there was a 40 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: smoking Yes, now tell me what you learned. So here's 41 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: what we did. Nancy so This is you know, a 42 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: twenty year look back when when you have an anniversary, 43 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: as you will with something like this, the case this large, 44 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: you know, we felt it was appropriate to just kind 45 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: of stop for a second and look back at not 46 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: only the case. Because I covered this case from beginning 47 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: to end, I actually moved. I was a radio reporter 48 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, which we talked about in the special, 49 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: and I was down in LA when the story broke 50 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: and all those moments that you remember, right, you remember 51 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: where you were. I remember hearing about a missing pregnant 52 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: woman in Modesto. I'm from Sacramento, so this is very 53 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: close to my hometown. And I went to my news 54 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: director and I said, we've got to go cover this. Look, 55 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: we need to help. That's always, you know, the badge 56 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: of a reporter is that you can actually help. And 57 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: with your shows too, that's why you do what you do. 58 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: In part, you get these stories out there so you 59 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: can help. You can put some exposure to a story, 60 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: to something that's unsolved. Wanted to do that, so off 61 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: we went up to Medesto when Scott Peterson was still 62 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, walking around here and there with a flyer y, 63 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, walking around. He kept to himself a lot 64 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: lies to Amber. Go ahead, as as the story goes, 65 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: and as the family will tell you. His family will 66 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: tell you that everybody behaves differently, people grieve differently, so 67 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: that that is something that we talked about in the special. 68 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: I have actually just say that Jackie Saidney. Did she 69 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: actually just say everybody gries differently? I think she did. 70 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: Did you say and that's a quote? Okay, when we're 71 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: quoting somebody grief being differently, I don't know does that 72 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: include calling your mistress in lying about where you are, 73 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: apportaining you're in Paris while you're really at your wife's 74 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: vigil where you don't say anything because you don't want 75 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: to be on TV and get caught. Right, So, so 76 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: I spoke to and if you guys know the story, 77 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: anybody listening or anybody that is digging into this for 78 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: the first time, if you know this story, you know 79 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: that Scott Peterson's sister in law, Janie, has been leading 80 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: the charge for two decades now to try and exonerate 81 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: her brother in law. That that family does believe that 82 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: he did not do it. Obviously, police prosecution Juror's family 83 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: on Lacy's side. I'll believe he did it and he has. 84 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: You know, he was sentenced to death. His death sentence 85 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: was overturned. He is serving life in prison without the 86 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: possibility of parole. I went to his prison this actually 87 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: during Christmas break. I was I was unable to get 88 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: into Mule Creek State Prison. He's really being housed. Question 89 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: miss Lady that he did now, sorry, go, So he's on. 90 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: So what's interesting is he goes from San Quentin when 91 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: his death sentence is over earned and that was that 92 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: happened by the California Supreme Court twenty twenty one. His 93 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: death sentence is overturned, so he goes to Mule Creek 94 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: State Prison where he is now serving his life without roll. 95 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: It's on a two it's on a two lane road 96 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: in the middle of what used to be Gold Country. 97 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: It's on this dusty two lane road by a town 98 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: named Ione, and that is where he will be. But 99 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: in the meantime, there are appeals, Nancy, we all know 100 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: that is everybody listening knows that there is an appeal process. 101 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: So that was one of the things we wanted to do. 102 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk about where we are now twenty years later. Yeah, 103 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: because I wanted to break him, and I didn't want 104 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: to interrupt you because I don't like lookbacks. I don't 105 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: like to look back and what's already happened. I like 106 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: to look forward. I like to be in the now 107 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: and looking forward because I can't change a darn thing 108 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: about what's already happened. I can't only learn from mistakes 109 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: or learn from history. So I'm very, very curious about 110 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: what Scott Peterson's family. And I gotta give credit to 111 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: Jamie Peterson. She's never given up. I don't agree with 112 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: anything she says, but she's loyal. She is loyal. So 113 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: I gotta give Jamie Peterson that you know, and you 114 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: will see in our special her evidence Room. I flew 115 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: to San Diego to see her, and she did. I'm 116 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: looking at you with her right now in her evidence room. 117 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking right at it. She's got these bulletin boards 118 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: that she's put together, and she actually used to be 119 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: just one. Now it expands to three different boards that 120 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 1: circle the room, that go over every single minute of 121 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: when Lacy was last heard from to the end of 122 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: the story, and the burglary across the street, which she's 123 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: still to this day believes and so got Peterson's family 124 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: had something to do. I was Lacy's disappearent question the 125 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: burglars that the cops spoke to and interviewed dose burglars. 126 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: That's correct. Okay. Did you also, in addition to speaking 127 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: to Jamie Peterson and seeing her war room as it were, 128 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: did you speak to Al Brocchini, who worked the case 129 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 1: for the state. I sure did, And you know, Nancy 130 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: was so interesting because as somebody who sat in that 131 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: courtroom every single day of this trial and the sentencing. 132 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: And remember, I moved to Redwood City. I got an 133 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: apartment and I moved in across the street from the 134 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: courthouse in jail, so I could be there every single 135 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: minute of this trial. And that's exactly what I did. 136 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: And I never had a chance to talk to al 137 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: Brocchini until It's a great guy opportunity he was. He 138 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: was so kind to give us his time. He came 139 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: and he met me for this special We went over everything, 140 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: and but they're they're right. So I go and I 141 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: talked to Jamie Peterson, who was convinced that the burglary 142 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: had something to do with it, and so I spoke 143 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: to out right say the Broker's killed or kidnapped Lacy. 144 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: She believes that her something essentially, yes, essentially there is. 145 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: Her theory is that these two guys, Stephen Todd and 146 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: Glenn Pearce, who were arrested polygrafted, confessed to the burglary, 147 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: served time, and had alibis confirmed. Um. She does still 148 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: believe that they had something to do with it, because 149 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: there were more than these two guys present. According to 150 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: neighbor Diane Jackson, who drove by on the twenty fourth, said, 151 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: I saw a van with several men and the safe 152 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: was on the lawn. You know, this is before we 153 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: know that Lacy is missing, Before anything happens, there's something 154 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: else going on across the street. So there's a witness 155 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: who says that there were other men there. Have you 156 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: ever watched and that witched? I sure have. I didn't 157 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: you know about Gladys Kravitz? Yes? Yeah, Okay, they think 158 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: she sees things her right. Okay, So this woman says 159 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: there were more than two burglars in the van, and therefore, 160 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: what am I supposed? Let's follow that through, Laura Angle, 161 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: you're the investigative reporter. Let's follow that through to its 162 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: natural conclusion. So though, what am I supposed to believe? 163 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: That they burrow are split up and some of them 164 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: killed Lycy and some of them didn't. Well, there are 165 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: questions she has, questions Jannie Peterson does about the investigative 166 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: measures that were taken about this burglary, because remember when 167 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: the guys get caught. The Medina, the Medina family, the 168 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: family across the street, right the Medina's leave. The Medina's 169 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: leave for Christmas Eve to go visit family. They leave 170 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: at ten thirty am on December twenty fourth. They return 171 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: at four twenty pm on December twenty six. They walk in, 172 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: Holy cow, we've been we've been burglarized on All they 173 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: have to do is walk across the street because the 174 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: world is there across the street. At the Peterson's investigating 175 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Lassie's disappearance, they say, we have had our house has 176 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: been hit. Everything is upside down. And then they do 177 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: track down the burglars, and the burglars say, yeah, we did, 178 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: we did the deed. On the twenty seven, They're like, well, 179 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: that's not possible, because doesn't Diane Jackson, the neighbor report 180 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: that she saw three men, three men only, not a gang, 181 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: three men loading a safe into a van in front 182 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: of the Medina home that morning Laci went missing. Isn't 183 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: that her theory? Yes, that's correct. Dianne Jackson to demand 184 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: three men and three men and cobs track down two guys. 185 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: Is that correct, that's correct, and they confess to the burglary. 186 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: They took a polygraph and the police say that they 187 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: found alibis. Is that correct? That's correct? But there is 188 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: where is this? There's a third person, maybe more. We 189 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: don't know who else might have been in the van, 190 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: a guy named Mark. There was an Indian male, a 191 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: man with a six six six tattoo, possibly involved. Five 192 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: suspects to arrest, that's the question. And then there's you know, 193 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: not to get too deep in the weeds, but there's 194 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: the story of a police lieutenant who was working at 195 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: a jail who overheard a conversation of Stephen Todd allegedly 196 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: that he had a conversation with a family member, and 197 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: he tells somebody on the phone. According to this lieutenant, 198 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: that he heard an inmate talking with his brother who 199 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: said Lacy witnessed the break in. The theory is that 200 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: she stumbles across the burglary. She maybe doesn't even confront them. 201 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: She confronts them. She doesn't confront them, but she's there. 202 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: They panic, they do something, and do something. Okay, why 203 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: didn't they kill Diane Jackson? He was driving. He's use right. 204 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: She's also a neighbor that they can find. But I 205 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: write so, I don't know if you have it handy 206 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: the detective Brocchini and I spoke to Detective Bueller about this. 207 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: I asked ALBERKINI do you believe there is any chance 208 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: anyway anyhow that burglary across the street had anything to do? 209 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Was there anything that was missed? If you have that sound, 210 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: you can play that. You know what. As a matter 211 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: of fact, Laura Engle, we do take a listen. Is 212 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: there a chance that the burglary across the street from 213 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: Scott Lucy's house had anything to do with her disappearance? 214 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: No way, we'd know. They can't keep a secret. It 215 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: ain't like that. Those guys they polygraphed, they confessed, they 216 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: went to jail, They gave us all their info. We 217 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: confirmed their alibis no chance that she came out to 218 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: walk the dog, she saw what was going on, went 219 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: over and said, hey, what are you guys doing? Confronted 220 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: the burglars. She wasn't even there. She was already goneless guy. 221 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: What don't you have to say to those who are 222 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: out there currently, including Scott Peterson's family, who say that 223 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: the Medina burglary was connected to the disappearance of Lacy. 224 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: When it comes to the burglary, that was probably the 225 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: most thoroughly investigated burglary that had ever been done at 226 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: Medesto Police Department up to that point, Prime Stories with 227 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Is there a chance that the burglary across 228 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: the street from scottan Lacy's house had anything to do 229 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: with her disappearance? No way, we'd know. They can't keep 230 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: a secret. It ain't like that. Those guys they polygraphed, 231 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: they confessed, they went to jail, they gave us all 232 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: their info. We confirmed their alibis no chance that she 233 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: came out to walk the dog, she saw what was 234 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: going on, went over and said, hey, what are you 235 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: guys doing, confronted the burglars. She wasn't even there. She 236 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: was already goneless guy. What don't you have to say 237 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: to those who are out there currently, including Scott Peterson's family, 238 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: who say that the Medina burglary was connected to the 239 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: disappearance of Lacy. When it comes to the burglary, that 240 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: was probably the most thoroughly investigated burglary that had ever 241 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: been done at Modesto Police Department up to that point. 242 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: Alic's hear more to my friend and colleague, Detective Brokenni 243 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: and our cut four. I think she was killed on 244 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: the twenty fourth in the morning, and I think it 245 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: was a soft kill. If you look at her bed, 246 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: he's either behind her or in front of her, bags 247 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: her or just strangles her and she scratches them. He 248 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: rolls her up in the blue tarp, puts her in 249 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: the truck. Somebody sees him. Now he's got to put 250 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: something else in the truck some umbrellas, make sure it's 251 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: in a blue tarp, and then takes her to the shop. 252 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: There ain't nobody there. It's an industrial area. There ain't 253 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: houses around. Can I ask you a question, Laura Ingle, 254 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: You've got so much more to tell me, guys, let 255 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: me tell you again. This is called Reporters and Notebook, 256 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: the Scott Peterson story or trial case. Thank you so, 257 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: Reporter's notebook the Scott Peterson Case, And it's streaming on 258 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: Fox Nation right now, and it's pretty incredible. And this 259 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: is all Laura Ingle's idea and she has executed it incredibly. 260 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: When you're talking to Janie Peterson and you're asking her 261 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: about facts, what was her theory about why her brother 262 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: in law, Scott Peterson places himself at the scene of 263 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: the disposal of Lacy and Connor, his wife an unborn 264 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: baby boy on the day they were dumb there and 265 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: went missing the marina. Well, she said that he had 266 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: this boat and he wanted to simply get it in 267 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: the water and take it out for a spin. And 268 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: that's really it. But what her point of contention is 269 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: about the fact that they do you remember, I mean 270 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: I remember so well the police coming out and saying, 271 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: we need to verify Lacy Peterson's husband's alibi. Here's his truck, 272 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: here's his boat. If anybody has seen the truck in 273 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: the boat, please contact the Medesto Police Department, because he 274 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: says he was there on the twenty fourth. Now, if 275 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: you're Jamie Peterson and you're watching this and you're the 276 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: Peterson family, you're thinking, well, they just gave away his alibi. 277 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: So if somebody did have Lacy or the body. Then 278 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: they've given away, you know, they've given a very easy 279 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: way to frame this guy. But the body in the 280 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: water where this guy said he was that day, Now, 281 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: she had a very detailed timeline that we go over 282 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: in our post. Okay, wait, wait, wait again again, Laura Ingle, 283 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: you're going warp speed. Let's take what you just said. 284 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: You're quoting Jamie Peterson, the sister in law, through to 285 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: its logical conclusions. So what her theory is regarding the 286 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: marina is that the real killer sees where cops have said, hey, 287 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: if any of you know anything about this boat and 288 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: this truck being at this marina, tell us. So her 289 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: theory is that the real killer saw that and heard 290 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: it and went wow, instead of burying her out in 291 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: the woods, I'm going to go and risk getting caught 292 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: and taking her body and I'm going to dump it 293 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: at them righty, to make it look why he did it. 294 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: Is that the theory that is one of the possible things. Okay, 295 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: all right? Yes? And can I ask if you questioned 296 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: Janie Peterson on her brother's clairvoyant abilities, telling that Amber 297 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: Fry and this is well before Lacy was murdered, telling 298 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: Amber Fry that this would be his first Christmas as 299 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: a widower, and then we talked he was right, So 300 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: you know that was listen. You know, we sat down 301 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: and we talked about Thought Peterson's infidelity, and he can't 302 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: defend that. I don't care he's sleeping with Laura Angele 303 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: don't care. I care about him admitting that this would 304 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: be the first Christmas that his wife was dead, and 305 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: then lo and behold a few days later it was 306 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: so he was clearly sleeping with whoever he can manage 307 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: to convince it up in the bed with him. That's 308 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: his problem. My question is about his clairvoyance. How did 309 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: he somehow know look into his Chris Lacy would be 310 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: dead by Christmas. Now, I'm going to say, I don't 311 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: think he did say this was going to be my 312 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: first Christmas without my wife. He did, in my interpretation 313 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: of what he told Amber Fry, imply that she was dead. 314 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever used the words she's 315 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: dead and agreed and agreed and agreed. But the point 316 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: is is that Janey can't defend that part. And she says, 317 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, my brother and my brother in law had 318 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: a problem with women. Was sleeping with women and making 319 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: up stories, and you know she can't defend that, but 320 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: she says the lies that were told in regards to 321 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: what his marital status was where you know, all of 322 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: that can't be defended, but there are no lies when 323 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: it comes to the murder. She said, there are a 324 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: fair lies, but there's no murder lies. Time stories with 325 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Can I just give you a quote by 326 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: Albrokenny that you interviewed in depth. According to Brokenny detective 327 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: albro Kenny from a STPD Peterson tall Amber Fry quote, 328 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: he had lost his wife and this would be his 329 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: first holiday without his wife. The detective said he later 330 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: learned Scott Peterson called Fry daily starting Christmas Day, the 331 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: day after Lacy disappeared, his first holiday without his wife. 332 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: That's from Brokenny. Two weeks before his wife was murdered, 333 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson told his mistress his wife was already dead 334 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: and that he was about to spend his first Christmas 335 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: without her, says the lead detective in the case. That 336 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: was his testimony at trial, and I'm quoting that's what 337 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: he said. Well, you're right, I'm just remembering the conversation. 338 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: I had with Jennie. We didn't hear, we didn't talk 339 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: about the word dead, but she did say that she 340 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: just couldn't defend the affair part. But in terms of 341 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: the murder, he didn't do it. You did an extensive investigation, 342 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: and I don't want to call it an anniversary, but 343 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: you're not just marking the time when Lacy left this 344 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: earth and Peterson became a suspect and went to trial. 345 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: You actually reinvestigate quite a bit of it yourself, hopefully 346 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: putting some of the fires out that have arisen over time. 347 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: What was your biggest takeaway? Laura? And guys, I'm talking 348 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: to my friend and colleague Laura ingle On about her 349 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: incredible new venture reporters know, but the Scott Peterson case 350 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: is streaming right now on five station. I've seen it 351 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: and I'm going to watch it again because there's so 352 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: much information in it. I couldn't really digest it all 353 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: at once. But what's your big takeaway, Laura? I think 354 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: one of the big takeaways is the Lacy siding, the 355 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: investigative measures, and I do believe that it is not 356 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: just the Medesto Police Department, It was the Santa Claus 357 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: County District Attorney's office as well. And there's this big, 358 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: huge question where all the Lacey sidings followed up on 359 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: where they all investigated. And there's this couple in Madesto. 360 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: They still lived just a few blocks away from where 361 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: Scott and Lacy Peterson lived on Covina. I went and 362 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: spoke to them, Homer and Sue Maldonado. They claim that 363 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: they spoke to the police. They called in a tip. 364 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: He swears to this day, twenty years later, that he 365 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: saw Lacy Peterson in the window of time. Asked thought 366 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: Peterson had already left for the marina, and about in 367 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: that there's this critical thirty minute window, right, so right 368 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: around that time, he swears that he saw Lacy Peterson 369 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: struggling with the dog away. Didn't they come forward at trial, 370 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: did not testify it. Did Garrigus bring that up that 371 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: witnesses saw her after Peterson took her away, took her 372 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: bodie away. I don't even remember that they had like 373 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: a pregnant person lineup they had incredibly, there were multiple 374 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: pregnant women with dark hair with golden retrievers, one even 375 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: with a name of Mackenzie, the same name as the 376 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: Peterson all that fight, you know, and and this was 377 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: somebody that worked for law enforcement and it had recently 378 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: received threats. So could it be that Lacey was mistaken 379 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: for that person that was investigated. And so when when 380 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: some people say the Medespo police never called me back 381 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: to Santa Claus County d and I asked Brocchini about that, 382 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: he said, we had an entire team of Lacy Peterson's 383 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: siding passports, if you will, of people that went around 384 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: and followed up on those sidings. So Brocchini tells me 385 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: that every Lacy's siding that was relevant was followed up on. 386 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: Homer Maldonado, who I talked to, told me they never they, 387 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: meaning police or any authority, came back and spoke to 388 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: him and we talked about what he says he saw 389 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: that morning. He says that he saw a woman with 390 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: dark hair who matches Lacy's description perfectly, with the exact 391 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: same dog, struggling with the dog. And that conversation is 392 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: in our special Reporter's notebook, and that is that's been 393 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: a big contention of were all of those sidings followed 394 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: up on? Detends on who you talked to. Jamie will 395 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: tell you they all were not. Brocchini will tell Detective 396 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: Brocchini will tell you the ones. We had a team 397 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: of people that were assigned to that. And Brocchini, you know, 398 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: there were so many people that said throughout this trial 399 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: that throughout this case an investigation that investigators rod in 400 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: on Scott and we know that that happens, right, They 401 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: always looked at the husband or the boyfriend first. And 402 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: Brocchini told me, and he said it on the stand, 403 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: he said, my job was to clear Scott. My job 404 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: was we wanted to clear him so that we could 405 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: move on, he said. And I just could never do that. 406 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: I just couldn't get there. Guys with me is Laura Ingle. 407 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: You see here all the time on Fox News, and 408 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: now she is bringing this to you for all of 409 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: you you that still have lingering questions regarding Scott Peterson's 410 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: guilt or innocence. Laura Ingle has presented Reporter's notebook. The 411 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson Case is streaming right now on Fox Nation 412 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: and it's incredible, just like you, Laura, Thank you for 413 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: being with us. By Buddy