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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in and doing a show with me.

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Speaker 1: Those are gone. Now I don't think the buys start yet.

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Speaker 1: is that? Like? Is that like when your kids were

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Speaker 1: we're not going to make the playoffs. Guys take it

427
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Speaker 1: out of gear, they disappear. Self preservation, Yeah, self preservation

428
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: kicks in that's right, and that doesn't happen when a

429
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 1: guy's still got something out there for him. And that's

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Speaker 1: a huge I know it's it makes the guys sound

431
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Speaker 1: like they're like they're not hard workers. Listen, this game

432
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 1: is built to wear you out and break you down

433
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Speaker 1: and just tear you down, and it does does that

434
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Speaker 1: for a lot of guys. And eventually that's why most

435
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Speaker 1: guys quit, is because they just can't dredge up the

436
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Speaker 1: passion to get ready to play. Let me ask you this.

437
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Speaker 1: You you live through the I guess, the real big

438
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Speaker 1: changing landscape of free agency in the NFL. You live

439
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Speaker 1: through Plan B to to open free agency, the Reggie

440
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Speaker 1: White lawsuit, all those kinds of things. Did you ever

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Speaker 1: think to yourself after it be came, hey we can

442
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Speaker 1: be free agents? I really want to get there? Or

443
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Speaker 1: how much because you stayed here your whole career? Or

444
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: was it I don't really want to play anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me. They put me on Play

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Speaker 1: and B A couple of times I didn't want to leave.

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Speaker 1: I knew. Can you explain playing B to some of

448
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Speaker 1: our listeners who probably might be a little bit young? Club?

449
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Speaker 1: The club could protect a certain number of players and

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Speaker 1: they were not free agents. They could make other players

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Speaker 1: available as free agents, um, even if they were under contract.

452
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Actually, it's like the NHL

453
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Speaker 1: Expansion Draft. Your contract had to be up, I guess,

454
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Speaker 1: but but it's it's it's like the NHL Expansion Raft.

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Speaker 1: You had certain number players you can protect. But you're

456
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Speaker 1: right your contract. If your contract was up, that you

457
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: were still Yes, you were still a part of the

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Speaker 1: team unless they said, well anyway, that's right. So but

459
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Speaker 1: but when that happened, but then you didn't carry you

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Speaker 1: on to to had a chance to match any offer

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Speaker 1: you got. There you go. So so you were sort

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Speaker 1: of a free Did you ever think to yourself, I

463
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Speaker 1: kind of like to see what this free agency stuff isn't? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I mean yeah, I mean I would talk to

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Speaker 1: teams or stuff. But because of my situation and the

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Speaker 1: time that free agency happened, teams, yeah, I wasn't high

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Speaker 1: on the list of priority. But that still goes back

468
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Speaker 1: to what you said. It's the culture. You also, I

469
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Speaker 1: knew you liked it here. I knew where my bread

470
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Speaker 1: was buttered, Marvel loved special teams. I knew I had

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Speaker 1: a spot here if I go to someplace else, those

472
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Speaker 1: those guys didn't have anything invested in me except what

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Speaker 1: was on the paper. I felt I had more than

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Speaker 1: that here, And you know, I was. I've always been

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Speaker 1: one that likes security, yeah, and stability a little bit

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Speaker 1: more than most guys do. And so I never really

477
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Speaker 1: wanted to leave, even though I was a plan B

478
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Speaker 1: and I took a couple of phone call like the

479
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Speaker 1: chiefs called me and stuff, but I was, you know,

480
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Speaker 1: you look ahead to the bills, and we talked about Josh.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Tremaine Steve. I I looked a little

482
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Speaker 1: while back. I did. I wrote something up on it

483
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Speaker 1: on how this you say keep the band other that

484
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Speaker 1: could be together for a little while. I mean, okay,

485
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Speaker 1: you have some free agents next year. Jerry huses one,

486
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Speaker 1: Mario Addison's another. Given the situation, they drafted a couple

487
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Speaker 1: of ends. I mean, I don't think too many people

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Speaker 1: expect them to be here beyond this year. But who knows,

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Speaker 1: Maybe Jerry is a great year and they bring him back.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But we're not talking about really a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys or big name guys. Pretty much every

492
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Speaker 1: every starter on this team for the most part, is

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Speaker 1: not only locked up for this year, but even next

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Speaker 1: year and even beyond. Like, this is a group that

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Speaker 1: there's not a ton of massaging that has to be done. Now,

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Speaker 1: you might get the guy signed a one year deal.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, let let me throw out a guy fa

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Speaker 1: Let's say he just has a monster year. You're like,

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Speaker 1: we gotta keep this guy. Now he now he becomes

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Speaker 1: a priority free agent you want to retain. But as

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Speaker 1: of right now, you look at the roster, it's really hey,

502
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Speaker 1: we're a pretty good spot here. Yeah, it is. And

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Speaker 1: that's why people, you know, pick this team get in

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Speaker 1: the division. That's why this people to pick this team

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Speaker 1: to be the team to beat the Chiefs. If there's

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Speaker 1: if there's anybody out there in the com they picked

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Speaker 1: this team, this team, maybe Cleveland, Indianapolis. A lot of

508
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: people think. I think Indianapolis is gonna take a step forward.

509
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: I think Carson Wentz is gonna be a difference for them.

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Speaker 1: I think Frank's gonna have those guys playing well, and

511
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis is gonna be there. Cleveland's gonna be there. Certainly, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, bore Baltimore has got a chance at that

513
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, so there's a handful of teams at

514
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Speaker 1: the top of the conferences. You gotta say they got

515
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Speaker 1: a shot at it. And I'm not even gonna say

516
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Speaker 1: I'd like to see Pittsburgh play before I make that decision.

517
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: They started out really well last year and couldn't keep

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Speaker 1: it together. But having said all of that, you're right.

519
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: Having this roster together says a lot. But one of

520
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: the things that makes this roster what it is is

521
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: the exact same thing that got it here. These guys

522
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: have got a fire lit under him. If you don't

523
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Speaker 1: earn it, you don't get it. We have on this show.

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Speaker 1: Brownie and I have used the example of quintin Spain

525
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 1: time and time again. Here's a guy who stayed here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo because he loved it, signed a three year deal,

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Speaker 1: took a little less money, he said, even to be

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Speaker 1: a part of this group. Wanted to be here, and great,

529
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Speaker 1: that's awesome. But he came in, he wasn't ready to play,

530
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: didn't play well, got benched and then cut. And that

531
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: was a guy who did not give up a sack

532
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen at Guard. Hard to make this roster,

533
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Speaker 1: it's hard to sustain. It's hard to play, and you

534
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: have a certain level that you have to stay at

535
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: or they're going to find someone else who can do

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Speaker 1: the job. You do not you do not get anything

537
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: handed to you. And these guys know it, and it's

538
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: been proven by guys like that. Trent Murphy inactive for

539
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Speaker 1: most of the last half of that last season, Steve

540
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: tarn Johnson lost his starting job for a week last year.

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Speaker 1: Think about that. Yeah, cam Lewis started the Chiefs game,

542
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: got hurt, Taran went back in and never gave it

543
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Speaker 1: back up. And I think I think it might have

544
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Speaker 1: been the best thing that ever happened to Taron Johnson.

545
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: He played phenomenal after that. Yeah, and at the play

546
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Speaker 1: of the year, by the way, a couple of plays

547
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Speaker 1: of the year, Yes, he picked six against Pittsburgh and

548
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Speaker 1: then obviously the and that the history. I gotta say it.

549
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Speaker 1: It was historic, that historic play he made against the

550
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens in the Divisional round of the playoffs, one

551
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: hundred one yard touchdown. One of the greatest plays in

552
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Speaker 1: Buffalo sports. But I think him, I think him knowing

553
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: he didn't start that game and seeing, hey, you know

554
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: a guy took my job. That's the kind of motivation

555
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: that says yeah nothing like you just said, nothing's given.

556
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Speaker 1: And after that he played great the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tashilarn with Sal Capaccio One Bills Live. We've got

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Speaker 1: our mail bag out. If you want to drop something

559
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Speaker 1: into it, go ahead. You can tweet at us or call.

560
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: You can give us a phone call as well at

561
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Speaker 1: eight h three oh five fifty or one eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Give us a call if

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00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: you want to talk to Sal and I on the air,

564
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: or tweet at us and we'll get your tweet on

565
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: the air. Questions for me is Sal about what's going

566
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: on with the team, anything you want to talk about.

567
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: Throw the topic out and Sal and I will give

568
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Speaker 1: it a shot. You're One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Help.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll be right back. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Lives. Chief task along with salth

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Speaker 1: Capacho here in the Syneca studio, we got I gotta

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Speaker 1: do something, um. Today is the ninety first birthday of

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Speaker 1: one Joanne Tasker. My mom turns ninety one. How about

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, Joe Anne that's awesome. My dad turns ninety

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Speaker 1: one in like a month or two. And there there's

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Speaker 1: my mom. So you remember that. Have you ever been

577
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Speaker 1: in the airport of Buffalo You get off a flight

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Speaker 1: and min I'm standing there. Yes, yeah, right, that's that's

579
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Speaker 1: me in a mask with my mom. I love it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's Joanne. Happy birthday to to Joanne. Ask

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Speaker 1: for my mom. I'm the youngest of her four sons

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Speaker 1: and I coming up in a few days. Uh, my

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Speaker 1: mom and dad will be will have been married sixty

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Speaker 1: seven years. That's amazing. Congratulation Joanne can celebrating ninety one,

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Speaker 1: and my dad on July tenth, will will celebrate his

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Speaker 1: ninety first. Dude, Mom, I'm and dad like, um, like,

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Speaker 1: did they go to Northwestern a loot to watch you play?

588
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Did they like they try to go one game a

589
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: year or something? If we ever, if we played in Purdue,

590
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: we had family. Then my mom and dad grew up

591
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: in southern Ohio, southern Illinois, so they could zip over

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Speaker 1: to the um what is it West Lafayette or whatever. No,

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00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: where's Purdue, ad, I don't know wherever wherever? And then

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Speaker 1: you're because you're from Kansas, yes, right, yes, and then

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00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: every year they make a trip to Buffalo om and Dad.

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Speaker 1: Ever since nineteen eighty six when I got picked up,

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Speaker 1: they live where they live now in Kansas, just outside

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Speaker 1: of Wichita, Kansas. And uh, my three older brothers all

599
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: live in and around the city of Wichita as well,

600
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: so I'm the only one in the family who's not

601
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: living right around there. So anyway, once a year, Gordon

602
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Speaker 1: and Joanne come up and they got to be about

603
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: eighty maybe not. I'm just like seventy five. And my

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00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 1: mom started saying this stuck give me stuff about, uh,

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00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, we might not be able to start be

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00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: coming up. It's how hard to travel because there's seventy

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00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: five right right. So that happens, and they still kind

608
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: of try and make it and they come, they come

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00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: up every year and stuff, and so then about when

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00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: they got into their mid eighties, we can't we can't

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Speaker 1: do it. We just can't come up. Every every year

612
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: my sons start having kids. They're like, oh, they're here.

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Speaker 1: I want you to make my flight on this day

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00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stay this long. And this is when

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Speaker 1: the great grandkids start showing up. They're like, make my

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Speaker 1: flight at this time and this time, and that we'll

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Speaker 1: be up there. That's awesome. And then COVID they were

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00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: they were gone. We didn't get a chance to see

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Speaker 1: him for a year, and then they just came up

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Speaker 1: for Easter. Great grandkids, how are your grandkids? Huh? How

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Speaker 1: are your grandkids? They're great, They're awesome, Yeah, they're they.

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Speaker 1: I can I'm good with I can take any number

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Speaker 1: of them and watch them. And we have six and

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Speaker 1: the other and the seventh one is imminent. Wow. I

625
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a boy or girl yet. Um,

626
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: but you can name a boy or a girl, Stevie.

627
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: So but you just had I'm just saying. I'm just

628
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Speaker 1: saying that kids. I like it. I like it. But wait,

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Speaker 1: but the first isn't from too long ago. They almost

630
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Speaker 1: bet five. Ye, my son. The two or two oldest

631
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Speaker 1: sons are in local and one of them's got three

632
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Speaker 1: and he's imminent with the fourth and the other one

633
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: at one point had three. Who's all three ages didn't

634
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Speaker 1: add up to three yet? Twins? Twins suns right, So

635
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Speaker 1: he's got a he's got a three year old and

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Speaker 1: now two one year olds. So I can watch any

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Speaker 1: amount of them for any for about twenty minutes or whatever. Yea,

638
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Speaker 1: I need a two hour nap. I love it. It's

639
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: a two hour nap after that, that's awesome. They suck

640
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: it out of here. Happy birthday, Joann is great. Yeah,

641
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: so congratulations mom. I'm proud of you. I love you.

642
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: It's it's great. This is her day. And I've called

643
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: her early. She wasn't up yet. My dad answered the phone.

644
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, she's let me check. No, she's out

645
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: turn on the appoint and I tried to call her

646
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: a little later than that. She didn't. She's busy. She's yeah,

647
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: so that's good. That's good. So thanks for indulging me

648
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: for like saying hello or happy birthday to joint um

649
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: salapach me. We're here all day and if you want

650
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: to get in on it, you can call us or

651
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: tweet us. We got a bunch of people tweeting at

652
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: us with our it's usually our Friday mail bag, but

653
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: we're doing it today because it's gonna be a long

654
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend for everybody. We're out of here at

655
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day and we're gonna take your

656
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: mail bags questions today and from Tiffany. She says this,

657
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: with Starlo to La opting out of last season and

658
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: now skipping the voluntary team activities, should there be concerned

659
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: some concern that he may retire, I think they'd be

660
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: all over that. They'll know he'll tell them I'm thinking

661
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: about it, and there will get a sense of that.

662
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that would come out of the blue. Now.

663
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: He may be and they may be ready for that,

664
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Speaker 1: but I don't think that will catch them off guard

665
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: if indeed he does decide he doesn't want to play anymore.

666
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: And I think for right now, a guy like Starlo

667
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: to La, who's been out and particularly with you know,

668
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: the concerns he and his family had with the COVID issue,

669
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: he's like, listen, I'm just gonna play it safe and

670
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: stay out and stay away. And I don't think I

671
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: haven't heard any of that, But that's it's interesting. I

672
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: had not thought about that well. When Sean McDermott was

673
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: asked the other day if he was there, he said, unfortunately,

674
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: he's not. So I know that. You know, they'd like

675
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: to have a one hundred percent attendants here, but right

676
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: now that's not happening. And we do know he wasn't

677
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: here last year due to opting out, and I would

678
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: say to Tiffany my answer here would be, I don't

679
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: think there's a concern that he's going to retire. I

680
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: think the concern, if you want to put it that way,

681
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: would be the unknown of what's gonna happen with opt

682
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: outs again, because Steve, they are renegotiating opt outs, I believe,

683
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: between the NFL and NFLPA, and if it comes up

684
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: that they can't opt out, then the team has to

685
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 1: know if Star is going to do that, and if

686
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: he does, if he chooses that's fine for his own safety.

687
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: He wants to do that, there's nothing wrong with that,

688
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: just like retiring you, That's exactly right. I think that

689
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: right now, though not necessarily retiring, if he's not giving

690
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: any indication of that, they still don't know what's going

691
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: to happen with opt outs and if he would choose

692
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: to do that, And I think that having the clarity,

693
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: like we talked about with the salary cap is kind

694
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: of what everybody wants, right, You want clarity on things,

695
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: and the longer it goes without clarity, that's where concern

696
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: comes in. Right, That's right, Nobody knows what the rules

697
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: are going to be, that's right, let alone what you're

698
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: able to do within those rules. So that's that's interesting.

699
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: I had not thought about Starlutil retiring, but he is.

700
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: He's past thirty. Uh, and he did opt out last year.

701
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: And after you've ground it out for a decade like

702
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: he has in the NFL, getting getting a season off

703
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: Mike felt good. Yeah. I mean, and he's he's a

704
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: bigger guy, plays a position that you know he's it's

705
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: a punishing position, right, That's right. Well, it'll be interesting.

706
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: We'll have to keep an eye on that. But that's

707
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: an interesting point by Tiffany from Rich. He tweets in

708
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: this would you think the biggest issue for this year's

709
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: team is the depth behind Edmonds and Milano the biggest issue?

710
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: I would say no, that's an issue because you don't know.

711
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: But um, I would say no, I don't think that's

712
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: the biggest issue. Can I give you a I don't think.

713
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: I think this isn't a hot take necessarily, but I'm

714
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: not goncern about the issue behind them at all right now.

715
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: I like their depth, actually, and I'll tell you why.

716
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: I think it's underrated. What Tyrell Adams brings to the table.

717
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: He was one of the top tacklers in the league

718
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: last year with the Houston Texans, and he comes in.

719
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: Terrell Dodson is good. I like them, and they have

720
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Speaker 1: a J. Klein. I like the depth behind these guys.

721
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: I like the Bills only play two linebackers. Let's remember

722
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: that they play a lot of nickel defense. Very rarely

723
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: do they play bass three linebackers. And when they did

724
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: last year in the playoff game against the Ravens, it

725
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: was AJ Klein. I like the depth behind them. Aj Klein,

726
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: Terrell Dodson, Tyrell Adams, Marquel Lee comes over right. I mean,

727
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: you still Tyler made Kavic in a pinch if you

728
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: have to. But I don't think that's an issue at all.

729
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: It certainly wouldn't be the biggest I think the biggest

730
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Speaker 1: issue question, I don't even call it an issue this

731
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: roster is very good, would be maybe if they can

732
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: run the ball better and they can get the other

733
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the ground. But to me, that's not positionally.

734
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Speaker 1: That might be also even philosophy or just you know,

735
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Speaker 1: how they go about their business. The only reason you

736
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Speaker 1: worry about depth is because last year There was one

737
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: game when when Tremaine Edmonds and Milana were out. It

738
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Speaker 1: was the Miami game, and they did not play well defensively.

739
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: That defense was lost down the middle of the field

740
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Speaker 1: without Edmonds and Milano either one in the lock in

741
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: the lineup and Dodson I think I think Dodson was

742
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: in and I can't remember how they handled the death

743
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: he got here two, but they struggled defensively and that

744
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: would have been that would have been just one more

745
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: blowout win had those guys been in there, because the

746
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: Dolphins would never have scored as many points as they did.

747
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: That was one of those games I think early in

748
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: the season where they ended with an on site kick.

749
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: The Bills were won the eight or something like that.

750
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: They they lost the lead, had to come back in

751
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: that game, they were up, they lost the lead, they

752
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: had to come back. I like, I think Tyrell Adams

753
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: is a underrated signing for this team. A lot of

754
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: guys are signed because of special teams and to add depth,

755
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: like Andrea Smith this year. For that reason, Tyler made

756
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: a KVICH. I don't think that's it. I think he's

757
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: here to add depth to that group. Yeah, and it

758
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: was it was Week two last year, thirty one twenty

759
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: eight win by the Bills in Week two, and that's

760
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Speaker 1: you know, that's how close it was without Edmonds and

761
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: Milano in there. That that game is not that close

762
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: if those guys are on the field. So it is

763
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: an issue. No, I'm not gonna you know, you can't

764
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: sugarcoat it. You like as good as guys as you

765
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: can get. But I think at this point, I mean

766
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: aj Klein and meta Kevitch and those guys, those are

767
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: special teams guys and that's their role. They don't anticipate

768
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: as a staff that Milano and Edmonds come off the

769
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: field at all. Ever, they're out there all the time,

770
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: so certainly they could get hurt as they did last

771
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: year at times, but that the plan is that those

772
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: guys don't come off the field. From Patrick, he says, question,

773
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: would it makes sense to transition Duke Williams into a

774
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: tight end role given all of our wide receiver options?

775
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Would Sheldon Richardson be a cost effective addition? And can

776
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: I book my flight to LA now? You can book

777
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: it now. I don't know that you'll use it, but yeah,

778
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's the expectation. The expectations are through the roof,

779
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: no question, and you're gonna get a good look at

780
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: that during this season. This team's gonna play well at times,

781
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: no question about it. If they can play as well

782
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: as they did consistently as they did last year, yeah, yeah,

783
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna be tough to beat, particular with the additions

784
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: that they've got. But as far as far as Duke

785
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: Williams sliding over to tight end, I do not see

786
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: that happening. This has come up many times. I've been

787
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: asked this a lot over the last couple of years

788
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: Aboutduke Williams because of his size, because of the depth

789
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: at the position. And my answer is always Duke Williams

790
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: never has never played tight end to my knowledge. He's

791
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: never put his hand in the door. He's never had

792
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: to down block a defensive lineman. I mean, you're gonna

793
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: ask him to do something completely foreign to what he's

794
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: ever known in football. He's a wide receiver. Now, I

795
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: understand that you see a guy like Calvin Benjamin doing it.

796
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: Whoever it was the Giants, right the Giants brought him

797
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: in at camp. Kelvin Benjamin, that's because he hadn't played

798
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: football in a couple of years. He was basically like

799
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: trying to find a job and like, Okay, well he's

800
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: a big guy you could catch Look how you know,

801
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: maybe we can find a spot for him. That's not

802
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: Duke Williams case. Duke Williams is just a bigger wide

803
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: receiver who's on the fringe of a roster. There's lots

804
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: of guys like that in the NFL. They just can't

805
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: make the team. I would say you'd be hurting Duke

806
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: williams chances to make the team more than helping him

807
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: by moving him to tight end. If Duke Williams had

808
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: a shot at doing it at tight end, he would

809
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: have done it. That's right before he was twenty eight

810
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: years old. That's right. Um, So that's that's it. I

811
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: mean he and uh, it's up to him too. I

812
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: mean he could go to them and ask him to

813
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: do that. But he's a six three two and twenty

814
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: five pound guy. He'd have to put on fifteen minimum

815
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: and learn a new position, learn technique, I mean learn

816
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: and understand too. You have to be up for, you know,

817
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: mixing it up with big dudes, which he doesn't do.

818
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: Which at wide receiver, he is the big dude, right,

819
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: he would be the little dude if he moved down

820
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: and put his hand in the dirt. So that's interesting,

821
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: it's I get it. And and Sheldon Richardson, Uh from Patrick,

822
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: would he be a cost effective edition? Depends on the cost,

823
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: that's right. I like Sheldon Richardson, but I mean, what

824
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: what is he looking for? If he's yeah, vetermentimum, absolutely

825
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: maybe more than that. Sure, give him a shot. Uh

826
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: would he say yes to that? Probably not? Probably not.

827
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: And let's go back to what we said about um,

828
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, Star Lotulae. If something were to happen where

829
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: he decides he's not playing in twenty twenty, then that's

830
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: that's more of a conversation at that point, I think

831
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: right as of right now though you know you're you

832
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: still are counting on you know, Star Lotulae to be there.

833
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: And again the cost has to matter this maybe, and

834
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: maybe Sheldon Richardson doesn't have to be so cost effective?

835
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: Is Starlotulele opts out? That's right? Then you can say, well,

836
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: we got him, we need a guy, and he's the

837
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: best one. Now you're willing to pay pay him, and

838
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: we don't have to pay um star. So from Mac.

839
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Speaker 1: Will the Bills keep three quarterbacks on the roster this

840
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: year or one on a practice squad and two on

841
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: the roster. Who's the odd man out? It's a good question.

842
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: The quarterback roster as it sits now is, of course Josh,

843
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: Jake Trubisky or Mitch Trubisky. Jake from Davis Webb. I

844
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: think the odd guy how is Jake from because of

845
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: what Davis Webb brings to the to the room as

846
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Speaker 1: a kind of a coach slash player. And Mitch Drubisky

847
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: is not going anywhere because here's the thought behind miss

848
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: Drubisky being signed by the Bills is this, if something

849
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: does happen to Josh, the whole season doesn't go in

850
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: the tank, they feel like they can still got a

851
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: shot with Mitch from the way he's played, what they've

852
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: seen on film. Now it's Chicago fans can laugh at

853
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: that or say whatever they want. The guy won more

854
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: than he did one more than he lost in Chicago.

855
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: And I had a Chicago Chicago media member tell me

856
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: when Trubisky was signed, this is the greatest thing that

857
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: could happen for this kid. You guys will do more

858
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: in one year for him than the Bears dead in

859
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: four years for him. Yeah, well, I mean the book

860
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: is out on what they weren't able to do with

861
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: him in Chicago. But yet people still believe that he

862
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: can play in this league. It doesn't mean he's a

863
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: legit sixteen game starter seventeen game starter now, but he

864
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: can play. I think he showed some things in his

865
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: first year. Of course, that it was a defensive game

866
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: and the kid was young. I think he was a

867
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: little bit of a surprise pick by the Bears. They

868
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: traded up to get him, and people are like, oh,

869
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, and he's got some physical tools. So

870
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: so let me walk this through with you, and you

871
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: tell me what you think about this, Steve. So what

872
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: we know is what you said, which is right, Alan Scherbiskier.

873
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: On this roster, there's no doubt they are one and two.

874
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: I think they're going to keep a third on the

875
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: roster because they want to make sure they're safe in

876
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: case of anything. As of right now, we don't know

877
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: the COVID situation. But let's just say they okay, they

878
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: want to do that. Here's why I'll make the case

879
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: for Webb to be for from to be the third guy.

880
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: I agree with you what Davis Webb brings to the room,

881
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: but in order to make that happen, you have to

882
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: release Jake from, who then can get claimed by waivers.

883
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: That could happen. I don't think Davis Webbs getting claim

884
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: by anybody on waivers, So to me, it's easier to

885
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: release Davis Webb resigned him to the practice squad and

886
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: keep Jake from because in that center, you still keep

887
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: all four. If you release Jake from, you ain't getting

888
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: them in the practice squad. Someone's scooping him up. Yeah,

889
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: maybe that's what happened last year. It's I think, and

890
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: that's why they made him the COVID quarterback if you will,

891
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: even though he was on the roster, because they didn't

892
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: worry about someone scooping up Davis Webb necessarily no offense.

893
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: They had had an additional had additional freedoms on their

894
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: roster last year. You're right, it's a it's a dilemma.

895
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if I care if somebody picks Jake from.

896
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: I get it, and I could totally understand. I love Jake.

897
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: He's brings something to the table, and that the job

898
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: he did last year was a commendable and maybe if

899
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: they really really were super high. No, maybe they don't

900
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: sign mister Bisky right because maybe they just feel, hey,

901
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: he got us through last year, we got our guy now,

902
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: and maybe mount now makes it easier if you do

903
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: want to do that. But that's the argument I'd make,

904
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: at least in that sense. Coming up at the top

905
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: of the hour, not quite yet, but Terek Thompson Bill

906
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: safety at twenty twenty one, undrafted rookie free agent from

907
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: San Diego State. He's going to come on. He was

908
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: first team All Mountain West last year. He's got some

909
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: really nice high heights and some pretty impressive statistics for

910
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: a guy coming into the Buffalo Bills at safety. We're

911
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: gonna talk to Terite Thompson. To the top of the hour,

912
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Sal Capaccio here on One Bill's Live

913
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: presented by kalidah Health. We're coming to you from Seneca Studio.

914
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Come back and join us. We'll be right back. Welcome

915
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker along with Sal Capaccio.

916
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: We've got the fan mail bag open and a couple

917
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: of things happened over the night that we're truly truly transcendent.

918
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: Sal got Yankee tickets this morning before I came in here,

919
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: Yankees blue Jays, and we got a question from Rob

920
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: about that, Are you, gentlemen, going to a Blue Jay's

921
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: game in Buffalo? If you are, I'll buy you a beer. Well, Rob,

922
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: I will take you up on that beer, because I

923
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: got tickets this morning. Let me tell you what happens Steve.

924
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: When it was announced they we're gonna have tickets the

925
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: Yankees blue Jay's coming to Buffalo, and look, will support

926
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays here, but I'm not rooting for him

927
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: against the Yankees. I'm just not. I'm sorry. I can't

928
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: do that. But I will support them here and I'll

929
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: go to games, and if they play somebody else, I'll

930
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: root for them. But of course we're Yankee fans. In

931
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: my house. I grew up a Yankee fan. I'm raising

932
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: my Sonny Yankee fan. We wanted to go to the games,

933
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: so we figured out the date that was best. They

934
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: go on sale and I look and there was some

935
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: sticker shock. Originally I go, WHOA, man, I can't pay

936
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: that much to go to a baseball game, can't I

937
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: three people? Um, then you'd bay Okay, let's check the

938
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: secondary market. I mean just outrageous, right, come on, are

939
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: you kidding me? So? Bison's Blue Jays. They announced that

940
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: tickets would go on sale this morning at ten am.

941
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: Have you ever gone online and try to buy concert

942
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: tickets and refresh, refresh, refresh until you can be the

943
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: first one in. I did that this morning at ten am.

944
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: And ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to or watching

945
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: right now the proud owner of three Yankees blue Jay's

946
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: tickets in Buffalo on the Thursday night, June seventeenth game

947
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: something that is seven h seven. Yep. I'm super happy

948
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: they're coming the fifteen, sixteen seventeen, which, by the way,

949
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: should coincide with Rookie with mandatory mini camp here those

950
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: same three days the Yankees are here. There you go.

951
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: But um, you probably see some of those guys out here. Yeah,

952
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: maybe that's what I'm thinking. They might be at the game.

953
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: Who knows? Are you going to go to a game

954
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Blue Jays? No? No, uh no, not Baba. Used to

955
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: be when the kids were Yes, when the kids were

956
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: a little we'd take we'd do like four things every

957
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 1: summer with all the kids. We go to the Zoo,

958
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: we go to a Bison's game, we'd go to Darien Lake,

959
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: and we go to the Erie County for love it,

960
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: love it. Those are the four. That's the four you

961
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: know faces on Mount Rushmore of our summer. Listen, let

962
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: me tell you, I'm not thrilled about paying the prices

963
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: I even had to pay to go to see this. Yeah,

964
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: but if you're a baseball guy, you gotta do any

965
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: Yankees in Buffalo, New York. I mean I got to

966
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, so once in a lifetime opportunity, because

967
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: you're not going to see it again. No, never, that's right.

968
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: And what's ironic? Coincidental? I always mix up the two words. Uh.

969
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: The next day, we're actually flying to New York City

970
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: for Father's Day weekend and we're gonna see the Yankees

971
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: there a Yankee Stadium, gardless of going to this game,

972
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: would have done that. But I'm happy. My son's gonna

973
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: be happy when I tell him I'm gonna pick him

974
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: up from school today and say, guess what, dad got

975
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: tickets to see the Yanks. He's gonna be super pumped.

976
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, so there you go, Rob, if you see

977
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: me at Yankee Stadium on Thursday night, June seventeenth. You

978
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: can buy me that beer. I'll take you up there

979
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: you go that could congratulations. I'm happy for because I

980
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: know what it's like to hover over your computer like

981
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I was refreshing. You know what I did.

982
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you, Steve. I literally I wrote down

983
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: on my computer, in my notepad on the computer our

984
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: credit card number and copied it just so I could

985
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: paste it as quick as possible into the browser when

986
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: it came time to buy the tickets so I didn't

987
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: lose out. You've done this before. I have done this before.

988
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you this, what sporting event

989
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: other than he yank like what you're talking about? What

990
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: sporting event? Like? Would it be like a money no

991
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: object for like you just you okay, only you can go.

992
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: It's a one thing. You got the you got the

993
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: green light from the family. You gotta go. This is

994
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: your moment. What is there one? Yeah? I think there is.

995
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: I think it might be the Masters because it's so

996
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: hard to get tickets. It's not because like I'd love

997
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: to see the Masters. It's not because oh my god,

998
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: I have to see the Masters. It's the most amazing

999
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: as sporting event. Ever, it's because it is really hard

1000
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: to get tickets. So if you get it, it's like

1001
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: winning Willie Wonka's Golden ticket, right, I mean, oh my gosh.

1002
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: The secondary market for that's off the room. It's ridiculous too. Yeah,

1003
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: you can't, you really can't get passes to it. And yeah,

1004
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: what would you choose? That's pretty close the Masters sporting events. Yeah,

1005
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, because I've been to so many

1006
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: football games, Super Bowls, where I've been, a World Series games,

1007
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: been a Boston Marathon, NBA games I paid. The most

1008
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: I were paid for a ticket was to see the

1009
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: Sabers play in the Stanley Cup Finals here in ninety

1010
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: nine against the Stars. I was living in Florida. My

1011
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 1: buddy and I came up. We paid. It was great,

1012
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: And if you would have asked me before that, that

1013
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: would have been it. Hey, if the Sabers or Bills

1014
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: wherever in a championship, I'll do that, you know, but

1015
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: we've done that now. It's I think I would choose

1016
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: the Masters because just because it's so hard to get tickets,

1017
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: I'd feel like I finally did it. It's kind of

1018
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 1: like it's winning one over too. It's interesting too because

1019
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: the Masters is you know, it's in the same spot

1020
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: every year, it's once a year, and you're I've been

1021
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: there a couple of times, and it's it's and I've

1022
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: said it on this show and everywhere. It is the

1023
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: most unique sporting event, an event of any kind anywhere

1024
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: in the world. There's nothing else like it. There's absolutely

1025
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: have even been there. Yeah, oh yeah, even PGA events,

1026
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: other golf events like and I and I've been to

1027
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: a Ryder Cup. I've been to. I've been to, you know,

1028
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: other majors PGA like in Rochester and all that. I've

1029
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: been to all of that stuff. There's nothing like it.

1030
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: There's nothing like them, I can imagine because of the

1031
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: of the just the way they run it. If you've

1032
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: gone to a and I've told you like I've been,

1033
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: I've been to like everything. I've been to Olympics, but

1034
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: I've been to I've been doing I was at the

1035
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: Syracuse they beat Kansas in the National Championship game. Have

1036
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: you been to basketball Final four? No, just that that's

1037
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: pretty cool. That's pretty cool. The File four is pretty cool. Yeah,

1038
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: And it's um for a ton of reasons. It stands alone.

1039
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: The masters as, the way they run it, the ways,

1040
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: the way it is, the way it feels, and the

1041
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: at sphere, there's nothing like it. So all right, Steve

1042
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: task We're gonna come back at the top of the hour.

1043
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: Just after the top of the hour, Bill's Safety, Terek

1044
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: Thompson from San Diego State, gonna join us. Steve Tasker,

1045
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: salth Capaccio and One Bill's Live coming to you from Collida,

1046
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: brought to you by Kalidah Health and from the Seneca Studio.

1047
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: We'll be right back at a Steve Tasker who has

1048
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: been all all other fields. Kind of unique. He was

1049
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for Steve. Steve a blimp.

1050
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: We're not even in the straged beere of normalcy. Welcome

1051
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: back to the second hour of One Bill's Live. Steve

1052
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: task along with salth Capaccio in for Chris Brown today

1053
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: and Sally got you know, a bunch of stuff going on,

1054
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: and before we I get Terek Thompson on which he'll

1055
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: be with us as soon as practice is over. They'll

1056
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: walk him in and set him down in front of

1057
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: a zoom machine and he'll come on with us. So

1058
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: we'll just patiently wait here for him practice to get over.

1059
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: Did you see over the weekend you're watching in the PGA.

1060
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I definitely did. Um. I've always loved Phil

1061
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: be also partly because he's Phil, but also because I'm

1062
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: a lefty golfer. I hit left handed, so I like

1063
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: watching Phil. I like Bubba, I like all the left

1064
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: He's weir who won. Like the Masters has a history

1065
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: of guys left commanders, left handers winning at the Master's

1066
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: just the way the course is set up. So Phil

1067
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: and Bubba and Mike were so Yes, that's why Jack

1068
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: Nichols could play it. But I'm also I draw and

1069
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: those guys hit, you know, yes, absolutely, I also, um,

1070
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm a I like Bruce Brooks kept gay. I know

1071
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: he's kind of polarizing to a lot of people. And

1072
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: we can get more into this a little bit later

1073
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: with him in the Dashambo, but that was but to me,

1074
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: that was riveting golf, like just the whole day and

1075
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: when it came time for that eighteenth hole and seeing

1076
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: those fans, I was like, I turned my wife and

1077
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: I said, shocked, I cannot believe the number of people

1078
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: on the fairway. That's incredible. Yeah, they really they really

1079
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: did just engulf the you know, the players, and you know,

1080
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: Kepka wasn't one hundred percent physically. He was bumming because

1081
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: he got his knee, you know, trying to get through

1082
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: the crowd. His knee wasn't feeling and he got whacked

1083
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and you know, he was bumming

1084
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: out about that. But by the same token, it was

1085
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: pretty riveting television and I a CBS had the for

1086
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: the first time I've seen in their coverage they had

1087
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: the drones that were taking shots that really worked well.

1088
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: I thought the camera angles they had with the drones

1089
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: were fantastic. And watching the amazing thing is Phil Mickelson's

1090
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: fifty and Keepka gets up and he was like the

1091
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: number one player in the world for for a minute

1092
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: and he's still one of the top players in the game.

1093
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: He spanked that three hundred and sixty one yard drive

1094
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: on eighteen or on sixteen, I think it was. Phil

1095
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: got up and hit a three sixty six right behind him. Unbelievable.

1096
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: It's an unbelievable that's an incredibly long way and as

1097
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: a fifty year old now it helps that he's a

1098
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: tall dude, and with Mickelson but man, oh man, that

1099
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: under the pressure, that was under the circumstances that was

1100
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: to rope that three three hundred and sixty six down

1101
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: the middle. It's the longest drive of the day by anybody,

1102
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: the longest drive of the week by anybody, and it

1103
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: was the final group on Sunday and the fifty year

1104
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: old guy who did it. That's pretty impressive. Do you

1105
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: think that? Do you think because of technology, nutrition, understanding

1106
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: bodies and different things that we can do. Now, do

1107
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: you think we'll see a little bit more of this.

1108
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: We're not going to necessarily see, you know, fifty year

1109
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: olds winning every major, but do you think we'll see

1110
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: a little more of this where some of the older

1111
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 1: guys are going to start to just like you're seeing

1112
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: it in football. Yeah, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, certainly, Tom Brady,

1113
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: Drew Drew, Philip Rivers, Philip Rivers, There's a ton of

1114
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: guys like that. Yeo. You'll see it more and more,

1115
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: and you'll see it probably a little bit branch out

1116
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: into other positions, not just not just not just foot

1117
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, Adam Vinatieri. Look, we're talking about Julio Jones.

1118
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean back in the day when you played, if

1119
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: you were thirty one year old wide receiver, that's right.

1120
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: Now it's like, oh yeah, he's thirty one, but he

1121
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: can still play. You're gonna give a first round pick

1122
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: for this guy, right, I mean. So, I think more

1123
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: and more you'll see guys that that envelope expand because

1124
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: of because of it, and plus guys like Brady and

1125
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: and you know, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, all these guys,

1126
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: they will say, Okay, why not me? Why why should

1127
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: Why am I not doing it? You know, And you'll

1128
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: get more and more guys who will be that committed

1129
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: to doing it. Back in the day, they were committed

1130
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: to a six pack of beer, you know what I mean.

1131
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: And you know they had a half a pack of

1132
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: Marlboroughs in their in their coat pocket, you know. And

1133
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: they certainly didn't make as much money to be able

1134
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: to just concentrate on and do this all the time,

1135
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: every day, full time. Make it. You're you're you're incredible,

1136
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: their life, everything you breathe. Back in the sixties, they

1137
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: were part time professional acts, right, they were part timers.

1138
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: And now now it's there full time and they're they're

1139
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: making an they're making life changing money. So, um, what

1140
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: did you think about the Brooks Kepka Bryson d Schambau

1141
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: you know walk by? Because I've heard it on both sides.

1142
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: Some people like they don't like Brooks because they don't

1143
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: like Bryson because Bryson said something to him. He was

1144
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: he was answering a question and Bryson said, you know,

1145
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, busted his chops about lyning the putts up

1146
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: right or something, you know. So I've heard people on

1147
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: both sides of the issue. So I'm not much of

1148
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: a Bryson fan. I don't know, but I do love

1149
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: the fact that he's a part of the PGA tour

1150
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: because it gives a storyline, right, it gives it's I'm

1151
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: in this business because we enjoy interesting stories. When he

1152
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: content that's right, and that's that's what I root for,

1153
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: interesting and drama. So I like that part of it.

1154
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: I'm not though on a personal you know, golf fan,

1155
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: He's not my cup of tea. I do think he

1156
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: like I understand the slow play arguments. Like this guy.

1157
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: There's a video of him. Do you remember a few

1158
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: years ago when this all started. There's a video of

1159
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: Bryson to Shambo he's about to hit like one hundred

1160
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: and twenty something yard shot somewhere on whatever course they're at.

1161
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: His caddy comes out. They were talking about like wind

1162
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: density and going through the numbers and doing math in

1163
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: their head before we stood over the ball and I'm like,

1164
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: it's one hundred and twenty yards and he's like, well,

1165
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: I should land at three yards close because wait, what

1166
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: did you say the density was? Oh, it's once one.

1167
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: What's the D point? I'm not kidding you? And I'm like,

1168
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: come on, you gotta be kidding me, right, So that

1169
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't like, I think some of that showmanship is

1170
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: maybe they think some of it it knows he knows

1171
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: he's miked up, that's right, or he knows that the

1172
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: mic is on him, so that because what happens is

1173
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: that they talked to the camera guys out there. They're

1174
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: out there so much on the tour and they're out

1175
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: there every week a week, so they know these guys

1176
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: so like, hey, we're gonna come back and you know,

1177
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: say he knew, And a little bit of that is

1178
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: showmanship and getting in the head of anybody else who's listening,

1179
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: of guys who are like, what he really talks about that.

1180
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: Maybe I gotta start thinking about doing that, you know

1181
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: what I mean. Plus, some guys like to be in

1182
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: the spotlight, you know what, can you say? Some guys

1183
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: like that stuff. And didn't Brooks have a run in

1184
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: with Dustin Johnson too several years ago? Maybe I think

1185
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: that there was something happened there anyway, So it got

1186
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: me too. I actually thought about this for you. I said,

1187
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, there's this is really interesting. We don't get

1188
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: this much anymore in sports, Steve. We don't get like

1189
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: one on one feuds. Guy's not liking each other. And

1190
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna have to treat Thompson coming up.

1191
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: But in the meantime when you played, were there any

1192
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: personal feuds sorry that you were around? You were you remember,

1193
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: whether it's in your own locker room or a Bill's

1194
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: player with another player, or two guys and other teams

1195
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: that you're like, you know, these guys just didn't like

1196
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: each other. No, nothing that'll lasted for a long time.

1197
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: Of course, when I came into the league, they were

1198
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: you were in two a day practices for two straight weeks.

1199
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: There a lot of fights, a lot of fights, and

1200
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: it was and I came into the league when it

1201
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: was a steroid era, right, So there were guys juiceon

1202
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: and and notoriously, one of the side effects of having

1203
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: being a steroid guy is that you get a short temper.

1204
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: So you've had a lot of guy an offensive lineman.

1205
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: Then they were all giving an example, they were six five,

1206
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty five pounds back then, but they'd

1207
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: have a thirty six inch waist, so they were you know,

1208
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: have a washboard almost, right. So they were put together

1209
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: like bodybuilders because they were you know, it was a

1210
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: better life through chemistry back then. So and you got

1211
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: those guys like that run around big and I mean

1212
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: like they could hunt wild animals with a stick. I

1213
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: mean they were that bad and so and they all

1214
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: had like fuses that were in infantesimal infantesimal, all right,

1215
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: so you get so you put those guys out there

1216
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: two days for two weeks, and the fuses are like,

1217
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: by the way, this is of like you guys are

1218
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: their hand on each other. So you're out there and

1219
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: if you if two of these guys snapped at the

1220
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: same time and get into a fight, you needed six

1221
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: other guys that were also there to get able to

1222
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: pull on because it was a it was South, it

1223
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: was a deathmatch. I'm they would literally kill each other

1224
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: because of the because of the you know, steroids. They

1225
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: would literally kill each other if there weren't guys there

1226
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: to you know, jump in on. But by the same token,

1227
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: it's the other side of the coin is true too.

1228
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: Thirty seconds later they're like, bro, I was about to

1229
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: kill me, and you know, they would be laughing about it,

1230
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: and they'd be having a beer that night and stuff.

1231
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: So it never lingered because that's what you fight. It's

1232
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: just gone as you wipe it away and then okay,

1233
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: it's all right, I feel better now, I'm good, and

1234
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: they could talk and they walk off the field together

1235
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: at the end of practice. So but for that moment, yeah,

1236
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: there was a lot of that going on. And also too,

1237
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: as as I got into deeper into it, free agency

1238
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: has made the league very extremely small, so there's none

1239
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: of this. When I first got in, it was like, man,

1240
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: you do not you don't have dinner talk to or

1241
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: any even in the offseason, you don't. You don't talk

1242
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: to guy. If I was in the Oilers, you don't

1243
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: talk to guys with Cleveland, you don't talk to guys.

1244
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: Then you know, you don't talk to those guys. There

1245
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: are your enemy. Yeah, there, we gotta play against them

1246
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: there there, you know some it was a weird kind

1247
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: it was a weird dynamic. But now you're all. Now

1248
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: it's different. Now there's pass rush, summits, there's a tight end. Yeah,

1249
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: you know all that stuff going. All these guys are

1250
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: and you've played with this guy, you played with that guy.

1251
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: It's a much different atmosphere. So let me let me

1252
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: give you this on what you just said two years ago.

1253
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: You know had to because it wasn't last year. We're

1254
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: in the locker room. I remember a game Lee Smith

1255
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: and Lee had his share of penalties in Buffalo, and

1256
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: he'd like, you know, people would get out of right rights,

1257
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: things like that, and then all of a sudden you'd

1258
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: see a play where like Lee Smith is kind of

1259
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: John at somebody or something like that. So one one game,

1260
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember who the Bills are playing, and there

1261
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: was a play and at the end of it, Lee

1262
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: gets up and he gets kind of gets in this

1263
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: guy's face. So I go in the locker room the

1264
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: next week and I say, hey, what happened on that play?

1265
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: Like can you tell me, like, what was was the

1266
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: guy saying something? He was like kind of a he

1267
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: was a smaller guy. What it meant a dB or whatever?

1268
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: Like you you could have wrecked him. And Lee Smith

1269
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: looks at me and he laughed and he goes, no,

1270
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: he goes, I was probably telling him, great hit, because

1271
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: that guy could be my teammate tomorrow. That's what he said,

1272
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: he goes, He goes, no, he goes. It wasn't anything bad,

1273
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: he said. We were probably having a joke over it

1274
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: or something. He says, he goes, You gotta love each

1275
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: other in this league. I know you were competitive, he said,

1276
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: but that guy could be my teammate tomorrow. And exactly

1277
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Yeah, we had back in the day

1278
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: when Brian Cox was Brian Cox Senior was playing for

1279
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and he was getting thrown out of the

1280
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: game every every other week. And and Carroll Garner, that

1281
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: was a big that when that happened that there was

1282
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: one and we knew. We knew, Brian. Listen, you watch

1283
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: film of that team. And on our team, we were good,

1284
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: we were we were rolling. We had some guys and

1285
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: if there was a guy on the Miami Dolphins that

1286
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: we wish was on our team. It was Brian Cox senior.

1287
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: You watched him playing against other teams, So against other

1288
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: team whatever, and here's a good player. That guy had

1289
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: a motor, He had a passion and he cared about

1290
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: every play. And you want guys like that on your team. Well,

1291
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: we said that's right. When I was remember Charlie Joyner

1292
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: was our wide receiver coach. We were watching the Miami

1293
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: defense go against whoever was and they snapped off. The

1294
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: team snapped off a big play against Miami. Guy's going

1295
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: for like a sixty five seventy yard touchdown. He gets

1296
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: to the end zone. There's only one dolphin chasing him,

1297
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: only one Brian Cox. He had no shot at catching him, none,

1298
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: but he was chasing him. And that if you list

1299
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: a little a little detail means something to you know,

1300
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: you remember that now. We also knew that if we

1301
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: sick carl car Wyll Gardner on him, car Wyll could

1302
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: get under his skin. Yeah, and he did, and he

1303
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: would get him tossed. And he got him tossed for

1304
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: a game. If you were to list people know we've

1305
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: done this. We've had this topic on you know, on

1306
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: w GR shows where if you listed like the top

1307
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: ten Buffalo Sports villains ever, I mean Brian Cox at

1308
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: the top of the list, Bran Cox senior. People just

1309
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: hated him. Steve I was that was my age, Like

1310
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm in high school at the time when this is

1311
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: going on. I remember going to the games. Sorry to no, no, no, okay,

1312
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: I know you played. I remember going to games and

1313
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: being one of the people in the stands booing and

1314
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: saying things to Brian Cox because that's what you did,

1315
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: and him getting giving it right back to the fans.

1316
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: One of the one of my buddies knew and they

1317
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: were it was smart and we had a lot of

1318
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: really sharp guys on our team and you just knew.

1319
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: So one time there was a running player or whatever,

1320
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: and he ends up on top of Brian Cox, right,

1321
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, blocking him, stuff, pile up and stuff, nothing big,

1322
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: but he's on top of him, right, you know, they're

1323
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: face to face to face mask and it was an

1324
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: important game like it always was with Miami, and all

1325
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: he did was look at him in the eye and go,

1326
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: you're soft. That was he was gone. I mean something

1327
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: in him snapped and he was gone. Would you talk

1328
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: about that at practice like how to do it, like, hey, hey,

1329
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: if we can, we joke about it. But there was

1330
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: never any big conspiracy about it. But guys wouldn't. Guys

1331
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: would say, listen it you know, we knew and we

1332
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: we also had a head coach who sat down. He

1333
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: didn't have guys like that on his team. Even though

1334
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: I've always said you need one or two of them, right,

1335
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: we didn't have anybody like that. Because there's people like

1336
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: you can go basketball players will tell you stories about

1337
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: how they'll research guys they're playing against to say something

1338
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: to them, to get under their skin, like that's what

1339
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: they'll do. They'll you know, and and I and I'm

1340
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: sure that has happened in a lot of sports. I mean,

1341
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 1: there was a famous you know, Kelly Harbaugh b for whatever.

1342
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: There's been guys have gone at it. But I mean,

1343
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: but but I'm thinking about like like Jille and Ramsey

1344
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: and Golden Tap just do not like each other. There's

1345
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: a personal thing that they're like that's going on right

1346
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: now in the NFL, And there's there's sports. There's some

1347
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: athletes this Bryson de Shambo and Brooks kept the thing

1348
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: is is way different and anything we've seen at different Right,

1349
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: So finally Bill's practice just got over. We're gonna be

1350
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: joined here and we'll get back to that topic in

1351
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: a minute about you know, great rivalries and guys who

1352
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: used to get under our skins of fans and skins

1353
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: of their teammates, and guys who were susceptible to that.

1354
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: We've got a player now with us Trek Thompson, Buffalo

1355
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: Bill's safety. Undrafted rookie free agent from Sandy Ego State.

1356
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,479
Speaker 1: He was first team All Mountain West. Tarik Um, thanks

1357
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: for coming on the show this Steve Tasker and South Capaccio.

1358
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: How are you doing? How? How's how are the OTA's

1359
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: treating you? I'm just talking a good time, learning a

1360
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: lot a lot of great bets over here. So you know,

1361
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: just sulking room and just actually being an NFL player

1362
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: is something that I dreamed of and just trying to

1363
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: improve one a w basis to help the team. Right. Yeah,

1364
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: it's been it's been fun getting to you know, getting

1365
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: to see and all the players And how's the atmosphere

1366
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: been as that? You know what's I mean? I know

1367
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: what it's like. I was a long time ago. You know,

1368
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: you have to walk into a brand new locker room,

1369
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: and there's always a little bit apprehension, what's the vibe, like,

1370
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: what's the what are the group like, the veterans, the

1371
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: coaching staff. What's it like for you coming from San

1372
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: Diego State in the environment you were in at college

1373
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: and UH is compared to the Buffalo Bills, it's kind

1374
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: of similar. Um, here, I just some more professional atmosphere. Um.

1375
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: You know, they have a growth mindset of every day

1376
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: just trying to get better and just making sure you

1377
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: love each other and you know, we care about each other. Here.

1378
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: The Vets have tooking me in as one of their own.

1379
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: So I just, you know, couldn't be come to a

1380
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: better situation. So I'm excited to be here. And fans know,

1381
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: just by you saying the words growth mindset, how much

1382
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: already you are immersed in the Sean McDermott culture with that,

1383
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: because that's obviously something he talks about a lot. Why

1384
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: did you choose Buffalo? Why did you choose to sign

1385
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills when it came time. Um, definitely

1386
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: the Vets, Uh, Jordan Poyer, and Micah Hyde. There's some

1387
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: people that I so like I resemble a little bit.

1388
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: I definitely have a lot to learn. Um, They've been

1389
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: doing this for a long time, and my goal is

1390
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: to hopefully be one of those guys down the road,

1391
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: just trying to take everything I can from them. The

1392
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: coaching staff is great, Um, the system I felt like

1393
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: and there's something them is something that I'm comfortable doing,

1394
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to learn and everything I can

1395
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: at to see. One of the things about you is

1396
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: that when you see when I watch you play on film,

1397
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: and I've seen some of your your games and watched

1398
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: you a little bit on film, and I've seen your

1399
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you had two hundred and ten tackles, you

1400
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: had twenty three passes defense, eleven interceptions, you got forced fumbles,

1401
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: you got fumble recovery. You're a very productive player when

1402
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: you get on the field. And the only thing, the

1403
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: only reason you're not drafted is because you don't whatever.

1404
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: You don't jump high, you don't run fat. You you know,

1405
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: when you physically test Pro Day, you don't jump off

1406
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: the page statistically. But when you watch film, you're a

1407
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: really good football player. And that's why you're a Buffalo

1408
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: Bill today. Is that what is that kind of the

1409
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: the vibe you got during the draft process. Definitely didn't

1410
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: have the best pro day. Um, I definitely fee a

1411
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: good way better. I'm a good athlete. That's something you

1412
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: have to continue to show people that those numbers don't

1413
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: really reflect me. And you only turning the safety, you

1414
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: can see a good athlete, a person who knows the game,

1415
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: person who loves the game. And I do something that

1416
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo stands for. And I mean the fans here and

1417
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: so great U ryting some of these fans on the

1418
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: way here. Um, everyone's walking into open arms and he's

1419
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: ready to earth. Everything has been great so far. He's

1420
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: learning a lot. Bill Safety Terik Thompson joining us here

1421
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Yes, you talked about being an athlete.

1422
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: That's what you are. You you have You've played multiple

1423
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: sports growing up, football obviously, basketball, and track. Let's start.

1424
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: Let's go through all three of those real quick. What

1425
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: else did you play in football besides safety? You know?

1426
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: Growing up? What position? I played a lot? I played

1427
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 1: a lot of running back, some receiver, like two games

1428
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: of quarterback. But I try to I returned a little

1429
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: bit high school and a little bit of college, so

1430
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm slow myself as a versatile player. I'm played plainn

1431
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: of like a outside linebacker role in high school a

1432
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: little bit, but I can do most all right, many

1433
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: things in the defense. So that's why I just felt

1434
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: like this. That's how the took the commedis to see

1435
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: just want to learn the developed as a player, and

1436
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: then tell me about basketball, what position were you good?

1437
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: And then what did your run or throw or what

1438
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: events in track as a basketballlayer as a fun guard.

1439
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: I played for a great team syn Diego best in

1440
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: high school. You had a lot of players that wont

1441
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: d one on my team. You medic the state semi

1442
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: finals a couple of times in top of division in California.

1443
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: UM try. I did a lot of track when I

1444
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: was younger. I did one like one of year in

1445
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: high school. Uh brand like a ten eight in high

1446
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: school and a hundred um ran like four one relay,

1447
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: four relay and stuff like that. US team Evidi. What

1448
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: has been Yeah, the message the coaching staff has given

1449
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 1: to you and the safety and maybe on the defensive

1450
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: side of the ball, what's the what's the big overreaching

1451
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: message about these OTAs for the bills, study um progress

1452
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: um every day that you're not improving, you're dying. Um,

1453
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: this couch is for notten long. And you know that's

1454
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: just something that I've heard all the time. And you know,

1455
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: you see a first sand for the first time, it

1456
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: shocks you and something that reminds you that you got

1457
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: to improve daily. And you can't take this for granted,

1458
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 1: because I mean it's the first time. The first impression

1459
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: is the only impression has been DoD and I can

1460
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: sticking with you for a while and I'm just blessed

1461
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: to be here, and I'm just excited to keep working

1462
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: and learning. Tere Thompson joining us here on one Bill's Live.

1463
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: What's your first What's I'd like for you out there?

1464
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: You know, a rookie camp OTAs likes anything different than

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01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: what you expected. You know, what's been like walking into

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01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: and into an NFL locker room then onto an NFL field.

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01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: Oh it's been. It's been more of welcome than I

1468
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: thought it would be. Um coaches here and great players

1469
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: that just some outstanding people and everyone love each other here.

1470
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: And I can tell already, Um, I felt a lot

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01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: of love and you know, a free station. But um,

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: just coming in here and you know you're trying to

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: work and everybody here is helpful. I like just the environment.

1474
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: It's very competitive but very smart, so we don't hurt

1475
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: each other now we always want to compete with each other. Yeah,

1476
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: as you said, you came in Jordan Poor, your Micah

1477
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: Hide are kind of entrenched to the starters. You know,

1478
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: they're they've got a wealth of information, They're great veterans

1479
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: and as you said, they're probably great guys to have

1480
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: in your room learning from and watching. What do you

1481
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: think is the key for you to hanging around getting

1482
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: through training camp, making the final fifty three sum You

1483
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: can never study enough of watching taking something that I

1484
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 1: love to do, and that's something that I've been on

1485
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: a lot of. You know, these guys have been playing

1486
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: for a long time. Film studies, I discipline and stuff

1487
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: that they preached, so you know, it's something that I'm

1488
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: trying to learn from watching the taper of mic enjoying.

1489
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,560
Speaker 1: Those are very versatile players and something that you know

1490
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: I achieved I hope to achieve one day, you know,

1491
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: just learning from them, it's one of the most blessing

1492
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: part about coming here. I'm so excited to learn from

1493
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: two of the best safe piece or one of the

1494
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: best two safeties in the league, and it's just an honor.

1495
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: Like just watching them work and just plays is something

1496
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: that you know, it's just crazy to watch because their

1497
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: work ethic and their dedication and intelligence is just off

1498
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: the charts. That's something that I parted myself on. It

1499
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: helps me meet that I love them one day. You

1500
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: gotta really uh, very veteran coaching staff obviously as well

1501
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: working back there with you. UM, I know John Butler,

1502
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: you know the position, coach Leslie Fraser obviously a defensive coordinator. UM,

1503
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: just kind of working under them. What's it been like

1504
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: for you? It's amazing Coach Butler, touch Babbist, well, coach

1505
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: both of Coach Brabbist is great. UM. You know, Coach

1506
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: Frasier is very helpful, very open, very welcoming. UM, if

1507
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: you need anything learn and stuff like that. They've just

1508
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: been so welcoming and been helping me a lot, something

1509
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: that you know, I appreciate and you know, I just

1510
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 1: shariscase you know you don't get that everywhere. I know that,

1511
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to learn anything I can. What's

1512
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: your next on your agenda? I know you got these

1513
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: OTAs through the weekend. You're out here for that long,

1514
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna be back for you know, mini camps and

1515
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: all that. What what are you gonna do after after

1516
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: you've finished these OTAs, You're gonna go back out to California,

1517
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: continue to train and then what's what's next on your agenda? Shoot,

1518
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: I'll probably go back to Cenda. They're just see my

1519
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: family has been long seeing them, so let's go see

1520
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 1: them and then keep working out and you know, just

1521
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: starting to place, because I mean, the more I study,

1522
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: the places, the most tink about can get, the better

1523
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: I can be efficient, and the better I can see

1524
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: the succeed. And I saw them about success of trying

1525
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: to help the team wins, and I'm competing my loved

1526
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: winning TERK Thompson, safety for the Buffalo Bill rookie free

1527
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,560
Speaker 1: agent out of San Diego State. Thanks so much for

1528
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: coming in and talking to us. We appreciate man. Best

1529
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: of luck. We wish you all all the success in

1530
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 1: the world as a member of the Buffalo Bills, and

1531
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: we hope to see in training, camping, on the and

1532
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: on the team this fall. Sorry, thank you, thank you

1533
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: very much. No problems. Tereke Thompson, You're undrafted rookie free

1534
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: agent San Diego State. I mean, you talk about what

1535
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: he is, and you can go down and look at

1536
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: all the accolades that he had and first team Mountain West.

1537
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: The guy played really really well for the Aztecs out

1538
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: there at San Diego State, and it's nice to see it.

1539
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: I like it, and you can understand why they like him.

1540
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you see the guy play, and it's not

1541
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: just about his highlights. It's about also about the evaluations

1542
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: you can read with these guys that watch him on

1543
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: film and watch him. The guy is all around the

1544
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: ball all the time. I mean, he's a real guy,

1545
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: really good ball skills. He's very productive on the back end.

1546
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: And I think the thing that sets him apart as

1547
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: well as a young player is that he recognizes route schemes,

1548
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: he recognizes what's in front of him. He plays better

1549
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: with his eyes on the backfield rather than in a

1550
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: trail technique, so he kind of sees the big picture.

1551
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: He's a zone kind of guy, lay a lot of

1552
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: well plus in safety, that's where you kind of want

1553
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: to be. And and two things that he said. Number one,

1554
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he included coach Bobby Babbitt sorry, I

1555
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: did not when I was mentioning because obviously he works

1556
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: with the defensive backs along with John Butler. But thank

1557
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: you for including him. But also I got something he

1558
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: can do right after he's done with mandatory minicamp that

1559
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: weekend in San Diego US Open, he goes back. If

1560
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: he goes back to San Diego right after mandatory minicamp,

1561
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 1: he's done with his Bills obligations until that, well I shouldn't.

1562
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. If he's done with his obligations, he's

1563
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: done with mandatory minicamp, and if he goes back, like

1564
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: right after that, he could just go watch the US

1565
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 1: Open that weekend. Tory Pines right, Steve Tasker, along with

1566
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: Sal Capaccio One Bills Live, We're gonna take some more

1567
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 1: of your mail in and your mail bags. If you

1568
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: want to get in on this, you can. You can

1569
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: call us at eight or three oh five fifty or

1570
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. You can

1571
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: tweet at us at one Bills Live. You got questions

1572
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: for Ali about what's going on with the Buffalo Bills

1573
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: or around the league, or anything else in the world

1574
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: of sports that you want to bring up. Sal and

1575
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: I will address it as best we can. Coming up,

1576
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: We've also got NFL true false. We've got what's for lunch.

1577
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of stuff going on here. We're

1578
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: with you here until three o'clock. Come back and join us.

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health. This is

1580
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live steep

1581
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: task along with Salth Capaccio. One of the things we're

1582
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: talking about is the upcoming NFL season and how it's

1583
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: gonna look a lot different than last year. But the

1584
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: league always looks a little different because they continue to

1585
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: tinker with the rules. And one of the rules they

1586
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: just came out with that they're gonna a little, you know,

1587
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: adjust a little bit is blocking below the waist, and

1588
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: this one is probably going to be one of those rules.

1589
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 1: Some of the casual observers or even of some of

1590
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,759
Speaker 1: the die hard fans will say, while the league's getting soft,

1591
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: but it's gonna make it tough to lay some blocks

1592
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: down the field right out. Yeah, let me explain it

1593
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 1: the rule. First of all, how it's written there, This

1594
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: was tabled and it was actually agreed upon just over

1595
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: the last couple of days by the owners. There's a

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01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: tackle box and a tight endbox. The tackle box is

1597
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 1: outside the edges of the tackle positions, as people know.

1598
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 1: The tight endbox just extends out a little bit further.

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01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: Tight endbox is defined as an area that is between

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01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: two yards outside the normal tackle positions and five yards

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01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: on either side of the line of scrimmage. Okay, so

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: that known tight endbox. Here is the new rule as

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01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: it's written, Steve, blocking below the waist. Initiating the contact

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: below the waist is now illegal by players of either

1605
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: team during a scrimmage down prior to change a possession,

1606
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: unless the contact occurs in the tight endbox. You can

1607
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,799
Speaker 1: still do it then. However, players are prohibited from initiating

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01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: contact below the waist of an opponent outside the tight endbox,

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01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,560
Speaker 1: except against a runner or a player who attempting to

1610
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: catch a forward or backward pass. Which essentially this means

1611
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: if you're leading, you're a guard, you're pulling, you're a

1612
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver going out to the block a dB. You

1613
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: can't just go low. You can't just cut. You got

1614
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: to start high and go low if you want to

1615
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: do that, But you can't just go down low. What

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01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 1: was that about attempting to catch a pass except against

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01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: a runner or a player who is attempting to catch

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01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: a forward or backward pass. Right. So you can tack

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01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 1: a limb low, that's right, but you can't you cannot

1620
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: block below the waist. Yeah, that's that's gonna be hard.

1621
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: And you can think of a couple of instances where

1622
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: picture Josh Allen run to the corner of the end zone.

1623
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: Picture the Dawson knocks touchdown in San Francisco, where they're

1624
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: running out there and two guy, two offensive linemen are

1625
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: out in front of Josh. They both dive at the

1626
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: legs of the defenders. Those defenders go down, Josh walks in.

1627
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: They can't do that anymo. You can't do it now.

1628
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: It's I think for guys that play your position wide receiver,

1629
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 1: this changes a lot because this is a this is

1630
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: a technique. There's a stock block, which is you run

1631
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: up and you keep Matt Bay is stock. That's what

1632
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: it is. That's what you're gonna have to do. And now,

1633
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: but then there's also you go and when as soon

1634
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: as he makes his move, you cut right, you dive

1635
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: underneath his legs and he can't do that. Anymore. You

1636
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. And that's and I get it.

1637
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: It's gonna you're gonna have to. It's asking a lot

1638
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: of athletic ability for from wide receivers trying to block

1639
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: a dB and then you can't take his legs out. Um,

1640
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: it's all. It's the game. And some former fashion is

1641
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: becoming a lot like guys under the basket where they

1642
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: lean on each other and try and block them away

1643
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: from the ball, and you know it's a ball coming

1644
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: down for a body them up, basically blocking them out

1645
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: of the You know what the penalty is gonna be

1646
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: for illegal block belt the waist fifteen yards if you

1647
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: could call called for this, it's a fifteen yard penalty.

1648
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: By the way, you could still do it inside the

1649
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 1: tight endbox, but once you're outside that tight endbox, you

1650
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. So that is a big, big penalty.

1651
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: It's a huge penalty. It's a big penalty. But I

1652
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: get it because it's in for a lot of it's

1653
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, when you do it in the red zone,

1654
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's a it's a touchdown, and you know

1655
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 1: you write the penalty commensurate with giving up a touchdown

1656
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: is a fifteen yard pick. I wonder what was there

1657
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: an injury or something that anybody last year that that

1658
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: was the reason for this. I understand player safety has

1659
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: always been on the forefront of rules proposals and changes,

1660
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: but I don't remember anything happening last year where there

1661
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: was a specific incident where they said, oh, we have

1662
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,560
Speaker 1: to change this. The other part of this is, so

1663
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: let's I'm gonna make you, Chad Hall for a second, like,

1664
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: don't you have to now kind of make sure and

1665
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: you're out in that practice field every day and really

1666
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: reiterating this, Yeah, it's it's big. He's a Bill's wide

1667
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: receivers coach by Hill, Yeah, he'll don't you say, listen,

1668
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 1: if you can't get him, don't get him. Because you can't,

1669
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: it's better to have him tackle him than take fifty penalty. Uh,

1670
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to think of a scenario where the fifteen

1671
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: yard penalty would be better than even a tackle for

1672
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: a five yard loss. Right, you know, if you take

1673
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: a five yard loss, you're still ten yards ahead of

1674
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: where you'd be with a down to play, getting the

1675
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: down back and a penalty. But wow, yeah, yeah, it's

1676
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: almost you're almost gonna have to you almost change blocking

1677
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: and blocking assignments because you would you know, if you

1678
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: got a right angle, you can come back, you can

1679
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: cut the guy. If you can't cut him, you probably

1680
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: can't get there. That's to block him, and that's that's

1681
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,919
Speaker 1: an issue now, an issue you even if you're inside

1682
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: the tight endbox. These are normally already penalties. They're still

1683
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: going to be illegal. Cut block, clipping, peel back block,

1684
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: which just started a couple of years ago. Last year,

1685
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: chop block, and crackback like they've they've basically cut down

1686
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 1: in these over the last several years. They've put some

1687
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: of these in play, and even if you're inside the

1688
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: tight endbox, you still can't do any of that stuff.

1689
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: They're really trying to make sure that guys look out

1690
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: for one another essentially right, and it makes the game

1691
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: safer and a lot of people, you know, the old

1692
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: the old guys, will say how it's softened the game.

1693
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: It's not as physical, it's not as brutal as it

1694
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: once wasn't that is all true, But in this day

1695
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: and age, at least stars stay on the field. And

1696
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: then we just talk about how guys are playing into

1697
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: their late thirties forty years old. You guys have longer careers,

1698
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: and and I've said it time and again. You go

1699
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 1: back and look at football games on film from the sixties.

1700
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 1: It's appalling how brutal the game was. Even for a

1701
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: guy like me. It is absolutely shocking, how the physicality

1702
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: and the brutality of the game. It was a bar

1703
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: fight in certain instances, and it was within the rules

1704
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: and illegal, and it was a bar fight and the

1705
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: whistle blows and they just stopped fighting. I mean basically

1706
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: that's what it was at times. And there were brawls

1707
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: and everything all over the all over the field at

1708
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: any given time, cheap shots. It was. It's amazing, and

1709
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: they have you know, we did that out and cultivated

1710
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: a much better version of football, and the game's going

1711
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: to continue to get better. This is going to make

1712
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: sure that the people you want to see are healthy

1713
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: enough to play. And I think I'm I'm all for it.

1714
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: You know, another result of all these these these rules

1715
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: and and like you said, the way the game used

1716
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: to be played versus today. So I remember a few

1717
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: years ago being in the locker room walk in and

1718
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: NFL networks on the screen, right the guys are watching

1719
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: NFL Networks on TV, and it just happened to be

1720
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean you're in Buffalo. It just

1721
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: happened to be the Bills Titans home run throwback game.

1722
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: It was just being played that day. But some of

1723
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 1: the Bills players are watching it and one comment stood

1724
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: out to me. One of the players don't remember who said,

1725
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: and this is remember seeing this only nineteen ninety nine.

1726
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: This is this had to been twenty years. This had

1727
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: to be maybe twenty seventeen or eighteen. This happened, so

1728
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: we're talking less than twenty years after that game. And

1729
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: one of the players started laughing and goes, wow, look

1730
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 1: how big their shoulder pads are. Yeah he said that,

1731
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, you're right, Like, think of how

1732
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: reduced the equipment is now compared to that and partly

1733
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: because of what you just said. It was a weapon, man, Yes,

1734
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean look at I was a wide receiver. I

1735
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: went back and looked at I've got a picture of

1736
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 1: myself at Northwestern University and my shoulder pads as a

1737
01:21:55,640 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver, I look like a refrigerator. I'm like, wears

1738
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: big way out here. You know all everybody did and uh,

1739
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: now where it's even into the even into my pro career,

1740
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: I had big shoulder pads and uh and the game

1741
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: has he just got away from it, and it was

1742
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: it's better for it because you can't lead with your helmet,

1743
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: and so you don't. You used to just use yourself

1744
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: as a head first kind of missile. You come in,

1745
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: dive in head first and get as much inflict as

1746
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 1: much damage as you could and get up and walk away. Um,

1747
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: now that that's all illegal, it's it's funner to play

1748
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: the game when you got your shoulders back and you

1749
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: can you can move your arms and shrug. You know,

1750
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 1: you're just it feels better and more freedom to move

1751
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 1: how you want to move because in certain you know

1752
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: that equipment, as comfortable as they could make it was

1753
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: still really restrictive. Really weird to think about it, but

1754
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: that's one of the things I noticed as well. It's like,

1755
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, right, look at the pads I had. I

1756
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: remember the guy one of the Bills players said, he's

1757
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: just started laughing. As a young guy. He goes, well,

1758
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 1: look at the shoulder pads these guys wore. And this

1759
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 1: guy had to be about twenty two years old. I

1760
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: mean he was probably two years old when that game

1761
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: was played or something like that. He didn't know. That's

1762
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 1: a recent that's a recent development. Even now, you know,

1763
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: it used to be offensive line when we're all padded.

1764
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting too that the way they apply

1765
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 1: the rules and stuff, dick form follows function back in

1766
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: the days, like you know the otis sist drunk and

1767
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: and match. You know art Shell and and you know

1768
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: GANE upshaw um and all those and even when I

1769
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: first came in in the mid eighties, the offensive lineman,

1770
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, they used to be they used to have

1771
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: old forearm pad. Remember you remember kids pads in the

1772
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: back of your hand pads and elder's pads and all

1773
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: that stuff, because that's what you and stuff. Now that

1774
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: all went away because what happened was now that the

1775
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: league started allowing the offensive linemen to block with their hands,

1776
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: and so all those pads went away, and they started

1777
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: wearing gloves and that's how they did because they didn't

1778
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: want anything got to grab and they would you know,

1779
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: then they got started using vassoline on their arms before

1780
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: that was illegal. That and then the jerseys were on

1781
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 1: so tight they would tape the jerseys to the pads underneath,

1782
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: so you had to put the pads and the jerseys

1783
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: on a once. It was all once right, and so

1784
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: that like you can reach out and grab them, well

1785
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: you couldn't because it was almost like their jersey was

1786
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: painted on, so there's nothing to grab, so they couldn't

1787
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 1: get a grip and pull you away from you know,

1788
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: and control you. So all of that happened, and it

1789
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: just continues to evolve from there about what happens with

1790
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: with equipment and how it changes. It's all it all follows, Hey,

1791
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 1: what you can get away with and be how the

1792
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: game's being officiated and can your uniform hurt you in

1793
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: a in a leverage kind of way or can it

1794
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: help you? And it's you can see what it's completely

1795
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 1: different game these days than it was twenty five years ago.

1796
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: Who was the most famous Who had the most famous

1797
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 1: neck roll? Because Jim Jensen, No, I remember his Steve

1798
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: Grogan great. I love it. Steve Gross right quarterback for

1799
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: the New England pat for he was a really good

1800
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: player and um it started the Super Bowl Super Bowl

1801
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 1: twenty against the Bears with a neck roll. Well you

1802
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 1: got you know, you go with what you got. Sal

1803
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 1: and whatever makes you comfortable. If you look good, you

1804
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 1: feel good, and if you feel good, you play. I

1805
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: might have to throw this out of my Twitter. Football

1806
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: player had what was the most famous neck roll. All right,

1807
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and salth Capacco, we'll be right back. We

1808
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: got NFL true false? Uh NFL and for what's for lunch?

1809
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: Also coming up, uh and your calls and your tweet sheet.

1810
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: The mail bag is going to be open. We'll get

1811
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: to some of your tweets in when we get back.

1812
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, salth Capaccio and One Bills Live. And this

1813
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1814
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, salth Capaccio here with You're gonna take a

1815
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: call right now from Tom in West Seneca, Tom, Steve Tasker, Sacopacha,

1816
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. What do you got for us? Hell? Steve,

1817
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.

1818
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: I was watching the interview with well called mister Turret.

1819
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: I didn't quite cutch the last name, but he seemed

1820
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: like a very sincere and well spoken young kid. Clearly

1821
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: he's an athlete, and uh, I think he understands that

1822
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: if he wants to be on the team and be

1823
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: and be a player that can make an impact he's

1824
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: gonna have. He realizes he's gonna have to maybe do

1825
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: a few things a little better, and I think that's cool. Uh.

1826
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: In addition to that, he's uh. I think he understands

1827
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: that what the what coach mcderbott and Brandon Bean want

1828
01:26:53,560 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: to extract from him is his best play possible. And naturally,

1829
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: that being said, it's been known that if they're not

1830
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: extracting what they want from a certain player, that of

1831
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: course there will be uh, you know, the war. The

1832
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: door swings both ways, so to speak. But this kid

1833
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: seemed very sincere and the film footage that I saw

1834
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: in him, the brief film footage that I saw him today,

1835
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: he looks pretty down good. I think he's going to

1836
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: be an excess. I think he's going to be a

1837
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: real attribute to a team. Like I said, you can

1838
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: see hear the sincerity in his voice, and I'm looking

1839
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: forward to seeing him do well. And thanks for the thanks.

1840
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: Didn't mean to cut you out, Thanks, Tom. Yeah, you're right.

1841
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: He Um, it's obvious he fits kind of the DNA

1842
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: that the team wants. He knows what he's ahead of him,

1843
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: he know he picked this spot because and I thought

1844
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 1: it was interesting. And if you want to get an

1845
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: insight as to what kind of person he is, he says,

1846
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: And most guys go to a team that at is

1847
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: bereft of talent at whatever position they want to play,

1848
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: you know, if they don't have anybody as a thin group,

1849
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: he said. I wanted to come to Buffalo because they

1850
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: got the best safety tandem in the league. I want

1851
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: to learn from Jordan Poor, Micah Hyde. I don't watch

1852
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: these guys. If I want to get to that level,

1853
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: I gotta be around him so I can, you know,

1854
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,759
Speaker 1: emulate them. And by the way, I'll see Dean Marlow,

1855
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: the number three safety he signed with the Detroit Lions,

1856
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 1: like that spot is open. I get that, you know,

1857
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: I get that. Jikwan Johnson's been here, but he's mostly

1858
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: been a special teams guy. DeMar Hamlin comes in, Sweet Thompson,

1859
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 1: There's there is an opening for someone to win at

1860
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: that position on this football team. Steve, we have another call.

1861
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: This is Dave in Florida. Hi, Dave, You're on one.

1862
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Deal's live. Hey, guys, how are you doing to They?

1863
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 1: All right? Good? Thanks? All right? Good listen about that

1864
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: rule about blocking that you were talking about. You know,

1865
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have just as many holding calls. I would assume,

1866
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: as you would as the call that you said there would,

1867
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 1: there would call for hitting below the knee easier something

1868
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: like that. You can't. You can't chase a guy and

1869
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: and have somebody coming block. It won't work. You're right,

1870
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: you know what day, You're exactly right. That may it

1871
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: may lead to more holding calls on the outside rather

1872
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: than the illegal blocks in the back. And I'll tell

1873
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: you the truth, you'd almost rather have the hold than

1874
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: the block. It's a good call because guys get desperate

1875
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: to make the block and they just latch on and

1876
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a holding call. Yeah, that's you're right.

1877
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: I got And I got one more thing for Steve Ye. Steve.

1878
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: Back in the sixties, I used to working with Pizzeria

1879
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: lak Wana and Jack Kemp says that day, all these

1880
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 1: guys used to come in on Friday nights to see

1881
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 1: our waitresses. Okay, and you talk about bickering, the bickering bills,

1882
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 1: forget about that. The guy that they're bickering was DARRENL.

1883
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:55,799
Speaker 1: L Monica. Daryl was a lover with other guys wives

1884
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: on the team. Oh jeez, all right, well how about

1885
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 1: we just can we how about go to John and Buffalo.

1886
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: Let's do that John, you're on one Bills live. Hey guys,

1887
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: I had a question why did the Bills and not

1888
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: retain Josh Norman? And I thought he played really good

1889
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 1: last year when he was in there. He had an

1890
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 1: interception against the Jets. And is he had free agents though?

1891
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think he is a free agent.

1892
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: He did play well for the Bills. I'll give you

1893
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: one word. I think availability. I mean he also was

1894
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: he only played half the games. Yeah, I think they're

1895
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: worried about his his ability to stay healthy for sixteen

1896
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: The number one. You don't want to back up who

1897
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: can't stay healthy, or even a guy that and certainly

1898
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: don't want a starter who can't stay healthy. So while

1899
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: I think that his time in Buffalo was productively, had

1900
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: to pick six against Miami in Week seventeen. He uh,

1901
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: he spot had spot duty. He acquitted himself extremely well

1902
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: on and off the field here in Buffalo. I think

1903
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: that was a great signing by Buffalo. Um. I don't

1904
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: know if I can question why they didn't bring him back.

1905
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about the specifics of it, but

1906
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: I know this, I'm pretty sure they were pretty happy

1907
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: with the season they got out of him. And I

1908
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: know this too. They probably wanted to clear the deck

1909
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: for guys like Jane Dane Jackson, Cam Lewis and these

1910
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: guys and for Wild Goose to have a chance to

1911
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 1: take more reps and earn their spots. So I think

1912
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 1: they probably have a feeling that some of these younger

1913
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: guys will stay healthier and be more available and be

1914
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: more versatile than Josh Norman was met. That means, you know,

1915
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 1: a contribute on special teams during the practice week, that

1916
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,560
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Young guys with fresh legs can go

1917
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: both directions and practice that kind of stuff. So, while

1918
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 1: you're right, I like Josh Norman. I thought it was

1919
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: a great signing and he played well for him in

1920
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: a great season. I think what Salsa, I think the

1921
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: availability in the age, and they want to make sure

1922
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: they want to clear the decks for the young guys

1923
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: to spread their wings. And in his experience, he's going

1924
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: to cost more. I mean, you know, that's just a

1925
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: simple reality of minimums, even as minimums, even even as

1926
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: minimum is going to be a lot higher than than

1927
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: most of these guys on the neck roll question. I

1928
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,560
Speaker 1: did tweet it out, Steve. I asked our listeners and

1929
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 1: our viewers who had the best neck roll? I asked

1930
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: our follower, my followers on Twitter, and a couple of

1931
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 1: your teammates. Have I mentioned Mitch Farat? I think he

1932
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: played you played with Mitch right, and that's right. Jim Richard.

1933
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: Jim Richard had one. Really he didn't have a neck roll.

1934
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 1: He had his helmet like attached to his shoulder pats.

1935
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, there's a that's right. I think that's right.

1936
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 1: His shoulder pats kind of raised up in the back there.

1937
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: But there are a couple of Brian Cox but the

1938
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: same thing with Brian. Brian Bosworth is on here getting

1939
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: a couple of those. Somebody said, best neck roll ever's

1940
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 1: Jack Lambert. He's had a good one. Yeah, there you go.

1941
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 1: There you go that there's a ton of them out there,

1942
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: and that's something that has gone by the waist. I

1943
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 1: haven't see him anymore. Right, Oh, well, now back. We

1944
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: also had opened up our mail bag this today for you,

1945
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 1: our listeners, and we've got a bunch of responses to that.

1946
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: Corey tweets and he says, leading up to the draft,

1947
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: you guys meaning me and Chris Brown, and I don't

1948
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 1: know about you, so you can you can chime in

1949
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: on this. Leading up to the draft, you guys said,

1950
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: we don't need an upgrade at running back because it

1951
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: starts up front. Since they brought everyone back on the

1952
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: old line, how is the run game improved? And the

1953
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: simple aunt answers this, and we talked about it at length.

1954
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 1: They never had the five guys they thought were gonna

1955
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: be their starting offensive lineman on the field. And except

1956
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: for three snaps Cody four John Feliciano pulled peck muscle,

1957
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: was out till week five, six or seven, something like that.

1958
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: He came back. Three snaps into that game, Mitch Morse

1959
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: goes down with a concussion. John Feliciano moves down to

1960
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: guard or down to the center. They bring in I

1961
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 1: think Ryan Bates or Ryan Bates or Brian Winters off

1962
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 1: the bench, Cody Ford goes to left guard, and then

1963
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 1: Mitch Morse is out of the game for I don't

1964
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: know if it's a week or two weeks. But then

1965
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 1: when he comes back, they're gonna they're gonna finally five

1966
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: have their five starting, So Mitch Morse is gonna go back,

1967
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: and Mitch Morse got held out an extra week if

1968
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: you don't if you remember, then he gets plugged back

1969
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: in at center. Feliciano goes to guard, Cody Ford goes

1970
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: to left guard, and then the two tackles Darryl Williams

1971
01:33:55,560 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: and Dion Dawkins. Three plays into that game, Cody Ford

1972
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: get or. In the meantime, Cody Ford goes down with

1973
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: a season ending the injury, so he's out. So now

1974
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: Ryan Bates is in, or Brian Winters is in whoever

1975
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: they else they put in. So they never had the

1976
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: fighter went in fighter, so and and and I'm gonna,

1977
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: by the way, great oral history of the offensive line

1978
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: last year right there. That was amazing. It was they

1979
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 1: never had the guys they wanted. Here's an answer I'm

1980
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: gonna give Corey and I and I've said this, and

1981
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 1: people kind of poo poo this when I say it,

1982
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 1: But I think Steve you'll appreciate this as a former player.

1983
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't always have to be a personnel change. You

1984
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: can also improve through coaching and game planning and understanding

1985
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: what didn't work last year versus what worked, what certain

1986
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: looks and sets like. You can improve in those things.

1987
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: You can also have your guys improved through reps and

1988
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,600
Speaker 1: just being better. But you know they're gonna examine what

1989
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: went wrong last year in the run game, and it's

1990
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: not just going to be on a change of a

1991
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: player or two. They can do some other things. Well, yeah,

1992
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 1: they signed Mad Breedam and they drafted three offensive linemen. Yes, yeah,

1993
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: that should not go unnoticed. That's right. Three off three

1994
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: offensive lineman got drafted, so and I think each of

1995
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:04,600
Speaker 1: them could could be on the seam and have a

1996
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: competition's gonna make them better. And they signed Forrest lamp

1997
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 1: who started sixteen game sixteen game for the Chargers. They

1998
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 1: brought in some guys. So if if the guys they

1999
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: signed to these deals, if if the five guys that

2000
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: got on the field last year for the Buffalo Bills

2001
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:21,560
Speaker 1: come back and haven't improved, they will not get a

2002
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: chance to do it any further. They're gonna get the

2003
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: best five on the field. They improved their offer. I

2004
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: think the injury point is the biggest point you made,

2005
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: though they're the best one. That's right. They shuffled around.

2006
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: John Feliciano was out when he came in. Three plays later,

2007
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: Morris is out. When Morrise comes back. In the meantime,

2008
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Cody Ford had been out. So now they never had

2009
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 1: the five guys they thought they were gonna have on

2010
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 1: the field. And I'm not saying that those five guys

2011
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: are going to be some sort of a magic, magic elixir,

2012
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 1: because what sal said is exactly right. They'll know more

2013
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: so this year with their run game and what they

2014
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 1: can do better schematically than they did last year. No preseason,

2015
01:35:58,280 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: none at all. That stuff took him a long long

2016
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: time to get going. And then the shuffling down inside

2017
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 1: between both guards. All of it contributed to them not

2018
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 1: running the ball as well as they wanted to, not

2019
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 1: more often. I don't think they're going to run it

2020
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 1: more often than they did last year. If they just

2021
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: want to run it more, consider they don't want any

2022
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 1: they'd rather not have a second and nine, you know,

2023
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 1: if it's second and four, they don't want to have

2024
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: to throw it. You know, they can pick it up

2025
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 1: on a second down with four yards ago. That kind

2026
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: of stuff. Just run it more effectively. They won't run

2027
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: it more often. I don't think this year, But you're right,

2028
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 1: it's a good question. If you bring it back the

2029
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 1: same guys on the same roster, what's going to change

2030
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: and what's going to get better? The competition inside the

2031
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: room is going to be better because if those guys

2032
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: don't play better, they're gonna try and find somebody who

2033
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 1: will if they're not satisfied. So well, Cody Ford, I

2034
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 1: think Cody Ford is a key to this. He's a

2035
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 1: third year player. But Steve, when we come back, I

2036
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: want to talk about some second year players. That's right,

2037
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: and that's our question for the day. We kind of

2038
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: pushed it off until you know, this last hour of

2039
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: the show, and we talked yesterday about the new acquisition

2040
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,839
Speaker 1: that you're excited to see in the Buffalo Bill's uniform.

2041
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's Emmanuel Sanders, anybody else that you

2042
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: know that that might be the guy you know, Greg Russo,

2043
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 1: Boogie Basham, the new guys that have come into the room.

2044
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: Who are you excited to see today? Who's the second

2045
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 1: year player, the guy that you saw last year that

2046
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 1: you want to see most out of Who are you

2047
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: most excited to see in their second years that guys

2048
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:29,440
Speaker 1: like like Tyler Bass, Zach Moss, Gabriel Davis, aj Epinezza,

2049
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins who we never have seen on the field Er,

2050
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson. Those are just a few of the eight

2051
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: or nine guys that are considered second year players. Listen,

2052
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, tweet at us or call us and tell

2053
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 1: us what you think. Steve Tasker along with Salthcopacho. We'll

2054
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 1: be right back after the break. This is One Bills

2055
01:37:45,680 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: Live on Buffalo Bills Radio. Ad Steve Tasker, who has

2056
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: been all over the fields, kind of unique. He was

2057
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you. Steve, Steve

2058
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the straded beer of normalcy.

2059
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. Chief Tasker, Salth Capaccio

2060
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: taking you for about another hour here and we're we've

2061
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: been asking you are you know our listeners are faithful listeners.

2062
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 1: What your questions are? We opened up the mail bag.

2063
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: We always get questions about everything under the sun. We

2064
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: got a bunch of stuff going on. We had one

2065
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: from JT coming in. He said, sorry, I had to sing.

2066
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: He said his question is what a star? And we

2067
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 1: got a couple of questions about star lotuleleae. What if

2068
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 1: he didn't want to play? What are we gonna do

2069
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: next to Ed Oliver? So much has been said about,

2070
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, Star Lotula's presence really helping Ed Oliver out.

2071
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Harrison Phillips, is gonna be Justin

2072
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 1: Zimmer Or do you think one of the draft picks

2073
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: can play inside? Maybe boogie bash him? M Yeah. If

2074
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: Starr doesn't come back and he doesn't play well, or

2075
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: if he decides to end his career and retire as

2076
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 1: we had suggested as well earlier today, Yeah, it does

2077
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 1: leave a hole in their roster. And it has been

2078
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 1: a long time since starlot La has played football, and

2079
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to remember what a difference he makes,

2080
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 1: and it's hard to know. We only may never. We

2081
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 1: won't know for a while until he comes back and

2082
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 1: starts practicing. If he's gonna make a difference for the

2083
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, it'll be difficult. They're not going to release him.

2084
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 1: His salary cap hit is seven point five million. If

2085
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 1: they release him outright, it's an eleven point eleven million

2086
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,560
Speaker 1: and change cap hit. Quite frankly, they need him to

2087
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: come back and play, and they need him to come

2088
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 1: back and play well. They had a great season last

2089
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: year without him. Maybe it is a different season with him,

2090
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 1: But I can't have a hard time believing it wouldn't

2091
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 1: have been better with Star in the Star low to

2092
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 1: lay in the lineup. He's a big piece. He's a yeah,

2093
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: he's a big piece. Um. I just I just stick

2094
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 1: with start right um. And if he's not there, they

2095
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: do have to replace. They don't have a true one

2096
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 1: technique on the roster. They really don't. Um. You know,

2097
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: if you want to put Harrison Phillips there, if you

2098
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: want to put Vernon Butler, Justin Zimmer, They're not Star.

2099
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: They're not that big space eating body, the guy that

2100
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 1: takes up double other guys to move. Those guys are

2101
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 1: very difficult to find because they're they're genetically different. Star

2102
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: is a big dude. Ted Washington is a guy I

2103
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: played with, Curly Kulp. Guys like that. Um. Mike Stendrud

2104
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 1: from the old Oilers teams that I played with. Fred

2105
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: Smerless was a kind of a one of a kind athlete.

2106
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 1: They're different breed. Now, if you want to talk about someone,

2107
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 1: if they have to replace him, if they could go

2108
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: outside the team if he didn't play, Kawan Short is

2109
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: still a free agent. He had he has experience with

2110
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 1: McDermott um, Eric Washington, delone coach in Carolina. I don't know.

2111
01:40:58,000 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: I'd have to go look and see how much he's

2112
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: actually played the one technique. But he's a bigger body,

2113
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: he's he's a guy that's about Starr size. I mean

2114
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 1: that's something. But but this is, you know what, what's

2115
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: really going to happen. If Star plays, ed Oliver is

2116
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 1: going to be better, and Tremaine Edmonds is going to

2117
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 1: be better, and Matt Mlano is going to be better.

2118
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 1: Because the way this defense runs, Steve as you know,

2119
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: it is so much the sum is greater than the parts.

2120
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 1: The Bill's defense is about team defense. That's what it

2121
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,759
Speaker 1: truly is. And they need everybody kind of working in concert.

2122
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: If they don't have that that position to help out,

2123
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna help the run game for those other

2124
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: guys to be able to stop it. Vernon Butler will

2125
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: be a bigger, bigger role than a role like he

2126
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 1: did last year. Vernon Butler's on the menu, Starlo to

2127
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 1: La Harrison Phillips. There just not that many guys because

2128
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: those bodies that big are hard to find. Um, But

2129
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us, me included, are really

2130
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: counting on Starlo to La to play and play well. Ye,

2131
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 1: he's been off for a while. We'll see if he

2132
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: can dredge up the passion to come back and prepare

2133
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: every day to play. Um. It's gonna be interesting. It's

2134
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see. But um. We have another

2135
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: tweet on the tweet sheet sal This was Hey Sile

2136
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 1: and Steve who leads the team in sacks this year?

2137
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 1: I say, Ed, Oliver, what do you guys think go bills?

2138
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 1: Good question, Ed Oliver. I'm having a hard time getting there.

2139
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a hard he's gonna do you have

2140
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 1: to play better than he has and get more production

2141
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: than he he has. Star he will, I think right.

2142
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 1: He's also well Yeah, and Jerry Hughes is going to

2143
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: be in a contract year. He'll be he'll want to

2144
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 1: play his very best. I'm gonna give you a name

2145
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 1: that Greg Russo, who might take It might take people

2146
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: a little while to get to to answer this, but

2147
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 1: not me. Here's my dark horse for leading the bills

2148
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: and sacks this year. Ready fa obadah, He had five

2149
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: and a half last year with the Carolina Panthers, and

2150
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 1: I think he's so raw Steve. This is a guy

2151
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 1: who didn't start playing football until he was in his

2152
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 1: mid twenties. At the NFL, he didn't he didn't come

2153
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 1: in the league until he's twenty six years old as

2154
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 1: part of the International Pathways program. He's actually part of

2155
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 1: it before that, but then he actually wanted winning a

2156
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: job and getting a spot FABA. If you're if you're

2157
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 1: watching on the screen on TV on the TV side

2158
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: of things, you can see some highlights here. This guy

2159
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 1: can play and he's long. I think he fits perfectly.

2160
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 1: And he comes from again Carolina, where Eric Washington was

2161
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: um who had coached him. He's on a one yield

2162
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: year deal. It's to prove it. I think this is

2163
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 1: a guy that is a dark horse candidate to at

2164
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 1: the end of the year, we're going, hey, led the team,

2165
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: maybe even gett into double digit SAX. I mean he

2166
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 1: had five and a half last year. Yes, it's f

2167
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: a Obada, Obada, I keep saying, Oh, I keep doing that.

2168
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Obada. We've I've told the story on the

2169
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:48,639
Speaker 1: show yesterday. He was Yeah, he was in the Pathways program.

2170
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: I was on the sideline as the reporter for CBS

2171
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: when the Carolina Panthers played the Cincinnati Bengals two years ago,

2172
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 1: three years ago and his first game, right, first game,

2173
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 1: that's right, and he crushed it. He was the NFC

2174
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the weak first ever NFL game. He

2175
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. And the other day they had the open Priy.

2176
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,799
Speaker 1: We were out a watching practice, uh, the only practice

2177
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 1: that was open to the to the media, and we

2178
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,719
Speaker 1: watched you know, stretch and all that, and we were watching.

2179
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: We'll play that interview. I did post game with Fa

2180
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 1: after that. After right after this, he I was out

2181
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 1: there watching Rousseau. Greg Russo's out there. You go, wow,

2182
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 1: look at Rousseau, he's so And then you look over this,

2183
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 1: you know another guy who's really close to him. He's

2184
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 1: like Bam Johnson's kind of tall to you. Remember when

2185
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: Sam Johnson Johnson and I go, who is that guy?

2186
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:38,560
Speaker 1: And I looked, I go and I had to and

2187
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: I had to look down. I had to look at

2188
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: my roster because I didn't recognize him, and like, oh

2189
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 1: my gosh, look at that guy. That's who is that?

2190
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 1: It's Fa Obada. Yeah, man, his arms, he stands out

2191
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 1: in a group of guys that stand out. You know,

2192
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 1: you remember remember when Manny Lawson played here in his

2193
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 1: arms were like they reached down to the ground when

2194
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 1: he walks right, That's what this guy reminds me of.

2195
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 1: He's so long, he's huge. Yeah, he's got it. He's

2196
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 1: very tall and he's very rangy. And this is we

2197
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: got the interview that I did after the game when

2198
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 1: he had like forced fumble, he had a tipball in

2199
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. First game ever as a

2200
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: pro fa Obada post game with fa Obada, this is

2201
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: the first time you were on a practice squad last year.

2202
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: You're active for your first game, you got a sack

2203
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: and an interception. Tell me how you're feeling. I'm over

2204
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: the moon. I'm happy, Like once caning describe our field.

2205
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 1: You know, he's making the most opportunity. And I said,

2206
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm happy, you know, I'm plus we won. It wouldn't

2207
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 1: it would have felt it sweet. We didn't win, And

2208
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: you said, I want to ask you how you felt,

2209
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 1: and you said you want to I want to do this. Yeah,

2210
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 1: it was. It was quite a moment for him. He

2211
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 1: had been he had been languishing on the practice squad.

2212
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 1: You know, he was a guy that he was like

2213
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 1: a Christian Wade and they know each other, they're friendly.

2214
01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: And he had been on just trying to get a chance, trying,

2215
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:02,759
Speaker 1: and it got to the point for the Carolina Panthers

2216
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 1: and they decided, okay, let's give the guy a shot.

2217
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: He steps on, he has an interception as a sack

2218
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: and just it was like they turned him loose. And

2219
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: you can tell the exuberance he had. He's a he's

2220
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: a wonderful Guy's his story is unbelievable. He was a

2221
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 1: victim of human trafficking m his family, his sister, I

2222
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: believe him and his sister, his family was taking advantage

2223
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 1: of and it was and you know, luckily he ended

2224
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 1: up doing what he's doing and he was he was

2225
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 1: saved and survived it and is doing very well. But um,

2226
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:35,520
Speaker 1: this his story of over what he had to overcome

2227
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 1: and his road to the NFL is individual and unique

2228
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 1: among everybody. The guy and he's he's as you can tell,

2229
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 1: he was born in Nigeria. Then then he went to

2230
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: the to the Netherlands and from the Netherlands, they they

2231
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: contracted a company to let them emigrate to London, and

2232
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 1: in that process they were scammed and Fa and his

2233
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 1: sister and this is when he was like twelve and

2234
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 1: his sister was I think younger. Um. I can't remember

2235
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 1: the details of that, but they were abandoned and the

2236
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: streets of London with nothing. So and and then in

2237
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 1: the in the way he got into American football was

2238
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 1: he saw a friend of his who like got jacked up, basically,

2239
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: like the guy got really big from the last time.

2240
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 1: He seemed like, dude, what what are you doing? He said,

2241
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm playing American football? Like what I want to

2242
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 1: look like that? I want to play And that's kind

2243
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 1: of how he got in there. You know what. You

2244
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 1: know what struck me about that video though? We just

2245
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 1: watched dapper Steve Tasker. Steve like, where what are your

2246
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: kids getting married after this game? Or something? Looks great?

2247
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 1: I was for Jay, can we like just freeze the

2248
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: video there? Look at Steve? Wow, they dressed me for that?

2249
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: What can I say? Yeah, I've I've got like, no, lie,

2250
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 1: I got thirteen of those blazers. Oh man, I did?

2251
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 1: I got like thirteen of those blazers. They and the

2252
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 1: shirt and the tie there. It's it's all very nice.

2253
01:47:56,040 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 1: They take care of you. But yeah, that um that

2254
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 1: that was fairly recently. I think it was. I think

2255
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 1: the sideline I was with rich Gannon and Kevin Harlan.

2256
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: They were in the booth and U great crew. I

2257
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 1: loved my time at CBS. The crews there were great.

2258
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 1: Everybody I worked with there for two decades was phenomenal.

2259
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 1: And uh, that was I think I was my last

2260
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 1: year doing it. That was it was rough while I

2261
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: was I was doing the show with Murph and then

2262
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 1: on the weekends it was like a seven day a

2263
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: week game. But that I think that was one of

2264
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 1: the most interesting games I've seen in a while for

2265
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. The thing I remember about it

2266
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: is Carolina won. The reason they won, certainly fa Obada

2267
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: was a factor in it. But during that game, one

2268
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: guy got injured and changed the entire face of that game,

2269
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: and it was Aj Green. I was just going to

2270
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: guess they had no answer for him defensively, and that

2271
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 1: was the first time I've ever witnessed a game where

2272
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 1: one team offensively really was leaning on They were they

2273
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 1: had that game in control. They were really playing well

2274
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: and in control and when he exited, I could not

2275
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,560
Speaker 1: believe that the change in personality on both sides of

2276
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 1: the ball, offensively for the Bengals, defensively for the Carolina Panthers,

2277
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 1: and on the other side too. The whole game changed

2278
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 1: when aj Green just couldn't play anymore, pulled a hamstring

2279
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 1: and then you know you got Fao Botta getting a

2280
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,600
Speaker 1: sacket in an interception, and the whole thing turned and

2281
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 1: the game got away from Cincinnati, a game they felt

2282
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,759
Speaker 1: like they probably should have won, and they didn't because

2283
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 1: one of their key players got injured. If you say

2284
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 1: the phrase a game that got away from Cincinnati and

2285
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 1: they felt they should have won, you could apply it

2286
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 1: to any game they've played over the last three years.

2287
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: I think. I think that's the Cincinnati Bengals over the

2288
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 1: last three years. We do have a phone call. Bonnie

2289
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: is in a car and wants to talk to us. Hi,

2290
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 1: Bonnie or I'm one Bill's live. Hi guys. Hello, Hey.

2291
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 1: I know you're asking about new players and who you're

2292
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:59,839
Speaker 1: most excited about, But in my opinion, I'm most excited

2293
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 1: to see Isaiah finally get a chance and get a

2294
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 1: permanent role. Isaiah Hodgens I like it. I like it, Yeah, Bonnie,

2295
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Speaker 1: I like it. This is a what do you think,

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01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 1: Steve about Isaiah um, you know, sliding into the number

2297
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 1: one possibility, sliding it in the number one return man

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01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 1: role where Adrew Roberts, but also giving them what he's

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01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 1: given them. I think Isaiah did a great job on

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01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 1: offense last year. One called the pup. Yeah, and you

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01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: think too. When that game in Week seventeen, they didn't

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01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 1: know how long. They didn't want they didn't want digs

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01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 1: to play a whole bunch. They didn't want, you know,

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01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: all these guys to go. They had that they couldn't

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01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 1: improve or unimprove their playoffs standing. They want to get

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01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 1: through that game, and they featured Isaiah McKenzie and he

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01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 1: dominated the game. He had three touchdowns, He had a

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01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: punt return for a touchdown, two receptions for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: They featured him in the run game every They just said, listen,

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01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: let's use him this week and give him a chance.

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01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 1: And man, oh man, he came through in a big way.

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01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 1: Isam McKenzie on a and when he was called upon

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01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 1: by the Bills, he showed up big against the number

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01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 1: one scoring defense in the league. This is the punt

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01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 1: return we're looking at right here, and it was it

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01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: was his game and that right there, the things he

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01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 1: did in that week seventeen game probably gave him, i

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01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 1: would say, a little bit of marketability in the free

2319
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: agent mark, and he came back to the Buffalo Bills

2320
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 1: is playing for less than two million dollars on a

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01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 1: one year deal. He's going to be highly motivated to

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01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: get it done and he may get his chance to

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01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: be the number one return guy. He's gonna have to

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01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:40,639
Speaker 1: compete against Marques Stevenson who they drafted Brandon Paul. But again,

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01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 1: it's not he's not just a return man. He played

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01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,640
Speaker 1: on offense and he did a really nice job. They

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01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 1: trust him, They hanned him the ball they get, you know,

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01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: they put him on the field and put the ball

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01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 1: in his hands. I think when he's on the field,

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01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,839
Speaker 1: probably I'm I'm just saying that the way it feels

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01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: to me. I don't have numbers to back it up,

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01:51:57,640 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 1: but it feels to me like when Isam mckenziy's on

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01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 1: the field on offense like he has been, he gets

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01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 1: targeted a higher percentage of the time than anybody else.

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01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it goes to him every time he's

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01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 1: on the field. But the guy is a factor when

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01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: he's out there. They use him a ton when they

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01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 1: put him out there, and he's he's proven to be

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01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: very productive and in the role they've had for him,

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01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to change it that

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01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 1: much except for the kick returning. Yeah, and you don't

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01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 1: know if that will impact how much he does see

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01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: the field on offense. He do a deep receiving corps

2344
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: by the way, but it'll be interesting to see that.

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01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 1: And they've got to Andre Robert I've said this before too,

2346
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 1: the kick return or there's a ton of guys who

2347
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 1: can who are really good with the ball in their hands.

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01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: They catch it and they can run with it. What

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01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 1: made Andre Roberts a really good on Pro Bowl caliber

2350
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 1: return man was his decision making when to fair catch it,

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01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: when to run with it. Certainly when he when he

2352
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 1: carries the football, tucks it away and runs he's really good, obviously,

2353
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 1: and so is Isam McKenzie. But the decisions that Andre

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01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 1: Roberts makes back there are really, really stellar, and that's

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01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 1: really what I look for as a special teams guy

2356
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 1: is a guy that makes every right decision. If there's

2357
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 1: room to run, catch it and run. If there's not,

2358
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: just make sure that we we end up with the football.

2359
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 1: Don't let the ball drop on the ground, you know,

2360
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 1: you don't let the ball bounce towards our end zone.

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01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 1: Field every kick and feel it the right way and

2362
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: do make the right decision. That's sounds easy, it's it

2363
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 1: is not easy. It's not easy looking up at the

2364
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: ball because you really have to concentrate on it and

2365
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 1: then no, and that there are guys coming down, you know, yeah,

2366
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: literally blowing snot bubbles, trying to get to you to

2367
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 1: take you know, take your head off, and they're gonna

2368
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 1: bring the They're gonna bring the violence towards you. You

2369
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 1: got to be able to be take a deep breath

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01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: and catch it and run with it or fair catch

2371
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 1: it late if you feel like somebody's getting close and

2372
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: you gotta make you gotta sprint hard to make every

2373
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 1: kick catch. You get a bad kick. A bad kick

2374
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 1: turns into a great kick when it hits the ground,

2375
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: and that's it's hard to come back. That you gotta

2376
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 1: be ready for it. So it's you know, and if

2377
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 1: you look at the receiving Corey obviously digs Beasley, Davis

2378
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 1: and Sanders. Okay, they're gonna be here, okay, And now

2379
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 1: you have the fifth spot to me goes to McKenzie

2380
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:11,680
Speaker 1: because if if he can, if he's the return man,

2381
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 1: now that gives you, that gives you flexibility around the roster.

2382
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 1: If Isaiah McKenzie win's the return spot, that's also your

2383
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 1: fifth receiver, Steve. Now now you have an extra spot

2384
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 1: around the roster to play with because you're not keeping

2385
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 1: and Andre Roberts so to speak, and another receiver, but

2386
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 1: also Jake Kumero, Duke Williams, Isaiah Hodgens, these guys, I mean,

2387
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: somebody's not making this thing right. And these are good players,

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01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 1: they really are. And they're guys that have produced at

2389
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 1: for the team. Kumerow and limited limited spots, Duke Williams

2390
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 1: and limited spots. Kumearro was playing quite a bit last year.

2391
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 1: He was activated to cover kicks. He's a big body receiver,

2392
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 1: he can run. Caught the touchdown pass in Denver just

2393
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 1: before they had to release him, and then he went

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01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 1: to Saint New Orleans. Now he's back and just famously,

2395
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 1: by the way, now the guy that it has apparently

2396
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: started the and stirred up the Aaron Rodgers controversy and

2397
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 1: green Baby because they said he was mad that they

2398
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: released him. Because why because Aaron Rodgers knows he's a

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01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 1: good player. Seriously, Aaron Rodgers came out and said, I

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01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 1: love the way Jake Krumer was playing. Has been great.

2401
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 1: He's getting doing anything you want. And Aaron Rodgers becoming

2402
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 1: one of my favorite targets. And that week the pat

2403
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 1: cuts him and was not happy. He was not happy. No,

2404
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 1: and so that's going on. But certainly josh Admon liked him.

2405
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 1: He gunned it into him in the back of the

2406
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: end zone, right in the front well in front of

2407
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 1: the end zone and against Inver for a touchdown in

2408
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: the one game that he got a chance to get

2409
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 1: in there and play. Yeah, it's a deep field at

2410
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver here in Buffalo they kept I think they

2411
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 1: activated six guys for game day on a number of occasions.

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01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 1: I would be and I agree they'll probably do the

2413
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 1: same thing here. I would be thinking that they're going

2414
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 1: to do that again this year. I think that's going

2415
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 1: to be their philosophy, especially with Immanuel Sanders and Hodgens

2416
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 1: in the mix. But again, if you can get part

2417
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 1: of the reason they did that because Roberts. If you

2418
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 1: can get that out of one out two McKenzie and

2419
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 1: Roberts were there. Now, if it's only McKenzie, then you

2420
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: might have to go five, yes, but you also you

2421
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 1: also could go more. And if you got a guy

2422
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 1: like Kumero can cover kicks and you're gonna run a

2423
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 1: lot of spread four right, And that's also the you

2424
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 1: gotta cover kicks. Plus you could also keep Kumaro and

2425
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: say a Duke Williams or an Isaiah Hodgins. Then all

2426
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got you got Emmanuel Sanders, and

2427
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: you got Cole Beasley, and you got Diggs. If you

2428
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 1: throw out Kumaro, Hodgens, Sanders, you got three guys that

2429
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:38,839
Speaker 1: are all six six two plus. Right, that's a different

2430
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,240
Speaker 1: wide receiving core than you do when you got Cole

2431
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 1: Beasley and Digs on them. But not that you're gonna

2432
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: take Diggs off the field ever. But you got big

2433
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 1: dudes to play wide out and and during the same game,

2434
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 1: you can give a team a very different look in

2435
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 1: your passing game with matchups, then you would then you

2436
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,600
Speaker 1: could otherwise if you've got six or seven guys active

2437
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: at that position, you know, So it's it's it's pretty

2438
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 1: intriguing to thinking about. He put Duke Williams, Isaiah Hodgens

2439
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 1: and Kumero out there. You got it from He got

2440
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 1: big dudes right right, So they're you know, and you

2441
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: do that in the red zone and it's like having

2442
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 1: wide receivers, except they're tight ends, you know what I mean.

2443
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 1: They're built their tallest tight end. So it's fun to

2444
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 1: think about, but that not all of them can make

2445
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 1: the team, and not all of them are going to

2446
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: be around. It's just a crowded room. It's a very

2447
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 1: crowded room, and it's fun to see. One of them

2448
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 1: is Gabriel Davis. He is a second year player. Steve,

2449
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: let's talk about second year players. When to the last

2450
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:36,560
Speaker 1: a little bit we have in the show. We can

2451
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 1: come back and do this and ask people, you know,

2452
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 1: which second year players they're really excited to see, because

2453
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis is one of them. Coming up we'll have

2454
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 1: NFL true false. And also who you think as a

2455
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 1: second year player is gonna step up for the Buffalo Bills.

2456
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, salcpaccio taking you to the top of the hour.

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01:57:50,840 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

2458
01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Lives, Cheap Tasker and Salve capaco

2459
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 1: in for Chris Brown. Here, it's our last show of

2460
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 1: the week. We're got a long weekend like the rest

2461
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 1: of you. I hope you guys all have a good one.

2462
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 1: Sal you got these plans for the By the way, Um,

2463
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 1: so my wife's actually out of town this week. It's

2464
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 1: just my son Max and I. We have dude's week,

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01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's dude's week. Yeah, we should

2466
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 1: call it a bachelor weekend. Yeah, it's dude's week. And

2467
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: um we got something. Yeah, we got some games going on.

2468
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 1: Actually got a Little League game tonight. Gotta get a

2469
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: couple of things going on this weekend with that. So

2470
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 1: he does he does flag football on Sunday. It was

2471
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 1: just between the two of us, right, you your wife

2472
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 1: will never find out and because she's do you do

2473
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 1: anything like you're not supposed to do when she's out

2474
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 1: of town with your kid, like, um no, maybe push

2475
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 1: the end of well she might be listening now, but

2476
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 1: I will say it. Last night hockey game was on.

2477
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 1: We're watching Islanders Penguins. It's getting late. I'm like, you

2478
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 1: gotta go to bed. Max, you gotta go to bed.

2479
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 1: It's like I want to watch the end of the game.

2480
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm like yeah, but I'm I'm work,

2481
01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 1: come on right. So then I said, Mommy would not

2482
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 1: let you up this late. He literally looked at me.

2483
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 1: My seven year old said, but she's not here, she

2484
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 1: won't know. That's what he said to me. That's what

2485
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It's the guy thing. You gotta listen

2486
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 1: to the bro code if you know, if right, are

2487
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 1: you gonna think listeners? Hey, Like, buddy, it's between between.

2488
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 1: You got to learn that that's right. Not that you're

2489
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 1: gonna do anything that bad, but yeah, that's right. When

2490
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: mom's out of the house. Yeah, everything, everything, just everything's

2491
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 1: a little bit relaxed. I gotta I gotta admit, even

2492
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 1: now when it's just me and my dog Verne. You know,

2493
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:34,200
Speaker 1: Verne and I have our own thing. When when it's

2494
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 1: just the two of them, there you go, so, you know,

2495
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 1: do what you want. We go out. He gets his

2496
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 1: own burger, you know, all that kind of stuff. Everything

2497
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 1: gets totally gets his own ice cream. So yeah, so

2498
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, that's good. I'm good for you and Max

2499
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:48,880
Speaker 1: a dude week. That's she's out of town for a week.

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01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 1: She's yeah, she's down Florida to visit her mom. She

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01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 1: left Mondations. I'm afraid I put my foot. I don't

2502
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 1: know if I could actually even continue to live. If

2503
01:59:58,040 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 1: my wife was out of time, I'd die. I would

2504
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, something would happen. Yeah, well, I got enough

2505
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 1: things to keep me busy. Let's say that that's what

2506
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 1: that's what's needed. Holiday week and enjoyed everybody, Sal and

2507
02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:11,240
Speaker 1: I here until the top of the hour. Here we've

2508
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 1: got We've asked our mail bag, our friends to send

2509
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 1: into our mail bag and see if they have any

2510
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 1: questions about, you know, what's going on with the bills

2511
02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 1: and everything this week. And our Friday mail bag is

2512
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 1: now on a Thursday, and it says this one's from Robin.

2513
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:27,840
Speaker 1: It says, hey, Sal, Steve, who already did that one

2514
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 1: with the sacks this year? From Kyle. Would you expect

2515
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 1: Christian Wade to take reps in preseason at kick return

2516
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:38,560
Speaker 1: punt return? Would think that rugby pass would help him

2517
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,840
Speaker 1: be a powerful returner. And I thought that as well. Sal.

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02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if if you've ever played. I played

2519
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 1: rugby in college, and I thought at running back the

2520
02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 1: skill set would transfer as well as any position on

2521
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 1: the football field to rugby. You know, when that being

2522
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: because when the balls in your hands are kind of

2523
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 1: the same, it's not quite that true. Kick returning is

2524
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:04,960
Speaker 1: a little different as well in rugby than it is

2525
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 1: in football. But I Christian Way is going to get

2526
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 1: a chance to help out. But the skill set that

2527
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 1: doesn't transfer his blocking, pass protection. And we also saw

2528
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:19,160
Speaker 1: it in the two plays that he made in the

2529
02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 1: preseason two years ago, where the second one he gave

2530
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 1: was a little screen pass he made about three guys miss,

2531
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:26,440
Speaker 1: which was phenomenal. But then as he got in he

2532
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 1: would have gotten into the end zone had he known

2533
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 1: how to run behind his own blockers. Rugby, you're not

2534
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 1: allowed to run behind blockers. The ball has to be first,

2535
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: so the guy with the ball, everybody's got to get

2536
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:39,280
Speaker 1: behind him instead of in front of him. So he

2537
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. So he got that ball

2538
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:43,200
Speaker 1: and he starts running off and he's like running away

2539
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:44,840
Speaker 1: from his guys trying to get in front of him,

2540
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:50,240
Speaker 1: and they're like going, you know, proud over here, you know,

2541
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 1: So he gets tackled on the five right, so it

2542
02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:54,440
Speaker 1: went from a touchdown to him, you know, just a

2543
02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 1: nice play. That's the kind of instincts that did not transfer.

2544
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 1: But Christian Wade is on the team. He's done everything

2545
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 1: they've asked. It's a it's a deep room at wide

2546
02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 1: at running back this year. Zach Moss and devin's Singletary

2547
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:11,879
Speaker 1: are entrance. They're good NFL football players, and Matt Breda

2548
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 1: is no slouch either. It's gonna be a hard road

2549
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 1: for Christian Waye to break into that lineup, but they're

2550
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:19,240
Speaker 1: gonna give him every opportunity, so we may see him

2551
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 1: in the preseason. I get it. It's kind of a

2552
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 1: running joke. I get Christian Wade questions all the time

2553
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:25,200
Speaker 1: because people are so fascinated by him. When I get it,

2554
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:27,320
Speaker 1: and here's the thing I want to tell people. One

2555
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 1: of the things that he gets asking me that that's

2556
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:31,920
Speaker 1: phrased this way usually Steve is why doesn't he get

2557
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:33,400
Speaker 1: more of a shot? And my question is he does

2558
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:35,280
Speaker 1: get a shot. He gets a shot every day he's

2559
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 1: The coaches are not there to lose. They want to win,

2560
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 1: and if he's good enough to play, he would have

2561
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 1: made the team by now, it doesn't mean that he's

2562
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 1: not a like he deserves. He's earned his spot on

2563
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 1: the practice squad, even because they're not going to keep

2564
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 1: a guy around that, you know, just because he's in

2565
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:51,080
Speaker 1: a part of a program that he's earned his spot

2566
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 1: on the internet and the practice squad after cuts. But

2567
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 1: if he does get a shot, he gets a shot

2568
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 1: every single day at practice, just like everyone else. I'm

2569
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 1: out there in the season watching and he's practicing. They

2570
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:04,880
Speaker 1: know what he can bring. One thing I know about

2571
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:08,280
Speaker 1: NFL coaches, they don't want to coach guys that don't

2572
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 1: have a chance, because that's exactly because it's a waste

2573
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 1: of their time. It's a good way to put it.

2574
02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 1: They don't want to coach guys that aren't going to

2575
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:14,680
Speaker 1: make the team. They don't want to waste their time

2576
02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:17,600
Speaker 1: on guys that aren't that. And they certainly won't waste

2577
02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:19,400
Speaker 1: time on guys that aren't on their team. I mean,

2578
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 1: but you know, Christian Wade is there and there he's

2579
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 1: there for a reason. They like what he brings. He's

2580
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 1: got a chance, he shows some ability, and he's got

2581
02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 1: the speed and quickness and and all the physical attributes

2582
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 1: that you want out of running back, so he'll get

2583
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:35,880
Speaker 1: his chance, just like everybody else will. But like I said,

2584
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:42,080
Speaker 1: this is a this is a really deep talented roster,

2585
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 1: a really deep talented roster, and this team's gonna have

2586
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 1: to let some really good football players go that are

2587
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 1: going to go on and play well and maybe even

2588
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:53,120
Speaker 1: play well this year in the NFL. I mean, that's

2589
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 1: how good this roster is. It's just it's the way

2590
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:57,840
Speaker 1: it comes down the pike. But Christian Wade, we're gonna

2591
02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:00,440
Speaker 1: get a look at him. I'm sure. I'm almost positive

2592
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 1: that he'll get on the field in the preseason. You'll

2593
02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 1: get a chance to see what he can do. Next.

2594
02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 1: One from the mail bag from John. He says, with

2595
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:11,840
Speaker 1: Sanders joining the squad and the development of Davis Gabriel Davis,

2596
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:15,680
Speaker 1: how much better do you think Josh can get? Any predictions?

2597
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:18,080
Speaker 1: I've said this. I don't know if you've listened to

2598
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 1: our show at all, but I've predicted this. Josh is

2599
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:26,760
Speaker 1: gonna throw for five thousand this year. I think, Wow,

2600
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 1: that's what I think. And can he get better? Yeah,

2601
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what that'll look like really, because there

2602
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:36,040
Speaker 1: were some games last year when he was just he

2603
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 1: was lighting everybody up. So yeah, he can get better,

2604
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:40,760
Speaker 1: but the way he gets better now, I don't know

2605
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:43,160
Speaker 1: if anybody's gonna be able to casually just look at it.

2606
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 1: You may be able to sense it into statistics. Certainly,

2607
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 1: if he throws for more yards, yeah, certainly. If he

2608
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 1: throws for more touchdowns, yeah, certainly, if he throws for

2609
02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 1: fewer interceptions. I get all that, But when you see

2610
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:58,920
Speaker 1: him playing a game to game basis, I don't know

2611
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:01,400
Speaker 1: how much better quarterback can look than the way he

2612
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:03,520
Speaker 1: looked in a ton of those games last year. I mean,

2613
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: the question is like, what can he do better? Where

2614
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:08,680
Speaker 1: can he improve? He's the he's the runner up to

2615
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 1: the MVP of the league. I mean, he had an

2616
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:13,560
Speaker 1: amazing year. But what's funny is about that Steve he

2617
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 1: actually answered this question himself when we spoke to him

2618
02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 1: after ots and he said one area, and I was

2619
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 1: so impressed. I think Josh is so he's so in tune,

2620
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:26,880
Speaker 1: dialed in with exactly everything precisely about his game. He said,

2621
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 1: one of the things he's working on is being better

2622
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 1: at throwing the incut. That's how minute of a detail

2623
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 1: he's even trying to work on his own game being

2624
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 1: better at throwing at the incut. He said that that

2625
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:41,040
Speaker 1: was an area where I need to get better, which

2626
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,920
Speaker 1: is amazing to me that it's not like, oh, yeah,

2627
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 1: I want to you know, be able to run the

2628
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:47,400
Speaker 1: offense better or whatever. No, you get a lot of

2629
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 1: generalities from players, right this guy is he knows exactly

2630
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 1: what route he needs to work on to take his

2631
02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:56,360
Speaker 1: game to the next level, which is amazing to me. Yeah,

2632
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: And I think it's it's interesting too that, you know,

2633
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:02,400
Speaker 1: the stuff that he's going to be working on is

2634
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:07,200
Speaker 1: kind of above. It's a a level now that it's different.

2635
02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 1: And I said this as well, when when we used

2636
02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:12,320
Speaker 1: to be you know, big Josh Allen defenders, when we

2637
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,080
Speaker 1: saw him play as a rookie and he was behind

2638
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:15,840
Speaker 1: a bad offensive line and he was trying to make

2639
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 1: every play and he was playing like a you know,

2640
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:20,160
Speaker 1: a kid in the playground for the most part. And

2641
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 1: then second year, then in his in the league where

2642
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 1: they go ten and six, still doing some of that,

2643
02:06:24,480 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, although he completed you know, five or six

2644
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:30,040
Speaker 1: and a half percent more of his passes, still did

2645
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 1: still playing good, but he was still the best player

2646
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:34,320
Speaker 1: on the field. But he was still a little bit

2647
02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:37,880
Speaker 1: all over the joint. No preseason last year, we had

2648
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 1: no idea what he was going to look like. They

2649
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 1: unfurled this offense with four wides on Week one against

2650
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:49,160
Speaker 1: the Jets, and the Jets have no answer for no answer,

2651
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 1: and Josh is throwing. He throws for three bills Week

2652
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 1: one of the seed never done it before, throws for

2653
02:06:55,800 --> 02:07:00,440
Speaker 1: three bills. Week two, throws for four bills. I mean,

2654
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 1: he's just he's lightening it up. It's like, where did

2655
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 1: this come from? And think, okay, okay, you know, just

2656
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:06,320
Speaker 1: let's take a deep breath here, because you know he's

2657
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:09,200
Speaker 1: still Josh. He's still gonna be It never happened. It

2658
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:11,520
Speaker 1: really never happened. And I think the one thing that

2659
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 1: I looked to for last season and where he's gonna

2660
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:18,520
Speaker 1: head the one thing that's also off the table. You say,

2661
02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 1: last year we showed even last year he said, well

2662
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 1: he showed flash. He didn't show flashes. He was good

2663
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 1: Week one, the week seventeen again, he was the runner

2664
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 1: up to the league MVP. He was great. He's not

2665
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:31,840
Speaker 1: going anywhere. No, he is that guy. I believe he

2666
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 1: is that guy. Now that's the floor. I agree with

2667
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:39,320
Speaker 1: you and now, especially because Brian Dable is still the team,

2668
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 1: may the team may disintegrate around him, or he may

2669
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:43,960
Speaker 1: have guys play better, or you know, like Zach Moss

2670
02:07:44,040 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 1: or Devin Singlet may all like pop out and have

2671
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:48,640
Speaker 1: a fourteen hundred yard rushing season that kind of thing,

2672
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:51,800
Speaker 1: and they get more opportunities. But Josh is that guy.

2673
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:55,240
Speaker 1: Josh is the sixty sixty nine, sixty nine point two

2674
02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 1: or sixty eight point two completion percentage guy. Now he's

2675
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 1: got an offense that he owns now, He's got a

2676
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:04,040
Speaker 1: coaching staff that believes in him. He's got a team

2677
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 1: that believes in him. He's he's done it now, he's

2678
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 1: got his option picked up. He's mad, he's made a

2679
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:13,240
Speaker 1: ton of cash. He's still working hard and getting better.

2680
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what a better Josh Allen will look like.

2681
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 1: There have been multiple, multiple years in the NFL where

2682
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 1: the season that Josh Allen put up his quarterback of

2683
02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills last year, is the MVP season. I mean,

2684
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 1: the only reason he didn't win the MVP is because

2685
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:32,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was out of his mind. Aaron Rodgers put

2686
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:35,680
Speaker 1: up a thirteen and three games incredible thirteen and three season.

2687
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 1: I know, Rodgers waiting the MVP. Yeah, oh yeah. He

2688
02:08:40,160 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 1: had fifty three touchdowns Josh had I think all poll

2689
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 1: I think he had like forty six something like that.

2690
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just you know, there were thirteen games,

2691
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:54,280
Speaker 1: and one of them he lost on a hail Mary

2692
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:57,360
Speaker 1: after he had had this heroic drive to take the

2693
02:08:57,480 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 1: lead in Arizona. Remember the driving it that that throw

2694
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:03,240
Speaker 1: he makes to Steph Diggs in Arizona to give him

2695
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:06,120
Speaker 1: the lead with twenty four seconds left was epic, and

2696
02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:10,400
Speaker 1: it's like forgotten. So so so you say Camping gets better.

2697
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: I just want him to be that guy. You say

2698
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 1: five thousand, which, by the way, seventeen game season. Let's

2699
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:17,560
Speaker 1: assuming he plays two. He might not because obviously they

2700
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 1: could get it wrapped up. But what about I'll give

2701
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 1: you another number. He had thirty seven touchdown passes last year.

2702
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:25,080
Speaker 1: Can he get to forty plus? Yes? I do. I

2703
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 1: think so too, Yeah, I think so. I think so too.

2704
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 1: The way they run their offense, and I mean Gabe

2705
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 1: Davis had three or four touchdown five touchdowns called back

2706
02:09:34,760 --> 02:09:38,160
Speaker 1: one drop, So yeah, he could absolutely do that. He

2707
02:09:38,200 --> 02:09:40,240
Speaker 1: absolutely that. We're gon We're going back to wrap this up.

2708
02:09:40,280 --> 02:09:42,680
Speaker 1: Sal Capacco in for Chris Brown. Steve Tasker here at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live from Seneca Studios in Orchard Park. We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. What do

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Speaker 1: we learned? Presented to you by the sky Works, the

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Speaker 1: official equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. We learned

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Speaker 1: today that undrafted rookie free agent Tyreek Thompson signed with

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in order to learn from the best

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Speaker 1: safety tandem he feels in the NFL and Jordan Porter

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Speaker 1: and Micah Hyde. He's also knows that there's a spot

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Speaker 1: there for somebody to step in and make it. And

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Speaker 1: he knows that he's got a long way to go.

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Speaker 1: But he said all the right things as a rookie

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Speaker 1: free agent. Why he signed here, what he hopes to

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Speaker 1: accomplish here. After the draft, Grant A. Mean said, part

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Speaker 1: of the reason he traded for an extra pick was

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Speaker 1: because they knew that undrafted guys might not want to

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Speaker 1: come here because the roster is so stacked. Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if we draft him, they have no choice. They got

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Speaker 1: to come here. If we give him a choice, they

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Speaker 1: might say, ah, I got a better chance. This is

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Speaker 1: a guy who's welcoming the competition and the leadership that

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Speaker 1: he's coming into and not saying, oh, I gotta I

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Speaker 1: have a better chance to make the roster. I think

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Speaker 1: he thinks his path to make the roster is by learning.

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Speaker 1: Are these guys? Yeah, and we also learned that Yankee

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Speaker 1: tickets can be had if you're willing to hover around

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Speaker 1: your computer at ten o'clock with your dead hard number

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Speaker 1: and refresh, refresh, Refresh to sole congratulately. I hope you

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Speaker 1: have a great time at the game. Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be going to the Yankees Blue Jays game on

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Speaker 1: the Thursday night that they're here. That's June seventeen. Not

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. But how about seriously, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm a Yankee fan, but the Blue Jays are here

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Speaker 1: next week. That's so cool. They start Blue Jays in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo starting next week for however long we know it's

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Speaker 1: going to be at least a three three series, could

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Speaker 1: be longer. We don't know what's going on with Canada.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is so cool for Buffalo to

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Speaker 1: have the Blue Jays here with fans. Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be off for Friday and Monday. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Tuesday of next week. Chris Brown will be

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Speaker 1: back in that seat. Sal you. It's been great having you.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed its been Thank you so much. You

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Speaker 1: can also catch some more content that The Bill. We

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Speaker 1: put out One Bill's Light podcast on all our podcast platforms.

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Speaker 1: This week's guest for Brownie and I is Matt Bowen

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Speaker 1: from NFL Matchup on ESPN and also the pod Squad

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Speaker 1: with Kim Bagoula and Maddie gillab got Davis web On,

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Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks the Bills and the guy who

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Speaker 1: has made no secret about the fact he wants to

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Speaker 1: be a coach when he's all when it's all said

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Speaker 1: and done, And from what I've seen, you might he's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good quarterback. But he might be a better

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Speaker 1: coach right now than he is a quarterback. And he's

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Speaker 1: really doing making great strides towards that career. He's really

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Speaker 1: um well respected in that regard. Remember he was the

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Speaker 1: one that kind of organized the Florida workouts last year

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Speaker 1: and put everything together like that's his his thing. Also,

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Speaker 1: he was a high level hockey player growing up. Would

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Speaker 1: you know that David skidding. Yeah, he's a hot where

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Speaker 1: wherever he grew up. I talked hibout in locker room

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Speaker 1: when he first signed here. But um, and I even said,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, really you're from? And where I can't

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Speaker 1: I get a look now where he's from. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was a high level hockey player. Yeah, there you go. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's different strokes for everybody. I guess what are you?

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna he's from prosper Texas and he was

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Speaker 1: a hockey players Texas. Yeah, I'm telling you that's impossible.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I'll take your word for it. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming in style. That was great, and thank you Steve.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for all of you. We got a ton of

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Speaker 1: responses second year players yesterday it was which new edition

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Speaker 1: is a load and stacked roster. Enjoy the weekend everybody.

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend coming up. It's gonna be a little chillier,

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Speaker 1: but it is gonna be sunny today. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: chillier and rainier tomorrow. Maybe the weekend will warm up

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Speaker 1: a little bit, get outside, maybe strike a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You and Max have a great weekend. Man, Oh, thank

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Speaker 1: you you two. You have a great weekend, holiday weekend,

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Speaker 1: and looking forward to having Chris back next weekend. You

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Speaker 1: guys back on, yeah, back again next week on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: we'll have all the rest of the wrap ups from

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Speaker 1: the OTA's coming at you go. Don't forget One Bills

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Speaker 1: lighting on all the pod cast platforms, also the pod

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Speaker 1: Squad as well. We'll see La later, everybody. This has

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Speaker 1: been One Bills Live on from One Bill's Drive on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio, Salcapaccio, Steve Task. We'll see after the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Have a great one, everybody. We be