1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: A lot of for many and people go to support 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Kalinjior Jessica and say, Kalinjior Jesco president, you are the 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: only one that is rightfully elected. It is not the 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: one that is a puppet. Now. I'm hoping that the 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: movement will grow, but I think that the guests on 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: the fire of this movement was the report from yesterday 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: that we saw it to see Barkam and say, look 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: after the report, we see this, this, this that's having 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: the connection with Chris coins, with Biden, with blinking that 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: maybe this little fire will go to be a big fire. 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying to break some uh new worldwide news today 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: with you and and what's taken a place in Romania which, 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: in my opinion, based off reading the preliminary findings from 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: the House Judiciary findings that the EU and the European 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Commission has been involved in swaying eight different elections since 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: twenty three. It's just unbelievable to me, and professor, if 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: you could just explain, you know, maybe some background of 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: what happened with you guys uh and Caln George esque 19 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: in twenty four and then now what this means for 20 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: the current situation politically in Romania. 21 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: So I was interviewing Colindio Jesco beginning with two four 22 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: and twenty three that's true and a lot of his 23 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: ideas that he speaks frankly to other people. People at 24 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: the beginning says, oh, come on, that cannot be true. 25 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: Though all these things that he was saying that cannot 26 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: be true. And then again and again and again, we're 27 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: doing this show, and exactly on a I think on 28 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: twenty second of November, just a few days two three 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: days before the elections. On the twenty fourth of December, 30 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: I having an interview with him a podcast and the 31 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: name of the podcast was who will be the President 32 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: of Romania? And nobody believed what we I speaking with him, 33 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: and that today and everybody says, come on, he will 34 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: not have not more than three or five or six 35 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: percent from the elections. And then I tell you the truth. 36 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: On the evening of the twenty four he was calling 37 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: me and I say, look, let's make a podcast together 38 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the elections, and we discovered happily 39 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: that he was qualified not the last one but the 40 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: first one on top for elections in Romana. So I 41 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: think that with his speech, with what he's speaking about 42 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: what's happening in Romania with the tradition in Romaina, with 43 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: the traditional family, with our roots was destroyed by the 44 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, but also by then administration via USA. 45 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: The money put it in a lot of angels in Romania. 46 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: They crash all this thinking about the family. And even 47 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: so to say, also for my young people in Romania, 48 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: they also are a little you know, getting Look, if 49 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: the American says that it's good, then it's good to 50 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: see the Rainbow college. And that is not right for 51 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: me as an old Romania and a traditional one and 52 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: one that I I study in this country and I 53 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: love my country, and I love my Curpavius Mounts, I 54 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: love my dinner Delta. But these things cannot be thrown 55 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: away by the guys that now in Romania are in 56 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: power and are destroying everything. 57 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: I think it's fascinating to me that there is this 58 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: massive push by American organizations like USAID and the Nash 59 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: Endowment for Democracy which have been operating pretty substantially in 60 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: Eastern Europe since twenty fifteen. How have you seen is there? 61 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: Have you have you noticed based on what you saw 62 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: with with George Esqu's election and being recalled and basically canceled. 63 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: How have you seen specifics on where their influence has 64 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: played a role. Where where have you seen it? Is 65 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: it mostly in the media? Have you actually seen it 66 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: in election administrative, election function workers? Where have you seen 67 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: their influence the most? In Romania, we see it in 68 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: everything that you mentioned over there. We see it also 69 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: in media. The media for example, the televisions in Romania 70 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: are paid by departures that are in power, and even 71 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: the new president, even if it's a puppet for others, 72 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: guys in the back that are supporting him a lot 73 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: and put a lot of money in his campaign. Even 74 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: he recognized, i think a few months ago in a 75 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: TV show, look okay, we canceled the election and that 76 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: was wrongdoing was not right, But there was some people 77 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: in the power that want to keep the power, and 78 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: even he realized these things. And of course with the 79 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: money with the parties, they are paying the television to 80 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 2: say all this bullshit. For example, myself, I was putting 81 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: in all these TVs for not less than three or 82 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: four weeks on the prime time is I was the 83 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: relationship of collinjo or Jess put with put in so 84 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: me as a Romanian, as a professor, said, look, here's 85 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: the connection. So we put in and the problem was 86 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: that I cannot get out of my house. I was surrounded. 87 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: All the TVs was around my house. 88 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you frankly, it was not only the 89 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: TVs or some other services let's say, I don't nominate them, 90 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: that was surrounding me here. And of course my phono 91 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: stabbed my For example, was some interview here in my 92 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: house Calendar just can I don't give the name of 93 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: the television, but at that time, when they want to 94 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: make the interview, they cut the power, so I don't 95 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: have electricity. So they push it a lot, and they 96 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: push it only with the bullshets in all the media, 97 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: they pull it in the TikTok and all these things 98 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: together they involved, and you know, they try to destroy 99 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: Calendar just go through me. So they make me the 100 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: worst nightmare of the Romania because I'm connected with putting. 101 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Even my son Andy, he's call it on the TV. 102 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: I see it myself, and he's young. He's only twenty 103 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: six today, but that time was twenty four, right, so 104 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: he was called it. The colonel from Gerou from Moscow 105 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: he is here and his son. So things like that 106 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: was not nice for me. And even after a few months, 107 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: I can I can say, look, I can go somewhere 108 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: in place that nobody look at me, that I'm I'm 109 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: the foreigner, I'm the bad guy from Russia that wants 110 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: the worst for Romania. So people are are beginning to 111 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: get the veal out of their eyes and they beginning 112 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: to see that look, the things that Georgesco said is different. 113 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: The things that Georgessico said on my show is happening now. 114 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: The things that Georgosko said after the cancel election January. 115 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: He was having with a very famous journalist in Romania, 116 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: Christyo on January twenty twenty five exactly. Of course, he 117 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: was in my in my studio in Guerlupuli Studio and 118 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: Wolf Mouthful, Wolf of the Mouth Studio, and there he 119 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: says the things that was happening in twenty twenty six. 120 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: That is, everybody said, come on, he's what he was 121 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: saying is happening now. And we see now that everything 122 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: that at that time was somebody says, look he's lunatic. 123 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: Now they understand that he was telling the true And 124 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: I think that the majority from Romina beginning to see 125 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: the truth for all this media and all these angels 126 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: that practically tried to put a lot of worte things 127 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: on his name, on his behalf, and also in my 128 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: name and my behalf. 129 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: I find it fascinating that, you know, in twenty sixteen, 130 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: we had our own Russia collusion hoax. It was called 131 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: Russia Gate, where the outgoing administration, the Obama administration, essentially 132 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: altered intelligence reporting and forced the intelligence community, through Brennan 133 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: and Clapper, our highest level intel officials, to go find 134 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: information that link President Trump to Russia. It's fascinating to 135 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: me that they would use the same playbook with Romania 136 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: as well too, that they would come in and influence 137 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: whoever they is, whether it's senior officials at the European 138 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: Union or it's people in the Romanian government or intelligence services, 139 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: literally using the same playbook against Klin and say, oh, 140 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: he's connected through you, professor, to Russian intelligence. Why do 141 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: you think the European Union is so it's easy for 142 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: them to try and pin you to Russia. Why do 143 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: they want to do that. 144 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: Because you know the narrative with the Russians, do that 145 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Russian do so and Russian is the worst, is putting 146 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: on education. And not only in Romania, this is across Europe. 147 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: The Russian is behind everything. For example, in Romania they 148 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: put the most expensive electricity costs over Europe and they 149 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: say it's Russian full. So also in Romania. You know 150 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: that in Ropena the eurostart receive it. We receive it 151 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: yesterday that the inflation is more than double than the 152 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: second country in Europe after Romania, with the inflation of 153 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: the prices. You know who is behind this is Russia. 154 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: And the price for a guest price for diesel, who 155 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: is behind this is Russia. For example, I give you 156 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: a detail with this narrative. The Russian is behind everything 157 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: Daily Mail, UK ukay along those papers. You know what 158 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: they says yesterday about ebstra files, the abstruent files that 159 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: Russia administation put it. They are Russia and here's with Russia. 160 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: So this narrative is put it so many times in 161 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: the people mind, in the in the young mind that 162 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: the young mind you NOI is like a spaunch. They 163 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: accumulate everything. And of course lately the people don't read anymore. 164 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: The education is is you know, it's not only here 165 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: is I think it's all over the world, ammo professor, 166 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm speaking, but because they are a sponge, 167 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: they accummulate all the information, and the problem is that 168 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: they don't look behind this information. If it is a 169 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: true information, is the almost information, so they eat everything. 170 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: So the Russia is big, the big bear, the worst guys, 171 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: putting one nuclear war and things like that. For example Romina, 172 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: we don't love Russians. But in me as a professor, 173 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: I understand that the bullshit that they are saying about 174 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: Russia are not true. In Romania were having communists because 175 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: of the Russia and not because only Russia. Because Churchill 176 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: there's other secret, not between Stallian and him, and he 177 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: says ninety percent of Romena belonging to Stalin. So we 178 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: was Understalin. The big intellectual people, the scientists people for 179 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Romena was arrested and killed by Russians, but with the 180 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: support of the Romanian treaters. Of course they they having 181 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: them for Remainian name, but their ethnicity was I don't 182 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: want to say in the mission because now in Remainder 183 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: we have a vex law. If you say something about 184 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: the those kinds of those people, then you are put 185 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: it in jail for twelve years. So did you see 186 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: it's terrible with the censorship in Romania is worse and worst. 187 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, for example, we're having in the mountains 188 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: in all days, we're having the fighters again the communists, 189 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: and those fighters was always they say, we wait for 190 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: the Americans, the Americans, we come and make justice. And 191 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: then the communists and the securitate, the securities, guy uh, 192 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: they pick them, kill them. And then in twenty fifteen, 193 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: in order to stop there's a bullshit, you know, to 194 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: stop what was happening on that time, they issue a 195 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: law that if you put if you put on the 196 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: name of Legion legends legion in Romanian, the legion legendaire, 197 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: then you are worst and you cannot speak about this. 198 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: So this law was madeed by a former president of 199 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: the party that now is the pre I Minister. The 200 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: name was screen Anton Esk and now Wexler law says 201 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: not even when you can mention something worse about them. 202 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: So that is the kind of censorship that we Romainians 203 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: are put it, and all the things that are are 204 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: saying about us is not true. But for you, I 205 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: give you a short example. What's happening with the elections 206 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: in December twenty twenty four. I'll put you in a 207 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: picture and I'll tell you who is this guy. So 208 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: you see, this is Chris Cons with the former president 209 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: Klaus Vernari Highness that practically they cancel. He canceled the elections. 210 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: He was the president at the time and Gill's constitution 211 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: he was empowered in another few months, but the constitution 212 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: didn't allow that. And Chris Cons and you know, all 213 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: the American guys know that Chris Cons is the close 214 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: body to Joe Biden. While Joe Biden was a senator, 215 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: he was his chief of staff to Chris Cons. And 216 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: he came. This is a picture from Romanian presidency on 217 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: thirty of December twenty twenty four. And I'm asking you, now, 218 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: what's happening with the Logan law in the States. The 219 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: Logan law says, specifically, the American officials cannot be involved 220 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: in the elections. And what Chris Cons was doing was 221 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: sending the message from Biden to remain and president, look, 222 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: you do that or do so with the elections. And 223 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned again that Antony Blincoln, former Secretary of State 224 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: in America, says the elections was canceled because interfering with 225 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: the Russians. Russians was behind this. And now also America, 226 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: the host of judis in the Congress says, no, it's 227 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: not Russian difference. What has happened in America with Antony 228 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Blincoln that says these bullshit things, And what's happening with 229 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Terry Breton He recognized on television Terry Beretron is a 230 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: former European commissionery and he says, what we did in 231 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: Remain with cancelation of elections, we will do it in 232 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: Germany was before generan election. And if you'll ad me, 233 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: I'll put now the map that you we have it 234 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: from the report with the countries. That report says that 235 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: the interface of European Commission. Look we have here Ireland, France, Netherlands, Slovakia, 236 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: Romania and of course Moldova. And the funny thing is 237 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: that today your opinion says that all this report is 238 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: child think, is nothing true on that? What is europinion about? 239 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: What the response was having the European Commission about that? 240 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, for me, I mean I've been paying attention to 241 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, the manipulation of elections quite a bit lately. 242 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: I've done a lot of interviews about our twenty twenty 243 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: elections and how there's mass fraud all across America and 244 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: mostly the Swing States. And when you look at that 245 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: combined with what are the USAID, the National Endowment for Democracy, 246 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: what they've participated in elections. In Brazil, we saw it 247 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: with Lula. There was a question about Lula being in 248 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: power and they quashed Bolsonnaro to the point where now 249 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: he's serving twenty nine years in jail. Right. We saw 250 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: it in France. We've seen France trying to quiet Marie 251 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: Lepen and trying to censor her. 252 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: We've seen it in Italy. 253 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: We've seen it, I think in many different places up 254 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: to including we just saw this past week in France 255 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: they raided the X offices, right. They they're trying to 256 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: get rid of They're trying to get rid of Elon 257 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: Musk and X in Europe because they believe it's a problem. 258 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: They arrested paval Duro, the CEO of Telegram last year 259 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: as well too. And then we also saw what the 260 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 2: Prime Minister President of Spain just this past week give 261 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: a speech that says, no, we're going to determine what 262 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: speech is allowed and what isn't Now you combine all 263 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: that what we saw two weeks ago at the Davos 264 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: meeting for the World Economic Forum, and I believe the 265 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 2: Digital Services Act, combine with American NGOs that are being 266 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: funded by USAID or by NED or by the State Department, 267 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: in combination with certain political leaders like you said Chris Coons, 268 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: are basically locking down European elections and elections around the 269 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: world because they figured out this whole system of how 270 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: to manipulate elections through their own influence on social media, 271 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: with whether it's bot farms or paying high profile influencers. 272 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: I believe this is the new system on what's taking place. 273 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: How do you all plan to combat this? With these 274 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: new findings. 275 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: We are The problem is we asked that the power 276 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: is in all their hands. The president is is called 277 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: it no in all days that is not the confirm 278 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: But I say that is because I was saying in 279 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: the show his name, I say it first two remain 280 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: and then I just said pusher. That is a envelope 281 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: Nick because he receiving money in the envelope. He was 282 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: just a protester. If you want to make a building, 283 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: then him up is coming. Look this is cannot do 284 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: the building and put it and officially complain and you 285 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: cannot do the building, and of course somebody by behind 286 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: come and give him the envelope in order to cancel 287 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: his complaining and you after that you can razio building. 288 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: So he is conducted by somebody else of course from 289 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: the services for sure in the back. And also our 290 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: our prime minister I think will not the last long 291 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: because the taxation in Romania was growing from one handed 292 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: to three hundred percent for the properties. And for example, 293 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: for a minimum wage, for a minimum salary in Romania, 294 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: you have to work for the state six months. 295 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: So what is that? 296 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: Is it slavery or what is it in Romania for 297 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: minimum wage is half of the year have to work 298 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: to pay to the state. That is what's happened in Romania. 299 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: I also there was also another major issue too because 300 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: Romania there were plans for building the largest NATO base 301 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: in Eastern Europe in Romania. Is is that still has 302 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: that advanced our are they moving forward with this NATO base? 303 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: What's going on with that? I think when Trump administration 304 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: came and they understand that this guy is not belonging 305 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: to the strategic partner that we call in the USA. 306 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: Even today everybody say USA is a strategic partner. But 307 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: he is in the pocket of Macron. And we see 308 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: how Trump says about Macron, laughing about his glasses and 309 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: so on. In fact, what's happening last year more than 310 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: eight hundred officers and personnel from that base was send 311 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: it home. And I don't think that the rest of 312 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: the base we remain. More so the construction, the plans 313 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: was like this. Of course, to make the biggest NATO 314 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: base in the Eastern Europe. It is close to do. 315 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: She is having all the needs go straight, very close 316 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: to Ukraine and so on. But I don't think that 317 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: the plan will be, of course, at least with this 318 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: with this government, with this president, I don't know the rest. 319 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: We like the Americans, as I say, one almost one 320 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: hundred years ago over many says, we wait for the 321 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Americans to get rid of the Russians. And of course 322 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: Americans never never came. But we're hoping that those days 323 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: after we see the report, some some evil visible hand 324 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: from from from America to come. And you have now 325 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: the the links that you can do it. You have 326 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: the logo law, and don't forget that something I see 327 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: and then I see the newr show that was raised 328 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: in some election office, was raised by Cash Pattel by 329 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: the FBI and collected all the bags from twenty twenty 330 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: to the elections. That is, that is something that have 331 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: to be done here. And of course was was commissioned 332 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: from UH. I don't know from the Congress that was 333 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: coming to elections here in twenty twenty five. After they 334 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: came election, they make new elections. I don't know what 335 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: was happening with that commission. But if that commission is 336 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: coming from the Democrats, we see that nothing will happen. 337 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: But if the Republicans that love love MAGA, we love 338 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: MAGA because what stands for MAGA is sent also for 339 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: a million traditional family religion. We are we are Christians 340 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: after more than ninety percent. We cannot say that we 341 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: are something else. We you know, rebel colors is not 342 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: a time meaning. I don't to disturb the parts of 343 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: the the people that I don't want to say anything wrong, 344 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: but a disease must be treated, not be allowed to spread. 345 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: That's my opinion firm about this, and I say we 346 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: wait the help from from the American side. Anyway, Romanian 347 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: thinking the beginning to this more than one year. Then 348 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: we see that for example Colindid Jesco is put it 349 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: in in in a restriction. He cannot leave the country 350 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: and zone and he have to get in the in 351 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: the front of the police each week. Uh for a 352 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: stupid thing. He says, some words, and those guys for 353 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: that law, old law, for these he says that he's 354 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: a legendaire. 355 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: But no. 356 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: Romanian movement, legendary Romanian movement, not even a Neurremberg, a Neuralberg. 357 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: After the Second World War, No, remember the Nourbank process 358 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: and says, no, this movement nothing not nothing. Hey with 359 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: the Fastiest, with Mussolini, with Hitler, they are for Romanian 360 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: renew that they were fighting for Romania. There's not having 361 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: these motives like the Fastiest and the Hitler guy. So 362 00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: if Nuremberg didn't put legend the movement under the process, 363 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: we find some Romanians, some some access from Romanian people 364 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: to do it. So you understand the thing. So the 365 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: people it's nice that every sometimes it's Monday, sometimes it's Tuesday. 366 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: A lot of for Manyon people go to support Collinji 367 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 1: or just and say, look, we are saying Collinjio ESCO president. 368 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: You are the only one that is rightfully elected. It's 369 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: not the one that is a puppet. Now we're hoping 370 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: that the movement will grow. But I think that the 371 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: guests on the fire of this movement was the report 372 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: from yesterday that we saw it. That is the big 373 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: guests on our report. And if if some I don't 374 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: know to see Gobar come and say look after the report, 375 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: we see this, this, this that's having the connection with 376 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: Chris Colls, with Biden, with blinking, then maybe this storm, 377 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: this little fire will go to be a big fire, 378 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: be a storm on what's opening with called some they 379 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: call it a political elit because they are pro Europe 380 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: and others are called it p Russian, so Romania. If 381 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: you love Romania, then you are Prussia. That's the label 382 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: that did they put on you. Yeah, we know that. 383 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: Well anybody that was for Trump with a Russian stooge 384 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: or a Putin apologist or whatever it might be. Last 385 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: question for your professor, Liz, how can the current movement 386 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 2: that supports George s qu what what are they gonna 387 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: what are they planning to do? Is they're going to 388 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: be uh called action? Do you think that will come 389 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: from these findings that the European Union was directly affecting 390 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: your elections or what do you think will happen? Well, 391 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: there'll be protests in the streets again, what are you 392 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: what are you hoping takes place? 393 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: I think that the protest will come again to be 394 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: put it on the on the streets. There's also a 395 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: commission in the Romanian parliament that is called that they 396 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: try to find out what's happened with the elections in 397 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And the funny thing is that this commission, 398 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: and of course is a deputy there that asked the 399 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: official to come in in front of them. It's not 400 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: like America for the hearings. Now, if you got a congressman, 401 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: a congressman ask you to come for hearing, you come here. 402 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: Even the Romanian Institute, official institute don't want to come. 403 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: Official services don't want to come, and they say parliament 404 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: is nothing for us. But the law says that they 405 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: have to come. And I think that today this is 406 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: breaking news for you absolutely because because it happened, I 407 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: know when it's happened. I'm having a podcast with the 408 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Chairman Lady last week and then executly today at five 409 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: o'clock Romanian an hour, we'll have this commission and their 410 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: issue uh legal complaints, penalty complaints, all against all this 411 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: institutions that don't want to come in front of the parliament. 412 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: That is. 413 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: That is also I think it's important to happened also 414 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: as a movement in Deparliament with the with the opposition party. Fantastic. 415 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: Well, professor, I can't thank you enough for allowing me 416 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: to come on your show and vice versa. I'm grateful 417 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: that you were excited to come on our show. And uh, 418 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 2: I just I'm praying for the Romanian people to uh 419 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: kind of free themselves from this the overreach of the 420 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: kind of dystopian, tyrannical European Union, uh and the manipulation 421 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: of elections. 422 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: So thank you so much, No, thank you. I want 423 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: to thank you so much because I'm sure that my 424 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: viewers and your viewers will come a big loud voice 425 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: also for Romania, but also for the officialities in the 426 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: Trump administration, because these facts have to be heard and listen. 427 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: Otherwise we cannot do do good things for Romania. And 428 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: I think that Romania is was and will remain a 429 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: very good partner for America. But of course, the right 430 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: guys in power this one are not the you know 431 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: so loving for Trump. They are loving so much macro administration. 432 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: So thank you again. Send all my regards to everybody 433 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: that you know that you have common friends. That's why 434 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: I first shut together there. 435 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're grateful for Sean and Shawn's team Jeremy for 436 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: putting us together. Thank you so much, you guys or 437 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: we love being partners with you, and it's just it's awesome. 438 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. So I might call away any 439 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: time that you need some information from Eastern Europe. I'll 440 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: be happy to respond. And I'm quite well informed, believe me. Outstanding. 441 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, professor, God bless you, thank you, thank you 442 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: very much. Bye bye