1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: What's up. It's way up at Angela Yee. I feel 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: like we did the interviewer. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Rady, I just know, I know we gave it away. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: Y'all have to get the BTS. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 3: We had a whole conversation because Keith Sweat was just here. Yes, 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: and you sample him on your album? I did, Cassandra, Yes. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: I was so excited. I was excited to hear he 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: was here. And he was like, do you want to 9 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 2: meet him? I said yes, literally, he said yes to 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: the sample. I sampled it on a song called about 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: it on my album Yes, and so I'm actually singing it. 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: But it was one of my favorite songs growing up, Twisted. 13 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: It was like full circle moment. 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: And you probably didn't even know what it was about. 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: But because I was an. 16 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Eleged day by the way they started talking, I'm sorry 17 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: and day is here. 18 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me. 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, Twisted singing that as a kid, you didn't 20 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: know what that. 21 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: No. 22 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: I was elementary school walking home. I was saying, I 23 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: walk home and I was stopped by this man who 24 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: lived by himself and he would give candy out to kids. 25 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: And it's really dark house with bushes and all this 26 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: stuff around it. Yeah, thank god I'm still here delivery. Yeah, exactly. 27 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: So it was full circle, you know what I mean. 28 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: But I'll be singing twisted eating fireballs all the way home, 29 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: not knowing what I was singing. 30 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 4: And then I grew up and I was like, damn, okay. 31 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 3: Waitted my life for some candy. But they know, kids 32 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: love candy. But honestly, like, I'm so glad to hear 33 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: I definitely Western United States versus Billy Holliday. You did 34 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: such a fun I didn't realize that was your first 35 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: like starring role. Yeah, first acting role acting her period 36 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: and a movie. The way that you killed that role, 37 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 38 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: It was so amazing, Like, and I didn't really know 39 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Billy Holliday's full story. 40 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 4: Oh I love that. 41 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: I love hearing stuff like that, right, I think that 42 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: she she that was the Well, first of all, I 43 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: didn't want to do it because I'm not an actor, 44 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: and I was like, y'all should just go find somebody 45 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: who you know could act. But I took the meeting 46 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: with Lee because I was like, well, you know, maybe 47 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: he'll wants some music in the movie. 48 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: It'll be a good meeting bowl book, but then we 49 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: fell in love. 50 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: And what I really fell in love with is that 51 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: he was such a huge fan of Lady Sings the 52 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: Blues and then so he never realized that he didn't 53 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: know Billy's full story either, And I was such a 54 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: big fan of her, so like, I recognize her as 55 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: like this sort of godmother of like the neo civil 56 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: rights movement. 57 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: You know, like mm hm. 58 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: So that was one of the big things for me 59 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: that I was like, I was scared to do it, 60 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: but it did matter to me that her legacy was 61 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: vindicated because like the fact that we only really know 62 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: her as a jazz singer and a drug addict is 63 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: part of the design, you know what I mean. So 64 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: it was really important that she should be looked at 65 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: when we have conversations about id B Wells and Angela 66 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: Davis and you know what I'm saying, Asada Billy should 67 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: be mentioned in those conversations, you know what I mean. 68 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: So that was definitely why I wanted to do it. 69 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 3: And you're the perfect person when you think about how 70 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: music actually affects movements so much, and it is part 71 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: of civil rights move even if you think back to 72 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: the days of slavery when music was so important. Yes, 73 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: you know, on the plantations for many different reasons, and 74 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: you've had you know, like this song rise up parents 75 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: of that. But you could compare that cause that really 76 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: was like a song that symbolized the movement. 77 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it became and I had listen. I 78 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: the song actually wasn't even supposed to be on the 79 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: first album. 80 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: It wasn't. It was like a way late addition to 81 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: the album. 82 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: And they were like, the label brought me and they 83 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: were like, we wanna play you something you know that 84 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: we think you should add to the album. And I 85 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 2: was like no, and they were like you wrote it, 86 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: and I said, okay, well let me listen real quick. 87 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 88 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 2: But so we listened to it and it it kind 89 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: of sucked the air out of the room, like as 90 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: it does, you know sometimes, and we just knew. 91 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: I had no idea would be. 92 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: It was adopted by Black Lives Matter movement, you know, 93 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: and a lot of different movements of people who are 94 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: just sort of fighting for freedom and need you need, 95 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: you know, you need the strength, you need those things 96 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: that help you keep your arms up, you know. I 97 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: told people though. The difference is, though I can acknowledge 98 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: what it feels like and what it means to have 99 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: a song that becomes like an anthem of like a movement, 100 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: you know, and a and a generation of people. What 101 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: I don't, what I'm not too familiar with, is like 102 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: that every time I sing that song, somebody might try 103 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: to kill me for it. 104 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: And that's the difference that is definitely at the time, 105 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 106 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: And so you know, so while I acknowledge that I'm 107 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: able to sing this song because. 108 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: She sang that at that time, you know, strange fruit. 109 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So grateful for. 110 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: That, Yeah, because who would think they would tell somebody 111 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: not to perform? 112 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: You know that, I really did not know all of. 113 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: That, And it's great to be able to see some 114 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: of these documentaries like a Sam Cook or just to 115 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: see what people went through when a lot of times 116 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 3: you weren't able to have a voice, and where honestly 117 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: should be so grateful to be in a time where 118 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: things are not at all perfect. 119 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: I just watched Donald Trump girl right now. 120 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, look at where we're going, but Portugal, where 121 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: we're going out the cause. 122 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: But I kind of was when I was watching that, 123 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: I kind of was like I'm glad he did that 124 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: because it did make you be like, Okay, now this 125 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: is ridiculous, But I don't see how ridiculous. 126 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: This is, right exactly. 127 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: Like that's the thing I'm like, what is it that 128 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: he he has to do or say to people to 129 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: be like, yo, this is narcissism, you guys, you know 130 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: what I mean? 131 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: And man correct information, like to just say anything. 132 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: And to have no like he's I think he's aware 133 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: of the fact that he doesn't even have to tell 134 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 2: the truth. 135 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: He doesn't because he knows. 136 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: He just does inflammatory things and his base will eat 137 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: it up, you know. And that's the thing I'm like, 138 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: And that's the sad part. You won't go fact check, 139 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: you won't go do all those things because it's like, 140 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: all I need to do is that's propaganda. 141 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: I just need to muddy the water with all. 142 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: He'll say it. 143 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: I say it enough times people will think it's true. 144 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: It don't matter literally what it is. But yeah, so 145 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: just thinking about all of those things, now, let's get 146 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: to some fun, fun conversations. 147 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: I had to give you your flowers though, for. 148 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: Playing that Billie Holliday role and for killing it and 149 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: working with Lee Daniels, and clearly he sees what a 150 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: great job you did because here you are starring in 151 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: the Deliverance. 152 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 4: With this cast is crazy. 153 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: Oh my that is in it. Monique is in it. 154 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: Anjiana Ellis is in it like you had. Oh Glenn close, 155 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: let's talk about that. 156 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know, my god, her transformation. 157 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: Like, first of all, I tell people, like, it's not 158 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: lost on me that Lee trusted me with this cast 159 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: of people, you know what I mean, because these are 160 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: people that I'm like, those are my inspirations. When I'm 161 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: doing Billie, I'm like, Okay, I gotta try and tap 162 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: what at least a little bit of what Mo did 163 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: in you know, Precious for all of her stuff. You 164 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: know what Glenn did? What Anjanu did? You know, Mike Gap, 165 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: same thing? Even my children, you know who play my 166 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: kids like they're incredible. So it just was really and 167 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: the fact that he believed in me again, you know 168 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: what I mean, and just but it's also I tell people, 169 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: I said, Lee don't give himself enough credit in this position, 170 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: because you know, he's a great casting director. His sister's 171 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: one of the best casting directors in the business as well. 172 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: But he Also, I'm like, Lee, you are a He 173 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: is one of the best directors we've ever had. And 174 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: so I was like, while, he picks amazing actors and 175 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: he relies on them and he loves what they do. 176 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: He's such a good director, Like he could make you 177 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: believe this unicorn right here is a real live stallion, 178 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you just he can 179 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: pull a performance out of a rock and I just 180 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: feel like, so, I feel very grateful to be in 181 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: his family of performers, you know what I'm saying. 182 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: And you delivered on the delivery, I have to say, 183 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: because I was waiting to hear you. I had a 184 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: chance to watch it in advance, you know, and it 185 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: definitely had the whole thing across the like, do not 186 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: you know, say anything about it, do not review whatever 187 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: Netflix sends you. 188 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, so I'm at the end, right. 189 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 190 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: I was like, don't tell to end. But it is 191 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: a horror movie, which is my favorite genre. Everybody who 192 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: knows me knows that. But it's also based on a 193 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: true story. 194 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: Yes it is. 195 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: We had a whole conversation, We've had a couple of 196 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: conversations based on that without me giving things away, But 197 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: we talked about on the show. A lot of people 198 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: called in when I was like, have you ever had 199 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: any interactions with the spirit or felt like something like 200 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: that happened? Now, I got to ask you because you 201 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: film this, and sometimes I always wonder what it's like 202 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: to film something like this because it could make you 203 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: feel like you're opening the door. 204 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure depth something. 205 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: So that's actually such a good question because I think 206 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: what people will find. But again too, so I'm a believer, 207 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So that's I really have 208 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: to go into everything I do with intentions. So I 209 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: think when I first I, okay, I'll say like this, 210 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: going into the movie, I thought that's what it was 211 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: gonna be. I thought, I'm opening the door to a 212 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: bunch of stuff that's gonna kind of, you know, just 213 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 2: like upset myself and my family and all these things. 214 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: And I'm like, am I letting these spirits in? Am 215 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: I letting this you know, stuff in? And so at 216 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: first I was kind of like, I don't think I 217 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: should really do this. I don't think I should really. 218 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: But then I was praying and I was praying about it, 219 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: and I for me personally, I could really hear God 220 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: clearly tell me that, like, these are not things. When 221 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: I say, like, you know, perfect love casts out all fear, 222 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: I mean that, like you know what I mean. And 223 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: it was like understanding that. You got to understand you 224 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: have authority over these things. These things are under your foot. 225 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: So it's like you have to be this if you 226 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: gonna be light. Light needs to illuminate dark places, you 227 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean. In these stories show victory. And 228 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: he was reminding me, even though I didn't know which 229 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: way they were gonna go with the story, was reminded 230 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: me it would be victory in this place. So it 231 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: was really crazy because from my experience on set, it 232 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: was actually a lot of light. It was a lot 233 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: of light, a lot of love, a lot of community, 234 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: sisterhood with these incredible women on set. Like you know, 235 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: I did have like sometimes a little bit weird dreams, 236 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: you know, like. 237 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: How could you not? 238 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure, because you know what I mean, 239 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: like the material, I wasn't in it, even reading the material, 240 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: reading on this stuff. But you know, we were praying, 241 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: and I'm one of them, like I'm really like, y'all, 242 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: let's pray before we each scene and be like I'm 243 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: not playing like everything. 244 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: And it's funny because Lee I love him so much. 245 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: He would allow me to like the space to be 246 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: like cool and he would do it as well too. 247 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: And then sometime if I'm in my head, He'll remind 248 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: me Andre we're gonna pray, so we would grab hands. 249 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: We made sure we prayed because he had intention too, 250 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: because his intention was like, yes, I want to scare people, 251 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: Yes I want to make a horror movie, but I 252 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: want people to encounter God. 253 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 254 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: I want people to know that, like, no matter how 255 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: deep your generational trauma is, you can be healed. 256 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 257 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: And we should be healed. So it's definitely based on 258 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: a true story. The woman's name that the story is 259 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: based on originally I play Ebony Jackson, but her name 260 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: was LaToya Ammon's okay, and it was based actually in Gary, Indiana. 261 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 2: So there are a lot of differences, you know what 262 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: I mean, Like. 263 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Wants based on a two story, it's not. 264 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: So I think like even if you go look at 265 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: her story, it won't fully give away the movie because 266 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: Lee really wanted it to be based off of it 267 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: inspired by it, but to be their own kind of 268 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: characters and their own stories. 269 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: So it's it. 270 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: Will have you on the edge of your because you 271 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 3: know it starts up the setting. 272 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm like waiting for something, you know. 273 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: The anticipation is also what gets me all the time, 274 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: and like knowing that something's gonna happen, and then you're like, 275 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 3: come on, you don't see these flies. 276 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: Right because and the plus the drama, the family drama, 277 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: be so deep into it and then they'll hit you 278 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: with something crazy. 279 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: You'll be like, wait a minute, hold long. 280 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: But you know what, like your character in there, just 281 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: the mother's love that she has for her kids, but 282 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 3: how difficult it is, like being a single mom raising 283 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: three children and not always doing the best that you can. 284 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: Your own escapes at times. Yes, that's a real thing. 285 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: Yes for people to have to watch that, and it's like, 286 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, I just want her to do better. 287 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 4: And you know, and you know it. 288 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: First of all, I love that you clocked that because 289 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: that's what she wants, you know what I mean. But 290 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: she's trying to do the best she can do, or 291 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: thinking she's doing the best she can do with all 292 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: these unhealed, open gaping wounds, you know what I'm saying, 293 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: Like she bleeding now and trying to poor and poor 294 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: important to her kids as much as she can. And 295 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: so I know that was an important thing for Lee 296 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: and for all of us on set, was the idea 297 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: that it's like, you know, a she's fighting for her kids, 298 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: like with the government obviously, you know, trying to take 299 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: her kids because they believe she's being abusive where she's 300 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: not a fit mother. 301 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: And imagine, how do you explain that my kids got 302 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: you know. 303 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because of course, like if you a social work 304 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: and somebody like, well my kids got bruises, well it's demons, 305 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: not me. 306 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: You're gonna look at them. 307 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: So she's crazy, take the care right now. 308 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: And that was and that was her goal and in 309 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: that true story, that was really the social worker's goal. 310 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: And so I think that, like, but there is also 311 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: this this underlying aspect of like believe black women. You 312 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, believe women believe women of color 313 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: like believe because society has kind of made this culture 314 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: where we just don't you know what I'm saying, We 315 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: either don't believe or we don't care enough to you. 316 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: Know, we don't support we don't support, like how did 317 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: we figure out how to help? 318 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: But you're not allowed to be humanhero. 319 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: But there's even a point where someone does try to 320 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: help and she's like exactly. 321 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: So that's what I What I love about her story 322 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: is that, And what I loved about like playing her 323 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: is I'm like, she really does want to be the 324 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: best mother she she can be, you know what I mean. 325 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: And that's why I love the metaphor. There's the physical 326 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: fight with the demons, but there's also Ebenie's real struggle 327 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: of trying to She don't even know that she needs 328 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: to heal from this was amused, you know what I mean, physically, sexually, 329 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: Her mother was on drugs and so now her mother 330 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: lives in that house with her, and they're trying to 331 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: like single mom, raise these kids with your mom, and 332 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: you're faced with the seat of your trauma every single day. 333 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 3: She's halfway, Yes, she half way. 334 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: Her mother is Glenn close. 335 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: And so there's also this identity you know, black Man's 336 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: period and. 337 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: That and always and is and is like dressed and. 338 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: It's just is in the culture, you know what I'm saying, 339 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: quote unquote, So it's like Ebane's trying to like be 340 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: like you don't really actually know you my mom. You 341 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: don't have to deal with the same things that I 342 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: necessarily have to deal. 343 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Because you're a white woman like me. 344 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: And that was one of the things in the beginning 345 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 4: we laughed at. 346 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: So I'll tell you there's one deleted line, like we 347 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: didn't end up using it, like I probably couldn't deliver it, right, 348 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: But there's one deleted line from the movie where, well, 349 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: I'm not going to give away it's a very very 350 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: heavy scene in the movie and Ebanie literally says to 351 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: Mama Alberta, that's Glenn's character. 352 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: She was like, who what kind of white woman named 353 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: their daughter Ebony? You know what I mean? 354 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like you had to go for the 355 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: most blackest name you could think of. Like, so it's 356 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: just you. There's all those different clashes in there. The 357 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: kids are in the middle of it, you know. But 358 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: but I love What I love about this movie is 359 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: you get to see you get to see a fully 360 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: realized black women work through these struggles and like, you know, 361 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: there is there is a moment where you get to 362 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: cheer for her and you're very happy for her. 363 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying she has some wins and 364 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: you can see her doing like as much as she 365 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: can with the little that she. 366 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 4: Has exactly you know what I mean? For sure? Yes, 367 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: you know so glad. 368 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: But it's still the damn Hire movie though we're talking 369 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: about all this other stuff, but you're still going. 370 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: To be like and there's still the Lee Daniels element. 371 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna be some family drama in there. So yeah, Now. 372 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: Let me ask you, if somebody came to you and 373 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: told you he had these demons this, would you believe that? 374 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 375 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: I don't put let me tell you when you talk 376 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: about experiences you've had, so it wasn't on the set 377 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: of the movie. My friend used to have these experiences 378 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: all the time and I would hear about it and 379 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: I couldn't understand it necessarily, but I believed her because 380 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: I do believe in the spirit world, you know what 381 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: I mean. But I finally had my own experience where 382 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: I was like on my bed and I was awake, 383 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: but it was like this weird state and I could 384 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: just feel this like it's funny because I was awake 385 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: and it's like I saw it in the corner. It 386 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: was just this entity. It was this dark, dark entity. 387 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: It was hard to really make out exactly what it was, 388 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: but it was just this dark entity. And then I 389 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: tried to get it up and then it kind of 390 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: moves over and is like holding me down. And I 391 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: think a lot of people, if you. 392 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: Ask, you can't get up. 393 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people have that experience, and they'll 394 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: call let's say, like sleep, pararalysis, all these things blah 395 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: blah blah. But like it talks about it in scripture, 396 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So my thing is I 397 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: don't try to move and be like, oh, it doesn't exist. 398 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: I said it does, but I don't have to be 399 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: afraid of it, you know what I'm saying. And that's 400 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: what I wanted to be a part of showing in 401 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: this movie, like you can overcome it, you know what 402 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 403 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I love it. I can't wait for people to 404 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: see this. I do because you know what, because there's 405 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: so many two stories. And even when I was young, 406 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: I had this conversation like the Assists that was like 407 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: the first horror movie I saw, and I should not 408 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: have been watching that as a kid, and I watched 409 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: it by myself. 410 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: With my first horror movie, that I saw. 411 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: Oh, no wonder, but she was scarred early. You built different. 412 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: But I used to watch like all the Nightmare on 413 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: Elm Streets, like all the Stephen King movies that. 414 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: And like I used to read rol Stein as a 415 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: kid too, a Christopher Pike and all them A little skilled. 416 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: Yes, and you know how all of that so and 417 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Kujo like all of those. 418 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: I love that. Wait, this is the next time we 419 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: got to do a little never carry. Yeah, Oh my gosh. 420 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: So I used to love stuff like that as a kid. 421 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: But I will say a lot of it. Even Texas 422 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: changed to a massacre that's based on a true story, 423 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: and I know it's not like a complete true story, 424 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: but there's a lot of things that are unexplained in 425 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: this world that you I think that how could you 426 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: not believe that there's spirits good and bad? 427 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: And I try to welcome the good wins. 428 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you're like, keep the bad that bad? 429 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not playing with no ouji boy, no. 430 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: No, oh my god. 431 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: My sister was just having that conversation with me the 432 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: other day because her and a couple of friends when 433 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: we were younger played with it. Because my son in 434 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: her teen years, she was just trying to she was 435 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: trying to be reckless. 436 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: Cemetery got this grave. 437 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 4: But she said, ever since they played with that Wuiji board. 438 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 4: All she remembers. She was telling me that they were 439 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 4: playing with the Wuiji. 440 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: Board and a friend of hers like shot back to 441 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: the window, and like a friend of hers mom like 442 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: shot back to the window, and like something had happened 443 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: to her. But ever since that moment, she said, she 444 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: had never been right, ever since that moment. And then 445 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: she ended up kind of she was in their lives, 446 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: but it was really tumultuous for a while, and then 447 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: eventually she went away, she died, you know what I mean. 448 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: Later and it was just like I'm like, that stuff 449 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: is too crazy. 450 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: So I definitely believe that's a real thing, for sure. 451 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: I agree. 452 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: So somebody comes to you and tells you that, what 453 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: was it like working with Monique? 454 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was, like I tell people all 455 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: the time, I was like, it was just so amazing 456 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: and inspiring, you know what I mean. It's just like 457 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: she is one of the best actresses we have ever had, 458 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 2: and I really stand on that, and like, you know, 459 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: she absolutely deserves her flowers all the time, and so 460 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: I said, it's twofold, like it was an honor to 461 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: work with her, or multiple fold, it was. 462 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 4: An honor to work with her. 463 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: And then it was a lesson, you know what I'm saying, 464 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: Like it was absolutely I was able to learn just 465 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: from her approach and her hunger as an actor still, 466 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, there's no like that she's like, yes, 467 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: I'm the greatest, Yes I'm done to all this stuff, 468 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But she don't, or at least I 469 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: acknowledge that, you know what I'm saying, But she still 470 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: comes to set every single day. Okay, mister Daniels, Okay, 471 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: ready to work. All of these women, Like it's so 472 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: all of them are legends that are still hungry, and 473 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: I think that's what makes people great and gives them 474 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: that longevity. And then in addition to that, like she 475 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: came to me one time and she could see me 476 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 2: like in scenes, you know, kind of struggling thro things 477 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah, and I could tell in 478 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: her heart she cared, you know what I'm saying about 479 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: like my emotional and mental state. And she came and 480 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: she says something so impactful, couple things. A she was 481 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: just complimenting. She was like, you're not talented, you're gifted, 482 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: and I want you to know the difference of those things. 483 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, first of all, like to 484 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: is melting. And then she also came in between takes 485 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: one time and she said to me, she said, make 486 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: sure you let it go because you know that you're acting, 487 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: but your body does not know the difference. You know 488 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And she was like, it matters to 489 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: fight another day, like to have the stamina. And so 490 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: it was just such a good lesson. Glenn was the 491 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: same way, you know what I mean. Andre knew the 492 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: same way, and I just I got to watch these 493 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: women who approached they all approach it differently, but the 494 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: results are the same, which is greatness learning from my kids. 495 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: It was just Mike Ebbs, it was amazing. It was 496 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: probably one of my favorites. It's but sorry working with him. 497 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: It was just it was great to watch them all 498 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: approach it differently. Miss miss Lawrence, you know what I mean, It's. 499 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: Just Lawrence killed it. I didn't even realize at first 500 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: that was Miss Laurence. 501 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 4: A lot. 502 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: That's so dope, and for this to be like your 503 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: second starring, yeah role you have you're here for a reason, 504 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: thank you, just over Billy Holiday and then to go 505 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: from that to this. But those are huge, huge, And 506 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: I remember when you did Billy Holliday and you're talking 507 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: about getting into that role and I read about it 508 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: and how you were smoking cigarettes and I was. 509 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: And this one. 510 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: Now I'm sitting out here a lot because now I 511 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: got a tattoo of these children. People were like, all 512 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: those are babies. I was like, they don't even. 513 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: Exist, real children. 514 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: And when you for real, guy, yes, look, Phil, I'm 515 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: telling you, she really got tattooed. It was supposed to 516 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: have faded by now I went and I got it 517 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 2: because I was like, she's a mom from North Philly, 518 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: Like we decided she's from nice town. I spent time 519 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: with miss Jade out there, like I love Philly by 520 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: the way, I love Philly. 521 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 4: I love Philly people too. 522 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: So I know, I was like so and so I 523 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: just was like, I just feel like, there's no way 524 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: she does not have her baby's tatto on her somewhere. 525 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: So I was like, let me just do a little 526 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 4: you know something. 527 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: You were not playing. You were like, I'm coming into this. 528 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 4: And you can't will Lee, you gotta be the you 529 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: know what I mean, you. 530 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: Got this job heroin for real, right? 531 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 4: So what we. 532 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: Definitely like we mitigated, we mitigated. I was like I 533 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: had never I had never smoked cigarettes, I never drank. 534 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: I wasn't I didn't cut and saying I smoking cigarettes 535 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: like I know that, yeah, and drinking hardly in your 536 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 3: heart that was a lot. 537 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: I was like, my liver was like, cannot wait till 538 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: this shooting schedule. 539 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: And cigarettes are so addictive too. Weren't you concerned that? 540 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: Like I was, because I went from I was just 541 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 2: gonna do it on set, I had committed to it, 542 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm just gonna do it because 543 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: the thing is with Billy, like you are hard pressed 544 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: to find a photo of her like on off a 545 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: candidate where she does not have a cigaret in her hand. 546 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: And I didn't want to just be like here I'm 547 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: smoking cigarettes to write that. I need to know. I 548 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: got to fill it in my bad. I need to 549 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: know the unction of what like if we're sitting here 550 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: talking and I just grab a cigarette without even thinking 551 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: about it and I light up, and you know what 552 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Like what is that function that makes me 553 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: do that? And I needed to have that feeling, And honestly, 554 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: it actually helped me on set because don't do this, y'all. 555 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: But it helped me on set because I like doing 556 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: the Heroin nods because my body was so not used 557 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: to cigarettes, so it would actually shut down and I 558 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 2: would start to like, as if I was on Heroin, 559 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so I could focus on the emotional part 560 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: of the scene. So yeah, it was. But I ended 561 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: up smoking for like two years after that, which. 562 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: I was like, I see, that's how hard habit to 563 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: kick its Its commitment is unparalleled, I have to say. 564 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: And in my mind, I think I justified it because 565 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: we finished filming. But then the next year we had 566 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: to do like pickup shoots, we had to do you know, 567 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: adr and all this stuff, and that's not a character 568 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: for me. Again, I didn't have no experience with it, 569 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: so it wasn't a character where I'm like, Okay, I'll 570 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: drop out and then when we do the pickup shoots, 571 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: I'll drop in. I was like, I gotta just stay 572 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: hurt all the way up until twenty twenty one when 573 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: it dropped and going through Award season, so that habit 574 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: ended up being like way longer than I thought. But 575 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: I think I was able to kick it because I 576 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: started so late, you know what I mean, Like I 577 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: started smoking, I was like twelve or thirteen. 578 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: That's a lot harder. 579 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: That's harder. 580 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: So, yeah, how did you feel the first time you 581 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: saw the movies? 582 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 4: Oh? 583 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: I cried, I felt Oh God, I felt a range 584 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: of emotions. I I definitely cried because the best way 585 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: that I could explain it is like I don't look 586 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: at that movie like, oh, here's this great work, like 587 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: because it was my first time, and because like the 588 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: way Tasha trained me and the way Lee got the performance. 589 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: Like. 590 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: Those are those don't feel like memories from work. They 591 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: feel like memories from my life, like actual memories, you know. 592 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: What I'm saying. 593 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: So it just doesn't it feels like so it's like 594 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: it's like me watching this part of my life that 595 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: I love so much that I'm not in anymore, you 596 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 597 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 4: And so it's just like. 598 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: I loved being her, I loved my cast, I was 599 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: in love with everyone I was, you know, And so 600 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: it was hard watching it. And plus the edit is 601 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: a hard thing for me because I know everything, and 602 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: I don't like, I was like, yeah, so I was. 603 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: So that was hard, you know to see. But it 604 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: was also like, I don't know, I was overjoyed. I 605 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: was just in tears. I was just super duper emotional grateful, 606 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: you know. But at the time, I was still dealing 607 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: with stuff, so I wasn't I still wasn't ready for 608 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: that part of my life to be over, you know 609 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: what I mean. And because it's just like her memories 610 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: just felt like my memories. 611 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: And how did your life change after that? 612 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely got you know, there's ways in 613 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: which Billy made me a lot braver. I'm either braver 614 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: or more confrontational. I don't know, because I don't. 615 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: Like brave though, to be able to not be passive 616 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 3: aggressive exactly and just. 617 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: Just and so so she she definitely like, well, she 618 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: was a little more explosive, you know what I mean. Like, 619 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 2: but but and there were just ways relationships changed. I 620 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: was in a relationship for four years that ended, you 621 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: know what I mean, because I'm a whole different person, 622 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And that was it was 623 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: really hard for me and for him, you know what 624 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm saying. At the time, because that's just not who 625 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: he signed up for. 626 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: Cigarettes. 627 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, all the things, you know what I'm saying like that. 628 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: And at the time too, I was just like, you know, 629 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: like I was mostly I've had like I'm being very graphic, 630 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: I have had oral sex and all this stuff, but 631 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 2: I haven't had like intercourse in ten years, right, like, 632 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: so you know, so it just I didn't cuss. 633 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 4: I didn't. It was a lot of things that I 634 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: had just you know, wait for ten years, yeah, for 635 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: ten years. 636 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was like and at the time, I 637 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: guess when we were filming what was it like, six 638 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: years whatever, I came to math girl. 639 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: Okay, clearly I didn't do that either, but that was 640 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 4: a require of hot today. 641 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: But so anyway, it was just like, you know, it 642 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: was a different, different person, and so, you know, and 643 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: it just there were ways in which I became more confident, 644 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: but there were also ways in which I became much 645 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: more insecure, you know what I mean. It definitely affected 646 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: my singing voice, which just affected my even my love 647 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 2: for music, you know what I mean, Because when you 648 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: have this feeling that you sound terrible every time you sing, 649 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: it's just like, you know, it's so it's so laborious, 650 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 651 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: Your new album sounds great. 652 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: I think some of it was recorded before, you know, 653 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: but it was just yeah, so it was that, there 654 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: was there was all of that, you know. 655 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 4: It was. 656 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: It was a long period of trying to figure out 657 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: who I am, you know what I mean, And and 658 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: then I finally got to a point where I was like, 659 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: all right, well I shouldn't be trying to go back 660 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: to who I was, because that's silly. Like you're changing 661 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: every day, you know what I'm saying, So every interaction 662 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: will change you. You get married, it'll change you, a new job, change, 663 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: So why would I think that one of these super 664 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: impactful experiences wouldn't change me up. 665 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: So I just accepted like this was a part of 666 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 4: preparing me for who. 667 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: It is I'm supposed to be in this season, and 668 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: that that kind of helped, you know, just to prayer 669 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: and all this stuff to ground me. But yeah, it 670 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: did definitely impact myne And you. 671 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: Did get your voice back, yeah, yeah, I know there 672 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: was some issues with the hemorrhaging. 673 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: And yeah, mostly though mostly I got it back. And 674 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: there's also a little bit where I'm just I'm a 675 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: little bit of a different singer, now you know what 676 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 2: I mean? 677 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: And that's okay, you know what I'm saying. 678 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, there was this rumor that at the NFL, 679 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: and I knew it was just a rumor, they find 680 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: you a billion dollars for singing the Black National anthem. 681 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: I was like, did you see this? I don't even 682 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: see that. It was a thing, like if. 683 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: You look it up, because I'm not She was like 684 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: a billion, she was like, you know they I was like, 685 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 3: that is not true. 686 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: She was They knew she was saying in the Black 687 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: National anthem. 688 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: First of all, a billion dollars. Now, I don't even 689 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: know how economics work in the base of the money. 690 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 4: All right, sign, how much did you think Billy paid me? Y'all? 691 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: Like, did you think they paid you for singing the anthems? 692 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: Out? 693 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 4: And then they do? Not a billion dollars? 694 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: Speaking suitable, I gotta show you this in any realm 695 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: of life, sue somebody for a billion dollars? 696 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: What about? 697 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: Because I was like, uh, she actually was commissioned to 698 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: do that. 699 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: They knew it was gonna. 700 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 4: Be my friends, Let that one go, friends. 701 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: Let there you go? 702 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: Yes, hold on, wait, let's see. Oh my god, this 703 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: is so crazy. A lot of different rumors started coming 704 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: up after a billion, when people like they're like, oh, 705 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: she's a great now we care she's a great actor, right, 706 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Then it was like Brad 707 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: Pitts now my boyfriend. Now apparently I'm getting find a 708 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: billion dollars? 709 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: Like I hear the Brad rumor, that's cute girl. 710 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: It was after the Oscar I have never even met y'all. 711 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: Just I've never even met that man. Andrew Day fined 712 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: one billion by NFL sleeking black national after what in 713 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: the maga. 714 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad you made the case. Thank you so much. 715 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: I was able you guys, just I won, so I 716 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 2: was able to retain my billion, thank you. 717 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: And then the NFL versus and to day thing. 718 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: Ever, the unprecedented find relaxed, They're not going to waste 719 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: a unpresident and find on me. 720 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 4: Thank you? 721 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: Like, well, that's been so funny, and so listen, how 722 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 3: did you prepare seeing how you prepared and did you 723 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: due diligence for Billie Holiday? 724 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: How do you prepare for the deliverance? 725 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 4: Oh? 726 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: Man, So it's really funny, and it's funny because Lee 727 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: echoes this and I remember him telling me on set 728 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: and I was like, no way, because I have the feeling. 729 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: But I was like, I'm just tripping. Maybe this experience 730 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: of Billy's just further away from me, so I don't remember. 731 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: But it felt on set so much harder to play 732 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: Ebony than it did to play Billy, which I was 733 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: just like, what, how Like you know what I mean? 734 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: I'm like why. So I prepared much. 735 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: In the same way that I prepared with with Uh 736 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: with Billy, except it was less less interaction with the 737 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: subject that I was playing, because like Billy, we were 738 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: specifically doing Billy and trying to tell the story, you know, 739 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: lead us. He didn't necessarily want me to talk to 740 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: LaToya quite yet before we were, you know, filming, while 741 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: we were filming, because he was like, I want to 742 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: make sure I want you to know about her story. 743 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 4: So I made sure to do the research. 744 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: And but I wanted I really want Ebony to be 745 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: her own actualized character. So he's like, it's not true 746 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: true biopic, you know what I mean? So I really 747 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: needed to. 748 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: Be Goodness because you would have had three kids, you 749 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: know what. 750 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: I'der staying My style is already said He'll give me 751 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: his little you know what I mean. So but yes, sorry, 752 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: y'all let me. I'm not I'm being too candid. I'm sorry. 753 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 2: But so anyway, So it was so he wanted to 754 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: develop his own thing with this, but it just felt 755 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: it was really interesting because I think I was able 756 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: to disappear more with and I think because I'm trying 757 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: to reconcile so much with who I am and all 758 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: those different also because being an actor will come somehow 759 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: make you crazy because I'm just an amalgamation of. 760 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: All of them. 761 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: But but she was just too normal for me. Does 762 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: that make sense? Like she had all of her issues, 763 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: but she was so close like culturally and even in 764 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: the time period that it took place, like I remember 765 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: all these things, I remember this style, I remember and 766 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: so and just finding that that niche of like who 767 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: is this woman who you know she is of her environment, 768 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: but she's also not super dupe, Like it's not gonna 769 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: be on the nose like John Da da da da da. 770 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, drawn da da da, Like 771 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: she really wanted to kind of one of those women 772 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: that gets out of her environment. 773 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: And I want to do something different. 774 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be like my mama because she's Ghatto 775 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: and she's you know what I mean, she one of them, 776 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: but she. 777 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 4: Is of her environment. 778 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: So it was just a lot of super duper nuance, 779 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: a lot of internal Like Ebanie's very much like she's 780 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: not as explosive as Billy. 781 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: She can be. 782 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: She definitely can be, but I think she's a little 783 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: more calculating. You know what I'm saying, right, I get it, 784 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: And so it kind of made it more difficult to 785 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: play her. And Lee told me on set, he said, 786 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: you know this is crazy, Andrew, I actually think you 787 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: are better in the Deliverance than you were even in Billy. 788 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 4: Which to me, like Lee be making me cry all 789 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: the time. He'd be doing too much. 790 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: He's making me cry, but after having the experience of 791 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: doing that movie, he should be. 792 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: And I trust anything he says. I trust everything he says. 793 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: And that's why I tell people, how do you know 794 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: if you're good after I don't. If Lee says, cut, 795 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: we got it, that's how I know we got it. 796 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: That's it, you know, like one hundred percent, you know 797 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: what I mean. So I'm prepared by just you know, 798 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: preparing the motherhood. I went and spent time in Philly 799 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: as well too. I spent time with Miss Jade out there, 800 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: and and and and just a lot of figures, and 801 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: spent time like in Philly, like with people from there 802 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: as well, because like you know, how it is like 803 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: you can't just drop into nice town and somebody said 804 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: and be like, hey, y'all, I'm preparing no, you know 805 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: what I mean, like respect, like you know, so I 806 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: wanted to make sure that I was like, you know, 807 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: but it and and without being so on the nose, 808 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, just little touches and and 809 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: and then spending time with kids and what that means 810 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: to just just have these three lives that are far 811 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: more important, you know what I mean than yours. Dealing 812 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: with alcohol addiction. I definitely was studying that in the 813 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: ways that it impacts you, what people are trying to 814 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: cover up with those things, and and then dealing with 815 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: like like you know, for me, it's like I always 816 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: tell people. I was like, I'm light skinned, but I'm 817 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: I really am mostly black. Like my mother is the 818 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: mixed one, so she has more of that experience. And 819 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: so it was delving into that because my mom is 820 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: black and white, okay, And so just just diving into 821 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: that sort of experience with her. My mom, actually I'm 822 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: speaking candidly, she actually shared a lot more of the 823 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: same traumas that Ebony shared, you know what I'm saying. 824 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: So it was, but she's not gonna watch the movie. 825 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: You said, no, she's not. 826 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: So she just doesn't like horror. 827 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: Movie if it ain't on Disney. Plus, mom is not 828 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: watching it. She's like, protect my piece. Protect I'm violent 829 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: about her piece. 830 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 4: Okay. 831 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: So, but it was it was kind of hard to 832 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: diving into some of those things with my mom. I 833 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: don't want to open up those traumas for her, you 834 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, and then diving into for 835 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: sure my own as well. But but yeah, it was 836 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: really an internal work of like, oh now we got 837 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: to talk about these things that we kind of kept 838 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: under wraps, you know what I'm saying, Like, now we 839 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: got to talk about the weird neighbor or the weird 840 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, So, but but that 841 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: was and then just working closely with Lee, I worked 842 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: with Tasha again as well, So. 843 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: I, oh my god, she's amazing. 844 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: When I tell you this, is a woman. It's just 845 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: you don't often meet people that believe in you even 846 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: more than you do, that might even want it even 847 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: more than you do for you, you know what I'm saying, 848 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: And that is her. She's an incredible director, incredible coach, 849 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: credible actress, like but she's also just an incredible mentor 850 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: and friend and like currently they've been a gift. 851 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 852 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: You got it. 853 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: I feel so bad. I'm like, all I'm spoilt. 854 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: How is it talking to LaToya? Is that I haven't? 855 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: I still actually haven't. Yeah, I still actually haven't. You know, Okay, 856 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: this is so so I really wanted to be sensitive. 857 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: I think most people are like, how could you play her? 858 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: And I talk to her, Like I said, again, they 859 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: didn't want me to because at first, because it was 860 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: like we need to craft our own independent story. The 861 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: other part is this woman is still very much I 862 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: you know, I have the number, and there are so 863 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: many times that I was praying. 864 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: I was like should I reach out now? Should I 865 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 4: reach out now? 866 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: And I just had yet because this is a really 867 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: traumatic experience for her, and I didn't want to do 868 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: the thing where I'm like, hi, I'm an actor and 869 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 2: I'm playing you so that I. 870 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: Could have the good LaToya story and dah da. 871 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: Da, Like she went through a lot, there are other 872 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: things that she went through that I will not speak 873 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: about now, you know what I mean. That she's still 874 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: dealing with the trauma of these things, you know what 875 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean. So, like I think I wanted to be 876 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: fully distanced from the bigness and the craziness of this 877 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: that she really does not want in her life. She 878 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: is still a recluse, like to this day, even like 879 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: when you watch documentaries of people trying to get her attention. 880 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: Even when Lee and the producers were trying to speak 881 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: to her, you know, it was she took a minute 882 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: for her to open up, you know what I'm saying, 883 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: and then she experienced some more trauma and shut right 884 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: back down. 885 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: Like so I just respectfully given yes. 886 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 4: It's just like. 887 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 2: There's so many big people calling her and she's clearly 888 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: unfazed by this because she's been through so much, and 889 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 2: so like I was like, eventually, I'm just praying about 890 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 2: like just just for God to open the door when 891 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 2: it's time to talk, and for healing and all these things. 892 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: I just don't want to exploit her life just for 893 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: the conversation, you know what I'm saying, because this is 894 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: real to her, still real to her. 895 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. That's traumatizing. I was traumatized watching it. 896 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean. 897 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 2: And like they do have this documentary out you don't 898 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: find much. I think she's done maybe two interviews, and 899 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: you can tell it's uncomfortable, Like and there's a documentary 900 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: where they really could only talk to like her cousin 901 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: because she wouldn't even open the door, you know what 902 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: I mean. So I'm like, you just you don't want 903 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: to press into people's space like that. So okay, I 904 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: get really respectful, you. 905 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 906 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: And then you have another movie coming out to. 907 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so excited called Exhibiting Forgiveness. Yes, I was 908 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 2: able to play again with Anja new ellis. Who oh, y'all, 909 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: y'all you have to go see this movie. It's it's 910 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 2: it's really Titus Kafar as the director. He's a first 911 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: time director. Okay, he's actually an incredible painter, you know 912 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like incredible artists, and so he's really 913 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: reconciling the relationship with his father, who was unfortunately a 914 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: victim of the drug drug epidemic, you know what I mean. 915 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: And he's really wrestling with the idea of how to forgive. 916 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 2: You know, we know we should forgive, we're supposed to, 917 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: but we don't talk about how hard fought forgiveness really is. 918 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: And so it's this man he's trying to build a 919 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: life of health and freedom. And that's I thought these 920 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: characters would be good for me too, because I was like, ooh, 921 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 2: she's healthy. 922 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 4: She checks in with her right exactly where I could 923 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 4: be healthy. 924 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 2: This So it's it's it's starring Andre Holland, Are new Ellis, 925 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 2: John Jelks myself, and it's just it's a really beautiful 926 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 2: story about a father son's story about forgiveness. But it 927 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 2: resonates just in any relationship you have where you're struggling 928 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 2: with forgiveness. 929 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, how is it for you working with another director? 930 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 4: Now? Uh? 931 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: It was scary at first because I listen to me, 932 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 2: listen I people tell me. I remember in the beginning, people, well, 933 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: they want you to I want to work with Lee. 934 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: I want to work with Lee. You can't only work 935 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 2: with Lee? 936 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 4: Why not? 937 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: I was like to explained to me, because guess what, 938 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: he already got another script in my in my in 939 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: my books already. 940 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 941 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say, yes, I'm doing that one as 942 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: well too, you know what I mean. So he's my scores, 943 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 2: like why not Spike, Denzel Scorsese and you know Robert 944 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: de Niro? 945 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: Why not? That is he is that director, you know 946 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 4: what I mean. 947 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 2: So but it was great, I think because I'm such 948 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: a huge fan of his paintings. I was like, Okay, 949 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: I gotta see he's a visionary. I gotta see what 950 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: he's doing with this movie. And it was actually really 951 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 2: working with him was really amazing, and working with the 952 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: cast was really amazing because it's such a fantastic story 953 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: and like, I really wanted to be there. I was 954 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: truly a support, like not just like a support character, 955 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 2: but support on set, and I really wanted to make sure, 956 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: like the other actors did that this vision came to 957 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: life because I know it would. 958 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 4: Impact people like that. 959 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: So it was cool. Working with a different director is interesting. 960 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 2: I watched him become a director on set as well too, 961 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Because there are moments when 962 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 2: he's a very nice person, and he wants to like, 963 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: let me make sure everybody did it, and he stayed 964 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 2: that way, but you get to a point where you realize, 965 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: I gotta get this done, you know what I mean. 966 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: So there were moments he would do things that actually reminded. 967 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 4: Me of leave. You know what I'm saying. So I 968 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 4: was like, yes, yes. 969 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: You're betteran now apparently now you guys three times in right. 970 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: Well listen that deliverance. 971 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: So it is going to be available on Netflix August thirtieth, August, 972 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 3: but it is going to be limited release in theaters. 973 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: Yes, August sixteenth, is that correct? 974 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 4: Yes, that's correct? 975 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, correct fifteenth, fifteenth? 976 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 4: Fifteenth or sixteenth? 977 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, one day Friday sixteenth, okay, all right, thirtieth on Netflix. 978 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: I'm not giving no spoilers, guys, but we definitely have 979 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: made a topic at of whether or not you've had 980 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 3: an interaction with any spirits. 981 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 4: I love that. 982 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for coming through. 983 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, and I know you for having us. 984 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah. 985 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: No, this was really fun for me just to be 986 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: able to have this conversation. 987 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 4: I enjoy this. 988 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked that question too. That's a really 989 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: you get some interesting thing. It's interesting to me when 990 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 2: you ask that question. If people have spiritual interaction, how 991 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 2: many of them are the same. 992 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying right listen. 993 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 3: I think as a kid, we all had that experience 994 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: where you're like running, like you feel like something's behind 995 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 3: you going up the stairs. 996 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: You got to turn the light constantly scare of the dark. 997 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: But would be stupid when I was young, like, I 998 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: had a recurring dream and I had it when I 999 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: was actually on the set of The Deliverance, and I 1000 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 2: haven't had it since I was like in middle school. 1001 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: What it's this big ass tomato, like this giant tomato 1002 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 2: you remembered. 1003 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 4: And it was my old house in Navy Housing. 1004 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: And there was like this great thing, you know what 1005 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 2: I mean in front of the house like all houses 1006 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 2: in the nineties. And I would be running and running 1007 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: and running away from this big ass tomatoes and then 1008 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: I would get behind it and then start shooting his 1009 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 2: little angry baby tomatoes at me. 1010 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: That was splat all around all. 1011 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 2: But I think there's a movie about a giant horrible 1012 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 2: You said we all had that dream. 1013 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: No, that was just me, Okay, I was gonna. 1014 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 3: Say that anybody in here had that dream, and that 1015 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 3: was just my I'm gonna google what a giant tomato throwing. 1016 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 4: Baby tomatoes, the big tomato. 1017 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: There was attack of the giant tomato. 1018 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 4: This is why I don't need to be watching the 1019 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 4: old ship. 1020 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: Of the Giant Tomato. I tacked to kill a tomatoes. 1021 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 4: That's it. That's it. 1022 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: A higher film from nineteen seventy. 1023 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 4: And it literally was a dream that stuck with me 1024 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 4: like my whole childhood. 1025 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 3: I was here oozing tomatoes go on the rampage, splattering 1026 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 3: innocent victims. 1027 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 4: And then there was the. 1028 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: Big winning Who's splattered. He's splattered right on my grill. 1029 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: I don't know why I shouldn't have watched this movie. 1030 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: And why would my mind grab onto such a dumb 1031 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 2: one that has. 1032 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: Something to do with your celibacy? For some reason? 1033 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 4: Why's she coming to me, y'all? It might be the images. 1034 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 4: The images are crazy, all right. 1035 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: But thank you so much, y'all. 1036 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 3: Make shall you take out the deliverance, Make sure you 1037 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 3: pick up the Cassane, Well, listen to the Cassandra. 1038 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: I guess no one picks up albums anymore, right, right, exactly? 1039 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: And the tour too, right. 1040 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: Yes, oh so m okay, so I might as well 1041 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: say this now I can say it now, right yeah, okay, 1042 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 2: so listen, here's the thing, y'all. 1043 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 4: So I had to postpone the tour, okay. 1044 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 2: Because it was going to be in August, but we're 1045 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: gonna do some dates actually in October now because we 1046 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: didn't when we booked it. We didn't know when the 1047 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 2: deliverance releasing or exhibiting forgiveness. So it was like, y'all, 1048 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: they were trying to kill me. So it was basically 1049 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 2: there were no days like I need to make sure 1050 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 2: like I'm singing, you know what I'm saying, I'm singing. 1051 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 4: The microphone was on during tour. 1052 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: Dates, so so basically it was no I'm I'm supposed 1053 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 2: to be in like three different cities sometimes on certain 1054 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: days it was there was no break. So I couldn't 1055 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 2: promote do press runs for two movies and tour at 1056 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: the same time because I felt like I'd be failing 1057 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: in both directions, missing press dates, not giving good shows 1058 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: because my waist is tired and all these things. So 1059 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 2: we just decided, like, let me give my full self 1060 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: to the press run of the deliverance because it deserves it, 1061 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 2: press run of exhibiting forgeinness it deserves it. 1062 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 4: And then fully gave to what you have to do. 1063 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So I'm sorry to say all of the 1064 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 2: refunds are there, you guys. I wanted to make sure 1065 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 2: it wasn't messy. We will be making an announcement, but yes, 1066 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: we did have to postpone it becauseuse because because. 1067 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: Girl tomatoes, and that would be y'all. 1068 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 2: Don't get no ideas, do not get no ideas. 1069 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 3: All right, Well, honestly, this is amazing. 1070 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. 1071 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you well