Speaker 1: What is your biggest basketball superstition?
Speaker 2: Biggest basketball superstition Before every game, I gotta take a
Speaker 2: dunk with my shoes off and no clothes on. I
Speaker 2: gotta sit on the toilet and take a big ass dump.
Speaker 2: That's my superstition before every game.
Speaker 1: If I don't take my dop, what a game?
Speaker 2: If I don't take no dump with no clothes on
Speaker 2: before the game, it's a wrap. I don't have a
Speaker 2: good game. Yeah, I gotta I gotta take my dog. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be ready for the game.
Speaker 1: Get them all out.
Speaker 3: Welcome to no dunks here on the Athletic Podcast Network.
Speaker 3: We won't be talking about Dwight Howard and his superstition.
Speaker 3: Can't believe it. It's Thursday. We had a draft, baby
Speaker 3: on a Wednesday. I'm tasmells with me. It's the man
Speaker 3: in the middle, Trey Kirby Ayo and the man making
Speaker 3: it happen as always.
Speaker 4: JD. Hello, what's up?
Speaker 1: JD?
Speaker 4: What's well? We had a draft?
Speaker 1: We got ourselves a draft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's jump right in. Let's jump right in because
Speaker 3: there's a lot to get through. Obviously Cooper went number one.
Speaker 3: We will see it here. What a shock, Yeah, big
Speaker 3: time shocker. I was a little surprised by Adam Silver
Speaker 3: coming out with his opening spiel, welcome to a new
Speaker 3: era of basketball.
Speaker 1: Every team has a chance. Yes, yeah, I was a
Speaker 1: little surprised too. It is always such a funny start
Speaker 1: to the draft where the Mavericks have known they've had
Speaker 1: the number one pick for a month at this point,
Speaker 1: and then they get five more minutes to decide on
Speaker 1: who they're going to take number one in a draft
Speaker 1: where everybody knows who they're going to take number one.
Speaker 1: But you know they're a huge winner of this draft,
Speaker 1: jumping up in the lottery to be able to draft
Speaker 1: Cooper Flag. You can tell they were going to be
Speaker 1: a winner because the draft started with a hot mic
Speaker 1: moment somebody yelling the draft was ragged. That was hilarious
Speaker 1: to me. But Adam Cooper Flag an obvious choice, the
Speaker 1: main event, one of the best nicknames already in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Once he comes to it, I was reminded just how
Speaker 1: sweaty this guy is when he's playing. When he was
Speaker 1: there for Duke. But yeah, what a fortunate turn of
Speaker 1: events for the Mavericks to have the Luca dontch trade
Speaker 1: completely throw away an era of Dallas basketball. But this
Speaker 1: is the start of a new era. We'll see how
Speaker 1: he fits alongside Anthony Davis Lively and then you know
Speaker 1: gafferd and PJ. Washington. There's a lot of big dudes there,
Speaker 1: as we've been talking about, but they got to be
Speaker 1: super excited to get this guy. In interesting timing, decided
Speaker 1: to go with a go tee though I thought.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, interesting, what else would he do? Really?
Speaker 1: And keep it clean, I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I will say this about Cooper Flag.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's probably it's kind of anti climactt when you
Speaker 3: start the draft and you get five minutes of you
Speaker 3: know his backstory. We know it's coming, but we have
Speaker 3: to start here with our winners with Cooper Flag because
Speaker 3: he is the best player in the draft, and we'll
Speaker 3: get to some surprises and who we perceive is questionable
Speaker 3: picks a little bit later. But Cooper, I think some
Speaker 3: good signs here at the draft is that he gave
Speaker 3: his mom his phone, because even I was surprised.
Speaker 1: I was surprised.
Speaker 3: I think it was probably half an hour later where
Speaker 3: he was on the desk and they asked him, Hey,
Speaker 3: you've got your fans in main there in different environments,
Speaker 3: at your gym, at other restaurants, cheering you on. He said,
Speaker 3: Oh really, I had no idea, like this guy must
Speaker 3: know everything. He said, well, my mom's got my phone,
Speaker 3: so I haven't. I haven't heard anything. And again I say,
Speaker 3: it's half an hour. He didn't know anything for half
Speaker 3: an hour. That's great sign. All I'm saying is a
Speaker 3: great sign to be present in the moment to play
Speaker 3: basketball because he seems like he's got a great head
Speaker 3: on his shoulders and he'll be ready to play from
Speaker 3: day one in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's got to be The exciting thing
Speaker 1: is that not only is the youngest player in the draft,
Speaker 1: he's the most talented player in the draft, and by
Speaker 1: all accounts, one of the hardest workers in the draft.
Speaker 1: So you put those three things together and things are
Speaker 1: looking up in Dallas, which is just amazing considered that
Speaker 1: four months ago things were looking totally down in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I mean, would you rather have Luca or Cooper Flag?
Speaker 1: I don't know. They got Cooper Flag now, and that's
Speaker 1: that's just crazy.
Speaker 4: Well, let's start towards the top there, because we got
Speaker 4: Dylan Harper number two, and then you know, I uh,
Speaker 4: the number three was slightly questionable with the Philadelphia seventy
Speaker 4: six ers, but we've kind of got the standard one, two,
Speaker 4: three here at the top.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people knew that Harper was going to go number two.
Speaker 1: A lot of draft experts were saying he could have
Speaker 1: been a number one draft pick in another draft or
Speaker 1: in some of these previous drafts, like he probably would
Speaker 1: have went number one over Resa sche last year if
Speaker 1: Harper was available. I think interesting that the Spurs did
Speaker 1: give Dylan Harper number two. Kawhi Leonard's number, the last
Speaker 1: guy to wear it there in San Antonio. He is
Speaker 1: the number two draft pick. I'm a little curious how
Speaker 1: Harper will fit next to Diaron Fox. You know, Harper
Speaker 1: is a guy who likes to handle the ball. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Daron Fox is a point guard there. I wonder if
Speaker 1: the Spurs would have traded for Darreon Fox, if they
Speaker 1: could have had a crystal ball and saw that they
Speaker 1: were gonna end up being able to draft Dylan Harper.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Nonetheless, they got Dylan Harper's gonna be
Speaker 1: cool to see him and Wenby growing together going forward.
Speaker 1: They've got the past two rookies of the Year as well.
Speaker 1: Stefan Castle like he's easy to overlook at this point.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's easy to overlook Fox at this point.
Speaker 1: The Spurs are getting some talent together, and who knows
Speaker 1: the way the Fox thing turns out. Maybe he carries
Speaker 1: the team from the perimeter for a couple of seasons
Speaker 1: as Harper is getting his feet wet in the NBA,
Speaker 1: and by the time Fox's contract is ready to be
Speaker 1: moved on from San Antonio, it's time for Harper to
Speaker 1: take the reins on the outside. I think a smart pick.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew it was gonna happen. The draft definitely started
Speaker 1: at number three with VJ. Edge come going to Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I loved his interview afterwards. We came from nothing, great intensity,
Speaker 1: his mom's cry and finally like steadies herself and she's like,
Speaker 1: he's right. We came from nothing and he's gonna work
Speaker 1: super hard. The guy gets comped to Victor Oladipo, and
Speaker 1: even his draft interview reminded me of Victor Oladipo when
Speaker 1: he went to the Magic He's like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: outwork everybody. I think kind of weird going on in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia right now. Yeah, the back court is all young dudes, Maxi, McCain, Edgecumbe.
Speaker 1: Now maybe they're able to bring back Quentin Grimes. Those
Speaker 1: are guys who are super athletic, younger dudes on the perimeter.
Speaker 1: Then they're front court is all old guys. Joel Embiid
Speaker 1: thirty one years old, Paul George thirty five. You can
Speaker 1: even look at Andre Drubbing at thirty two, Yabucela at thirty.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know how those two mix. How do
Speaker 1: you play through the athletic guys, the up tempo guys
Speaker 1: in the backcourt? Well, the front court just wants to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more methodical, a little bit more established.
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting two timelines thing that's going
Speaker 1: on in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess kudos to Maury for going with the
Speaker 3: best available in their eyes at this point, because really
Speaker 3: we talked about the old guys. The question is, yes,
Speaker 3: it's two tiers here in two different directions, but will
Speaker 3: they play? And so you probably make a smart move
Speaker 3: by going to be j Edgecumb and just saying, hey,
Speaker 3: we're going young now we will we see Edgecumb playing
Speaker 3: with Maxie even or is there too much of a
Speaker 3: duplicity there that you may just need to keep Maxi
Speaker 3: on the floor while Edgecumb comes off the bench.
Speaker 4: But the fact is the.
Speaker 3: Guy is an extremely athletic player and we will see
Speaker 3: him in the NBA for a long time. Whether it
Speaker 3: takes a couple of years, whether or not they can
Speaker 3: merge these this this young old thing that they got
Speaker 3: going on, who knows, but I do like he has
Speaker 3: mom bounced back. Edgecumb also met Buddy Heald after and
Speaker 3: Buddy held it's yes, he's Buddy Heeled. He's not necessarily
Speaker 3: a mentor in the NBA, but the fellow Bahamian guy
Speaker 3: who did a great job in Round number one here
Speaker 3: with the Golden State Warriors. I mean he really shut
Speaker 3: down Jalen Green one game that was his best defensive
Speaker 3: game ever. So if there's anybody to be a mentor,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't think it's Buddy Heeled. But I think it's
Speaker 3: just a great guy to have around. So that's yeah.
Speaker 3: Sixers are very very very interesting. Obviously the talk not
Speaker 3: going with Ace Bailey there, which we'll get to later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pacers also give Buddy Healed like a ton of
Speaker 1: credit for helping Aaron Nesmith turn his career around in Indiana.
Speaker 1: So definitely not a bad guy to listen to it.
Speaker 1: And I think you're right about the athleticism, Like the
Speaker 1: Sixers really need some perimeter defense, they really need some athleticism.
Speaker 1: They were on the slower side of things. I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of that is because they brought in like
Speaker 1: a Yabu sel A Drummond. They gave Eric Gornon minutes
Speaker 1: last year, like Kyle Lowry's getting minutes. They needed an
Speaker 1: injection of youth. So yeah, I don't necessarily know that
Speaker 1: three small guards in Maxie McCain and edgecomb is like
Speaker 1: the perfect mix now, but they need some young dudes
Speaker 1: who are going to get out and run. It's a
Speaker 1: long season and those guys have a better chance of
Speaker 1: staying healthy and contributing all year long. We'll see if
Speaker 1: edgecumb ever develops a three point shot, if he gets
Speaker 1: better at finishing like in half court situations. But he's
Speaker 1: an exciting player and he's definitely got a lot of
Speaker 1: upside and he fits needs for Philadelphia as well well.
Speaker 1: It's just going to be a matter of keeping everybody
Speaker 1: on the court and figuring out the best way to
Speaker 1: maximivee ever everybody's talents.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a huge question with the Sixers as
Speaker 3: to who they bring back period, because you mentioned Embiat
Speaker 3: and George guaranteed.
Speaker 4: Maxie also guaranteed money.
Speaker 3: But beyond that gwent Grime's free agent Kelly Ubre player option.
Speaker 3: Who knows who they bring back other than the young
Speaker 3: guys that we mentioned. Onto the san Antonio side, they
Speaker 3: get Dylan Harper, very fun. I liked how dad Ron
Speaker 3: Harper wasn't even part of the interview. It's the same
Speaker 3: for me. This is Dylan's time, so we will see
Speaker 3: how he plays with Daron Fox and to Fox Castle.
Speaker 3: You make a good point about whether or not if
Speaker 3: they knew that this was coming, whether or not they
Speaker 3: would have made the dearon Fox trade. It's a very
Speaker 3: interesting way to think about it, because, yeah, they now
Speaker 3: have a young glut like will he play with Fox
Speaker 3: and Castle? They go at number fourteen and get Carter Bryant,
Speaker 3: who looks awesome, looks like a prototypical san Antonio spur
Speaker 3: on the wing, will work harder than anyone. Like you
Speaker 3: just mentioned about guys working harder than anyone, This guy
Speaker 3: looks like he's going to be an incredible defender. You
Speaker 3: mentioned Kawhi. I shouldn't say him in the same sentence,
Speaker 3: but this guy is gonna play that hard. He's nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty seven, an incredible defender. So it looks like all
Speaker 3: good for the San Antonio Spurs. I would say I
Speaker 3: like the Bryant pick as well.
Speaker 1: I think they got him at fourteen, right, And he
Speaker 1: was a guy who was could have gone top ten
Speaker 1: depending on how the draft shook out, if it was
Speaker 1: different teams up there. Who knows, But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: is he going to be Kauhi? Who knows? He doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be Kawha. They've got a lot of other
Speaker 1: mouths to feed there in San Antonio.
Speaker 4: So the timeline, well, yeah, he fits.
Speaker 1: The timeline perfectly. They need some wing defense, they need
Speaker 1: some athleticism as well. Like he'll be in the mix
Speaker 1: with Vasal, will certainly be ahead of him in the
Speaker 1: pecking order, but like he'll be in the mix with Johnson.
Speaker 1: I believe Jeremy Sohan, like the Spurs are trying to
Speaker 1: figure out the perfect pieces to fit around Wemby and
Speaker 1: a guy who can hit open threes and run the
Speaker 1: court and play defense is always going to have a spot.
Speaker 3: Let's move on to the Atlanta Hawks, who are a
Speaker 3: winner lock, not necessarily for the who they drafted, although
Speaker 3: obviously it's a good pick at number twenty three, but.
Speaker 1: Business lock, at least business lock for sure.
Speaker 3: They traded the number thirteen pick to the Pelicans for
Speaker 3: the twenty three pick and an unprotected twenty twenty six
Speaker 3: first round pick, which is the most favorable favorable of
Speaker 3: New Orleans and Milwaukee. You don't see that very often,
Speaker 3: the more favorable pick. Usually it's the weaker pick. But
Speaker 3: we're talking about New Orleans or Milwaukee, and if one
Speaker 3: of them could be bad. You traded the thirteen pick
Speaker 3: for the twenty three pick this year, and one of those,
Speaker 3: which could be a replication of another thirteen pick, easily
Speaker 3: could be a higher Oh definitely, I mean one of
Speaker 3: those teams could be bad.
Speaker 1: Everybody's looking at New Orleans as the team who would
Speaker 1: most likely give up a top five pick if things
Speaker 1: went poorly. You know who knows if Zion's able to play.
Speaker 1: They've made some weird moves. We are going to get
Speaker 1: to them in the surprises portion of today's show. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's completely out of the realm
Speaker 1: of possibility that the Bucks are the ones who are
Speaker 1: for that pick. Lillard is going to be missing the
Speaker 1: majority of the season, if not all of the season,
Speaker 1: so it would have to be kind of like San
Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs David Robinson goes down, so then they can
Speaker 1: tank things out and get the pick, you know, if
Speaker 1: want to get yeah, like I mean a Kyle Kuzma
Speaker 1: led team I don't think would be getting out of
Speaker 1: the lottery, but that would require Giannis going down. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: the Hawks get two looks at it, right the Pelicans,
Speaker 1: which is more likely. Maybe the Bucks happens all to
Speaker 1: just be able to trade down ten spots and get
Speaker 1: a guy that they could have maybe taken at thirteen
Speaker 1: in Asa Nouel, who has Atlanta ties, played at University
Speaker 1: of Georgia and now we'll be playing here in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool, good stuff, I think for the Hawks to
Speaker 1: offset the pick that they owe to the Spurs next season,
Speaker 1: it's like Hawks are not tanking right now. Right sure,
Speaker 1: they made the trade for Porzingis, they had the number
Speaker 1: one draft pick last year, Trey Young is sticking around.
Speaker 1: They're still trying to win and now they have a
Speaker 1: chance of getting a lottery picked next year. Auncy Sala
Speaker 1: has been in the job for like a month and
Speaker 1: a half at this point, and he's made two great
Speaker 1: trades in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about the Kris STAPs Porzingis deal and
Speaker 3: wondered how much of a risk this is for the Alantahawks,
Speaker 3: or that was for the Alannahawks giving up the number
Speaker 3: twenty two pick for kristaphs Porzingis. We got to be clear,
Speaker 3: it may be we may have seen the best day
Speaker 3: of kristaphs Porzingis in the past. We seriously don't know,
Speaker 3: so maybe that was a risk. But then you turn
Speaker 3: around after trading the number twenty two pick and getting
Speaker 3: the number twenty three pick in this one for the thirteen,
Speaker 3: they draft Asa Newell, who, yes, maybe not a prototypical
Speaker 3: star in this league, but by some accounts, the analytics
Speaker 3: model view him more favorably than the eye test.
Speaker 1: And that's a good sign.
Speaker 3: And then, yes, as you said, Aunci Salle making the
Speaker 3: move to get that twenty twenty six first round pick
Speaker 3: as well, so they are making sure that things don't
Speaker 3: go awry immediately by giving up a pick for Kristaps
Speaker 3: Porzingis and if that doesn't go well, then there's the
Speaker 3: real but you get the pick next year again, which
Speaker 3: could be very solid. I doubt it's going to be
Speaker 3: the Bucks just because, yeah, I said to Kumpo is
Speaker 3: the guy.
Speaker 1: But more likely the Pelicans for sure. But all it
Speaker 1: takes is Jannis missing forty games or something, you know,
Speaker 1: and then the Bucks are definitely falling down the standings
Speaker 1: either way. Betting against the Pelicans right now is probably
Speaker 1: a smart move for Atlanta.
Speaker 3: It sure is, yeah, which we'll get to. But Ason
Speaker 3: Nowell again, as you said, sort of a local guy
Speaker 3: at six po' nine, it makes sense that he could
Speaker 3: be part of the Atlanta Hawks path, you know, giving
Speaker 3: him a couple of years to get better. And yes,
Speaker 3: kudos to ense Sola and then the new hires there
Speaker 3: and Brian Graham, Pierre Dunwitty made something happen here, so
Speaker 3: kudos to that.
Speaker 1: Hawks are gonna need to be looking for another ball handler,
Speaker 1: I think off the bench, probably like Laverte is a
Speaker 1: free agent. I believe maybe they find a good deal
Speaker 1: for him to come back for a little bit cheaper.
Speaker 1: But right now, if Trey Young were to miss any
Speaker 1: sort of time, there's not necessarily somebody to take the
Speaker 1: reins and lead the offense, like Jalen Johnson can be
Speaker 1: a good creator. I think he's better out of like
Speaker 1: the short role in making plays off of Trey Young.
Speaker 1: Daniels is really erratic as a playmaker. Sometimes he makes
Speaker 1: beautiful passes, you're not necessarily confident when he's driving into
Speaker 1: the land to shoot floaters. It's just very up and
Speaker 1: down with him. So I think that'll be the next
Speaker 1: area to address. Somebody else who can take back up
Speaker 1: point guard minutes for the for Atlanta here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a very good point.
Speaker 3: Looking forward to see what they do because it would
Speaker 3: be great to see Jalen Johnson on the floor because
Speaker 3: he does so much on the floor. Yeah, would be
Speaker 3: good to see Kobe Buffkin in a backup role.
Speaker 1: He was banged up last year too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they seem to have enough guys to handle the ball.
Speaker 3: If Dyson Daniels kind of takes a few steps down
Speaker 3: on the pecking order in terms of ball handling, then
Speaker 3: we were seeing some things a zacharyisa Che obviously having
Speaker 3: that as well. There's a lot of guys there. Looking
Speaker 3: forward to seeing what the Hawks become even here in
Speaker 3: twenty five twenty six. Moving on to the Phoenix Suns,
Speaker 3: who are a winner at the draft. Didn't think I
Speaker 3: would be saying that, but for a couple of reasons.
Speaker 3: Do you want to start with drafting a seven to
Speaker 3: two kid from Duke or do you want to start
Speaker 3: with the trade?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's no. I guess we'll start with Mallowatch because
Speaker 1: to me, he was one of the best fits in
Speaker 1: the draft. The Sons need a center, they got a center.
Speaker 1: It hit me right. The thing though, is that he's
Speaker 1: ten years younger than Devin Booker, so maybe Maliwatch isn't
Speaker 1: hitting his peak when they need him to be hitting
Speaker 1: his peak, because if Devin Booker's still trying to win
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, he's not waiting around for a teenager to
Speaker 1: be good. So that's why they swung the deal from
Speaker 1: Mark Williams. Pretty weird that the Sons are just like,
Speaker 1: we want what the Hornets had last year Nick Richards
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. Now they've got Mark Williams coming in,
Speaker 1: kind of similar to what they did when they got
Speaker 1: the two big men from the Portland Trailblazers. That his
Speaker 1: use of Nurkic and Drew u Banks at the time
Speaker 1: that didn't work out out for Phoenix, apparently looking at
Speaker 1: teams with bad defenses and saying we want the backbone.
Speaker 1: Maybe not the smartest move. So the twenty twenty nine
Speaker 1: first that the Suns traded is the worst of Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Utah and Minnesota, right, not the biggest risk. I don't
Speaker 1: think for Phoenix to throw this trade in there because
Speaker 1: they need somebody who's a little bit more ready to
Speaker 1: play in Mark Williams. The risk to me is the
Speaker 1: health for Mark. Oh. The deal was done with the Lakers, right,
Speaker 1: they looked at his physical and maybe they were just
Speaker 1: having buyers remorse and said we want to get out
Speaker 1: of this. But there are definitely concerns for Mark Williams
Speaker 1: if he can stay on the court. But when he plays,
Speaker 1: he's pretty effective, right, Like he scores inside, he gives
Speaker 1: it an effort defensively, and he's a really, really big body.
Speaker 1: So I think the Suns addressed their center position. They
Speaker 1: might have spent a lot of money to do it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they're just are a lot of pick capital
Speaker 1: to do it. But they're just trying to dig their
Speaker 1: way out of a hole that they've been in for
Speaker 1: the past season and a half since the Bradley Beald
Speaker 1: deal got done.
Speaker 3: You're right in that it just seems like maybe two
Speaker 3: picks for Mark Williams is a little bit much. So
Speaker 3: they traded the twenty nine pick here in this draft
Speaker 3: and a twenty twenty nine first round pick, So it's
Speaker 3: down the road and it's going to be the worst
Speaker 3: of Cleveland, Utah, or Minnesota. So you'd think one of
Speaker 3: those team is going to be good. So it's not
Speaker 3: going to be a great pick for a guy that
Speaker 3: just failed a physical. Yeah, now, and everybody ridiculing this
Speaker 3: saying why would you pay so much for a guy
Speaker 3: who failed physical? But at the same time, I think
Speaker 3: a lot of media would say when the Lakers made
Speaker 3: that deal for him.
Speaker 4: That's a good deal.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna play with Lebron, he's gonna play
Speaker 3: with Luca at that point. And at the same time,
Speaker 3: you're right, he doesn't play a lot, that's obviously a
Speaker 3: huge problem, and he doesn't play defense all that great.
Speaker 3: But at the same I look at it both ways.
Speaker 3: He disputed the failed physical. He was quoted saying I
Speaker 3: don't think it was solely because of my physical I
Speaker 3: felt like I could have contributed to them, but obviously
Speaker 3: they had second thoughts, basically saying it wasn't the physical,
Speaker 3: they just didn't want me, or they gred at the
Speaker 3: pick immediately. His agent obviously disputed it and saying that's
Speaker 3: not the case. So they getting Mark Williams for two
Speaker 3: picks to go along with Malwatch, who looks great period.
Speaker 3: I was scared watching those block highlights during the draft.
Speaker 3: The guy is common for everything, a seven to six wingspan,
Speaker 3: He is a block machine. He's nineteen years old and
Speaker 3: he started playing like six years ago, and so you
Speaker 3: can I start to think of guys like Pascal Siakam
Speaker 3: who started playing really late, like he's gonna develop. Whether
Speaker 3: his timeline matches Devin Booker is a great question because
Speaker 3: it does seem like it's going to take a little
Speaker 3: bit of time.
Speaker 4: But at the center spot, now the phoenix suns.
Speaker 3: If you combo those two guys, Malwatch doesn't have to
Speaker 3: play a ton, Mark Williams doesn't have to play a ton.
Speaker 3: They're gonna play over Nick Richards or Ohsa Goodaro. So
Speaker 3: they're trying to get good real fast.
Speaker 1: Their center rotation is a lot better today than it
Speaker 1: was yesterday, and the Sun's paid a smaller price than
Speaker 1: the Lakers did at the trade deadline, even though the
Speaker 1: trade did and end up happening, because what was that
Speaker 1: that was connect and I think three first round picks
Speaker 1: for Mark Williams at the time, so better job for
Speaker 1: Phoenix here. It was just very weird to see draft
Speaker 1: a center that everybody was thinking it was going to
Speaker 1: go to the Suns, and then they did the Mark
Speaker 1: Williams trade within seconds. It felt like it felt like
Speaker 1: they made two calls to the league. They're like, all right,
Speaker 1: here's our draft pick. Hang up. All right, here's the
Speaker 1: trade we're doing. Hang up. Also, I think it was
Speaker 1: very funny. Vasily Metchich was traded from Charlotte to Phoenix
Speaker 1: in the Nick Richards trade at the trade deadline last night,
Speaker 1: had his eight million dollar option picked up kind of
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and then shipped back to Charlotte from
Speaker 1: Phoenix in the Mark Williams trade. Eight million dollars will
Speaker 1: buy you a lot of wigs. It's all look good.
Speaker 4: It's so many wigs.
Speaker 3: I hope Mark Williams can get healthy because it is
Speaker 3: a guy, clearly who hasn't played a lot. Forty four
Speaker 3: games last year, nineteen the year before that, and forty
Speaker 3: three in his rookie year. So yeah, I guess the
Speaker 3: physical did show some problems.
Speaker 1: At the very least, his game logs show that he's
Speaker 1: missing time with injuries. Are these chronic injuries that aren't
Speaker 1: going to go away? We don't know. Different doctors have
Speaker 1: different opinions, and it seems like, at least with the
Speaker 1: way things went down with the Lakers, you can find
Speaker 1: somebody to say what you need them to say. Apparently
Speaker 1: the Sons are more confident that Mark Williams is going
Speaker 1: to stay on the court, and if he does, that
Speaker 1: definitely helps them out.
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to the Washington Wizards. They're
Speaker 3: a winner in my eyes. Trey, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I think? So? I mean, they were hoping, it seemed
Speaker 1: like to get Ace Bailey. I'll get to the jazz
Speaker 1: here in a second. But I do like Trey Johnson
Speaker 1: as a player. Tabbed as the best shooter in the draft,
Speaker 1: the most shooting talent, I guess Jay Billis was kind
Speaker 1: of debating between him and con Canipple. You know, Canipple
Speaker 1: is a catch and shoot guy, whereas Trey Johnson is
Speaker 1: kind of like a new age Rip Hamilton, coming off screens,
Speaker 1: movement shooter, not shooting mid rangers like Rip Hamilton, but
Speaker 1: three pointers as well. I like him with Bub Carrington
Speaker 1: just a little stray that there are so many other
Speaker 1: ball handlers in the way of both Bub and now
Speaker 1: Trade Johnson. CJ. McCollum. Trade just got done. They got
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart, they got Chris Middleton cool exactly. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of different players in Washington. The Vets aren't going
Speaker 1: to stick around for the whole season, not all of
Speaker 1: them at least. But you know, Trade Johnson I think
Speaker 1: is a good pick for them. He's going to be
Speaker 1: a guy that at the very least is an awesome
Speaker 1: sixth man. Seems like a bucket. I like watching those
Speaker 1: kind of players. He's fun to watch, I think. So
Speaker 1: we'll see if he ends up being the star of
Speaker 1: the Wizard's need. I don't know if he has that
Speaker 1: kind of upside. But I do like the pick.
Speaker 3: You know, I just more so than the pick, although
Speaker 3: it's a good pick, I just like the mentality that
Speaker 3: the Wizards are going forward with.
Speaker 1: They're at least saying, we're basically.
Speaker 3: Trying to copy the Thunder, in my opinion, just get
Speaker 3: as many young guys as possible. And they don't have
Speaker 3: a they don't have any sort of MVP on their team,
Speaker 3: and that we just mentioned, yeah that is a problem,
Speaker 3: but they do have just young guys who are going
Speaker 3: to play ball.
Speaker 1: Trey Johnson here is.
Speaker 3: Quotes, I don't really have a life outside of basketball,
Speaker 3: and that was up to me. All your dreams is
Speaker 3: in the gym. They ain't nowhere else, you know, so
Speaker 3: and it's it's got that oka see Chill. I mean
Speaker 3: we saw their celebration after the winning. They don't They're
Speaker 3: just there's just love playing ball and they're just as
Speaker 3: simple as that. So him cool Bally keishon George alexar bub.
Speaker 4: Carrington super young, super super young young.
Speaker 3: But I do like the idea if you lump together
Speaker 3: them saying goodbye to Jordan Poole in the trade, they are,
Speaker 3: They're just who they are now and they basically tried
Speaker 3: to take another path here with you know, maybe I'm
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think that try and emulate the Thunder
Speaker 3: like a lot with in my eyes by projection because
Speaker 3: I think a lot of teams should be, and maybe
Speaker 3: I'm trying to emulate that because the Wizards now have
Speaker 3: some front office ties to the Oklahoma City Thunder. But
Speaker 3: I think it just it's just smarter than what they
Speaker 3: did last year.
Speaker 4: So that's all.
Speaker 1: That's all I think, just.
Speaker 3: In theory, just going back, I mean, there was just
Speaker 3: a terrible team yes last year with Jordan Poole leading
Speaker 3: their team air quotes, leading their team. Now they're going
Speaker 3: in a different direction, so I just think that's smart.
Speaker 3: And they also get you know, via trade Will Riley
Speaker 3: a little bit later at the number twenty one pick,
Speaker 3: who again a tough worker and will work hard on
Speaker 3: this team.
Speaker 4: But they'll lose games.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I mean the six or the Wizards are
Speaker 1: probably going to lose sixty plus games still, But if
Speaker 1: they only lose sixty two, that's awesome. Twenty wins would
Speaker 1: be an improvement for the Wizards. They'll be down at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the standings, but they are on the
Speaker 1: come up now and since the new front office is
Speaker 1: taken over, I have like the general direction for the Wizards.
Speaker 1: I thought they were a fun watch the second half
Speaker 1: of the season. Will Riley has to become a no
Speaker 1: Dunk's favorite though he's from Kitchener, Ontario and he played
Speaker 1: college basketball at the University of Illinois. We simply must and.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 1: I'm also given a winner to the Utah Jazz. I
Speaker 1: like taking Ace Bailey taking a swing at number five.
Speaker 1: Who cares about workouts when you have pedigree? Is basically
Speaker 1: what Danny and Austin Angers say, and I loved his charisma.
Speaker 1: In his pre draft interview with Monica mcnug They're like,
Speaker 1: what are you most excited about it? Like, I'm ready
Speaker 1: a hooop, I'm ready to assigned that contract, which I
Speaker 1: thought was pretty funny. Utah that was looking for a star,
Speaker 1: and I think once you got past the top two picks,
Speaker 1: Ace Bailey is maybe the biggest star upside. A lot
Speaker 1: of people have different comps for him. Some people see
Speaker 1: a Kevin Durant like character and that he's tall and
Speaker 1: lanky and a really good shooter. So was Rudy Gay.
Speaker 1: You know, Rudy Gay is definitely more where I see
Speaker 1: a guy like Ace Bailey. But I think he's got
Speaker 1: a big opportunity in Utah because they really need somebody
Speaker 1: to be their franchise cornerstone. Marknen is their best player
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know how long term he is
Speaker 1: for the Jazz. But once Ace Bailey gets over the
Speaker 1: shock of being selected by Utah, he didn't necessarily look thrilled.
Speaker 1: I didn't. Once he gets over that, he'll see that
Speaker 1: he's probably in a pretty good situation. And what it
Speaker 1: seemed like he was looking for throughout the pre draft
Speaker 1: process a place to stretch his game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think Will Hardy will have a good
Speaker 3: effect on him. Will Hardy's schemes and strategies with those
Speaker 3: guys is everybody moving, everybody touching the ball, and everybody
Speaker 3: was buying into a team that lost a lot, and
Speaker 3: he has to buy into that, and so that is questionable.
Speaker 1: But he's got the talent.
Speaker 3: And so they did take a chance here for a
Speaker 3: team that dropped to five to be able to get
Speaker 3: a guy who, as you said, you know, top three
Speaker 3: in terms of talent. Wise, you could put him up
Speaker 3: even higher because he's got such a ceiling. And then
Speaker 3: to go get Walter Clayton Junior, who's obviously a champ
Speaker 3: with the Gators. He's twenty two, he's older, but he
Speaker 3: seems like he's such a modern player. You know, watching
Speaker 3: his tape, he can make shots, his percentages are great,
Speaker 3: and you had Rich Paul high fiving his baby after.
Speaker 3: So if Rich Paul is in the house, baby, Rich
Speaker 3: Paul is attaching himself to you, You're probably gonna be good,
Speaker 3: I imagine. I mean, he's gonna get paid, baby's gonna
Speaker 3: be well off. But I do I do think.
Speaker 1: The baby well off. I do think he's great for
Speaker 1: the baby. Walter Clayton, the third baby. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was a baby baby or a girl baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good call. Yeah, because Walter Clayton is
Speaker 3: a junior. But overall, I do think the Jazz run
Speaker 3: the right type of environment for very, very talented guys
Speaker 3: who want to buy in just a little bit. Well,
Speaker 3: I think Will Hardy will hook them in. So if
Speaker 3: Walton Walter Clayton's making shots and Ace Bailey is dedicated,
Speaker 3: I know it's it's an if. With Ace Bailey specifically,
Speaker 3: they got players.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the Clayton pick too. I was a
Speaker 1: little surprised they traded up. They only moved up three spots,
Speaker 1: but they gave away the number forty three pick that
Speaker 1: Will happen tonight and then a couple of seconds in
Speaker 1: the future. The Jazz have a ton of picks, so
Speaker 1: they can afford to do that kind of thing if
Speaker 1: they if they like somebody, which apparently they do with
Speaker 1: Walter Clayton Junior. But it's just a crowded backcourt. I
Speaker 1: think in Utah they got Colin Sexton still around. They
Speaker 1: drafted Kiante George a couple of years ago, they drafted
Speaker 1: Isaiah Collier last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is Jordan Clarkson still on the payroll, I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but they've got a lot of options there. To me,
Speaker 1: this just kind of signals that with Austin Ainge coming
Speaker 1: into the front office, they don't really care about anything
Speaker 1: that happened in the past. They're starting over and maybe
Speaker 1: this is the guard they're going to have, But there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who are going to be
Speaker 1: getting opportunities in Utah and maybe Clayton is the guy
Speaker 1: that finally pops for him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. They have a lot of guys.
Speaker 3: Sex and Clarkson both have one more season left, but
Speaker 3: they are looking towards the future. Other than Larry Mark
Speaker 3: and then they don't have a lot of guys who
Speaker 3: are helping them win. Frankly, yeah, but yeah, one of
Speaker 3: those Sex and Clarkson will be moved at some point,
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: And the Jazz are definitely trying to tank away this
Speaker 1: season as well, after aj Debantsa went to BYU where
Speaker 1: like the two main guys who are funding his nil
Speaker 1: deal are Danny Ainge and Ryan Smith, who are big
Speaker 1: timers for the Utah Jazz. I think in a perfect
Speaker 1: world they would figure out a way to win the
Speaker 1: lottery and draft him number one next season. We will
Speaker 1: see if it happens.
Speaker 3: Before we get to some of our surprises and steals.
Speaker 3: I do want to mention the Memphis Grizzlies as a
Speaker 3: winner as well, getting Cedric Coward, who at six' five
Speaker 3: finally finally will give them a wing because that they've
Speaker 3: been looking. FOR i, mean he's a, Monster he's got
Speaker 3: a seven to two wings. Ban he's a, senior so he's.
Speaker 3: OLDER i think The grizzlies want experience Around morant And TRIPLE.
Speaker 3: J like they've they've moved into that era now and
Speaker 3: they just want a wing to help.
Speaker 4: Out Jalen wells can now move to the two guard.
Speaker 3: SPOT i think they're just way better defensively now With Cedric. Coward,
Speaker 3: now they gave up the number sixteen pick to get
Speaker 3: Them Cedric coward at, eleven plus they gave up a
Speaker 3: first round pick that they just got From orlando For
Speaker 3: Desmond bin in twenty twenty. Eight so it may not
Speaker 3: be a great, pick but it's the number sixteen, pick
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty eight, pick and two second round picks
Speaker 3: For Cedric. COWARD i just think he makes logical. Sense,
Speaker 3: finally for The grizzlies who've been looking for a, forward a,
Speaker 3: WING a, WING i should, say, FORE i don't know
Speaker 3: a billion.
Speaker 4: Years sounds like they've.
Speaker 1: Been looking for a wing Since Chandler. Parsons, yeah for
Speaker 1: a long long. Time so, YEAH i like that this
Speaker 1: guy was a big time combine, riser a lot of
Speaker 1: comparisons To Jalen williams and that kind of a late,
Speaker 1: bloomer and has the crazy wingspan for a strong body as.
Speaker 1: Well the fact that he's a little bit older lets
Speaker 1: me to believe that The grizzlies do want somebody who
Speaker 1: can come in and help right away after Trading Desmond,
Speaker 1: bane but likely Keeping jaw and then figuring out whatever
Speaker 1: kind of deal For Jared Jackson junior are tough for my,
Speaker 1: Guy Gigi, jackson but maybe that was just a down.
Speaker 1: Year grizzlies silver lining and he's a bench piece for.
Speaker 1: Them i'd just love to see a guy who can
Speaker 1: go From division three to THE. Nba doesn't happen all that.
Speaker 1: Often first two GUYS i think of Her Duncan robinson
Speaker 1: And Devin george way back When Cedric coward was able
Speaker 1: to do. That and then On draft night he got
Speaker 1: Called Colin. Coward so you, know ups and.
Speaker 3: Downs, YES i, Mean malika is on the mic for
Speaker 3: like three and a half hours. Straight she was killing.
Speaker 3: It she did Say Colin coward. Once you, KNOW i
Speaker 3: chuckled And, danielle WHO i was sitting, with, said what
Speaker 3: are you laughing? At AND i, Said i'm A i'm.
Speaker 1: A sports media.
Speaker 3: Geek and so to Hear Colin coward Versus Cedric coward, haha. Funny,
Speaker 3: yeah she didn't, laugh but it, was, yeah. Funny, anyways
Speaker 3: that guy as a. Senior as you, said it is
Speaker 3: interesting With Maphis grizzlies that they're not they're not trying
Speaker 3: to get super. YOUNG i think they are going to
Speaker 3: try one year here With Thomas islo Giving morant And
Speaker 3: Jared Jackson junior eight ton of. Shots but these other
Speaker 3: guys Like coward Now Jalen, wells as you Mentioned Gg, jackson,
Speaker 3: like they do have a lot of wings to help
Speaker 3: out those. Guys so that's that's the route they're, going
Speaker 3: and that sort of makes.
Speaker 1: Sense if you were A, gm would you be nervous
Speaker 1: to draft a guy whose last name is? Coward scared
Speaker 1: of the? Moment absolutely.
Speaker 3: NOT i would embrace, it AND i Think memphis, will,
Speaker 3: like you, know there'd be some people making fun of,
Speaker 3: him BUT i think that locker room is gonna they're
Speaker 3: gonna embrace.
Speaker 4: It they're gonna love it there yet right.
Speaker 1: They don't no, Smoke, yeah, Exactly No coward's. Here maybe
Speaker 1: he'll go By koward starting.
Speaker 4: Now See Cedric.
Speaker 3: Koward any, Steals, YEAH i got a Few coast lottery
Speaker 3: steals of the, draft AND i think it started with
Speaker 3: the first non lottery, pick The oka See thunder Getting
Speaker 3: Thomas sorber From georgetown at.
Speaker 1: FIFTEEN i will, say my phone and my computer keep
Speaker 1: auto correcting his last name To. Sorbet so this to
Speaker 1: me is a very sweet. Pick only nineteen Years old
Speaker 1: got a big, body long, arms plays on both ends
Speaker 1: of the. Ball okac has a championship. Team they've got
Speaker 1: an awesome. Roster it's all locked, down but eventually it's
Speaker 1: gonna get, expensive and the guys that they are gonna
Speaker 1: have to think about saying goodbye to is a guy
Speaker 1: Like Isaiah hartenstein once his deal becomes. Onerous With jadab
Speaker 1: getting paid with check getting paid, alongside say, SO i
Speaker 1: Think storber's got a little time to. Develop he'll probably
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time in THE G league early next,
Speaker 1: season get some minutes here and, there but eventually he'll
Speaker 1: be The hertenstein, REPLACEMENT i think For, okac once he's
Speaker 1: gotten his standing in THE nba and they're ready to
Speaker 1: kind of cycle through role players because the way The
Speaker 1: thunder are, built that's got how they're gonna have to do.
Speaker 1: It they're gonna pay their big, three and they are
Speaker 1: gonna probably pay him as much as they, can keep them,
Speaker 1: along keep them around for as long as they. Can
Speaker 1: but they got all these draft, picks and the theory
Speaker 1: is that they're going to hit on enough of these
Speaker 1: draft picks that they keep the role or they keep
Speaker 1: good role players a good supporting cast around their big.
Speaker 1: Three so being able to get a guy Like Thomas,
Speaker 1: sorber who all the smart draft people were, Like, oh
Speaker 1: he's going to be pretty, solid and then The thunder
Speaker 1: are the ones that draft. Him you're, like, oh he's
Speaker 1: gonna be. Good because there are certain teams that just
Speaker 1: get the prestige. Zone it's like back in the day
Speaker 1: When Kyle anderson was drafted to The. Spurs everybody's, Like,
Speaker 1: oh that's the steal of the draft right, there because
Speaker 1: he's the New. Boris do you, know some teams just
Speaker 1: get the benefit of the. Doubt AND i think this
Speaker 1: is a good move for The thunder to Get, sorber
Speaker 1: who will be like their third big man right now
Speaker 1: kind of a luxury for them to, have but in
Speaker 1: the future he could be a really important.
Speaker 3: Piece it does feel, like, yoh, okay see he has
Speaker 3: taken over for The, spurs or from The, SPURS i should,
Speaker 3: say as the team that has young guys that are.
Speaker 3: GOOD i, Mean Niko latovich didn't play a minute this
Speaker 3: year for The. Thunder he's going to be. Good they
Speaker 3: have him, after you, know a year of injury to
Speaker 3: add To, sorber who's a. Kid he's nineteen years, old
Speaker 3: so that'll take a couple of. Years but, yes it
Speaker 3: seems like the coverard is full and, okay see beyond
Speaker 3: the three guys that are super super young as as
Speaker 3: their main guys In.
Speaker 1: Jadab another THING i love was The magic Getting Jace
Speaker 1: richardson at number twenty five to mean maybe the steal
Speaker 1: of the. Draft. Interesting he's, small he's Not Jason richardson
Speaker 1: his dad as an. Athlete he's only six foot. Two
Speaker 1: but The magic or a team that can really cover for.
Speaker 1: Him they've got big wings In boncaro And Franz. Wagner
Speaker 1: Jonathan isaac is a huge dude who's a. Defender they've
Speaker 1: got a lot of centers. Around they played great. DEFENSE
Speaker 1: i think they can deal with a guy who's six
Speaker 1: foot two who still competes. Defensively he'll be Behind Jalen
Speaker 1: suggs to start the. Season Desmond bain is a starter
Speaker 1: for this team as, well so it'll probably Be richardson
Speaker 1: coming off the. BENCH i just like what he gives.
Speaker 1: Them he moves the, ball he can shoot it from,
Speaker 1: Outside he's got really good. Feel he's a defensive. COMPETITOR
Speaker 1: i think it's going to be like a challenge between
Speaker 1: him And Anthony black to see who sticks around more long.
Speaker 1: Term maybe they both. Do probably would need some more
Speaker 1: shooting From Anthony. Black BUT i think this was a
Speaker 1: good get for The magic to Get richardson so far
Speaker 1: down in the draft at twenty, five when he was
Speaker 1: a guy who at times was a top FIFTEEN k
Speaker 1: at the very. Least AND i don't, KNOW i just
Speaker 1: like betting on dads who were good in THE na as.
Speaker 1: Well their sons often turn out pretty. Solid SO i
Speaker 1: like The magic And Jase.
Speaker 3: Richardson, Yes and what they paid For Desmond bane makes
Speaker 3: them have to develop some younger, players whether it's going
Speaker 3: to Be Anthony, black who they've had there as a
Speaker 3: kid at point, guard or, yeah Mister jason taking. Over,
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm calling him mister all, right Mister. Jase he's
Speaker 3: way too young for that's a cool, nickname Mister.
Speaker 4: Jase.
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe just came naturally because it just rolls off the.
Speaker 3: Tongue feels like a cool. Nickname they need guys to
Speaker 3: develop off the, bench and they need someone now let's
Speaker 3: stick In, florida The Miami.
Speaker 1: Heat what do they do that's smart like them Getting
Speaker 1: Caspers yakkachonas at number twenty top ten pick at times
Speaker 1: during the. Cycle some teams even had him mocked at number.
Speaker 1: FIVE i remember seeing The heat really needed secondary ball
Speaker 1: handler Besides Tyler, Hero Terry rozier is not cutting. It
Speaker 1: he's a good outside, Shooter yakachonas. Is he can handle
Speaker 1: the ball in pick and. ROLLS i think he'll fit
Speaker 1: nicely in their system with a lot of dribble handoffs
Speaker 1: with Bam. Adebayo he doesn't have to be the number
Speaker 1: one guy Since hero, is But hero's definitely over text
Speaker 1: as a number one, Guy SO i think he just
Speaker 1: fits in really solid. There to, me kind of like
Speaker 1: A Goren dragic type of character who had some really
Speaker 1: good seasons playing For Eric spolstra In. Miami just creative
Speaker 1: and seems like a pro.
Speaker 3: Already, yeah the comparisons To dragic are, there and it
Speaker 3: does feel like A heat type of. Player will they
Speaker 3: have enough offense on that, team that's the. Question but
Speaker 3: will he be able to? CONTRIBUTE i think that's a fair.
Speaker 3: Question so it's a fun name to, Say oh, yeah so,
Speaker 3: many but he definitely.
Speaker 4: Feels like a guy who's ready to. Contribute it maybe.
Speaker 3: Maybe It's spurs slash thunder slash. Bias i'm showing here
Speaker 3: with The heat that we'll be able to develop him
Speaker 3: or get him. Going but if he plays like, dragish
Speaker 3: then he's gonna.
Speaker 1: Play The heat are definitely a team that gets the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt as, well, like oh they did it.
Speaker 3: Again, yeah but you're, Right Jase, Richardson and this pick
Speaker 3: here with The heat guys that were deemed way higher
Speaker 3: for a, while and so it feels like a good
Speaker 3: pick for them all.
Speaker 4: Rights moving on from guys who are teams that made good.
Speaker 4: Picks now it's the fun. Part.
Speaker 3: Surprises, yeah, yeah we didn't go, winners, losers and, steals
Speaker 3: but this one sure feels like big l for The
Speaker 3: New Orleans. Pelicans are are we conflating it with The
Speaker 3: Jordan poole move or is this just? SEPARATE i think it's.
Speaker 3: SEPARATE i think this of itself is it's.
Speaker 1: QUESTIONABLE i was not as down on The Jordan pool
Speaker 1: move as you.
Speaker 4: Were that's a percent weird.
Speaker 1: DRAFT i think for The pelicans to draft a point
Speaker 1: guard immediately after trading for a point guard In Jordan,
Speaker 1: Poole pool's got this year and next year left on his.
Speaker 1: Deal so maybe the theory for The pelicans is That
Speaker 1: fears takes over as the ball handler After pool has
Speaker 1: spent his time In New. ORLEANS i guess there's an
Speaker 1: opportunity for ball handling With pool being there and De
Speaker 1: Jon Tay murray is coming off Inn achilles. INJURY i
Speaker 1: think that's easy to forget at this. Point he got
Speaker 1: jal end Of, january so will he be up to
Speaker 1: speed at the start of the. Season is there still
Speaker 1: opportunity For fears to get on the. COURT i don't.
Speaker 1: Know he's got a great, handle he's super, quick needs
Speaker 1: to improve his. Jumper sounds Like Monte ellis to. Me
Speaker 1: but he's from The chicago, suburbs SO i got a
Speaker 1: root for this. Guy he's An illinois, boy.
Speaker 3: And he's a, great great, Name Jeremiah, fears very solid.
Speaker 3: Name but such a question as to if he can
Speaker 3: play defense along With Jordan, poole and this is.
Speaker 1: Going to be a bad defensive.
Speaker 3: Team, yeah, exactly, Exactly and it's just getting deeper and
Speaker 3: deeper and deeper when we get to their thirteen pick
Speaker 3: And Derek. Queen but just sticking with the, backcourt we
Speaker 3: all hoped here In atlanta That Jontay murray would turn
Speaker 3: around the defense. Here that didn't. Happen Johntay murray won't
Speaker 3: start the. Season even if he does on the, floor
Speaker 3: he won't start at all Healthy, Defensively he's not going
Speaker 3: to be the Old Jontay murray that we saw In San.
Speaker 3: Antonio so that's a questionable three men guard rotation. There of,
Speaker 3: course they've got others In Jose alvarado still there to
Speaker 3: make it. Happen they've got others to cover for them
Speaker 3: In Herb jonesy And Trey. Murphy but that's not even
Speaker 3: the weird pick for The.
Speaker 1: Pelicans, no The Derek. Queen the weird part Is Derek.
Speaker 1: QUEEN i wanted The bulls to take him at. TWELVE
Speaker 1: i think he's a talented. GUY i like the style
Speaker 1: of basketball he. Plays i'm a sucker for big men
Speaker 1: who have, skills even if they're giving it back, defensively
Speaker 1: because the guy's not a super, athlete not great size
Speaker 1: as a rim protect. PROTECTOR i also would have liked
Speaker 1: The bulls to accept This pells, trade WHICH i assumed
Speaker 1: had to be there For chicago at. Twelve if it was,
Speaker 1: there For atlanta as. Well but the fact That New
Speaker 1: orleans traded twenty three in this, draft which ended up
Speaker 1: being nouel to The. Hawks throwing in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: six unprotected first after a twenty one win. Season when
Speaker 1: you've got one of the most unreliable superstars In Zion
Speaker 1: williamson leading your. Team this seems crazy and way too
Speaker 1: much confidence put Into zion's health By Joe dumars And
Speaker 1: Troy weaver down in The. Pelicans, like the trade probably
Speaker 1: would have been fine if they put any protections on. It,
Speaker 1: like The hawks probably would still do this trade If
Speaker 1: New orleans is, like this is a top four protected
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six pick that's coming to, them right, RIGHT
Speaker 1: i think The hawks still say yes to, that but
Speaker 1: instead completely, unprotected which is just so much downside For New.
Speaker 3: Orleans, Yeah, So Derek, queen with the connections To, maryland
Speaker 3: it sure feels Like Troy weaver coming in and doing
Speaker 3: something THAT i would, do Oh.
Speaker 1: TORONTO i like.
Speaker 3: That you, know he's got ties To, maryland ties to
Speaker 3: The washington, area and and so there's that. Part you
Speaker 3: give up a twenty three, pick and as you, said next,
Speaker 3: year what could be the more favorable the better Of
Speaker 3: milwaukee or themselves of their own pick In New. Orleans
Speaker 3: doesn't seem all that good for a guy who ain't
Speaker 3: a great defender to be Beside. Zion he's not an
Speaker 3: incredible shooter to be Beside. Zion and that's that's the.
Speaker 3: Weird it's weird next those. Two, yeah and then along
Speaker 3: with The Jordan poole backcourt along With Jeremiah, fears there
Speaker 3: ain't no. Defense it just doesn't seem like they know
Speaker 3: exactly what they're doing, there but they're going for it right,
Speaker 3: here right, now so you, can you, know you can
Speaker 3: say that LIKE i was saying that about even The
Speaker 3: memphis Christ, is like they are trying to get players
Speaker 3: who can play right, here right now or Alongside, Zion
Speaker 3: but there's so much going on on the court and
Speaker 3: off the court With zion, there so there's just so many. Questions,
Speaker 3: YEAH i can't get super excited for What dumars And
Speaker 3: Troy weaver have done to start there the.
Speaker 1: Regime, yeah the early days Of Joe dumar's tenure In
Speaker 1: detroit were awesome when he built the championship. Team this
Speaker 1: is more like the latter years Of Joe dumar's tenure In,
Speaker 1: detroit where it doesn't seem like they have a plan
Speaker 1: and they're just acquiring, players even if there's a lot of.
Speaker 1: Overlap the only like upside to me is that now
Speaker 1: people are looking at The pelicans' front office more than
Speaker 1: they're looking at The bulls front office right. Now because
Speaker 1: this was they seem to be the biggest head scratcher
Speaker 1: of the entire, draft though maybe our next surprise as.
Speaker 1: Well The Brooklyn nets are up. THERE i think this
Speaker 1: was such a surprise that they actually used all five
Speaker 1: of their draft picks in the first. Round they had
Speaker 1: won sixth of the first round draft. Picks last, NIGHT
Speaker 1: i was split in time between like The Kendrick PERKINS
Speaker 1: espn OR abc broadcast and THE espn Two Bob meyer STEVEN.
Speaker 1: A smith, broadcast AND i THINK i WAS i was
Speaker 1: more In myers mode at this, point and they just
Speaker 1: couldn't Bel they're, like there's, surely surely The nets aren't
Speaker 1: going to use all five of, these and they use
Speaker 1: three of. Them they're, like surely they're not going to
Speaker 1: use the next. Two but they used all five of,
Speaker 1: them and who they drafted was basically the same player
Speaker 1: five times. Over at number eight they take they Take Jegor,
Speaker 1: demon The Eager, demon which was the first reach of the.
Speaker 1: Draft the first, time people were, like what this guy
Speaker 1: went number, eight The Russian Josh, giddy big tall point
Speaker 1: guard who doesn't really shoot the ball that well but
Speaker 1: passes it. Beautifully not a great off the dribble, player
Speaker 1: but can play in the pick and. Roll he was
Speaker 1: a guy that was a top five potential pick at
Speaker 1: times during the, season but then nobody trusted his, shot
Speaker 1: so that was seemed like a reach For. Brooklyn then
Speaker 1: at number, nineteen they Take Nolan, trior another point, guard
Speaker 1: surprising when they just drafted a point guard eleven picks
Speaker 1: prior twenty two the trade with The. Hawks they Get Drake,
Speaker 1: powell who is not a point. Guard gotta like. That
Speaker 1: people say he's the best wings stopper in this. DRAFT
Speaker 1: i think that's a valuable piece For brooklyn to pick.
Speaker 1: Up but then things went weird. Again number twenty, six
Speaker 1: they Take Ben, saraff another point guard who was called
Speaker 1: The Israeli DiAngelo russell on the draft last. Night what
Speaker 1: The israeli Di'angelo? Russell you, know like a bigger guard
Speaker 1: who plays from the outside looks to score. FIRST i
Speaker 1: have never even considered a phrase like that in my. Way,
Speaker 1: NO i Agree israeli D'Angelo. Russell but they had one more,
Speaker 1: pick number twenty. Seven they Drafted Danny, wolf who was
Speaker 1: a seven foot tall point. Guard interesting skill, set like
Speaker 1: the guy is one of the most freakish players to
Speaker 1: watch his highlight package to see a guy that big and,
Speaker 1: tall but also like bulky handling the ball and making
Speaker 1: plays from the. Perimeter but it felt like The nets
Speaker 1: basically drafted four point guards that are, like we'll see
Speaker 1: if any of them are, good and if one of them,
Speaker 1: IS i guess we did our job this draft that was,
Speaker 1: very very. STRANGE i think this team is my early
Speaker 1: leader for worst team in the league, status WHICH i
Speaker 1: kind of think is the. Point?
Speaker 3: Sure is it them just drafting guys and then hoping
Speaker 3: that someone will offer them something decent in the days to,
Speaker 3: come BECAUSE i, imagine Like Bobby marx was thinking And Bob
Speaker 3: myers was thinking that if there's a good deal for
Speaker 3: one of these, picks that they would make. It because
Speaker 3: you're not going to play five. ROOKIES i, Suppose I'M
Speaker 3: i know that's who the roster currently.
Speaker 1: IS i mean it.
Speaker 3: Is It's Nick, Claxon Cameron, Johnson Noah clowney three. Quitehead
Speaker 3: those are the guaranteed contracts for next. Year, yeah plus five.
Speaker 3: Rookies so, yeah it doesn't it doesn't make.
Speaker 1: Sense but they did the deal with The rockets last
Speaker 1: year so that they could get control of their drafts,
Speaker 1: back and basically they have this year's draft and next
Speaker 1: year's draft before they start owing picks again in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Seven so it makes sense for The nets to be
Speaker 1: bad next, season and it appears they're going to be
Speaker 1: quite bad next.
Speaker 3: Season let's get to another, surprise which was, very very
Speaker 3: very rising at number, sixteen The blazers Drafting Hanson yang
Speaker 3: and to see him come up from the bleachers because
Speaker 3: he wasn't ready to be picked until, whenever extremely late
Speaker 3: in the first.
Speaker 4: Round he didn't even know.
Speaker 3: If he was gonna get picked this night On wednesday,
Speaker 3: night it could have been On thursday in round number.
Speaker 3: Two but he's sitting up. There the jacket blazer is not.
Speaker 3: Buttoned you see him get up and he's trying to
Speaker 3: button that thing forever as he walks down to accept
Speaker 3: him at number sixteen to The Portland Trail. Blazers and
Speaker 3: here a couple of his. Quotes he, said at the
Speaker 3: end of the, day this was beyond my wildest, imagination
Speaker 3: even though The blazers did work him out a month,
Speaker 3: ago and he, said it was just a big. Surprise
Speaker 3: so he's going To, portland, yep Where DeAndre ayton is
Speaker 3: still there And Robert williams is still there, ye And
Speaker 3: Don Van klingon is still. There that being, Said ayton
Speaker 3: And williams only have another year, guaranteed And hanson's going
Speaker 3: to Be Hanson yang is going to be a long term.
Speaker 3: Plan he's not going to come out and do wonderful
Speaker 3: things this. Year so it's okay That eighting And williams are.
Speaker 3: THERE i think that's totally fine trade.
Speaker 1: Bait, Yeah, like, honestly The pelicans need to be on
Speaker 1: the phone with The blazers. Today Freight williams one of their. Centers,
Speaker 1: yeah it's like there's a million guards In New orleans
Speaker 1: and there's a million centers In. Portland something needs to
Speaker 1: happen here where in exchange. Personnel but, uh, yeah the Young,
Speaker 1: Hanson Hanson, YOUNG i don't know what it's going to
Speaker 1: say on the back of his. JERSEY i guess we will. See,
Speaker 1: YEAH i love the comps immediately Like chinese. Yokic he
Speaker 1: even wears number. Fifteen he can handle the ball a little.
Speaker 1: Bit but uh, yeah this guy seems to be so.
Speaker 1: Green he's so green that when he came To Adam,
Speaker 1: silver he shook his hand like a, gentleman like what
Speaker 1: do you mean hand to, hand like like a like
Speaker 1: a normal handshake like, this or like rather than like,
Speaker 1: yeah broing down like a Like Adam silver went for
Speaker 1: the thing and they's, like, nope, nope nice to meet, you.
Speaker 1: Sir that's how green this guy. Is Jason quick reported
Speaker 1: At The athletic that his hat didn't fit properly because
Speaker 1: he didn't get measured for his cap like the other
Speaker 1: top prospects, did WHICH i didn't even know was a.
Speaker 1: Thing hat measurements for the green room, guys but not
Speaker 1: for the in the crowd. Guys everybody had him mocked
Speaker 1: as like a mid to late second. Rounder Mike schmiz
Speaker 1: used to be a draft. Express he's one of the
Speaker 1: draft gurus for The Portland Trail, blazers and it's not
Speaker 1: uncommon for him to just identify a guy he likes
Speaker 1: and The blazers make a move to get. Him it
Speaker 1: was definitely surprising that this was who they went. AFTER
Speaker 1: I LIKE i, SAID i was Watching STEVEN a And
Speaker 1: Bob myers at this point and they had no clue
Speaker 1: who he, was and they just kept calling him this,
Speaker 1: player so we'll see what he. Does BUT i love
Speaker 1: a guy coming out of the stands very, Cool it's very.
Speaker 3: Funny you could see his hat wasn't ready to be
Speaker 3: put on his head because Even Adam silver had this say,
Speaker 3: here this is what you, do and literally helped them
Speaker 3: unlock the, plastic you, know just to just put the
Speaker 3: plastic back on.
Speaker 4: It, now that was not sized nothing.
Speaker 3: READY i guess it does make sense that they all
Speaker 3: size them so they're not just sitting on the top
Speaker 3: of their, head you, know and it's not yet close
Speaker 3: to a.
Speaker 1: Size AND i, MEAN i, GUESS i guess just in,
Speaker 1: general they probably ordered the biggest hats possible because these
Speaker 1: are big, guys got big. Heads, yeah a lot of
Speaker 1: long hair now at this. Point but, YEAH i didn't
Speaker 1: know that that was such a benefit to get the
Speaker 1: properly sized. Hat when you are a draft, prospect what
Speaker 1: do you think of The draft hats by the, way
Speaker 1: kind of they're like they're. White they got a little
Speaker 1: like a tallness to, them team color, bill pretty pretty standard.
Speaker 1: Hats it looked like pretty.
Speaker 3: Standard i'm okay with standard for the, draft like fairly.
Speaker 3: STANDARD i MEAN i did like how was a little bit.
Speaker 3: Bigger that's the way things are. GOING i don't need
Speaker 3: Any dad. Hats you don't need them to he's. Small,
Speaker 3: YEAH i think it goes. Fine, yeah when you said,
Speaker 3: it it didn't really resonate with me BECAUSE i didn't
Speaker 3: think anything of. THEM i guess kind of like not super. Memorable,
Speaker 3: yeah it's not quite like The thunder accepting their championship.
Speaker 3: Hats and Like Jalen williams going On instagram after, saying
Speaker 3: what was, this nobody gave a, shot nobody tried anything.
Speaker 3: Like it didn't didn't register with me like. That it
Speaker 3: just they're just. Hats but there was somebody who also
Speaker 3: had a hat on top of their.
Speaker 4: Head this is a bit of A segway stretch.
Speaker 3: Here but but let's get into The Toronto raptors Selecting
Speaker 3: Calin Murray, boyles and the question, is Does Colin Murray
Speaker 3: boyles want to play for The Toronto raptors because after
Speaker 3: he got, up we got the clip for you here on.
Speaker 3: YouTube it took him a. While he's, deliberating no shaking
Speaker 3: out of the head and a fuck funniest reaction of the.
Speaker 1: Night for.
Speaker 3: Sure it's clear there that he's feeling so some kind of,
Speaker 3: way and it looks like he's feeling.
Speaker 1: Upset BUT i GOTTA i gotta go.
Speaker 3: To the opposite direction, immediately with the opposite opposite. Field
Speaker 3: he wants to be, THERE i think after listening to
Speaker 3: him do his interviews ON NBA, Tv Taylor rooks like
Speaker 3: he's an incredible defender and he wants to work, hard
Speaker 3: and it didn't resonate to me that he wants to
Speaker 3: leave after the. Interview, also Maybe i'm bringing something into,
Speaker 3: this but his girlfriend at the, table who, immediately like
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes, later was caught on camera, saying
Speaker 3: oh my, god while wearing The Toronto raptors.
Speaker 4: HAT i, Thought, okay nobody wants to be.
Speaker 3: There but then you saw the far shot of the,
Speaker 3: table like twenty minutes, later she's still wearing the. Hat,
Speaker 3: yeah great sign that she's still dedicated to The Toronto.
Speaker 3: Raptors you know you THINK i already here OR jd
Speaker 3: already hear?
Speaker 1: You is he gonna leave? You guy hasn't even gotten
Speaker 1: The toronto. Yet, YEAH i. Know but did he want
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 4: There it was the question no obviously not, No. NO i.
Speaker 3: Know he went on THAT NBA tv interview and he basically,
Speaker 3: SAID i just said it because this has been this
Speaker 3: was the moment of my, life my experience. Here and
Speaker 3: so he AS i, said, like he took a few,
Speaker 3: seconds he's thinking to himself and then he then he
Speaker 3: dropped a fuck AND i THINK i, THINK i think
Speaker 3: he's saying to, himself this is. IT i did, It
Speaker 3: and so it's more like a soaking it all in
Speaker 3: rather THAN i don't want to be. There because he,
Speaker 3: talked he spoke great things About toronto in that. Interview
Speaker 3: he already planned out what he's going to do On
Speaker 3: instagram that he's gonna put His drake song in there
Speaker 3: and he's gonna tag him And i'm going to tag.
Speaker 3: Him so he, knows, like you wouldn't say that if
Speaker 3: he didn't want to be. THERE i don't. THINK i,
Speaker 3: MEAN i guess, YEAH i.
Speaker 5: Mean that's the one perk you're gonna Meet drake that's.
Speaker 5: It what about the city Of, Toronto, WELL i Obviously
Speaker 5: i'm offended that it feels like he doesn't want to go,
Speaker 5: there BUT i mean that is a, perk, right and
Speaker 5: from his, perspective that's the, perk the one.
Speaker 4: Thing, yes, yeah he.
Speaker 1: Just needs to get to the city in time for,
Speaker 1: Caravana like you'll have a great To, yeah just like.
Speaker 5: That you, know that's what we like to tell. Ourselves
Speaker 5: once he's, there he's gonna love. It he's gonna love
Speaker 5: paying you, know all the taxes and the funny money
Speaker 5: and all.
Speaker 1: That the crowd's.
Speaker 5: GREAT i, mean, yeah.
Speaker 4: But you're just you're just sold by the Initial.
Speaker 1: He, didn't he didn't see, it so he. Did he
Speaker 1: did try to cover, afterwards saying he's just, overwhelmed you,
Speaker 1: know by the way the process turned. Out but that
Speaker 1: was a, hilarious a hilarious. Scene oh that does not
Speaker 1: look good. Else Be side definitely has a. Type he's,
Speaker 1: like is there a guy that is do it all
Speaker 1: kind of forward with long, arms who plays defense and
Speaker 1: needs a little bit of improvement on the offensive. End
Speaker 1: is this guy Worse Scottie barnes or is he a
Speaker 1: Better Jonathan MOBO i don't know what it, is But
Speaker 1: maside definitely likes. Guys he's going to be compared to
Speaker 1: Common malawatch for quite some, TIME i think because that
Speaker 1: was another guy that The raptors were potentially going to
Speaker 1: be able to. Draft they Take Colin Murray boyles at
Speaker 1: number nine instead Of, maliawatch who went number ten to The.
Speaker 1: SUNS i Know skeets was big On malawatch for The,
Speaker 1: Raps so, yeah that'll be an interesting comparison going forward
Speaker 1: the nine to ten. Picks there two different ways you
Speaker 1: can go with a big man defender. POSITION i.
Speaker 3: Guess, yeah it is interesting that you wouldn't See messiah's,
Speaker 3: year even though he does have a type go With
Speaker 3: malawatch and go a little bit smaller with another forward
Speaker 3: that people are already comparing To Scottie. Barnes and maybe
Speaker 3: he doesn't shoot enough Like Scottie, barnes although he has
Speaker 3: been working on his three point shot and he said
Speaker 3: it is a three pointer league and so he has
Speaker 3: been getting better at. That does he want to be?
Speaker 3: THERE i don't, know BUT i you, know Maybe i'm
Speaker 3: trying to read everything into To chloe his girlfriend keep
Speaker 3: the hat, ON i would, SAY i would think she
Speaker 3: would drop it if she doesn't want to be there
Speaker 3: with her. BOYFRIEND i don't know if if she is
Speaker 3: coming up To, toronto BUT i do think He's he's
Speaker 3: a dedicated.
Speaker 4: Defender there's no.
Speaker 3: Doubt he spent his interview, SAYING i watch guys Like Traymond.
Speaker 3: Green his switch ability is. Amazing he got into young
Speaker 3: guys Like Timani. Kamara, hey, yeah maybe, yeah you're Referencing Tomani.
Speaker 3: Kamara maybe he didn't pronounce his name incredibly, correct but
Speaker 3: it doesn't. Matter he Said Aaron gordon how physical he
Speaker 3: was in the. PLAYOFFS i thought that was. Important so
Speaker 3: he's going to be a good. Player whether or not
Speaker 3: he wants to do it In, TORONTO i don't. Know but,
Speaker 3: yeah it is odd that they wouldn't go get a
Speaker 3: center and just say.
Speaker 4: We've got so many.
Speaker 1: GUYS i got a lot of. Forwards, YEAH i got
Speaker 1: a lot of three four. Types yeah sure In. Toronto
Speaker 1: so they're Little Jaka purdle obviously their. Center you could
Speaker 1: see some small ball center being played By Colin Murray.
Speaker 1: Boyles he's tiny, ish you, know it's it's six, seven
Speaker 1: but he is. Strong you Mentioned Jonathan mobo looks like
Speaker 1: they will be going, smaller which is a thing that's
Speaker 1: happening in the.
Speaker 4: League so we shall see how he. Works but it
Speaker 4: seems like they've got a lot of freaking.
Speaker 3: Talent Maybe i'm just optimistic after the, draft but hopefully
Speaker 3: he wants to.
Speaker 1: Be there Getting Brandon ingram, Too Like Brandon ingram's going
Speaker 1: to play for this. Team so that was a surprise
Speaker 1: to me That Colin Murray boyles was the, pick BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i Thought malawatch was somebody they would be after or
Speaker 1: after hearing his pre draft, INTERVIEWS i Thought Noah essingay
Speaker 1: was perhaps going to be A raptor because he was
Speaker 1: like the GUYS i like to watch Are Pascal, Siakam Scottie,
Speaker 1: barnes And Kawhi leonard was, like those are All raptors.
Speaker 1: Players he's, tall he's got, young long, arms he's. Young
Speaker 1: that also seems like A messide type to, me but
Speaker 1: ends up going to The bulls at number. Twelve it's
Speaker 1: weird when your team drafts the mystery man because it's,
Speaker 1: like are we getting the Next giannis or are we
Speaker 1: getting the Next. POKU i was not super inspired By
Speaker 1: noah As sene's. Highlights no watching him, THROUGH i was,
Speaker 1: like all he does is. Dunk all he does is.
Speaker 1: Dunk all he does is. Dunk all he does is.
Speaker 1: Dunk but he fits the up tempo style they. PLAY
Speaker 1: i think it's going to be a cool pairing With Matus.
Speaker 1: Buzzellis at the very, least they like to run and
Speaker 1: gun With Josh getty leading the, brake so that will
Speaker 1: definitely fit What essingay. BRINGS i was HAPPY i got
Speaker 1: to get My joe A Keem noah jersey out of.
Speaker 1: Storage you, know The bulls are getting A noah. AGAIN
Speaker 1: i Love Michael jordan wearing a, beret SO i like
Speaker 1: all these parts of. It but also it looks like
Speaker 1: he has zero. Skill it looks like he can't handle
Speaker 1: the ball or shoot the. Ball passing may come, around
Speaker 1: and he's the guy who was getting dragged before the
Speaker 1: draft because he left his pro team In germany during
Speaker 1: the finals to come Shake Adam silver's. Hand it just
Speaker 1: feels like a lot of bust potential and The bulls
Speaker 1: just keep finding the absolute skinniest possible guy and drafting
Speaker 1: him like they a guy that weighs over two hundred.
Speaker 1: Pounds in a. Decade it feels.
Speaker 3: Like Noe senga is, Small he's not gonna be good
Speaker 3: right off the bat in, man super. Skinny, YEAH i
Speaker 3: can go both. Ways because he's in The German. League
Speaker 3: their team is up two to one in the finals
Speaker 3: and it's a five game, series so they got to
Speaker 3: win one more and he's just, Like i'm out of here.
Speaker 3: Now you could, say, man he's, done he wants to.
Speaker 1: Go to THE.
Speaker 3: Nba he's ready to go to THE, nba is ready
Speaker 3: to get. Better maybe doesn't want to get injured in
Speaker 3: The German.
Speaker 1: League that's.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah so you could look at it that.
Speaker 1: Way it happens in THE nfl all the. Time guys
Speaker 1: skip college bowl games because they know they're going to get.
Speaker 4: Drafted, yeah great.
Speaker 1: Point The boomers don't like that.
Speaker 4: Either Noah sanga is.
Speaker 3: Ready, yeah we didn't even mention that you're wearing The
Speaker 3: Jokim noah jersey guns out here for the.
Speaker 4: Summer let's.
Speaker 1: Go they better not give him. Thirteenth they. Didn't they
Speaker 1: gave him number twenty, four which was A Tyros thomas's,
Speaker 1: number And lowry markin is number In. Chicago two guys
Speaker 1: who just worked out perfectly for The bulls draft, wise.
Speaker 3: Oh he knows he can be better Than Larry mark
Speaker 3: And Tyrus. Thomas all, right moving on to the random.
Speaker 3: Notes just everything that we saw that you want to
Speaker 3: point out. At we'll finish off with that in the,
Speaker 3: draft from the draft picks to off the stage as,
Speaker 3: well we got to start With.
Speaker 1: Yeah this was to me was the first guaranteed random
Speaker 1: note of the. Night When Conk nipple did his post
Speaker 1: draft interview with his four, Brothers, Kinston, Kajer, cash And,
Speaker 1: kidman all wearing matching suits and arranged by height as
Speaker 1: if this were a more bars In More places. Commercial
Speaker 1: this is very cute as long as their middle names Aren't, Kevin, Carl, Kip,
Speaker 1: chris And. Kelly. Yeah they also Showed Conk nipple's dad's
Speaker 1: three on three. Highlights this was like the craziest package
Speaker 1: of stuff to show after nipples. Draft AND i like
Speaker 1: his fit with The hornets with Uh, LaMelo assuming he's
Speaker 1: still going to be Around Brandon, miller assuming he can get,
Speaker 1: healthy they should be awesome on. OFFENSE i like that
Speaker 1: he said he Watches Klay thompson And Jimmy butler. Tape
Speaker 1: if you're a good catch and shoot player and a stronger.
Speaker 1: GUARD i think it means he really knows himself and
Speaker 1: is playing the right. Way but a potential worst defense
Speaker 1: in the league. CONTENDER i do have to think the
Speaker 1: only center they have on the roster right now Is
Speaker 1: Nick richard or is a use Of. Nurkic but, yeah
Speaker 1: the Can Nipple brothers were killing me last. Night.
Speaker 3: Yeah the tape that they show after the number four
Speaker 3: pick to show picks.
Speaker 1: Of all the dads playing.
Speaker 4: Balls.
Speaker 3: Surprising usually they save that tape FOR i don't, know
Speaker 3: the twenty eighth pick or.
Speaker 1: Something Flying Nipple. Brothers, yes very, funny.
Speaker 3: Awesome, yeah and even J bill is saying it's more
Speaker 3: like The Let It Fly. Brothers you, know they're not,
Speaker 3: jumping they're just. Shooting but he does look like he's
Speaker 3: going to be a good ad for The Charlotte. Hornets
Speaker 3: whether he's gonna, FIT i don't know for. Sure but
Speaker 3: he can. Shoot he gets after. It the highlights showed
Speaker 3: his face very flush and red because he gets after.
Speaker 1: It he doesn't work get very. Red, yes he sure sure. Does,
Speaker 1: also a guy who had a very red face last
Speaker 1: night Was Danny wolfe's, brother who to me took home
Speaker 1: cry of The night's. Status there's a lot of emotion
Speaker 1: in the, crowd as there always is in these, drafts
Speaker 1: And Danny wolfe's brother obviously very proud of, him but
Speaker 1: they did him dirty by lingering on this shot for ten. Seconds,
Speaker 1: man they were really Letting danny's brother, cry let him, cry.
Speaker 4: And it's a sad cry. Too i'm super sad.
Speaker 3: CRY i mean he is letting it out and, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah found it.
Speaker 5: Out gonna miss, you, Bro, yeah, yeah he's going To.
Speaker 3: Boston it's not. Far, No Danny wolfe's playing In. Brooklyn oh,
Speaker 3: yeah Did danny my? Bad it's also not.
Speaker 4: Far It's.
Speaker 3: Brooklyn moving on to the fashion of it, ALL i
Speaker 3: gotta do. That let's get a look at the. SHORTS
Speaker 3: i was surprised to see shorts period and to See
Speaker 3: Jay billis on the call with another AC dc. REFERENCE i, mean,
Speaker 3: yeah we've heard AC dc so much in the playoffs
Speaker 3: because we've seen THAT okc commercial and to hear J billis,
Speaker 3: say you, know he looks like business up, top but
Speaker 3: then he looks like he's an AC dc drummer or from, Guitars,
Speaker 3: yeah the guitars from the short or from the waist
Speaker 3: down the. Shorts, yeah it's a good fit. THOUGH i
Speaker 3: mean it's a good. Call he definitely.
Speaker 1: Does, yeah this was my favorite look at the. NIGHT
Speaker 1: i think he looks great, actually but hard to call those.
Speaker 1: Shorts those are, lungs they're. Big, yeah scrunchy socks. THOUGH
Speaker 1: i love. That and, yeah he definitely has an angus
Speaker 1: young sort of quality to, him especially with the double
Speaker 1: breasted up. TOP i thought looked.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah uh, Yeah i'm okay with. It the only,
Speaker 3: SHORTS i would.
Speaker 1: Say the only, shorts at least the only shorts they showed.
Speaker 1: Us but, YEAH i thought it was funny the way
Speaker 1: it all played, out because you, know they had a
Speaker 1: kind of tighter shot on him at, first but then
Speaker 1: as soon as they started talking about him wearing shorts
Speaker 1: on the, broadcast they had to pull.
Speaker 4: Back but there go.
Speaker 1: Like so many lower thirds at the bottom because it's
Speaker 1: like best available up next team needs all this. Stuff
Speaker 1: they're really trying to jam it in. There but luckily
Speaker 1: we got a look at those.
Speaker 4: Shins, yeah and we didn't even mention. It it Is Trey.
Speaker 3: Johnson we just figure everybody would know Who Trey johnson.
Speaker 3: Is are moving on to uh.
Speaker 1: Another like a musically themed look like that one is
Speaker 1: definitely AC Dc Carter bryant with the chest out and
Speaker 1: the chain. On this is more of a NINETIES r
Speaker 1: AND b look For Carter. Bryant we've seen some chest
Speaker 1: out guys in the, Past Jalen. GREEN i think maybe
Speaker 1: it was a chest out, Guy but as far AS
Speaker 1: i can, Remember Carter brian is the only. Guy and,
Speaker 1: look he's still got some growing to. DO i see
Speaker 1: no chest. Hair, yeah but that might be part of the.
Speaker 1: Look you think he? Shaved, yeah, Okay WELL i don't
Speaker 1: know why. NOT i, mean maybe it's part of your
Speaker 1: pre draft. Grooming you all look. Good, Yeah and if
Speaker 1: you're going chest, OUT i think you probably you're getting
Speaker 1: rid of that.
Speaker 3: Here, yeah, yeah, YEAH i appreciate the, effort you, know
Speaker 3: take some guts to pull it all.
Speaker 1: Out would, you, okay if you were drafted into THE,
Speaker 1: nba if you were going to the, draft would you
Speaker 1: wear like a more conservative suit like A Cooper flag
Speaker 1: had a pretty straightforward, suit you know most of these guys.
Speaker 1: Did there was a lot of sequin. Looks or would
Speaker 1: you go for something more like shorts or a chest
Speaker 1: out sort of.
Speaker 3: Deal, yeah that's a great question, Me now WHO i.
Speaker 3: Am i'd be, BORING i would, say but IF i
Speaker 3: was a kid who's playing ball and is getting, drafted you,
Speaker 3: know top top, ten that's my. JOB i, Think, YEAH
Speaker 3: i might be bold and pull out the CHEST i
Speaker 3: think is uh is? Bold yeah, yeah so, yeah right right,
Speaker 3: here right, Now i'd be super, BORING i. ASSUME i,
Speaker 3: mean it would just be the.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're, fortal it's a lot different than when you're
Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty skinny. TIE i THINK i would be
Speaker 1: more likely to go shorts than chest.
Speaker 5: OUT i don't hundred, yeah it's a heat wave right now.
Speaker 3: And definitely definitely so yeah so, shorts but you're pretty, Both, no,
Speaker 3: YEAH i.
Speaker 5: WOULD i would sort of set the tone to be
Speaker 5: A Steven adams type, character you, know LIKE i want
Speaker 5: them to think That i'm, like you, know you, know
Speaker 5: a bad guy sort of. THING i want to come
Speaker 5: into the league as a. Heel so you, Know i'm
Speaker 5: wearing My Iron maiden shirt under my.
Speaker 3: Blazer very, Cool, YEAH i Get and and, yeah you
Speaker 3: may not look as tough if you don't have a
Speaker 3: really developed.
Speaker 4: Chest it's a Nee clifford isn't the most, developed.
Speaker 3: Not big not, huge not pack, forward but pack. Forward
Speaker 3: but that's what THE nba players are doing. Now you
Speaker 3: see guys celebrating the. Championships sometimes they're not. Big you
Speaker 3: don't have To they're not Like i'm pumping chest. Anymore,
Speaker 3: YEAH i, Mean Chet holmgren just wanted, championship got less
Speaker 3: chest than.
Speaker 1: Anybody another eye catching fit last NIGHT i thought Was
Speaker 1: Nie clifford wearing the purple to pink sort of gradient
Speaker 1: jacket had matching air forced ones as, Well and THEN
Speaker 1: i like the touch he put for his lining on
Speaker 1: the inside of his Jacket clifford The Big Red dog
Speaker 1: amongst his college. Logos is he gonna go buy the
Speaker 1: Big Red? Dog or are they gonna call Him clifford
Speaker 1: the normal sized? Dog to throw it back to our
Speaker 1: starters trivia, days most of the time you don't even
Speaker 1: get a look at these. LININGS i Remember Kevin knox
Speaker 1: had A fortnite jacket once that was pretty, Funny but
Speaker 1: The clifford The Big Red dog inclusion was killing.
Speaker 4: Me very.
Speaker 3: Funny, yeah you don't see the whole inside of the jacket. Ever,
Speaker 3: Really i'm taking it off like this. Out, YEAH i love.
Speaker 4: IT i love.
Speaker 3: It that's WHY i THINK i Called Carter bryant Nee,
Speaker 3: clifford because this one stands out to me.
Speaker 4: Solid oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah when he came, UP i was, like, ooh that
Speaker 1: looks nice popping on.
Speaker 4: Stage great, colors great, colors.
Speaker 1: And he's sacked, MENO i, think, Right Nick, Clifford, yeah
Speaker 1: seems to be a helpful. Guy like he's an older
Speaker 1: player as, well can play some defense and do kind
Speaker 1: of do it. All SO i think that's going to
Speaker 1: be helpful for, Him like he seems like he'll probably
Speaker 1: be in the, rotation whereas some of these younger, dudes you,
Speaker 1: know like nineteen's or more of a question mark for
Speaker 1: their rookie. Season i'm Sure sacramento is thinking we need
Speaker 1: to get somebody who can play, immediately.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah he looks like he's ready to, go and
Speaker 3: so are we out of this?
Speaker 1: Show nice, One it is.
Speaker 3: Time just a quick reminder before we go that we
Speaker 3: got a show coming up In Las. Vegas will be
Speaker 3: there Live, Friday july eleventh at four pm at The
Speaker 3: sportsbook At Mandalay. Bay it's, free it's.
Speaker 1: Fun and it Is.
Speaker 3: Vegas so come on by four o'clock let me talking
Speaker 3: about These we will be we'll be seeing.
Speaker 1: Them let me talking About Conka nipple's. Debut they're starting
Speaker 1: a day.
Speaker 4: Earlier and do you believe.
Speaker 1: On thursday instead of Just.
Speaker 3: Friday, yeah, yeah, yes we have already seen a lot
Speaker 3: of them, play probably everybody play essentially On thursday to
Speaker 3: talk about we will be back tomorrow where we want
Speaker 3: to talk about some of the news that's already, happened
Speaker 3: even that we kept for, tomorrow Like Kyrie irving signing an,
Speaker 3: Extension D'Angelo russell we talked about earlier, today maybe in
Speaker 3: line For Dallas mavericks backcourt, spot Maybe Fred Van vliet's.
Speaker 3: Contract will get to all that On, friday plus everything
Speaker 3: that happens today here as we, record all the front
Speaker 3: offices are. Meeting they're talking day number. Two let's get
Speaker 3: some deals. Going that's an early draft for second. Round
Speaker 3: like it's not at, night, RIGHT i don't know what
Speaker 3: time it. IS i just need to get that down
Speaker 3: from my own. Notes it's an early. One to make
Speaker 3: sure it's like a three o'clock or something they're. Doing,
Speaker 3: REALLY i think so four. O'CLOCK i THINK i think
Speaker 3: it was last. Year we'll find out and we'll be. Watching,
Speaker 3: no that's at eight.
Speaker 4: Pm i'm.
Speaker 1: DUMB i mean that makes, sense, yeah because you want everybody. Watching, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah but that's not THE Nba cup quarter. Finals they're
Speaker 1: not putting it on at four.
Speaker 3: O'clock, yeah but they. Should whether or not they put
Speaker 3: it on or, not they should make it an. Edit
Speaker 3: it's like it's like The, olympics like just cut all
Speaker 3: the good moments. Together we don't need to see three
Speaker 3: hours of. It but they probably make it shorter as.
Speaker 3: Well they don't have five minutes in between. Picks that's,
Speaker 3: right it's like two minutes in between.
Speaker 4: Picks. Quick, anyways just some, thoughts kind of.
Speaker 3: Shorter all, right we'll be back, tomorrow but for, Now clipper,
Speaker 3: bros you heard it here.
Speaker 1: First have a great, time turn. Up love you, guys,
Speaker 1: awesome thanks for joining, us and remember your favorite team
Speaker 1: definitely drafted the right player. Obviously, yeah gonna be a,
Speaker 1: hit not a.
Speaker 4: Bust, yeah and.
Speaker 3: They'll make great picks in round number, two which we'll
Speaker 3: talk about. Tomorrow we'll see you, then