WEBVTT - THE IDENTITY CRISIS

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, listen to this. Charlie twenty years old from North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina listened to this. This is a poetic Charlie twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years old from North Carolina is known as the Hawaiian

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<v Speaker 1>shirt guy, but feels like he is more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that not the greatest premise of a phone call

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<v Speaker 1>on this show that you have ever heard. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how the phone call is gonna go, but the premise.

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<v Speaker 2>GEX Hello, hey, GEX, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing okay, I'm hanging out, I'm being a get go,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to people on the phone. What's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's the summertime, and in the summertime, I

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<v Speaker 2>like to wear Hawaiian shirts. Well, actually I like to

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<v Speaker 2>wear Hawaian shirts anytime I can't back at school. I

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<v Speaker 2>wear Hawaiian shirts almost every day, just because I like

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<v Speaker 2>how to look. I have three main reasons for liking them.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the patterns, and I like the like fabric.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also like not wearing a shirt. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like whenever you're wearing a Hawaian shirt, you can

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<v Speaker 2>just unbutton it so that you don't have to wear

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<v Speaker 2>it all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>This is absolutely fascinating Charlie. It says here that you

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<v Speaker 1>are known around town as the Hawaiian shirt guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>but you feel like you are more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that I cannot be because you're just thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>If someone walks around every day and wears a T shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>like just different T shirts, no one's gonna spot not

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<v Speaker 2>but because it's a Hawaiian shirt, it's like, oh, this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is just that dude, he's the Hawaiian shirt guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just a guy wearing clothes because it feels.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You say you feel like you are more than just

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawaiian shirt guy. When you are describing what more

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<v Speaker 1>you are? What more are you? Hmmm?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. I think I think I'm somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>of a of a comedian. I've grown up listening to comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>studying comedy. I studied standing up. Oh yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that I have the ability to make people

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<v Speaker 2>laugh when ever oka. But I also think that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, go ahead, you finished first, then I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you my thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm a I think that I'm just h

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<v Speaker 2>and all around good dude that just likes to just

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<v Speaker 2>likes to be silly. I'm not silly. I like to

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<v Speaker 2>be funny. I like making people happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I bring up an idea to you and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get your thoughts on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're upset that people know you as the Hawaiian

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<v Speaker 1>Shirt guy because you believe that there's more to you

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<v Speaker 1>than that. You believe that you want you want people

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<v Speaker 1>to see you as funny. You want people to see

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<v Speaker 1>you as silly, as entertaining. And what if I told

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<v Speaker 1>you that. I think that within the perception of you

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<v Speaker 1>as the Hawaiian Shirt Guy lies all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Being funny, being silly, being entertaining is part of the

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<v Speaker 1>identity of you as the Hawaiian Shirt Guy. So in reality, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the people perceiving you as the Hawaiian Shirt Guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is them perceiving you as all those things?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree? But I feel like sometimes people only see

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<v Speaker 2>me that when I'm in the Hawaiian shirt Like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to class one day, I go and I

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<v Speaker 2>go to a less class, more of an office hours

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<v Speaker 2>with all my friends, and I wasn't wearing a Hawaiian shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just wearing like a polo because I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I'll dress up differently and everyone was and everyone was like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you all right? Doesn't seem like you're doing okage?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like why and they said, well, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not wearing a Hawaiian shirt. And that's what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>set me off. That's what I thought to myself. Hold up, now,

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<v Speaker 2>am I just that guide to them?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I the guy that always wears a warn shirts?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that with TV as.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 6>Charlie?

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie? I think that you need to be less worried

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<v Speaker 1>about people's perceptions of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's true. I feel like I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the people should just wear them more often, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that if you came in on a

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<v Speaker 2>stream with like your get go, get get up and

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<v Speaker 2>then a Hawaiian shirt over it, people would feel more comforted.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, just throwing that out there just might.

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<v Speaker 1>Also. Look, here's another thing. If you're going around telling

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<v Speaker 1>every single person you meet that they need to start

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a Hawaiian today, Oh no, Hawaiian guy. True, You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're digging your own grave.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, So then I should I shouldn't pitch it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't not wear it. You know, I can still

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<v Speaker 2>wear it.

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<v Speaker 3>I can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Comfortable with it. I just don't have to like spread

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to spread the word of Hawaiian shirtness

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<v Speaker 2>to people. I'm not trying to get everyone to be

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<v Speaker 2>like me. That's got to be myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew when I picked up this phone call that

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<v Speaker 1>we were gonna hash out some very complex character development,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so glad that I was right.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, this is this is so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really vibing with this right now because you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been like thinking to myself, because I've been listening

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<v Speaker 2>to so many of your videos, and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the deck can help me out.

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<v Speaker 1>With DECI, Charlie, you love wearing Hawaiian shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>I love wearing Hawaiian shirts. And honestly, if you give

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<v Speaker 2>me like a lay that they wear in Hawaii, I

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<v Speaker 2>love wearing those two.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd wear Hawaiian pants, Oh, you said, Lae, Charlie, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what? I why the way? I have another I

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<v Speaker 1>have another solution for you. I have another solution for you. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>move to Hawaii because there everyone's the Hawaiian shirt guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually don't know if that's true. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if people in Hawaii wear Hawaiian shirts. But if everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawaiian shirt.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy, you know what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what that means, Charlie, No one. That means

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<v Speaker 1>no one's the Hawaiian shirt guy. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you should be taking that drastic measures, Charlie. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should just do what you do when you live

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<v Speaker 1>your life and not care about how you're being perceived

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<v Speaker 1>as much. That's my fine answer to you on this subject.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's I think that's the best answer

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<v Speaker 2>that I've heard, given you're the only really talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you afraid to talk to other people about this?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like it's not a real subject. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>go up to someone and be like, man, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like how people come with a Warine shirt guy, because

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<v Speaker 2>then they're like, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean? This is not a real subject.

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<v Speaker 1>This is as real of a subject as it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very like I know you're fucking around,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is a manifestation of you caring about other

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<v Speaker 1>people's opinions of you. Which is a thing that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>deals with. This is it's an extremely common human struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not I wouldn't say that this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a real issue. You know, this is this is real.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, like when someone says something to me, like like,

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<v Speaker 2>why you're wearing a Hawaiian shirt today? Are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of just play along. I'm like, oh ha ha, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I should have worn one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, but should I have?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you don't have to like tell me what to wear, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you learned something from this call? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I learned about self love or something to that extent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good enough anything else. When I say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, uh, enjoy your enjoy yourself this summer. Wear whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want, do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, thank you for calling Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, love you, bud.

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<v Speaker 1>I See, I knew that was going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>great call because there was I like anything, any call

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<v Speaker 1>that has some character development in it, or has, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>deep conflicting feelings about one's identity, I think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a compelling drama. And I feel like there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of compelling drama to Charlie's character as he's figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out even to himself. I know we talked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about like, oh, you shouldn't care what other people think

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<v Speaker 1>about you, But he was also struggling proving to himself,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the most important thing, that he is more

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<v Speaker 1>than the Hawaiian shirt guy. But I think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to figure it out. Next phone call, Hello high as

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<v Speaker 1>this cat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes it is hello, mister and wild get go going

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<v Speaker 4>on with you? Kat having some relationship struggles, kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of what kind of relationship struggles.

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<v Speaker 4>So back in February, I met this girl. She was

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<v Speaker 4>really nice. We hit it off. We were dating for

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<v Speaker 4>three months, and then we broke up, which such, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was mutual and stept forward to now I have

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<v Speaker 4>met another girl who like vaguely reminds me of the

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<v Speaker 4>first girl, and I'm trying to like to figure out

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<v Speaker 4>in my head it was like a rebound relationship or not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a lot to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm going to say what the call screeners said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to kind of make a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of sense of it. It says you broke all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just really you know this is what

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<v Speaker 1>you just said just now. But you were dating a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing a new girl. You said this new girl

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<v Speaker 1>reminds you of your old girlfriend, and it says you

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<v Speaker 1>are quote worried that this new one is a rebound.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean. I'm more than worried that she's

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<v Speaker 1>a rebound.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more just like a rebound relationship, and like, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I'm only interested in her because because of how

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<v Speaker 4>much I missed the first girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, interesting you are, You're okay, you're having conflicting feelings

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<v Speaker 1>about this and you're feeling like, oh, am I just

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<v Speaker 1>using this person as a way of getting over my girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>or because she reminds me of my girlfriend, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>worried about if the foundation of this relationship is coming

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<v Speaker 1>from a legitimate place. Yeah, exactly how long were you

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<v Speaker 1>dating your old girlfriend for?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Three months?

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<v Speaker 4>Almost four?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Three months? And ends? Was that your first time

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>First time? I'm like a I'm like a serious relationship,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was like both of ours, like like there

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<v Speaker 4>was three months, but it like felt like longer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Hm, what is it that you like about

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<v Speaker 1>this new parson?

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<v Speaker 4>We both have autism? And so they kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>understand they us, like I called my girlfriend of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>who's the apprentance, But like they're really understanding for when

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<v Speaker 4>I have like like mental health stuff. They're really smart

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<v Speaker 4>and just like it's really like they're like emotionally mature.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, and.

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<v Speaker 4>We just like really clicked.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this person you said that they're a non

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<v Speaker 1>binary person. Right, I'll go word. So, I mean, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. You you're expressing to me that you're worried

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<v Speaker 1>that you only like this person because they remind you

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<v Speaker 1>of your past girlfriend. But when I asked you, just now,

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<v Speaker 1>what about this this new person you're dating is attractive

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<v Speaker 1>to you? You listed a bunch of reasons that have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with your old girlfriend. You said that

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<v Speaker 1>they're also autistic, and you guys kind of bond over that.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that. You said, you guys just click. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just in general, you have good chemistry. You listed a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of reasons that have nothing to do with your

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<v Speaker 1>old girlfriend. I think that's a good sign because if

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't able to answer that question, you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to and you or if you answered it with something

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I just don't want to be alone, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just want someone who reminds me of the past. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I would be like, yeah, maybe you're onto something there,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not how you answer the question. You answered

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<v Speaker 1>the question very legitimately.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like, but.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is it was also autistic. We also wanted

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<v Speaker 4>over that, okay, and like I thought that we also clicked,

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<v Speaker 4>but I mean we broke up, which I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't think that your past relationships need

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<v Speaker 1>to define your your current ones. Can I also introduce

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<v Speaker 1>another idea to you because it sounds like it was

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<v Speaker 1>not that much time in between the old girlfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>the new partner you have just spent You're only nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Have you spent an extended period of time

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<v Speaker 1>just alone?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, definitely?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay there, Well why is there trauma there and just

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<v Speaker 1>being you know, not having a partner?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I tried to like like like I tried to start

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<v Speaker 4>eating when I was like fifteen, I think, and their

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<v Speaker 4>currents were against that. And back story short, I got

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<v Speaker 4>sent to this like troubled team industry place, which was

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<v Speaker 4>really terrible, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was great, okay, but but I'm asking, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you said you. I mean, you're only nineteen, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what I'm asking is like, in your in

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<v Speaker 1>your short span of adult life, have you spent time

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<v Speaker 1>just being alone and not in a relationship with a person.

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<v Speaker 1>And I asked that. I asked this to every person

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<v Speaker 1>who calls here talking about relationship issues, because I do

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<v Speaker 1>think it's very important.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, okay, guess not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And I'm not saying that to say, hey, go

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<v Speaker 1>break up with your partner right now and and fucking

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<v Speaker 1>go do that. But I'm just saying, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you rushed out of this old relationship and you're

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<v Speaker 1>rushing into this new one, you maybe I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've and I don't and I genuinely don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. I'm not trying to pride to you either way,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe you didn't give yourself enough breathing room here, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to just be like, Okay, who is cat? Who am

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<v Speaker 1>I in this world? But what do you? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me about what you do outside of your

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<v Speaker 1>romantic relationships? Are you in school? Are you working? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking on my ged I was trying to find

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<v Speaker 4>a from home job because you know, autism, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get back into art. I play video games

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<v Speaker 4>hat with my cat. I go on my major walks

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<v Speaker 4>pretty often.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you said, you said because of your autism, you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a work from home job. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>Are you adverse to going outside and being around people

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Does any part of you have a desire to overcome

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<v Speaker 1>that or are you feeling very comfortable with uh uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the way you live your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I guess somewhat just like like I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>now it's like not the time because like I'm also

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<v Speaker 4>trying trying to move out and stuff. Yehich like like

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<v Speaker 4>obviously that requires a study income, so IM trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do that before I like trying to like push my

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<v Speaker 4>boundaries more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you have a lot going on. You have like

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand different things that you're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>seriously this moment. So don't stretch. That's why I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I said to you about the whole like

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<v Speaker 1>how long have you spent some time just being single,

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<v Speaker 1>being by yourself? Because you are dealing with all this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to find a job, you're trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>move out, You're trying to do all this shit, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you also have this relationship on top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So just like you know, it sounds like this, this

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<v Speaker 1>person that you met is a good and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about romantically. I'm talking just as a person

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<v Speaker 1>in your life. It sounds like it's a good person

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<v Speaker 1>I have in your life because there's a person you

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<v Speaker 1>can relate to, a person you click with, but don't

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<v Speaker 1>at this very moment in your life put all your

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<v Speaker 1>eggs in their basket because you have a lot going

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<v Speaker 1>on with yourself. Yeah, and it sounds like you need

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<v Speaker 1>to give proper attention to as well. Yeah, is that

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<v Speaker 1>resonated all? I'm not trying to tell you all of

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<v Speaker 1>your life?

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<v Speaker 4>Who does?

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<v Speaker 5>It? Does?

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<v Speaker 4>Takes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 5>Cat?

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<v Speaker 1>Cat? Is there anything else you want to say to

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<v Speaker 1>other people of the computer before we go? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't let other people tell you how to live your

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<v Speaker 4>life unless it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Advice, unless if they're a Hollywood movie star. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Pitt tells you to start wearing blue socks or something,

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<v Speaker 1>you should do it because he might give you money. Absolutely, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>don't let anyone tell you what to do unless if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to give you a lot of money to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. That's what I say. Thank you for calling Kat,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, have a good day, Jared.

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<v Speaker 7>Hello, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Jared?

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<v Speaker 7>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>How can I get you today?

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<v Speaker 7>Well? I don't know. You've probably read the promise, but

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to talk to you about my I think

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<v Speaker 7>it's rational, but rational fear of ceiling fans, more specifically

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<v Speaker 7>ceiling fans that are going at a high speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I in your car right now? Am I in

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<v Speaker 1>your car? Speaker?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? You're in my car? I No, you're you're actually

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<v Speaker 7>I am driving?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you pull over?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you driving towards?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going home from work right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Are you on a highway or are we on

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<v Speaker 1>like just a street thing?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we're on a highway, but I can there's a

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<v Speaker 7>negative right here?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? What's so? What's on the exit? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>any like you know how right before the exit there's

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<v Speaker 1>like signs that are like here, there's a McDonald's here

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<v Speaker 1>and Jolly Rogers here. Yeah, yeah, Roy Rogers. The word?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's that? The exit.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not quite area. I think I know this road,

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<v Speaker 7>though there's a gas fish like right on the side

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<v Speaker 7>of the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So in the meantime while we're waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>you have what you consider to be rational, but what

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<v Speaker 1>others are telling you is irrational of a fear of

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling fans going in a high speed. Tell me, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>your rationale for this fear.

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<v Speaker 7>So when I was younger, I shared a room with

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<v Speaker 7>my brother, and I was on the top bunk, and

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<v Speaker 7>so a part of my bed was like right underneath

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<v Speaker 7>the ceiling fan. And so sometimes when I would wake

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<v Speaker 7>up and get down to go to the bathroom or something,

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<v Speaker 7>I would hit my head on the ceiling fan while

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<v Speaker 7>I was going and it hurt really bad. And so

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's probably the reason why they make me uneasy,

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<v Speaker 7>just because of the the starring from when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 7>But I also don't just don't trust the blades. I've

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<v Speaker 7>seen too many of the blades fall off and just

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<v Speaker 7>fly who knows where. Yeah, I think that's where where

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<v Speaker 7>the the fear comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I think I've been in various rooms where

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<v Speaker 1>there were bunk beds where I've also noticed that the

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<v Speaker 1>top bunk is dangerously close to the ceiling fan.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean ceiling fan is right above where I was.

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<v Speaker 1>And how old were you when when this was your arrangement?

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<v Speaker 7>So I shared a room with my brother since I

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<v Speaker 7>was four when I started sharing the with them, and

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<v Speaker 7>this is something that moved out of that room.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and please go ahead. Sorry, I know you.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh h. He moved out of that room when he

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<v Speaker 7>was like eighteen, so I think I was like twelve.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's when I started to use the bottom bunk.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something you got to confront your parents about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because why on earth? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought about this until you're making me think about

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<v Speaker 1>it just now. But when I was a kid, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, these fucking top bunks because I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in rooms like this before, like whatever, you know, staying

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<v Speaker 1>at cousins' houses or some shit, where there's a top

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<v Speaker 1>bunk is dangerously close to the ceiling fan. And now

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm thinking about it retrospectively, what fucking moron put

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<v Speaker 1>the bed there?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there were multiple places and where they could have

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<v Speaker 7>put the bed, but they chose to put it were

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<v Speaker 7>my head. It was almost directly underneath the ceiling fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you need to confront with I'm like angry for

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<v Speaker 1>you because now I'm thinking about times when I've also

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<v Speaker 1>been on the top bunk and hit my head on

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking ceiling fan. Why the fuck did anyone put

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<v Speaker 1>it there? You should confront your parents about this.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think, yeah, I think I should. I tell

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<v Speaker 7>them sometimes when I'm over at their house now I'm

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<v Speaker 7>moved out now, but when I when I'm at their

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<v Speaker 7>house and they have the ceiling fan and the living

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<v Speaker 7>room on all the way up, I would just turn

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<v Speaker 7>it down a couple of notches and I tell them

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, it's because you you scarred me from when

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<v Speaker 7>I was younger, and they're just like, oh, you're fine,

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<v Speaker 7>and they just turn it back up. But they don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that you need to confront your parents about.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to ask them why they would make the

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<v Speaker 1>decision to put the bunk bed so close to the

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling fan, especially when there were obviously several other options

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<v Speaker 1>of places to put it. You need to ask them

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>why they made that decision, and you need to confront

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<v Speaker 1>them about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think I think so too. Yeah, for sure

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<v Speaker 7>because it I'm going to talk to them about that

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 7>this weekend. Yeah. No, it doesn't make any sense. It's

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<v Speaker 7>like they wanted me. Maybe they were trying to make

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<v Speaker 7>me tougher or something in some statistic way.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, you think they might have done it intentionally as

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<v Speaker 1>a way to make you tougher.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't know. I'm just I'm just kind

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<v Speaker 7>of spitball and I'm just trying to rationalize. I guess

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<v Speaker 7>because I feel like my parents wouldn't. We're smarter than that,

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<v Speaker 7>but maybe they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it worked.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd consider myself tough, I guess, but I'm also pretty

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<v Speaker 7>emotionally absent. I've always struggled having emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>And you think that that might have something to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the ceiling fan near the top bunk.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's probably more to do with it than that,

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<v Speaker 7>but I think that that probably didn't help.

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 1>A thousand of different places you could put the bunk bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they would put it under the

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling fan. And I'm so glad that you called in

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and that we could talk about this, because I haven't

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.479
<v Speaker 1>thought about this in a while. I've been in several

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 1>rooms where it's weird. This is a recurring phenomenon, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that there's other people in the chat and

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>people listening to this that have experienced this as well,

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and we can all kind of collectively gather in frustration.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Why did this thing that didn't need to happen happen?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope you overcome this. I'm rooting for you,

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and I hope that your confrontation with your parents is

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<v Speaker 1>helpful to you in overcoming this.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything else I want to say to the people of

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the computer before we go, Jared, No, not.

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<v Speaker 7>Really, just I love what you do. I listen to

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 7>everything that you've put out so far, and I love it.

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 7>I listen to it at work all the time, and

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<v Speaker 7>I just appreciate what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you, Jed.

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<v Speaker 7>People out helps me out a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Jared, I appreciate that man. Thank you for calling.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>God. What a strange memory that Jared's brought back from

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>me and for possibly a lot of people listening, I understand.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>And in certain floor plans where the ceiling fan is

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>so centered and the bunk bed is big, where like

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe an edge of it is there, but it feels

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>like an avoidable problem. So there is weight to the

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>idea that it was done intentionally, and I hope if

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it was, it was done for good reasons that I

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>can't think of right now as to what those reasons

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>could be. But maybe Jared will call back and we'll

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>get an answer. Hello, Hello, high sus Jake.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah, Yes, this is Jake.

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<v Speaker 1>Well what now?

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm assuming this is gek.

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>This is you know what? This is somebody that you

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>are on the phone with and you are on the

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>phone and I am on the phone. What do we do? Now?

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Where do we go from here? Jake? Tell me?

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<v Speaker 5>If I'm not mistaken, I believe we talk. Okay, what

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to talk about spitting in food at a

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 5>fast food restaurant?

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you wanted to talk about spitting and food at

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>fast food restaurants? And uh, please elaborate. I would love

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to hear more about this. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I work at Chick fil A in Wyoming, so

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:50.959
<v Speaker 5>there's there's nothing here, and you know, we we occasionally

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 5>get quote unquote Karen spitting their food. Yeah, but we

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 5>have to say a prayer first, Uh, considering it's Chick

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<v Speaker 5>fil A.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you're telling me that you work at a

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Chick fil a and Wyoming you occasionally get quote unquote

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Karen's and when you do, you spin in there. Yeah, okay,

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>tell me about something a person did to make you

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>want to spit in their food.

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 5>Well, I've worked, I've worked in the kitchen and the

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 5>in the front, and I got I got slapped by

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 5>a customer once and uh, she threw her drink at

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 5>me and we still we still served her. And uh

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 5>that that that would be the first time I spit

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 5>in some of these foods.

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>She slapped you. Why did she slap you? How did

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the situation escalate to that point?

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 5>Uh? You know, I took I took her order and

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 5>we we ran out of waffle fries very very early

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 5>in the in the morning.

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>You ran out of waffle fries, and so she slapped you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Really, yeah, Yeah, that that was it. It was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a nice slap though. If I if I

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 5>had to rate it, I'd probably put it up there seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling me and you know, listen, here's the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't I don't have your job, so maybe

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not as keyed into you know how intense people

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>can get over nothing. Maybe I don't have as much

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>of a barometer on that as you do, But you're

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.239
<v Speaker 1>telling me there really is nothing else that happened in

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>this situation. You said, you are telling me that it

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>went like this. You said, she said I would like

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking chicken sandwiches and waffle fries. You said, sorry, man,

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>we're out of waffle fries, and then she slaps you

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>across the face. You're telling me that's how it happens.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, Well, you know, she she said that how could

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 5>we be out of waffle fries? That I made a

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 5>careless mistake, and I told her that, you know, I

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 5>had nothing to do with the waffle fry situation and

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 5>received a slap.

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<v Speaker 1>You received us, and you served her anyway.

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 5>We yeah, my my manager had us serve her. So

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<v Speaker 5>that that's what started this apocalyptic.

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Because you know, look right when she slaps you, I

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>think that's that's what it's time to possibly get the

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>authorities involved and and get her on down to uh,

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, booked for assaults.

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's Wyoming, so I'm sure I'm sure came out.

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Well what does that mean? It's wyoming?

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<v Speaker 5>So, well, it's it's you know, there's there's nothing that

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 5>goes on here. It's it's a bunch of small towns

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 5>and you know, a crazy occasional hillbillies come in. You know,

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 5>they might pee on the floor, and uh they might not.

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Do they not have societal infrastructure in Wyoming? I wouldn't

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>be surprised if the answer is.

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I wanna. I want to say yes, but I

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 5>feel like there there might be some parts in Wyoming

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 5>that do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, what's your name, Jake? Jake? Do you desire

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to get out of Wyoming? Do you see more for yourself?

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.280
<v Speaker 5>I do see. I do seem more more for myself.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 5>I don't think you think Wyoming is the place for me.

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 5>I see, I see, I see a future in in

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 5>maybe a bigger city, someplace like Chicago, maybe maybe you know,

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 5>somewhere in Arizona like Phoenix. Uh she kind of kind

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 5>of living living a somewhat better life.

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>What does a better life look like to you?

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, not getting not getting slapped over waffle fries?

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 5>I think I think that's stuck with me pretty pretty

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 5>pretty hard.

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:19.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know I see that for you too, Jake.

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that there are better there's a better future

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>ahead for you that doesn't involve getting slapped over waffle fries.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still shocked that this woman. How old was she?

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 1>Do you think?

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 5>Uh? Late late forties, early fifties, late probably fifties.

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's you know what's crazy to me about people like

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>that is this woman's in her fifties. This woman's in

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>her fifties and she's still acting. I mean, if the

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>story is as you told it, and she slapped you

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 1>all out of waffle fries, that means that it's been

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty years and this woman acting like this. Fifty years

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>is a long time. And whenever I see like an

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>old angry person, I always think, like, man, what kind

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>of fucking carnage must have gone on in this woman's life? Like,

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>what's the worst thing this woman's ever done? It must

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>have been insane if she's out here slapping people for

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>waffle from its like what she's doing to her family?

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>What's her situation like with you know, all the people

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that she comes to contact with over her fifty years

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:33.240
<v Speaker 1>on earth.

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, I never never really thought of that aspect.

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm she could have she could have been happened, you know,

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 5>an off day, something horrible could have happened too. That

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 5>doesn't That doesn't excuse the slap. It was a very

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 5>hard slap. My eyes watered up a little.

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Now, of course, it doesn't excuse the slap. I'm just

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it, not even I'm not even thinking about

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it in terms of creating a sympathetic tone. I'm just

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it in terms of, like, you know, I'm

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>aghast at the fact that she's been alive for fifty years,

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>like probably slapping people over miscellaneous bullshit all the time.

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Like that's a crazy, that's a crazy. How do you

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>live to fifty like that? That's wild? I don't understand.

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, she she was the stereotypical you know, Karen.

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 5>She she had the the bob cut, and she she

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 5>just seemed angry. I feel like, I feel like even

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 5>even at the start, she wanted to start start a problem,

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 5>CAUs an issue. It was in coming of her voice.

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you this, what is it? Okay, before

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 1>we go, what is it? And you said you want

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to move to a big city. What do you want

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>to do in this big city.

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 5>I want to I want to become something. I want

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 5>to be more than what I am now.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm hmm. I'm gonna tell I'm gonna give you

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>an unpopular maybe this is unpopular who I don't know,

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think you should have spat in that

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>lady's food. I think that, you know. Look, I'm not

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna say whether or not she she deserved it, but

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say that whether or not she deserved it

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:20.439
<v Speaker 1>is irrelevant. You know, because you, Jake, you have aspirations

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to get out of stupid Wyoming and to, as you say,

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>make something of yourself. And I don't want you wasting

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>a single second of your beautiful, precious mind power devising

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>plans and performing actions that whose sole purpose are to

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 1>enact revenge and spite upon people, because you, I think

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you're better than that. And it's again, it's not a

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>question of whether or not this lady deserved it or

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. It's a question of what are you

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.879
<v Speaker 1>reserving your brain power and energy for. And I hope

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that you're reserving it for thinking of ways to get

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the fuck out of Wyoming and, as you say, make

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>something better for yourself. And I hope that because you

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>you gave a vague answer when you say make something

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>better of yourself, it's a little vague. Take a second.

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Take a second to think about what that actually means,

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what, because if you don't aim at anything,

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>if you don't, I don't believe in manifesting in this

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>way of if you wish it, you will get it.

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>But I believe it in a sense of you have

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to think of something, even if it's a vague idea

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of something, and then you'll you'll be on a path

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>toward that. Does that make sense?

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it really, it really does make sense. I

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 5>have to thank you for your for your advice.

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Of course, thank you for Hey, you know what, you

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>know what, Jake, my pleasure.

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 5>Ah, I don't like you anymore, Lole.

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It was a Chick fil A reference, It was.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 5>It was a Chick fil A reference.

0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Talk to you soon, Jake.

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 5>Yep, have a good one.

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:01.919
<v Speaker 6>Mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 6>Hello, Hi?

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Is this Amanda? Yes?

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 8>Is this a get?

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes? This is the get? What's going on with you? Amanda?

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god?

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 4>And I expect to get on.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 6>I have I'm calling because I have COVID.

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>You're calling because you have COVID?

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Okay, what's that like?

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 6>What's my second time having it? I'm actually vaccinated? This time.

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 6>So it's a lot less bad, but I'm very confused.

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what have you been doing since you've been How

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>long have you had COVID for.

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 6>I had tested positive yesterday and I have not stopped

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 6>playing Animal Crossing since.

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you've been playing a lot of Animal Crossing. Well,

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it says here that you're trying to forgure out what

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to do with your time because you were quote partying

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>every day and now you can't do that. Yes, well,

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't sound like it's going to be a long

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>call because you found a solution. You've started playing Animal Crossing.

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, I can't I get bored if I

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 6>plan crossing for more than like an hour.

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 1>You don't get bored after going to partying for more

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:27.919
<v Speaker 1>than an hour?

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.399
<v Speaker 6>No, because there's stuff to do, tell people to talk

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 6>to when I go out.

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>You can talk to people on the computer. I'm doing

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>it right now.

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 6>I mean I am too, I guess or would you

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:42.800
<v Speaker 6>call the phone call?

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I'd call this a party.

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 6>I like this party. I think this is a good party.

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you do when you go to parties? Do

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you walk? Or are you like a social person? Do

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you just go up to a circle of people and go, hey, everyone,

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? Type of thing.

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 6>I think it depends on my mood. But lately I've

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 6>been going out and dancing, like I went out to

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 6>a club. Actually that's the think that's where I got COVID.

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 6>I went out to this club and I started dancing

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 6>with a bunch of strangers. Obviously my friends were there too,

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 6>but it.

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Was just like.

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 6>I wound up getting hit on by a couple of

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 6>swingers while I was there.

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>So I guess that the sort of pre written, coded

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>world of animal crossing doesn't compare to the real world

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 1>that you've been living in for a while. But here's

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 1>what you do is take this as a as a

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>little breath, you know, be bored, really relish in your boredom,

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>because then when you get cured of your COVID, if

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 1>you make it and look, I don't know if you will,

0:42:54.880 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>but I hope you will. I'm Brian for you. Prayers.

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>No damn good at doing anything, but I'll do it anyway.

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Actually I probably won't.

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 6>I appreciate this.

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I probably won't pray for you. I'll probably gonna forget

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 1>after I get off the phone. Oh but you might

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>make it. And if you do be prepared, you know,

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>once you go out into the world, everything will be

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.399
<v Speaker 1>even more exciting because you are bored for a little bit.

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I guess that's a fair point, but it's

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 6>so hard to sit and be bored, Like I can't

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 6>even go get food, which is an easy one for

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 6>me to like preoccupie my time with, you know, play.

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>More animal crossing, get deeper into that, and like I said,

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>being relish in your own boredom, Amanda, because it's gonna

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>make everything a lot better when you're done. It's okay

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to be bored. Think about it like this. For most

0:43:56.560 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>of uh the time that humanity has existed, humans have

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.479
<v Speaker 1>been extremely bored. It was only into it was only

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 1>about ten years ago when we started being on our

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>phones all the time that it was unnatural to be

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>bored all the time. But before then, people were just

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>relentlessly bored for almost all of eternity up until recently.

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>So get back in touch with the roots of humanity

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and just sort of sit and stare at a wall.

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 6>I feel like people back when they were bored all

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 6>the time could still like find things to do, like

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 6>that it were physically active but I can't breathe very well,

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 6>so I can't like go out for a run or

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 6>like do those things that be bored and active, you.

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean, Like get yourself a yo yo, Amanda.

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how to yo yo.

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 3>I've never been able to learn how.

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>To yoyo Amanda, Amanda. Were Look, I'm sitting here, I'm

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>giving you, you know, all these ideas, and I think

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that you need to be open minded toward alternative ways

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of keeping yourself occupied, or don't keep yourself occupied like

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, and then don't even get the idea. Just

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>fucking stare at a wall and learn how to be

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>extremely bored. We always run into problems when we're fighting

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>these feelings that you have a feeling of boredom and

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you're fighting it. You're trying to get it to go away.

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:36.280
<v Speaker 1>But do the opposite, accept it, but embrace boredom into

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>your life. Hug it. Stare at the wall and think

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:43.479
<v Speaker 1>to yourself, what a psychedelic experience I'm having right now,

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>being in a fucking meat sack on earth staring at

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>this fucking wall. This is amazing. I'm so honored, lucky

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 1>to feel bored in this very moment, right now, I

0:45:54.680 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>completely sober of sound, mind and body. AM in awe

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.760
<v Speaker 1>of the psychedelic experience I am having right now staring

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>at this wall. I want that to be you, Amanda.

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 1>So I'm hanging up the phone. I want you to

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 1>go stare at the wall until you feel one with

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the earth.

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 6>Okay, but before I stare at the wall, what color

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 6>yoyo should I get?

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Don't get an yo yo. Stare at the wall. Talk

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 1>to you soon, Amanda. That's what I want for her.

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I want that for her because wouldn't that be a

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>great place to be to not need a yo yo,

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to not need animal crossing, to not need some guy

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>at a party talking to you, or some lights and

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>colors and just you in a wall. You look, if

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you're placed in a situation where it says you and

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 1>a wall, you're gonna fight it. That's gonna be your instinct.

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna fight it. You're gonna go. I need to

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.240
<v Speaker 1>look at my phone. I need to go on the computer.

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I need to jack off. I need to read a book.

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I need to do something. I need to eat a snack.

0:46:55.719 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Something that's gonna be it's your programming. But what if

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you were higher than your programming and you really had

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the superhuman ability to stare at a wall and make

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it interesting for yourself. That would be a superpower that

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I want Amanda that I don't have. I'm not going

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 1>to do it, but I want a Manda to do

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>it because I think that she can, and I think

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it'll benefit her throughout her life to be able to

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>have the most fun anyone has ever had staring at

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a wall. All right, next phone call, Hello, Hello, how

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>are you?

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm good? This is Lyle.

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, is this Isaiah?

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? This is crazy? Man?

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:01.720
<v Speaker 1>What was going on with you? Isaiah?

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 3>I just kind of wanted to talk about this project

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 3>I've been working on.

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's the project?

0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 3>So a little backstory. I have a Type two bipolar

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 3>disorder OKAP, and when I was a bit of a

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 3>manic state, I started making a movie. I'm I'm a

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 3>film student and I wrote the script like a year ago.

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 3>But when I was in this manic state, I took

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 3>out a loan from a family member for a couple

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:39.359
<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars and I've been working on this film for

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 3>the past maybe six to eight months. Since that manic state.

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, in a manic state you decided to

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>create a film.

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, I already wanted to, but in a manic well

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 3>technically more of a hypomanic state, which is like a

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 3>less severe manic state. I started like actually working on it,

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let me ask you something. The work started

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>while you were in a manick state. But has the

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 1>work continued by you in all different kinds of states? Yes, okay?

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:24.439
<v Speaker 1>And how has that work been?

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:31.879
<v Speaker 3>Stressful? Man? Really up and down? Like it's by far

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:37.360
<v Speaker 3>the hardiest thing I've ever had to do, and like,

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 3>and it's not going fantastic, but it's going you know.

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. Before I was a gecko, back in

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>high school, I would make movies with my friends, just

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>by myself, independent production lot like what you're doing. And

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it is to this day. I say this full sincerity.

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:01.360
<v Speaker 1>The hardest thing I've ever had to do in my

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:05.799
<v Speaker 1>life is make those fucking movies. It's fucking stressful and possible.

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not a reasonable task to go and try to

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>make a movie. It sucks.

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what is your movie about? Okay?

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 3>My movie is about a thirteen year old boy who

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of has a city home life with him and

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 3>his dad. So he decides that he's that He's like,

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 3>fuck it, I'm gonna become a serial killer. And he

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 3>goes out and he finds a victim, which is another

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 3>a thirteen year old girl that lives nearby, and he

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 3>tries to murder her, but in the process he ends

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 3>up getting his ass beat by her.

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Is it this is non I an autobiographical story?

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 5>Is it?

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 3>No? No, it is not. It's kind of It's just

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of like a it's like an act comedy film.

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>That's nice. Always is a shorter feature.

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 3>It's a feature.

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a feature. You're breaking on making a feature. How

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 1>long are we talking? This is like an hour and

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:12.880
<v Speaker 1>a half long movie.

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:16.760
<v Speaker 3>We're shooting for eighty ninety minutes.

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Eighty ninety minutes. Jesus, Okay, how many more stays of

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>shooting do you have left?

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.959
<v Speaker 3>Right now? We have seven scheduled. I'm actually getting ready

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 3>for a shoot because we shoot in a few hours.

0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 3>We have seven schedules, but we are behind schedule, so

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 3>we're probably going to have to pick up a few

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:36.760
<v Speaker 3>more days.

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, Isaiah, I'm I'm really proud of you. I know,

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing I don't and people I feel like

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>this the stream and a lot lately people are, you know,

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 1>chalking a lot of things about themselves up to their

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>to their mental illnesses and whatnot. But give yourself credit.

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I know you're just talking about like, oh, I started

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this in a mental state, but inn in a manic state.

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, took a leap of faith. You decided to

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>embark on doing a really difficult fucking thing, making a

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.239
<v Speaker 1>feature length movie. It's impossible, You're not supposed to do it.

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:15.839
<v Speaker 1>You totally shouldn't have started. Get you started, and it's

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:18.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna You're gonna be glad you did it. You're gonna

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 1>be glad you did it, even though it was fucking painful.

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I know how it is to make these movies. It's

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it's really hard, and I'm proud of you for taking

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the leap to to go and do it, because a

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of people they'll just have an idea for something

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and they'll sit on it forever, and it takes a

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>lot to decide to actually go and do it.

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but can I can I kind of kind of

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 3>talk about kind of an issue I'm having with it? Yeah?

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Please?

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:52.800
<v Speaker 3>So I have this problem where I can't think the

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 3>small picture. I've always I always think big picture, and

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:00.240
<v Speaker 3>I've been working on this project lately and i can't

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 3>and it's just not coming together like it is in

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 3>my head. And it's very important. You know. I sat

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 3>down and I wrote this script because I had something

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to say, and I think I communicated with

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 3>the script, but I'm worried that the picture, when it

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:17.799
<v Speaker 3>comes together, isn't going to say what I'm trying to say,

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 3>if that makes any sense, Like it's not. It's like

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 3>we're running into problems. My cast is getting sick. I'm

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 3>running out of money, I'm already in thousands of dollars

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 3>with a debt, I will behind schedule, and it's just

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 3>becoming more and more problematic as things go on. And

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 3>on top of that, my image isn't coming out like

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to when I talked to my I talked

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.759
<v Speaker 3>to my actual therapist about this, and he tells me,

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, just stick with it. You know, I say

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm over budget, behind schedule. He says, that's what making

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 3>a movie is, you know. Yep, But it doesn't mean

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 3>it's any less stressful when it's coming from your pockets.

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Uh yeah, going into once a debt it's expensive. Uh,

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 1>it's you having to wrangle the schedules of a shit

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 1>ton of people. It's you putting in a shit ton

0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>of work and effort into something and then looking at

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:18.919
<v Speaker 1>it on the screen and going, oh, fuck, this isn't

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:23.600
<v Speaker 1>even what I set out to make. It's yeah, it's

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this stuff. You're in film school, this

0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 1>is your very first film, it's your first endeavor. And

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>actually all of this shit is great because you are

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 1>diving headfirst into the reality of making a movie, which

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is all of these horrible things. And I'd say it's

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 1>great because it's it's keying you in to what this

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 1>experience is actually like and giving you a little moment

0:54:55.680 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>to go, do I really want to do this? And

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 1>if you at the end of your journey, once the

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.359
<v Speaker 1>film is completed, once you're in the theater with the

0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 1>premiere and you see it on the big screen and

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you are in a retrospective about how you're feeling right now,

0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 1>because you're feeling really stressed and shitty right now. But

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:16.919
<v Speaker 1>eventually a day will come where you've wrapped and you

0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:20.239
<v Speaker 1>are looking back on this retrospectively, you'll know whether or

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 1>not you want to go do it again. And that's great, man,

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, because a lot of people they don't even try.

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 1>They didn't even get to have the moment where they go,

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I tried. This wasn't for me. They just go I

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:36.880
<v Speaker 1>never tried. I just always thought about doing this, but

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I never did it because they were afraid, and you

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:43.440
<v Speaker 1>weren't afraid. You went and you did it. So I

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's this is a valuable experience for you. I

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you look at it like that. I honestly, like,

0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I know what it's like to be in the middle

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 1>of making a fucking movie. And I can totally understand

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:55.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're not thinking about it like that right now

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 1>because you're you're not in the retrospective of this. You

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:02.120
<v Speaker 1>are in this. You don't have the perspective of being

0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 1>out of it yet because you're still in it, but

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:08.959
<v Speaker 1>eventually you will. Does that make sense, Yeah?

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 3>It does. But it's like, you know, I keep trying

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 3>to focus on all that stuff, but it doesn't make

0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 3>it any easier, you know, And I'm.

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:17.279
<v Speaker 6>Not going to.

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, there's nothing that I or you're real

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>therapist or any No. No, what you're doing is very

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:29.239
<v Speaker 1>hard and stressful and kind of sucks, and it's not

0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:33.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna get easier. But you'll be able to do it.

0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 1>You'll do it. You'll get it done if you want to.

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna get through it.

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 1>But you will.

0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I'll see if I survive.

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 1>You'll survive, you won't die. I mean, how much that

0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>are we talking? How much? Dad, are you going to

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:51.080
<v Speaker 1>go into.

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:57.919
<v Speaker 3>Right now? We're like just a couple of thousand, maybe

0:56:57.960 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 3>like four or five thousand.

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Did you go to college?

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm majoring in film at my local community college.

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you paying to be there?

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're not paying to be there? Okay. I mean, listen,

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 1>people go into debt for fucking way more money than

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a few thousand bucks to do dumber shit at college.

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>So consider this in a similar sense of you're going

0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 1>into debt to receive an education type of vibes. Because

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I always say to people who go to these like

0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>big fancy film schools and everything, it's like, you know,

0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you spent a few thousand bucks to actually

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 1>go and make a movie, And there are people out

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 1>there who are spending eighty times what you just spent

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to sit and learn about fucking Stanley Kubrick in a classroom.

0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't help them do anything. So I would think

0:57:57.200 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 1>about it from that perspective.

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a good point.

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Getting an education.

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess some kind of I guess like the

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 3>experience that I've had so far as invaluable. You know,

0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 3>had to present myself in this professional manner when I'm

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 3>out here interviewing actors and hosting auditions and working with

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 3>my crew, and that's like stuff that that's big time stuff.

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I have goals that I'm trying to get to and

0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:31.440
<v Speaker 3>like I said, I can't think I can't think small,

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 3>so there's always big goals. So this is like that's

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.880
<v Speaker 3>like something that I talked to my with my therapist

0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 3>about like how how the experience is invaluable and that's

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 3>what I should be focusing on the experience. But I

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 3>just can't get out of my head that this project

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 3>isn't going to come together like I wanted to.

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I've sunk money and time and ship into this is

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 1>by the way, this is why I quit making films

0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and why I like doing what I do on the Internet,

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:06.280
<v Speaker 1>which is like very quick short stuff and maybe after

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and maybe and and you know, you have to go

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:11.680
<v Speaker 1>through the experience of trying to make a feature length

0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 1>film or some shit like that to really gain this perspective.

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Like and that's why I say you're getting an education.

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Is part of dude. Part of embarking on like a

0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 1>long project is realizing that it might not come out

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the way you wanted it to. And I remember being

0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 1>in a situation where I was afraid of that. And

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, if it happens, it's fine. This is

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:37.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be the like unless if you, if you,

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want it to, this will not be

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the last thing that you make creatively, you know, So

0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>don't don't go in here thinking this is the last

0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 1>thing you'll ever do. If you, if I had to

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:52.360
<v Speaker 1>give you some sort of you know, mindset thing that

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you can use right now, it would be that this

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 1>is not the last project you'll ever embark upon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I get that, But at the same time, like

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I care about this project. I put a lot of

1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 3>time into it, and I you know, like I want

1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:09.040
<v Speaker 3>it to be good. I want people to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even get people to follow my TikTok like like,

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:19.040
<v Speaker 3>and I'm worried about like if I try to go

1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:21.600
<v Speaker 3>for like a festival gun if it's good even going

1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:24.560
<v Speaker 3>to get in because that's more money. And maybe I'm

1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:27.280
<v Speaker 3>just like I'm too far ahead of where I'm supposed

1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:29.040
<v Speaker 3>to be at right now. Maybe it's just just focused

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<v Speaker 3>on in the moment of trying to get the thing done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, please do that. Focus on the moment of trying

1:00:33.880 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to get the thing done. Don't worry about the festival run,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about any of this shit. This is not

1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the last movie you'll make. Look at this as a

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<v Speaker 1>as an education because that's what it is. Okay, charge

1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it to the game as they say, Yeah, what's your take?

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<v Speaker 3>My TikTok? Is this that cinema?

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<v Speaker 1>This d cinema? Okay, I'll check it out. Anything else

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<v Speaker 1>you want to say to other people with the computer before

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<v Speaker 1>we go, Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh no this thank you for your time. You're a

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<v Speaker 3>hard lizard to reach, so I'm glad I was able

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<v Speaker 3>to get through to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. Uh thank you for connes. I appreciate you,

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<v Speaker 1>and good luck with the film.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, thank you bye.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the sunk cost fallacy which I might fall

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<v Speaker 1>victim to all the time, I fell in victim to

1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it in the same way that Isaiah has with making

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<v Speaker 1>movies and shit. You sink a bunch of time and

1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of money into something and it becomes a

1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:51.400
<v Speaker 1>big fucking ball of chain around your around your your leg.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get where Isaiah's coming from, because I'm not again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking to Isaiah in a retrospective. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Isaiah in the height of his emotions surrounding this project.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been there before. And if I heard what

1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I just told Isaiah in the height of the emotion,

1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be recepted to it either. But I'm fucking

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<v Speaker 1>telling Isaiah, you will eventually you will enter. You will

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<v Speaker 1>eventually you will exit this. You will be older, time

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<v Speaker 1>will pass, you will complete the project, and you'll look

1:02:25.600 --> 1:02:27.440
<v Speaker 1>back and you'll go, oh, yes, that was an education.

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<v Speaker 1>And with all this festivals and getting people to actually

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<v Speaker 1>watch the thing and building an audience like you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>those are not gates that are closed to you because

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<v Speaker 1>your one project didn't work out. There's there's many opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>ahead for Isaiah. This that cinema. I'll check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for calling. Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 8>Hello, Oh my goodness, Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your life like?

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<v Speaker 8>It's pretty good right now. I just recently moved. He's

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<v Speaker 8>been getting Betty.

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<v Speaker 1>What where did you recently move to?

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<v Speaker 8>I moved to Michigan from Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>This is weird, but I feel like those are the

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<v Speaker 1>same place, right, I mean not really.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't move to like a big city or anything.

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<v Speaker 8>I moved like from a big city to a little

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<v Speaker 8>small town.

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<v Speaker 1>In my mind, I don't care about I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>where stuff is. Like I think like Saudi Arabia and

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado to me are in the same place. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>make sense? I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's all subjective.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything in particular you want to talk about today? Valerie,

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay. If not, it is Valerie of val Kyrie.

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<v Speaker 8>It's Valkyrie.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a fake name or is that a real name?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm a sex worker, so it's my like fake name.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, cool? Cool? What's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 8>Valchorim? But so I have like I have been like

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<v Speaker 8>a strange for my family. I all my family lives

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<v Speaker 8>down in Florida, except for my immediate family lived up

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<v Speaker 8>in Michigan here for a couple of years. It's up

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<v Speaker 8>until a couple years ago, sorry, and ever since they

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<v Speaker 8>like moved away, Like I try to reach out to

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<v Speaker 8>them and like meet up and stuff or just like

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<v Speaker 8>call them or whatever, and no one ever really like

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<v Speaker 8>answers my calls or will respond to my text and

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<v Speaker 8>it like kind of hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm. How long have you been a strange from them for?

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<v Speaker 8>It's going on like three years now?

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<v Speaker 1>Three years? What did did something happen three years ago

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<v Speaker 1>that was like the inciting incident to this?

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<v Speaker 8>Not really, I just turned eighteen three years ago and

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<v Speaker 8>then I moved out, like as you do. And then

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<v Speaker 8>ever since, it's been like such a pain in the butt,

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<v Speaker 8>Like try and get a hold of them.

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<v Speaker 1>What about your brothers and sisters if you have any.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm the oldest of six, but all of them except

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<v Speaker 8>for one of them, are under the age of twelve,

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<v Speaker 8>so they're really little.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh wow, So that's a that's a pretty huge

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<v Speaker 1>age gap. Yeah, between you and five other kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I used the one like raised.

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<v Speaker 8>The one that's over twelve is my younger brother.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Ethan, and how old too?

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<v Speaker 8>He is nineteen now?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's nineteen, okay, so he's pretty similar in age

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<v Speaker 1>to you are. Are you in touch with him?

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<v Speaker 8>Not really. We never really got along like growing up

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<v Speaker 8>because I don't know, we just like butted heads a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>But he doesn't ever really like use his phone either,

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<v Speaker 8>so I wouldn't even like try to.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's mainly your family members who aren't answering your calls.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, or text or anything. Like my dad just bought

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<v Speaker 8>a house and I asked him about it and he

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<v Speaker 8>just sent me the Zillow link with like no nothing

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<v Speaker 8>after that, and this little link had nothing on it

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<v Speaker 8>because the house to be sold.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird. So it's not a complete and utter ghosting. They

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<v Speaker 1>are still giving you some low forms of community, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like Zilo links exactly.

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<v Speaker 8>It's all like half assed so because they have like

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<v Speaker 8>their whole family group chat that I've asked to be

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<v Speaker 8>a part of and they won't.

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<v Speaker 7>Like put me in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, man, that's a tough that must be as a

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<v Speaker 1>tough feeling. That's a tough thing to deal with. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it is that they why do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it is that they are being so dismissive of you?

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<v Speaker 8>I have the idea I think it's like, because I

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<v Speaker 8>won't move down to Florida with them, I think they

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<v Speaker 8>all kind of resent me for that. Every time I

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<v Speaker 8>go down there to visit, they all that's all they're

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<v Speaker 8>really talking me about. But I hate Florida. It's not

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<v Speaker 8>a great place to live.

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<v Speaker 4>So I still visit.

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<v Speaker 8>Like once every three months. I don't see why.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that they don't want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you because you won't go down to Florida? Are have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever gone in the past three years? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>gone there at least to visit?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I've been to Florida like twice this year already,

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<v Speaker 8>and four times in the last six months.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not not to visit, just the state. But have

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<v Speaker 1>you gone to visit your family when you were there

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<v Speaker 1>these this year?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's all I ever go down there for.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, So you have had contact with him in

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<v Speaker 1>the past three years.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they just like don't text me back, Like as

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<v Speaker 8>soon as I come up here, it's like I'm dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah okay, all right, but when you okay, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>not estranged from them though, when you go down there,

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<v Speaker 1>you see them.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but that's the only time I ever get anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Do when you go down there and you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>them in person, do you tell them that you feel

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<v Speaker 1>isolated when you're out of town. I do, actually, And

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<v Speaker 1>what do they say?

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<v Speaker 8>They kind of like, well, my dad, who is my

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<v Speaker 8>main problem, He doesn't really like say anything at all.

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<v Speaker 8>He just like kind of huff and then we'll move

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<v Speaker 8>on to something else. But the rest of my family

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<v Speaker 8>like kind of apologizes and says they'll do better, and

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<v Speaker 8>then like nothing ever comes from it.

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<v Speaker 1>M what's the rest of your life?

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<v Speaker 8>Like, well, I just recently broke up with ex boyfriend

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<v Speaker 8>and I moved back to Michigan just because I missed

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<v Speaker 8>all my friends and stuff. I didn't really have a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of friends out in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're living your life, You're hanging out and

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<v Speaker 1>you said you're in Michigan, right, You moved from Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>to Michigan, which are both, yeah, the same. They're about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty miles away from each other. And you have your own,

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<v Speaker 1>your own life in Michigan that you forged for yourself

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the little circle in Florida where you have

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<v Speaker 1>your friends and associates. And I assume maybe you even

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<v Speaker 1>have a job there. I know everyone's kind of working

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<v Speaker 1>from home. But you have favorite restaurants in Michigan, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a fucking Maleman. You have a life that you've

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<v Speaker 1>built for yourself that you can put a little flag

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<v Speaker 1>on and lay claim too. Is that accurate?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, And I think that you, as your own independent

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<v Speaker 1>human being on this earth, should take pride in that life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry to hear that your family is not

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<v Speaker 1>is not as proud of you for that as they

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<v Speaker 1>should be. It's good that you're trying to keep contact

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<v Speaker 1>with them, but at the end of the day, think

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<v Speaker 1>it's good that you ventured out of the Florida circle

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<v Speaker 1>to do your own thing, because what people should do, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good that you come.

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<v Speaker 8>Down a lot in the what do you.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you seeing in the chat? Don't I tell

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<v Speaker 1>people not to look at chat? What are you seeing

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<v Speaker 1>in the chat?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm seeing a lot of like anti sex work stuff and.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what what's your what's your Vaca valcoy, don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>read the chat? Okay, tell me, tell me what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to say.

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<v Speaker 8>Anyway, it just doesn't have My family is all actually

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<v Speaker 8>super accepting about what I do. So that's definitely not that.

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<v Speaker 8>I just think it's more of a weird like communications

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<v Speaker 8>like communications things they want you.

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<v Speaker 1>Down in Florida. It's the opposite of that. I assume

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<v Speaker 1>people in the chat are thinking that they're shunning you

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<v Speaker 1>because of sex work, but that's not what they want

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<v Speaker 1>you down in Florida.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we've established you, you've built your own life

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<v Speaker 1>with its own flag in Michigan, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>good that you're continuing to make trips down to Florida

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<v Speaker 1>because it sounds like family is important to you, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also important to you to have your own life.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I know that you're experiencing issues with this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sounds like you're doing like a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>job of balance.

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<v Speaker 8>Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you go home, you said three times a year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you said you've been home two times in

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<v Speaker 1>this past year.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty damn good man. I know people here in

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<v Speaker 1>California who go home, you know, once every seven thousand years,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're doing pretty good. Thank you, Valkerrie. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything else you want to say to the people of

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<v Speaker 1>the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 8>Not really, honestly, thank you for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, thank you for calling. I hope that this

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<v Speaker 1>was of something. I hope this felt productive, this was productive.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Good have a good night, Valkyrie, you as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't. I don't I understand why she why

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't want to go down to Florida. Florida sucks. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. You know why I said that.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that just now because a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>people have said that Florida sucks, and I am parating

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<v Speaker 1>their opinions. I've been to Florida multiple times, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, It's fine. I shouldn't have said it sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just saying that because I wanted to say

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<v Speaker 1>something about a place because it feels good. That's why.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why people do it. This is why people

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<v Speaker 1>say things like Florida sucks, Texas is awful, Connecticut is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>They do it because it's not because they really believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it feels good to say that, to have negative emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cathartic. The Ranger suck ah, fucking Miami heat fuck ah.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels good. It presnds chemicals to the brain of happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>To be mad at something that has not has no

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<v Speaker 1>sentience at all and doesn't care about you and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I did it just now and I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 8>Really goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 7>The recon goes to his d he's teaching you Cloud

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<v Speaker 7>in the Memorial Life, but he's not read an expert