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Speaker 1: Guys, listen to this. Charlie twenty years old from North

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Speaker 1: years old from North Carolina is known as the Hawaiian

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Speaker 1: shirt guy, but feels like he is more than that.

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Speaker 1: Is that not the greatest premise of a phone call

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Speaker 2: GEX Hello, hey, GEX, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing okay, I'm hanging out, I'm being a get go,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to people on the phone. What's going on

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Speaker 1: with you?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's the summertime, and in the summertime, I

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Speaker 2: like to wear Hawaiian shirts. Well, actually I like to

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Speaker 2: wear Hawaian shirts anytime I can't back at school. I

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Speaker 2: wear Hawaiian shirts almost every day, just because I like

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Speaker 2: how to look. I have three main reasons for liking them.

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Speaker 2: I like the patterns, and I like the like fabric.

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Speaker 2: But I also like not wearing a shirt. And I

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Speaker 2: feel like whenever you're wearing a Hawaian shirt, you can

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Speaker 1: This is absolutely fascinating Charlie. It says here that you

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Speaker 1: are known around town as the Hawaiian shirt guy, but

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Speaker 1: but you feel like you are more than that.

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Speaker 2: I believe that I cannot be because you're just thinking.

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Speaker 2: If someone walks around every day and wears a T shirt,

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Speaker 2: but because it's a Hawaiian shirt, it's like, oh, this guy,

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Speaker 2: this guy is just that dude, he's the Hawaiian shirt guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm just a guy wearing clothes because it feels.

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Speaker 3: Good, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You say you feel like you are more than just

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Speaker 1: the Hawaiian shirt guy. When you are describing what more

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Speaker 1: you are? What more are you? Hmmm?

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Speaker 4: That's a.

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Speaker 5: That's a good question.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. I think I think I'm somewhat

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Speaker 2: studying comedy. I studied standing up. Oh yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, go ahead, you finished first, then I'll give

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Speaker 2: I think I'm a I think that I'm just h

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Speaker 2: and all around good dude that just likes to just

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Speaker 2: likes to be silly. I'm not silly. I like to

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Speaker 1: Can I bring up an idea to you and I

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're upset that people know you as the Hawaiian

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Speaker 1: Shirt guy because you believe that there's more to you

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Speaker 1: to see you as funny. You want people to see

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Speaker 1: you as silly, as entertaining. And what if I told

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Speaker 1: you that. I think that within the perception of you

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Speaker 1: as the Hawaiian Shirt Guy lies all of those things.

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Speaker 1: Being funny, being silly, being entertaining is part of the

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Speaker 1: identity of you as the Hawaiian Shirt Guy. So in reality, well,

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Speaker 1: here's the people perceiving you as the Hawaiian Shirt Guy.

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Speaker 1: Is them perceiving you as all those things?

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Speaker 2: I agree? But I feel like sometimes people only see

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Speaker 2: me that when I'm in the Hawaiian shirt Like, for instance,

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Speaker 2: I went to class one day, I go and I

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Speaker 2: I was just wearing like a polo because I thought

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Speaker 2: are you all right? Doesn't seem like you're doing okage?

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Speaker 2: And I was like why and they said, well, you're

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Speaker 2: set me off. That's what I thought to myself. Hold up, now,

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Speaker 2: am I just that guide to them?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Am I the guy that always wears a warn shirts?

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Speaker 2: Is that with TV as.

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Speaker 1: What's your name?

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Speaker 6: Charlie?

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Speaker 1: Charlie? I think that you need to be less worried

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. I feel like I feel like

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Speaker 2: I feel like that if you came in on a

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Speaker 5: I don't know, just throwing that out there just might.

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Speaker 1: Also. Look, here's another thing. If you're going around telling

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Speaker 1: wearing a Hawaiian today, Oh no, Hawaiian guy. True, You're

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Speaker 2: Here, So then I should I shouldn't pitch it, but

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't not wear it. You know, I can still

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Speaker 3: I can be.

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Speaker 2: Comfortable with it. I just don't have to like spread

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Speaker 2: I don't have to spread the word of Hawaiian shirtness

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Speaker 1: I knew when I picked up this phone call that

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Speaker 1: we were gonna hash out some very complex character development,

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Speaker 1: and I'm so glad that I was right.

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Speaker 3: Dude, this is this is so cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm really vibing with this right now because you know what,

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Speaker 2: I've been like thinking to myself, because I've been listening

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Speaker 2: to so many of your videos, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: With DECI, Charlie, you love wearing Hawaiian shirts.

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Speaker 2: I love wearing Hawaiian shirts. And honestly, if you give

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Speaker 1: You'd wear Hawaiian pants, Oh, you said, Lae, Charlie, you

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Speaker 1: know what? I why the way? I have another I

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Speaker 1: have another solution for you. I have another solution for you. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: move to Hawaii because there everyone's the Hawaiian shirt guy.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't know if that's true. I don't know

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Speaker 5: Guy, you know what that means.

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Speaker 1: You know what that means, Charlie, No one. That means

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Speaker 1: no one's the Hawaiian shirt guy. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: you should be taking that drastic measures, Charlie. I think

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Speaker 1: you should just do what you do when you live

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Speaker 1: as much. That's my fine answer to you on this subject.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's I think that's the best answer

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Speaker 2: that I've heard, given you're the only really talk to

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Speaker 1: Are you afraid to talk to other people about this?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: I mean like it's not a real subject. You can't

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Speaker 2: like how people come with a Warine shirt guy, because

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? This is not a real subject.

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Speaker 1: This is as real of a subject as it gets.

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Speaker 1: This is a very like I know you're fucking around,

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Speaker 1: but this is a manifestation of you caring about other

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Speaker 1: deals with. This is it's an extremely common human struggle.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not I wouldn't say that this is not

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Speaker 2: I guess, like when someone says something to me, like like,

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Speaker 2: I kind of just play along. I'm like, oh ha ha, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know I should have worn one.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, but should I have?

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Speaker 2: Like, you don't have to like tell me what to wear, Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you learned something from this call? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Man, I learned about self love or something to that extent.

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Speaker 1: That's good enough anything else. When I say to the

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Speaker 2: Go, uh, enjoy your enjoy yourself this summer. Wear whatever

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Speaker 3: It's nice.

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Speaker 1: Now, thank you for calling Charlie.

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Speaker 2: All right, love you, bud.

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Speaker 1: I See, I knew that was going to be a

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Speaker 1: which is the most important thing, that he is more

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Speaker 4: Yes it is hello, mister and wild get go going

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Speaker 4: on with you? Kat having some relationship struggles, kind.

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Speaker 1: Of what kind of relationship struggles.

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Speaker 4: So back in February, I met this girl. She was

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Speaker 4: It's been a lot to think about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm going to say what the call screeners said,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just really you know this is what

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Speaker 1: you're seeing a new girl. You said this new girl

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Speaker 1: What does that mean. I'm more than worried that she's

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Speaker 4: I'm more just like a rebound relationship, and like, I

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Speaker 1: Sure, interesting you are, You're okay, you're having conflicting feelings

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Speaker 1: dating your old girlfriend for?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Three months?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Three months? And ends? Was that your first time

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 4: First time? I'm like a I'm like a serious relationship,

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Speaker 4: Like it was like both of ours, like like there

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Speaker 1: You know, Hm, what is it that you like about

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Speaker 1: this new parson?

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Speaker 4: We both have autism? And so they kind of like

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Speaker 4: understand they us, like I called my girlfriend of the day,

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Speaker 4: who's the apprentance, But like they're really understanding for when

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Speaker 4: I have like like mental health stuff. They're really smart

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Speaker 4: and just like it's really like they're like emotionally mature.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and.

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Speaker 4: We just like really clicked.

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Speaker 5: I guess, mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this person you said that they're a non

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Speaker 1: Yes, you have a lot going on. You have like

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Speaker 1: Actually, what's your name?

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Speaker 5: Cat?

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Speaker 4: Don't let other people tell you how to live your

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Speaker 7: Hello, what's up?

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Speaker 7: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: How can I get you today?

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Speaker 7: Well? I don't know. You've probably read the promise, but

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Speaker 7: Yeah? You're in my car? I No, you're you're actually

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Speaker 7: So I shared a room with my brother since I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there were multiple places and where they could have

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Speaker 1: Why you need to confront with I'm like angry for

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Speaker 7: I'm like, it's because you you scarred me from when

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Speaker 7: but maybe they're not.

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00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: Do you think it worked.

446
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 7: I'd consider myself tough, I guess, but I'm also pretty

447
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 7: emotionally absent. I've always struggled having emotions.

448
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: And you think that that might have something to do

449
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: with the ceiling fan near the top bunk.

450
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 7: I think there's probably more to do with it than that,

451
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 7: but I think that that probably didn't help.

452
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 8: No.

453
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: A thousand of different places you could put the bunk bed.

454
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why they would put it under the

455
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 1: ceiling fan. And I'm so glad that you called in

456
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: and that we could talk about this, because I haven't

457
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: thought about this in a while. I've been in several

458
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: rooms where it's weird. This is a recurring phenomenon, and

459
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's other people in the chat and

460
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: people listening to this that have experienced this as well,

461
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: and we can all kind of collectively gather in frustration.

462
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: Why did this thing that didn't need to happen happen?

463
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.

464
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: Well, I hope you overcome this. I'm rooting for you,

465
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: and I hope that your confrontation with your parents is

466
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: helpful to you in overcoming this.

467
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you.

468
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: Anything else I want to say to the people of

469
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: the computer before we go, Jared, No, not.

470
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 7: Really, just I love what you do. I listen to

471
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 7: everything that you've put out so far, and I love it.

472
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 7: I listen to it at work all the time, and

473
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 7: I just appreciate what you do.

474
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: And thank you, Jed.

475
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 7: People out helps me out a lot.

476
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jared, I appreciate that man. Thank you for calling.

477
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 7: Yep, thank you.

478
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: God. What a strange memory that Jared's brought back from

479
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: me and for possibly a lot of people listening, I understand.

480
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: And in certain floor plans where the ceiling fan is

481
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: so centered and the bunk bed is big, where like

482
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: maybe an edge of it is there, but it feels

483
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: like an avoidable problem. So there is weight to the

484
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: idea that it was done intentionally, and I hope if

485
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: it was, it was done for good reasons that I

486
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: can't think of right now as to what those reasons

487
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: could be. But maybe Jared will call back and we'll

488
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: get an answer. Hello, Hello, high sus Jake.

489
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 5: Ah, Yes, this is Jake.

490
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: Well what now?

491
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 6: Uh?

492
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 5: I'm assuming this is gek.

493
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: This is you know what? This is somebody that you

494
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: are on the phone with and you are on the

495
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: phone and I am on the phone. What do we do? Now?

496
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Where do we go from here? Jake? Tell me?

497
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, I believe we talk. Okay, what

498
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: I wanted to talk about spitting in food at a

499
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: fast food restaurant?

500
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Speaker 1: Okay, you wanted to talk about spitting and food at

501
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: fast food restaurants? And uh, please elaborate. I would love

502
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: to hear more about this. Uh.

503
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 5: Well, I work at Chick fil A in Wyoming, so

504
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 5: there's there's nothing here, and you know, we we occasionally

505
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 5: get quote unquote Karen spitting their food. Yeah, but we

506
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: have to say a prayer first, Uh, considering it's Chick

507
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: fil A.

508
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're telling me that you work at a

509
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: Chick fil a and Wyoming you occasionally get quote unquote

510
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: Karen's and when you do, you spin in there. Yeah, okay,

511
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: tell me about something a person did to make you

512
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: want to spit in their food.

513
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 5: Well, I've worked, I've worked in the kitchen and the

514
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 5: in the front, and I got I got slapped by

515
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 5: a customer once and uh, she threw her drink at

516
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 5: me and we still we still served her. And uh

517
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 5: that that that would be the first time I spit

518
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 5: in some of these foods.

519
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: She slapped you. Why did she slap you? How did

520
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: the situation escalate to that point?

521
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 5: Uh? You know, I took I took her order and

522
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 5: we we ran out of waffle fries very very early

523
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 5: in the in the morning.

524
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: You ran out of waffle fries, and so she slapped you.

525
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 5: Yeah? Really, yeah, Yeah, that that was it. It was.

526
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: It was a nice slap though. If I if I

527
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: had to rate it, I'd probably put it up there seven.

528
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Telling me and you know, listen, here's the thing is,

529
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: I I don't I don't have your job, so maybe

530
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm not as keyed into you know how intense people

531
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: can get over nothing. Maybe I don't have as much

532
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: of a barometer on that as you do, But you're

533
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: telling me there really is nothing else that happened in

534
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: this situation. You said, you are telling me that it

535
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: went like this. You said, she said I would like

536
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: fucking chicken sandwiches and waffle fries. You said, sorry, man,

537
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: we're out of waffle fries, and then she slaps you

538
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: across the face. You're telling me that's how it happens.

539
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 5: Uh, Well, you know, she she said that how could

540
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 5: we be out of waffle fries? That I made a

541
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: careless mistake, and I told her that, you know, I

542
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 5: had nothing to do with the waffle fry situation and

543
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: received a slap.

544
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: You received us, and you served her anyway.

545
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: We yeah, my my manager had us serve her. So

546
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: that that's what started this apocalyptic.

547
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: Because you know, look right when she slaps you, I

548
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: think that's that's what it's time to possibly get the

549
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: authorities involved and and get her on down to uh,

550
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, booked for assaults.

551
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 5: Well, it's Wyoming, so I'm sure I'm sure came out.

552
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: Well what does that mean? It's wyoming?

553
00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 5: So, well, it's it's you know, there's there's nothing that

554
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: goes on here. It's it's a bunch of small towns

555
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 5: and you know, a crazy occasional hillbillies come in. You know,

556
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 5: they might pee on the floor, and uh they might not.

557
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: Do they not have societal infrastructure in Wyoming? I wouldn't

558
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: be surprised if the answer is.

559
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: Yes, I wanna. I want to say yes, but I

560
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: feel like there there might be some parts in Wyoming

561
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 5: that do so.

562
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, what's your name, Jake? Jake? Do you desire

563
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: to get out of Wyoming? Do you see more for yourself?

564
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 5: I do see. I do seem more more for myself.

565
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 5: I don't think you think Wyoming is the place for me.

566
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 5: I see, I see, I see a future in in

567
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 5: maybe a bigger city, someplace like Chicago, maybe maybe you know,

568
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 5: somewhere in Arizona like Phoenix. Uh she kind of kind

569
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 5: of living living a somewhat better life.

570
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: What does a better life look like to you?

571
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 5: You know, not getting not getting slapped over waffle fries?

572
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 5: I think I think that's stuck with me pretty pretty

573
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 5: pretty hard.

574
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I see that for you too, Jake.

575
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: I think that there are better there's a better future

576
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: ahead for you that doesn't involve getting slapped over waffle fries.

577
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm still shocked that this woman. How old was she?

578
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: Do you think?

579
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 5: Uh? Late late forties, early fifties, late probably fifties.

580
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: Let's you know what's crazy to me about people like

581
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: that is this woman's in her fifties. This woman's in

582
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: her fifties and she's still acting. I mean, if the

583
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: story is as you told it, and she slapped you

584
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: all out of waffle fries, that means that it's been

585
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: fifty years and this woman acting like this. Fifty years

586
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: is a long time. And whenever I see like an

587
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: old angry person, I always think, like, man, what kind

588
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: of fucking carnage must have gone on in this woman's life? Like,

589
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: what's the worst thing this woman's ever done? It must

590
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: have been insane if she's out here slapping people for

591
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: waffle from its like what she's doing to her family?

592
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: What's her situation like with you know, all the people

593
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: that she comes to contact with over her fifty years

594
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: on earth.

595
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: You know, I never never really thought of that aspect.

596
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: I'm she could have she could have been happened, you know,

597
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: an off day, something horrible could have happened too. That

598
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: doesn't That doesn't excuse the slap. It was a very

599
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 5: hard slap. My eyes watered up a little.

600
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: Now, of course, it doesn't excuse the slap. I'm just

601
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: thinking about it, not even I'm not even thinking about

602
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: it in terms of creating a sympathetic tone. I'm just

603
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: thinking about it in terms of, like, you know, I'm

604
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: aghast at the fact that she's been alive for fifty years,

605
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: like probably slapping people over miscellaneous bullshit all the time.

606
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: Like that's a crazy, that's a crazy. How do you

607
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: live to fifty like that? That's wild? I don't understand.

608
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, she she was the stereotypical you know, Karen.

609
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 5: She she had the the bob cut, and she she

610
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 5: just seemed angry. I feel like, I feel like even

611
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: even at the start, she wanted to start start a problem,

612
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: CAUs an issue. It was in coming of her voice.

613
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, what is it? Okay, before

614
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: we go, what is it? And you said you want

615
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: to move to a big city. What do you want

616
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: to do in this big city.

617
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 5: I want to I want to become something. I want

618
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 5: to be more than what I am now.

619
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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hmm. I'm gonna tell I'm gonna give you

620
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: an unpopular maybe this is unpopular who I don't know,

621
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: But I don't think you should have spat in that

622
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: lady's food. I think that, you know. Look, I'm not

623
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: gonna say whether or not she she deserved it, but

624
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that whether or not she deserved it

625
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: is irrelevant. You know, because you, Jake, you have aspirations

626
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: to get out of stupid Wyoming and to, as you say,

627
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: make something of yourself. And I don't want you wasting

628
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: a single second of your beautiful, precious mind power devising

629
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: plans and performing actions that whose sole purpose are to

630
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: enact revenge and spite upon people, because you, I think

631
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: you're better than that. And it's again, it's not a

632
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: question of whether or not this lady deserved it or

633
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: anything like that. It's a question of what are you

634
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: reserving your brain power and energy for. And I hope

635
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: that you're reserving it for thinking of ways to get

636
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: the fuck out of Wyoming and, as you say, make

637
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: something better for yourself. And I hope that because you

638
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: you gave a vague answer when you say make something

639
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: better of yourself, it's a little vague. Take a second.

640
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: Take a second to think about what that actually means,

641
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: you know what, because if you don't aim at anything,

642
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: if you don't, I don't believe in manifesting in this

643
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: way of if you wish it, you will get it.

644
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: But I believe it in a sense of you have

645
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: to think of something, even if it's a vague idea

646
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: of something, and then you'll you'll be on a path

647
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: toward that. Does that make sense?

648
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it really, it really does make sense. I

649
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: have to thank you for your for your advice.

650
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: Of course, thank you for Hey, you know what, you

651
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: know what, Jake, my pleasure.

652
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 5: Ah, I don't like you anymore, Lole.

653
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: It was a Chick fil A reference, It was.

654
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 5: It was a Chick fil A reference.

655
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon, Jake.

656
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 5: Yep, have a good one.

657
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 6: Mode.

658
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: Hello.

659
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 6: Hello, Hi?

660
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Is this Amanda? Yes?

661
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 8: Is this a get?

662
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: Yes? This is the get? What's going on with you? Amanda?

663
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Speaker 6: Oh my god?

664
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Speaker 4: And I expect to get on.

665
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 6: I have I'm calling because I have COVID.

666
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: You're calling because you have COVID?

667
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

668
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, what's that like?

669
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 6: What's my second time having it? I'm actually vaccinated? This time.

670
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 6: So it's a lot less bad, but I'm very confused.

671
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: Okay, what have you been doing since you've been How

672
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: long have you had COVID for.

673
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 6: I had tested positive yesterday and I have not stopped

674
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 6: playing Animal Crossing since.

675
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've been playing a lot of Animal Crossing. Well,

676
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: it says here that you're trying to forgure out what

677
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: to do with your time because you were quote partying

678
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: every day and now you can't do that. Yes, well,

679
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: this doesn't sound like it's going to be a long

680
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: call because you found a solution. You've started playing Animal Crossing.

681
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I can't I get bored if I

682
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 6: plan crossing for more than like an hour.

683
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: You don't get bored after going to partying for more

684
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: than an hour?

685
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 6: No, because there's stuff to do, tell people to talk

686
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 6: to when I go out.

687
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: You can talk to people on the computer. I'm doing

688
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: it right now.

689
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 6: I mean I am too, I guess or would you

690
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 6: call the phone call?

691
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: Well, no, I'd call this a party.

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Speaker 6: I like this party. I think this is a good party.

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Speaker 1: What do you do when you go to parties? Do

694
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Speaker 1: you walk? Or are you like a social person? Do

695
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: you just go up to a circle of people and go, hey, everyone,

696
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: what's going on? Type of thing.

697
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Speaker 6: I think it depends on my mood. But lately I've

698
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 6: been going out and dancing, like I went out to

699
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Speaker 6: a club. Actually that's the think that's where I got COVID.

700
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Speaker 6: I went out to this club and I started dancing

701
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Speaker 6: with a bunch of strangers. Obviously my friends were there too,

702
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 6: but it.

703
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Was just like.

704
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 6: I wound up getting hit on by a couple of

705
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 6: swingers while I was there.

706
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Speaker 1: So I guess that the sort of pre written, coded

707
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: world of animal crossing doesn't compare to the real world

708
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: that you've been living in for a while. But here's

709
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Speaker 1: what you do is take this as a as a

710
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: little breath, you know, be bored, really relish in your boredom,

711
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: because then when you get cured of your COVID, if

712
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: you make it and look, I don't know if you will,

713
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: but I hope you will. I'm Brian for you. Prayers.

714
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: No damn good at doing anything, but I'll do it anyway.

715
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: Actually I probably won't.

716
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Speaker 6: I appreciate this.

717
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: I probably won't pray for you. I'll probably gonna forget

718
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: after I get off the phone. Oh but you might

719
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: make it. And if you do be prepared, you know,

720
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: once you go out into the world, everything will be

721
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Speaker 1: even more exciting because you are bored for a little bit.

722
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Speaker 6: I mean, I guess that's a fair point, but it's

723
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 6: so hard to sit and be bored, Like I can't

724
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Speaker 6: even go get food, which is an easy one for

725
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 6: me to like preoccupie my time with, you know, play.

726
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: More animal crossing, get deeper into that, and like I said,

727
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: being relish in your own boredom, Amanda, because it's gonna

728
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: make everything a lot better when you're done. It's okay

729
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: to be bored. Think about it like this. For most

730
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: of uh the time that humanity has existed, humans have

731
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 1: been extremely bored. It was only into it was only

732
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: about ten years ago when we started being on our

733
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: phones all the time that it was unnatural to be

734
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: bored all the time. But before then, people were just

735
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: relentlessly bored for almost all of eternity up until recently.

736
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Speaker 1: So get back in touch with the roots of humanity

737
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: and just sort of sit and stare at a wall.

738
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Speaker 6: I feel like people back when they were bored all

739
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 6: the time could still like find things to do, like

740
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 6: that it were physically active but I can't breathe very well,

741
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 6: so I can't like go out for a run or

742
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 6: like do those things that be bored and active, you.

743
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, Like get yourself a yo yo, Amanda.

744
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 6: I don't know how to yo yo.

745
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: I've never been able to learn how.

746
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: To yoyo Amanda, Amanda. Were Look, I'm sitting here, I'm

747
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: giving you, you know, all these ideas, and I think

748
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: that you need to be open minded toward alternative ways

749
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: of keeping yourself occupied, or don't keep yourself occupied like

750
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and then don't even get the idea. Just

751
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: fucking stare at a wall and learn how to be

752
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: extremely bored. We always run into problems when we're fighting

753
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: these feelings that you have a feeling of boredom and

754
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: you're fighting it. You're trying to get it to go away.

755
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: But do the opposite, accept it, but embrace boredom into

756
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: your life. Hug it. Stare at the wall and think

757
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: to yourself, what a psychedelic experience I'm having right now,

758
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: being in a fucking meat sack on earth staring at

759
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: this fucking wall. This is amazing. I'm so honored, lucky

760
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: to feel bored in this very moment, right now, I

761
00:45:54,680 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: completely sober of sound, mind and body. AM in awe

762
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: of the psychedelic experience I am having right now staring

763
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: at this wall. I want that to be you, Amanda.

764
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: So I'm hanging up the phone. I want you to

765
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: go stare at the wall until you feel one with

766
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: the earth.

767
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 6: Okay, but before I stare at the wall, what color

768
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 6: yoyo should I get?

769
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: Don't get an yo yo. Stare at the wall. Talk

770
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: to you soon, Amanda. That's what I want for her.

771
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: I want that for her because wouldn't that be a

772
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: great place to be to not need a yo yo,

773
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: to not need animal crossing, to not need some guy

774
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: at a party talking to you, or some lights and

775
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: colors and just you in a wall. You look, if

776
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: you're placed in a situation where it says you and

777
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: a wall, you're gonna fight it. That's gonna be your instinct.

778
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna fight it. You're gonna go. I need to

779
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: look at my phone. I need to go on the computer.

780
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I need to jack off. I need to read a book.

781
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: I need to do something. I need to eat a snack.

782
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: Something that's gonna be it's your programming. But what if

783
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: you were higher than your programming and you really had

784
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: the superhuman ability to stare at a wall and make

785
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: it interesting for yourself. That would be a superpower that

786
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: I want Amanda that I don't have. I'm not going

787
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: to do it, but I want a Manda to do

788
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: it because I think that she can, and I think

789
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: it'll benefit her throughout her life to be able to

790
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: have the most fun anyone has ever had staring at

791
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: a wall. All right, next phone call, Hello, Hello, how

792
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: are you?

793
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm good? This is Lyle.

794
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, is this Isaiah?

795
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is crazy? Man?

796
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: What was going on with you? Isaiah?

797
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: I just kind of wanted to talk about this project

798
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 3: I've been working on.

799
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the project?

800
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: So a little backstory. I have a Type two bipolar

801
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: disorder OKAP, and when I was a bit of a

802
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: manic state, I started making a movie. I'm I'm a

803
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: film student and I wrote the script like a year ago.

804
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: But when I was in this manic state, I took

805
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: out a loan from a family member for a couple

806
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 3: thousand dollars and I've been working on this film for

807
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: the past maybe six to eight months. Since that manic state.

808
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: So you're saying, in a manic state you decided to

809
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: create a film.

810
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 3: Well, I already wanted to, but in a manic well

811
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: technically more of a hypomanic state, which is like a

812
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: less severe manic state. I started like actually working on it,

813
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: you know.

814
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you something. The work started

815
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: while you were in a manick state. But has the

816
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: work continued by you in all different kinds of states? Yes, okay?

817
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: And how has that work been?

818
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 3: Stressful? Man? Really up and down? Like it's by far

819
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: the hardiest thing I've ever had to do, and like,

820
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: and it's not going fantastic, but it's going you know.

821
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Before I was a gecko, back in

822
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: high school, I would make movies with my friends, just

823
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: by myself, independent production lot like what you're doing. And

824
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: it is to this day. I say this full sincerity.

825
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: The hardest thing I've ever had to do in my

826
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: life is make those fucking movies. It's fucking stressful and possible.

827
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: It's not a reasonable task to go and try to

828
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: make a movie. It sucks.

829
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 8: Yeah.

830
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your movie about? Okay?

831
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Speaker 3: My movie is about a thirteen year old boy who

832
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: kind of has a city home life with him and

833
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: his dad. So he decides that he's that He's like,

834
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: fuck it, I'm gonna become a serial killer. And he

835
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: goes out and he finds a victim, which is another

836
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: a thirteen year old girl that lives nearby, and he

837
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: tries to murder her, but in the process he ends

838
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: up getting his ass beat by her.

839
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Is it this is non I an autobiographical story?

840
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 5: Is it?

841
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: No? No, it is not. It's kind of It's just

842
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: kind of like a it's like an act comedy film.

843
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: That's nice. Always is a shorter feature.

844
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: It's a feature.

845
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: It's a feature. You're breaking on making a feature. How

846
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: long are we talking? This is like an hour and

847
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: a half long movie.

848
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 3: We're shooting for eighty ninety minutes.

849
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Eighty ninety minutes. Jesus, Okay, how many more stays of

850
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: shooting do you have left?

851
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 3: Right now? We have seven scheduled. I'm actually getting ready

852
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: for a shoot because we shoot in a few hours.

853
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: We have seven schedules, but we are behind schedule, so

854
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: we're probably going to have to pick up a few

855
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 3: more days.

856
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: You know, Isaiah, I'm I'm really proud of you. I know,

857
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: here's the thing I don't and people I feel like

858
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: this the stream and a lot lately people are, you know,

859
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: chalking a lot of things about themselves up to their

860
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: to their mental illnesses and whatnot. But give yourself credit.

861
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: I know you're just talking about like, oh, I started

862
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: this in a mental state, but inn in a manic state.

863
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, took a leap of faith. You decided to

864
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: embark on doing a really difficult fucking thing, making a

865
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: feature length movie. It's impossible, You're not supposed to do it.

866
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: You totally shouldn't have started. Get you started, and it's

867
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna be glad you did it. You're gonna

868
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: be glad you did it, even though it was fucking painful.

869
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: I know how it is to make these movies. It's

870
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: it's really hard, and I'm proud of you for taking

871
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: the leap to to go and do it, because a

872
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: lot of people they'll just have an idea for something

873
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: and they'll sit on it forever, and it takes a

874
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: lot to decide to actually go and do it.

875
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but can I can I kind of kind of

876
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: talk about kind of an issue I'm having with it? Yeah?

877
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: Please?

878
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: So I have this problem where I can't think the

879
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: small picture. I've always I always think big picture, and

880
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,240
Speaker 3: I've been working on this project lately and i can't

881
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: and it's just not coming together like it is in

882
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: my head. And it's very important. You know. I sat

883
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: down and I wrote this script because I had something

884
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: I wanted to say, and I think I communicated with

885
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: the script, but I'm worried that the picture, when it

886
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 3: comes together, isn't going to say what I'm trying to say,

887
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 3: if that makes any sense, Like it's not. It's like

888
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 3: we're running into problems. My cast is getting sick. I'm

889
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: running out of money, I'm already in thousands of dollars

890
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 3: with a debt, I will behind schedule, and it's just

891
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 3: becoming more and more problematic as things go on. And

892
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: on top of that, my image isn't coming out like

893
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: I wanted to when I talked to my I talked

894
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 3: to my actual therapist about this, and he tells me,

895
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: you know, just stick with it. You know, I say

896
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: I'm over budget, behind schedule. He says, that's what making

897
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: a movie is, you know. Yep, But it doesn't mean

898
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: it's any less stressful when it's coming from your pockets.

899
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: Yep. Uh yeah, going into once a debt it's expensive. Uh,

900
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: it's you having to wrangle the schedules of a shit

901
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: ton of people. It's you putting in a shit ton

902
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: of work and effort into something and then looking at

903
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: it on the screen and going, oh, fuck, this isn't

904
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: even what I set out to make. It's yeah, it's

905
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff. You're in film school, this

906
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: is your very first film, it's your first endeavor. And

907
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: actually all of this shit is great because you are

908
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: diving headfirst into the reality of making a movie, which

909
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: is all of these horrible things. And I'd say it's

910
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: great because it's it's keying you in to what this

911
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: experience is actually like and giving you a little moment

912
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: to go, do I really want to do this? And

913
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: if you at the end of your journey, once the

914
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: film is completed, once you're in the theater with the

915
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: premiere and you see it on the big screen and

916
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: you are in a retrospective about how you're feeling right now,

917
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: because you're feeling really stressed and shitty right now. But

918
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 1: eventually a day will come where you've wrapped and you

919
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: are looking back on this retrospectively, you'll know whether or

920
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: not you want to go do it again. And that's great, man,

921
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of people they don't even try.

922
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: They didn't even get to have the moment where they go,

923
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: I tried. This wasn't for me. They just go I

924
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: never tried. I just always thought about doing this, but

925
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: I never did it because they were afraid, and you

926
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: weren't afraid. You went and you did it. So I

927
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: think it's this is a valuable experience for you. I

928
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: don't know if you look at it like that. I honestly, like,

929
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to be in the middle

930
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: of making a fucking movie. And I can totally understand

931
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: if you're not thinking about it like that right now

932
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: because you're you're not in the retrospective of this. You

933
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: are in this. You don't have the perspective of being

934
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: out of it yet because you're still in it, but

935
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 1: eventually you will. Does that make sense, Yeah?

936
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 3: It does. But it's like, you know, I keep trying

937
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: to focus on all that stuff, but it doesn't make

938
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: it any easier, you know, And I'm.

939
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 6: Not going to.

940
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's nothing that I or you're real

941
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: therapist or any No. No, what you're doing is very

942
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: hard and stressful and kind of sucks, and it's not

943
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna get easier. But you'll be able to do it.

944
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: You'll do it. You'll get it done if you want to.

945
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna get through it.

946
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: But you will.

947
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 3: I'll see if I survive.

948
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: You'll survive, you won't die. I mean, how much that

949
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: are we talking? How much? Dad, are you going to

950
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: go into.

951
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 3: Right now? We're like just a couple of thousand, maybe

952
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: like four or five thousand.

953
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: Did you go to college?

954
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: I'm majoring in film at my local community college.

955
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: Okay, are you paying to be there?

956
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: No?

957
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: Okay, you're not paying to be there? Okay. I mean, listen,

958
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: people go into debt for fucking way more money than

959
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: a few thousand bucks to do dumber shit at college.

960
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: So consider this in a similar sense of you're going

961
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: into debt to receive an education type of vibes. Because

962
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: I always say to people who go to these like

963
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: big fancy film schools and everything, it's like, you know,

964
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you spent a few thousand bucks to actually

965
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: go and make a movie, And there are people out

966
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: there who are spending eighty times what you just spent

967
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: to sit and learn about fucking Stanley Kubrick in a classroom.

968
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't help them do anything. So I would think

969
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: about it from that perspective.

970
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good point.

971
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: Getting an education.

972
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess some kind of I guess like the

973
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: experience that I've had so far as invaluable. You know,

974
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: had to present myself in this professional manner when I'm

975
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: out here interviewing actors and hosting auditions and working with

976
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: my crew, and that's like stuff that that's big time stuff.

977
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 6: You know.

978
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: I have goals that I'm trying to get to and

979
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 3: like I said, I can't think I can't think small,

980
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 3: so there's always big goals. So this is like that's

981
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: like something that I talked to my with my therapist

982
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: about like how how the experience is invaluable and that's

983
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: what I should be focusing on the experience. But I

984
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: just can't get out of my head that this project

985
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: isn't going to come together like I wanted to.

986
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: I've sunk money and time and ship into this is

987
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: by the way, this is why I quit making films

988
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: and why I like doing what I do on the Internet,

989
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: which is like very quick short stuff and maybe after

990
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: and maybe and and you know, you have to go

991
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: through the experience of trying to make a feature length

992
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: film or some shit like that to really gain this perspective.

993
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: Like and that's why I say you're getting an education.

994
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: Is part of dude. Part of embarking on like a

995
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: long project is realizing that it might not come out

996
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: the way you wanted it to. And I remember being

997
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: in a situation where I was afraid of that. And

998
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if it happens, it's fine. This is

999
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: not gonna be the like unless if you, if you,

1000
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: if you don't want it to, this will not be

1001
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: the last thing that you make creatively, you know, So

1002
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: don't don't go in here thinking this is the last

1003
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: thing you'll ever do. If you, if I had to

1004
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: give you some sort of you know, mindset thing that

1005
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: you can use right now, it would be that this

1006
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: is not the last project you'll ever embark upon.

1007
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that, But at the same time, like

1008
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: I care about this project. I put a lot of

1009
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: time into it, and I you know, like I want

1010
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: it to be good. I want people to see it.

1011
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: I can't even get people to follow my TikTok like like,

1012
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 3: and I'm worried about like if I try to go

1013
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 3: for like a festival gun if it's good even going

1014
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: to get in because that's more money. And maybe I'm

1015
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: just like I'm too far ahead of where I'm supposed

1016
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: to be at right now. Maybe it's just just focused

1017
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 3: on in the moment of trying to get the thing done.

1018
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, please do that. Focus on the moment of trying

1019
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: to get the thing done. Don't worry about the festival run,

1020
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: don't worry about any of this shit. This is not

1021
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: the last movie you'll make. Look at this as a

1022
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: as an education because that's what it is. Okay, charge

1023
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: it to the game as they say, Yeah, what's your take?

1024
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 3: My TikTok? Is this that cinema?

1025
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: This d cinema? Okay, I'll check it out. Anything else

1026
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: you want to say to other people with the computer before

1027
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: we go, Isaiah.

1028
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 3: Uh no this thank you for your time. You're a

1029
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: hard lizard to reach, so I'm glad I was able

1030
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: to get through to you.

1031
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: Of course. Uh thank you for connes. I appreciate you,

1032
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: and good luck with the film.

1033
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: All right, thank you bye.

1034
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: This is the sunk cost fallacy which I might fall

1035
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: victim to all the time, I fell in victim to

1036
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: it in the same way that Isaiah has with making

1037
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: movies and shit. You sink a bunch of time and

1038
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of money into something and it becomes a

1039
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: big fucking ball of chain around your around your your leg.

1040
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 1: And I get where Isaiah's coming from, because I'm not again,

1041
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to Isaiah in a retrospective. I'm talking

1042
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: to Isaiah in the height of his emotions surrounding this project.

1043
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: And I've been there before. And if I heard what

1044
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: I just told Isaiah in the height of the emotion,

1045
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be recepted to it either. But I'm fucking

1046
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: telling Isaiah, you will eventually you will enter. You will

1047
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: eventually you will exit this. You will be older, time

1048
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: will pass, you will complete the project, and you'll look

1049
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: back and you'll go, oh, yes, that was an education.

1050
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: And with all this festivals and getting people to actually

1051
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: watch the thing and building an audience like you, you know,

1052
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: those are not gates that are closed to you because

1053
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: your one project didn't work out. There's there's many opportunities

1054
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: ahead for Isaiah. This that cinema. I'll check it out.

1055
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling. Isaiah.

1056
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 8: Hello, Oh my goodness, Hi.

1057
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: What's your life like?

1058
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 8: It's pretty good right now. I just recently moved. He's

1059
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 8: been getting Betty.

1060
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: What where did you recently move to?

1061
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 8: I moved to Michigan from Chicago.

1062
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: This is weird, but I feel like those are the

1063
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: same place, right, I mean not really.

1064
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 8: I didn't move to like a big city or anything.

1065
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 8: I moved like from a big city to a little

1066
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 8: small town.

1067
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: In my mind, I don't care about I don't care

1068
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: where stuff is. Like I think like Saudi Arabia and

1069
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: Colorado to me are in the same place. Does that

1070
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: make sense? I guess.

1071
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: I guess it's all subjective.

1072
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular you want to talk about today? Valerie,

1073
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: It's okay. If not, it is Valerie of val Kyrie.

1074
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 8: It's Valkyrie.

1075
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: Is that a fake name or is that a real name?

1076
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 8: Well, I'm a sex worker, so it's my like fake name.

1077
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: Oh okay, cool? Cool? What's going on with you?

1078
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 8: Valchorim? But so I have like I have been like

1079
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 8: a strange for my family. I all my family lives

1080
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 8: down in Florida, except for my immediate family lived up

1081
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 8: in Michigan here for a couple of years. It's up

1082
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 8: until a couple years ago, sorry, and ever since they

1083
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 8: like moved away, Like I try to reach out to

1084
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 8: them and like meet up and stuff or just like

1085
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 8: call them or whatever, and no one ever really like

1086
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 8: answers my calls or will respond to my text and

1087
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 8: it like kind of hurts.

1088
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: Hmmm. How long have you been a strange from them for?

1089
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 8: It's going on like three years now?

1090
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: Three years? What did did something happen three years ago

1091
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: that was like the inciting incident to this?

1092
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 8: Not really, I just turned eighteen three years ago and

1093
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 8: then I moved out, like as you do. And then

1094
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 8: ever since, it's been like such a pain in the butt,

1095
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 8: Like try and get a hold of them.

1096
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: What about your brothers and sisters if you have any.

1097
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 8: I'm the oldest of six, but all of them except

1098
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 8: for one of them, are under the age of twelve,

1099
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 8: so they're really little.

1100
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: Uh oh wow, So that's a that's a pretty huge

1101
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: age gap. Yeah, between you and five other kids.

1102
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 3: I used the one like raised.

1103
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 8: The one that's over twelve is my younger brother.

1104
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: His name is Ethan, and how old too?

1105
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 8: He is nineteen now?

1106
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: Okay, he's nineteen, okay, so he's pretty similar in age

1107
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: to you are. Are you in touch with him?

1108
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 8: Not really. We never really got along like growing up

1109
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 8: because I don't know, we just like butted heads a lot.

1110
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 8: But he doesn't ever really like use his phone either,

1111
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 8: so I wouldn't even like try to.

1112
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: So it's mainly your family members who aren't answering your calls.

1113
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, or text or anything. Like my dad just bought

1114
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 8: a house and I asked him about it and he

1115
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 8: just sent me the Zillow link with like no nothing

1116
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 8: after that, and this little link had nothing on it

1117
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 8: because the house to be sold.

1118
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: Weird. So it's not a complete and utter ghosting. They

1119
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: are still giving you some low forms of community, yes,

1120
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: like Zilo links exactly.

1121
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 8: It's all like half assed so because they have like

1122
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 8: their whole family group chat that I've asked to be

1123
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 8: a part of and they won't.

1124
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 7: Like put me in it.

1125
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: Ah, man, that's a tough that must be as a

1126
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: tough feeling. That's a tough thing to deal with. Why

1127
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: do you think it is that they why do you

1128
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: think it is that they are being so dismissive of you?

1129
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 8: I have the idea I think it's like, because I

1130
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 8: won't move down to Florida with them, I think they

1131
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 8: all kind of resent me for that. Every time I

1132
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 8: go down there to visit, they all that's all they're

1133
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 8: really talking me about. But I hate Florida. It's not

1134
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 8: a great place to live.

1135
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 4: So I still visit.

1136
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 8: Like once every three months. I don't see why.

1137
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 7: It's a big deal.

1138
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: Do you think that they don't want to talk to

1139
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: you because you won't go down to Florida? Are have

1140
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: you ever gone in the past three years? Have you

1141
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: gone there at least to visit?

1142
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been to Florida like twice this year already,

1143
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 8: and four times in the last six months.

1144
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: No, not not to visit, just the state. But have

1145
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: you gone to visit your family when you were there

1146
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: these this year?

1147
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's all I ever go down there for.

1148
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So you have had contact with him in

1149
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: the past three years.

1150
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, they just like don't text me back, Like as

1151
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 8: soon as I come up here, it's like I'm dead.

1152
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: Ah okay, all right, but when you okay, so you're

1153
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: not estranged from them though, when you go down there,

1154
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: you see them.

1155
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's the only time I ever get anything.

1156
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: Do when you go down there and you talk to

1157
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: them in person, do you tell them that you feel

1158
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: isolated when you're out of town. I do, actually, And

1159
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: what do they say?

1160
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 8: They kind of like, well, my dad, who is my

1161
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 8: main problem, He doesn't really like say anything at all.

1162
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 8: He just like kind of huff and then we'll move

1163
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 8: on to something else. But the rest of my family

1164
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 8: like kind of apologizes and says they'll do better, and

1165
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 8: then like nothing ever comes from it.

1166
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: M what's the rest of your life?

1167
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 8: Like, well, I just recently broke up with ex boyfriend

1168
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 8: and I moved back to Michigan just because I missed

1169
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 8: all my friends and stuff. I didn't really have a

1170
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 8: lot of friends out in Chicago.

1171
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're living your life, You're hanging out and

1172
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: you said you're in Michigan, right, You moved from Chicago

1173
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: to Michigan, which are both, yeah, the same. They're about

1174
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: twenty miles away from each other. And you have your own,

1175
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: your own life in Michigan that you forged for yourself

1176
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: outside of the little circle in Florida where you have

1177
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: your friends and associates. And I assume maybe you even

1178
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: have a job there. I know everyone's kind of working

1179
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: from home. But you have favorite restaurants in Michigan, you

1180
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: have a fucking Maleman. You have a life that you've

1181
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: built for yourself that you can put a little flag

1182
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: on and lay claim too. Is that accurate?

1183
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's accurate.

1184
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,520
Speaker 1: Good, And I think that you, as your own independent

1185
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: human being on this earth, should take pride in that life.

1186
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to hear that your family is not

1187
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: is not as proud of you for that as they

1188
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: should be. It's good that you're trying to keep contact

1189
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: with them, but at the end of the day, think

1190
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: it's good that you ventured out of the Florida circle

1191
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: to do your own thing, because what people should do, right. Yeah,

1192
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: it's good that you come.

1193
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,520
Speaker 8: Down a lot in the what do you.

1194
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: What are you seeing in the chat? Don't I tell

1195
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 1: people not to look at chat? What are you seeing

1196
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: in the chat?

1197
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 8: I'm seeing a lot of like anti sex work stuff and.

1198
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: Like, what what's your what's your Vaca valcoy, don't don't

1199
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: read the chat? Okay, tell me, tell me what you're

1200
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: going to say.

1201
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 8: Anyway, it just doesn't have My family is all actually

1202
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 8: super accepting about what I do. So that's definitely not that.

1203
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,520
Speaker 8: I just think it's more of a weird like communications

1204
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 8: like communications things they want you.

1205
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: Down in Florida. It's the opposite of that. I assume

1206
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: people in the chat are thinking that they're shunning you

1207
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: because of sex work, but that's not what they want

1208
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: you down in Florida.

1209
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1210
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: But as we've established you, you've built your own life

1211
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: with its own flag in Michigan, and I think it's

1212
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: good that you're continuing to make trips down to Florida

1213
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: because it sounds like family is important to you, but

1214
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: it's also important to you to have your own life.

1215
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: And you know, I know that you're experiencing issues with this,

1216
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: but it sounds like you're doing like a pretty good

1217
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: job of balance.

1218
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 8: Again.

1219
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you go home, you said three times a year. Yeah,

1220
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: you said, you said you've been home two times in

1221
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 1: this past year.

1222
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 6: Yep.

1223
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: That's pretty damn good man. I know people here in

1224
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: California who go home, you know, once every seven thousand years,

1225
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: So you're doing pretty good. Thank you, Valkerrie. Is there

1226
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: anything else you want to say to the people of

1227
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: the computer before we go?

1228
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 8: Not really, honestly, thank you for taking my call.

1229
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: Of course, thank you for calling. I hope that this

1230
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 1: was of something. I hope this felt productive, this was productive.

1231
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 8: Thank you very much.

1232
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: Good have a good night, Valkyrie, you as well. I

1233
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: don't I don't. I don't I understand why she why

1234
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to go down to Florida. Florida sucks. Actually,

1235
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: I don't know why. You know why I said that.

1236
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: I said that just now because a lot of other

1237
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: people have said that Florida sucks, and I am parating

1238
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 1: their opinions. I've been to Florida multiple times, and you

1239
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: know what, It's fine. I shouldn't have said it sucked.

1240
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: I was just saying that because I wanted to say

1241
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: something about a place because it feels good. That's why.

1242
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: This is why people do it. This is why people

1243
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: say things like Florida sucks, Texas is awful, Connecticut is bad.

1244
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 1: They do it because it's not because they really believe.

1245
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: Because it feels good to say that, to have negative emotions.

1246
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: It's cathartic. The Ranger suck ah, fucking Miami heat fuck ah.

1247
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: It feels good. It presnds chemicals to the brain of happiness.

1248
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: To be mad at something that has not has no

1249
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: sentience at all and doesn't care about you and that's

1250
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: why I did it just now and I'm sorry.

1251
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 8: Really goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.

1252
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 7: The recon goes to his d he's teaching you Cloud

1253
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 7: in the Memorial Life, but he's not read an expert