1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: I want to come in and be that spark. I 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: want to I want to bring the juice. UM. You know. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: I want to create trade, energy, play sparks plays, um. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: You know I love doing that. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: presented by t I A A Bank with Brian Sexton, 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Sean Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan and J. P. Shadri. Jaguar Reporters 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: pretended by t I A A Bank starts right now. 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Reporter podcast, wrapping up a busy free 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: agency week. We hope you listen to us on Friday 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: and we have a breaking news episode here on Tuesday. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: It's not really breaking news, but it's a new episode 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: at the least, and that's exciting. We have twelve free 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: agents to talk about. Five team in the building yesterday, 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: so let's go general impressions. Brian Sexton, yesterday was more 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: offensive day and we heard everyone talk about the need 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: for speed is real. Well, big picture generalization is that 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: they found a group of twelve guys that not only 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: fit their salary structure, fit their offense, their defense, their 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: special team, whatever role it is, that they're going to 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: play um and make them more competitive. And you know 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: we've talked about this. Now, if you think eight nate 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: is a bit of a reach, or if you think 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: maybe that's the high water mark, why would you go 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: spend fifteen million dollars a year on a tight end 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: or twenty million dollars a year on an offensive tackle. 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: You're not at that point yet. So I thought that 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: their general approach, they got really good players, not maybe 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: elite players, but guys who can step in lift the 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: level of performance of this roster at a number that 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: gives them the ability to protect their salary cap for 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: the future. Because I really think JP what I'm looking 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: for is three years from now, they're going to have 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: a lot of guys hopefully to pay and a quarterback 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: to pay and along the way here, why would you 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: waste money on a guy in in a prime year 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: of his career When if you're thinking eight nate might 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: be a reach, then why would you pay fifteen dollars 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: for a guy that maybe pushes another team over the top. 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: They had to rebuild the base of their roster right 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: and and fill some spots immediately and get some players 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: out of this situation that they don't know. They didn't draft, 42 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: they didn't pick up guys that they you know, even 43 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: in free agents that they may not know them completely. 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: But it felt like to me yesterday that in the 45 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: last two days these guys talked that the personalities of 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: these guys really matched what Urban and Trent Balky wanted 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: to do. That's why Ryan Stamper and Marcus Pollard I think, 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: are involved in a little bit of that process and 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: we'll see that a lot as the draft comes up 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: to how do they fit with their personality? Are they 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: the type of person player you want in this organization? 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: And it felt like, especially yesterday when, um, when some 53 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: of those guys step up to the microphone and guy 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: like Marvin Jones has been in the league for what 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: eight nine years now, Um, that is a guy you 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: want in your building because he's been through some life, 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: he's played football at a high level, and he can 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: help some of these younger guys John come along, and 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: I think that's an important part of the piece. It's 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: tough to find that a lot in free agency though. John, Well, 61 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: they did what they set out to do in the 62 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: sense of they wanted to as you as you guys said, 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: get better, and they also wanted to bring in guys 64 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: they were familiar with. They didn't want a whole lot 65 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: of risks in terms of personality type being brought into 66 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: the building because there's enough of that in the NFL anyway, 67 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: So they tried to minimize that. Uh, you know, I 68 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: can't expand too much on what you guys said, because 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: he covered it. They needed to get the roster better. 70 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: When they looked at this roster, they said, right now, 71 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: there are situations where we have to get better to 72 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: be able to line up. To use that old word, 73 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: they can line up better than they could before, but 74 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: let's not underestimate Shaquille Griffin, Malcolm Brown. Those are two 75 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: spots on the defense. If you get better on the 76 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: nose and you make your whole secondary better, Yea, there 77 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: was no reason for them to go out and sign 78 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: big time linebacker. They've got that, they have pass rushed. 79 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: If they get those two spots better and safety a 80 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: little better, all of a sudden, that defense with some 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: of the playmakers. You think Miles Jack won't benefit from 82 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: these guys who came in. Yeah, he won't be a 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: better player with better players around him. So they lifted 84 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: this thing a little bit in the last few days yes, 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: despite the splash, had a bunch of things that they 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: needed and checked off the list. And we sometimes forget 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: right here, right now, that this team was one in 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: fifteen last we have forgotten that. We haven't talked about it, 89 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: but we look, there's no point in continuing on. I mean, 90 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: we knew what last season was. Last season was getting 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: yourself set up to bring in Trevor Lawrence. Right, it 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: was an razor, right, wiping on the board. You're you're 93 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: just trying to you they were, That was what it 94 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: was about. They knew it was going to change this year. 95 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: There there's no doubt in my mind. They knew it 96 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: was going to change. So why even bother looking at 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: the numbers last year doesn't matter. The systems knew, the 98 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: coaches knew, the roster is going to be new. Move on. Yes, 99 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: you had a lot of work to be done, is 100 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: the moral of the story. And you got a little 101 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: bit closer in free agency. So let's hear from a 102 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: few of the new guys. We're going offense. On Jaguars 103 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: Reporter podcast today, we have heard coach Meyers say he 104 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: wants this team to be fast and it's added some 105 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: pieces to do just that in free agency, one of 106 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: the most interesting was investing in a return specialists, but 107 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: one of the best in the league, which I'm all agnew. 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: It definitely means a lot to me just to know 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: my skill set is being valued as it is. Um. 110 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: I feel like special teams is a very important aspect 111 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: of the game, and you don't really realizing that, realized 112 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: that until something catastrophic happens. And but you know, I 113 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: want to come in and be that spark. I want 114 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: to I want to bring the juice. Um. You know, 115 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: I want to create, create energy, play spark plays. UM. 116 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: I love doing that like that. That stuff's fun to me. 117 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: It was kind of weird last year without fans. Um. 118 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm running a big return back and it's 119 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: the quiet, so it's just like that's going on. But 120 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm here. We're gonna have you know, hundred 121 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: sent capacity. So I can't wait to the house call 122 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: that first one and in the stadium. Staying on the 123 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: offense train. Here we go to free agency and Philip 124 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: Door said is someone who's been around the league and 125 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: played for multiple teams, but it's coming back from a 126 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: foot injury that made him miss the entire season, so 127 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: one excited to be here in Jacksonville and too just 128 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: excited to be back playing football again. Oh I know 129 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: he want to speed. A lot of teams won't speed. 130 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: They needs to be and um, and I can run. 131 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: So that was definitely one of one of the big 132 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: factors that made me come here, but not the only thing. 133 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: But um, I would say it's probably up there. And 134 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: we wrap it up here with a guy. Frankly, I 135 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: was absolutely blown away by this guy. Had the chance 136 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: to speak to all of them, and Marvin Jones came 137 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: in here with a plan and extremely professional. This is 138 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: a guy, like JP said, you want in your locker 139 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: room and that veteran presence, frankly was missing, and you 140 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: have found it with this guy. Oh well, I mean 141 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: it feels good, you know, obviously because I'm still here 142 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: and I'm still playing at the top of my game. 143 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: So um, you know, just like I just I just 144 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: uh met everybody, met the young receivers and um, they 145 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: they didn't know I was thirty one. So they're like, man, 146 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: you look you look like you look like us. I'm like, yeah, 147 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, so now I'll show you the way I 148 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: said you had to I had to get there. So 149 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm here to be that mentor. Um and 150 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: and you know, for for them to follow, for them 151 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: to follow me, um, you know, UM, I love that 152 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: and I love that type of pressure and um. Yeah. 153 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: So it feels good. All right, John, We just heard 154 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: from three offensive guys, and coach Meyer has said multiple 155 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: multiple times, I want to pay play fast, I want 156 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: to play fearless. You can still add some pieces in 157 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: the draft, but you're feeling a little better about the 158 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: offense now with these additions. There's a question. I thank you. 159 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones is the one that stands out, and from 160 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: from listening him slenn Us, they had a chance to 161 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: get to know him a little better than we all did. 162 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: With guys who have been in the league ten years, 163 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: which he has, there's often reasons they've been in the 164 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: league ten years. They know how to approach it, they 165 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: know how to keep their bodies right, they know how 166 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: to prepare. You know, just talent doesn't keep you around 167 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: this thing. It's clear that he's one of those guys 168 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: who knows how to be in the league. On defense, 169 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: they wouldn't got Tyson Alola. He's the same kind of guy. 170 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: You can't just be an NFL player because you're a 171 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: good leader, but these guys certainly bring that to the table. 172 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: And I think Marvin Jones, with this young receiving corps, 173 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: he's going to play a huge role on the field. 174 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: I usually stay away from Hey guy is leadership guy 175 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: and that matters, but this might be one of those 176 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: cases where that really does matter. Yeah. The Philip door 177 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: set one, to me, is is interesting because he's this 178 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: will be his fourth team in the NFL at a 179 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: very short period of time. I remember he started an 180 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: ind Anapolis, has that blazing speed, and then was traded 181 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: I think he was part of the Jacoby Brissette deal 182 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: and was traded over to the Patriots as part of that, 183 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: and then last year this the whole season with that 184 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: foot injury. So I don't know if you could really 185 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: call this rolling the dice because you've seen him in 186 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: NFL action really play well and play at a high level. 187 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: But he is coming off that foot injury. That's a 188 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: big unknown. Can he live up to that? So I 189 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: think they're they're taking a little bit of a shot 190 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: on Philip Dorset, but it's a calculated risk for this team. Guys, right, 191 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: it's the contract. Look at it. It's not like you're 192 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: breaking the bank. For Philip Door said, you're bringing in 193 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: a piece and you're not. You know, if it's it 194 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: doesn't work, it doesn't work. It didn't break the bank 195 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: really for anybody. I mean they they didn't set the market, 196 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: which is what we've become accustomed to the Jaguars doing 197 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: over the years. Um that they didn't break the bank 198 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: JP because there's still number one in the league in 199 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: salary cap rooms. Which look they got or they lifted 200 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: the roster up as John alluded to. They protected and 201 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: preserved their salary cap and will into the future for 202 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 1: you know, two or three or four years down the 203 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: road when we expect there to be a number of 204 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: guys that you want to resign. I mean, all of 205 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: these guys just fit. They were smart signings. I don't 206 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: know much about Rudy Ford, right, but why is he here. 207 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: He's here to provide a special team boost. Great, you 208 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: need guys like that, and rather than draft somebody and 209 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: hope to teach them and bring them along, this is 210 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: a guy that will do that for you and the 211 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: guys that you bring in on the draft. So I 212 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: mean it was a very smart week for the Jaguars 213 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: and a different approach and different approaches work uh in 214 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: different ways. I think this fits perfectly with where they're at. 215 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Specific to doors set all right, say as to play 216 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: there with advocate he doesn't work out, Well, you've got 217 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: Chanel sorry, Colin Johnson, and you've got Marvin Jones, and 218 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: I would expect them to. It wouldn't surprise me at 219 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: all if they draft a player at that position. So 220 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: Doors said is very much he has. He has blazing speed. 221 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: He might give you four huge plays next year because 222 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: of that speed. So it's really sort of a gravy 223 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: acquisition in the sense that if he gives you what 224 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: you hope for, that explosive nous, fantastic, but you're not 225 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: necessarily depending on him to be one of your main 226 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: two guys. Yeah, not wide receiver one that hopefully is 227 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones with the contract that they paid him and 228 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: brought him into do Alright, that is our headlines offensive 229 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: focus for free agency. And before we all pick the 230 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: guy and tell you more about him, subscribe to the 231 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Jaguars Official podcast network, tweet it, like it, TikTok it, 232 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: Instagram five stars. I'll be above five stars like Uber 233 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: drivers five stars right here, right now, all right here 234 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: we go learning more about some of our free agent picks. 235 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: We have four guys you want to tell you about JP, 236 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: but he got I'm gonna go with Rudy Ford and 237 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: students for the Rudy Ford is from a small town 238 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: in North Alabama. It was about ten miles south of Huntsville. 239 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I will say this. He's from Big 240 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Cove and it's a small place. He went to New 241 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: Hope High School. The high school is three hundred students, right, 242 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: tiny class three a school, same high school as Howard 243 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: Cross by the way, one long time, tied end for 244 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: the Giants, right, and went to Alabama as well. I 245 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: went down to Auburn, was a starter for a couple 246 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: of years, led the Auburn team and tackles for a 247 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: couple of seasons, then kind of waned office senior season. 248 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: Then he goes in the National Football League. It was 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, and of course we know him most 250 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: recently with the Eagles. You know, he played last year 251 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: only eight games, but he was like fifth in the 252 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: league and special teams tackles had eleven total special teams 253 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: tackles last year, so you know, he didn't get a 254 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: lot of defensive time, hasn't had a lot of defensive 255 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: time in his career. And as you you pointed out earlier, Brian, 256 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: it's a special teams acquisition, but he has that uh 257 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: and I think in the combine he was the leading 258 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: a bench press guy for for defensive backs and safeties 259 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: that year when he came out. So he's got strength, 260 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: he can fly down the field, and he has that 261 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: just you know, that mindset of going down and destroying 262 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: the guy with the football. Now you know that'll be 263 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: a lot of on punt returns. There's not many kickoff 264 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: returns these days, but he'll be on that team as well. 265 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: But I just like the fact that he came from 266 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: a really small school in high school, worked his way 267 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: in the SEC, was you know, a late round draft 268 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: pick and has found a niche in the NFL and 269 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: it got him to a free agent contract that was 270 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: third team in the NFL. So that's a little bit 271 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: about Ford. I think, as you mentioned, it's going to 272 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: be I think that's a bigger acquisition. They haven't really 273 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: had a core group of special teams guys the last years. 274 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: You need a handful of those guys who can play 275 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: all the teams. Yeah, I mean you want a guy 276 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: to be Montell Owens and and Jaguars fans will remember 277 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: Montell Owens, who, by the way, is moving back here. Um, 278 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: but Montell was a guy who was a running back 279 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: and they found him. I mean, I didn't even think 280 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: you'd make the team. And yet, you know, Jeff Logaman 281 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: kept pointing out through the course of the preseason games. 282 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: You know that year, look at this guy on teams, 283 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: look at this guy on teams, and of course then 284 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: it becomes a three time you know, Pro Bowl Special 285 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Teams performer, and he really set the tone on special teams. 286 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: That's the key, is that you need somebody who says, hey, 287 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: you guys, you're all like me, the bottom of the roster. 288 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: You can be replaced, but if your hair is on 289 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: fire and you're willing to take the coaching and then 290 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: take down the return man, you could make a career 291 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: in this game. And he has. So those guys are 292 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: so critical because field position is a huge part of 293 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: the game that gets overlooked so often. Field position, field position, 294 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: field position. Yeah, and I asked him, Um, because coach 295 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: Meyer is known for special teams and how much it's 296 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: a big deal of this game. And I asked him, 297 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, you just got a contract, a big time 298 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: contract to come in here and be the special teams guy. 299 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: He's like, the commitment they have for this team to 300 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: special teams is huge. I feel like I'm a really 301 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: important piece and at time special team you don't feel 302 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: like that. He's like, here, I feel like that, John Well, 303 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: And they showed that with Jamal Agne as well. I 304 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: mean they feel like they need to be better on 305 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, it's the old thing. When you are 306 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: coming in as they are and you're trying to establish things, 307 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: meaning the regime is trying to establish things, you need 308 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: players who are going to be the symbol of that 309 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: and to be the voice in the locker room. Clearly, 310 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Ford is that guy. Agnew is that guy on the 311 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: other side of special teams, if you will, in terms 312 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: of being the returners. So it's putting your money where 313 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: your mouth. I'll say this to you know, Urban Meyer 314 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: and and Nick Saban and guys like that are known 315 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: for putting starting offensive or defensive players on special teams units. Right. 316 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: Damian Harris was on the punt block team in Alabama, right, 317 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: and had a few blocks in his career. Zeke Elliott 318 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: was on kickoff coverage at Ohio State, and like, you 319 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: can't do that here in the NFL, but you go 320 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: out and get specialized guys that can go. Basically they're 321 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: special team starters even though they don't get starting monikers here, 322 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, and you go with um, if you pair 323 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Rudy Ford with who was the best special team's performer 324 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: last year, Who's the guy who stands out immediately that 325 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: made the most plays on special teams? We're here, Yeah, 326 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: andrewingered to me, well, they haven't had a tandem like 327 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: that here since you know, two thousand ten when they 328 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: brought in cassim oz Good from San Diego, right and 329 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers to pair with Montell and they were really 330 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: good on special teams for a while because of those 331 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: two guys. When you've got two of those guys that 332 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: can do it, now, yeah, now you really have a 333 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: tempo center. So absolutely, all right, Rudy Ford is one 334 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: of them. I know so much more about him now 335 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: thanks to JP. Thank you, kind sir, John who you 336 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: got Well, I'm probably gonna go all back to high 337 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: school for Carlos Hide. But I'll go back to his 338 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: last time with the Jaguars. And you know, I got 339 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: letters from fans or not letters. I'm not you know, 340 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: we're not in the nineteen forties. I got emails from fans. 341 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: Why do we resign this guy? It didn't work last time. 342 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: It was a bad taste. It was not a great 343 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: moment a two thousand eighteen for Carlos Hide and the Jaguars. 344 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: But he addressed it and said, look, um, it's a 345 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: new era. He's really not resigning with the same team 346 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: that he left in terms of NFL, so fresh start 347 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: for this guy. He knows urban Meyer. It feels like 348 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: obviously he knew he was coming here immediately as soon 349 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: as urban Meyer came to Jaguars head coach. This to me, guys, 350 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: is an example of the NFL for these players is 351 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily about the logo. It's about who's there. It's 352 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: about who they're around. And for Carlos Hide, he feels 353 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: like this is a fit. Yeah, no doubt. By the way, 354 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: Send yourself address stamped envelope to John Osier one t 355 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: I A bank Field Drive, Jacksonville, Florida, three zero two, 356 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: and he will get back to you somewhere. There's a 357 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: reddit group, a Reddit group that will decide to bring 358 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: back mail, kind of like they pushed up the game 359 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: stop stock and John, you will be inundated with sacks, 360 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: burlap sacks filled with pieces of you. You'll have to 361 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: get interns to help you sign your your name sign 362 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: me up for That would be this summer for vacation. 363 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: So anyway, Carlos Hide, he's, as he said, Urban was 364 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: the big name, but he's got multiple connections here. Bak. 365 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: He got him in the league, drafted him in San Francisco, 366 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: and then Schottenheimer last year had him in Seattle. So 367 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: it is the perfect set up for him. And it's 368 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: a as you said, John, it's a new regime. It's 369 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: a new world here. You know, does he bring a 370 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: different attitude, that's my question, because he did not have 371 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: a good attitude when he was here. He was behind 372 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: Leonard and t J and I get it totally, but 373 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: he was not a pleasant person when he was here. 374 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: The last time. Now he alluded to the fact that 375 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: he was going through some things, and you know, he 376 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: didn't share all those and that's fine, you know, you 377 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: don't have to do that. But when they signed him, 378 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: my first reaction is not that guy again. However, when 379 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: you go and you watch him play in Houston, uh 380 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: and we saw it. He brings power and quickness to 381 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: the whole and a downhill mentality, So I can understand 382 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: why they want to bring him in. Uh And And 383 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: as John said, he's not coming back to the same 384 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: locker room and the same players. So you know, he's 385 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: got a fresh slate. Let's see what you do with it. 386 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: He's thirty years old. He's a role player as far 387 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. He's going to be a guy who's 388 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: going to carry the ball with James Robinson um probably 389 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: what fifteen times a game if if that's what the 390 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: game plan calls for. So you know, it's low, it's 391 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: it's low money. It's what is it, three million, it's 392 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: six two years? Yeah, yeah, okay, fine, right, you want 393 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: to bring some power in. He's as good a power 394 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: back as you could bring in. And I will give 395 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt and say that with 396 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer here was the head coach, he'll come in 397 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: with a different attitude, all about a fresh start. And 398 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: I do for the next year that's the Jaguars played 399 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: the tex sas Carlos Hide had himself a game. We 400 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: were saying, what the heck happened to Carlos Hide? And 401 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: why is he like this now? So place? He was 402 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: also here in two thousand eighteen. Guys, It's not like 403 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: he was fine solo on having a tough year in 404 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: terms all that stuff that year. Yeah, but he stands 405 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: at the only one that was a bad fit. He 406 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: still he wasn't here all that long. He stood out 407 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: for the way that he was in the locker room. 408 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: I mean it's it was like he's coming back to 409 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: what he sees a new situation. If he was going 410 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: back to the you know, to the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, 411 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: for him, this is no different than that. Soppen. We 412 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: will see what's happens, all right, Brian, what about you? 413 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: Can you sing the fight song of Philip Dorsets High School? Oh? Crap, 414 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: I know it's don't tell me. They're gonna be so disappointed. St. 415 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: Thomas Aquinas a lums unite um. They put out a 416 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: lot of talent, there's no doubt. Ut Thomas and Palm Beach. No, 417 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: it's not copy. Uh. Here's the thing that stands out. 418 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: And you know, Dorset was a first round pick of 419 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: the Colts in two thousand and fifteen. He's averaged twenty 420 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: five catches in three five yards and two touchdowns in 421 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: five seasons of action. Last year obviously you mentioned he 422 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: didn't play. Um, yeah, he You look at his career 423 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: numbers catches, uh, four yards, eleven touchdowns. That's a good 424 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: season by Michael Thomas right in New Orleans. So everyone, 425 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: whether it's the Colts or the pay Treats or the Seahawks, 426 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: they have banked on his speed and he's made some 427 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: plays here and there that had made you go wow, um, 428 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: low risk, high rewards signing. You know, the Dorset reminds 429 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: me of a couple of guys in this group who 430 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: are all promising players who are still looking to capture 431 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: their potential right uh to play at a high level 432 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: and to prove that they belong in the NFL um 433 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: for four or five more years. And I thought he 434 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: presented himself well yesterday. He's clearly got the speed right, 435 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: assuming that the foot is there. Speed is why he 436 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: has stayed in the league for five years, because when 437 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: you look at numbers like this, he's never had more 438 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: than thirty three catches in a season and never more 439 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: than five yards. Right, so he's never put a big numbers. 440 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: You'd say, well, I can go find another guy. I 441 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: can go find Keelan Cole from Kentucky Wesleyan who can 442 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: give me these kinds of numbers at less than this 443 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: guy is gonna cost me. However, what this guy brings 444 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: is that tantalizing prospect of speed that you can't find 445 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: in many places. You can't coach it. So hopefully the 446 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: year off has given him the ability to recapture the 447 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: explosive nous and be able to come and be on 448 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: the field. Look, he's probably never going to be more 449 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: than a twenty five average, twenty five catch guy, because 450 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: you've got other you got Morvin Jones and Leavisca Chennault 451 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: and d J. Chark and Colin Johnson. But if he 452 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: gives you twenty five catches where he averages sixteen yards 453 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: or seventeen yards per catch, man at the number that 454 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: he's playing for, he's giving you something for sure. Yeah, 455 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: if he flips the field four times, is he worth it? Oh? 456 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: Without doubt? Change the box. Yeah, I mean if he 457 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: takes it from the opposing thirty five three or four times. 458 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: That's which you sign a guy like this for that 459 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: kind of speed where all of a sudden the momentum 460 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: changes in a game, and with that speed, he's capable 461 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: of doing that, is he? You know, I'm curious can 462 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: he do the different things? We're always kind of trying 463 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: to compare people to Percy Harvon right, similar size, right, 464 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's for doorsets five tin Percy was like 465 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: five eleven on something like that, right different. I know 466 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: that the speed and like they moved Harvon all over 467 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: the place in the backfield slot out. Do you know 468 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: he was thicker? Heah he. You know when you used 469 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: to put Jimmy Smith next to Keenan macartello, you could 470 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: always tell the difference because Jimmy had the lower body, 471 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: big legs um and and Harvon is that way? I mean, 472 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: this guy is more of just a straight down the 473 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: field burner. Here. Here's what he'll do. He'll take the 474 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: safety down the field who's scared of his speed and 475 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: clear out the middle for whoever you have a tight 476 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: end or for Labisco Shetion alt in the middle of 477 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: the field. This guy will take the safeties away because 478 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: his speed will scared in the round. Stuff with him. 479 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: I would be interesting because of his speed to get 480 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: around the corner. Maybe too. I don't know they're gonna 481 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: use the double reverse. Hell, give me a calling it now. 482 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Don't be surprised when it happens. He's spoken into existence, 483 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: all right. Bringing at Home with Marvin Jones, he joked 484 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: that he is now the oldest guy in the wide 485 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: receiver locker room, but looks the youngest. Noted still at 486 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: the height of his career despite his age, which is 487 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: not old but just funny. That's jp you were the 488 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: guy that called him old in the press contra I said, 489 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: don't take this the wrong way, but you are the 490 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: old man of the room. Yes, he smiled, He didn't. 491 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: This guy can play nine touchdowns last year, played in 492 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: every single game, started obviously, and every single game, and 493 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: stat wise, one of the best years of his career. 494 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: This is the guy that you want in the building. 495 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: And something that stood out to me is we talk 496 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: about leadership and you're like, hey, he's a great leader. 497 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Coach Meyers said it last Friday that his phone has 498 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: been blowing up about this guy's leadership cape abilities. But 499 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: I asked him about about the wide receivers, and I 500 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: was like, what do you know about him? DJ Charcoal 501 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: discussion all He's like, actually, just I just sat down 502 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: with them. I just spoke with them. Granted, let's remember 503 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: that when free agents come in here, it's not for 504 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: a week's stay there here maybe five hours, four hours. 505 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: They have a lot to do while they're here. They're 506 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: seeing coaches, going over things, meeting the media. And Marvin 507 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: Jones took the time to sit down with these two 508 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: guys his very first day and get to know them. 509 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I've never heard of that happening before. 510 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: We take that you say hi and by, but that 511 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: stood out to me. You know, you your preach leadership 512 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: and he's doing it well. Free agencies different than it 513 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: even was in two thousand and seventeen. I mean, I 514 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: can remember seventeen. You had Calais Campbell standing over in 515 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: the coaches offices, and as all those guys came through 516 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: from that big free agency class, you know, he was 517 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: there to greet them and talk to them. You know, 518 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: he and a J boy had a long conversation and 519 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: they were spending the time together. Um COVID has changed 520 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: that a bit and just the rapid nature of building 521 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: your team. Um, Marvin Jones here, here's my reaction to him. Okay, 522 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: they're not going to draft a receiver in the first round, 523 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: right because you're adding Marvin Jones or even maybe the 524 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: second Marvin Jones and Philip dor said to La Visca, 525 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: Colin and Djo it's a group. Okay, you got that group. 526 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: Now you go find another receiver somewhere down the road. 527 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: But the other thing they just said to me was 528 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: they are going to throw the ball a lot here 529 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: a lot with a quarterback going to throw it a lot. 530 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: So the mentality of run first, which was here seventeen, eighteen, 531 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty gone. Yeah, this team is gonna throw the 532 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: ball side note, John, have you googled his American idol performance? 533 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: I have not. I was assuming that you would take 534 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: care of that angle force for Jaguars reporters would cover 535 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: that is American idols that on TikTok. Is that one 536 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: of those TikTok they have a TikTok channel And it 537 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: was from the two thousand eighteen season. It was like, 538 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if it made it on the finalized show. 539 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: It was kind of like behind the scenes, but they're 540 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: like Katie Perry. You know Katie Perry, she's a hit maker. 541 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: John she was blown away, kissed a girl and she 542 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: liked it. Right, Yeah, alright, that Joe turned my Mica off. 543 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: Do yourself a favor and google Marvin Jones American Idle performance. 544 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: It was thrilling. But there's some guys and all kidding aside, 545 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: we've all been through free agency enough where there are 546 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: some guys who when they walk into a building, you 547 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: can tell that they are going to own it in 548 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: terms of being there for the media, in terms of 549 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: being a leader. You know you've been closer to him 550 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: Slenn than any of us just by having a chance 551 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: to talk to him. He strikes you as there's a 552 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: little bit of Laius when Calais came in, of immediately 553 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: becoming a veteran leader, as if he's been here for 554 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: eight or nine years and he has that personality type. 555 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: When Klaius got here, it was as if he had 556 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: spent all ten years with the Jaguars. You need those 557 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: kind of guys. That strikes me that Marvin James might 558 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: be that kind of guy. I could not agree more. 559 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: Slam Duncan. Yeah, and I'll say this to just to 560 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: get it out there. I said earlier. You know, he's 561 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: lived a lot of life. I didn't know about American idol. 562 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: That's one part of it. But not that long ago, 563 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: he and his wife lost an infant son, um, so 564 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: he and he almost quit football, and there was a 565 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: point where he didn't want to do this anymore. He 566 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: didn't want to do a lot of things anymore. And 567 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: he explained yesterday that he quickly, after getting together with 568 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: his family, decide, you know what, this this is the 569 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: right thing to be around. So it's not just a 570 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: football player catching touchdowns. Um. He has his priorities in order, 571 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: and I think that will go a long way in 572 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: this locker room. How many times did Jamal Agnew say 573 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: he's an incredible thought? I heard it at least three times, 574 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: and that that I left thinking, Okay, I can't wait 575 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: to talk to him and find out what he does 576 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: with his kids and why and what makes him such 577 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: an incredible father. So important to find out what kind 578 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: of people they are, and you find out by the 579 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: way that you treat your kids. Over All, this seems 580 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: like a really cool guy, and it was funny. After 581 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: the interview. One more side note. He he looked at 582 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: the cameras. He goes, oh my god, those are red cameras. 583 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: He's like, and I saw you guys walking around with 584 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: ari cameras, Like you know what those are. He's like, yeah, 585 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really into the production side of TV and 586 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: and this is awesome. You guys have this equipment. We're like, 587 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: what great? We're going to be asking you to be 588 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: in front of these quite a bit. Yeah, like get 589 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: used to this, You're like in this. There's more where 590 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: this comes from. So yes, overall, Marvin Jones safe to 591 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: say and pressed us and this podcast, I would say 592 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: it was pretty impressive for this week when stuff John's sleep. 593 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: Can you see what breaked off quickly? Actually before he 594 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: can do anything to dissuade you from your positivity. Yeah, 595 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: here he goes, pet you threw it up. Thank you 596 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: for tuning in Jaguars Reporters podcast. Like subscribe, TikTok, you've 597 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: heard it. Your verse to the Jaguars official podcast, Networking 598 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: for Good five Stars, five Stars Talks five Star Yeah. 599 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: I just added it in there. Why not. We'll see 600 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: you next week.