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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a Mental Wealth podcast

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Speaker 1: Build you from the inside out.

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Speaker 2: Now here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into Unbreakable, a Mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Glazer. What a special show we have for

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Speaker 1: you today. And unbreakable, to me is such a very

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Speaker 1: valuable word. It goes to my soul, goes to my spirit,

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Speaker 1: and what it means to me is something that could

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Speaker 1: have broken me, shouldn't, but didn't, and as a result,

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Speaker 1: I came through the other side of that tuttle stronger forever.

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Speaker 1: And I've had a lot of talks with people over

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Speaker 1: the years with finding that moment. And you think that

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Speaker 1: moment is a moment of weakness, it's not our equity

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Speaker 1: of the things that almost broke us but didn't, and

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Speaker 1: as a result, we now know how strong we really are.

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Speaker 1: It's not a weakness, it's your strengths and we could

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Speaker 1: build on these strengths and use these strengths for the

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Speaker 1: rest of our lives. So we wanted to get together

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Speaker 1: and put together a conglomeration of this question, and I

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Speaker 1: asked all my guests and every show is give me

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Speaker 1: your unbreakable moment that moment when you should have gotten broken,

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Speaker 1: could have gotten broken, but didn't, and as a result.

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Speaker 2: You came through the other side of that tunnel stronger.

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Speaker 1: And the life lessons that we have learned from our

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Speaker 1: guests with this one question has been so incredibly helpful,

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Speaker 1: moving filled with strength, and it's built our mental wealth

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Speaker 1: together like nothing else. So I hope you enjoy all

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Speaker 1: these unbreakable moments. But some of the biggest names in sports, entertainment, music,

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Speaker 1: the veteran community. You know, I've been trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out how do I possibly introduce this chat in the

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Speaker 1: right way. You know what, It's family, and this dude

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Speaker 1: has been part of your family for probably decades and

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Speaker 1: decades if he's been part of my family for the

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Speaker 1: last twenty years at Fox NFL Sunday. Probably most famous

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Speaker 1: for coming out with a Christmas album, I would say,

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Speaker 1: and he's.

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Speaker 2: Done a couple other things. It's one and only Terry Bradshaw.

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Speaker 3: Everybody thanks Jay Glazer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for bringing up that Christmas album.

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Speaker 2: That's the only reason I wanted you want to It's

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Speaker 4: I hear you.

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Speaker 2: What's that moment in your life?

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Speaker 1: It's called them breakable, that something should have broke you,

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Speaker 1: but didn't, and you came through the other side of

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Speaker 1: that tunnel and you're stronger.

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Speaker 3: There's a phrase I heard on television and a guy

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Speaker 3: by the name of Quickly Flips used it before we

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Speaker 3: sang this song. And being a guy that speaks to

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Speaker 3: a lot of corporations, or I used to, I don't

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Speaker 3: as much anymore, but I almost always use this because

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Speaker 3: it sets up a good ending and it goes it's

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Speaker 3: in the quiet crucible of your personal private suffering that

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Speaker 3: your noblest dreams are born and God's greatest gifts are

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Speaker 3: given to you for what you've been through, and that

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Speaker 3: says it all right there. I'm most proud, most proud

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Speaker 3: of not letting them break me in Pittsburgh, and they

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Speaker 3: And I was sitting in my room, Jake, all by myself,

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Speaker 3: not married, and I had emotional breakdown and I had

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Speaker 3: this incredible talk to myself. I've never said this, where

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Speaker 3: I said, I am not going to let him take

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Speaker 3: by these negative people, you know, nobody is going to

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Speaker 4: I own it. It's mine.

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Speaker 3: And I had this incredible self motivating talk to myself.

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Speaker 3: And it was from that moment on that I developed

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Speaker 3: I did how.

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Speaker 4: He loves it.

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Speaker 3: When I say mirror economics or mirror self evaluation, what

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Speaker 3: does that mean to me? Stand in front of a

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Speaker 4: You better do this. You know it's I call it mirror.

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Speaker 3: Economics, but it's basically it's a self evaluation. And when

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Speaker 3: I need a pad on the back, I need love,

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Speaker 2: But I'm not and I'm not and I'm not.

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Speaker 4: And from this day forward, you know, as you said, the.

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Speaker 3: Shield is up, and my shield of armor is up,

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Speaker 3: this around. It may not have been in Pittsburgh, may

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Speaker 4: That is my unbreakable moment.

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Speaker 1: This person here is certainly in that category of one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest athletes of all times, one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest Olympians of all times. But I like to have

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Speaker 1: to bring in a good friend of mine who we

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Speaker 1: respectfully call each other each one's besties, The wanted Only

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Speaker 2: How are you, bestie?

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Speaker 4: Hey j how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I love the product placement there. Don't gee,

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Speaker 1: are you a spokesman for somebody?

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Speaker 2: I can't tell.

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Speaker 2: That's still a thing for.

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Speaker 1: You, helmet air after all these years, you still worry

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it doesn't go away like when you ski.

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Speaker 5: It just happens. It's a natural side effect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Fucking Lindsay Von.

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Speaker 2: I could have whatever kind of air at you.

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Speaker 1: Shit me, give me your own breakable moment, the thing

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Speaker 1: for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jay, that list is really long.

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Speaker 5: There's been many unbreakable moments. I think probably my second

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Speaker 5: the entire world wrote me off and it almost broke me.

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Speaker 5: It was close, probably one of the hardest times of

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Speaker 5: my proudest moments. I cried like a little baby, and

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Speaker 5: I guarantee you that no one else would have been

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Speaker 1: Going to bring it a good friend of mine from

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. I've been friends for ages from

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Speaker 1: New York City. But now we have something else we've

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Speaker 2: And that is Kenneth Cole. How are I brought it?

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Speaker 4: I'm great, Jay.

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Speaker 6: So if you do get a successful designer.

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Speaker 4: On the show some day, let me know.

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Speaker 2: Is that to fuck that one up?

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Speaker 1: Didn't I yea give me your unbreakable moment, But the

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Speaker 6: So I woke up one morning and I realized that

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Speaker 6: by Federated Department Stores, which and they were both in

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Speaker 4: That middle man.

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Speaker 6: If I opened stores and I could become the destination,

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Speaker 6: So I changed the business model and when public in

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Speaker 1: Have been very open about meeting certain teammates in my life,

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Speaker 2: As I've struggled. I used to sit there and suffer

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Speaker 1: But I've needed a fight team. I've needed people I

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Speaker 1: Let's just say that he looks like exactly like me,

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Speaker 2: But that is my boy, Andrew Whitworth.

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Speaker 4: How are you, brother, I'm good, brother. Thank you so

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Speaker 4: much for let me come on here with you today.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely letting you come on. You kidd me. And

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Speaker 1: Look, when I wrote my book Unbreakable, and I tried

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Speaker 1: to explain what mental health issues were, what the gray was.

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Speaker 1: Andrew and I were sitting in Cabo with Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: into Matthew Stafford in Cabo.

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Speaker 7: Just happened, you know, just happened to right a lot

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Speaker 7: of people you run into in a hot tub, you know,

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Speaker 2: It started in the hot dub went back to Whitworth's room.

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Speaker 7: You know, love at first sight. No, it's hey, that

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Speaker 7: was a special week I'll never forget us visiting and

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Speaker 7: talking about you. Writing your book and obviously wow, to

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Speaker 7: think where both of us have gone from there, it's

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Speaker 1: Give me your unbreakable moment, that moment that should have

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Speaker 2: Of that's all.

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Speaker 7: Anytime in sports, you have lots of moments that maybe

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Speaker 11: hard it was because I had a lot of anger.

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Speaker 11: It just came out in different ways with all of us.

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Speaker 11: And when you want someone to rely on, or you're sick,

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Speaker 11: when you're eleven and you want to call your dad,

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Speaker 11: you can't. He calls me when he wants. You know,

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Speaker 11: he was around, he just wasn't available right, And so

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Speaker 11: that was a very tough one even throughout my life.

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Speaker 11: But I think in a world of like a victim mentality,

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Speaker 11: I have to say I can't just talk about those things.

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Speaker 11: You have to just say here's the cards you're dealt

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Speaker 11: and go forward or not because no one's there to

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Speaker 11: help you. That's not an one's job. So if you

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Speaker 11: want to move forward, you got to take what happens

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Speaker 11: and move forward. You can't just blame, blame, blame. I mean,

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Speaker 11: it's easier said and done, and I have not done

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Speaker 11: it perfectly, but I just realized it's either that or nothing.

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Speaker 11: And it was like the Joder movie, that was part

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Speaker 11: of it going. You got to keep keeping on because

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Speaker 11: what else you gonna do, so I had to do it.

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Speaker 11: My mom, luckily was so great and made up the

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Speaker 11: best she could, so I hope her everything. But yeah,

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Speaker 11: that was that was it. It bothered me, you know,

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Speaker 11: for obviously for a long ter.

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Speaker 2: My dude, Freddy Fritz Junior, how are you, my man?

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Speaker 4: I'm very well. How are you good?

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Speaker 12: Good?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: I ask all my guests this, give me your unbreakable moment.

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Speaker 1: One thing in life, man, that could have broken you,

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Speaker 1: should have broken you, but it didn't, and as a result,

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Speaker 1: you came through the other side of that tunnel stronger forever.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean we touched on it earlier, because I

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Speaker 12: definitely there's nothing unbreakable about me. Being breakable is what

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Speaker 12: keeps me sharp, It's what keeps me focused, It's what

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Speaker 12: keeps me disciplined, knowing that all this precious life, everything

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Speaker 12: I have, it can all be gone in in a

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Speaker 12: moment's notice if life doesn't turn out the way it's

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Speaker 12: supposed to. So every time those moments come, I really

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Speaker 12: try to be prepared for him. When I decided to

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Speaker 12: move to Los Angeles and pursue this business, that was

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Speaker 12: one of those make or break moments.

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Speaker 4: I could have quit I could have given up.

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Speaker 12: I hated being told no, I hated being told I

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Speaker 12: wasn't good enough. I hated having bad auditions when I

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Speaker 12: knew I had a better performance somewhere inside me. I

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Speaker 12: just couldn't get it out at that moment. I have

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Speaker 12: moments in the car where I wanted to turn around

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Speaker 12: and be like, no, give me one more chance. But

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Speaker 12: you can't do that. It's so unprofessional. So there were

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Speaker 12: times where I was ready to walk away. And then

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Speaker 12: you know, it was that discipline from my godfather, you know,

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Speaker 12: and those BS quotes that.

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Speaker 2: He would always hit me with.

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Speaker 12: I'm in control of my actions and my reactions to

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Speaker 12: the actions of others, and so every not I heard,

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Speaker 12: I just had to control.

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Speaker 4: The way that made me feel. And it was all right, you.

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Speaker 12: Don't think I'm good enough, You'll see. And the next

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Speaker 12: time I went in, I made sure I was better,

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Speaker 12: and I had to hustle, I had to lie. I

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Speaker 12: did every thing I could to get as many auditions

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Speaker 12: and as much experience as I could so that when

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Speaker 12: those big dogs called me in they couldn't talk shit

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Speaker 12: like they would have. They wouldn't be able to deny me,

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Speaker 12: and eventually I broke through. You know, I had to

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Speaker 12: wait for skeet Ulric to be busy because we popped

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Speaker 12: at the same time. But once he booked a movie,

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Speaker 12: I was like, all right, there's gonna be six opportunities.

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Speaker 4: I got to get one of them.

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Speaker 2: See, I want to correct you because you said you're

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Speaker 2: not unbreakable. You are unbreakable because there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: things that could have broken, but you didn't stay down. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in the permanent sense, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: I am right. I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 1: And man, I appreciate you, brother, Thank you so much again.

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Speaker 1: Wrestling with Freddie as Wrestling Podcast. Make sure everybody here

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Speaker 1: tunes into that.

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Speaker 2: Dude. Can't thank you enough.

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Speaker 1: Man. You know, hopefully you and I can break some

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Speaker 1: bread and man shit have Straham won't get his ass

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Speaker 1: back out her.

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Speaker 2: You can teach me. I have a surf, not a problem.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: We live pretty close to each other.

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Speaker 12: So man, you and to all your listeners, it's a

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Speaker 12: fight every day, so put your hands up.

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Speaker 2: Love it. Freddy Prince Junior, Thank you, my dude.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, my pleasure