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Speaker 1: Buckle up, Buck Show Walter joining us right now. Buck,

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Speaker 1: great to see you. I love that intro. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the best that we do. You've got AJ, Me

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Polar.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Plar, it's another guy. I wanted to get on

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Speaker 2: a club many times, but AJ and both these guys,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't get a GM to go along with me.

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Speaker 3: Buck, I gotta start this often because we talked about

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Speaker 3: this in the production meeting. I got a chance to

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Speaker 3: compete against you a ton. First of all, it's an

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Speaker 3: honor to meet you. It was a big fan from AFAR.

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Speaker 3: But I got a question for you. All those years

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Speaker 3: we played against each other, I'd always see you out

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Speaker 3: early VP guys taking early ground balls. You'd be leaning

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Speaker 3: on your fung go. I never once came up to

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Speaker 3: you and said hi. I always heard that you didn't

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Speaker 3: like to talk to the quote unquote the enemy, so

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Speaker 3: I never took that opportunity. You also never went out

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Speaker 3: of your way to come say hi to me, So

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Speaker 3: I just kind of solid as that's just Buck. You know,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't necessarily want to associate with the other team.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, it's honored to meet you, and

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Speaker 3: I probably should have taken that chance.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's both our faults. You know. It's funny is

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Speaker 2: that I grew up in an era where all a

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Speaker 2: product of our upbringing, where we used to get fined

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Speaker 2: in the minor leagues and in the major leagues they

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Speaker 2: would have one umpire sit in the stands and if

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Speaker 2: you were seen talking to the other team, you got fined.

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Speaker 2: And in the major leagues they used to take the

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Speaker 2: youngest umpire of the four man crew and they would

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Speaker 2: sit in the stands early on, and if you were

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Speaker 2: what is the word. You guys helped me fraightnizing, and

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Speaker 2: you would actually get fine because they wanted to keep

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Speaker 2: the sanctity of the competition for the fans for some reason.

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Speaker 2: That's another rule that you know whatever. But I didn't

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Speaker 2: do it by on purpose. I was probably very I

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Speaker 2: was leaning on that to keep from falling over most

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Speaker 2: of the time. But I'm miss being able to hit

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Speaker 2: fungos and throw batting practice. That was to get away

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Speaker 2: from the media. Kevin, Oh, sorry, I got to go

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Speaker 2: through the VP. But it's great, great to be on

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Speaker 2: with you. I've always admired the way you played. People

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Speaker 2: always wanted you on your club. You had a not

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Speaker 2: You didn't play with an anger. You just played with

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Speaker 2: a edge. That's what I liked.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate that, Buck for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, couldn't you tell that Kevin was a football player?

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Speaker 1: We talked about this at the top of the show.

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Speaker 4: Of course, he.

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Speaker 2: Lives in Argyll, Texas. That's not far from me. Kevin.

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Speaker 2: We got to get together.

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Speaker 3: Let's get together.

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Speaker 5: Where are you at.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Dallas. I've been there for twenty something years.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, I'm new out here. I'd love to

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Speaker 3: get together with you.

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Speaker 2: Ay, Jay, how you doing this? Will love fest?

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Speaker 5: But by the way, Buck, I don't know where you are,

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Speaker 5: but I'm in Baltimore. The weather here sucks. The weather sucks.

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Speaker 5: It's sixty degrees and cloudy and crappy. It's always twenty first.

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Speaker 5: Where the hell is the hot Baltimore weather that I

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Speaker 5: came ready for.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Maryland to AJ right now. I'm going home

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Speaker 2: on a few days. But my son lives up here.

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Speaker 2: But you know, uh, I played golf for the first

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Speaker 2: time in the year the other day and the weather

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Speaker 2: was just fine. AJ.

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Speaker 4: That's good golf weather. Yeah, sixties, you'll take it. And

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Speaker 5: When I came in a T shirt shorts, though, I

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Speaker 5: got off the plane and I was like, WHOA, I

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Speaker 5: should have brought a winter coat.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing up here?

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Speaker 5: Aj There's a there's this team Buck that used to

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Speaker 5: work for called the Orioles. They have a game tonight

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Speaker 5: against the Astros and it's on TV.

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Speaker 2: You're working it. Yeah, God bless you. I was out

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Speaker 2: there first time and I don't know how long for

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Speaker 2: the Savannah Bananas, and then I did the Adam Jones

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame induction ceremony. It's uh, it was kind

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Speaker 2: of emotional. It's cool. You guys been a Savannana's game.

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Speaker 2: Look at this. Have you just been one of these games?

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Speaker 5: Buck buck Listen? You know how you just said that

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Speaker 5: we were never teammates. We are teammates because I was

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Speaker 5: a last Friday I played.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'm just pointed. I'm disappointed you didn't play. I'm very

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Speaker 5: disappointed that you didn't play. I know, I am just

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Speaker 5: like Ozzie didn't play. But I caught I hit, and

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Speaker 5: then I caught an inning on the bananas. It was

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Speaker 5: one of the best experiences I've ever had on a baseball.

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Speaker 5: You call it. Why do the acts surprise like you caught?

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Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you so. I was with Sean

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Speaker 2: Casey at the Scotty Combine. My whole thing's falling apart

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Speaker 2: here and he goes, hey, buck, I gonn believe this.

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Speaker 2: He's having surgery for snapping a hamstring off the bone

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Speaker 2: play in one inning for the Bananas.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but Sean Casey, Sean Casey's dumb buck because

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Speaker 5: he ran hard. I hit a ground ball and ran

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Speaker 5: Paul Knerko who did it. The next night text me

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Speaker 5: and goes, man, you really gave a crap when you

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Speaker 5: ran that ball out. And I go, okay, when you

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Speaker 5: get your back tomorrow, you let me know how it goes.

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Speaker 5: And he had into a double play and he didn't

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Speaker 2: Told a bunch of people, if you don't get the

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Speaker 2: Savannah Bananas, you need to go to a game. I

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Speaker 2: now get it. Behind the scenes. I got to see

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Speaker 2: how the whole thing works. I mean, the next morning,

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Speaker 2: I've got a video from the guy in full yellow tuxedo.

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Speaker 2: They get it, and they put ninety thousand people in

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Speaker 2: Camon Yards over two days, and it's like and they play.

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Speaker 2: You know, they lost six in a row. This isn't

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Speaker 2: the Washington Generals and the Globe trotters. I mean, they're

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Speaker 2: getting after it. And I was not surprised. But these

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Speaker 2: kids are talented, They've got some skills, and it got

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Speaker 2: my attention. I now get it. I get why they're

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Speaker 2: successful now, and they work at it and they surround

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very surprised the two of you being such

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Speaker 3: a big fan of it. But I mean I haven't

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Speaker 3: had a chance to be a part of it. I hope,

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Speaker 3: you know, one of the thousand teams I played for,

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Speaker 3: I get a chance to go out and you know,

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Speaker 3: it on TV every once in a while when it's on,

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Speaker 3: and my kids love watching it. I get it. You know,

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Speaker 3: as long as you're you see it as a not

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Speaker 3: competition in the Major League. It's just another avenue to

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Speaker 3: promote baseball. I think it's great what they're doing. It's fun,

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Speaker 3: it's fast, it's entertaining, the fact that they have the

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Speaker 3: fan engagement, the fan you could bring. You can actually

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Speaker 3: you can make an out. I think it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: You'd be great. You're very athletic. These guys work at

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Speaker 2: their trade and they interact with the fan. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they get what they're there for. It's I I'm a

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Speaker 5: He buck. So I don't know what team was there

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Speaker 5: when you What team did they play against when you

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Speaker 5: were there?

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Speaker 2: The Firefighters?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so that was the same team that they played against.

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Speaker 5: So we brought Mark Burley in the pitch against him.

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Speaker 5: He got an out and that was why I caught.

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Speaker 5: So I caught it in and he was the last out. Okay. Well,

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Speaker 5: the guy who was pitching was like ninety to ninety three.

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Speaker 5: And you're right. They're good players. Like they're all played.

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Speaker 5: Most of them either played in the minor leagues or

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Speaker 5: high Division one baseball. It's not like these guys are

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Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh boy, just don't hit me in

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Speaker 5: a certain area. Okay, but then we bring in Burley

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Speaker 5: how hard Mark through when he was pitching too exactly.

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Speaker 5: But you, I'm telling you right now, if KP gets

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Speaker 5: a chance, everything you said, Buck is one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: Right now. They entertained the fans. The two hour clock

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Speaker 5: is amazing. It runs, and the two hours it's over right.

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Speaker 5: But the best part is the foul balls that the

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Speaker 5: fans can catch because they're engaged on every play. And

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Speaker 5: the hitters hated. There was a guy on the Firefighters

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Speaker 5: this year. It's killing my average. First pitch, I go

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Speaker 5: so I got another pitch. But I was like, if

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Speaker 5: Then I would have hated that rule. But since I didn't,

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Speaker 2: Now that they just don't know, I think baseball could

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Speaker 2: take something from them. It's just non stop action, you know.

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Speaker 2: They have tryouts around the country, and if somebody's a

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Speaker 2: they're not there very long. They are constantly looking for talent.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have a Savannah Banana League next year, I

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Speaker 2: think in Savannah. I heard so anyway, I was impressed,

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Speaker 3: Hey, how the hell did they get Mark Burley to

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Speaker 3: That's how you know that this league is doing something

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Speaker 3: right because you know, Aj when we talked when we

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Speaker 3: want to be in front of people, doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: to play with him. You know, he's a super behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes cool dude, but doesn't like the spotlight. The

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was all his family. His family got him

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Speaker 5: I got pushed into it too, is my kids were

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Speaker 5: like that if they asked, you have to do it.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, let's make.

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Speaker 2: This so Aja, tell me why he was good. Tell

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Speaker 2: me why he was a good pitcher, because he didn't

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Speaker 2: light up the gun. But I always wanted to talk

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Speaker 5: Why was he good? Well, he threw four pitches for strikes,

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Speaker 5: four Seemer sinker change, actually five curveballs. Cutter could throw

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Speaker 5: him to both sides of the plate. He worked fast,

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Speaker 5: so every hitter was.

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Speaker 2: Like time out, time out.

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Speaker 5: Every time that a hitter would look at the umpire

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Speaker 5: And then the thing about him is because he didn't

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Speaker 1: We've gone over a couple other plans this week, KP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can tell you what they're trying

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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 1: Show Walter is back with a bold new realignment plan.

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Speaker 2: not aware of. Most of it comes from TV, and

434
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Speaker 2: you know, like you guys said, it's a money related thing.

435
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Speaker 2: But you know, we got an opportunity with expansion to

436
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Speaker 2: look at things differently and see if you want to

437
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Speaker 2: tweet some things.

438
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Speaker 5: All right, a couple of things on what was just said.

439
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Speaker 5: First of all, KP, there is a game of the week.

440
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Speaker 5: It's on Saturday night, or actually it's tonight it's Red

441
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Speaker 5: Sox Yankees and Astros at Orioles. So there's two games

442
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Speaker 5: of the week tonight. Tune into your local Fox stations

443
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Speaker 5: to see them.

444
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Speaker 3: But they're not They're not the only they're not the

445
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 3: only two games. That's my point is if those would.

446
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Speaker 5: Never do that, you can never.

447
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Speaker 3: You can never those are the only two games of

448
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Speaker 3: the week. Would they probably get a lot more viewership

449
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Speaker 3: because you know, although they are the premier games of

450
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Speaker 3: the week and they're on national television, fans of their

451
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: own team are probably going to watch their own games

452
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Speaker 3: if they're on. At the same time, I'm trying to

453
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Speaker 3: figure out a way to create like a Monday night

454
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Speaker 3: football for baseball.

455
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Speaker 4: Well two teams, yeah, yeah, we have Sunday Night Baseball.

456
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Speaker 5: And guess what, the company that wanted to broadcast that

457
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 5: didn't want to do it anymore, and now they're out,

458
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Speaker 5: So there's a there's a thing. But then but then

459
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Speaker 5: here Buck, here's my here's my thing. I love this.

460
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Speaker 5: I love the four team or the four Division eight

461
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Speaker 5: team for for Division eight team thing that you came

462
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Speaker 5: up with. I love it because then you could still

463
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Speaker 5: keep a traditional National league American league. The problem is

464
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Speaker 5: you're gonna have to make it like an East versus

465
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Speaker 5: the West or something if you want to cut down

466
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Speaker 5: on travel. And I've had this argument, So do you

467
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Speaker 5: only have the East teams go to the West teams

468
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Speaker 5: once every other year? Do you have to still make

469
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Speaker 5: a trip because that's the same schedule they have now

470
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Speaker 5: where the American League has to go to every team

471
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Speaker 5: in the American League at least once a year. Right,

472
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Speaker 5: So you see that's where like, so you have an

473
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Speaker 5: East basically Division one, the Southeast, Midwest, and then you

474
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Speaker 5: have a West, Southwest, and the division four. So how

475
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Speaker 5: do you divide it and make it like you know,

476
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Speaker 5: East and West? Is that what we're going to do? Then?

477
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Speaker 5: Does the East always play the West? You see? So

478
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Speaker 5: like in the NBA. In the NBA they have an

479
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Speaker 5: East and West, but teams still make a trip to

480
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Speaker 5: each team every year. So that's why that's where baseball

481
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Speaker 5: gets confusing. What does it really change?

482
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Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking that everybody plays everybody. I'm big

483
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Speaker 2: about the integrity of the schedule. I want to know

484
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Speaker 2: that you face the same competition. I get home and away.

485
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Speaker 2: If you do the math, you know, six games whatever. Hey,

486
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Speaker 2: by the way, I've been willing to ask you, guys.

487
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Speaker 2: So you look in the minor leagues you mentioned they're

488
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Speaker 2: playing each other at Kevin, I think six times in

489
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Speaker 2: a row or five times in a row. Could you

490
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Speaker 2: imagine early on in y'all's career. I don't know about now,

491
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Speaker 2: if you played a team five or six times in

492
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Speaker 2: a row, how many fights would there be? In game four? Probably?

493
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Speaker 4: Good?

494
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Speaker 5: You know I'm fighting.

495
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine getting that familiar with all the things that?

496
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Speaker 2: How do I've asked minor league manager, I go, how

497
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Speaker 2: do y'all stay out of skirmishes or fights or confrontation?

498
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Speaker 2: He said, they're just not wired that way anymore.

499
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Speaker 3: They yeah, buck, how many? I mean, what if you

500
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Speaker 3: had to have the same umpar and crew for six

501
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Speaker 3: street days? How many games?

502
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Speaker 2: I got no chance unless unless.

503
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Speaker 3: The best thing that happened to you is after I

504
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 3: was gonna say, the best thing that happened to you

505
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Speaker 3: is after three or four days you're getting a new crew.

506
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But you know what's funny, did you guys find

507
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: the guys that you came up through the minor leagues

508
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Speaker 2: with you got along with better in the big leagues

509
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: like minor league umpires that you you had bounced around

510
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Speaker 2: in different leagues and they had worked their way up.

511
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Speaker 2: There was a different there was a different people skills.

512
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Speaker 2: You know, back then umpires had to have people skills,

513
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Speaker 2: and you know they it would all set the fact

514
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Speaker 2: that they weren't a very good umpire if they knew

515
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Speaker 2: how to handle people.

516
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Speaker 5: Look the minor leagues and we're so far off topic,

538
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 5: but let's just roll with it. Okay. Here's the thing.

539
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Speaker 5: The minor leagues are part of the pitching pitching woes

540
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 5: that we have because they only pitch one day a week.

541
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Speaker 5: They pitch one day a week in high school, they

542
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Speaker 5: pitch one day a week in college. They pich one

543
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Speaker 5: day a week in the minor leagues. And no, by

544
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Speaker 5: the way, when they get to the big leagues, they're

545
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Speaker 5: supposed to pitch every fifth day. They've never done in

546
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Speaker 5: their life. So by eliminating, first of all my biggest

547
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 5: problem with the minor leagues, you eliminate the teams, okay,

548
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 5: which saves money. It always goes back to money for

549
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball. Okay, But then they also eliminated players.

550
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 5: So if you're there's only twenty rounds in the drafts,

551
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 5: you have less players. Therefore you have less opportunities for guys.

552
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Speaker 5: And if you don't go in and you don't perform

553
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 5: right away, teams are like, yep, you're out. You got

554
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Speaker 5: one year, you didn't perform, You're out. You know, there's

555
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 5: less chance to develop guys. And then also got the pitchers.

556
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 5: They never pitched five days, They never pitch on five

557
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 5: days rest. So how do you expect to call him

558
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Speaker 5: up to the best league in the world and say, hey, Buck, Hey,

559
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Speaker 5: uh whoever, Uh, let's we'll use I don't know whoever

560
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 5: you want to use. Pick a guy, Jacob deGrom, Jacob

561
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Speaker 5: b Gram. You only pitch once every week for your

562
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Speaker 5: whole career, and then oh, by the way, you get

563
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Speaker 5: to the big leagues, you got to call him his

564
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Speaker 5: Obviously you're pitching every fifth day and the guy's going

565
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Speaker 5: ow ol out. I've one of the biggest problems, it's crazy,

566
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Speaker 5: one of the biggest problems.

567
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Speaker 2: With taking a Japanese pitcher. And you get a Japanese pitcher,

568
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: they're pitching basically on Friday night. And you know, we

569
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 2: had that issue with sing with the Mets and the

570
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: other part of it a j and that's along the

571
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Speaker 2: lines of what you're talking about. Another day, some guy

572
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Speaker 2: got called up. You know, it was a big prospect,

573
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Speaker 2: so I kind of looked at his pitching log and

574
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Speaker 2: look in the back. He didn't pitch more than four

575
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Speaker 2: or five innings in his starts, and they were talking

576
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Speaker 2: about how he was going to come up and save

577
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Speaker 2: the staff and help their bullpen. Well, if you're pitching

578
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Speaker 2: four innings out of the bullpen every time this guy pitches,

579
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Speaker 2: you're not saving a bullpen. And you know, I think

580
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: where our issue is that we're not I know what

581
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: I started with the minor leagues, and I hate saying that,

582
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: but as a manager, we were not allowed to take

583
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Speaker 2: our guys out of the game before they threw one

584
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: hundred ditches. They said, hey, let them learn how to

585
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: get out of the stuff they should throw between the

586
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: ninety and the hundred, and you leave them out there.

587
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Speaker 2: I remember going out there and going, hey, you notice

588
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: I got nobody having a bullpen. You better figure this

589
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: stuff out. But yet we don't train them for what

590
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: we expect them to do in the big leagues. So

591
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

592
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Speaker 2: What are you all thoughts on that?

593
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Speaker 5: Agreed? Agreed?

594
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Speaker 3: Agreed, Yeah, I agree to you to your point, agent,

595
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Speaker 3: I mean, I would have been a victim of the system.

596
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Speaker 3: You know, I was a thirty second round draft pick.

597
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: I don't even get drafted today, so you know, maybe

598
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen all the time, but you know, I

599
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: hate the fact that they cut the minor league system

600
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Speaker 3: because there's a lot of guys out there that, you know,

601
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: maybe our late bloomers, maybe it took them a little

602
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 3: bit to develop. And in my case, you know, I

603
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: got drafted where I got drafted, but I moved quickly.

604
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: And you know, without having those extra you know, twenty

605
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: twenty five rounds, maybe I don't get an opportunity. Maybe

606
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 3: I'm not sitting here. My life's completely different without the

607
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 3: fifty rounds that there used to be used to be.

608
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Speaker 2: But you know, Kevin, though I guarantee you and I

609
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: don't even know the background, I'll bet you're somewhere along

610
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: the line in your minor league career, some coach or

611
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: manager got you, or a farm director, somebody got you.

612
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: They didn't care where you were drafted, and they kept saying, hey,

613
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: don't forget about polar because they watched you on their

614
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: team compete and help their team win. You know that

615
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: voice of the boots on the ground, guys, guys like you,

616
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: that's how they would get overlooked because some manager didn't

617
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Speaker 2: stand up. Go hold on a second. I know he

618
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: wasn't drafted first, but this guy's a baseball player. Was

619
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: that true me?

620
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 5: Yeah?

621
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Speaker 4: I mean it.

622
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Speaker 3: It happened multiple times in my career. I mean, you know,

623
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Speaker 3: my my first hitting coach in the minor leagues, when

624
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: I was in rookie ball, I got with him. He

625
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: helped me develop routine. You know, he pounded the table

626
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 3: for me to go to the next level. You know,

627
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: my managers in low way fought on the table. We

628
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: got to promote this guy. I don't care what round

629
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: he was in. And you know my Double A manager

630
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: the same thing. You know, I'll never forget a story.

631
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Speaker 3: It was my first at bat in Double A. I'm

632
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: in New Hampshire, Manchester, New Hampshire, freezing cold, my first

633
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 3: at bat, guy hit the lead off doubles the first

634
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: game of the year, and I do everything in my

635
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: power to move this guy over. I'm fighting balls off

636
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: in the dugout and I remember someone telling me like

637
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: a year later, they said, that's how I knew you

638
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: were going to be a big leaguer. And that guy

639
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: stood up for me. And you know, when he had

640
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: an opportunity to, you know, talk to the manager of

641
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: the team the front office, he said, this is the

642
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: type of guy you want. And you know, I think

643
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: that's missing in today's world, is the manager actually of

644
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: your minor league teams having the ability to go out

645
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: and be like, forget about what the stats say, the

646
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: exit velocity, you know, the saber metrics. This guy knows

647
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: how to win. This is the type of guy you

648
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: want on your team. And I was very thankful why

649
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Speaker 3: I came across a lot of managers in the minor

650
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: leagues that would pound the table for me.

651
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: We know happens when your butt's on the line as

652
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: a manager to win games, you are drawn to players

653
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: like that and you're in those meetings. And we used

654
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: to minor at least, we used to have to fight

655
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: over players like you. You know, we want this guy

656
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: in double because we do think could help us win.

657
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: When we left minor league camp with the Yankees, if

658
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: mister Steinner told us we had two jobs, win your

659
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: league and developed players, and that was one and the same,

660
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: he felt like players learning how to win was part

661
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: of development.

662
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 5: Agreed, Agreed, all right, Buck, I got to ask you,

663
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 5: we got to get a little bit on task here

664
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 5: because you always I weren't Kevin when you came on

665
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 5: that you were going to get us off task. And

666
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 5: you're a tremendous set and we love it. We love

667
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 5: you for that, especially when you're driving around and you're

668
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: convertible around Saint Lucy like you do when you come on.

669
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 5: But here's the question. Shojeo Tawani has rules made for

670
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 5: him as far as starting and then you can stay

671
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 5: in the game as a D. But if he is

672
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 5: a reliever, he can't be the DH. Coming as a

673
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 5: reliever and then go back to DH. What are your

674
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: thoughts on this and do you think Major League Baseball

675
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: will change this so he has an opportunity to be

676
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 5: a reliever in the postseason.

677
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: Yes, you know. To me, you gotta be careful. I

678
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: talking to some people that everybody loves this guy, unbelievable talent,

679
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: but talking to some people that when he was with

680
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: other club but what must be the Angels. It creates

681
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: some issues on your pitching staff because the starters don't

682
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: know when necessarily he's gonna pitch when he's gonna slide in.

683
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: Is he gonna pitch on four days? Is gonna pitch

684
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: on five days? Are we gonna give him an extra day?

685
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: Because of this? I always thought that he would have

686
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: been a great closer where he would just d h

687
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: him and when it came time for the eighth or

688
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: ninth inning, he just went over and pitched. And you

689
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: know who cares if you lost your DH because he's

690
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: still hitting. Now you tell me I'm not brought up

691
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: to speed on it is that no longer the case,

692
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: aj Am I missing something.

693
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 5: You lose the DH if he comes in as the pitcher,

694
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 5: so you lose the deal. So let's say he blows

695
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: the game. But then the other problem you have, Buck

696
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: is what comes if you're in the bottom of the

697
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 5: eighth and you're winning two to two or you're tied

698
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 5: two to two. He hits the go ahead single with

699
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 5: two outs and he's on first base, and then you

700
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 5: got to get a pincher run. You can't pinch run

701
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 5: for him, So how does he get loose? That's the

702
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 5: problem with him being a reliever, right so, because especially

703
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: as the closer, how fast have you had to ever

704
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 5: had to get up your closer and say, hey, go

705
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 5: get him. Right when Zach Britton was your closer, you're

706
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 5: tied or you your down run and Adam Jones pop's

707
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: a two run homer for you, and you're like, hey, Zach,

708
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 5: get up, you got you got one minute to get ready, right.

709
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 5: Otani can't do that if he's on base.

710
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would try to do everything I could do

711
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: to make Otani being able to perform, as long as

712
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: the competitive competitive balance for the other team's not warped,

713
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: you know. I So I would try to do whatever

714
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: I could do to make Otani be able to do

715
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: what Otani does. Does that make any sense.

716
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: Totally?

717
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: Hey, I want to go I want to go back

718
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: to the previous conversation. I mean, I think it's kind

719
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: of fitting for you know, changing maybe the integrity of

720
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: the game in terms of divisions, adding two teams. We're

721
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: going to go back to the Savannah Bananas. Realistically, from

722
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: your experience there, you said there's things that major League

723
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: Baseball could adopt. Is there a rule or a certain

724
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: thing that you think major League Baseball could potentially learn

725
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: from the Savannah Bananas that would you know, help the

726
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: game out. Obviously, keep the competitiveness, the integrity of the game,

727
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: but something that stood out to you that would just

728
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: improve the overall quality of the game.

729
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: No, I think it's two different entities. I think Major

730
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: League Baseball and the way they do it. Keep in mind,

731
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: they do this twice a week. Let's see how they

732
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: would be if they did it seven days a week.

733
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: We're traveling around the countries and they've got two or

734
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: three different traveling teams. Now it's not the same team,

735
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: you see. I'm not sure if physically the pitchers could

736
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: stand up if they were doing it seven days a week.

737
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: It one or two days a week. And they'll be

738
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: the first to tell you. And they come in and

739
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: they barnstorm. They hit a city and they get after there,

740
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: it's Starbucks, next day, sign an auto rest. They just basically,

741
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, barnstorm a whole city for two days. I

742
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: don't think a lot of the stuff that they do

743
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: would play long term. I love the fact that they

744
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: got two hours on the board. Like AJ said, but

745
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: you know what, they know how to speed the game up.

746
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: I said, what happens if you're in the third inning

747
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: and two hours up? He goes, oh, no, that won't happen.

748
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: We know how to speed the game up. I go, really, wow,

749
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. But some of the things they do

750
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: on the field, the behind the backs and the spins

751
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: and what have you, it's pretty impressive, guys.

752
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you it's good product. It's a great product.

753
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 5: Hold up, hold up, Scott. Before I know where you're

754
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 5: going to go, but I want to I got to

755
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 5: say this to book. Yeah, it's pretty impressive until JJ

756
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 5: Hardy your shorts up, goes behind the back and makes

757
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 5: an error and then you go grab them by the

758
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 5: throat and say, like they said, don't ever do that again?

759
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 5: Would they say in Major league to him? Right? I mean, yeah,

760
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: it's impressive because it doesn't matter and it's not affecting

761
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: people's livelihood. That's but as soon as it goes to livelihood,

762
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: then you're like, don't ever do that again. JJ.

763
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 2: I saw two guys in my whole career. I gotta

764
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: tell quick JJ's story. JJ was looking for. He was

765
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: the best tager I ever had. JJ could get a

766
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: ball down on a guy faster than anybody, and he

767
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: would wait at the bag and let he said, the

768
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: ball can travel faster than my glove. You see these

769
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: guys go way in front of the bag to take

770
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: the ball and then chase the runner. I know it

771
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: would really piss off the catcher j AJ like you,

772
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: but JJ would let the ball travel. He was starting

773
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: in front, and he would go to the straddle, but

774
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: he would catch a short hop this way instead of this,

775
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: instead of up, because he felt like going up and

776
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: then coming back down cost a half account. He and

777
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: omrvis Kell are the only two guys that ever saw

778
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: catch a short hop this way. Think about it. Try

779
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: that at home sometime. Okay, that was my AJ story,

780
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: JJ story.

781
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: That's good. Like it all right? Last one.

782
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: I'll try and get us back on a popacarea. And

783
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: this has been great. I'm sitting back having a great time.

784
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: This is why we love our buckle up segments. But

785
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: I want to get to something that's pressed this week

786
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: from a manager situation. It's two stories, and I want

787
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: to get your take on how this works. Take us inside. Yesterday,

788
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Boone said Judge isn't going to be one hundred

789
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: percent throwing the rest of the year. Judge was like, Nah,

790
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: he's not watching me throw the last couple of weeks.

791
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: And then we also have Kyle Tucker's situation where you know,

792
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: the team finally kind of admitted that he's been playing hurt.

793
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: So the question is just about injuries, where the manager stands,

794
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: where the team stands, on how much they're monitoring players,

795
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: what's the communication process like on the Yankee side, of course,

796
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: you know Yanks fans buck, they're.

797
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 4: Like, oh, he doesn't know what's going on with the team.

798
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 4: He's not paying attention.

799
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: So so clear this up on what's happening here and

800
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: what gamesmanship goes on in the press.

801
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'm not there. I don't know

802
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: everything's going on behind this and what said and he said.

803
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: But I've always said, why don't we just try telling

804
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: exactly what's going on so we don't have to worry

805
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: about who said this and who said that. And you're

806
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: always sitting down with the player, Hey, I'm getting ready

807
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: to say this. Is this going to be okay? And

808
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: are you going to say this? Because they're going to

809
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: ask me this. I always try to, you know, make

810
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: sure that we were all on the same page. And

811
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: sometimes there's so many people pulling you know, they're never

812
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: going to let the truth get in the way of

813
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: a good story. And I used to tell writers all

814
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: the time, if you care about being right, I'll never

815
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: let you be wrong. And you'd be surprised how that

816
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: kind of separates them. But you know, that's that's a

817
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: simple thing. It's not as big a deal as they

818
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: make it out be Aaron sits down with him in

819
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: days as tell me what it is. Because Aaron's talking

820
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: to the medical people and the trainers and the doctors,

821
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: you know, and they have a certain take on it.

822
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: Now that may not. You know, the last thing Aaron

823
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: Judge is going to do is present himself as somebody

824
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: that you know can't go play right field. He doesn't

825
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: want to do that. The players don't want to have

826
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: that look, especially the captain of the team. So you know,

827
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: that's pretty normal. What's going on with Tucker again.

828
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: So Tucker's been struggling the last six weeks or so.

829
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh's got a hairline fracture. They addressed it. Counsel though

830
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: initially was like now he's finding he's healthy, he's good,

831
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: although maybe that's what they meant now and that you know,

832
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: he sufferated.

833
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: I think back in June and then he was.

834
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: He was hitting okay, but eventually got off kilter, and

835
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: then you know, maybe he's feeling better, but the swing

836
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: is still off. So that whole deal of like what

837
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: you actually share and also how you communicate with that

838
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: that with the player that Kyle Tucker is not a

839
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: very open book. You know, he's a quiet guy. So

840
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: he might have said, Hey, I just want to play

841
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: through it.

842
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 4: Don't tell anyone anything.

843
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was all expression. Be careful, careful

844
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: about telling truths that hurt innocent people. And what happens

845
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: is if you if you made public exactly everything that

846
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: guys were playing with. I mean, this is what's different.

847
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: I used to get on John Harball about it. In Baltimore.

848
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: Played once a week. Man, he's got an off week.

849
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: I said, these guys play through things, not as much

850
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: as maybe they used to. But if you do every

851
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: little thing that was going on. I had a cracked thumb.

852
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: I played the next sixty games with I didn't ever

853
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: brought it up. It was just the way you were raised.

854
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: I remember, I aja one day I got my feet

855
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: cut up, I mean high school basketball ball, and I

856
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: laid on the ground too long. I got home and

857
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: my dad said, Hey, were you hurt or injured? I said, sir,

858
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: were you heard or injured? If you're hurt, get up.

859
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: If you're injured, let's go to the hospital. So you

860
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: got to know the difference between the injuries. Some things

861
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: you can play through, but if they made public every

862
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: little thing somebody was playing with, you'd be shocked at

863
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: some of the things that people would look at and go,

864
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: oh my god, he's playing through this.

865
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 5: Huck Buck. I gotta tell this story. I played middle

866
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: school basketball back, you know, a long time ago, and

867
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: if you would fall down, the coach would have the

868
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 5: other guys come over and literally try to kick you

869
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 5: to get you back up, like they would wouldn't actually

870
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 5: do it, but they were. They would. It was like

871
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 5: a competition to see if we could actually get not

872
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 5: hard kick, Scott, so don't get excited, but like a

873
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 5: little soft kick just to get you up. I mean,

874
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 5: that was the way it was. That's right. That's what

875
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 5: you always ask people, are you hurt or are you injured?

876
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 5: Because there is a major difference.

877
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I scored my first touchdown. I held the ball

878
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: over my head for two seconds. My dad was waiting

879
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: on the front porch. He said, congratulations on the first

880
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: touchdown you'll ever score? You ever scored? I said, no,

881
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: I didn't. He goes ahead it sure acted like it

882
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: and went inside. I never did it again.

883
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: Well, this took us everywhere as expected for KP's first

884
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: experience with Buck Showalter.

885
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: This was a true buckle up time. So Buck, you

886
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: know we love you. This was great.

887
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: Uh, save travels when you get back to Texas and

888
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: then of the Kevin Pullar Buck show Walter matchup on

889
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: the links. But yeah, also, I guess no, he doesn't

890
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: want to go to the game. He wants to listen

891
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: to you.

892
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: AJ coming get him on.

893
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: Hey, j I made my two trips over to cam

894
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: It's kind of emotional for me over there. I know

895
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: all the ushers and the parking attendance and the people.

896
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: You know, we my wife and I. We had a

897
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: lot of great memories there. So you're on your own,

898
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: but I'll listen to you.

899
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: Okay, there you go. That's the game of the week,

900
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 5: and it's the game of the week. Kevin, just letting

901
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 5: you know.

902
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: I'm tuning in. It's gonna be on.

903
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: For ratings are gonna hit. We've been talking about it

904
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: all day. Thanks Buck, We'll catch you soon.

905
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 4: Okay.

906
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: So you guys, thanks for having me.

907
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: Thank you, appreciate you.

908
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 5: All Right, So, uh, I gotta ask Kevin. I know

909
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 5: we're gonna go, but how was your first buckle up?

910
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 5: Because that was what I told you. Yeah, I start

911
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 5: asking questions. You're just gonna hup all over the place.

912
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: That's everything, and I thought it would be in more.

913
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a that's a great guess. That's just

914
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: a segment. You have to, you know, block out of time,

915
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: and there's got to be really no agenda. You just

916
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: got to let kind of buck take the lead. Maybe

917
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: that's what that little him driving in the car kind

918
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 3: of symbolizes. Just hop in that book, take this thing

919
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: where it needs to go, and you're gonna get some

920
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: great content out of it.

921
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 4: It's exactly what I expect.

922
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: If you're on a drive home from work or a

923
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: road trip and you just let that thing run. That

924
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: is the perfect time killer. When you've got a ride

925
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: that you're not looking forward to. You do that for

926
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes and you're like, damn, that felt like

927
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: thirty seconds.

928
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, that was fun.

929
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. It's kind of interesting. When you get

930
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: to like meet him, talk to him, you know, you'll

931
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: have this idea of what he is from the other dugout.

932
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: And I always thought he was kind of a dick,

933
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: you know that maybe his players didn't like to play

934
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: for him. But he seems great. He seems like he

935
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: would love you, care about you, care about your family,

936
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: you know, want to put you in the best spot

937
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: to succeed. I never got that sense from him, you know,

938
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: playing against him, because like mentioned, he was out for blood.

939
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: He wanted to win. You know, I wouldn't even go

940
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: up and try to approach him, even though I wanted

941
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: to talk to him.

942
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: He deeply, deeply cares.

943
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: That There are some people that I've been fortunate enough

944
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: to work with after they're playing or Man, and he

945
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: is on a short list of guys that, like we'll

946
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: call text even anyone they're working with, just to talk

947
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: about the game. Right, Like he's sitting at home and

948
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: he'll reach out to me aj anybody else, right and

949
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: just want to chat about the game. Those are the

950
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: best ones, the lifers that really have like such a

951
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: grip on the sport and passionately care and and this

952
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: is the conversation that we would have aj on the

953
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: phone with him for half hour, so we bring it

954
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: onto the show. Yeah, yeah, that the front that you

955
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: saw KP is not what he is.

956
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 5: Yeah. He'll reach out to you and just say like, hey,

957
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: I was watching this the other day, what do you

958
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: think about this? And I'm like, Buck, like, I'm in

959
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 5: the middle of doing something. You don't have five minutes

960
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 5: for me. I'm like okay, Buck, Yeah, And then the

961
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 5: twenty minutes later you're like, crap, I was in the

962
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 5: middle of something.

963
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: But it's great.

964
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: There's also there's also the flip side to it. There's

965
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: been you know, managers on the other side that seem like, oh,

966
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: they're so cool. They'll come up talk to you during

967
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: the VP, and then you talk to the players and like,

968
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: we hate playing for this guy. He's the worst. So

969
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: I guess it's a lesson on not judging your book

970
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 3: by its cover. And you know, I feel like, now

971
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: getting to know him, just in that short segment, maybe

972
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: he's you know, won that gut away I would have loved.

973
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you guys would have jelled