WEBVTT - Rapper "The DOC" talks Dr. Dre, Snoop and NWA 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.680 Welcome to the gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production off 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.000 iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.840 download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.119 For my Apple users, hit the purple mic on your 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.680 front screen, subscribe to Against the Chronicles. Leave a five 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.880 star rating the comment Okay, gee, this guess that we 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.119 have on today means so much to us. I'm not 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.360 even gonna do the normal intro show Man one of 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.599 my favorite rappers, if not my favorite rapper of all time. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.600 The doc Hey yeah, we got one of the greatest 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:29.680 of all time on here, the doc What's happening with you? 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:29.840 Bro? 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.440 Man, I'm blessed to be stressed, can float up, you know, 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.320 ide on the West West, working with my guys I 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.920 on some new material and really just blessed to be here. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.400 Shit makes me my just hearing you say that. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:51.559 You know, thirty years ago the Chronic came out, So 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:56.520 to have y'all back together working on music, man, And 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.600 when the first Chronic came out, I was eleven years old, 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.080 and I'll never forget what it felt like, you know 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:03.520 what I mean. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.920 So to hear to see pictures. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.880 Of y'all in the studio creating hip hop, not abandoning 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.240 the space, you know what I mean? Because I realized 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.200 as you get older, you start to you know, typically 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.200 people are abandoning the space. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:18.720 And it's not fair. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.320 Because these white kids, they grew up to Aerosmith and 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.520 they get Aerosmith they whole life. So why should I 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.760 not get Doc Dre and Snoop my whole life? 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.119 I feel like, with all due respect, it's old to me. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:39.399 You know, absolutely, it's a pocket that you know, some 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.720 motherfuckers are comfortable in that pocket, and you gotta gotta 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.039 ferry them too, you know what I mean? Like those 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.520 are those are the people you came to the party with. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:53.520 You gotta gotta think about them. But from being back 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.880 into lab with the dog and Dre, it really feel 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:02.520 it really feel like like if it wouldn't have been 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.640 an interruption in the programming, it feels like this would 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.920 have been Snoop's next step. That's what it sounded like. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:15.320 You I mean, dude is elevating and it's I you know, 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:16.720 I don't want to get out off and do it 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.520 because you know, I dread. But the shit is really good. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:28.080 No question, we already know it's brilliant. It just warms 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.600 my heart, man, And I don't want to focus on 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.440 that right the new material because the new material is 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.440 going to be the exploration itself. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.959 And I can't wait to see where y'all at. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.000 But just journeying back to the times that you guys 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:46.600 united for small ideas, right, whether it's Boss is life, 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.079 you know what I mean, or that's that and certain ideas. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.880 You knew always what it could have. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.799 Been, And you said something that that kind of made 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.200 me think, like what would have happened if there were 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.959 no interruptions at that time of the greatest renaissance in 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.560 all of arts? You know what I'm saying, Right around 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.919 the time of the Chronic and Doggie Staff, if there 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.360 was no interruptions. But I feel the same way of 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:14.839 the interruption of you know, after no one does it better, 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.040 no one, you know what I mean. It's it's way 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.160 too much power, you know what I mean? Like the 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:26.000 things you guys were creating were I've literally been on 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:33.280 record explaining to a somebody that has a bachelor's in art, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.560 why that is the greatest renaissance of all art that era, 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:38.160 you know what I mean? 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.880 Because but it goes with the Golden era. Yeah. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:46.560 Yeah, and like y'all records are as popular as the 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:52.000 Mona Lisa. That's really important, and it don't seem and 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.040 me and you have conversations and texts and ideas, and 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.000 sometimes when I listen to you or Drake talk, when 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.800 I talk to y'all separately, I don't think y'all see 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.280 it that way. Like this shit is the Mona Lisa 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.680 to the world now, like how it was to them 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.200 then that was they like this is the Mona Lisa 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.080 today And look at Snoop like like. 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:14.600 Yo, it's the super Bowl. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.120 Like y'all took a culture of guys right who was abandoned, 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:20.200 and you know, the. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.080 World turned it back on and you culturally. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.360 Created a soundtrack to where people had insight, to where 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:30.600 people could help or harm. Yeah, So that type of 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.919 artistic renaissance would never get the true credit. I mean 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.760 you can see now at this point, you know, the 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.440 White House is entering it into you know, whatever they 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.239 little haul, they little their way. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.800 Behind, you know, they always behind. So they entered it 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.040 into you know, the records or whatever they call it. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.039 But it's hilarious to see. 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.159 Such a renaissance, you know, and it took so long 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.479 for people to accept it at the highest level. But 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.840 now when you you know again, like I say, four 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.040 or five months ago, y'all at the Super Bowl. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.240 Yeah, bro, Uh, it came a long way, you know 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.320 what I mean. But it's still. 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.120 It's still a guarded space, you know what I mean. Like, uh, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:14.640 the gatekeepers are really high up, and it's really difficult 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:20.839 to kick open doors, you know what I mean, these days. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:22.480 But you got to keep. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.600 Pushing the line, you know what I mean, because I mean, 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.680 if it ain't for us, who the fuck is it fun? 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:28.479 You know? 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.160 But being able to get back in a situation where 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.800 I can really put some energy into people that I love, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:42.159 it's always a beautiful thing because I've always felt like 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.159 when when they win, it's really the same as me winning, 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.040 you know what I mean. So as most as I 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.479 can get through it, I'm cool with that. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:52.720 Yeah. And you know, Doc, I want to take it 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.800 back to something you just said, and I think it's 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:59.320 important that this is ours. That's why it's important that 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.120 you guys get together, whether it be every other decade, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.960 once a decade or whatever, to do what y'all do, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.880 because it's almost like giving the reminder to the culture, like, 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.279 don't get it twisted. We still here and can smash 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.160 all the time we want to. And I want to 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.359 get back to the beginning because without the past, you 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.279 don't have a future, right. I want to go back, 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.840 and I've never heard this done before. One thing we'd 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.039 like to do is have conversations versus doing interviews, because interviews, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.920 to me, is current. I means you both think that way. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.120 We have to have a conversation with you. When did 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.640 you first meet DREH. 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:37.799 I met dre and Dallas. He knew this dude named 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:45.560 doctor Royer and Dr Rob was helping those guys, you know, 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.360 blow blow their music up and whether it was world 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:55.200 class but the crew or the real early and WA stuff, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.920 and it was the real early NWA stuff, namely boy 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:04.280 in a hood that brought brought those guys to Dallas, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.840 and Uh and me and Drag just kind of hit 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.880 it off, you know, and he said he's gonna produce 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:17.120 some records for that guy that he knew, and he 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.520 ended up producing a few records for him, and we just, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.240 you know, struck up a friendship and it seemed like 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.080 I seemed to seem like we just clicked you know, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.200 and he was like, man, if he was on West Coast, 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.920 we'd be rich. And I was like, shit, okay, let's go. 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.840 You know. That sounds good to me, you know, and 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:39.760 the rest is. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:45.000 Just so better question, better question, beg, bro, what was 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.720 the hip hop scene like in Dallas? Dallas is one 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.440 of those places, you know, since I've been in the industry, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.240 I've been able to go there enough times, you know, 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:55.920 shout out to all my good people, to no cliffs, 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.040 you know what I mean, straight up old nine. But 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:03.480 there's always been this burgeoning scene. To me, even right now, 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.440 they've always moved their own way. That's one of the 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.400 few places to me culturally that has never been tapped. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.120 You know. You see a lot of people wearing. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.320 Shags, you see a lot of their style, the fashion 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.960 get down, you know, you see that answer. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.520 You see some parts of it. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.480 But Dallas as a whole, the culture has never been 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.559 really given a proper shot. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.520 You know what I'm saying. What was the hip hop 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.640 scene like in Dallas at that time? 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.360 It was a lot like it is now. No, Mom, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.720 Dallas just they haven't figured out that you can't make 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.480 it by yourself, like like you. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:46.120 Have to have a. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.600 You have to have a community, you have to have 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:54.400 a movement, movement in order for things to move. There's 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:58.360 not gonna be just one guy that carries nothing on 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.839 one group that I said that pop say, I'm doing 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.640 this for the city. You can't by yourself. It is 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.120 we gotta do it for the city. You can't do it. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.400 If I couldn't do it, it can't be done to 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.760 shame shame man knowing the phrase. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.920 But the cool party is they've always been in a 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:22.679 really good spot because that was Forth Texas full of 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:29.679 really great musician and really supremely talented artists. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.040 The Mouther Thumpers are there. They just have figured out 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:33.400 out of. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.439 I listen to so much underground Dallas music right. 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:43.520 Now, and you're right, Like I think about being a 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.000 child and then now as I you know, but then 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.000 I get the blessing to be able to call you 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.679 called Drake. Karl Schloop asked questions. But I'm thinking about 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.720 it like you're right. When I think about what happened 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.000 for La it wasn't just nu Way. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:57.800 It's ice Tea to some degree. 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.720 So you have the things happening in sitting right with 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.480 Spade and Tea and all of the the rappers, rap 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.880 disco companies. You know, you have the things happening, but 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:11.439 then you have compass most warning, unknown Ice, tea unknown, NWA. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.520 You'll see. So you're right, it was a lot of 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.719 different things. So I get exactly what you're saying when 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:16.240 you say that. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.079 So it was it was a moment a time with 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:25.880 the movement. Shows that I remember it was w A 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:33.720 Ice were doing shows together way back when it wasn't 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:38.679 on West coast per se, on the national level. All 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.679 these guys was together pushing the. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.040 Same way and this is the home. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.720 Of Gang Bang and it was blood niggas. Ain't cuse 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:51.120 niggas off pushing the same line ty to get the 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:55.160 movement started, you know, I mean they they're not ready 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.760 to do that in Dallas, shil they so they call 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.679 the ass end of the Bang the band, so they 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:06.040 don't understand the killing party. They don't understand the building. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.480 You get some money and you don't want to dubage that, 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.599 damn no, like you're not. Nobody's been on man like that. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.880 The money that would be coming in to serve you 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.800 ain't gonna come because scared of them. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:28.680 M h who if you have to pick one Dallas record, right, 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:30.880 And it's funny because I wouldn't want to talk about 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:31.600 Dallas record. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.800 You have to pick what's your favorite Dallas record? From 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:41.079 a Dallas hip hop artist? Me? 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:48.640 Yeah you yeah, okay, okay, still give me a give 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:54.160 me outside of outside of outside of uh oh gee, 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.000 what's your favorite Dallas record? 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:58.600 Like as uh. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.400 There was a group when I first got you him. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:06.680 They was called uh Genocide right wow, a guy named 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.719 six two and a guy named El Dog and that 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.600 an album called Waste of a Color. 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.920 And they was these was black gorillas, you know what 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:16.200 I mean. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:21.679 But and they was banging and then trapping or whatever 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.720 you want to call it. But they had they still 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.520 had the black fist, like you got, like that pick 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.640 on your head. They still had that in their heart, 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.080 you know what I mean. And so even though the 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.240 music was dirty, they had that underlying theme that pulled 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:43.079 pulled motherfuckers together and really outside of you know, it's 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.960 a lot of them down there. Brou a guy named 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:52.199 Big Ally's son is name like Kim And that's a 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:57.400 really cool young dude from uh from from funky Town 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:03.839 that's dope as fuck. There's a a trio guy's names, a. 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:04.640 Lot of them down there. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:12.360 Man Old Dallas as Old Dallaga. Old Dallas Ass Nigga 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:17.000 by Tom Tom is my favorite non doc Dallas record. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.720 And it's crazy to me, right because it makes me 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.400 feel like a Dallas nigga. Like when you find records, 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.520 it's like I could imagine how people feel when they 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.400 first heard Straight out of Counten. That's the vibes I 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.079 get when I hear Old Dallas Ass Nigga by Tom Tung. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.679 And it's crazy because you think of Aero Spence, right, 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.560 He's having all his success as a boxer, you know, 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.959 and you know the Mavericks, you know, the success and 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.280 that culture of Dallas is so glow like it's so natural. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.160 You see it. Rappers from all around the country, rock 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.360 shats like you see the effect. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.560 So I'm just hoping that eventually they figure it out, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:55.439 you know what I'm saying. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.920 That book, But were southern city too, you know, like, uh, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.360 Dallas when it is progressive, there's a lot of other 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.200 places in the country, so you know, it's still locks 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.800 on some of the doors down there. Then they haven't 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.600 gotten into hip hop on a commercial level yet, you know. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:23.400 But when I'm releasing this documentary, I'm hoping I'll be 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.440 able to open a few of those. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.840 Kind of doors and. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.600 Let folks in Dallas seated that there's money in hip 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.600 hop and it's a way that we can go back 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:38.440 in and maybe think some of the problems we have 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.600 in the community ourselves use the hip hop as a tool. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.640 H Yeah, you know, I want to go back. You 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.800 keep trying to take it to the now. I want 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.920 to go back some more because I want to know 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.720 how you was feeling, man, you know you with n 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.520 w A. Now y'all took off, right, and I just 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.760 came out here to California, so that my arrival kind 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:04.800 of coincided with what you're releasing, right, because I came 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.160 out here in eighty seven, late eighty seven, right, and 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.400 y'allly just started a bubbling. I actually remember easy In 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.520 them selling them tapes and see these up at the 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.280 albums up at the conference waping me. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:14.800 Yeah. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.800 There wasn't no CDs back then. Yeah, it was cossetts 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.720 and albums, yeah, real vinyl, Right, So I remember that, 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.840 you know, I remember the moments. How did you feel, man, 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.960 when all the stuff started happening? When when after police, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.200 when the government just really started attacking gangs. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:31.240 The record that scared you. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:36.760 In it, not really, you know, because uh, you know, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:39.720 I didn't know. We didn't know what they hell, we 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.960 don't know. We were just making records, man, Like we 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.680 didn't know that they could come put us in jail. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.600 And no shit, man, I wasn't tripping on none of 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:49.920 that shit. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:50.320 I was. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:52.840 I was really just working my ass off trying to 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:53.920 get to my turn, you. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.440 Know what I mean. Like I'd ran through a wall 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.520 with the motherfuckers just to get to my turn. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:03.040 You know, I feel you, man. And this leads up 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:08.640 to my next question. Your first album, which, for the 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.400 sake of argument, could be one of the best albums 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.400 in the history of hip hop. Yeah, could be one 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.440 of the I just want to know. Do you remember, man, 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.720 when you guys recorded the grand Finale, was y'all in 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:20.360 the same room? 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:22.960 Yeah, yeah, that was. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.480 Everybody was there that day, and everybody was in the 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.440 studio that day. That was the last song. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.000 It was right before it was. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.840 Sent to do this turn out of confer tour, and 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:41.400 everybody was there and Arabian Prince, everybody was in there 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:42.120 that day and. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:45.880 We just killed it, you. 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.080 Know, was y'all all writing y'all verses together, Like I 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.280 just picture it was Cube in one corner writing his 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.560 verse because you were in another corner writing your verse. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:53.960 Yeah. 0:16:54.120 --> 0:17:00.880 I wrote up my verse and easiest verse and laid down, 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:10.280 but n lady Is. Then I laid mine and Q 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:15.480 came late that day, lady Is, and I laid Erikson. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.400 When I lady Is, I wouldn't roll mine over. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:20.760 For. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:24.320 That's what I was gonna ask. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.720 Anybody write some verses over because you and Cube at 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.360 that time. See people, I think, see these younger generation. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.359 They killed no ice Cube as Craig for Friday, you know, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.280 you know, and all that other stuff. I remember ice 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.760 Cube the Bitch Killer. That's ice Cube by no you 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.760 know what I'm saying. That's ice Cube oy no Vinnix 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.720 ice Cube. When y'all got in there. You remember how 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.159 we used to watch the Karate movies when he was 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.400 little and you had Bruce Lee versus on like when 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.919 Bruce Lee forward Kareem ab duke jabbar everybody. That's what 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.840 it was with you and Q. It was like seeing 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.080 the Ring and Bruce Lee fight and it was like, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.080 oh man, you kicked you know, you kick Cube in 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.240 the chest. He got back up to kick you in 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.919 the chest, and it was just like, man, you do 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.880 those was definitely it was a rewind moment in hip hop. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.480 Yeah man, we was having a glass with that ship. 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.040 We were definitely fighting, you know what. 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:16.360 I man? 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.360 Uh, but that's how to get better. It was it 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.240 was respect. It wasn't ego, you know what I mean. 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.520 I knew I couldn't. I couldn't compete with Cube, Like 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.639 what was I just ain't got that that level of 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.080 a bar you know what I mean to do dangsty 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.560 ship like that, it's not gonna come out. So I 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.040 I gotta go out of my way to make my 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.879 shit extra clever or funny or use some sort of 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.840 caters that they that they not with just the stylized mind, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.840 so I can compete with that dude. 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.000 But that's greatness though, because the way you came in broke. 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.760 With the swing and singing the brand new songs to 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.359 the rhythm to talk, and it was just like I 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.200 was like, yeah, my. 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.760 God, what inspired y'all to do that? Posse cut? Was 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.880 posse cuts a thing at that time? 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.680 No, I think. 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.959 That's just because we was all together making a record. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:19.640 Now we had did I Want of Discretion is Advised 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:25.040 on Day record, which is basically the same thing. And 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:30.000 then before that one, it was the Symphony, those those 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.080 kind of records for the cruise Jump On and everybody 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.480 do that thing was already I was already. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:40.160 Out there in space. So uh. But what we did mine, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.479 I was just happy to lose at the last record. 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.359 That's amazing. That's an amazing story. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.720 And it was the perfect album in many ways, man, 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.760 because I remember driving from Los Angeles listening to Mexico 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.080 and we had that album on repeat. It was like 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:58.879 literally like you know how to TAKEE you to just 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:02.400 turn over back? Then it was just on repeat, man, 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.959 and it was probably Gee, I think it's the greatest 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:05.760 album of all time. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:07.080 E hip. 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:15.320 I got a simular story, bro, yeah, he said, uh, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:16.520 he said. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:17.200 Uh. 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.960 He was leaving Arizona, going to the East Coast to 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.959 get away from something and all he had was no 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.040 one could do better on a walkman on a bus 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:33.680 he said, he listened to that tape, oh bus ride there, 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.560 and he knew every freaking word every month from a 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:42.639 syllable of that record. And I respect that, man. I 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.040 appreciate that because I mean, I was trying to give 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:47.960 everything I had in that moment in time. 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.119 Here's a question, what if you had to give credit 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:58.720 to two MC's that was the biggest inspiration of DC style, right, 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.399 because I think your style is really hard, Like I 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.000 can't compare it to anybody's and that's honest. Like I 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.960 can hear where my stuff comes from, but I can't 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.640 hear where yours come from. What would the two mcs 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:14.040 be that you would feel worre that you feel like 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.480 you took that style and made yours. 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:27.840 It's really four of them run Slick Red Krs one 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.480 to Rock Kim, all of those guys. I used a 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:34.439 little bit of each one of those guys, to be honest. 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.640 So the rhythm is just that Southern route. 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.400 Some of it is, yeah, because the way you would 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:45.159 stylize the rhythms, like you never could hear like I 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.240 would hear Rock Kim yeah your stuff, and I couldn't 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.960 like the way you would slide on the record, Like 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:52.919 how I hear all my young parties be like, yeah. 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.520 I'm sliding, and I'm like, yeah, this is sliding yeah 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:55.800 with me. 0:21:56.160 --> 0:22:00.000 So you're like the first hip hop artist that was 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:04.199 sliding on music like that. Everybody else was focused on 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.800 the words or they flow, margin and margin, but yours 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.800 became like almost like it was a snake. 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.399 Like he could just do these weird kind of ins 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:12.840 and outs. 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:18.080