1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production off 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: For my Apple users, hit the purple mic on your 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: front screen, subscribe to Against the Chronicles. Leave a five 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: star rating the comment Okay, gee, this guess that we 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: have on today means so much to us. I'm not 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: even gonna do the normal intro show Man one of 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: my favorite rappers, if not my favorite rapper of all time. 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: The doc Hey yeah, we got one of the greatest 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: of all time on here, the doc What's happening with you? 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: Bro? 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: Man, I'm blessed to be stressed, can float up, you know, 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: ide on the West West, working with my guys I 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: on some new material and really just blessed to be here. 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Shit makes me my just hearing you say that. 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 4: You know, thirty years ago the Chronic came out, So 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: to have y'all back together working on music, man, And 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 4: when the first Chronic came out, I was eleven years old, 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: and I'll never forget what it felt like, you know 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: what I mean. 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: So to hear to see pictures. 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: Of y'all in the studio creating hip hop, not abandoning 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: the space, you know what I mean? Because I realized 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 4: as you get older, you start to you know, typically 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 4: people are abandoning the space. 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: And it's not fair. 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 4: Because these white kids, they grew up to Aerosmith and 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: they get Aerosmith they whole life. So why should I 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 4: not get Doc Dre and Snoop my whole life? 31 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: I feel like, with all due respect, it's old to me. 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, it's a pocket that you know, some 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: motherfuckers are comfortable in that pocket, and you gotta gotta 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: ferry them too, you know what I mean? Like those 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: are those are the people you came to the party with. 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: You gotta gotta think about them. But from being back 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: into lab with the dog and Dre, it really feel 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: it really feel like like if it wouldn't have been 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: an interruption in the programming, it feels like this would 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 3: have been Snoop's next step. That's what it sounded like. 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: You I mean, dude is elevating and it's I you know, 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to get out off and do it 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: because you know, I dread. But the shit is really good. 44 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: No question, we already know it's brilliant. It just warms 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: my heart, man, And I don't want to focus on 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: that right the new material because the new material is 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: going to be the exploration itself. 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: And I can't wait to see where y'all at. 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: But just journeying back to the times that you guys 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: united for small ideas, right, whether it's Boss is life, 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, or that's that and certain ideas. 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: You knew always what it could have. 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 4: Been, And you said something that that kind of made 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: me think, like what would have happened if there were 55 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 4: no interruptions at that time of the greatest renaissance in 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: all of arts? You know what I'm saying, Right around 57 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: the time of the Chronic and Doggie Staff, if there 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: was no interruptions. But I feel the same way of 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 4: the interruption of you know, after no one does it better, 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: no one, you know what I mean. It's it's way 61 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: too much power, you know what I mean? Like the 62 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: things you guys were creating were I've literally been on 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: record explaining to a somebody that has a bachelor's in art, 64 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: why that is the greatest renaissance of all art that era, 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 5: Because but it goes with the Golden era. Yeah. 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like y'all records are as popular as the 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: Mona Lisa. That's really important, and it don't seem and 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: me and you have conversations and texts and ideas, and 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: sometimes when I listen to you or Drake talk, when 71 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: I talk to y'all separately, I don't think y'all see 72 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: it that way. Like this shit is the Mona Lisa 73 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: to the world now, like how it was to them 74 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: then that was they like this is the Mona Lisa 75 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: today And look at Snoop like like. 76 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: Yo, it's the super Bowl. 77 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: Like y'all took a culture of guys right who was abandoned, 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: and you know, the. 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: World turned it back on and you culturally. 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 4: Created a soundtrack to where people had insight, to where 81 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: people could help or harm. Yeah, So that type of 82 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 4: artistic renaissance would never get the true credit. I mean 83 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: you can see now at this point, you know, the 84 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: White House is entering it into you know, whatever they 85 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 4: little haul, they little their way. 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: Behind, you know, they always behind. So they entered it 87 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: into you know, the records or whatever they call it. 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: But it's hilarious to see. 89 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 4: Such a renaissance, you know, and it took so long 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 4: for people to accept it at the highest level. But 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 4: now when you you know again, like I say, four 92 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: or five months ago, y'all at the Super Bowl. 93 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, bro, Uh, it came a long way, you know 94 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: what I mean. But it's still. 95 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: It's still a guarded space, you know what I mean. Like, uh, 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: the gatekeepers are really high up, and it's really difficult 97 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: to kick open doors, you know what I mean, these days. 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 5: But you got to keep. 99 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: Pushing the line, you know what I mean, because I mean, 100 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: if it ain't for us, who the fuck is it fun? 101 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 5: You know? 102 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: But being able to get back in a situation where 103 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: I can really put some energy into people that I love, 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: it's always a beautiful thing because I've always felt like 105 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: when when they win, it's really the same as me winning, 106 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So as most as I 107 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: can get through it, I'm cool with that. 108 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, Doc, I want to take it 109 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: back to something you just said, and I think it's 110 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: important that this is ours. That's why it's important that 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: you guys get together, whether it be every other decade, 112 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: once a decade or whatever, to do what y'all do, 113 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: because it's almost like giving the reminder to the culture, like, 114 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: don't get it twisted. We still here and can smash 115 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: all the time we want to. And I want to 116 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: get back to the beginning because without the past, you 117 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: don't have a future, right. I want to go back, 118 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: and I've never heard this done before. One thing we'd 119 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: like to do is have conversations versus doing interviews, because interviews, 120 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: to me, is current. I means you both think that way. 121 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: We have to have a conversation with you. When did 122 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: you first meet DREH. 123 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 3: I met dre and Dallas. He knew this dude named 124 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: doctor Royer and Dr Rob was helping those guys, you know, 125 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: blow blow their music up and whether it was world 126 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: class but the crew or the real early and WA stuff, 127 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: and it was the real early NWA stuff, namely boy 128 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 3: in a hood that brought brought those guys to Dallas, 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 3: and Uh and me and Drag just kind of hit 130 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: it off, you know, and he said he's gonna produce 131 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: some records for that guy that he knew, and he 132 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: ended up producing a few records for him, and we just, 133 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: you know, struck up a friendship and it seemed like 134 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: I seemed to seem like we just clicked you know, 135 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: and he was like, man, if he was on West Coast, 136 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: we'd be rich. And I was like, shit, okay, let's go. 137 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 5: You know. That sounds good to me, you know, and 138 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 5: the rest is. 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: Just so better question, better question, beg, bro, what was 140 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: the hip hop scene like in Dallas? Dallas is one 141 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: of those places, you know, since I've been in the industry, 142 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: I've been able to go there enough times, you know, 143 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: shout out to all my good people, to no cliffs, 144 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, straight up old nine. But 145 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: there's always been this burgeoning scene. To me, even right now, 146 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: they've always moved their own way. That's one of the 147 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: few places to me culturally that has never been tapped. 148 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: You know. You see a lot of people wearing. 149 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: Shags, you see a lot of their style, the fashion 150 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: get down, you know, you see that answer. 151 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: You see some parts of it. 152 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: But Dallas as a whole, the culture has never been 153 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 4: really given a proper shot. 154 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. What was the hip hop 155 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: scene like in Dallas at that time? 156 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: It was a lot like it is now. No, Mom, 157 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: Dallas just they haven't figured out that you can't make 158 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: it by yourself, like like you. 159 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 5: Have to have a. 160 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: You have to have a community, you have to have 161 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: a movement, movement in order for things to move. There's 162 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: not gonna be just one guy that carries nothing on 163 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 3: one group that I said that pop say, I'm doing 164 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: this for the city. You can't by yourself. It is 165 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: we gotta do it for the city. You can't do it. 166 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 5: If I couldn't do it, it can't be done to 167 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 5: shame shame man knowing the phrase. 168 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: But the cool party is they've always been in a 169 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: really good spot because that was Forth Texas full of 170 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: really great musician and really supremely talented artists. 171 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 5: The Mouther Thumpers are there. They just have figured out 172 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 5: out of. 173 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: I listen to so much underground Dallas music right. 174 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: Now, and you're right, Like I think about being a 175 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: child and then now as I you know, but then 176 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: I get the blessing to be able to call you 177 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 4: called Drake. Karl Schloop asked questions. But I'm thinking about 178 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: it like you're right. When I think about what happened 179 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: for La it wasn't just nu Way. 180 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: It's ice Tea to some degree. 181 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: So you have the things happening in sitting right with 182 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: Spade and Tea and all of the the rappers, rap 183 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: disco companies. You know, you have the things happening, but 184 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 4: then you have compass most warning, unknown Ice, tea unknown, NWA. 185 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: You'll see. So you're right, it was a lot of 186 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: different things. So I get exactly what you're saying when 187 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: you say that. 188 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 3: So it was it was a moment a time with 189 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: the movement. Shows that I remember it was w A 190 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: Ice were doing shows together way back when it wasn't 191 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: on West coast per se, on the national level. All 192 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: these guys was together pushing the. 193 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 5: Same way and this is the home. 194 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: Of Gang Bang and it was blood niggas. Ain't cuse 195 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: niggas off pushing the same line ty to get the 196 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: movement started, you know, I mean they they're not ready 197 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: to do that in Dallas, shil they so they call 198 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: the ass end of the Bang the band, so they 199 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: don't understand the killing party. They don't understand the building. 200 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: You get some money and you don't want to dubage that, 201 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 3: damn no, like you're not. Nobody's been on man like that. 202 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 5: The money that would be coming in to serve you 203 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 5: ain't gonna come because scared of them. 204 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: M h who if you have to pick one Dallas record, right, 205 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: And it's funny because I wouldn't want to talk about 206 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: Dallas record. 207 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: You have to pick what's your favorite Dallas record? From 208 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 2: a Dallas hip hop artist? Me? 209 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah you yeah, okay, okay, still give me a give 210 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: me outside of outside of outside of uh oh gee, 211 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: what's your favorite Dallas record? 212 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 5: Like as uh. 213 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: There was a group when I first got you him. 214 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: They was called uh Genocide right wow, a guy named 215 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 3: six two and a guy named El Dog and that 216 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: an album called Waste of a Color. 217 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 5: And they was these was black gorillas, you know what 218 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 5: I mean. 219 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 3: But and they was banging and then trapping or whatever 220 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: you want to call it. But they had they still 221 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: had the black fist, like you got, like that pick 222 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: on your head. They still had that in their heart, 223 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so even though the 224 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: music was dirty, they had that underlying theme that pulled 225 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 3: pulled motherfuckers together and really outside of you know, it's 226 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: a lot of them down there. Brou a guy named 227 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 3: Big Ally's son is name like Kim And that's a 228 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: really cool young dude from uh from from funky Town 229 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 3: that's dope as fuck. There's a a trio guy's names, a. 230 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 5: Lot of them down there. 231 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: Man Old Dallas as Old Dallaga. Old Dallas Ass Nigga 232 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 4: by Tom Tom is my favorite non doc Dallas record. 233 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: And it's crazy to me, right because it makes me 234 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: feel like a Dallas nigga. Like when you find records, 235 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: it's like I could imagine how people feel when they 236 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: first heard Straight out of Counten. That's the vibes I 237 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 4: get when I hear Old Dallas Ass Nigga by Tom Tung. 238 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 4: And it's crazy because you think of Aero Spence, right, 239 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: He's having all his success as a boxer, you know, 240 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 4: and you know the Mavericks, you know, the success and 241 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: that culture of Dallas is so glow like it's so natural. 242 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: You see it. Rappers from all around the country, rock 243 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: shats like you see the effect. 244 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 4: So I'm just hoping that eventually they figure it out, 245 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 246 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: That book, But were southern city too, you know, like, uh, 247 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: Dallas when it is progressive, there's a lot of other 248 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: places in the country, so you know, it's still locks 249 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: on some of the doors down there. Then they haven't 250 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: gotten into hip hop on a commercial level yet, you know. 251 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: But when I'm releasing this documentary, I'm hoping I'll be 252 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: able to open a few of those. 253 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 5: Kind of doors and. 254 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: Let folks in Dallas seated that there's money in hip 255 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: hop and it's a way that we can go back 256 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: in and maybe think some of the problems we have 257 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: in the community ourselves use the hip hop as a tool. 258 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: H Yeah, you know, I want to go back. You 259 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: keep trying to take it to the now. I want 260 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: to go back some more because I want to know 261 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: how you was feeling, man, you know you with n 262 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: w A. Now y'all took off, right, and I just 263 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: came out here to California, so that my arrival kind 264 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: of coincided with what you're releasing, right, because I came 265 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: out here in eighty seven, late eighty seven, right, and 266 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: y'allly just started a bubbling. I actually remember easy In 267 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: them selling them tapes and see these up at the 268 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: albums up at the conference waping me. 269 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 270 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: There wasn't no CDs back then. Yeah, it was cossetts 271 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: and albums, yeah, real vinyl, Right, So I remember that, 272 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, I remember the moments. How did you feel, man, 273 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: when all the stuff started happening? When when after police, 274 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: when the government just really started attacking gangs. 275 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: The record that scared you. 276 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: In it, not really, you know, because uh, you know, 277 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: I didn't know. We didn't know what they hell, we 278 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: don't know. We were just making records, man, Like we 279 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: didn't know that they could come put us in jail. 280 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: And no shit, man, I wasn't tripping on none of 281 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: that shit. 282 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: I was. 283 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: I was really just working my ass off trying to 284 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: get to my turn, you. 285 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 5: Know what I mean. Like I'd ran through a wall 286 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 5: with the motherfuckers just to get to my turn. 287 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: You know, I feel you, man. And this leads up 288 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: to my next question. Your first album, which, for the 289 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: sake of argument, could be one of the best albums 290 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: in the history of hip hop. Yeah, could be one 291 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: of the I just want to know. Do you remember, man, 292 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: when you guys recorded the grand Finale, was y'all in 293 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: the same room? 294 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that was. 295 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: Everybody was there that day, and everybody was in the 296 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: studio that day. That was the last song. 297 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 5: It was right before it was. 298 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: Sent to do this turn out of confer tour, and 299 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: everybody was there and Arabian Prince, everybody was in there 300 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: that day and. 301 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 5: We just killed it, you. 302 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: Know, was y'all all writing y'all verses together, Like I 303 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: just picture it was Cube in one corner writing his 304 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: verse because you were in another corner writing your verse. 305 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 306 00:16:54,120 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: I wrote up my verse and easiest verse and laid down, 307 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: but n lady Is. Then I laid mine and Q 308 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: came late that day, lady Is, and I laid Erikson. 309 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 3: When I lady Is, I wouldn't roll mine over. 310 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: For. 311 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask. 312 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: Anybody write some verses over because you and Cube at 313 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: that time. See people, I think, see these younger generation. 314 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: They killed no ice Cube as Craig for Friday, you know, 315 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, and all that other stuff. I remember ice 316 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: Cube the Bitch Killer. That's ice Cube by no you 317 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's ice Cube oy no Vinnix 318 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: ice Cube. When y'all got in there. You remember how 319 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: we used to watch the Karate movies when he was 320 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: little and you had Bruce Lee versus on like when 321 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: Bruce Lee forward Kareem ab duke jabbar everybody. That's what 322 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: it was with you and Q. It was like seeing 323 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: the Ring and Bruce Lee fight and it was like, 324 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: oh man, you kicked you know, you kick Cube in 325 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: the chest. He got back up to kick you in 326 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: the chest, and it was just like, man, you do 327 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: those was definitely it was a rewind moment in hip hop. 328 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah man, we was having a glass with that ship. 329 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: We were definitely fighting, you know what. 330 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 5: I man? 331 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 3: Uh, but that's how to get better. It was it 332 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: was respect. It wasn't ego, you know what I mean. 333 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: I knew I couldn't. I couldn't compete with Cube, Like 334 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: what was I just ain't got that that level of 335 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: a bar you know what I mean to do dangsty 336 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: ship like that, it's not gonna come out. So I 337 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: I gotta go out of my way to make my 338 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: shit extra clever or funny or use some sort of 339 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: caters that they that they not with just the stylized mind, 340 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: so I can compete with that dude. 341 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: But that's greatness though, because the way you came in broke. 342 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: With the swing and singing the brand new songs to 343 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: the rhythm to talk, and it was just like I 344 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, my. 345 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: God, what inspired y'all to do that? Posse cut? Was 346 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 2: posse cuts a thing at that time? 347 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 5: No, I think. 348 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 3: That's just because we was all together making a record. 349 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: Now we had did I Want of Discretion is Advised 350 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: on Day record, which is basically the same thing. And 351 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: then before that one, it was the Symphony, those those 352 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: kind of records for the cruise Jump On and everybody 353 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: do that thing was already I was already. 354 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 5: Out there in space. So uh. But what we did mine, 355 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 5: I was just happy to lose at the last record. 356 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: That's amazing. That's an amazing story. 357 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: And it was the perfect album in many ways, man, 358 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: because I remember driving from Los Angeles listening to Mexico 359 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: and we had that album on repeat. It was like 360 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: literally like you know how to TAKEE you to just 361 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: turn over back? Then it was just on repeat, man, 362 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: and it was probably Gee, I think it's the greatest 363 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: album of all time. 364 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: E hip. 365 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: I got a simular story, bro, yeah, he said, uh, 366 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: he said. 367 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 368 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: He was leaving Arizona, going to the East Coast to 369 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 3: get away from something and all he had was no 370 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: one could do better on a walkman on a bus 371 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 3: he said, he listened to that tape, oh bus ride there, 372 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: and he knew every freaking word every month from a 373 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: syllable of that record. And I respect that, man. I 374 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: appreciate that because I mean, I was trying to give 375 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: everything I had in that moment in time. 376 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 4: Here's a question, what if you had to give credit 377 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 4: to two MC's that was the biggest inspiration of DC style, right, 378 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 4: because I think your style is really hard, Like I 379 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: can't compare it to anybody's and that's honest. Like I 380 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 4: can hear where my stuff comes from, but I can't 381 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 4: hear where yours come from. What would the two mcs 382 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: be that you would feel worre that you feel like 383 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 4: you took that style and made yours. 384 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: It's really four of them run Slick Red Krs one 385 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: to Rock Kim, all of those guys. I used a 386 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 3: little bit of each one of those guys, to be honest. 387 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: So the rhythm is just that Southern route. 388 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 4: Some of it is, yeah, because the way you would 389 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 4: stylize the rhythms, like you never could hear like I 390 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: would hear Rock Kim yeah your stuff, and I couldn't 391 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: like the way you would slide on the record, Like 392 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 4: how I hear all my young parties be like, yeah. 393 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm sliding, and I'm like, yeah, this is sliding yeah 394 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: with me. 395 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: So you're like the first hip hop artist that was 396 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 4: sliding on music like that. Everybody else was focused on 397 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: the words or they flow, margin and margin, but yours 398 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: became like almost like it was a snake. 399 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: Like he could just do these weird kind of ins 400 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: and outs. 401 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: And that that that album is not used enough by mcs. 402 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Right now, it is Joe, it is g I'm gonna 403 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: tell you, the Midwest almost made a whole new sub 404 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: genre just off of DC style. DC is the precursor 405 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: to Bone Thugs, Harmony style. He's the precursor to Twister. 406 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: He's the precursor to a whole bunch of guys, and 407 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: the guys the Midwest really gravitated to it. And I 408 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: know that because I'm a Midwest dude. Until you heard DC, 409 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: like you said, he wasn't going to march to march. 410 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: He was almost stuttering stepping like he was, you know, 411 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: chopping his feet. I said, man, he was really doing 412 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, he had to display of verbal gymnastics going 413 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: on to where at that time it was unfairly wasn't 414 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: nobody else rapping like that? 415 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: That was stud of stepping. That's what that's what that's 416 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: what I turned it back in those days. But it's 417 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 3: really just an expansion of some technique that I heard 418 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 3: a guy named just Ice Hues. I just expanded it 419 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: and switched the cadence around during it, like he did 420 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: a thank card. He had a thank call. Was the 421 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: name of that fucking record? I forget what the name 422 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: of the brother it is? He said, look at the littles, 423 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: just what I do whenever I get excited. And so 424 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 3: I just kept that going as long as I could 425 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 3: do it. And you couldn't do it the same way. 426 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: Otherwise you wouldn't have the room to breathe. So it 427 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 3: forced you to dance with it, you know what I mean. 428 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: And then then it kind of created it created itself, 429 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: you know. 430 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what I noticed. G All the 431 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: greatest rappers would tell you that they're not the greatest, 432 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: like I said them here. When I interviewed Starface, one 433 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: of my faceapers, right, he gave q the same admiration 434 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: that you gave him. 435 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: He said. 436 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: When I said, Brad, you're the baddest mother for everyone 437 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: to come to that gags stuff, he said, no, he 438 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: got mad at me. No, don't say that, q O 439 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: Shak Jackson. He's the greatest, and you just gave it 440 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: up to him. So I guess Q gotta be in 441 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: some regards between him and Snoop as the greatest gangster 442 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: rappers ever of all time. 443 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: No, but no question you're talking about he's talking about 444 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: two different categories. 445 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, thank you is the concrete is the 446 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: black and with attitude. 447 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah it's Snoop is. Yeah, it's what they call it. Well, 448 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: well World War the mac though and pick up all 449 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: his bowels. 450 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 5: That's that's Snoop. That's that's Snoop. 451 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's two different. 452 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 4: It is and and and and that's what people don't 453 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: understand about this culture, like it's been relegated to just 454 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 4: violence versus the type of people I saw my whole life. 455 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean where it was. 456 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: It just represented people that was gonna earn a life 457 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: and create a life better for themselves at all costs. 458 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 4: And I hate it's been relegated to just ignorance and 459 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: doing dope. It's just it's way more than that. And 460 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: so I and I was blessed to grow up under 461 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 4: the stuff y'all was doing, and I got to see 462 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 4: all of it in the streets through the music. You know, 463 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: it wasn't just one type of gangster. It wasn't just 464 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 4: some ignorant person just saying something. It was like, you 465 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 4: could have Cube with that fist and that attitude, and 466 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: I could have Dot with that pizazz, and I could 467 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: have Eric, and I could have Snoop and you know, 468 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: you could see that it can be so many different things. 469 00:25:50,119 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not it's never just not nothing mean, it's 470 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: right now. Wow, it's a purpose for it, you know 471 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: what I mean. So that's the difference between what these 472 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: niggas is doing now and what he was doing then. 473 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: There was that was a purpose, kid. He was trying 474 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: to show you a better. 475 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 5: Way, not the way. 476 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 4: Is there a moment? When was the moment, if there 477 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: is one, When was the moment that you knew like, 478 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 4: all right, this is going to be crazy? 479 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: How how far is that alone? And the journey from 480 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: meeting Dre. 481 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 4: And Dallas too even Doggy Style, Where where in between 482 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 4: that time did you know like, oh, yeah, this is 483 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: gonna be bigger than anything that's ever happened before. 484 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: That's the question. 485 00:26:54,359 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got being pretty fast, you know, like once 486 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: you did once we did the We Want Easy record, 487 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: it took about two weeks, man, and then then that 488 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: shit was everywhere, and you just knew did we go? 489 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: You know that it was the first video to a 490 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: shot and uh, the world fell in love with that song. 491 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 3: And it was really young after that. As far as 492 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: myself personally, when I did Doctor the Doctor, well really 493 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: all those records, man, because it was. 494 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 5: It was twelve songs. 495 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: I think on that album only did thirteen records, dre 496 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: and I only did. 497 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 5: We've only done thirteen records together. That's it, you know 498 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 5: what I. 499 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 2: Mean, really think about. 500 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: It, oh man and whatever up on that record. And 501 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 3: so but I did Let the Base Go and WorldWind 502 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: Pyramid six months before I even got to California. Before 503 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: I moved back to California, I did those two records 504 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: as demos and easies mother's garage and didn't come back 505 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: to those to even touch him to put on the 506 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 3: record until almost a year later. You know what, man, 507 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: So I kind of knew I was good and me 508 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: and Trey together was really good. So when I did 509 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: In the Doctor in the studio, bro. 510 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 5: That shit was so loud, it. 511 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: Was so noisy. 512 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: I could just feel like, man, man, I'm ta or 513 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: I knew I did that, brother, because because face was 514 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: the pain in and when that motherfucker went forth and 515 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: this boys on top of that shit, you had to 516 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: move the. 517 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 5: Fuck out the way and let me do what I'm doing. 518 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: Real you know, you just mentioned Easy Man, and I 519 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: swear Easy don't get enough credit for what he's done 520 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: for hip hop. You know what I'm saying. I don't 521 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: think Eric Right get the justice. You know, he's done 522 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff for a lot of people, 523 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: just for hip hop in general. Man and Right, how 524 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: was it dealing with Eric Man? Because everybody got to 525 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: know the new Easy They got a bunch of different stories. 526 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: They say, one of the funniest people he ever met, 527 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: man whoever met? And they said that Easy would do 528 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: stuff just to freak you out. What was the craziest 529 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: thing you ever saw? Easy Dodog. 530 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 5: Veric's a good dude. Man ever was a good guy. 531 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: He was. 532 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: No nonsense. Somebody's business, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 533 00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: his business and was black, I mean scarlet like it is. 534 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 5: This dude was blessed enough to pull. 535 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: Three or four some of the best that the West 536 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: would produced and put them cats in the same room 537 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: together to make a record. 538 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 5: And that's a blessing. Nobody's been able to do nothing 539 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 5: like that since. And he is blessed enough to have. 540 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: For Drada be in his corner like that, because drags 541 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: the cornerstone to all of this shit like it exists 542 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 3: without that dude. 543 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 5: It all goes through his blessing, you know what I mean? 544 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: We got blessed because he got a gift, and so 545 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: easy was blessed enough to have that guy on his 546 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: team and have a Cube on his team, and they 547 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: have Doc on his team, and I ran on his 548 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: team like you can't lose like that. I mean, you 549 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: got that, you got everything. 550 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: Now, fast forwarded to the documentary the doc right. I 551 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: remember when y'all was working on it. I came to 552 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: a snoop studio. Y'all was shooting ideas if there was 553 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: something that was tough to revisit when y'all was working 554 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: on the Dock documentary, what was the toughest thing to 555 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 4: revisit about that whole journey? 556 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: Your whole journey period so far? 557 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 5: Man, Look, none of that shit was tough to let 558 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 5: go of. I was. I was thinking God to be 559 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 5: able to let go of that goddamn pain. 560 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: I didn't want that no more. I'm tired of stuff 561 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: from behind that shit. I'm ready to let that shit go. 562 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 3: And really that's what that's what the documentary is showing 563 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: you seeing the old laughin in the hell in front 564 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: of the whole world and as dope as fuck, you 565 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And I still got battles to 566 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: fight with in this industry because I'm a maverick, you 567 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I don't belong to nobody, and 568 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: so I'm not getting nobody, motherfucking ass to do nothing. 569 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let Yod drive this car, you know, and 570 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: wherever he's driving that, I'm going because all the reason 571 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: they putting me back into life is because it's something 572 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: he wanted me to do, and so I'm doing that 573 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: for all the other shit. 574 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: I feel you, man, Together the. 575 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: Whole journey of this documentary, it actually ended up becoming 576 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 4: healing for you. 577 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: That's the that's the reality of it. 578 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man, I'm. 579 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: Excited to see it. 580 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: Man, I didn't see I got offered to see parts 581 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 4: as y'all was working on. Like now, I need to 582 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: see it all together. It's like hearing, like hearing a song, 583 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 4: you can never really get it like I needed to hear. 584 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 4: No one does it better, and it's it's weird because 585 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 4: I was on Still about this and I emailed Dre 586 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 4: about this, like we don't do a great enough job, 587 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 4: you know, especially doctor Dredge brilliant and production of celebrating 588 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: all of these artistic contributions. This documentary. I'm sure you 589 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: know it's gonna be stellar. People gonna lose their mind. 590 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: But I think it's time to start having those conversations 591 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 4: about those albums. No one, No one does it better 592 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 4: than a doggy style of chronic. These are the documentaries 593 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 4: we're not doing a great job of presenting. Like when 594 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 4: we get mad at all, I tell Snoop. I remember 595 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 4: talking with Snoop and telling me like, y'all so mad 596 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 4: that we don't know nothing, but y'all don't tell us nothing. 597 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 4: Like if I didn't have Olivia Rest in Peace. 598 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: My mom, I wouldn't know who doc is. And she 599 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: gave me the She's like, YO, listen to this, this, dude? 600 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 5: Is it? 601 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 4: So if I'm not passing on y'all experiences, you know, 602 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: I have to pass on y'all. 603 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: Experiences to all my young homes. 604 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: Like whether it be Kendricks, I'm telling him stuff about 605 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 4: y'all that he didn't know, you know. 606 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: So I think we have to do a lot better. 607 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 4: So that's why I'm really glad you got you sat 608 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 4: down and found face to do this documentary because people 609 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 4: need to know what you what you've been through, and 610 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 4: what actually they can do it. If you see what 611 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 4: somebody can do, that's the easiest way to aspire. 612 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: They can see it. You know what I'm saying. 613 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: Boy, I tell you, I tell them like this. It's 614 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: it's I'm thankful and grateful for it, no question about it. 615 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 5: But it's a g O D thing. It's not a 616 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 5: BOC thing. 617 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: And and my mission is different from these other guys. 618 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: He wouldn't back out, he had come back on probably 619 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: got a phone called in. 620 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, sorry about that. So my mix is different 621 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 3: from these guys, bro, like I might face uh a 622 00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: hearder way in because it's God's shit, you know, man, 623 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: the world is still in the world, you know what 624 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: I mean. And the gay keepers a house in the air. 625 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: But I'm a believer of my nigga. Jild said, you're 626 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 3: gonna give it to him. So I've not already made 627 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 3: the artist and it hasn't found a home yet, right, 628 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: but every single person that is seen as them losing you, right, 629 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: lose their fucking mind over. 630 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 5: What they do. 631 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: Why I was in I was in dry break up 632 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 3: and had a two hundred movies. Motherfucker wrote in mind 633 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: in the ten a two hundred families. 634 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 4: My first shot at you is that really surprising those doctor? 635 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: That should be a surprise that when do when do you? 636 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 2: When do you realize? It's easy? It's so and it's 637 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: fair because you were so. 638 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: I feel like the way about Magic Johnson, Well you 639 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 4: knew what it was when you saw, but you didn't 640 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 4: see the whole progression of it, right, So again, your 641 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 4: storytelling ability was never limited to what you could write 642 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 4: and recite through the microphone. 643 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 2: It's also what you could tell people. 644 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 4: The three conversations I've had with you on just record 645 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 4: writing has been just instrumental, Like it's important. So I 646 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 4: really want you to keep pursuing this space of film, 647 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and the. 648 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: Doc documentary No One does It Better, like these are. 649 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 4: Important things for people to know your journey and also 650 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 4: for you to keep artistically contributing. You know what I'm saying, like, 651 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 4: because you're just as important as I mean, I don't 652 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 4: got to tell you, because you know you're just as 653 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 4: important to every project. All of these projects without them 654 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: kind of they lose something that's really artistically brilliant. 655 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and one thing that I want to land on 656 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: something you just see. And this is the one thing 657 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: that takes me pisses me off about the industry period. 658 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: Somebody in one of these buildings should have been winning 659 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: just cut this man in check and said, hey, we 660 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: want you to run our whole rap department. It just 661 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: makes too much sense, right, It's just too much like right, 662 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying to where our artists man, 663 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: And that's what pisses me off. It's like we almost 664 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: havetion date from the time we come into the game. 665 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: They put the expiration date onless. They say, Okay, at 666 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: this time he's over with and they stopped dealing with it. 667 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: When that's not the case because he's still as Brilliant's 668 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: probably more brilliant now. You're probably more brilliant now than 669 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: you were when you're in your twenties or something. 670 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: Right, not more understanding, bro, lot more understanding. I realized 671 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 3: I got I got less days in in front of 672 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 3: me than I do behind. But Lepis Kid is what 673 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 3: I'm on right now, right, and so what can I 674 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 3: do that when I live, when I'm gone, I just 675 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 3: want to they'll say he did that. And it's not 676 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 3: about rap music. It's tomorrow black music. And I use 677 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: that term loosely because what I really mean is unification 678 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: of my people right to help these young boys in 679 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: the hood understand that killing each other. I ain't the 680 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: lit like. I want you to get that money. I 681 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 3: want you to have it by any means necessary. But 682 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: I want you to at least at least if you 683 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 3: pointing to that at your brother, put that gun down 684 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: now you hold onto it because you might need it, 685 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 3: you know, with all that killing each other, that's some 686 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 3: bullshit and we gotta deal with that shit by any means. 687 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: And I mean that shit like and so that's that's 688 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 3: what my art at and I got kild behind me. 689 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take this documentary and this message and 690 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 3: if I got to go sell twenty million tickets walking 691 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 3: all over the world to make my twenty million out. 692 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 5: Of Loto like that, oh no, take this message to 693 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 5: the hood and make it do with a do no. 694 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: Did you have expected release date for the documentary. 695 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 5: Don't have a home yet. You know I got you know, 696 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 5: you go to huh are you serious? Yeah? Yeah, you 697 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 5: go to drive that the to uh you know, to. 698 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 3: Premier the film, and then they they all get together 699 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: in rooms and figure out, you know, it's gonna beat 700 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 3: up domestic partner and streaming. 701 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 5: It's gonna be the theatrical part in the world. 702 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 3: And so some folks woun come to to the table, 703 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 3: would offer a theatrical worldwide, which is not a bad deal, 704 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 3: and some folks come with with domestic theatrical and so, uh, 705 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 3: you know, it's going slow. Maybe they welcome it because 706 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 3: they think I'm gonna get. 707 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 5: But I'm not. The movie. Ain't mind anywhere it's done 708 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 5: or whatever you need want. 709 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't give a damn word where it 710 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 3: come from, because I know sanity. 711 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 5: You know what I mean exactly. 712 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: I'm so excited about that doctor. Are you aware of statement? Yeah? Yeah, 713 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: I already know. 714 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 4: I already know the people that was working on they 715 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 4: was people that was working on it was fired up. 716 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 4: So I knew it was gonna respect when they called 717 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 4: me because I had an hour long conversation with somebody 718 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 4: specifically about you. So when they started to work and 719 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 4: they couldn't wait to call me and tell me. So 720 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 4: it's it's important, man that I'm so glad that you 721 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 4: are consistently pursuing. 722 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 2: Uh uh, giving us content. 723 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, not being limited by whatever's 724 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 4: happening pass and understanding. There's so many more ways, man, 725 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 4: it's so many more ways and your message and we 726 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 4: talked about that probably over the phone, about where you 727 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 4: at with the violence, you know what I mean. 728 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 2: So you have a lot of work, so many ways 729 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: to do it now. 730 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 4: It's a real ul what you're doing. 731 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: Exactly right, exactly So before we go to r C, 732 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: because I appreciate you, you know, taking time out your 733 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: schedule to sit down with us, I want to ask 734 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: you one more question. It's just me for a fan standpoint. 735 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: Where was you at when you first heard no vasselin. 736 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 3: I was up there's an actress, her name is uh 737 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 3: Jinny King, my father, and then I was over there 738 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 3: with with her and some friends that heard and they 739 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 3: must have just hit the floor. They loved every minute 740 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 3: of that ship, in that moment of time, In that 741 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 3: moment in time, I was so happy that qube let 742 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 3: me breathe you know what I mean. 743 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 4: Because he cleaned the house, the chickens came home, the 744 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 4: ruse with that one man. 745 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, Doc, I think if he hadn't put 746 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 1: you in there, I think you would have had something. 747 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 3: Nah that would have been like that would have been 748 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: too much like pushing down. 749 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 5: A handicap kid. 750 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: Man. You can't do mad. 751 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 5: It wasn't like that man had been a bully. You 752 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 5: can't beat up doc man. He can't fight back. But 753 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 5: he knew that that he knew that anything I was 754 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 5: doing over there, I was doing because that was my job. 755 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 5: You know, I. 756 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 3: Loved Cube. I always have always respected him. It's always 757 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 3: been him. Like when you see the documentary. One thing 758 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 3: about this documentary, bro Q dresnw. 759 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 5: By do him all. 760 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 3: These people, it's how they talk like like how they 761 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 3: look talking like you have never seen Dre. You ain't 762 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 3: never seen Dre like this, bro You ain't just you've 763 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 3: never seen doctor Dre act. 764 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 5: Like this on camera. 765 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 3: It just you don't see a billionaire. You just see 766 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 3: a nigga that love his brother, you know what I mean. 767 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 3: You don't same thing with Snoop and you you don't 768 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 3: see these icons. You just see niggas love they nigga. 769 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 3: You know what I mean that it ain't a back 770 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 3: then they like, Man, look you know what I mean, 771 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 3: And by do there's a couple of scenes in there 772 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 3: that if I do have that'll make you your bump 773 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 3: stand up on your arm. The way she talked to her, 774 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 3: that the man I showed you every example of black 775 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 3: love that exists on this planet in that hour and 776 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 3: a half between mother and father, brother and sister, friends. 777 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 5: Lovers, colt parents, man and wife. 778 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 3: I give you everything on a popular level, and I 779 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 3: don't say nothing negative about none of them niggas. I 780 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,959 Speaker 3: give up all of my dirt door, every funky ship 781 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 3: stained in my draws out here because I really don't 782 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 3: give them buck. 783 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Like I had to walk 784 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 5: that math. 785 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm still here and I'm still 786 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 3: standing strong and I'm still not selling out, and the 787 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 3: woods can't be in me and the niggas can't break. 788 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: So you know the thing left, God, get God the 789 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 3: glove and go get the money for. 790 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: Sure, and it's gonna happen for you, man, and anything 791 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: we can do over here, man the digital soapbox to 792 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: help you with that, Man, we got you. 793 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 5: I appreciate you. 794 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 4: We're gonna sit down, I'm gonna get on your line, 795 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 4: and we're. 796 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 2: Gonna have a real hip hop conversation. 797 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 4: See this right here was more about Doc, but the 798 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 4: things I know you know about him from your perspective 799 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 4: would be a much more intriguing conversation. So I look 800 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 4: forward to always Politically, you wanted to be one of 801 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 4: the greatest on one fucking album, one. 802 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 5: Out up and focused one love on for real. 803 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: Sure, man, we appreciate you, man. And when I say 804 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: we appreciate you, I don't mean likely we really appreciate. 805 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 2: You in in the interview, but like the real you know. 806 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: Really appreciate you, bro. Because your album took me through 807 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: a lot of times. I feel like I became a 808 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: grown man listening to you out and that's me being real. 809 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: That was my soundtrack. God bless were out of here. 810 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: Well that concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. 811 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to download I Heard That and subscribe to 812 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: Against the Chronicles podcast for Apple users. Find that purple 813 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: mic on the front screen of your phone. Subscribe to 814 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: the show leaf for comment and a rating. Executive producers 815 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: for The gangst The Chronicles of Norms, st James McDonald 816 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: and Aaron m c a. Taylor. Our visual media director 817 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: is Brian White. Shows audio editor is Taylor Hayes. The 818 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles here's the production of The Black Effect Podcast 819 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: Network and iHeartMedia. Any questions and comments hit us up 820 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles podcast at gmail dot com. Peace be 821 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: safe out there.