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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Always a pleasure to be with

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Speaker 1: you photograph believe we are already a week into spring training.

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Speaker 1: But hey, if you're enjoying the expanded coverage, the ability

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Speaker 1: to watch the games a bit more than we have

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Speaker 1: in the past, you've seen some pretty good action and

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, you know, some of the

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Speaker 1: storylines that we're seeing from the first week of spring training.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into the details, really only detail

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Speaker 1: that matters is once again I have the pleasure of

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Speaker 1: speaking with my podcast partner, Stephen Tolbert. Steven is always

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Speaker 1: hope you are well, sir, on the eve of our

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Speaker 1: basketball rivalry getting going this year. We'll talk a little

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Speaker 1: track later on the show, but Steven, how are you, sir?

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Speaker 1: Hope you've been Will what's.

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Speaker 2: Up, buddy? Yeah, Badmont Tennessee tips off tomorrow might end

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Speaker 2: up being just a precursor to what's going on in

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Speaker 2: the SEC tournament, maybe the NCAA turn. We might do

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Speaker 2: a few of these before the year's over. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: spring trainings in full swing now right, We're into games.

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Speaker 2: We've seen all the regulars I think I think Ozzie

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Speaker 2: and Profar were the last two, and they played a

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Speaker 2: couple of days ago, and everybody's in now. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the Braves made it through the initial period where all

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Speaker 2: their pitchers kind of start ramping up. They made it

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Speaker 2: through that healthy. And that's not a given. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you follow news around the league, you know, the Mets,

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Speaker 2: the Yankees, a bunch of teams I lost starters immediately

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Speaker 2: just right off the bat. They lost them for six weeks,

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Speaker 2: And just that alone is a victory, you know, before

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Speaker 2: we even get to anything else. Getting through that, I

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Speaker 2: think that's probably the most dangerous part of spring training,

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Speaker 2: most injuries. And so the fact that the Braves made

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Speaker 2: it through that without that is a big deal. Now,

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Speaker 2: obviously you have to hold on for dear life for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the time as well. But but yeah,

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Speaker 2: in full swing, and we got a couple of interesting topics,

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Speaker 2: some hot button topics that are being talked about all

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Speaker 2: over the Braves, you know, online, Braves Twitter. These are

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Speaker 2: kind of the topics that people are talking about and

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Speaker 2: so this we wanted to spend you know, twenty thirty

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Speaker 2: minutes tonight going through some of these things.

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Speaker 1: And listen, knock on wood if you want to. I

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Speaker 1: think that that's you know, whatever, you know value when

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Speaker 1: you put on a superstition. The Braves are do some

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Speaker 1: good luck when it comes to injuries. So if we

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Speaker 1: could have a healthy season, that will really help things out.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things that has certainly stood out

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Speaker 1: one of the stars so far of spring training, and

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Speaker 1: I don't really know if it's much of a surprise,

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Speaker 1: is the top prospect in the Brave system Drake Baldwin,

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Speaker 1: who is shown, you know, the ability to be able

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Speaker 1: always wanted to say our out contra however you want

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Speaker 1: I'll get into a bit more details on those at bats,

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Speaker 1: but Steven, so far, Drake Baldwin's had a very productive

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Speaker 1: start to this spring. Sean Murphy, you know, three strikeouts

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Speaker 1: I want to go on record of saying, is of

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Speaker 1: right now, this is not a competition Sean and Sean

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Speaker 1: Murphy's job going into the season. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is interesting. I mean there's a

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Speaker 2: couple of things working here. First of all, Sean Murphy

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Speaker 2: still owed sixty million dollars. Okay, you can't have this

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Speaker 2: conversation until you start there. He's not just on the team.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't just traded for. They didn't just give up

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Speaker 1: I mean not massive.

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Speaker 2: Sixty million dollars not a massive extension by today's standards,

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Speaker 1: Made him the guy, he's the guy behind the plate

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Speaker 2: Yes, they declined the option on Travis Darnaut to even

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Speaker 2: But Drake Baldwin is ready. Like if Sean Murphy wasn't

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Speaker 2: of this team. Like he's he's not a young prospect,

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Speaker 2: So they're both gonna be this is this will be

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Speaker 2: now in real life, twenty four is not old, but

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Speaker 2: it's fine, and that's probably true. But when somebody had

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Speaker 2: last year, a whole nother year at that level, quite honestly,

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Speaker 2: only bad things can like his value can really only

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Speaker 2: Triple A is not a long term solution. It is

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Speaker 2: I'm getting to is even next year, the Braves are

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Speaker 2: still gonna owe Sean Murphy forty five million. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna do, but it is

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Speaker 2: because you know, I think his best value to the

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Speaker 2: we pay the price for it every day. Shane shan

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Speaker 2: Braves have a long term catcher who makes real money

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Speaker 2: for the next four years. I don't know what you do,

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Speaker 2: I really don't. I don't know if you have an

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Speaker 2: value to put him at DH. I don't know. It's

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Speaker 2: a fascinating situation. I don't know if you have an opinion,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that when it comes to Sean Murphy. Listen,

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Speaker 1: the reason why they moved off William Contreras to go

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to make it clear. I think if

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Speaker 1: big reason why they went to go get Sean Murphy,

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Speaker 1: you know, with those becoming more prevalent, things such as that,

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Speaker 1: Sean Murphy still is pretty good, too good in those areas,

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Speaker 1: at least right now. Sean Murphy is a good spring

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Speaker 1: Still doesn't make this a conversation for me. Sean Murphy's

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Speaker 1: that this Braves offense needs more of working counts, putting

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a conversation right now. I

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Speaker 1: that doesn't occur. We're one injury away from Drake Baldwin

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Speaker 1: potentially really making this conversation. But set all that to

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Speaker 1: the side. None of this changes the fact that Sean

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Speaker 1: Murphy is the one who's most in control of this

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Speaker 1: not being a conversation. He simply returns to his form

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Speaker 1: that he was in what twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: We're back in shape with a really good catcher at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I mean they could, like next year,

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Speaker 2: they could absolutely have Baldwin catch fifty percent of the

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Speaker 2: They could do that. They can't do it this year

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Speaker 2: that is a long term possibility. But you know, then

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Speaker 2: you get into you gave Sean Murphy all this money

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Speaker 1: And again, I don't think it's in any way, shape

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Speaker 1: That's perfectly fine. And then when Smith and then when

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Speaker 1: But Spencer Schrider comes back. If being Anderson isn't in

431
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: at that point, you've seen it through as much as

432
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: you possibly can. DFA makes perfect sense. Then in that

433
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: fist starter spot, Hey, if if Smith Shauber's doing well,

434
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 1: let him keep going, keep homes in the bullpen. If

435
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: smithbor Ruglan will an option Smith Shaber down, put homes

436
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 1: in the bullpen, bring up one of your relievers. I

437
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: think that set up checks the box of keeping the

438
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: most talent in the organization, which we know En Thoughtless

439
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: likes to do. But it also allows for Anderson and

440
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 1: smith Shaber both to be able to see if they

441
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 1: can find the groove that you hope at least one

442
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: of them confined to start the season. That would really

443
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: add that quality depth we need, because you know we'll

444
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 1: get into it in a second each day that we

445
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: go Stephen without seeing something happen. I don't think that

446
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 1: there's going to be a notable addition to the starting

447
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: rotation coming soon. I think that the Braves feel like,

448
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: especially if Smith Shabber is doing well in spring training,

449
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: they've got enough depth to navigate the first heart half

450
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: of the season and they're starting rotation. But to me, Smith, Shaubring,

451
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: and Anderson the rotation homes in the bullpen. That makes

452
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: the most sense. I know some may not necessarily agree

453
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: because a lot of the hype that Grant Holmes got

454
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: this offseason, but I think that makes the most sense

455
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: in terms of experience, keeping talent in the organization, and

456
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: allowing for you to fully see all three three until

457
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: Stryder comes back.

458
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that makes sense to me. I do wonder,

459
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 2: you know, they asked Brian Snicker about the six man

460
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: rotation stuff because they did it so much in the

461
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 2: first half last year, if that was they were going

462
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 2: to do it again, and he said, yeah, So I

463
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: do wonder if they'll take Homes, Anderson and Smith Shaw,

464
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: we're all in the rotation. You know, they've got a

465
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: nasty West Coast road trip right out of the gate,

466
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: go to San Diego to LA for the Dodgers. I

467
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 2: don't know that six man rotation would be tough there

468
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: because you would really love to have the extra arm

469
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: in the bullpen for those for that trip. So maybe

470
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: they don't. I don't know, it's good. I mean, Ian

471
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: Anderson can't walk five batters for every one strikeout he gets.

472
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 2: I know that, like he's got a like I know

473
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: it's early, and I know he did I know he's

474
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: got like a one e er so far in the

475
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: in the spring, but the peripherals are a mess. You

476
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: can't you have to be able to strike out people.

477
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: You can't walk people. I'm still not a believer in

478
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: I and Anderson. I know, I'm I know people get

479
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: very mad when you say that, because he has that success.

480
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: I think people have overblown some of his success with

481
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: the Braves. A lot of it was smoking mirrors at

482
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, I would, so I would take Ian Anderson.

483
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: I would probably DFA. I know that's controversial. I don't

484
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: think he's a big league pictcher at this point. I

485
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: would put Smith Shover and Grant Holmes in the rotation

486
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: and I would sign a bullpen piece like I would sign.

487
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Robertson is not gonna stay out

488
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: there forever. I don't know, you know, I don't know.

489
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: He's not on the Braves radar. I would love the

490
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: Braves to sign him. But David Robertson, of course I'm

491
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: talking about But we'll see, we'll see what they do.

492
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm I'm not an Ian Anderson believer. I

493
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: know a lot of people are. I hope I'm wrong,

494
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 2: but I was really expecting them to add to the

495
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: to the rotation, And like you said, at this point, Camp,

496
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: I'm I think I'm pretty well past the idea that

497
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: they're going to add to the rotation. The bullpen might

498
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: be separate, but yeah, not the rotation.

499
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the bullpen, I think it's pretty also

500
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: interesting to talk about that because we've seen several of

501
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: the players that the Braves Hit have brought into you know,

502
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: spring training. You know, not a lot of notable names,

503
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: but some names that they're at least intrigued by. So far, Stephen,

504
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: one or two of those names that it has really

505
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: stood out to you has kind of been like this guy,

506
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: this guy's got a bit better stuff than I thought

507
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: he did. Not necessarily all of them are six', eight

508
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pounds, now but the point That

509
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: i'm giving at is one or two of them that

510
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: stand out as you, know, Hey i'd like to see

511
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: more of this, guy you, know even potentially securing a

512
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: spot unexpectedly in the brais b. Woopit so are we just?

513
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: Talking are we just? Talking the non roster invite you,

514
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: guys are we talking forty?

515
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: Men, hey we are, Too so we are talking anybody

516
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: outside It, Beglecias Pierce, Johnson Aaron, Bummer Dylan, Lee, okay

517
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: any of those guys And dave Bo hernandez thrown in there. Included.

518
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah So Anderson polar has actually looked really. GOOD

519
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: i don't, know you, know he throws ninety four with

520
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: a cutter he clearly. Had he's clearly difficult to pick

521
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: up or. Something you see a lot of weird swings against,

522
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: him even though it's not like Elite Elite. Velocity they

523
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: took him in the rule. Five obviously they you, know

524
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: they they they can't option. Him they either have to

525
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: put him on the, roster put him through, waivers offer him.

526
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: Back that's definitely a, guy you, KNOW i Know, perdomo

527
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: but he's talking About. Perdomo he's a you, know he's

528
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: literally a. Monster he's a, massive massive human. Being he's

529
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: another guy that those ninety three ninety. Four you, know

530
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: some of The prospect guys are actually very interested in

531
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: The i've been thinking about this a. Lot i'm actually

532
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: very interested in in the idea Of Hurston waldrip in

533
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: the bullpen with his. Splitter brad And. Garov we're talking

534
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: about this on the. Show they did a couple of

535
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 2: days ago that, like he's kind of a one pitch

536
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: guy at the, moment and you can't really you can't

537
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: start with one. Pitch it's really hard to relieve with

538
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: one pitch as, well but it's a lot easier than. Starting,

539
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: so Like, Herstlle waldrop in the bullpen is actually very

540
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: fascinating to. Me but, yeah Probably polar is the one

541
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: That i've noticed the most Of you can always tell

542
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: by the hitters how difficult the guy, is and he

543
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: gets weird swings he. Gets you, know he had two

544
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: strikeouts today in his. INNING i watched the whole. Thing

545
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: it's just an uncomfortable at bat and so they obviously

546
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: like him taking him in The rule. Five that's probably

547
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: the GUY i would. Pick you, Know. PERDOMO i haven't

548
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: seen a ton Of perdomo, yet but you, know his

549
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: numbers are. Decent i'm guessing both guys will make, it but,

550
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: yeah polar is probably the answer to that. QUESTION i

551
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: would love for them to go add an actual, reliever

552
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: If i'm being. Honest David. Robertson you, KNOW i don't

553
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: know who else is out there at this. POINT i

554
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: haven't looked at a, while but somebody are trade somebody

555
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: that's a, proven high, leverage big name. Reliever but every

556
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: day that it doesn't, happen it becomes less and less.

557
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Likely so, absolutely and The braves have had some decent.

558
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: Success you, Know Dylan lee stands out as this type

559
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: of pitcher, who you, know again you, know definitely doesn't

560
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: have elite, velocity but you, know, movement you, know, sequencing you,

561
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: know thinking through the, bat you, know those type of

562
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: things have been. Successful we, know The braves love the

563
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: guys that can sit there and spin the, ball you.

564
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: Know And i'm not necessarily saying That polari, is you,

565
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: know and it has an ultimate curveball or anything like. That,

566
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: again it's more the variations of his. Fastball but the

567
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: point is is that The braves have found success with

568
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: guys who don't necessarily have the need the most the highest.

569
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: Velocity trying to find the right word, THERE.

570
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: I, WILL i, WILL i will say. THIS i do

571
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: Think Aaron bummer has the best chance of pulling Like

572
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: joe him in his type. Season, yeah, yeah the year

573
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: before he was low, leverage never, used and then he

574
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: comes into the next year And snip puts him in

575
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: bixed spots and he becomes just an elite. RELIEVER i you,

576
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: know we talked About bummer a lot last. YEAR i

577
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: Think bumber has a good chance to be the second

578
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: best reliever on this, team maybe the best reliever on this,

579
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: team you, know depending on how his year. Goes BUT

580
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: i think he's got the potential to be a legitimate back,

581
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: end high leverage.

582
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Reliever he wants to turn into a J. Minter no arguments,

583
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: here BUT i think that this is a good way

584
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: to potentially end the show Because terry, mcgwork you, know

585
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: talked about you, know he gave some comments as, well

586
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: and you know that you, know When alex And thopless

587
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: talks about you, know payroll and things like, that he Mentions.

588
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: Terry you, know he has conversations With terry on a consistent,

589
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 1: basis you, know just kind of seeing where things are

590
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: and things like. That And terry mcwork had some interesting

591
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: commerce you, know interesting common it's talking about where The

592
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: braves payroll, were and the gist of it was was

593
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: that the lack of off season moves was not because

594
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: they didn't have what they needed to make the. Moves

595
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: they just didn't see the moves being beneficial to make

596
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: other Than jerkson. Profar but he did drop an interesting

597
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: comment That i've got to have the back of my.

598
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: MIND i think you have as. Well you, know last

599
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: year The braves went into spring training hoping That Jared

600
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: kelnick would take over that outfield. Spot he, Struggled so

601
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: they went out and they brought back a familiar name

602
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: And Adam devall for three million On march seventeenth of

603
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. FOUR i think that there is a good

604
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: chance we could see that type of move from the,

605
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: bullpen especially when it comes to The. Braves the point

606
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: That i'm getting at is that the two takeaways from

607
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: What girk. Said The braves payroll is where it needs

608
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: to be for them to make moves when they want,

609
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: to but also there's a good chance that they might

610
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: not necessarily be done and could on a short term

611
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: more than long term focus bringing a notable, name ESPECIALLY

612
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: i think for the pitching.

613
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: Staff, yeah it was very notable to. Me when he

614
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: was asked about, payroll the very first thing he said

615
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: was there's still a lot of free agents out. There

616
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: that was his first. Comment and you know that doesn't

617
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: sound like a guy defending how much they've. Spent that

618
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: sounds like a guy who's, saying just, wait there's very,

619
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: likely very possibly something else coming. Now of, course you

620
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: can look at the names that are still out there

621
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: and there's not a ton of like high impact. Guys

622
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: but you, know the pitching, staff it could just use

623
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: SOME i, mean we talked about it all off. Season

624
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 2: could just use some, reinforcements some Proven The braves are

625
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: just The braves are still asking a lot of questions

626
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: about a lot of the guys that are scheduled to

627
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: be on this. ROSTER i would love a few more

628
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: answers than questions at this, point and we have a

629
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: lot of. Questions we have questions About, strider questions About Ian,

630
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 2: anderson About Grant, holmes About Smith. SCHALVER i, mean, hell

631
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: even Like schwellenbach And sale And, lopez how they respond

632
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: after all the innings they pitched last. Year then you

633
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: get into the, bullpen it's even more. Questions it's just

634
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: questions and questions and not a lot of. Answers SO

635
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: i would love another. ANSWER i would love another proven

636
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: Guy who's not so big a question because the breads

637
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: are banking on a lot going right in the pitching

638
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: staff and that's just a dangerous place to. Be so,

639
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: yeah it was notable to. Me the first thing he

640
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: said was there's still a lot of people out there

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Speaker 2: that haven't, signed so we'll. SEE i, mean like you,

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Speaker 2: said they did it last year with the BALL i

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Speaker 2: would not be surprised at all if they did it

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Speaker 2: again with the pitching staff this.

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Speaker 1: Year, Hey steven Will smith And Drew smiley are both

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Speaker 1: still out. There i'm just, Saying.

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Speaker 2: Drew smiley is we need to Get brad on? Here

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Speaker 2: Drew smiley is this?

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Speaker 4: Guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well with all that being, said the point is

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Speaker 1: plenty of storylines to talk about when it comes to spring.

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Speaker 1: Training the beauty of it all is is that, again

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Speaker 1: we're able to enjoy it. More if you, know if

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Speaker 1: you've been listening to the podcast keeping up With things

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Speaker 1: Spring training almost every day is available to you to

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Speaker 1: be able to, subscribe you, Know, Amazon, Prime, fando whatever you,

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Speaker 1: do make sure you do it before the season because

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Speaker 1: you can get some games and obviously when the games

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Speaker 1: come to starting to, count you'll be able to see

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Speaker 1: them as, Well, stephen any other thoughts from you as

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Speaker 1: we wrap up this edition of The Hammer Territory.

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Speaker 2: Podcast Tennessee bama. Tomorrow what's your best?

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Speaker 1: Guess, Uh bama by, Five bama by. FIVE i think

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Speaker 1: that because we have been beat By, could we been

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Speaker 1: beat By kentucky at, home and we have struggled when

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Speaker 1: it comes to facing the teams with good. Offense Now bama,

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Speaker 1: struggles they can't. SHOOT i like our. CHANCES i Think

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Speaker 1: bama has higher upside Than. Tennessee So i'll Go obama by.

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Speaker 2: Five i'm gonna say. Bam bema has played like, that

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Speaker 2: has played very poorly Against tennessee the last couple of,

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Speaker 2: years especially At, tennessee So i'm gonna Take i'm gonna

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Speaker 2: actually go the Oppos i'm Gonna tennessee by. Five but,

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Speaker 2: yeah big game, tomorrow but no spring training obviously in full.

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Speaker 2: Swing Now i'm still. WAITING i still think there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a move of some. SORT i still Think alex

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Speaker 2: is gonna add a picture of. Regard but until it,

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Speaker 2: happens this is the group we, got and we're obviously

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about all the guys that are that are

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Speaker 2: in the, running the catching situation is fascinating to. ME

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Speaker 2: i would love to know exactly what they think About

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Speaker 2: drake and and exactly what their plans are for him long.

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Speaker 2: Term but, yeah we're gonna have to wait and. See

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Speaker 2: but it's all it's gonna be fascinating to watch.

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Speaker 1: It and here's the thing about the situation is that

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Speaker 1: you're using the word fascinating because it's a favorable. Situation,

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Speaker 1: Again Jean murphy does.

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Speaker 5: Well this ends the. Conversation he does do. Well we

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Speaker 5: have a conversation about top prospect in Baseball. Boom more

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Speaker 5: favorable situations for the praise where we have questions confidently

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Speaker 5: coming up with the answers.

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Speaker 1: Ourselves, INTERNALLY i think we're relying on that a bit

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Speaker 1: more THAN i feel comfortable with right. Now but the

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Speaker 1: more we find that being, successful the better off we're

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Speaker 1: you will See Brad scott give their thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: weekend that was when it comes to spring, training and

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Speaker 1: me And steven will be back with you soon to

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Speaker 1: make sure you check out all the great recent content

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Speaker 1: that we've. Had Justin tiscano gave his thoughts at the

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Speaker 1: early start of spring. Training we've had minor league, breakdowns much, much,

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Speaker 1: much much much more to come as we get through spring.

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Speaker 1: you again soon here on The Hammer territory. Podcast