1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Live from Indianapolis. This is continuing cover each of the 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: NFL combine on Steelers Nation Radio. Our number two of 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: the midday show, Wesley Jueler, Max Stark's Dale Lolly here 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: at the Indiana Convention Center, live on Radio Row. Three 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: more hours of our coverage. 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Anything standing out to you 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: at this point? I just looking here, I see that 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the Desmond ritter weighed in two eleven pounds, which is 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: a little heavier for him. That's that's good. That's again 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: got him over that to ten threshold. You don't want 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: to see that. You don't want to see that zero 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: in the middle. Yeah, etly you want to see it 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: on the backside in the Yeah. Ten inch hands for 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: him as well. He I knew he had big hands. 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: I met him at the at the Senior Bowl, and 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: he could you could see like he has the big 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: long fingers. He could group football. Um. Another guy Bailey 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: Zappy surprising nine and three quarters Kentucky. Right, we talked 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: about Kentucky. We talked about him a little bit yesterday. 29 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Kid can throw a football. But yeah, he came at 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: six foot half inch to fifteen. Yeah, so he's got 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: a little got a little put on a little weight 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: back on to there. He did because he looked he 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: looked small when I saw him. But the kid can 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: fly to the football. I mean that's that. There's no 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: question about this whether what's the right scheme for him 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: because he is that air raid five wide spread, sling 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: it all around. Can you manage it and can you 38 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: actually get s so but yeah, that was another one 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: that stuck out to me. I was like, Okay, Willis 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: comes in at two nineteen. Uh, it's a good size 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: for him. Um, you know he's built like a running back. 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: He looks he's like a little bit taller version of 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Like Russell Wilson has those big legs that 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: you know can help. Yeah, you know, that's one thing 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to mention, you know when when we did 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: have Greg Cosell on yesterday and he said that you 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: can't make a living, you can't in the NFL make 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: a living going backwards. The two guys that do that 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: are Russell Wilson and Pat Mahomes. They will to escape 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: backwards and those and those are the outliers. Those are 51 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: the outliers. Those are the outliers because because I'll tell 52 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: you this, I mean now, Russell Wilson, he he knows 53 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: how to because he's gonna move forward eventually. Yeah. But 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes, you just were because he could throw it 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: from any way, from any direction, and he just knows 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: how to escape. He's not a runner, but he just 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: knows how to escape. It's very twitch. He can give 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: you a little quick, little shoulders almost like a good 59 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: point guard, right throw you off with one anytime he 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: pretends to fake a pass, stop you trying to jump. 61 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: So it isn't like boom, I can get around you 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: because I know I know myself. So yeah, those are 63 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: two outlets. But everybody else though, it's like, don't try this, 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: don't try to send home kids. This is a professional 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: at work. You've got to be rare air to be 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: able to get away with that. That's what. What do 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: you think of Drake London as a prospect? You know, 68 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: I really I really like Drake Um and his his 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: his white receiver's coach is a good friend of mine, 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: carry Colbert and Carrie, because I had the U s 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: C U C L A game earlier this year and 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: so I had to talk to him because obviously Drake 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: was injured. So I was talking to him pre game 74 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: and I was just going, you know, I'm like, what's 75 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: the mentality, what's the work ethic like? Because you see 76 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: it and it looks fluid, and of course in the 77 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: pack twelve, you never know what you're gonna get with 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: the receiver. But I think one of the things when 79 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: I watched this film, I like how he he just 80 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: he had a way of getting it was at all 81 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: but he just was so technically sound and running his 82 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: routes that he just could get open and create a 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: little bit of space and and he just made it. 84 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Because the quarterbacks that they had were not We're not 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: stellar by any stress. And he can also go high 86 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: point the ball. So I like his toughness. He's willing 87 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: to go in the middle and go dig out some 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: passes and not just rely on a lot of flyouts 89 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: or you know, he'll he'll take a deep end and 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: he's not afraid to go in between two safeties and 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: go make that catch. So I like the toughness ass 92 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: but durability is gonna be my question with him. How 93 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: would he compare to say, Michael Pittman, this guy from 94 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: the same school, you know what, pitt Pittman's just I 95 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: feel like a more more of a burner, you know, 96 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: and he's more of a physical guy um as far 97 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: as like he's gonna physically manipulate the routes with his 98 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: body and try and box you out, whereas London is 99 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: going to use technique, you know. So I think that's 100 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: the kind of the two differences. London came into the 101 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: two nine team, which is good for him, and that 102 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: was not atally I was expecting him to be closer 103 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: to two tin range. So now that's that's a good size. 104 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I love Drake. I think he's I think 105 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: he's a prospect and hearing the behind you know from 106 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: from my buddy Carey, that also kind of solidified my 107 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: my my thought process about him is that he's a 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: good kid outside of that and how he goes about 109 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: his business, and he wants to be the best as 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: far as technically being technically sound, knowing how to run 111 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: the routes, not cutting him short and not rounding him. 112 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: He wants to give it to you technically, so you know, 113 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: he's he's the biggest thing. He wants to be dependable 114 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: to his quarterback to know he's gonna be where the 115 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: quarterback expects him to be. He and Trailing Burkes are 116 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: the two guys at the top of the board to 117 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: have that size that everybody's looking for now. Burke came 118 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: in today six two. That's a big boy right there. 119 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the thing. It's like, you want 120 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: to have that size and then that that also makes 121 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: you a guy who can go and box out a 122 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: guy or if you know, a lot of teams now 123 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: looking at that that Deebo Samuel type. Yeah, can he 124 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, can he do some things like that? You know, 125 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: run the end of rounds? The Steelers do it with 126 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool something. You know, he's gonna break it an 127 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: arm tackle, you know, out in the open field, if 128 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: somebody tries to dive at his ankles, he's gonna run 129 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: through that. Yeah you want that versus telling I think 130 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: both of those guys can can do that easily. Um, 131 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: you know, because because Drake has that track background as well, 132 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: so he knows when, especially when you get in that 133 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: linear speed. Okay, if I have if I have a chase, 134 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, safety or dime, that's that's tracking me, you know, 135 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: on my motions. I'm out running this guy right now. 136 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: And I think that that that's what's gonna bode well. 137 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be interesting to see where he ends 138 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: up because, like you said, how healthy is he? You know, 139 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: how much has he recovered to be able to go 140 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: do anything here today? You know, So that that's gonna 141 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: be a question. But I like him a lot. I 142 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: like I like Birds, I like I like Pittman, And 143 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: they all have their different things, right, every guy has 144 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: to have their fill in spot. And I think you know, 145 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: when you're looking at Drake, you're like, ah, this guy 146 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: is gonna be a Day two guy. You know is 147 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: because the receivers just aren't going to get that cache 148 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: unless it's J Mar Chase, right, you know, then there's 149 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: no J mar Chases in the in the in this class. Yeah, 150 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: Chase will be a slam Chase might be the might 151 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: the NB. Yeah, if he were in this draft, yeah, 152 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. I mean, it wouldn't be a question about, 153 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: oh is it Evan Neil? Is it a line? Now? 154 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: It would be like J. Mar Chase and just fill 155 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: it in after that guy. Yeah. Yeah. But there's a 156 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: lot of guys from last year's draft you look at it, 157 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: had they stayed, it's like you could have feasted at that. 158 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: You know. I think if even some of the dbs, 159 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: like if they would have waited outside of Sauce Garden, 160 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: I think Sauce Garden is probably unequivably the number one 161 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: dB in this draft class. But outside of that, they 162 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: would have been picked a lot higher, you know, had 163 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: they had they waited a year and not because I 164 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: think of, um, what what's the boy that went from 165 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: o Um Newsome Newsom from Northwestern? He he would have 166 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: been one I thought probably would have been a higher 167 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: guy that, you know, had he had he had he 168 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: trips to stay. Um, so I'm Jay Horn. Oh no, 169 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: j Horn was going to he was gonna who j C. Horne. 170 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: That dude is an absolute dog. I mean and when 171 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: he had his degree, Oh that's true. And he was 172 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: the eighth overall pick. So I mean, maybe he goes 173 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: a few spots higher this year, but still a top 174 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: ten guy. And watching him because I called a Carolina 175 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: game this year, I was like, I was like, this 176 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: guy needed to be in the NFL. He's gonna hurt 177 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: somebody to stay in college for another year. Yeah, he 178 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: has the uh, he has that nastiness to him that 179 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, tough to get away with at the cornerback position. 180 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: But it is I mean, because you're talking, I mean, 181 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: with all the rules now, you can't be that bully 182 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: corner you know that that that you're like, okay, all 183 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: right this guy. Yeah, hey, guys, we gotta figure out 184 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: a way to get a separation. We need to do 185 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: some type of rub route because this guy's is absolutely 186 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: mall and he still finds a way to do it. 187 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: Within those first five yards you were his and once 188 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: if you're lucky to get the five and a quarter yards, 189 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: he has to stop, you know, it's just strange because 190 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: his dad was a wide receiver, so so he knows 191 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: all the church. I was like, Hey, so this guy's 192 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna try and do an inside release. Let's go right 193 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: there for that shoulder and just take him out. It's 194 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: like so yeah, And I think that's always a fun 195 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: thing because you know, like for me, I always used 196 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: to pick my father's brain because he was a defensive 197 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: end outside backer type when he when he played. So 198 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, I was like, you know, I'm having 199 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: an issue with this. So it's great to have that 200 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: parent that played the opposite because you can go pick 201 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: their brains about those things. So I think that you 202 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: guys are being yeah, you'll think you know I was 203 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: born to one. Yeah, exactly. It's like it's like, I 204 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: am here your inevitability. It feels like almost every draft 205 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: the Steelers take a wide receiver linebacker right somewhere in 206 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: the seven rounds. When you look at it through that 207 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: scope now of just I believe two wide receivers on 208 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: on under contract, correct and Deonte Johnson and Chase Claypool, 209 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: does it feel like the Steelers first round pick twenty 210 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: but day two wide receivers are really that's my that's 211 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: my sleeper pick for them in the first round. If 212 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: all these guys, if you're drafting and all of a sudden, 213 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: there's you know, you get to twenty and Garrett Wilson 214 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: is still there. You're like, yeah, I didn't expect that 215 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: to happen. You know, you know, all of a sudden, 216 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, because because you saw what Cincinnati did last 217 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: year and you saw like what what the difference or 218 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: what a difference that just adding that extra receiver to 219 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: the mixed could make a weapon because they were they 220 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: were okay at wide receiver. They you know, uh, they 221 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: were fine there and they went out and added another one. 222 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: Can you play three so much? You play so much 223 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: eleven personnel that that you know, you're gonna find a 224 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: way that The thing is interesting to me is what 225 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: kind of body type are they looking for in this 226 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: U That is the what's kind of skill set? Yeah, 227 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: because like you said, you have Chase who's that big 228 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: body burner, right, but and then you have Deonte who's 229 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: technically sound, slight but can get you some of the 230 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: interior stuff. And then of course you had the Juju 231 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: ray ray ray type of mix in the slot. So 232 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, do I go with slot because I 233 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: have one in two? Is that the emphasis? Or do 234 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: I get the backup for one of them? Because inevitably 235 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: injuries happened? Right? I mean how many times do we 236 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: see Chase coming off the field with something with his 237 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: foot or nicked and then you're like, okay, now, now 238 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: what do we have here? Cody White? All right, let's 239 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: go Cody. You know you gotta jump in there. So 240 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: it would be nice to have some of that depth 241 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: there and then have him being flexible. The guy that 242 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: I have my eye on, and I'm sure Mike Tomlin 243 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: does as well as Sky More from Western Michigan UM 244 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: Shady Side Academy was the quarterback there when Mike soun 245 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: Dino was the wide receiver. I would think he knows 246 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: a little bit about this. Had a couple of spaghetti 247 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: pregame games, a little bit. Yeah, just hey, has he 248 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: met with the Steelers? He doesn't have to cell phone? Hey, 249 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm going he was. He was over at their house 250 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: for Christmas. You know I was. I was candno, come 251 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: out to play? Hey, you know what's guy? Come on 252 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: in here, let me talk to you. Of course I 253 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: could also work the other way on that. I know 254 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: where the I know where the bodies are, where the 255 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: bodies are buried. But I think you know and when 256 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: you look at it, we're always talking about ties, especially 257 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: because the Steelers, because everything has a place, Yeah, you 258 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: know within there says, especially when you have your own. 259 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: You look at how many homegrown guys that if there's 260 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: an opportunity and it makes sense, it's a no brainer 261 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: at that point, you know. And I think Skuy Moore 262 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: is one of those guys. The interesting thing about him 263 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: is is you hear and and it's it's a he's 264 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: a mac receiver, he's five eleven pounds, and you hear 265 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the Antonio Brown comparisons with him. And 266 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: so I went back and I was watching tape of him, 267 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: and I'm watching his his get off the line of scrimmage, 268 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I actually see the Antonio Brown comparisons, 269 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Like he has the same wiggle with the line of scrimmage. 270 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: You know that that that just the ability to instantly 271 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: get open against press coverage. And he's also had a 272 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: great view of watching Antonio maybe ran into a giant eagle. 273 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, Hey, you hey, I don't know that 274 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: you like tangelos, So do I nice to meet you? 275 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: Take you? You would take that without the headaches? Yeah, exactly, 276 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: because also there is a connection there prior, so you 277 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: can manage those emotions. Because Mike t knows his parents. 278 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell your mom and dad 279 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: what you're doing in practice? No? No, No, probably just 280 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: has to give him that look. Yeah, it's it's like, yeah, 281 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: it's that uncle, look right, I remember what you did 282 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: when you were sixteen. Just remember that. Don't make me 283 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: bring your high school coach out here to practice to 284 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: yell at you too. Exactly. So yeah, don't let me 285 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: get your mom out here. He's exactly. You know. You 286 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: know I can get a credentials right now that the 287 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver group is you know. Again, it's intriguing to 288 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: me because there there could be, like you mentioned, a 289 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: plethora of options that it's possible you get to pick 290 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: twenty and maybe one of these guys is off the 291 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: board and that. But I find it interesting they actually, uh, 292 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: there were some guys that were of course, as usually happens, 293 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: we're asked if they had met with the Steelers here 294 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: and two of the first round guys that that had 295 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: met with the Steelers were Johan Dotson from Penn State 296 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: and then uh Hio, the Ohio State Grett Wilson. They 297 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: just that I just mentioned, Steelers met with both of 298 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: those guys for formals. So so they're they're looking in 299 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: that direction, you know they are. I mean, and here's 300 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: the thing. You have to do your due diligence and 301 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: run the paces because you know, you want to see 302 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: what the options are. Like. I wouldn't be surprised if 303 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: you know Olave's are is going to come in for 304 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: probably a private workout if you don't see them here, 305 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: because you're like, there's no way we can't not not. 306 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: They have had some success taken Ohio State guys as well, 307 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: just a Smith, a couple of San Antonio exactly, Hello, hello, 308 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: super our guests later here, Um yeah, did okay? Who's 309 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: on TV right now? He goes, We can see him 310 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: right up there with Bucky Brooks. Siciliano. I talked to 311 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: both of those guys, Yeah, exactly, definitely not no, no, 312 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: but the other two, the other two, the other you 313 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: have our credibility. I think Ciliano knows about Deep Dish 314 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: pizza with a last name like that would think. So 315 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: maybe he's anti that's Benzi pizza, or maybe he's just 316 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: like Sicilian style, which is, you know, a lot of dobe, 317 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: little sauce on top. Maybe he goes that way, he 318 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: doesn't go quite deep. Any different ways to do pizza. 319 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: There is and sauce bread. We could we we could 320 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: hard quibble about the interfaces later. I know it's a 321 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Northeast boy, particularly one that is married into a Philadelphia 322 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: family and lived there for three years of my life 323 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: in the Golden Triangle of New York Philly, New Jersey. Pizza. 324 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: You're supposed to hate deep dish. It's it's delicious, absolutely delicious. 325 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: You you have no soul if you hate deep dish 326 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: like au If you come out here to the Midwest, 327 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: can't you can't the Detroit style pizza, it's all. It's all. 328 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: It's all great pizza everywhere, except for the ones that 329 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: they skimp on the sauce. That's the only type of 330 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: piecea you get. You gotta you gotta have a nice 331 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: sauce layer, you know. I get some of the fancier. 332 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna do this fired pie. It's gonna be 333 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: drizzled and there's a lot of bread, Give me some sauce, sauce, cheese, 334 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: and we're good. We're good. We can quip about like 335 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: when I moved to Washington, A there are a couple 336 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: of places in Washington they cook the pizza with the 337 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: sauce on it, and then they wait and put the 338 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: cheese on old cheese, cold cheese, like the Ohio Valley 339 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: thing today. Yeah, I can't do that. That's That's one 340 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: where I'm like, cook the cheese. Gotta let it, we 341 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: gotta let it melt a little bit. I need because 342 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: you see, I'm a Minio's guy, where cheese is like, okay, 343 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: bread cheese and bread might be optional. Yeah, but yeah, 344 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: I know I need cheese and I want to cook. 345 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: I want a little bubbly, little bit brunt spots on it. 346 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: You know that. I'm a big fan of the burnt 347 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: spots myself. Yeah, that's the best thing to do. Completely agree. 348 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad we're all on the same page there, gentlemen. 349 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: This has been Pizza Nation Radio. 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Let's get started, remember f D. 382 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: I see, gentlemen, we've talked a lot about the offense today. 383 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: We talked tight ends, we talked wide receivers at the 384 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: podium earlier, the running backs, and when you look for us, 385 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: when you look for the Steelers, you know you just 386 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: took Nagy Harris with your your first pick overall last year, Dale, correct, 387 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: was Nagy Harris? I believe uh not a high priority 388 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: position this year. But you know, we we've talked a 389 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: little bit about Nagy Harris and and how to maximize 390 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: him and how the offensive line relates to that equation. 391 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: It feels though like from the Steelers standpoint, you need 392 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: an RB two that you trust more than Benny Snell, clearly, 393 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: someone that you're willing to give more carries to to 394 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: take some of that. I mean, what three hundred and 395 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: so ridingd seven carries for Nazy his rookie season plus 396 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: the receptions, that's a lot of touches. You expect that 397 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: number could go up even more. How do you feel 398 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: about the depth at running back and maybe how this 399 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: Laer's addressed that and where they go this offseason? Well, 400 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: I mean they they spent a little bit of money 401 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: on Caleb Bellage last year. Um, you know that was 402 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: uh looking for that, that guy who gave you a 403 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: little something different than what Benny does. And Benny, Benny's 404 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: an NFL running back, Ben, He's not an NFL starting 405 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: running back. Um, you know, he's a guy that they 406 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: can step in there and give you some carries if 407 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: need be. I'd like to see them. You know, I 408 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna draft. They're not gonna draft another 409 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: one because that room will be awfully young, much like 410 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: the receiver room. So I think you had a veteran 411 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: presence to that again and you know, maybe you have 412 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more to spend on that this year. 413 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: Uh So you know, get yourself a D'Angelo Williams type 414 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: that they can be the again not necessarily the adult 415 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: in the room, because I think you know, if if 416 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: you look at Naji Harris, um, he is very wise 417 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: beyond his years in terms of the the maturity level 418 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Um, but I wouldn't mind, 419 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, adding one of those you know, year old backs, 420 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: a guy who been around the league, has done it, 421 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: maybe has a thousand yard season somewhere in his background, 422 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: or been the guy at some point in his background, 423 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: but is looking to you know, extend his career a 424 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: little bit. And and there's a lot of those guys available. 425 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: There are every year. Again, the Steelers last year really 426 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: just couldn't afford to go out and and and get 427 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: into the market for one of these guys. But you know, 428 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: if you if you if you get a guy like 429 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: a here's here's some of the names for you, Melvin Gordon, 430 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: David Johnson, you're probably not shopping in that Jaylen Richard, 431 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, Philip Lindsay Raheem, Mostert, DeVante Booker, shod Penny, 432 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: James White, Sony Michelle, Jeff Wilson, Marlon Mack, Brandon Bolden, 433 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, the Third, James Conner, Malcolm Brown. That's that's 434 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: about your list there, Giovanni Bard, Jerk mckinnons, Jerk McKinnon 435 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: is he he had a heck of a game playoffs 436 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: and you know has some of that. You know, you're 437 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: not You're looking for a guy who's who's much like d' 438 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: angelo because they did it with Garrett Blunt and it 439 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: didn't work out correct, He felt like he still could 440 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: could be. He really thought that he and Levi on 441 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Bell were one in one A and that was not 442 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: the case. You're you're you're one in your two. So 443 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: you have to get somebody who's who's comfortable in that 444 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: being the Jerome Bettest to your Willie Park being too. Yeah, 445 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: it has to be comfortable being too. So even a 446 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: guy like Darryl Williams from the Chiefs two Chiefs on there, 447 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: the guys that have shared the position before and and 448 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: know that what it's like to do that, they're not 449 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna be well, you know, I only get the ball 450 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: twice in this game, right, I didn't get the ball 451 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: at all, which is what you know. The Garrett's problem 452 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: was like we were winning the game, you know, if 453 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm the closer, but Levian was ripping off twenty yards 454 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: of pop against the Titans in that game, like you 455 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: were gonna take him out. I mean, he's at a 456 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: two h yard game. Um, you know, so a guy 457 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: who's comfortable in that role. And D'Angelo was comfortable in 458 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: that role. He he had been a fifth en hundred 459 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: yard back in Carolina. He knew, he knew that, you know, 460 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: if he if he had to do it for a 461 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: short stretch, he could still do it. But he didn't 462 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: feel like he had to do it to to you know, 463 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: for his ego. Yeah. I think Leonard Fournett is another 464 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: interesting one, right yeah, because he's he's been that proven guy, 465 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: he's been the feature guy he's been, but he but 466 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: he he took a back seat to come to Tampa 467 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Bay and duke it out with Ronald Jones a second 468 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: right and whatever role they gave him, he kind of 469 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean, and that was a stacked it backfield and 470 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: then all exactly and then when he was when his 471 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: answer was called, he answered the call right in the playoffs. 472 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: We all remember the Tampa Bay Bucks playoff run, and 473 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: he didn't do that all year, And you're like, okay, 474 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: how does this workout? So I think there's some great 475 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: values at the running back market, especially when you're looking 476 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: at guys thereine year old range. You know, still got 477 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: some tread on the tire, but they're not looking to 478 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: go burn out, you know. And you know, if I, 479 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: if I, if I do this a little more measured, 480 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: I can get two or three more years at exactly 481 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: and under how to share that load? Like listen, okay, 482 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: am I gonna be the third down guy that might 483 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: get screen run or a full flat out pass? You 484 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: know that that's what that that's what you want to have. 485 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of great values. You know, 486 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: I'd be interested about Marlon Mack as well. The other 487 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: thing that you get if you go to the veteran 488 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: route is he's already an accomplished UH pass blocker, whereas 489 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: most of these guys coming out of the college game 490 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: have no clue. Yeah, it's it's guests work at best, 491 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: unless you're getting them from an Alabama you know, where 492 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: you where you were asked to do a lot of 493 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: this awful play action, a lot of sophisticated six man pro. 494 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: I gotta pick out second to third option after the 495 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: after the down linemen. So but yeah, you don't get that. 496 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean when we look at the guys that are 497 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: coming out this year, I mean maybe with um, what's 498 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: the boy from Michigan State, Kenneth Walker, you might get 499 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: a little bit because of the style that they ran, 500 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: but everything else is pretty much an unknown. They gotta 501 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: learn it all over again because most of the time 502 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: they had the ball in their hands. Yeah, you know, 503 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: they weren't being asked to do those things you were 504 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: the feature. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah. Taking a look at 505 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: some of the guys that are available, Kenneth Walker obviously 506 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: at the top of of everybody's running back big board, 507 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: Bruce Hall out of Iowa State, Uh, Damien Pierce from Florida. 508 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: Kirrien Williams from Notre Dame would be an interesting one 509 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: for me because he might be one of those young 510 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: guys who could come in and and and has some 511 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: experience in pass pro and wouldn't be expecting a huge 512 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: role right away. Yeah, um, you know, potentially but I 513 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: think you probably have to take him in like the 514 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: third round, right, and again you want you want a 515 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: veteran presence in that room. Yeah, and and it the 516 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: lower you get in this draft you start looking at fourth, fifth, 517 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: and sixth, then your life. They've gone that route, they've 518 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: gone and it has not worked out for the Steelers 519 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: in the past. So you know, I would say free 520 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: agencies your best. And then if you're gonna get an 521 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, allow Willie Parker and it's gonna be 522 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: a diamond in the rough type of situation. That's probably 523 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: your best. But because you've already used the first round 524 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: cash and Nazi is we know Naji is that guy. 525 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: Now we don't Ai can tote the load. He can 526 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: stay on the field of the time. But you like, okay, 527 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: in order to get nag too year six, year, seven, 528 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: year eight, we need that compliment trust so so that 529 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: we have so he can now do seventy of the 530 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: places as opposed to And you don't really think about 531 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: drafting one Hi. You kind of do it like you 532 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: did with with levy On and James Conner. You you 533 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, Levan is going into the last year of 534 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: his career, of his well kind of was his career 535 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: last year of his contract. We could quit easily say 536 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: that that was the last of his career because where 537 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: is he now? He's like a where's Waldo? Now? Yeah? Um, 538 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: you draft James Conner when he's now more of an 539 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: established you know, he's in year five, and so you 540 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: bring in James Conner to kind of spend that year 541 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: as the understudy. Yeah, and then take over potentially, you know, 542 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: if you don't sign that second that second contract. Um, 543 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, right now, you're awfully young in there, and 544 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: even you know, Benny smells your veteran in the room, 545 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: and you're just awfully young. On offense bringing some adults, 546 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: So you need a couple. You need a couple of chaperones, 547 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: Just a couple. We're not asking to go straight one 548 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: to one, but a couple of chaperones to make sure 549 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: that you guys are keeping the six inch rule. Right, Yeah, 550 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: gotta leave room for Jesus. Leave room for Jesus. That's 551 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: no joke. I through middle school. I went to a 552 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: Christian school before I went to high school. This was 553 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: like two years ago, right, We talked about last year's 554 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 1: during COVID. I mean I was allowed to work as 555 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: much inside for thirty for a thirty one year old. 556 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I still get carded buying cigars. I mean, I I 557 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: get it. But twenty years from now, we're going to 558 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: see who's laughing exactly. I'm still getting carted. My my 559 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: eighth grade dance that needed Christian Academy. They legitimately said 560 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: to us when we walked in, you gotta leave room 561 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: for Jesus. So that's not just that's not just a joke. 562 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: That's a real thing. Yeah, I did want ask you, 563 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: max Um. Kenneth walker Is is the guy that is 564 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, is at the top of everybody's big board 565 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: and the one that's getting a lot of conversation. How 566 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: do you feel about Breese Hall? Though he's intriguing to me. 567 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you and I've had this conversation before. 568 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Big twelve guy. I guess I'm 569 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: a w V grad season ticket holder, so I see 570 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: a lot of Big twelve football. He's intriguing to me 571 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: because I think he's talented. I think he can play 572 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: at this level, but he's got a lot of tread 573 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: on those tires already. Listen, listen, listen. And here's the 574 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: funny thing. So we actually did um a corporate partnership 575 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: through through the old Line consulting that I work with, 576 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: and we went in Iowa State, and that was one 577 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: thing that was charge of responsibility, right, try and retool 578 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: that offensive line. And obviously we've seen the success that 579 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: they've had, but Breeze Hall has taken a lot, a lot, 580 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: a lot of plays and and I just I don't 581 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: know how long it can last at this level as 582 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: the main guy. You only have so many hits in 583 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: your body, only so many hinds me the back from 584 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: Stanford a few years ago, Bryce Love, Bryce Love exactly, great, great, 585 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: great comparison. Whereas I think he would he he would 586 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: come out automatically and be game ready because of the experience. 587 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: But that tread will where especially you get with a 588 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: team that maybe the quarterbacks not as established and it's 589 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: run set up the pass right. Yeah, I mean, it's 590 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: different if if he's going to Green Bay or I 591 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: should say wherever Aaron Rodgers lands full disclosure, he hasn't 592 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: made a decision. He hasn't made a decision. Guys. You 593 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: know it's different going there right where you know past 594 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: can be an emphasis on this team if need be, 595 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: and you are auxiliary to him, right. That's that's why 596 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones has lasted as long as he has. Yeah, 597 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: you got a J. Dillon now, so you do have 598 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: guys to brunt the brunt. The brunt that for a 599 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: guy that's played a lot, because Aaron Jones ran exclusively 600 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: at you tap because Sean Coogler was a head coach there. 601 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: So I was like, this stud is not gonna make 602 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: it past year three. And now we see him now 603 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: he's flourishing because you do have a quarterback that can 604 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: give you some space. And that's where Breeze has to 605 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: go to the right place because if not, and he 606 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: goes to I'm not gonna go to Jacksonville because obviously 607 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: you've got et T in there. But I'm saying you 608 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: go to somebody of that ilk. It's going to be 609 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: a challenge and he's gonna get worn down because if 610 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: your offensive line isn't strong enough giving you holes, you 611 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: have the beat in the backfield. He's just he's just 612 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't think the durability is there. I wouldn't take 613 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: that chance unless I was really comfortable with my old 614 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: my old line and also with the running back room, 615 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: and we know that he's coming in to share the 616 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: role and not be the premier guy. That's why I 617 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: have Isaiah Spiller out of Texas A and M is 618 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: my number one running back. He even had a Kenneth Walker. Yeah, 619 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: hasn't hasn't had like he had like his his career 620 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: high in college was a hundred nineties carries. But he 621 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: also catches the ball um. You know, he he's he's smooth. 622 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: He asked her that that's that's the style of offensive 623 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: Texas A and M. You know when you look at 624 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: the running Okay, if you're a pegged as a starter, 625 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: good and then be we're gonna take care of you, 626 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: right because and the offensive line has been that good 627 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: that he's on. He's not getting touched to the second 628 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: level and I'll take a bunch of second level hits 629 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: versus those first level heads are in the backfield hits. 630 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: And he just wasn't exposed to that. And even though 631 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: they were going through their their quarterback transition this past 632 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: year with deciding who's it gonna be Haynes King or 633 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: the other kid, Calzada, you know, he he always found 634 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: a way to be in the rhythm. But he also 635 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 1: he also knows how to block too, which is another 636 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: really strong suits. So when you can block, catch and 637 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: tote the rock, it makes you more valuable. And like 638 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: you said, the tread is still on the tire. I 639 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: just think he's the most complete guy in this draft. 640 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: We haven't seen Kenneth Walker catch the football a lot. Um, 641 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, they just don't do that a lot. They 642 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: run the football. You you you're here to run the ball. 643 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: Your name says running back. Get back there and run. 644 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: It's not heavy and you're not in the union. Yeah. 645 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 1: Having some fun here on Radio Row as we always do. 646 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: Pumped to be back here in Indianapolis at the end 647 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: in a convention center. Our coverage is continuing here much 648 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: longer uh today Tomorrow Saturday, a lot more to get 649 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: to Camp Heyward about two hours from now. Some other 650 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: guests in between will wrap up the final segment of 651 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: this midday show here on Radio Road before I will 652 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: drop out here for Matt Williamson and Matt and Max 653 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: and Dale will take you up until four o'clock when 654 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: our coverage ends today. It's gonna be an exciting night 655 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: tonight with the quarterbacks in primetime. Maybe we'll discuss a 656 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: little bit of that before we get out of here 657 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: in our final segment as well. You are listening to 658 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: our ongoing coverage of the two NFL scouting combine live 659 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: on Radio Row, all brought to you by First National Bank. 660 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: Let's get started, remember F D I C. Don't you 661 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: dare go anywhere? Plenty more to come here on u 662 00:32:44,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: S n R Live from Indianapolis. This is continuing coverage 663 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: NFL Combine on Steelers Nation Radio. Final segment here for 664 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: the midday show, Wesley Oulder, Max starks Dale, Lolly, I'll 665 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: hand things off. I'll hand this headset off here to 666 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: our buddy Matt Williamson. In just a few minutes. Matt 667 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: Dale and Max will have two more hours live from 668 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: you here at Radio Row, leading up to when all 669 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: the workouts begin today at four o'clock quarterbacks tonight in 670 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: prime time. Our coverage here brought to you by First 671 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: National Bank. Let's get started, member, F D I C. 672 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that a million times, just like I'm 673 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: gonna remind you that at three thirty, Cam Heyward, the Captain, 674 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: the man gonna join. Oh who where's our sound? Effect 675 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: thing there. I mean, it's Cam Hayward gotta join the 676 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: show here. Oh waitit wrong one, there we go, Here 677 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: you go. I've been waiting for you to use that 678 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: all week. Wrong. Can't wait to hear what Cam has 679 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: to say out here. I'm sure who get asked about 680 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: his younger brother a little bit too. That'll be a 681 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: great conversation. So make sure you are staying tuned here 682 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: up until four o'clock. We're with you the rest of 683 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: the week as well to nobody covers the Combine and 684 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers like we do on s n R. Dale. 685 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: You woo hooed those quarterback workouts tonight that I mentioned legitimately? 686 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: How much can you take from this? Is there anything 687 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: that you're really looking for? Are we gonna do the 688 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson thing where someone's gonna make one throw and 689 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna go, oh my god, it's the greatest thrower. 690 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: That was his pro day to be fair, Yeah, so 691 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: you get to make that off schedule other guys in 692 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: the NFL have made over the course of night. Um, 693 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: but really, what can we deduce? What can we take 694 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: from tonight and what we see in those quarterback work. 695 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about these and it's much like the 696 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl week, is these guys are all throwing two 697 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: different guys. Guys are not necessarily used to throwing too 698 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: opposite from their pro days. Yeah, which is easy. Like 699 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: their pro days, they picked the guys, they hand picked 700 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: the guys they're going to be throwing too. Uh, in 701 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: the situations like this, these quarterbacks are coming in here 702 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: and they're throwing the guys that they you know, may 703 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: have maybe seen play on TV. Maybe they may play 704 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: with him a little bit at the Senior Bowl. You 705 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: don't you know, maybe they might have been on the 706 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: other roster. You just don't know. So you know, you know, 707 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: when you're throwing certain routes, Um, how does he read it? 708 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: Does you know? Is he is he overthrowing the receiver 709 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: because he thinks he's faster? Is you know? Is he 710 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: throwing it to the spot where it's supposed to be at? 711 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: Where's his ball placement at? On those throws? And you're 712 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: getting to see these guys do it back to back 713 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: to back to back to back, all do doing the 714 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, so okay, you're gonna make this back 715 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: shoulder throw. You make the back shoulder throw, you make 716 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: the backs. Okay, Now now you've got something tangible that 717 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: you can look at everything that this is a great 718 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: thing about football and why I think that analytics can 719 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: be somewhat overrated in football. It's it's a game that's 720 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: played outdoors. It's a game that's played in all weather. 721 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: And so if I'm playing in a twenty five mile 722 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: wind and you said, well, you should go for it 723 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: on third and six, but the winds in my face 724 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: here and it's raining, No, I'm gonna punt the football 725 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: like absolutely well, And that that's that's one of the 726 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: things I think, especially when we talk about outdoor whether Chicago, 727 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: Why has Chicago quarterbacks never done well at the end 728 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: of the year, right, and so shocking, So yeah, shocking 729 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: that you're right there degrees outside after thanks and the 730 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: wind is blowing up. So that's why you look at 731 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,479 Speaker 1: a justin fields because he can power the ball through 732 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: and try and cut some of that wind and all 733 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: those things matter. And that's where analytics, I feel, just 734 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: not pick it up. And that's why when you get 735 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: in here to you know, to Dale's point, it's everybody's 736 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: doing the same. Everybody's in the same conditions, and I 737 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: may or may not know you by the time I 738 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: throw to you, because even if I did throw to 739 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: you a senior Bowl, it's not guaranteed that when the 740 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: rotation goes that I'll get you again. So so now 741 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: you're working on pure your quarterback, your receiver. This is 742 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: the route, this is the read. Make it work. And 743 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: now we can see ball placement. Now we can see 744 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: how do you adjust to it? You know, do you 745 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: have to adjust to the ball? Does or does it 746 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: or does the receiver adjust to what you're trying to do. 747 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: You're watching them too, yeah, yeah, and you're trying to 748 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: pick up your cues before you get up there. So 749 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: it's always good to be QB two through five, right 750 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: versus QB one in those because at least you can 751 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: kind of get a rhythm for how is this going 752 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: to look? What's my time? Like fear factor, you never 753 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: want to be the first person to do the obstacle 754 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: course or whatever, because they gotta They're gonna okay, trial 755 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: and error, and then the next person goes through and 756 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, we did that different than the first 757 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: try to. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try the cross 758 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: reverse grip when I'm holding onto the side of the building. Yeah, 759 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, or I'm not gonna put my hand in 760 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: that box because now I know it's a bunch of 761 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: like cockroach, Like where is that show dog at Joe 762 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: Rogan kind of you know what. Squid Game reminded me 763 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that ship Yes, yes, not reality. Yeah, 764 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, you don't want to be the 765 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: first one to run across that field because then you 766 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: find out what happens when you move the light turns red. Yeah, 767 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: exact exactly that that I mean, that absolutely scared me 768 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: for childhood games because they were all the childhood games, 769 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, you like we played light green Light every day, 770 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: every day, but I never got shot by a K 771 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: forty seven because I moved, you know, I just had 772 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: to go to the back of the line. I'll tell 773 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: you what would be really interesting is if we had 774 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: some of that tonight at the work. You know, you 775 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: missed the throw, You're done, then we'd see some real 776 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: Listen you talking about concentration. Anything that you're this is 777 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: this is kind of what I asked a day to 778 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: start the segment. Anything that you're looking for specifically tonight 779 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: Is it just that that rhythm of watching these guys 780 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: and seeing the differences. Is it the connection with the 781 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: wide receivers that they might not have worked with at 782 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: all in the past. What do you want to deduce 783 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: from the quarterback workouts this evening? I think one of 784 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: the biggest things is just gonna see how you operate 785 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: under that stress right where you're throwing or you're getting 786 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: into a mechanical type of I gotta make this throw. 787 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: Did you are your throws consistent? Yeah? I don't want 788 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: to see wildly different throws from from throw to throw. 789 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: You know, how tight is that spiral, especially when're talking 790 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: about those when they do the crossing routes? You know, 791 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: I want to see how and how does that receiver 792 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: respond right? Is he gonna clutch up because you have 793 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: to run behind this dummy bag, you know? And for 794 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: the receivers for me, I think the biggest drill I 795 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: like is that is kind of that rope drill where 796 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: they just turn each way and make the catches, because 797 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: that's why, yeah, where where you see some guys just 798 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: won't make once they get once they missed it, like 799 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: the second one, three through five is just like okay, 800 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: this drill's done. Yeah, but can you have that short 801 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 1: term memory loss and get back into the rhythm. It's 802 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: like as a hiccup or you know, I just wasn't 803 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: anticipating it there and I move on through. So it's 804 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: just seeing how guys progress when they don't allow anything 805 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: to bleed into the next throw or play. And for 806 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: the receivers, you want to see the hand catcher. Does 807 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: he use his body or a body catcher? Yeah? Because 808 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: if your body catcher, probably not gonna work out. And 809 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: that's where the gauntlet drill shows that, right, because most 810 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,240 Speaker 1: often than not, the guy that misses that second one, 811 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: he's to catch in his chest. Yeah, And and that's 812 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: what you want to see, Okay, how can he respond? 813 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: And my biggest thing is it's not I do want 814 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: to see the foot speed of the wide receivers, but 815 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, how does your footwork work? You know, because 816 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: you have those escape drills, right, how does how do 817 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: you keep your body online and on target? Because some 818 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: guys tend to drop their eyes a little bit and 819 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: then they have to relocate the guy and then you 820 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of power it, Like you said the overthrows, you 821 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: power it because you lost your eyes spinning out of something. 822 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: So can you keep your body adjusted as you move 823 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: out because that's another thing that's gonna be big in 824 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: the Steeler's offense. Right, it's on the move, running and 825 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: throwing because that's what Matt Canada wants. He wants that 826 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: r p o esque type of approach to a quarterback 827 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: and Ben couldn't do that. So you know, you get 828 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 1: into the pissie moment about that and then you overdo 829 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: it with Mason trying and you give them way too much. 830 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: From that perspective, We're like, Okay, we want you to 831 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: try and get out of here, get out of there, 832 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: and give you the options. So that's gonna be really 833 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: I think indicative and we'll get to see that on primetime. Yeah, 834 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm interest it to see again, like how some of 835 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: these guys throw on the right on the move. Um, 836 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: you know because a lot of times, uh, one of 837 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: the things that you see with with the the quote 838 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: unquote mobile we're running quarterbacks is they don't get their 839 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: feet under them when and so they'll throw their their 840 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: shoulders aren't square and you see what happens. The ball 841 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: goes sailing or they throw it short into the duck. Yeah, right, 842 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: that duck. When that just you're like like, oh wow, there, 843 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, and so those are more there's some arms 844 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: strength throws there. Yeah, and and so you know, can 845 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: you are you able to power that um? Especially rolling 846 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: to the left For a lot of those right handed quarterbacks, 847 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: that that's one that's always the toughest adjustment because are 848 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: my legs cross what I'm thinking of receiving or did 849 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: I make sure that my hands were planted because you're 850 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: still falling away and can you keep that strength? It's 851 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: different when you're rolling out to the right because you're 852 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: rolling right throwing a cross body, which technically you're not 853 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: supposed to be supposed to do. Pat Mahomes makes living 854 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: out of it. There's no no, no, no, yeah, hey 855 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 1: six percent of the time. It works all the time. 856 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, but they're and they're usually throwing sideline ropes, 857 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: so you can get your body behind that because the 858 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: mechanics will allow it. But off when you're rolling offside 859 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: and trying to throw on that drag, it's about three 860 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: or four yards behind you. How does that look? And 861 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: those are the throws young Ben used to be able 862 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: to make, Like eyes closed, Yeah, I like crazy. I 863 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: mean his arm he was underrated. I think throughout the 864 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: course of his career for his arm strength. Well, and 865 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: I think if young Ben were here today, he's number one, 866 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: picking his number one because he's he's like because why 867 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: would he need to? Yeah, exactly, so I think, And 868 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: it's one thing, like you said, generational, right, it comes. 869 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: Ben came at a time where it was big, burly 870 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: guys in pocket passers, right, so we wanted to ground 871 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: and pound. And when you get that freestyle, you know, 872 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: type of player, it's like you're trying to cage the animal, 873 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, in those situations. And of course he matured 874 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: and then when that was nouveaux. Now I'm just gonna 875 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: get the ball on too. Let me get rid of it. 876 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: I'm good. I know what that feels like now. Uh So, 877 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: the schedule for tonight tight ends, quarterbacks, wide receivers all 878 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: begins at four o'clock on the NFL network up until 879 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: eleven PM. And then these guys, I'm sure gonna be 880 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: back at it early tomorrow doing something different. And that's 881 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: again part of the whole How do you respond mentally? 882 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: How do you respond to stress and dress um and 883 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: so it works out well for everybody's schedule. You listen 884 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: to SNR up until four o'clock, are live coverage here 885 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: and then and then the work And as you mentioned earlier, Max, 886 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, these guys don't get to go 887 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: back to their room and and take a nap in 888 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: between this. No, you're you're you're posting up in a 889 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: ballroom somewhere and you're on that hard car, but you're 890 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: trying trying to put your little baggy of what you know, 891 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: your sweatshirt underneath the back of your neck, and you're 892 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: trying to get your legs up in the air to 893 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: get the lactic gas it out. I mean, you're you're, 894 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: you're in these confines when that room has a nice 895 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: coushy bed, has air conditioning, turn the lights off, but 896 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: it's like the curtains, it looks like it's dark out, 897 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: exactly blackout curtains. And then now you're like, I won't 898 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 1: see that again until about ten PM tonight, maybe maybe 899 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: eleven thirty UM at best. And they were over here, 900 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, at eight o'clock this morning doing the press, Yeah, 901 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: doing bitch press. And then it was like, oh yeah, 902 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: break to Oh by the way, we're gonna do meetings, 903 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna do media availability, and then oh we got 904 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: lunch for you, though, we got lunch for you, and 905 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: then oh yeah we're back. Hurry up and wait, hurry 906 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: up and wait. That's that's a lot of what these 907 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: things we need to medical recheck while you're at it. Yeah, exactly, 908 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: you know what, Cassie your right ankle, real fast. It was. 909 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: We didn't get we didn't go Dorsey, we only we 910 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: only went plan reflection. Can we just do that real fast? 911 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: Some breaking news before we go here, gentlemen, all thirty 912 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, we're informed today that the NFL 913 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: and the NFL p A have agreed to end all 914 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen protocols mandatory testing over We can ask Cama 915 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: Heyward about that. My first thought is that makes me 916 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 1: think St. Vincent's real Possibly. I tweeted that out earlier 917 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: when I saw that that, Yes, it looks like they'll 918 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 1: probably we'll be going back to St. Vincent College. We'll 919 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: be back in the locker rooms. Team travel travels an option. 920 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: Now it's all different now that it affects all of 921 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: our lives, and uh in a positive way. There are 922 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: guys who have been with the Steelers now they're going 923 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: into their third year, who have never had reporters in 924 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: the locker room. I remember talking with I talked with 925 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: Burt Lowton about that late in the season and he's like, 926 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: a lot of these because colleges, you don't work, you 927 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: don't have So every year for rookie minicamp, when the 928 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: reporters come into the locker room and the players look around, like, 929 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: are we supposed to talk to these guys this year? 930 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: I imagine we're on a car. We're a zoom call 931 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: with Naji during Rookie Mini Rookie Mini camp and I 932 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: asked him about a catch that he made in during 933 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: the the practice and he said, where were you at? 934 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: I said, we were the guys standing on the on 935 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: the balcony. He says, oh, I thought you guys were boosters. 936 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: He's that boosters like, No, I'm like friends of the programs. 937 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: We were not dressed like boosters. That was exactly we 938 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: weren't decked down and Steelers. When Mike Tomlin said there 939 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: wasn't a booster with a big enough check, that's not 940 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: what he was. So, I mean, they just they just 941 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: don't know make makeing. Fitzpatrick has been He's going in 942 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: the year four with the Steelers and has never been 943 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: the same things of college. Yeah, that's that's just crazy 944 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: in and of itself. I mean, that is the right 945 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: of passage. When you talk about it, it's a bonding thing, yeah, 946 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,479 Speaker 1: I mean, and that that that's what really it gets 947 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 1: down to. When you talk about the teams that that 948 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: make it. You have to have that moment and always 949 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: for us the entire time I was in Pittsburgh, I mean, 950 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: that was our moment where we bonded with our with 951 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: our with our with our guys in our room. We 952 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: also bonded with that side of the ball, but also 953 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: the whole team because it all sucks, don't matter if 954 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: you if you ordered your bed from Brenda Center, you 955 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: got the lazy Boy recliner and the forty inch TV. 956 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: We all got to sit in that same crappy stone walls. 957 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: And then even for the report, right, we're all in 958 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: the dorms together, everybody's together, everybody's going to chow Hall, 959 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: same place. You know, you got things like the softball 960 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: game and things of that nature. Softball games like the 961 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: Comedy Night and the Rookie show. I mean, you get 962 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 1: all of these like cool moments that just that galvanize 963 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 1: your team, and you kind of missed that over the 964 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: last season, and you could see how that could fracture 965 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: a team a little bit quite as close you No, 966 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,919 Speaker 1: you're not quite there. So I'm happy to hear that, man, 967 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: because it really means a lot of If you get 968 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: those chances, absolutely, that will certainly be something that will 969 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: keep an eye on here over the coming weeks and months. 970 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: But it's time for me to hop out here. That's 971 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: been the midday show. This has been the midday show. 972 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson will line change for me. Matt Dale and 973 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: Max will take you up until four o'clock. Reminder three 974 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: thirty right here on SNR Camp Heyward sits down with 975 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: us on Radio Row. So don't you dare go anywhere. 976 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: Two more hours of live cut Rich coming at you 977 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: from the Scouting Combine at the Indiana Convention Center. As 978 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: always on your seven home with the Black and Golden 979 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio