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All right, it's expected possibly before the show ends, 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: or maybe even on the Conway Show, there will be 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: a news conference out of Texas to update everyone on 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: the horror that occurred at an elementary school in a 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: place called Uvalde, Texas, outside of San Antonio. Fourteen elementary 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: school children killed, one teacher killed, several people in critical condition. 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: An eighteen year old suitor who yes, looks like he 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: did some social media posting about his intentions. Will fill 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: you in and see what else we can find out, 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: because there's some strange other details that have been floating 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: around most of the day concerning some sort of a 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: chase and he may have crashed his car and ran 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: into the school barricaded himself in, but he is dead 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: as well, So if this happens during our show, will 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: certainly bring it to you here on K five. James 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Tubbs has been in the news four months, sometimes as James, 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: sometimes as his transgender alter ego Hannah. Last we heard, 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: Hannah had convinced gascone that he was a woman and 36 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: ended up going to a girl's juvenile detention center for 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: a year and a half after admitting guilt in a 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: sexual malays State molestation case of a ten year old. 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: Going back to twenty fourteen, now turns out that Tubbs, 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: back when he was James in Bakersfield in twenty nineteen, 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: killed a man, beat him with a rock. Guy's name 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: was Michael Clark. They were in some kind of survivalist 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: transient group. That indictment came down yesterday and we're going 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: to talk out of se Shay Santa Shay was handling 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: the LA case as a deputy DA for Gascone. Shay, 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: how are you. I'm doing well. Thanks for having me 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: on this. What are your thoughts on the charges up 48 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: up in Bakersfield. I mean it sounds like a brutal killing. 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: Rocks rock to the head, beat him till he died. Yeah, 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean the facts that came out yesterday and the 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: evidence shows that Tubbs praise on vulnerable victims, and in 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: this case of the victim, Michael Clark was votable and 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: Tubbs was the leader of this group and Tubs, in 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: the early morning hours, right before sunrise, lured him out 55 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: to the water's edge and beat him with the rock 56 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: and threw his body into the current river. Last time 57 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: you were on with us and we talked about this case, 58 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: it was still pending then in Baker's Field. You intimated 59 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: that George Gascone either knew or should have known that 60 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: this case was brewing in Bakersfield and used that as 61 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: part of his decision when he gave that easy sentence 62 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: to Tubs to go to the juvenile center. Yes, so 63 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: George Gascon could have brought Tubs and tried him as 64 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: an adult, but he refused to. And Tubs a record 65 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: that shows he preys on vulnerable victims, he is extremely violent, 66 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: manipulative um and he refused to even look at anything. 67 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: There are emails and correspondence where the administration has put 68 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: on notice that Tubs is violent and he's gonna be, 69 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, recidivistic, he's likely to commit future violent crimes, 70 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: and that was not considered. Was there anything anything about 71 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: specifically a Bakersfield murder incident? Was Was there any hint 72 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: that something terrible would happened there? Uh? No, not in 73 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: on file. However, the victim did know Tubs and was 74 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: related to another crime that Tubs was arrested for. So 75 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Tib has had an assaulted his victim in the past 76 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: and that was part of his record, which should have 77 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: been con But we're not allowed to consider anything like 78 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: that under Gascon's administration his policies. So you knew it 79 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: he had assaulted Michael Clark in the past, so when 80 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Clark ended up dead, it should have been assumed that 81 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: perhaps Tubbs had something to do with it, since they 82 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: were in that same group together. Yeah. I mean, that's 83 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: in Current County, so we weren't really investigating that crime. 84 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: And I can't speak on Current County Beath, but I 85 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: think that they're doing an excellent job based on what 86 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: I saw yesterday at the preliminary hearing, it just seems 87 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: like he was such a monster. He should have been 88 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: the last guy to get this break and to be 89 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: given a juvenile sentence and a juvenile girls sentence because 90 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: of this questionable transgender change that he's claiming. I mean, 91 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: all of it looks in retrospect now just preposterous. It 92 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: was preposterous from the very beginning. We pointed this out 93 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: to the administration. It's no surprise, but it was Gascon 94 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: the blanket policy. Here's something that looks bad with stupid 95 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: under the rug, and I was unwilling to do that. 96 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: And then when it came to light, the Gascon administration 97 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: denied it, blamed everybody else, tried to silence me, and 98 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: then has began this retaliation process against me, and thankfully 99 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: current County stepped up and took Tubs into custody. And 100 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Gascon's also letting the media in the courts and everybody 101 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: go around calling Tubs Hannah when the name Hannah wasn't 102 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: even made up until months after he was in la custody. 103 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: We have recordings of him making up the name Hannah. Oh, 104 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: you have recordings as he was making up the name Yeah, 105 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: between ten nine s nine thirty in the morning and 106 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: three o'clock in the afternoon on January fifth of twenty 107 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: twenty two, he was making up to the Inhanna. Somewhere 108 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: in between that period on that day he made up 109 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: to the Inhana. It isn't the important thing about it, say, 110 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: it isn't the important thing here. This is the type 111 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: of person that George Gascon will let's slide through the 112 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: legal system, especially since Gascon has had this no exceptions 113 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: policy that you know, he decided that because he was 114 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: not even eighteen at the time. Also, what he's sexually 115 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: molested a little girl, but let's treat him as a minor. 116 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: His brain hasn't developed yet. This guy went on to 117 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: commit many more crimes, including now it appears to be 118 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: a murder. This is the danger of Gascon. He has 119 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: no judgment. He's decided to go light on anyone that's 120 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: under the under the age of eighteen. And Tubbs has 121 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: proven that that policy is dangerous. Yes, yes, And then 122 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: he tried to walk back that policy. Gascon to walk 123 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: back it with this board, this committee to transfer juveniles 124 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: to adults, but not one juvenil has been transferred to adults. 125 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: And the people on the committee are the same people 126 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: that try to sabotage at the Tubs case, knowing everything 127 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: that everybody knows, knowing he, you know, is violent, knowing 128 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: that he has sexually assaulted, admitted to at least one 129 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: underage girl, and they're aware of another rest for underage girl. 130 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: They know he has two strikes out of the county, 131 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: out of the state, I mean, and another strike in 132 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: Kerrent County, and they just want to sweep into the rug. 133 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: And those are the people on the committee that we're 134 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: supposed to trust to transfer violent sexual predators and murderers 135 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: to adult court, the same people that are trying to 136 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: silence me. They're incredibly stubborn, aren't they. No How, no 137 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: matter how much news comes out about tubs. Nobody comes 138 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: and says, hey, we blew this one right. Then you 139 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: would think they would take it seriously after they learn 140 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: of all these facts, or after the press comes to 141 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: him with questions, but all they do is deny, retaliate 142 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: and trying to sweep in under the rug, and then 143 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: more facts that make him look even worse enough. Well, 144 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: thank you, Shay, Yeah, thanks for coming on again and 145 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: lending your expertise to us analyzing this story. We appreciate it. Yes, 146 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: no problem, thank you for having me. All right. That's 147 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: La County Deputy District Attorney Shay Sanna, one of the 148 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: brave ones that goes on media to talk about his 149 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: objections to his boss, the La County District Attorney, George Gascone. 150 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: And this of course concerns what looks to be the 151 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: worst of the worst, a man that was treated lightly 152 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: because he was just short of his eighteenth birthday after 153 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: molesting a little girl, and he finds his way through 154 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: the system and now he's charged with a murder in 155 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: Current County that occurred three years ago. Ken show caf I, 156 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: we'll bring you up to date. At five o'clock on 157 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: the mass shooting at a school in Texas that took 158 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: the lives of fourteen elementary school students and one teacher. 159 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: There's a couple of other people in critical condition. The 160 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: shooter is dead, and of course, it appears put himself 161 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: on social media not long before the shots were fired. 162 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: Earlier today, the El Segundo Times finally did a story 163 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: we brought you last week about how Eric Garcetti's parents 164 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: have hired lobbyists to help him get the ambassadorship to India. 165 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: And I thought about the story today because apparently Biden, 166 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: who's on this Asian tour, was implying that India could 167 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: be responsible for the darkness that is coming over the 168 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: world thanks to Putin's invasion of Ukraine. India has basically 169 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: remained neutral. They have not participated in the sanction is 170 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: the condemnations that most of the other countries have, and 171 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: of course it's neutral, veering on siding with Russia because 172 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: Russia is now offering them discount oil and India needs 173 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot of it. Right there, there are what a billion, 174 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: two hundred million people something. You can't sell out your 175 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: principles just for oil. Well they did, or maybe they 176 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: never had him. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. 177 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: That's why they're walking the fine line. Russia is a 178 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: big trading part, right, so they want the cheap oil. 179 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: They've got like a once in a lifetime oil to 180 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: get oil at a big discount, and they're helping fund 181 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: Russia's war and effect against Ukraine. So made me think 182 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: that it's important maybe that there is an ambassador in 183 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: that position to try to work the Indian government into 184 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: doing more about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. But we 185 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: don't have one because Garcetti is still dangling in the wind. 186 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: So why don't you just dump him and find some else? No, 187 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: and Biden won't cut him. Nope. So Gil and Suki Garcetti, 188 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: you have hired this McGuire Woods consulting firm. They hire 189 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: them in April to help their son. One analyst in 190 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: the story says, it's like parents who hire some big 191 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: outside consulting agency to get their kid into college. Yes, 192 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Well, there's in this story. And I 193 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: don't know if this is a subtle dig or this 194 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: is just the standard way they they write, but it 195 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: said Gil in Suki Garcetti retained McGuire Woods Consulting to 196 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: help their fifty one year old son. Yeah, pathetic. They're 197 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: eight eighty two. So the guy's fifty one and he's 198 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: been in politics in la here over twenty years, and 199 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: he actually has his mom and dad hire a lobbying agency. 200 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: Expert said, I've never seen anything like this before. It's weird. 201 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: And then they talk about how the mayor's worth millions 202 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: and lobbying firms have a minimum monthly retainer. This is Washington, DC. 203 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Lobbying companies ten to fifteen thousand. Some can charge up 204 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: to fifty grand a month. Well why more, and they've 205 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: been they've been hired since April. Why are they paying 206 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: his lobbying bill. I don't know. I mean a gil 207 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: is eighty. They were probably like killed us. There anything 208 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: we can do, anything we can do to help you. 209 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: We'd like to get you to India. Gets you out 210 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: of the country too. At Kilgar City. Yeah, here's that quote. 211 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: It's a bit like when the parents hire the most 212 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: expensive coach they can find. He got them in the 213 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: most expensive university. That's sad. He's got no shame. I 214 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: mean that it's because their dud's son wasn't smart enough 215 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: to cut Rick Jacobs the first time he heard or 216 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: saw that something gross was going on. I mean, this 217 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: stuff's disgusting what he was doing. That's what It's a 218 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: kind of story that weirds people out. It's like, what 219 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: do you mean You're a was running around forcing his 220 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: mouth on other people's mouths. What are you? What are 221 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: you doing here? Like he's he's grabbing people, you know, 222 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: the CoP's arms and he's putting his hands on people's crotches. 223 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: Oh and yeah, I mean, on what planet does Garcetti 224 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: not especially it also shows you he doesn't really believe 225 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: the crap that he spouts all the the you know, 226 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: equal rights me to blah blah blah, it's just stuff 227 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: to sail to the boobs. Yeah, it doesn't personally offend him. 228 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: It was happening in front of his eyes, and it 229 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: didn't bother him. The Garcetti's put out a statement and 230 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: this is where I guess Eric got the way he speaks. 231 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: We're a close family. If something happens to one of us, 232 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: it happens to all of us, and everyone helps out. 233 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: So we bought on a trusted advisor to help tell 234 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: the truth. We are thinking about the unkind things that 235 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: a critic might say we're thinking about our family and 236 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: how important it is to stand by each other, show integrity, 237 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: be truthful. Wow, I mean he raised a liar. Yeah 238 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: what heret how he actually said that, You know, we're 239 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: showing integrity and then Eric Arseti is showing integrity. Boy, 240 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: you talk about opposite day you talk about you think 241 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: they believe him or they're just doing this because they 242 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: want their dad son to continue in politics. I don't 243 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: really understand people like this, I really don't. I don't 244 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: get political people who just spend all day shoveling horsecrap 245 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: at people, just just blowing a lot of gas and 246 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: expecting people to fall for it. Every everything, everything is 247 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: a prepackaged public relations line. Everything is some scripted comeback, 248 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: some some spun nonsense. It's really awful. It's really awful. 249 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: That's the dominant communication in public life down the dominant 250 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: communication is just horsecrap. All right. Twenty five years Well, 251 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, thirty five years doctor James Heap was 252 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: giving gynecological examination at UCLA, and we learned in the 253 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: past couple of years that he may have been abusing many, many, 254 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: many women that came to him. The payout has now 255 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: reached seven hundred million dollars, the largest ever related to 256 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: sex abuse involving a public university. We'll talk about it next. 257 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: I just found one more thing. The president of the 258 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: American Academy of Diplomacy, the guy named Ronald Newman, he's 259 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: been an ambassador three times. He said he's never heard 260 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: of someone hiring a lobbyist to become an ambassador. Yeah. 261 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: One guy said, it's just a hail Mary. Yeah, they 262 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: really don't know what else to do. Johnny ketchok five 263 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: tomorrow on Fox eleven. A documentary debuts Lost Angelus City 264 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: of Homeless at six o'clock tomorrow on Fox eleven. And 265 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm in it throughout, so six to seven thirty watch it, 266 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: record it. It's Fox eleven Lost Angeles at six o'clock tomorrow. 267 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: And also CNN is reporting that a Texas State senator 268 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: is quoting the Texas Rangers law enforcement claiming eighteen children, 269 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: two adults killed by that shooter. Oh, that would be more. 270 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: Maybe some of the people taken to the hospital if 271 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: since died. Yeah, we were running at fourteen students. So 272 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: we'll have a full rundown of the story at five 273 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: oh five, and we're still waiting to see if there 274 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: is going to be a press conference. It was scheduled 275 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: at three, but they moved it, pushed it, so who knows. 276 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: Maybe they might have been a development that John just 277 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: mentioned that they wanted to have a more complete information 278 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: before they stood before the media. So we'll see if 279 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: that happens before the show ends, but KFI will carry 280 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: it whenever it does happen. I'm looking for a quote 281 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: from I'm looking at a quote from Vince Finaldi of 282 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: Manly Stewart and finalde We're going to get someone else 283 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: on in a moment from the law firm. They of 284 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: course have represented sex abuse victims in many stories we've 285 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: covered over the years, including teachers and priests, but this 286 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: one is what's been going on in the past few years, 287 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: which is mind boggling. Sexual abuse by university doctors is 288 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: an epidemic in the United States, so is the proclivity 289 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: of university officials to enable this abuse and attempt to 290 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: cover it up. Because the story today is that the 291 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: survivors of this UCLA gynecologist oncologist James Heaps, are going 292 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: to receive seven hundred million dollars in money because of 293 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: his sex abuse. He worked for the university for nearly 294 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: thirty five years, and he was powerful, he was well paid. 295 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: I have a theory that it's because he was a 296 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 1: real rainmaker that they probably ignored complaint. It built up 297 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: to the point where they couldn't ignore him anymore, and 298 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: now they're stuck with this huge payout. Seven hundred million dollars, 299 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: five hundred and fifteen victims represented in the lawsuit. And 300 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: we're going to get Jane Riley on and she's an 301 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: attorney with the law firm Manly Stewart Infernaldi. Jane, welcome, 302 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: How are you good afternoon, Thanks so much for having me. 303 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: This is a tremendous, gigantic settlement. Five hundred and fifteen 304 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: people involved, Jane in the settlement, yes, and that's actually 305 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: only a fraction of the number of women who were 306 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: subjected to this predator. What's really sad about this case is, 307 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: as you mentioned at the top, he was an oncologist 308 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: as well as a gynecologist, and you know, unfortunately many 309 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: of his victims passed away before they were able to 310 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: ever see this day or get justice in the case. 311 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: And in addition, there was a class action settlement that 312 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: ECLA and into that included thousands of survivors as well. 313 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: So it's a great day for sexual abuse survivors everywhere. 314 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Settlements like this always send a message to these institutions 315 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: that this behavior just can't continue. Six thousand patients potentially 316 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: that he's had through the years in the system, and 317 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: it could well be in excess of that. He was 318 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: a physician at the UCLA Student Health Center for many years, 319 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: and he was also treating patients at Ronald Reagan Hospital 320 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: in addition to his practice on the UCLA campus, and 321 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, for thirty five years he was doing this. 322 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: I think most people listening and maybe they've heard a 323 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: little bit about this case, or maybe maybe not at all, 324 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: are probably dumbfounded in shock that somebody could sexually abuse 325 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: hundreds or thousands of grown women for the most part, 326 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: and a lot of this got reported to you CLA 327 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: administrators up and down the line, and that nothing came 328 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: of it for thirty five years. I mean, it just 329 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like that's possible in the real world, 330 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: especially a world they were so sensitized to sexual abuse 331 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: and violence against women and all these movements that have 332 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: gone on. How could this can you can you explain 333 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: what the internal culture was that kept such a tight 334 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: lid on the abuse. Absolutely, and like you mentioned on 335 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: the leading of the marinemaker, and I think that really 336 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: sums up a lot of what was happening here. He 337 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: was at one point the highest paid physician in the 338 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: entire uc system. Um he in fact also got him 339 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: to some trouble for fraudulent billing m So he was 340 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: making a ton of money for UCLA and women were 341 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: being referred to him at the lowest point of their 342 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: lives when they got cancer diagnosis and being told they 343 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: may not live. So they're coming to him in this 344 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: extremely vulnerable state. And that combination of he's making the 345 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: university so much money and bringing them this prestige on 346 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: the one hand, and on the other hand, you have 347 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: women that are simply just fighting for their lives and 348 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: are trusting him to give them the best medical care. 349 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: So this was the money, the money that the patients 350 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: and their insurance companies were paying for the medical services exactly, 351 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: And so UCLA was reaping a huge profit off their 352 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: medical issues. Definitely, And as you mentioned, this was reported. 353 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: It was reported to the Medical Board as far back 354 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: as the late nineties, reported again to the Medical Board 355 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, reported to numerous UCLA administrators and other 356 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: employees throughout the years. And you know, this reckoning of 357 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: sexual abuse, especially in the guidecological realm. Before a few 358 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: years ago, it just seems like people weren't taking women 359 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: seriously and weren't taking these complaints seriously. Hopefully we're finally 360 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: starting to enter into a culture where, you know, when 361 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: someone speaks up about the sort of thing, something's actually 362 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: done about it. What do we know about all those 363 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: complaints where the reports made where they ignored, was it 364 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: a combination? What do we know about the details of 365 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: all these complaints that you said came up over the years. 366 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: Some women simply never got a response one way or 367 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: the other, and some there they were simply told, you know, 368 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: we looked into this and basically, we don't believe you. 369 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: And they took his word over theirs, and took the 370 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 1: words of the chaperones who were protecting him, and unfortunately, 371 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: everything just sort of died on the vine until finally, 372 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, there was a report that was taken seriously, finally, 373 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: and he was eventually put on leave and dismiss from 374 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: the rom He had chaperones working for UCLA in the room, 375 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: and they all protected him when it came time to 376 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: tell the story exactly. And then oftentimes he didn't even 377 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: have a chaperone in the room, which is against policy, 378 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: of course, and below the standard of care. Any of 379 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: these administrators ever suffer any discipline, anybody ever get fired, 380 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, And that's a big issue in these cases, 381 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: as we're always pushing law enforcement to look into the 382 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: administrative side. You know, that's what happened in the Michigan 383 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: State case where officials were prosecuted here, and it is 384 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: the same thing in US. Either really hasn't been that 385 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: scrutiny on the administrative level, and until you create change 386 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: in that realm, you're going to continue to have bad 387 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: actors infiltrating the system and using it to their advantage. 388 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: Can I just say this, Jane, We covered the George 389 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: Tindall story too, and I'm just putting this out there 390 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: for what it's worth. This is the only time we 391 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: covered a sex abusing doctor. This would be heaps that 392 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: we actually got emails from some women who praised him. 393 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: They couldn't believe the story. They didn't want to believe 394 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: the story. We didn't have that with Tindal or any 395 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: other medical professional we covered was involved in alleged sex abuse. 396 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: So I just wonder, now he has been indicted by 397 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: a grand jury, right he has, and he's actually coming 398 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: up for criminal trial in August of this year. Yeah, 399 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: I just just found that fascinating. But obviously he didn't 400 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: sexually abuse every woman that he examined or treated, so 401 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: I can understand that, but they were yes, go ahead. 402 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: I think part of it too is, you know, some 403 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: people were so grateful to him that they in credit 404 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: him for saving their lives. Again, he's treating cancer patients, 405 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: and you're going to have a contingent of people that, 406 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: you know, either nothing happened to them, which is great, 407 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: and or they're so grateful to him that they credit 408 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: him for saving their lives that that's sort of the 409 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: predominating emotion. You know. We we've talked to members of 410 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: and we've had John Manley on many times and mister 411 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: finaldi and twenty years worth of cases, like Ken said 412 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: at the beginning, with the diocese with various schools, and 413 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: it seems like to some extent it's the same story 414 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: every time nobody cared in all these administrations. They were 415 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: just afraid of getting bad publicity, but nobody actually cared 416 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: about the women, the men, the little boys, little girls. 417 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: There's just seems to be something in a lot of 418 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: people's human nature that sexual crimes like this just doesn't register. 419 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: It just doesn't get them upset. And I think it's 420 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: that they, like you said, you don't want to You 421 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: don't want to rock the boat or risk any bad publicity. 422 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: But the irony of this, and this has played out 423 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: over and over again. If you let the problem continue, 424 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: even if you look at it from a completely self 425 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: interested point of view, and you've set aside the damage 426 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: to the victims, which is horrific, you're gonna create more 427 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: problems for yourself later down the line the longer you 428 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: allow this to fester. And hopefully that's starting to get 429 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: through to some of these institutions. Even if they're only 430 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: looking out for their own self interests, they can't afford 431 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: to allow this to keep happening. All right, Jane, thanks 432 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: for talking to us. We appreciate it absolutely, Thank you 433 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: for covering the story. Yep. That's Jane Riley, an attorney 434 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: with Manly Stewart and finalde And yeah, I thought about 435 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: that same point she just made regards to the Catholic 436 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: Church and these archdioceses and the mahodies. They just ignored 437 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: this and let it fester to the point where it 438 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: just blows up so big. They're gone, They're completely inundated. 439 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: And she made the point that maybe maybe that will 440 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: start to change when you have you. Sorry to break in, guys, 441 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: but that news conference is starting out and not taking 442 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: any questions for the investigation is not complete. This is 443 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: a tragic time in our district and we greatly appreciate 444 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: your patience and understanding. Here to provide an short statement 445 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: and not taking any questions is our u. Valdi, CISD. 446 00:27:52,960 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: Chief of Police, Pete, I don't see ye switch. Would 447 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: you like me to do this? Let's do this again 448 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: for sure, this is the time apologize. It did not 449 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: realize we were not on and you probably could not 450 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: hear what I was saying. I am Amory Espinoza, Executive 451 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: Directive Communications and Marketing for you. Voudi, CISD. This is 452 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: a tragic time in our district, so please know the 453 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: investigation is not complete. We will only be sharing a 454 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: statement with you not providing questions. We greatly appreciate your 455 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: patience and understanding. Here to share a statement and not 456 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: take questions, is our you Voudi, CISD. Chief of Police 457 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: Pete Aroondo, thank you, Good evening. Again, briefly, as of now, 458 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: we are still working on this active investigation. Once we're 459 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: able to provide information to the families, we will do so. 460 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: First for and foremost, Obviously, our priorities is to get 461 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: information to our families and give them some information, so 462 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: please bear with us in regards to that. Secondly, once 463 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: we do get some information that we can release to 464 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: the public, we will be doing that. So please know, 465 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: once we do get some information, we will share that 466 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: with you and call another press conference. Let me assure 467 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: you the intruder is deceased and we are not actively 468 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: looking for another individual or any other suspects in this case. 469 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: We definitely ask you all to keep the family, the 470 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: families that are involved in your prayers. Thank you so much. 471 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: Is that it here to provide a statement and not 472 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: take any questions, is our superintendent Doctor Hall Harold, good evening. 473 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: This was a tragic, senseless event today and my heart 474 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: was broke today. Our hearts and thoughts and prayers or 475 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: with all our families as we go through the this 476 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: day and days to come. A few announcements that we 477 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: need to make is beginning tomorrow at ten am, we 478 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: will have grief counseling and support at the civic Center 479 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: for our students, our staff, community members, anybody that needs 480 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: to come at that time, and we may be there 481 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: more than one day, maybe there several days. Our ROB 482 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: staff will meet at eight am at the civic Center 483 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: as well. We will begin with visiting with them and 484 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: seeing what those needs are. School we'll be closed. The 485 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: school years done. We will have no school tomorrow or Thursday. 486 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: All activities are canceled throughout the district. No graduation is 487 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: on people's mind. We will come out with a notice 488 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: on that at a later time. All the staff members 489 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: they will report to their campuses other than a ROB campus, 490 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: which will come to the civic center. Again, my heart 491 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: was broken to day or a small community and well 492 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: we need your prayers to get us through this. Thank 493 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: you again. This is a tragic event in our community. 494 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: We are very sorry that we cannot provide you more information, 495 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: but greatly appreciate your patients and understanding during this very 496 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: difficult time. We asked that you pray for all of 497 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: the families affected. Thank you, be safe. All right. That's 498 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: the news conference from Uvaldi, Texas, where a shooter walked 499 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: into a school and killed eighteen school children and two adults. 500 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: Eventually he was killed by the police. And his name 501 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: was Salvador Roma, eighteen years old or Ramos, they corrected 502 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: the name. Ramos was born in North Dakota, lived in Uvaldi, 503 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: and he shot his grandmother before heading to the school. 504 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: He was in a shootout with Border Patrol agents, one 505 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: of those agents injured. He barricaded himself inside the school 506 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: building and here we go. He posted photos of his 507 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: guns on Instagram, and before the shooting he messaged. He 508 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: messaged one girl he vaguely knew, hinting he was planning 509 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: an attack. Ra almost tagged her in a photo of 510 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: his guns and wrote, I got a little secret I 511 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: want to tell you. Be grateful I tagged you, and 512 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: she replied, no, it's just scary. I barely know you 513 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: and you tagged me in a picture with some guns. 514 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: He supposedly he was an eighteen year old student at 515 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: the local high school. He shot his grandmother first. She 516 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: is supposedly alive but critical, and then went to the 517 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: school to open fire, then barricaded himself in a room. 518 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: He was eventually killed by responding officers, and the victims 519 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: were aged between seven and eleven. According to CNN, it's 520 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: like it's really young. I mean, it's Connecticut school shooting 521 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: from Yeah, I think it was twenty twelve. Is it 522 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: ten years ago or anything? It is, yeah, Sandy Hook. 523 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: I think it was more than twenty were killed, but 524 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: still it was twenty children and six staff members at 525 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: Sandy Hook. This is the eighteen children. This is the 526 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: worst shooting since then, So the worst school shooting in 527 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: Texas history. His social media is full of photos with guns. Yeah, 528 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: isn't that the way? Now? Okay, I mean again, how 529 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: many times are we going to read the same story 530 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: In the hours after a shooting. He's broadcasting to the 531 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: world that he's insane, and everybody just stumbles along about 532 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: their day. Yeah. It's not clear how much before the 533 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: shooting he was notifying people that are given anybody a 534 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: heads up that he was actually going to do this, 535 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: or I mean, you just post with guns on social media, 536 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: doesn't need to go to kill everybody. No, but I'm 537 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: thinking maybe you should assume they are. Why don't we 538 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: just reverse the whole dynamic. If you're constantly potting photos, 539 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: putting up photos with guns, maybe you ought to be 540 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: taken in the mental hospital for a while. Maybe that's 541 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: a sign. I don't know how many people put up 542 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: guns every day just for the heck of it and 543 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: don't end up in some kind of violent incident. I 544 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: just wonder, kind of I don't come from gun culture, 545 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, I got I got Facebook. I look at 546 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: it every day. I don't see anybody posting guns. That's 547 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: not my world. So maybe down in Texas it's more prevalent. 548 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: But boy, and you know what, too bad. The girl 549 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: didn't not that this made Biden done anything. She called 550 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: immediately the police, of course, assuming the police responded. But 551 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: you got to have that emergency attitude. I think about 552 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: this stuff or or you know, in twenty minutes, we're 553 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: gonna have Joe Biden on, and I bet you he'll 554 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: have a bag full of stale political cliches for the occasion. Yeah, 555 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: I know. Sometimes I imagine the opposite universe where people 556 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: are reporting, you know, see something, say something, and now 557 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: we got thousands of people round it up, and there's 558 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: going to be screams that this is some sort of 559 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: fascist society where everybody's round it up. And maybe you 560 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: sabtained for months years, maybe you say too bad. Hey, 561 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: you want to save these kids. Remember the old phrase 562 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: if you can save just one life. Yeah, you know, 563 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: we could save a couple of dozen at a time 564 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 1: if we started overreacting a little to these whack jobs. 565 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: Maybe be easier just to disarm everybody. Well, you got 566 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: four million guns, so he apparently bought these guns legally 567 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: on his eighteenth birthday. According to State Senator Roland Gutierrez. 568 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: It's now rob Elementary School has six hundred students enrolled. 569 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: It's in Uvaldi, which is the hometown of actor Matthew McConaughey, 570 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: who was rumored, I guess to run for governor at 571 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: one point, sixty miles east of the Mexican border, eighty 572 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: miles west of San Antonio. He had a handgun and 573 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: possibly a rifle when he entered the school. Now there 574 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: is still a report that's hanging out there, and it's 575 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: mostly from the Daily Mail. That pickup truck he crashed 576 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: outside the school. He was involved in a gunfight with 577 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: Border Patrol agents who arrived on the scene, and one 578 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: of the agents was injured but is expected to survive. Now, 579 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's who ultimately killed him when 580 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: he barricaded himself somewhere inside the school, but that may 581 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: clear up what we were talking about when we first 582 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: came on the air. There was some involvement by Border 583 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: Patrol because we couldn't figure out what started all this 584 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,479 Speaker 1: and who this guy was. Don McLaughlin is the Mary 585 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: of Valdi. He told Fox News that shots were fired 586 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: off site and after shooting one person, the gunman ran 587 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: to the school. I guess the one person was his grandmother. Yes, 588 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: it was supposedly alive, but in a critical condition. Because Uvaldi, 589 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not right on the border, but I'm 590 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: looking at a map here, and it is on the 591 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: western side of San Antonio, probably about halfway to the 592 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: Mexican border on the ninety. Then that would be in 593 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: Del Rio. I remember talking about Del Rio. There was 594 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: some sort of migrant situation going on to Del Rio 595 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: a few years ago. You know, I'm looking here and 596 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: all the political hacks had already come out. Chris Murphy 597 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: as a Senator from Connecticut, a Democrat. He goes, I'm 598 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: here on this floor to beg to literally get down 599 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: on my hands and knees and beg my colleagues find 600 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: a path forward. I grabbed that audio. Do you want 601 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: to hear it? Yeah, I want to hear it. Kids 602 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: are living in fear every single time they set foot 603 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: in the classroom because I think they're going to be next. 604 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: What are we doing? Why do you spend all this 605 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: time running for the United States Senate? Why do you 606 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: go through all the hassle of getting this job, of 607 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: putting yourself in a position of authority. If your answer 608 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: is that as this slaughter increases, as our kids run 609 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: for their lives, we do nothing. What are we doing 610 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: bribes from people who want bills passed. That's why you're 611 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: there to solve a problem as existential as this. This 612 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: isn't inevitable. These kids weren't unlucky. This only happens in 613 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: this country and nowhere else, nowhere else. The little kids 614 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: go to school thinking that they might be shot that day. 615 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: Well so he was, by the way, he was the 616 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: congressman from the Sandy Hook area of Connecticut at the 617 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: time of that shooting, he's now a US Senator Chris Murphy. Okay, 618 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: what is what has he done the last ten years? 619 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: Then probably pushed for all sorts of yeah, gun control laws, 620 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: that are control bills. I'm sure people aren't going to 621 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: go for for gun control that they do have a 622 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: constitutional right and you're not going to change that. And secondly, 623 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: look at all the crime that's gone crazy. It's caused 624 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: more people to buy guns, especially here in LA, because 625 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: nobody wants to enforce the law and put violent felons 626 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: away and keep them away. Instead we have gascone letting 627 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: them out by by the hundreds thousands. So I don't know, 628 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: what do you want people to do besides you know what, oh, 629 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: some guy some family buying a gun to protect themselves 630 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: one of gascons, felons, that's not the person showing up 631 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: at the school. What do you do with all that? 632 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: They don't want to talk about the mental illness here, 633 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: the weird sick obsessions, the influence of the internet, the 634 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: negligent parents. So it's just evil. It's tired of hearing 635 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: mental illness. He's are evil people. Okay, well then you 636 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: got it, then then then take away their civil liberties. 637 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: What is the harm of identifying someone as evil and 638 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: putting them away? They're evil, they're not useful to society. 639 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: Take them away as soon as you see some bad signs, 640 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: take him away and do what we Put him in 641 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: a mental institution and lock him forever. I can't do 642 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: it until the well. You're gonna let the lead evil out. 643 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: Either evil is in or evil is locked up. Those 644 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: are the two choices they're going to be. There isn't 645 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: a third choice, is what I'm saying. If you identify evil, 646 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: you have to lock the evil up. Nothing is going 647 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: to magically turn that brain into goodness. One though, there's 648 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: thought evil and action evil. This guy is action evil 649 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: because he shot people. Thought evil. I don't know how 650 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: long you can keep them away. Action evil always comes 651 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: from thought evil, right, but not all thought evil leads 652 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: to action evil. Okay, but what are we losing? You 653 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: should see what people are thinking right now? Okay, but 654 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't we protect the innocent kids the same? You may 655 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: have millions you're gonna have to lock up if you 656 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: go with thought evil. I get to the high to 657 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: the hills. Nobody wants to make the millions. I get it. 658 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to make this decision makes everybody uncomfortable to 659 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: say out loud what we have to do. But that's 660 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: the truth is that's what you have to do. Because 661 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: we've heard this debate for decades now. Nobody's coming up 662 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: with a new idea. There's no new idea. There's nothing 663 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: you can do to stop this, well, absolutely nothing unless 664 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,479 Speaker 1: you take the person who's on the cusp of committing evil, 665 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: grab him and lock him up before we actually show. 666 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: We got to get people that see this crap on 667 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: social media to report him. Nobody does. I mean, look 668 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: what happened in Buffalo. People went into that little group 669 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: fifteen people right listen to his plan nothing thirty minutes 670 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: before the shooting. Did nothing. They route him on. They 671 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: ought to be arrested. They want to do it. Yes, 672 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 1: there you go. Why don't we Why don't we round 673 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: up all the all the eighteen year olds are on 674 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: that on that discord app to witness this. Let's start 675 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: doing that, all right? We got more covered up, John 676 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: and Ken Deborah Mark has the news KFI AM six forty. 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