1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Really really. 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Look at this now tempted. 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: Jesus. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 4: Oh combat, do you want about. 5 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Doing what? 6 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: It's time to bag? H oh? Yeah, hey we're back right. 7 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: Can you feel me? Can you feel what I'm saying 8 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: right now? 9 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 5: No? 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: All right? 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Monday, February third, twenty twenty five Live. Don't 12 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: you go dying on Live and direct from the NYC. 13 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: It's the end of the k Morning Combat, the stamp 14 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: combat sports show they ever friggin created. Welcome on in, 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: let us penetrate your face whole twoy because it is 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: time to bang BC BBC. That BD Brian Campbell right here. 17 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: That's Luke Thomas from the Nation's Capital, and Luke, we've 18 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 2: got a hell of a fight weekend to break down 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 2: on this Monday morning. 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: I gotta say, if I may take command here. 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: Like like like Washington Football, that's right. 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 6: Take command, hashtag raise hail uh hey, can we get 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 6: a hip hop worn in a round of applause. 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: From Brian Campbell, everybody, Hey, yeah, you. 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 6: I gotta say, it's no surprise to me when you 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 6: do well, you know what I mean. It's no surprise 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 6: to me, but for folks who didn't see what there 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 6: was of course we're gonna talk about it. The Benavidez 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 6: and morel PBC pay per view over the weekend, you were. 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: On the call. 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 6: Well, they had you working prelimbs, yes, main card, yes, 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 6: post fight interviews, all. 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: For the same price that. 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 6: We're gonna get that three for one Brian Campbell deal. 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, dude, you fucking killed it. It 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 6: was super smooth the entire time. And I'm just gonna 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 6: say this out loud. First of all, I'm very grateful 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 6: that PBC gave you this opportunity. I don't know what 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 6: the future holds, but I just want to say it's 40 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 6: bullshit that you don't have a more consistent gig like this. 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 6: Thank you, because nobody can listen to how well you 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 6: did on that broadcast and say that there are people 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 6: who get jobs in the industry like this because they're 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 6: more talented. Know the fuck they are not. They're just 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 6: as good, if not better than any of them. And 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 6: you did a fucking great job. 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you very much. 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 6: I mean, you're still a fucking license, yes, I still have. 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 6: It came time on Saturday night to do the job. 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: You did the fucking job. 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: Thank you back in a drug rug like I belong 52 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: on Monday morning. But seriously, it's not about me. But 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: thank you everybody for reaching out. 54 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. 55 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: Highlight moment in my career, no doubt about it. In 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: a great fight card. It wasn't hard to call that. 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: Shout out to Moron All and Abnamarus and the rest 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: of the crew. Thank you very much. We have a 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: fantastic show for you today as I mentioned. And a 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: reminder that Morning Combat brought to you by Draft Kings, 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: right DraftKings. The crown is yours, Thank you very much. 62 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: A little update, as we may have teased a little 63 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: bit this Friday in this studio Luke eleven am Eastern, 64 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: the normal morning combat time. It's gonna be you, Me 65 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: and the man in the damn hat, Chuck Mindenhaul doing 66 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: what having sex? How about pregame preview UFC three twelve 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: edition brought to you by Quervo Cannout fricking wait, Okay, yes, 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: last time we'll do it in the studio. Then we'll 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: do it like at a brothel or I. 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 6: Don't want to make any promises, but we're definite gonna 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 6: have Chuck here. 72 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna do it like we did with when Jed 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Mischue was here. Yes, and listen, I know the three 74 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: twelve card is not the strongest. 75 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: You have seen your little nubs. 76 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Least we'll see this. 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 6: I think if you dig a little bit, there's some 78 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 6: there's some value there. 79 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: A lot of Jake Matthews on it. 80 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 6: You know, a lot of a lot of guys with 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 6: the Australian flag in their bio. 82 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna say it that way. Yes, yes, 83 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: shout out to mister Nocida. 84 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: You can like the show. In fact, if you could 85 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: like this episode, subscribe on YouTube. If you haven't already, 86 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: you can follow us on the socials there, including our 87 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: YouTube channels. And also, please excuse me, I'm sorry, I'm 88 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: very filled with fluids. Follow as well. The third member 89 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: of our team, the main card minute host Bong Island 90 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: Luke no Sita. You can only hear him on Mondays, 91 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: but here he is from the studio Long Island. Luke, 92 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: how the hell are you? 93 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 7: I'm doing good, great job this WEEKENDBC. 94 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: Thank you well. 95 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: I joined your podcast live this weekend and checked it out. 96 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: I enjoyed that much, so hopefully you had some great streams. 97 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: Hopefully you were streaming like a prime r Kelly. You 98 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 99 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 7: We had to, you know, we had to intervene on 100 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 7: Luke's stream let him know he. 101 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: Was they really did. Can I defend myself here publicly? 102 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: Don't hassle the hoff please? 103 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 6: So I was like muted on my stream for like 104 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 6: fucking almost not quite, but maybe like close to ten minutes. 105 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: I blame to Cantila came through before you were there. 106 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 6: She does come stomping through, that is true. Well, I don't, Luke. 107 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 6: What am I supposed to do about this? I I 108 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 6: have a mixing board that is not battery powered. It 109 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 6: is plugged into the PC. Nothing was ever disturbed about it. 110 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 6: It just calnked out in the middle of the broadcast 111 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 6: and I didn't see it until I didn't see the 112 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 6: levels moving, and that's when it was. 113 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: How am I supposed to you know what? I mean? 114 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 6: Like everything was because, for example, my camera has shut 115 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 6: off at various times because I forgot to plug it in. 116 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: Nothing was unplugged. What am I supposed to do about that? Ship? 117 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 8: Bro? 118 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 7: I mean, there's nothing you can technically do about it 119 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 7: except maybe keep an eye on the mixer or see 120 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 7: that the lights right now? I have to do the 121 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 7: other thing, Luke, is keep an eye on your live 122 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 7: chat because everyone was paying money to tell you were 123 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 7: commuted by the ten minutes. 124 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: There are times I've received d ms in the moment 125 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: when you're in, when you're in like a Thursday live chat, 126 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: people like you. Just please tell Luke this one thing 127 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: for me. Please. You know, you know. 128 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to everyone. 129 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 6: But the good news is it was only between the 130 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 6: comine and the main so it didn't actually fuck up 131 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 6: the broadcast that bad. 132 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: But sorry about. 133 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: That problem, No problem at all. Anything else you want 134 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: to talk about, Luke before we get into the meat 135 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: of this show. Maybe the end of the road for 136 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: at Asynia. I mean, what a weekend. We saw everything 137 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: good at home? I was the life done? 138 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty good, pretty good. I took Tuki and the 139 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: wife to a lego exhibit. 140 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 6: There was a lawyer turned artist who just makes amazing 141 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 6: objects out of legos, and it sounds kind of silly, 142 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 6: like how good could it be? Yeah, it's it's way 143 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 6: more impressive than I ever anticipated. They had a life 144 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 6: size recreation of the giant heads from Easter Island. 145 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: Like the ones that the Shamo ones. 146 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Poeton said, yeah, it. 147 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 6: Was like taller than me, and I was like, I 148 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 6: couldn't And it was brilliantly detailed a t Rex skeleton, 149 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 6: Like I just couldn't fucking believe how good it was. 150 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 6: If it comes here, it's a touring exhibit. So if 151 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 6: it comes to your town, seriously, go see it. 152 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: Speaking of t Rex, real quick shout at Clorisa Shields 153 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion on Sunday night and uh, unbelievable, 154 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: three divisions undisputed. Do you see in the cole Make 155 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: or one of those fights the two heavyweights went through 156 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: the ring there out they got counted out outside. 157 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: I did see also that slip counter she used to drop. 158 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: The yeah yeah, big punch lakes. 159 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 6: And the last but not least, how luka doncis going 160 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 6: to the Lakers. I mean, I don't really care that much. 161 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 6: I just can't fucking believe Dallas did that. 162 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: That was one of the biggest sports stories that wasn't 163 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: like arrest or death related in a long time, right, 164 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: you know, like that was like, holy crab, all right, 165 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: that is all that we're gonna get into the meat 166 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: of this show, though, right, bringin now and let's go 167 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: topic number one. We all saw it Saturday afternoon in Riod. 168 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: It was a UFC Fight Night card, but even bigger 169 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,559 Speaker 2: it was the return of Israel out of Sonya, looking 170 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: to put the recent pass behind him against the rising 171 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: nas Ordine Imovov. But in the end a stunning second 172 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: round TKO win for Imovov despite a strong start for Izzy. 173 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: So Luke, we gotta be blunt, we gotta be real, 174 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: we gotta be honest. Four losses in his last five fights, 175 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: three of them by stoppage. Is he's thirty five years 176 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: old and all of these defeats of course, or since 177 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, is it time for one of the 178 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: greatest champions in this sports history to walk away from 179 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: him and may for good? 180 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: I think that it is. Yeah, Wow, I think that 181 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: it is. 182 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: We're not talking about downgrading your match making, We're not 183 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: talking about take a year off. We're saying this could 184 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: be the end right here. 185 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 6: So what I would say to that is a couple 186 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 6: of things. You asked a question. Is now a good 187 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 6: time to close it? 188 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Now? 189 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 6: Is a good time to close it? Whether or not 190 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 6: he will remain something different. Whether or not they agree 191 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 6: is something different. Also, could you imagine a scenario where 192 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 6: to the point you just raised, they downgrade the matchmaking 193 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 6: he pulls some kind of Jim Miller ish scenario. Yes, 194 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 6: of course you don't have to retire in that case. 195 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 6: It's not a claim that he can never win fights again. 196 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 6: I hope people understand that. But I really want folks 197 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 6: to take a look. They note that he's lost four 198 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 6: of his last five, and then three of those via stoppage, 199 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 6: two in a row via stoppage, but I really want 200 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 6: to focus in on the last three. He beats Poeton, 201 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 6: which was it appears to be the high water mark 202 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 6: of his career. 203 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: That's one of the best singular victories in like in 204 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: terms of this, what was at stake? He had just 205 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: been stopped before, but it may have been him pouring 206 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: out the joke. 207 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I think it was him pouring out the jug because 208 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: then he loses to strictly and granted he was somewhat 209 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: compromised for it, but it was pretty thorough. But here's 210 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: the point. I want to make. 211 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 6: You lose a five round decision to Strickland in September 212 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 6: of twenty twenty three, then in August of twenty twenty four, 213 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 6: you get stopped in the fourth round, and then here 214 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 6: against Nessardini Mavo, if you get stopped via strikes in 215 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 6: the second round, one of the tailtale signs that something 216 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 6: is headed very much in the wrong direction. To the 217 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 6: point or saying out loud, maybe I'm not saying intervention 218 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 6: from teammates is needed, but rather a personal sense of 219 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 6: what's actually happening. Inventoring in your circumstances is when you're 220 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 6: an elite fighter and there is no other way to 221 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 6: describe isy an elite fighter, and you're losing consecutive bouts, 222 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 6: that's not necessarily a big deal. Sure, But if you're 223 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 6: thirty five, you've never lost three in a row before, 224 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 6: and each time it is getting quicker, and each time 225 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 6: it is getting worse. You are headed to a place 226 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 6: where you are going to risk not merely losing, but 227 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 6: severe beatings that could be in your way. 228 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: The diminishing returns become dramatic. 229 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: This is this is where this train is headed. 230 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm not saying the next fight, no matter 231 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 6: who it is, he's gonna lose and lose in the 232 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 6: first round. 233 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: It's really not that claim. 234 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 6: But the claim is between you have three fights dating 235 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 6: back to September of twenty twenty three that all speak 236 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 6: to a and inexorable decline and also speak to the 237 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 6: direction this subway train is moving. It is moving to 238 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 6: a place and this is what I want to avoid BC. 239 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 6: It is moving to a place where he is going 240 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 6: to risk getting absolutely walloped in the process, affecting his 241 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 6: quality of life, affecting I mean, less to his legacy, 242 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 6: but really personal damage to himself. That is absolutely unnecessary, 243 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 6: especially since he's now at this point no longer really 244 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 6: in relevant conversations about getting back to a title place 245 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 6: to meaningfully add to the legacy. 246 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: And it's crazy because if he would have won this fight, 247 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you could have literally put him back in 248 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: there against Poton it light heavyweight for the title. And 249 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: now we have the exact opposite conversation. And it is 250 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: because of those three fights you mentioned it was lifeless 251 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: against Strickland. Maybe we wrote that off as how does 252 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 2: he get up for that fight after he got up 253 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: for the Poton one. But to see the last two 254 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: fights DDP. In this one where he looks really good, 255 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: he looks like the guy of old, and then when 256 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: it's overlooked. It's over like that. Remember DDP was like that. 257 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: It went from oh he's on the ground, Oh he's 258 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: tapped out, same thing here, one big shot. I think 259 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: what makes us even worse is this was the training 260 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: camp that I got the feeling from following his prefight 261 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: stuff that there was no stone left unturned. 262 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: They went back to the basics, you. 263 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: Know, got off social media like that kind of stuff, 264 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: that completely sequestered himself. And when all and he came 265 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: in in incredible shape, you saw some variety to his 266 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: striking and switching stances that you're like, Okay, they're trying, 267 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: you know, when you go to that level, and then 268 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: seemingly the first time you take a big strike, which 269 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 2: he did, fight was over. That's a huge sign. But 270 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: I do want to say he was poked in the 271 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: eye about ten seconds before the stoppage, and he made 272 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: the decision, which in hindsight seems to be a bad one, 273 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: to not take time. He wanted to do the warrior 274 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: thing and go no, I'm fine, let's keep fighting, kind 275 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: of like what Poeton did to Jamal Hill, and then 276 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: he finished him. Only it was Izzy that got finished 277 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: right after. It does that play a role in this 278 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 2: at all, or obviously the totality of the run is 279 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: he's on. We have to have these tough conversations right now. 280 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: But do you think that right hand that land did 281 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: had something to do with compromise vision off of coming 282 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: back too quick from an eyebook. 283 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 6: All of these things have some kind of role to play. 284 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 6: I'm less convinced that it explains exactly what happened. And also, 285 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 6: if you're in the middle of a fight and there 286 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 6: is some video of Izzy saying he didn't want to 287 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 6: let the guy take the break because he didn't. 288 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: Want to catch his wind fair enough. 289 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 6: He wants to keep a high pace, and you saw 290 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 6: that from the first round he was coming out aggressive, 291 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: which I thought was a good idea. If you stuck 292 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 6: to that strategy and you elected to make that call 293 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 6: in the middle of the fight, then you accept the 294 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 6: consequences of it. So in a sense, I'm not saying 295 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 6: it's irrelevant, but it's not the defining factor of how 296 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 6: you understand this contest, not to me. To me, this 297 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 6: is a guy BC who again more than one hundred 298 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 6: profights tons of damage already, he's slowing down all natural 299 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 6: things that happened at the stage of a career. But 300 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 6: more to the point, we actually have a bit of 301 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 6: a moment to reflect on the kind of striking that 302 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 6: he has in later subsequent fights in his career. The 303 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: Cannoneer or the second Whitaker, the Vittori fight a lot 304 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 6: of his striking. Again, early on this is not the case, 305 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 6: but in the latter portion of his championship run he 306 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 6: had the kind of striking to essentially diffuse bombs and 307 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 6: manage rounds less to. 308 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Get over on a guy. 309 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 6: And as the fighters get younger, as he gets older, 310 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 6: and they get better because they have better best practices 311 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: and they understand things that the previous generation did not. 312 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 6: You can't get by being older and managing rounds and 313 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 6: then diffusing bombs. You actually have to lay bombs on 314 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 6: these other guys, and that of course declines as you 315 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 6: get older. Again, these are all natural things. It's not 316 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 6: an insult. 317 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: But he didn't. He didn't evolve to a certain degree 318 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: he is. 319 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: The evolution. 320 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: Is nasty in this fight. 321 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: This is just what everyone gets wrong about. Is he is? 322 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 9: He is? 323 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 6: The evolution is he helped raise the level of striking, 324 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 6: not merely in that division, but overall in the sport. 325 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: But that's the problem. 326 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 6: You made every well, I mean again, so I'm not 327 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 6: saying you made everyone better in that like went one 328 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 6: by one, but the sport got better by virtue of 329 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 6: him and his team's participation in the way in which 330 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 6: they focused on certain elements of striking that we're here 331 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 6: too for not really all that incorporated. So the point 332 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 6: I'm trying to make is if everyone is now getting 333 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 6: younger and they already know all of your trade secrets, 334 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 6: and again there's already a shit ton of tape on 335 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 6: the guy, and the best you can hope for is 336 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 6: managing and diffusing. These are not circumstances that are going 337 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 6: to lead to consciousness to yes through twenty five minutes. 338 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: And when you're seeing, like we said, these two big 339 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: fights end as soon as he's in trouble, it's over, 340 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: that's a huge sign. I didn't have any problem with 341 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: the stoppage. I mean, he got lit up by. 342 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 6: I would like to ask a lot of Luke about that. Look, 343 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 6: here's my read on that stoppage a little early, But 344 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 6: I don't have a. 345 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: Problem with it. 346 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 7: I told BC when I first saw it in real time, 347 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 7: I was kind of complaining. I thought it was early, 348 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 7: but on replay, he was definitely out with those first 349 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 7: two shots. It's just the timing in which they chose 350 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 7: to stop it after that seemed a little week is that. 351 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: But that left hand when he was down, that's enough. 352 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: That's enough. So when he hit him with the right 353 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: that was bad. 354 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, the left one was really bad because then he 355 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 6: bellies out, he goes like that, and then you could 356 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 6: see him trying to get to his base a little bit, 357 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 6: and then he's getting bombed on and that's when Goddard 358 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 6: stopped it. But then as soon as Goddard stopped it, 359 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 6: he like had his knees under him. You know, it 360 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 6: was a bit of a weird thing. But I mean, 361 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 6: this is Mma. What do you want me to say? 362 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 10: It is? 363 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: It is? So Look, it was a shocking result. It 364 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: was shocking to see that. I happened to be driving 365 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: to T Mobile Arena, sitting behind Moro and Brian Custer, 366 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: who were watching on a feed that was ten seconds 367 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: say of the mind. So I heard the reaction and 368 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: then I looked down on the phone and kind of 369 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: waited for it to happen. It brought a lot of reactions. 370 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: In fact, it fueled YouTube content for Izzy. I'm surprised 371 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: he did this, but he sat down and rewatched it 372 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: shortly afterwards. And here's the result of his reaction, chopping 373 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: the legs. 374 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: Early on around to you. 375 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: Because he already just wrested from the thing. 376 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 9: Oh say, stray game, stay game. 377 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: Fuck. I mean, that's that's all about spits. I do 378 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: give Easy credit for doing that, but there's not much more. 379 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: There's not much else else you can say right now. 380 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it is what it is of lad and 381 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: that's his reaction. Fuck, you know, like all that, But 382 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: did you see Mighty Mouse. Mighty Mouse seemed to take 383 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: this harder than everyone. 384 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: I did not see it. Let's watch this reaction. 385 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 5: Everybody, kick. 386 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 11: A fuck, get up, get up there. Fuck fuck god. 387 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 7: Damn it. 388 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: Money on you just just love the. 389 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 11: Goddamn it. Fuck god, damn it. 390 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: Man. Oh h did you. 391 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 11: Mass respect for Izzy man to go over there and 392 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 11: shake the hands? Man shake the hand of the man 393 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 11: who just knocked him out. Fuck man, Now I got 394 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 11: a fucking headache. 395 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: Oh Luca, I don't, I don't. 396 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I just think I don't think you did 397 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: the out oft the the sorry the puah wee wave reaction. 398 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: Were you live this? 399 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: I had a very muted readers. 400 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: You're honest here as a fan and you respect Izzy 401 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: and he's he's you've been a champion of what he's accomplished. 402 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: It was hard to watch. 403 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: I yes, but yes and no, like. 404 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 6: Again, I noticed that meaning where I'm like, I'm not 405 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 6: playing with the toys anymore. But it's like, dude, I'm 406 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 6: When we talked on Friday, the best I could say 407 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 6: was I didn't know what was gonna happen. Yes, and 408 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 6: then when you see what actually happens, it confirmed some 409 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 6: of the more worrying suspicions that I had had, which 410 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 6: was he has reached the inexorable decline stage of his 411 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 6: elite career. And the reality is, dude, if you're this 412 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 6: kind of a fighter and you're in this kind of 413 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 6: a stage, the best thing to do is, from what 414 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 6: I've seen over the course of time, it's just to 415 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 6: stop the bleeding. 416 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: And I I. 417 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: And even if even if that means eighteen months from 418 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: now you get the itch again, yeah, that's fine, but 419 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: it is just got sleep. 420 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 6: He comes back in here and have a fun two 421 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 6: zero five five, fine, fine, whatever, but I just want 422 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 6: to point out, like having watched Habib, having watched GSP 423 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 6: cut out before this part happens, there's no way to 424 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 6: stop this other than to just call the whole thing 425 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 6: off because this is where this is where we are now, 426 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 6: We are in the stage where harm is going to 427 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 6: be done to him routinely. 428 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't have great appetite for this. I don't. 429 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 6: We got to see dude, we got to see the 430 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 6: very best of him. Yes, we are no longer there. 431 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 6: In fact, we're pretty far from it. What is the 432 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 6: attachment at this point? Let him return him, don't take. 433 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: Care of don't but like, let him take care of 434 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: his fucking. 435 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: Health, Like I mean, if he was freed, probably Box Jake. 436 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: Let me just say that. 437 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 6: Let me ask you the too this PC, because I 438 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: know we have been, you know, closer to fan experiences 439 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 6: in our life than we are these days. But I 440 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 6: am I gotta tell you, like when I see fans 441 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 6: hold on to a guy and they're just getting beat 442 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 6: and then beat and then beat, and like, oh, this 443 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 6: really depresses me. I've lived that, so I completely understand it. 444 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 6: But I'm definitely now in a place where that's not 445 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 6: the case. 446 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: Anymore. 447 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 6: I'm now in a place where I'm like, I like it. 448 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 6: I like it when they call it off early, like 449 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 6: it when they get out early. It actually makes me 450 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 6: feel much better. And I don't I have who pines 451 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 6: to see legends get whooped. 452 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: The PF for that GFL does. To be fair, you 453 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: did mention GSP. He also GSP was in the crowd 454 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: and even though it was a Frenchman, the adopted Frenchman 455 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: and Imovov getting the win. Here's GSP's reaction and you 456 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: can see it, Luke on his face. It's hard, you know. 457 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: I mean, we have so much respect for Izzy. 458 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 6: You saw DJ he dressed like a blackjack dealer in 459 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 6: nineteen seventy three. 460 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: Hey, he looks like Leezer shoot Larrier right there. I 461 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: love that Shan. 462 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 6: No one has put their collar outside of their jacket, 463 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 6: honestly since nineteen ninety four. 464 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: That clip goes on and it's just a sad face 465 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: from GSP. All Right, we've said a lot about his 466 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: z Twenty two minutes into the show, how about we 467 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: talk about Nas Sardine Imovov four consecutive wins in the 468 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: middleweight division, all against good names, including the Leeds, Brendan 469 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: Allen and now stoppages of Jared Cannoneer and former champion 470 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: out Asania Luke. How big of a win because if 471 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: you would have told me in advance, is he's gonna 472 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: lose and it might be the end of his career. 473 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: I'm not thinking second round tkall off of a two 474 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: punch clean combination. This was shockingly big for a guy 475 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: that doesn't puck trash, you know, speaks a different language, 476 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: doesn't have a high profile, but move off can fight. 477 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: How big of a win is this? 478 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 6: I think we have to be a little bit careful 479 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 6: about assigning huge value to it. It's definitely very good. 480 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 6: It is definitely extremely helpful in terms of what it 481 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 6: does for his stock standing all time place. As we 482 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 6: indicated the run he's on more recently with these four 483 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 6: wins in a row, and they're getting faster and faster, 484 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 6: by the way. To speak of that, we just talked 485 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 6: about how in the case of is he's wins, excuse me, 486 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 6: is he's losses, they're happening quicker and quicker. How about 487 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 6: this BC he decisions Roman deledze Imovov, does he TKO's 488 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 6: Jared Kennoneer in the fourth, he goes to a three 489 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 6: round decision with Brendan Allen and now two five four 490 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 6: three two one, it gets faster and fast and fester 491 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 6: for him as he ascends the latter. This is exactly 492 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 6: what somebody at twenty eight years old who is now 493 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 6: entering their physical prime, if they're gonna be elite and 494 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 6: they want to contend for a title, it has to 495 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 6: look like this. So on that sense and the on 496 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 6: that level, I absolutely give him an enormous amount of credit. 497 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 6: He's legit. He's at worst number four in this division 498 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 6: as far as I can tell, right because it's going 499 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 6: to be DDP, Sean Hamzat and him. 500 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Those are the guys now, it's those four. 501 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: DDP and Sean are going to fight for a second 502 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: time on Saturday. Dana already said Chamaiav's got next, more 503 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: or less, I think he said it publicly. So would 504 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: Imovov need another big win over a top five games. 505 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 6: I absolutely think he needs another top win over another 506 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 6: top guy. And the reason why I say that is 507 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 6: because twofold one, I don't think the loss is fluky. 508 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 6: I don't think that, but this is not easy from 509 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 6: two three years ago, and so he is going to 510 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 6: get caught a lot more easily than he once did. 511 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 6: And the second thing I'm going to say is he 512 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 6: lost the first round. Imovov did that doesn't that's not 513 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 6: like some scathing indictment, but is he did look pretty 514 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 6: good and for a moment there, Imovov looked slightly bewildered. 515 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 6: What I would like to see is a fight against 516 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 6: one more top guy, and again, if it ends up 517 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 6: in thirty seconds, what can you do. But I would 518 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 6: argue engineer matchmaking so that you can maybe trust that 519 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 6: whoever Imovov fights will push him, give you a decent 520 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 6: chance anyway of pushing him into later rounds, so you 521 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 6: can really see what it looks like when he has 522 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 6: to problem solve over the course of time. That's what 523 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 6: I would hope to see is that Robert Whittaker. Could 524 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 6: he get back out in time? 525 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: I don't know that that's an interesting offering. 526 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 6: A name that people brought up as well. And I 527 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 6: would love to get bowling on Luke on this one. 528 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 6: What do you think about now, Serdine Imovov taking on 529 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 6: Kyo Bohalio. 530 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 7: I like that, but that's also like two surging prospects. 531 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 7: I almost feel like they should have done. Sorry, I 532 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 7: feel like they should have done that instead of this 533 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 7: easy fight right now. 534 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: Well, Amovov's currently number five. I don't know if these 535 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: UFC ringers. Okay to carrat. 536 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: Four, Yeah, remember his whole jaw got fucked up. 537 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: Kyo is six, Victoria at seven. And then you go Cannon, 538 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: Aaron Allen who already Callan Allen, and Delitze who he's 539 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: already beaten, and then Paula Costa and Fluffy Ornandez you 540 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't do, you wouldn't do, Bonickel, No, he's well beyond 541 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: this or kyohala. 542 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 7: I think Fluffy's fighting Brendan Allen. I think like next month. 543 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 7: Yeah he if he wins a dark horse, Yeah, I 544 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 7: like that. 545 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: I like that. 546 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: That's it. That's a good point. That would be a 547 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: good matchup if he wins to streaking guys, right. 548 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 6: But somebody like that, somebody Whittaker you would imagine, could 549 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 6: probably a little bit older, but can probably push him. Well, Hollio, 550 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 6: you definitely would imagine can push him, and certainly I 551 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 6: would also argue Fluffy can push him as well. That's 552 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 6: what we need to see. But if he answers that, 553 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 6: you got to give him a title shot. I mean, 554 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 6: that's just that, that's just simply where he is at 555 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 6: this place. So again, twenty eight years old, that's when 556 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 6: the prime starts. 557 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: And that's what he did on Saturday. Pretty impressive. 558 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: It's weird because even though is he was knocked out, 559 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: he was kind of right back up afterwards, and it 560 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: looked like, oh crap, it happened and it's over. It 561 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: wasn't like he was, you know, out for a long 562 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 2: time and we were worried about him. But happens that 563 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: quickly on the sport. 564 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 6: May I make a point it? May I make a 565 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 6: point if I can. I had tweeted over the weekend 566 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 6: that Izzy is inarguably the second best middleweight of all time, 567 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 6: and there's definitely a few reasons why you can say that. 568 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 6: But I would actually like to read a list of 569 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 6: fighters and BC, I would love for you to tell 570 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 6: me what they all have in common. 571 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm only going to read to you fifteen names. 572 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: I guess flat Earth, it'd be a lot more than fifteen. 573 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, Tito Ortiz, John Jones, Daniel Cormier, Izzy Anderson, Silva, 574 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 6: Gsp Kamara, Usman Habib Jose, Aldo, Volk, Dominic, Cruz, DJ 575 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 6: and then on the women's side, Rousey, Nunez and Chevchenko. 576 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: Is there any way to figure out? 577 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 6: Mean, they're all UFC champions, of course, but beyond that, 578 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 6: what do they have in common? 579 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Because what the list I just read you, they're the 580 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: only fifteen in UFC history who have this. 581 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna say win streak, but that doesn't fit 582 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: that perfectly certain level of title defenses. 583 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 6: No, although there probably will be some correlation, it's not 584 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 6: the one that I'm making. The answer is, these are 585 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 6: the only fighters whose championship reign lasted a thousand days 586 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 6: or more. It's the only ones, and there's only really 587 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 6: three of them who went over two thousand. It was 588 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 6: excuse me, four of them that went over two thousand 589 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 6: dj Aldo, but if you have to count his second reign, 590 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 6: so you can skip that one. But DJ, GSP and 591 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 6: Anderson Silvera they're the only ones who went over two. 592 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 6: Now you might be asking who is left off of 593 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 6: that list? Great question. The answer is this, consider some 594 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 6: of these names who are around the nine hundred mark, 595 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 6: Max Holloway, Tyron Woodley, Pat Millitic, Matt Hughes, is over 596 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 6: a thousand if you count both of his reigns, but 597 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 6: he doesn't have a single one. 598 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: That's John Jones is probably over three thousand if. 599 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 6: John Jones, John Jones only is over two if you 600 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 6: count both title ranks, but he's not over three. 601 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: And then Yo Wanna and Jaychick is only at nine hundred. 602 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: Understand the level of what we are talking about out 603 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: here is he is in that club. I had people 604 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: trying to suggest on the timeline that Chris Widman deserves 605 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: as shot as number two. That is only true if 606 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: you've been hitting the head with a fucking hamm. 607 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: Okay, but it's not that. Yeah, we did during the 608 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: pandemic at CBS Sports we did a division by division 609 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: all time ranking and I remember at that point we 610 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: had Wideman number two, and it was a little surprising 611 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: for me. But when he went over the history, this 612 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: absolute peak, that stretch of winds are. 613 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: Very impressive and a very good chance. 614 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: So would you put him at three? 615 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: I'd probably put him at three. 616 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be min A, wouldn't be 617 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: Bousta Monte, it wouldn't be rock holed. He would probably 618 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 6: be He'd be a three. But to me, it's a 619 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 6: something of a distant three. And the reason why is 620 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 6: it's not every title defense that is he has is 621 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 6: beyond reproach. The Uel Romero one was not super authoritative. 622 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 6: But two things that would say. One, here's his three 623 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 6: title defenses for Chris Widman Anderson Silva breaking his leg. 624 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 6: That's not his fault, but it just doesn't mean much. 625 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 6: That's the first thing i'd say. Second of all, it 626 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 6: was the Leota Michida win. That's a pretty good one. 627 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: Damn good win. 628 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: That was okay, But. 629 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 6: That's also Bacheeta who got washed out of two of five, 630 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 6: cut weight to one NY five and only got it off. 631 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Of two wins. True, but no, no, it's a good win. 632 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 6: It's a good win of all the wins he's got 633 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 6: that's in his title defenses, that's the best one. And 634 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 6: then Vitor belfour, fresh off of TRT looking like he 635 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 6: had been a deflated balloon. 636 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: He had absolutely nothing. 637 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 6: This is better than five consecutive title defenses, which by 638 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 6: the way, no other middleweight even has four. And he's 639 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 6: got besides Silva, and he's got five. People want you 640 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 6: to imagine that you can like magic Eye and then 641 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 6: you can squint and you can see a case for Wimen. 642 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: You cannot. You cannot. There has been pervasive, pervasive. 643 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 6: Denial about how good is he has been since he 644 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 6: got to the UFC and what he's done since he's 645 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 6: been here. He's the second best middleweight of all time. 646 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 6: It's not up for debate. I am sorry to be 647 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 6: the one to tell you that, but it is in 648 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 6: fact true. 649 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: All Right, all you haters out there, Luke has spoken. 650 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Take that bitch is I mean, he's in the most 651 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: elite clubs that exist for or title dominant. 652 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: Do you think if is he doesn't fight again in 653 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: the UFC. I mean, it's always going to be hard 654 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: if you still have fights under contract. Look at GSP 655 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: couldn't even get out of his deal. 656 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, in the recent years of trying. 657 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: Some type of idea, Do we ever see him again 658 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: in combat in any form? 659 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 6: My hunch is that is he's not going to retire 660 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 6: off of this, sure, but I do think he realizes 661 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 6: now that the end is probably much closer than he expected, 662 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 6: and he's probably trying to manage whatever time he has left. 663 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: I think he'll fight again. 664 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: I hope if they go to a USC Africa card. 665 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: At some point he's on that card. 666 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean people say UFC Africa, that's a continent. 667 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 6: I mean we're like, no, I'm well aware of that. 668 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 6: Yeah I know, but like, uh, I mean they're all 669 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 6: like radically different parts. 670 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: Like yeah, there's more than one country in Africa. Yeah, 671 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: I know. 672 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 6: But it's like, oh, we're gonna go like we have 673 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 6: a we have a guy from Croatia. Oh, we're gonna 674 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 6: do UFC Europe in Portugal. 675 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, it's still the unconquered territory. 676 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it would be certainly what listen, it would be 677 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 6: great to have them there. I'm simply saying we have 678 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 6: to be a little more focused on ring Francis back for 679 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 6: too Francis. They're not I mean, dude, they will sooner 680 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 6: hold on an event on Mars before they fucking have 681 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 6: him back. But in any case, I do think he'll 682 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 6: fight again. I just don't know what that's all gonna 683 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 6: look like. And I hope for the best. 684 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: Me too, me too. It was tough to see that, 685 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: but big win for Imavov. We'll see where he goes next. 686 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: Let's go to topic number two, and it's your UFC 687 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: riot undercard, in particular that cole main event, it was 688 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: Michael Venampage moving up from welterweight for what he called 689 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: the one off, although it seems like that story might 690 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: have changed after he scores a fairly wide unanimous decision 691 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: over Red Hot Chara Bullet Magametov two thirty to twenty 692 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: seven's one judge giving Charbullet the third round. So, Luke 693 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: Charle Bullet's performance does it say more about this being 694 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: a tough style matchup for him? Are the realities of 695 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: his now now disclosed medical conditions more of the reason. 696 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: But either way, how much did this victory from MVP deflate, 697 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: if not outright pop, the hype of Chari Bullet coming 698 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: into this matchup? 699 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 6: I mean I went into the Petrosian telling everybody on 700 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 6: this show, and you remember me saying this, that I 701 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 6: was not sold on him. Sure, and then against Petrosian 702 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 6: he turns in like one of the most amazing sensational 703 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 6: KOs certainly that division's history. But really in MMA, like 704 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 6: the double spinning backfist, that's crazy, right, that's amazing. 705 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: He's obviously quite good. 706 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 6: I am as always willing to believe that the illness 707 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 6: he is describing is not manufactured and absolutely played. 708 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: We have the ig post if we can, Okay, Luke uh, 709 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: he says, the pirate goes to the harbor. 710 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Okay, the pirate gimmick army tease. There will be gold 711 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: in them Haralds. 712 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: But I'll be back. I knew all the risks coming 713 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: out in such a nightmare state of health and with 714 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: such preparation. I felt that with all this I could win, 715 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: but it didn't work out. That's all thanks to the 716 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: organization for such a chance and everyone involved. I wanted 717 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: to wrap up the spectacle and justify the expectations without 718 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: breaking up the fight. Salute to everyone who is with me. 719 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: Blah blahlah blah. So Luke, I mean, here's the deal. 720 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: It's always going to be a poor style matchup for 721 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: a guy who's a power striker but doesn't have a 722 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: ton of craft and technique. He's not a reckless brawler. 723 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: But we had questions coming in. What medical condition could 724 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: it be talked about? I kind of need to know 725 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: more on that. Is it the one? I think? 726 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: Do you remember blong on? Look? 727 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 6: It sounded to me something like digestive or some kind 728 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 6: of organ related issue. 729 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 7: I'm not sure. 730 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: I joked to BC earlier, was it the eye. 731 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 6: I don't actually, because he said he was worried about 732 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 6: throwing up as a consequence, so I had to be 733 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 6: some kind. 734 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: Of I mean, I did see even though one judge 735 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: gave him around three and even though round three was 736 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: the most, he sort of pressed because this corner, you know, 737 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: it just didn't he. 738 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: Didn't have that upper room level of urgency to turn on. 739 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: He didn't. 740 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: This is what. 741 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: He didn't have that higher gear to really Either that 742 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: or it was just it's hard to throw when you've 743 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: got a guy that's that quick, that unorthodox, that elusive, 744 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: who can dive in. I mean, MVP hit him with 745 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: some creative strikes that you know, was like, I haven't 746 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: seen shit like this. 747 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 6: I just feel like the story is less about Bullet. 748 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 6: To be honest with you, again, I think he probably 749 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 6: was ill. It probably made a a role. I think 750 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 6: that we'll get to the MVP side because actually think 751 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 6: that's the much more interesting side of this conversation. But 752 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 6: as relates to Charlebull, this is one point I've made 753 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 6: previously with guys, and I'm gonna make it again here. 754 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 6: It's okay to have lopsided skills in the UFC. But 755 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 6: if you're gonna do that, then the part that is 756 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 6: lopsided has to be lights out. Yeah, if you're gonna 757 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 6: have Habib level striking, you better have Habib level wrestling. Conversely, 758 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 6: if you're gonna have you know, Anderson silver level striking, right, 759 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 6: you have to have something going on in the wrestling game, 760 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 6: or excuse me, you don't. 761 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: But like you, obviously you have to be. 762 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 6: Anderson silver level good on the striking, and he is 763 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 6: good striking, but he's not He I think benefits from 764 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 6: a certain kind of style more than others, and there 765 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 6: is no B game. He has no ability to shoot 766 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 6: for takedowns, get on top, and then find another way 767 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 6: to win. I have to tell you, there's nothing about 768 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 6: what I see in him that Poorten's championship futures. 769 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: I would agree with you, and that's why I think 770 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: that that was the leadoff topic because of the hype 771 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: that was around him and the idea that he wasn't 772 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 2: close to a finished product. But do you think this 773 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: loss separate from whatever realities of health conditions he mentioned? 774 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: And I give him respect that that's true. Fighters deal 775 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: with a lot of stuff to get themselves into the cage. 776 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: Is this more about his inabilities or is this about 777 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: Michael venam Page moving up in wait in his late 778 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: thirties and putting forth a pretty damn good performance. 779 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 6: I really think this is the MVP is the story here, MVP. 780 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 6: I've seen it so many times where guys come from 781 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 6: another organization and they are the sum total of whatever 782 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 6: that person's sense of that organization's reputation is. 783 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: Oh, Bellator is the B League. 784 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 6: This can only be a B League guy, And then 785 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 6: no one is necessarily saying he's going to go win 786 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 6: a title. I think he was ranked fourteenth or fifteenth 787 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 6: that onein seventy. He'll be ranked around that mark here 788 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 6: for this win. But you know, he came into the UFC, 789 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 6: fought Kevin holland looked better than him, fought MV excuse me, 790 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 6: fought Ian. 791 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: Gary turned into a wrestler. 792 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 6: Now, I thought he beat Ian Garriot's debatable was close, 793 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 6: but I thought he won, and then here he is. 794 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 6: He just had bullet flummixed. The reality is one MVP 795 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 6: was suffering from a sense about Bellatore's upside and what 796 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 6: they could reasonably confer in terms of matriculating talent. People 797 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 6: just assumed because he was belat or he just can't 798 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 6: be that good. And it turns out, at thirty seven, 799 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 6: up at one eighty five, his game is still crafty. 800 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: He is still hard to deal with. He has really. 801 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 6: Found a way to make that game work, even at 802 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 6: this late stage of his career. And charl Bullet may 803 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 6: have been sick, absolutely, but he also just had no answers, 804 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 6: no inkling of a direction to go other than the 805 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 6: leg kicks. But it didn't really do enough in the end, 806 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 6: and it looked to me like MVP had a lot 807 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 6: figured out, and that was really the difference between that. 808 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: Well, here's the crazy part coming in. MVP had explicitly 809 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: said this is a one off. It was a good 810 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: opportunity for him. He took it. You know what he's 811 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: saying now, Luke, I want to get your take on this. 812 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: He's now saying, I think I can go up one 813 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 2: division higher to light heavyweight, and he welcomes a fight 814 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: with YERI Prohatska. So before you say, holy shit, that's 815 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: a crazy idea. He's in his late thirties, he's a welterweight. 816 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 2: His speed advantages in terms of reaction time, quickness, all 817 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 2: the unorthodoxy stuff he does that only that looks even 818 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: more dramatic than the higher he moves up in wait. 819 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: Obviously there's the questions about the physicality. Can he take 820 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: the punching power? Would you sign up for an MVP 821 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: YEARI Prahatska shootout at two o five? I mean, what 822 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: is he saying? This is wild? 823 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 6: Sure, sure he's making the most out of taking on 824 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 6: people that the fans like. Fans like Kevin Holland in 825 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 6: Gary's less a fan favor, but that's an important fight 826 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 6: that needed to be had, and now you're taking on 827 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 6: We took on Shore a bullet to great effect. Urie 828 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 6: also a fan school Jesus from I think of let 829 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 6: Uri also a fan favorite. Damn this fucking thing sor 830 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 6: right all right, here we go. Uri also a fan favorite. 831 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 6: So to me, it's like, dude, he's not gonna win 832 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 6: a title again? He is he gonna beat Anthony Hernandez. 833 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 6: I just I just don't see something like that likely. 834 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 6: But if you can find ways to stay relevant big cards, 835 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 6: big names. 836 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: Remember the Kung Le he went on across Strike Force 837 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: in UFC when Kung Lee just made fun fights against 838 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: other big names, and it was never really about him 839 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 2: being in title contention too much anywhere. I'd like to 840 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: see that from MVP, so I kind of support this 841 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: if he feels like he can pull it off. Do 842 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 2: you think he would give Yeri troubles trying to chase 843 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: him and trying to catch up with the movement. 844 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 6: Yuri's a little less hittable than he once was. He's 845 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 6: something he's working on, but he has been hitable. I 846 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 6: think it again. He's durable, though. I think that'd be 847 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 6: a problem for MVP. Obviously he's gonna be much bigger 848 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 6: than him now. 849 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: The Saint Douglas lima across from me. If you take 850 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 2: a Yeri Prahotska shot out two five. 851 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 1: But that is interesting. 852 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: The other storyline surrounding MVP was no flag on his 853 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: graphic on the walk to the cage, yes, which wasn't 854 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: about any you know, Ukraine Russia war like we've sometimes 855 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: seen the past. Here's MVP talking about that after the fight. 856 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: You were the only fighter today on the tack cart 857 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: that did not have a little flag next to your 858 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: name when you were coming out on the screen. 859 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 12: Why I feel like everyone everyone's always trying to find 860 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 12: their group and it. What it does for me is 861 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 12: it builds more separation where one race human race, and 862 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 12: I live by that though. I don't care where you 863 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 12: come from, what job you do. You could be a king, 864 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 12: you could be a pauper. I will show you the 865 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 12: same respect. I don't care where it's for. 866 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: Me, just constant labels at touched to people I. 867 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: Just don't like Luke. 868 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 2: We heard a lot of labels from Connor McGregor and 869 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: Bryce Mitchell recently. This is actually kind of refreshing. What 870 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: do you think about this? 871 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what to make of anything 872 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: in MM anymore, but it was nice to hear that 873 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: he didn't think Hitler was a good guy to go 874 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: fishing with free Math. 875 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: Okay, there we go with that. 876 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: That's that's the demarcation line pre Math. Look. 877 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: The other big ish at least on paper fight on 878 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 2: this card came in the heavyweight division, as Sergei Pavlovitch 879 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: took on dry Air rosen Strike and despite long Island 880 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 2: Luke trying to talk us into plus money on rosen 881 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: Strike and talking dumbass. 882 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 11: Wow, that was that fight sucked? 883 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 7: Also, I did cash Pavlovich to get a takedown plus 884 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 7: seven hundred. 885 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: Oh shit fight blue hard, hard enough for Tom Aspinall 886 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 2: to hit the I G L I L if we 887 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 2: could see that these heavyweight fights lately absolutely stink. Let's 888 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: get some excitement and stop holding it up. Maybe that's 889 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 2: him also saying, Hey, UFC and John Jones, can we 890 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 2: sign this big ass fight? 891 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: Luke? 892 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 2: What do we say here? Because the argument I had 893 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: on why Rosenstrug was not going to win this fight 894 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: was that it's a we know it's a steep decline 895 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 2: after the elite heavyweights. So let's let's be honest here. 896 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: Who are the elite heavyweights? John Jones, Tom Aspinall. 897 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: Curtis played, Yes, elite adjacent certainly. 898 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: Alexander Volkov Same, am I missing anyone out? Surreal game sorry, 899 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: cereal games, cereal gain. Okay, so that's five. Is either 900 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: the worst of that or I should say that about Volkoff, 901 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: but it's true here either the worst of that or 902 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: the best of that. Next level of crap. 903 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: This one was terrible? 904 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 2: What is this? A Is this about these two fighters 905 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: or is this about the division at large? 906 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: At the post? A little of both? 907 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 6: Dude, This fight sucked so much ass, it's unbelievable. I mean, 908 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 6: Sergai can't okay, Sarahai had trouble finding openings. He had 909 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 6: some who was fading off to that right hand. That 910 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 6: was nice, but Biggie boy was just waiting around because 911 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 6: he couldn't create any opening. 912 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: He was just waiting for Sergey to go. So there 913 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: was just a lot of inactivity. It had single digit 914 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: strikes landed I think in multiple rounds, and then he 915 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: had to go for takedowns or you know, falling on 916 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: top of a guy who fell over and he couldn't 917 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: pass and couldn't get any ground and pound going on 918 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: a guy who was merely holding on to half guard 919 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: for dear life. This was fucking miserable, miserable ass fight. 920 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: This division is cooked. It's so fucking terrible. I think 921 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: Sargai is better than what he showed. 922 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 6: I do believe that, but it it seemed to me, 923 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 6: in fairness to him, if we can say that, he 924 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 6: was just looking for what you like to call survive 925 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 6: in advance right in the tournament's kind of thing. He 926 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 6: was just looking, I think, to get right and he did. 927 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 6: That's nothing, and it could be very valuable for him 928 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 6: down the road. But this fight was butt cheeks, Wow. 929 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: Big butt cheeks, wow, big old but I got a 930 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 2: shout out although it was they continue to put her 931 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 2: as deep on the undercard as they possibly can. Jasmine 932 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: Jazzdavisius at one twenty five takes on former title challenger 933 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 2: at bantamway, Mayra Bueno Silva, who moved back down to 934 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: one twenty five. And even though it's a third straight 935 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: defeat for Silva, and it's certainly a damning turn of 936 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 2: events for somebody that we thought, or at least I thought, 937 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 2: was gonna easily beat Rocky Pennington for that title. Look, 938 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: this is four straight wins for Jasmine at one twenty five. 939 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: She has turned it around. She's added the striking to 940 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 2: her takedown game, like she seems to be putting together. 941 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: How impressed are you? 942 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: Pretty impressed? I mean there's a competition. I think you 943 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: know women's MMA right now is really not super. 944 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: But this division is the best by far women's. 945 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 6: Yes, and I think Jazz Divisius is really she seems 946 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 6: to be headed towards a peak or speaking, she really 947 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 6: has turned a corner and stays ready, stays active, gets 948 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 6: after it she's not without faults, but she's with lots 949 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 6: of pluses. 950 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 2: Well, she's thirty five, so it's good time to get it, 951 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 2: get to it right now. 952 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 6: I think the women tend to age a little bit later, 953 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 6: so I don't think that's as much of a like 954 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 6: male heavyweights kinda kinda. 955 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: So this is the time for her to really get 956 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: stuff on the gas, and she is. And so I 957 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: think for those reasons, it's it's it's good to see 958 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: what she's. 959 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: Doing that moved me, anything else move you? On this 960 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 2: undercard Long Island, Luke was talking about sayied nor Magametov 961 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: spinny ship that he was spamming. 962 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 6: That fight was also not great from what I could 963 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 6: see of it. For as Zion beating Mike Davis. 964 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 7: Mike David wait wait wait wait, that was fight of 965 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 7: the night, sayed nor Magametto of Venetia Solavera. 966 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 6: I missed around, I missed the last round, but it 967 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 6: was fire the night because they just awore donkery. 968 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: They were just donks donkin Well. 969 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 7: I do think frost Zim Mike Davis should have been 970 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 7: fight of the night. Yet both of those fights were great. 971 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: OLIVERA. 972 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 6: Nema metof your mile to be very The ze im 973 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 6: Davis hight was interesting. The only thing that was weird 974 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 6: was Davis ten seconds into the fight, just like pulls guard. 975 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do I think he was hurt? 976 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: There was something weird about that. 977 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 6: I thought so too, like it just didn't make sense. However, 978 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 6: I will say this people like, oh, well, you're. 979 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: Saying XIOM didn't look good. No, no, no, no, no. XOM looked 980 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: really good. 981 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 6: Some of his striking very accurate, great timing, great shot selection. 982 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 6: I think XM is awesome. It was just strange from 983 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 6: Mike Davis on the prelim card BC. You know GAYSI able, Oh, 984 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 6: Terrence Kenny, Terrence McKinny looked pretty good. 985 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 2: He was the fourth straight fight McKinney either finished someone 986 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 2: in the first round or was finished in the first. 987 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah he second round. No, no, not doing it first 988 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: round winner lose. I kind of like that approach. 989 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: But that was a pretty damn NUBS card for the 990 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 2: most part. It'll only get worse at three twelve this Saturday. 991 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 2: Outside of the top two fights. 992 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 6: I keep saying this, I don't think three twelve is 993 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 6: in any way worse. I just don't agree with that long. 994 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: Look, can you put this man? 995 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 7: You need to really dissect both of these. I mean, 996 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 7: come on, Sody is so much better on paper. I'm 997 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 7: not saying three twelve is gonna be bad. The two 998 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 7: title fights are fantastic, there's no denying that. 999 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: You justin Toper versus Talis and to Shera is not 1000 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: my favorite. 1001 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 2: Take the twurf top. 1002 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 6: Jimmy Crut versus is Belatoe is gonna be madness for 1003 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 6: as long as that last. Jake Matthews Pratto is interesting, 1004 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 6: It's not interesting. Jake Jack Jenkins on the premium card 1005 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 6: is interesting. Wang Kong or Wang Tong on the premium card. 1006 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got to bounce back. 1007 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1008 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 6: Alexander Tuporia on the premium card is interesting. Also, you 1009 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 6: add in a few more of these guys. 1010 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: I think it's two fights into. 1011 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 6: Carey Steal on the early prelims, a huge BJJ Phenom 1012 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 6: finally getting some run in the UFC. That is a 1013 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 6: big ass fight. No, you're just wrong. Saudi was not 1014 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 6: a better card. 1015 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: You put a poll in the in the WIA please 1016 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: to get the people, because what they're. 1017 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 6: Gonna do is they're gonna vote on vibes. They don't 1018 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 6: feel like it's listen. 1019 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 2: Hey, vibes won me a dead concerts. 1020 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: So true, it's so true. 1021 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 6: But the point I want to make is people are 1022 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 6: going to say, relative to what they expect from pay 1023 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 6: per view, this is a letdown, which they're right it is. 1024 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 6: But all I'm saying is card for cards Saudi versus 1025 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 6: this one. No, the Saudi card is not better. Sorry, 1026 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 6: you're wrong. 1027 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 2: BKFC, by the way, had a card in Connecticut over 1028 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 2: the weekend. Not only the Brennan Ward former Belatur star 1029 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 2: win his debut Arterboro, Connecticut. How New London, Connecticut, New London. 1030 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're right. 1031 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 2: How about Connecticut's own Parker Porter winning in the UKFC debut? Yeah? 1032 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, he's a big he's a big name. 1033 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, let me bang bro one in the main 1034 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 2: event Julian Land. 1035 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: He's still fighting. 1036 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a main Eventor for belatour right? 1037 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: Wow? 1038 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: No for BKFC, I'm sorry. Yeah, there you go, Luke. 1039 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of gold Belly? 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Thank you very much. 1102 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 2: All Right, it's time to get over to topic number 1103 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 2: three on today's show. I was there, I was on 1104 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 2: the call this weekend. It went down Saturday, Tmobile Arena 1105 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, PBC on Prime pay per View and 1106 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 2: an undefeated light heavyweight summit to produce in theory the 1107 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,760 Speaker 2: next challenger for the undisputed Championship that will be rematched 1108 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 2: February twenty second, when better In Bevall face off. But 1109 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 2: this was about the two Davids Benavidez in Morel and Luke. 1110 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 2: After a red hot build to this fight, so much 1111 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 2: bad blood between them, so much good stuff going on, 1112 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 2: they put on a mini classic a Some people are 1113 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 2: talking about multiple Fight of the Year contenders coming off 1114 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 2: this card on Saturday. But after what we saw from 1115 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: Benavidez scoring a unanimous decision over twelve rounds, what did 1116 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 2: that performance in your eyes say about what could happen 1117 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: next and his chances of winning the undisputed title against 1118 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 2: the winner of better bv. 1119 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: Bevall two. 1120 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 6: In some ways, the performance made me more confident in 1121 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 6: his chances. In other ways, it made me less confident. 1122 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 2: Healthy hands though, unlike the Vosdik debut at light heavyweight, 1123 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 2: you saw you see what you get now from him? 1124 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: Yes, you got just relentless punishment. Body. 1125 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 6: Let's talk about the good part first, because I want 1126 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 6: to tell you about one thing that really kind of 1127 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 6: stood out to me. But let's talk about the good 1128 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 6: first from David Benavitez. First of all, I think he 1129 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 6: landed forty seven point nine percent of his power shots 1130 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 6: according to compy ridiculous, which is in. 1131 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 2: A close fight, in a close back and forth fight 1132 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 2: between elite guys. 1133 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. 1134 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 6: And we'll talk about morell in a minute, because I 1135 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 6: also think he showed fantastic heart. But let's talk about 1136 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 6: the good part of Benavidez. The body work was absolutely tremendous. 1137 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 6: He found so many openings for it. 1138 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: BC. How about the guard peels and then coming around 1139 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: the corner. 1140 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 2: Dude, the variety every fight, Benavitez is adding more offensively 1141 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 2: to the creativity. You're seeing little side arm shots to 1142 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 2: get around the guard. You mentioned, pulling the glove down 1143 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 2: and whacking him, the uppercuts, the combinations, and he does 1144 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 2: that standing right in front of him. You squared it up. 1145 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it's ridiculous. 1146 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 1: He has so many ways of getting you to defend 1147 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: and then builds offense around that that you just can't. 1148 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: You're just gonna get rained on. 1149 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 6: It doesn't matter where you put the umbrella, it just 1150 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 6: finds ways to get inside. And that's really what he 1151 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 6: was so effective at. The jab wasn't his most potent weapon, 1152 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 6: but it was very, very important again to get the 1153 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 6: gloves up and then he could work around the sides 1154 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 6: and do the peels and everything else. So the body 1155 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,919 Speaker 6: work the creativity, the overall work rate. It's just hard 1156 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 6: to keep up with Benavidez because he's just NonStop. 1157 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,919 Speaker 1: He's always in your face. And I want to say 1158 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: this too, BC, I don't want to overstate the case 1159 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: of Benavitez's defense. 1160 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 6: In fact, there was a couple of times he got 1161 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 6: hit with some big shots and got his legs wobbled 1162 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 6: just for a moment. 1163 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 2: Round four, that right hand off the ropes and. 1164 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: Then an eleven. 1165 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 6: Obviously he had his touch the gloves, which is partly 1166 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 6: a trip, but he got hit with some big shots. 1167 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 6: I mean, there's no denying it. I'm not making the 1168 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 6: claim that he's some kind of defensive slick stirt. 1169 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 1: Far from it. However, for a guy who is always throwing. 1170 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 6: And squared up in front of you, his defense given 1171 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 6: those contexts is actually pretty good. 1172 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:57,919 Speaker 1: Dude. 1173 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 2: Can I tell you something. Setting into the fight, according 1174 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 2: to Compybox, he had the third best plus minus in all. 1175 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: Of Box's remarkable. 1176 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 2: We're talking about Shakur Stephenson level that's normally boxing technicians. 1177 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 2: This is a monster. This is a stalking bully who 1178 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 2: fights mean at every turn, which means he's always looking 1179 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,399 Speaker 2: to add that extra power shot in and yet it's 1180 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 2: hard to hit this guy in take. 1181 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: And overtake him. 1182 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 6: And I think to the extent he got hit at 1183 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 6: all in this fight with some of those big shots, 1184 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 6: it's only because Morel showed incredible gumption, which a lot 1185 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 6: of opponents I don't think necessarily what have especially late 1186 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 6: in that fight. 1187 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: But you know his ability to step out. 1188 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 6: At angles now close range on his terms, he's just 1189 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 6: doing a bunch of stuff that and also be seen, 1190 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 6: let's just be honest. 1191 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 1: Part of his defense is his offense. 1192 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 6: No, no, he's just throwing, throwing, throwing, throwing, so the 1193 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 6: guys just can't get going. But he compliments that now 1194 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 6: with better defense along the way. And I have to 1195 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 6: say through all of that, I'm like, dude, if he 1196 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,959 Speaker 6: can just have a high work rate, he can beat 1197 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 6: anybody in that division. 1198 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: That's just the reality. 1199 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 6: And if you want to try and discipline him like 1200 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 6: Morell did, it wasn't enough. 1201 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: It's got a great chin too, He has a phenomenal chin. 1202 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,959 Speaker 6: And by the way, his cardiovascular conditioning I'm not gonna 1203 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 6: call it morob level, but well. 1204 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 2: We used to used to be a potential problem. Remember 1205 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,879 Speaker 2: when he was stripped of the title for the failed 1206 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 2: drug test. Than missing weight, the narrative was this guy 1207 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 2: is doesn't have the discipline to be to be an 1208 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 2: elite fighter. He turned that around on the Caleb Plant win. 1209 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 2: He's only gotten better in those areas because I rewatched 1210 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 2: this fight, and it's like every time Morel had success, 1211 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 2: benavide Is dug into a deeper gear and came back 1212 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 2: even more and more aggressive, more volume, constantly putting on him. 1213 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 2: He's a tsunami. I don't think we've seen someone his size. 1214 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 2: Even if his power hasn't fully carried up to seventy 1215 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 2: five on like a one punch level, right, it's still 1216 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,439 Speaker 2: more about I want to talk accumulation, beating you down. 1217 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 2: He is all over you. It is hard for anybody 1218 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 2: to I'm actually surprised, ultimately, and it's a credit to 1219 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 2: Morel that he went the distance, because the version of 1220 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 2: Benavidez that he fought on Saturday was the prime best 1221 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 2: we've ever seen of him. So for Morel to go 1222 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 2: the distance there and even a couple moments late, it speaks, 1223 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 2: as we said, to how great he may be one day, 1224 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 2: because remember how young, and he's only had twelve pro fights. 1225 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: Now, let me let me add to that if I 1226 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: may b see. Don't you find it really interesting that 1227 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: both in MMA and boxing now you're seeing guys emerge 1228 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: who don't necessarily have at this weight class. We're talking 1229 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: about Benavidez, not sixty eight and below. They don't have 1230 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: lights out power, they don't have lights out finishing ability, 1231 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: but they have this insane capacity for work. Yes, and 1232 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: people just can't deal with it. You have to hurt 1233 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: them to change them in MMA, and it works in boxing. Again, 1234 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 1: there's differences between them, obviously, but I find that very notework. 1235 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 2: He's the least likely guy a couple of years ago 1236 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: that we would think could weaponize cardio the way he does. Obviously, 1237 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 2: he's weaponizing it through the vehicle of a mean, hard hitting, creative, 1238 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 2: offensive force. But you're right there, to some degree, he's 1239 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 2: weaponizing this cardio because it's not just can your backbone 1240 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 2: hold up? Like Demetrius Andred look good for a couple 1241 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 2: of rounds. 1242 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: And then just faded. 1243 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 2: And you know, all we always talk about is, oh, 1244 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 2: benavide is like the great slow starter. You know, takes 1245 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 2: time to adjust, but once you makes that adjustment, it's downhill. 1246 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 2: He was almost downhill in round one, and I asked 1247 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 2: him about after the fight, and his response was he 1248 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 2: it was easier to hit Morel than he thought it 1249 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 2: would be. And I think some of that is due 1250 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 2: to the decision Morell made to actually kind of back 1251 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 2: up his words and trade a Monoi model. Morell didn't 1252 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 2: make this a boring fight by trying to circle away 1253 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 2: and use his legs. He stoodn't fought, but the fact 1254 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 2: that Benavidez started high paced from round one. Dude, when 1255 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 2: he's dialed in like this, you know I had questions 1256 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 2: coming into could he beat Bevall or better bef based 1257 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 2: on what we saw against Vosdik. Dude, when he's healthy, 1258 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 2: he can beat anybody, can be anybody. 1259 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 6: To tell you what concerns I have. You called him 1260 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 6: hard hitting, I am not convinced of that at one 1261 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 6: seventy five. I have real questions about his power from. 1262 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 2: A one punch standpoint. 1263 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 6: Yes, I'll give you he overwhelms you, clearly, I'm not suggesting. 1264 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 6: I mean, look, he just beat a really quality opponent 1265 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 6: in a really quality way. But now we're talking about 1266 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 6: better be even Bevell, very different ballgame. If you can't 1267 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 6: hurt those guys. That's a tough fight to win, just 1268 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 6: a matter of fact. And a guy like better Bev 1269 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 6: is interesting because he's going to meet him head on. 1270 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 6: And a guy like Bival is also interesting because his 1271 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 6: ring craft is the best in the entire day. Yes, 1272 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 6: so the two next fights for him are very, very different, 1273 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 6: but also much more interesting than even this one was already. 1274 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,720 Speaker 6: But I just have to say one, the power problem, 1275 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 6: I think is going to be a real limiting factor 1276 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 6: at the very very top end of this division for him. Second, 1277 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 6: right now, he is I mean flying high with good reason. 1278 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,439 Speaker 6: He looks so fucking good. But this style is going 1279 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 6: to age poorly. Now that's not really relevant for the 1280 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 6: next fight or the one after that, or really even 1281 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 6: for the foreseeable future, but it will age out quickly. 1282 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: It will age out quickly. 1283 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 6: If your whole premise is I'm going to outwork you, 1284 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 6: but not with dominating power. When you begin to decline 1285 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 6: in age, that's going to catch up. 1286 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: Ask racidly. 1287 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 2: It wasn't a topic this week, but when we remember 1288 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 2: we went out last year to those PBC events, we 1289 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 2: talked to Jim Lampley a couple of times we interviewed him. 1290 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,959 Speaker 2: One of those interviews. I remember him telling me, maybe 1291 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,479 Speaker 2: it was the time that we were at that tank 1292 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 2: in Benavide's co feature, that he had talked to Benavidez 1293 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 2: and he thinks down the line that Benavidez could move 1294 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 2: up to heavyweight and has the size to do it. 1295 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 2: To do that, to go up to cruiser and then 1296 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,760 Speaker 2: heavy it's going to have to be more about boxing, 1297 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,919 Speaker 2: and he's probably gonna be able to. I mean, his speed. 1298 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 2: I thought Morel was going to have a distinct speed 1299 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 2: advantage over him, and Benavidez's hand speed was right there 1300 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 2: with him, right. I wonder if he's going, the higher 1301 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 2: he goes, if he's going to still be that bully 1302 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 2: or if it will be more of a mix of boxing. 1303 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to answer that. 1304 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 6: I don't know what to say, but I just feel 1305 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 6: like there is so much enthusiasm about what he turned 1306 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 6: in on Saturday, and with very good reason. But we 1307 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 6: should not we should not be blind to how the 1308 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 6: next set of matchups are both more difficult and directly 1309 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 6: challenged the way in which he wins fights by some 1310 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 6: of the most skilled power punchers and or technicians anywhere 1311 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 6: in boxing, different ballgame. 1312 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,439 Speaker 2: There were a few rounds. I mean, this, this will 1313 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 2: will It feels like this is a Fight of the 1314 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 2: Year contender. I don't know if it ends up being 1315 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 2: in the top three or four. There were a couple sequences. 1316 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 2: Round four obviously was the big one where I mean, 1317 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 2: especially those first four rounds were so tense, so so 1318 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 2: much back, those back and forth exchanges. The atmosphere in 1319 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 2: t Mobile on higher during the main event particularly. We 1320 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 2: talked about it during well, during the Pitple Cruise fight. 1321 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 2: It was on fire nuts people. Cruzier fight was like, 1322 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 2: we're going to get to that. 1323 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was. It was fishing with Hitler premats, 1324 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean it was, it was great. It was unbelievable. 1325 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 2: Can we stop referencing that place? 1326 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: Cud Okay. 1327 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 6: The point I want to make was, did you heard 1328 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 6: it a little bit on the broadcast? Did Morell have 1329 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 6: a noticeable contingent of fans in attendance. There was a 1330 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 6: brief moment early in the fight where you heard kubo yes. 1331 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 2: And then the crowd, the majority of the crowd started 1332 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 2: to boo in response yes yes, which was which was 1333 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 2: kind of funny. I mean, dude, like they didn't sell up, 1334 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,959 Speaker 2: but they had over twelve thousand in there, and those 1335 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 2: were those were Benefita's fans, and they were piple fan. 1336 00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. 1337 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 2: Piplell bring a big crowd wherever he goes he does, 1338 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, they were, they were pro Mexican fans. And 1339 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 2: I mean, look, Benevitez say it like this. I already 1340 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 2: had him number ten pound for pound. This is the fight, though, 1341 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 2: I think everybody's gonna put him in pound for pound. 1342 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 2: Look at the run he's on. Look at the difficulty 1343 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 2: of the opponents. Look at the style difference, going from 1344 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 2: power puncchal Lemieux to Caleb plant as a boxer, to 1345 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 2: the creative in size in South Paul of Andred, who's 1346 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 2: tough to beat and was unbeaten, coming in to Vosdick 1347 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 2: with the Ukrainian background, the former champion at won seventy five. 1348 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 2: Now to David Morel, who we didn't know how great 1349 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 2: he was, right he only had eleven pro fights. We 1350 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 2: can only know at a certain level of competition. But 1351 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 2: Morell fought his ass off and rightfully lost. Dude, the 1352 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 2: run he's on, he's pound for pound. No, he's pound 1353 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 2: for pounds. 1354 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: He's an attraction, dude. 1355 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 6: The ability of David Benavitez is so remarkable that you 1356 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,959 Speaker 6: mentioned like, oh, he's beating all these different body types, 1357 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 6: sizes and now weight classes too. His style is a 1358 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 6: very unique one. It reminds me again for MMA fans, 1359 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 6: it's a little habibi like where it's like, oh, Beep 1360 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 6: has to go against this guy and this guy and 1361 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 6: this guy, but it ends up just being a case 1362 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 6: where they just pave over every hit. 1363 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. They're just gonna lay the cement 1364 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: down and. 1365 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 2: Try to run on him. He'll cut off the rings 1366 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 2: and you know, it. 1367 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: Just has a It just smothers everything in the end. 1368 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: And that's why again, that's why the better even Bill 1369 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 1: vol fights are going to be so interesting. 1370 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 2: We had Benevidez after the fight at the Pressure. We 1371 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 2: have sound of him talking about the power of Morel. 1372 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 2: He gave Morell a lot of respect after which which 1373 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 2: I like to see after the week they had. 1374 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: Here's Benavidez. 1375 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 3: How you doing, David. This is Najic from Cigar Talk. 1376 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 3: Congratulations on your victory tonight. You've bought a bunch of 1377 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 3: elite opponents, you know, throughout your career, between you know, 1378 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 3: kayleb Plan and Andred and of course now Morel. Can 1379 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 3: you talk about where he ranks just as far as difficulty, 1380 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 3: you know, between your past opponents, he is. 1381 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: Harder than everybody I face. He's obviously because one seventy five. 1382 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: He's a good fighter. 1383 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 10: But I think just my experience a loan, I've seen 1384 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 10: so much different styles. 1385 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 8: You know, I've seen Caleb Plants. It means you Andre Bo, 1386 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 8: Anthony Drell, Cools. So I mean, I kind of like 1387 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 8: I'm just getting better and better. 1388 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: But his do is good. 1389 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 8: He fucking brought it until the twelfth round, you know 1390 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 8: what I mean. 1391 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: So he's a good fighter. He's a good fighter. But 1392 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I think, like I said, 1393 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: I just showed. 1394 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 2: So Luke. We said, experience was the major difference between 1395 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 2: them coming in and I think you saw that, like 1396 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 2: I think you saw that in there. There were moments 1397 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 2: that Morell, especially around eleven with that late with that 1398 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 2: hit after the bell, and he was kind of mentally 1399 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 2: rattled from that. Morell did rally and stay in the 1400 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 2: fight during the periods that you thought maybe he was 1401 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 2: gonna get overwhelmed. I was, though largely, largely impressed by 1402 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 2: what Morell did here, even in defeat, to the point 1403 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 2: that I got to say something hot, I think he's 1404 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 2: problems for Canelo morrel. 1405 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 6: Okay, let me back up with stuff, because I think 1406 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 6: that's an interesting thing to say. Aside from resiliency, which 1407 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 6: he had inarguably, what else did you like for the performance? 1408 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 2: Because he didn't do what we thought he might, which 1409 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,439 Speaker 2: was use his foot speed in some of that elusiveness 1410 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 2: to avoid Benevidez. He came right at Benavidez, kind of 1411 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 2: backed up the words that he said, and he actually 1412 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 2: in the first half of the fight was able to 1413 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 2: hurt Benavidez stand close enough. I mean they're operating. That's 1414 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 2: such close difference for two of the guys. It was 1415 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 2: a beautiful fight to watch from ringside, the creativity and 1416 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 2: explosiveness of his shots, the head movement, the baiting Benevidez 1417 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 2: in and encountering him with big shots. Look, he's an 1418 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 2: offensive machine in there. He's a very good fighter. I 1419 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 2: think you know, Canelo has always had issues with people 1420 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 2: with handspeed and foot speed. I think you add in 1421 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 2: that power and I think he's bringing that explosiveness with 1422 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:37,919 Speaker 2: him to seventy five. 1423 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 1: I was impressed, were you not? 1424 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 6: So I'll say this, I was absolutely impressed by him. 1425 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 6: But I'm going to say the following, and I really 1426 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 6: would know. I really I'm curious what you have to 1427 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 6: say about it, which is, if you had never seen 1428 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 6: David Morrell before, you didn't really get. 1429 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: The David Morrell experience. 1430 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 2: Now, no, I think he fought Benavidez's fight to a 1431 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 2: fault to somebody. 1432 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 6: So we're not going to say is on one level 1433 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 6: that's actually a good thing because he never had to 1434 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 6: show this kind of heart before. 1435 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know if he had it. Yes, he's got it. 1436 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: He's got a chint too, he's got a chin. So 1437 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: those are great things that we learned. But we had 1438 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 1: described him, and I do think if you look at 1439 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: the body of work, this is fair. We had described 1440 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: him as a slick boxer puncher. Didn't get a lot 1441 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: of that. 1442 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 2: He didn't commit to that style, and that's the thing. 1443 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 6: You can argue that was a big problem. And I 1444 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 6: think you're asking like That's why I was asking, like, 1445 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 6: what'd you like about it? Because if I wanted to 1446 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 6: show someone David Morell that that's not the fight I. 1447 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Would show them. 1448 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 2: So let's say, and they're not going to do it, 1449 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 2: but let's say they had an immediate rematch. I think 1450 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 2: Morell would box so much more. I think he tried 1451 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 2: to back up everything he said. I think he tried 1452 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 2: to back up everything he said, and he tried to 1453 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 2: beat Morel Mono, I mono, I'm sorry, but tried to 1454 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 2: beat benevite'z heads a head and and not just in 1455 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 2: like a brawl, but like an explosive close range let's 1456 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 2: tit for tat. I think you would see him box more. 1457 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 2: I think you would see a better version of him 1458 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 2: if he mixed a little bit of that in. Now. 1459 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 2: He went with what he played his cards, and he 1460 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 2: played far. So there's an argument it's weird. I thought 1461 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 2: it was. Scoring wise, I had an eight four. One 1462 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 2: of those judges had eleven to one. But you know, 1463 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 2: Dan Rayfield, guy who I respect a lot, had it wide. 1464 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 2: He said, look, it was a competitive, fun close fight, 1465 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 2: but scoring wise, he had it very wide. Did you 1466 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 2: agree with that? 1467 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: I did not have the scoring wide. No. 1468 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 2: Because there's arguments that people are trying to make online 1469 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 2: that Morrell rallied enough in the second half that it 1470 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 2: actually should have been a closer decision. I do kind 1471 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 2: of disagree. I thought eighty four. I thought eight four 1472 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 2: was solid. 1473 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 6: I could go eight four to seven five. I don't 1474 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 6: know if that's considered wide or not seven fives. 1475 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if as close as you can get. 1476 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know if eight. 1477 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 6: Four is considered wide. You know, two to one, I don't. 1478 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 6: I don't know how that goes. But I to me, 1479 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 6: it was not really a mystery who won at the end, 1480 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 6: And I think trying to find rounds for Morel is cope. 1481 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: It's cope. 1482 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. So here's the interesting thing. 1483 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: But you gotta tell me, okay, yes, Morel Canelo. I 1484 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: don't think Canlo's gonna go anywhere new. 1485 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's interesting it's Canelo wasn't there his trainer, 1486 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 2: though Eddie Renoso was in the crowd. And although Eddie 1487 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 2: just signed a big to train a big prospect. I 1488 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 2: think it's from Mexico, who's going to debut on the 1489 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 2: PBC Tank pay per view coming up. That's like a big, 1490 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 2: a big get for Eddie. So I don't know if 1491 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 2: I had more to do with that, or maybe he's scouting. 1492 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 2: But it's interesting we didn't talk a lot about Canelo 1493 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 2: coming in. I didn't even ask Benefitez about Caneal afterst 1494 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 2: because this isn't about Knelo. Canelo's at sixty eight. He 1495 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 2: doesn't want to fight these guys. I think Morel would 1496 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 2: be an issue for him to really do. I thought, 1497 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 2: even though we critiquing some of the parts of Morel's game, 1498 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 2: I thought the poise he showed in a tough fight 1499 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 2: at the highest level not giving up was key. The backbone, 1500 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 2: the all that he can move dynamically, he's with the 1501 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 2: foot and hand speed, and you add in that he's 1502 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 2: a big dude with power and explosiveness. This version of Canal, 1503 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 2: I don't think he wants to fight guys like this. 1504 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 2: I don't think he wants this type of smunk. 1505 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1506 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I do think it would be competitive between 1507 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 6: Morel and Canelo. But I think that people who watch 1508 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 6: this fight, that's what I mean, they don't didn't quite 1509 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 6: get a sense of how slick and deft and clever 1510 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 6: he can be as a puncher. And I think against 1511 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 6: a more stationary Canelo who's he'll walk you down, but 1512 01:04:55,160 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 6: he's a lot more trunk movement based. I'm morel feast. 1513 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 6: All right, that's a strong word. 1514 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 2: But I don't know, no, no, I mean, Benevitez said 1515 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 2: he would not go down to sixty eight ever. Again, 1516 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 2: he said this before the fight. He said, even if 1517 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Cannelo asked him. By the way benefite Is revealed, I 1518 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 2: don't know if I don't know if you saw this 1519 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 2: podcast that I think was last year, he revealed that 1520 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Al Hayman presented Canelo with a guaranteed sixty million dollar 1521 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 2: offer to fight Benavidez, a sixty eight plus getting huge 1522 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 2: pay per view upside, and Benavitez was only going to 1523 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 2: get five million and he was going to only take 1524 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 2: home like three and a half of that after paying 1525 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 2: everybody pre tax. And Benavidez still said yes, and Canelo 1526 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 2: said no. So that's very interesting. But Beneviez is like, 1527 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 2: I'm not going down to sixty eight even if Canelo 1528 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 2: wants to do anymore. If they fought at one seventy 1529 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 2: five tomorrow, Canelo Benavidez. 1530 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 1: What does it look like? 1531 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 2: What happens? Because Canelo did not look bad against bev 1532 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 2: at seventy five, but he got overwhelmed by a. 1533 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't think. 1534 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 6: I don't think Benavidez stops him. I think Canelo's chin 1535 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 6: is legendary. He is crafty. He would find ways to survive. 1536 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 2: But would he can't get him off of him. 1537 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 1: He couldn't get Benavidez off of him. People thinking like 1538 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,959 Speaker 1: Canelo's power would discipline him, and I am very, very 1539 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: suspect about that. I think I think you look at 1540 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: a fight like Saturday, Benavidez doesn't stop him, Canel is 1541 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: going to be really hard to stop. He's gonna beat 1542 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: him up. I think he's gonna beat him up like 1543 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 1: bival You know BiVO did it in a different way. Yeah. 1544 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 6: I remember there's times where Bivoll was like landing and then 1545 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 6: kept landing and. 1546 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 1: They're like, okay, we'll stop now, and then he kept landing. 1547 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 2: Canell will tried that rope it up against Bevon. He's 1548 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 2: just got little. 1549 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 1: I think I think Benavidez would have him up on 1550 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: the ropes. I think you fuck him up. 1551 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 2: Interesting stuff. So here's what's also interesting. So this makes 1552 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 2: now Benavidez the mandatory, like we said to face the 1553 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 2: winner of better ba Bevall two. But Luke, you could 1554 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 2: argue that with everything going on Saudy wise and boxing, 1555 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 2: which is a lot, it's almost they're almost taking overall 1556 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 2: of boxing, and to a certain degree that we talk 1557 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 2: a lot about, Well, what about the North American market, 1558 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 2: what about the US? What about Las Vegas? I mean, 1559 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,959 Speaker 2: Benevide's planting his flag back in Las Vegas this weekend 1560 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 2: and getting twelve granded T mobile is not a small thing. 1561 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 2: I felt like this was a big win for like 1562 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 2: American boxing to some degree. And then Benavita says this 1563 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 2: afterwards about the idea of fighting in Saudi compared to Vegas. 1564 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 10: You know, to be honest with you, that's the one 1565 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 10: thing they talk about, like Turkey Ala sheet and they 1566 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 10: tell you what you ever fight with with him with 1567 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,280 Speaker 10: them over there in Rio. But at the end of 1568 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 10: the day, on my fan base is here in Las Vegas. 1569 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 10: I'm a Las Vegas fighter, you know. 1570 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 1: What I mean. 1571 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 10: I would love to go over there and fight, but 1572 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 10: this is my market right here, and I feel like 1573 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 10: we're doing really well. 1574 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: We just sold out Timo Marina. 1575 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 11: You know, I mean, listen to one of my dream 1576 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 11: come true to you. 1577 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 10: Know what I mean, and I just want to I 1578 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 10: want to take advantage of this market because I've been 1579 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 10: I've worked eleven years to this is my first time 1580 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 10: having a freaking crowd like that, so I just I 1581 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 10: want to stay here. 1582 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 1: Also would say that American Boxing os David Benavidez such 1583 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 1: a fucking set of gratitude. 1584 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 6: Yes, do you know who's saying this? Over the weekend 1585 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 6: he said something something different. Who's the guy that got 1586 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 6: sideways with Turkey for a bit? 1587 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 1: The reporter? Uh, Jake Donovan. Jake Donovan. I mean, I 1588 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: know they patched it, but that and Jake was like, dude, 1589 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 1: American boxing needed tonight back. 1590 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 2: Yes, it did, it did, and it was great to 1591 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 2: see separate from my involvement on there, and you know, 1592 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 2: it was great to see PBC come back and have 1593 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 2: a great night like that. But those are interesting comments. 1594 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 2: Does that in your eyes? Because Benavidez and other interviews 1595 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,439 Speaker 2: this week said, look, I made a lot of money 1596 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 2: the last nine years. But he's also trying to say 1597 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 2: it's not just about the money, like he was willing 1598 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,960 Speaker 2: to take small money against Canelo, very small just to 1599 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 2: get that on his resume because he wants to be great. 1600 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 2: Did his voice at all tell you that he may 1601 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 2: turn down an opportunity to go to Saudium face the winner. 1602 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,680 Speaker 1: I believe that if the money is enough and the 1603 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,440 Speaker 1: opponent is right, that any boxer would sell their services 1604 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,520 Speaker 1: to the Southeast. I think it's important to really. 1605 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 2: Understand, and he has said in the past that he'd 1606 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 2: be willing to work with yes with it. 1607 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,840 Speaker 6: It didn't sound to me like he was precluding the opportunity. 1608 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 6: He was just saying it wasn't super interesting to him 1609 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 6: at the present moment. But you know, let's be clear, 1610 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,640 Speaker 6: it could obviously happen at some point. But what I 1611 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 6: will say is I think that the guys I think 1612 01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 6: maybe I'm making an over generalization here, but the Mexican 1613 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 6: fighters in this country who either from here or second 1614 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 6: generation or Canelo comes here, whatever, who take their Mexican 1615 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 6: boxing fans seriously. Yeah, they they have a bond with 1616 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 6: them that makes them internally say I have to be here, 1617 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,799 Speaker 6: present in front of them. 1618 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 2: And they travel from Mexico to Vegas. 1619 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 6: Travel it's not enough to be like, Okay, I could 1620 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 6: make you know, I'll make something up fifty one hundred 1621 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 6: million dollars fighting in Riod. 1622 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 1: It didn't sound to me like they've been a Vetez 1623 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: was poop pulling the notion of that. 1624 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, but it did sound to me like he took 1625 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 6: the idea that he has a responsibility to American boxing, 1626 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 6: to his Mexican or Latino fans, fans more generally based here, 1627 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 6: and that can that relationship can only be fulfilled from 1628 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 6: his end by competing here. A lot of guys are 1629 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 6: just like, fuck it, I'll just compete wherever. And I 1630 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 6: understand that too. Boxing short get money while you can, 1631 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 6: I get it. But when you've got when you've got 1632 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 6: time on your side, when you've got the sport on 1633 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 6: your side, when you've got the fans on your side, 1634 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 6: it is a different calculation. And honestly, he's not the 1635 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 6: only one making it in a way does it in 1636 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 6: Japan all the fucking time. Yeah, But of course he'll 1637 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,599 Speaker 6: compete here this year as well, so we could see 1638 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 6: Benavidez on the road. But I really can't say it enough. 1639 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 6: Guys like him, Guys like Tank Davis, also Canelo Alvarez 1640 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,600 Speaker 6: an American guy, but obviously competing here, they're doing a 1641 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 6: lot for the market in ways that nobody else is 1642 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,520 Speaker 6: we have to be grateful for that if you're an American. 1643 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,680 Speaker 2: And all, by the way, it wasn't picked up a lot. 1644 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 2: But Benavidez did say last week that he's also not 1645 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,320 Speaker 2: against the idea of moving up to cruiserweight and challenging 1646 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 2: Zerto Ramerez, a Mexican national, for a title there. 1647 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting, which is a power issue I think is 1648 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 1: going to be real. 1649 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 2: Well, Zerto's a blown up, you know, sixty eight to 1650 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 2: seventy five. It's just that Zerto looks the best at cruiserweight, 1651 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 2: a venue division, maybe because he brings that speed with him. 1652 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 2: But so with Benavitez, that's an interesting thought. Obviously as 1653 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 2: a fan, you want him now to face the winner 1654 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 2: of better people. 1655 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,760 Speaker 1: You want it, you know, I no other fun. 1656 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 6: I mean, Canelo is in the rear view for me 1657 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,919 Speaker 6: of the Benavidez experience, and honestly, just say it out loud. 1658 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 6: A Benavidez versus Canelo fight is bigger and might be 1659 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 6: fun in different ways, but a better fight is Benavidez 1660 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 6: vil or Benevitez better be. 1661 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 2: Of I would agree with that, especially when you consider 1662 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 2: Benevidez claims he he has dropped in her vall insparring. 1663 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: That's those are the fights to make. 1664 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 2: Those are the one final thing. Did you did you 1665 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 2: see the pre fight press conference when Morell's advisor h 1666 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 2: Louis to keep a senior, which is interesting because Louis 1667 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 2: Junior is an advisor for Ben Louis. Both they they 1668 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 2: had like crazy words at the press conference before the fight, 1669 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,639 Speaker 2: which was surprising where where where Senior was like you're 1670 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 2: gonna get knocked out, blah blah blah, and he was 1671 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 2: very animated ringside he sat behind us the announcing, but 1672 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 2: they had more at the postfight. Preser watched this. It 1673 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 2: was wild. 1674 01:11:55,080 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: I wish I could. 1675 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 11: I wish both of you. 1676 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. 1677 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 2: So what was interest? They ejected him from that press conference. 1678 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 2: And what was interesting is right before that, Benevitez and 1679 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 2: Morel like we're friendly. They took pictures together. Benevie Is 1680 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 2: actually gave the title belt back to Morrell because you know, 1681 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 2: you take his belt, but then you give it back 1682 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 2: and you get mailed a new one. And they were 1683 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 2: real nice. But then Senior really took umbrage about the 1684 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 2: comments about him taking money out of Morel's check and 1685 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 2: Benfiel is like, I'll slap you right now, but the 1686 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 2: old man said bring it. That was that was kind 1687 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,879 Speaker 2: of wild. You don't see that's often boxing, bro boxing 1688 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,719 Speaker 2: boxing is wild. 1689 01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: All right. 1690 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 2: Let's go to topic number four, which was hey loaded 1691 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 2: undercard and one that ultimately delivered in that Cole main event. 1692 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 2: Even though it was a rematch of the twenty twenty 1693 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 2: one fight of the Year, and even though it didn't 1694 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,719 Speaker 2: necessarily live up to the action expectations, which is probably 1695 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 2: why the crowd booed at times in the second half, 1696 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 2: it lived up to the storyline expectations because boxing had 1697 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 2: effectively counted out former Unified one hundred and twenty two 1698 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,639 Speaker 2: champion and Palm for pound top tenor Stephen Fulton Junior, 1699 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 2: and when he entered this rematch with Figaroa, I mean 1700 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 2: I saw everyone picking Figaroa by late stoppage. In the end, Luke, 1701 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 2: it goes down as a redemptive unanimous decision win as 1702 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,280 Speaker 2: Fulton turned Figaroa, who had twenty six had looked like 1703 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,720 Speaker 2: more of a refined puncher than spamming offensive force. He 1704 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 2: turned him back into that version. He also did crazy 1705 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 2: style things that will get to a second but Luke, 1706 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 2: considering how badly that boxing, Twitter basically said Fulton's washed 1707 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,679 Speaker 2: at thirty one, and reportedly even members of Fulton's inner 1708 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 2: circle pulled out after the Annua loss. How big of 1709 01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 2: a statement did he make in his first fight with 1710 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 2: new trainer Bozyannas to go in there and disarm Figure 1711 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 2: oa of the way. 1712 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 1: That he did blown away? 1713 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 6: I thought after the Castro fight, which was the one 1714 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 6: he took after the inn Way fight where he looked 1715 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 6: like he got dropped. 1716 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 1: He got dropped. 1717 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 6: It was on a prelim card, you thought, okay, in 1718 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 6: a way destroyed this guy. 1719 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 2: And Figure had knocked Castro out in his feather way. 1720 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 6: David right, I mean you just thought, wow, this is 1721 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,160 Speaker 6: this is terrible. This has really gone off the rails. 1722 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 6: And then he shows up ahead of time wearing jeans 1723 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 6: and modified tims, and I'm like, by the way, an 1724 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 6: epic look, if ever there was one. 1725 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 2: We'll get to. Yeah, okay, so here it is right here, 1726 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 2: by the way. 1727 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 1: People think those are real tims. I actually zoomed in 1728 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 1: on it their designer boxing. 1729 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joran Plant reported on it during the show, But dude, 1730 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,560 Speaker 2: he had so he's now going full time with the 1731 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 2: name Scooter. He showed up on a scooter at the 1732 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 2: wig Ins, but he was speaking monotone all week. We 1733 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 2: didn't expect any of. 1734 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,679 Speaker 6: This, and then he came out with the mouthpiece that said, 1735 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 6: fuck you want it? 1736 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 2: Can we see that? 1737 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:53,200 Speaker 4: Long? 1738 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:53,840 Speaker 1: Aw? I go look at this? 1739 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, look at that? Bro he I gotta say. The 1740 01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 6: reason why I found this so interesting was because it 1741 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 6: looked to me like he knew that the world had 1742 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,240 Speaker 6: counted him out, and he refused to give in to 1743 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:10,640 Speaker 6: the narrative. And honestly, people were disappointed in this fight relative. 1744 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 1: To the first one. The first one was a Fighter 1745 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 1: of the Year contender and winter in certain ways. 1746 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 2: The second one was still exciting and the crowd was 1747 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,960 Speaker 2: booing this, but the high. 1748 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 6: It was high paced it and it looked like the 1749 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 6: first one by the time it got to the end, 1750 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 6: with Figaroa just kind of smothering everything. But the reason 1751 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 6: why this fight was not as good as the first 1752 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 6: one is because Fulton made changes to the way he fought. 1753 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 6: Put Figaroa at distance certainly through the first four rounds 1754 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 6: and then pretty continuously in spots through the rest of 1755 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 6: the fight, clinched when he needed to fought well on 1756 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 6: the inside when he needed to. Figaroa seemed to at 1757 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,160 Speaker 6: the end of the fight go show us the thing 1758 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 6: with his mouthpiece again. Look at this photo. This is 1759 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 6: close to the end of the fight. There's mary A 1760 01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,440 Speaker 6: mark on his face and Figuaroa. 1761 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 2: Was all He turned Figurea into a spammer. He wasn't 1762 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 2: sitting down on his punches because he couldn't. 1763 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,679 Speaker 1: Land any He couldn't land anything, dude. This was great 1764 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:02,360 Speaker 1: by Fulton. 1765 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 6: This is why I don't think people were picking Fulton 1766 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,639 Speaker 6: to beat in a way. But he was in pound 1767 01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,360 Speaker 6: for pound discussions heading into the Naa fight and that 1768 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,200 Speaker 6: all collapsed. I'm not saying this brings him back BC, 1769 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 6: but it does bring him back from the place that 1770 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 6: he was, which was being considered a bust and a washout. 1771 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,280 Speaker 6: He is now a champion up a weight class. Holy 1772 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 6: fucking shit. This was big for the kiss. 1773 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 2: From Villas see and I thought he was gonna dunk 1774 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 2: on people more. But he's very humble afterwards, and you 1775 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,639 Speaker 2: see the hard work he put in. The Bozy factor. 1776 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 2: He didn't replace his trainer. He still has his dad 1777 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,920 Speaker 2: in there in the original team, but they added Bozie 1778 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,760 Speaker 2: and you saw the difference, Luke, there was much more 1779 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 2: class countering so stiffly against Figureo, which was a big 1780 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 2: part of the success Fulton had early in rounds the 1781 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,240 Speaker 2: first time. But you know what may have been the 1782 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 2: underreported the difference, Luke Fulton told the sister in the 1783 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 2: fighter meetings, he said his weight cut to one twenty 1784 01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 2: two was so hard in the first figureo A fight 1785 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 2: that he didn't have the energy to fight for all 1786 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,920 Speaker 2: three minutes of each round that he had to quote 1787 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 2: gut gangs. I think he said ghetto it out or 1788 01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 2: gangster it out in terms of just biting down and 1789 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 2: that also I think that fight was an action fight 1790 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,720 Speaker 2: and tricked us. Maybe that's true, although it was also 1791 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 2: obviously a hard cut to twenty two for Figaroa, but 1792 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 2: fully fully formed at twenty six. He not only had 1793 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,360 Speaker 2: the better gas ticket, seemed he was physically moving Figaroa 1794 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 2: around in the clinch too. He was not allowing himself 1795 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 2: to get. 1796 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:17,400 Speaker 1: Over them off constantly. 1797 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 6: Now again that kind of faded the longer the fight wind, 1798 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 6: but he did it long enough, often enough and successfully enough. 1799 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 6: Where Figaroa was Figaroa had no real meaningful adjustments at all, 1800 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,840 Speaker 6: it was only Fulton who had the adjustments, and he 1801 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 6: was the clear winner in my mind when he was 1802 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:34,759 Speaker 6: wearing georts. 1803 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,760 Speaker 1: Wearing fucking George that's insane. Actually, don't I don't even 1804 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,880 Speaker 1: think they were georts. I think they even looked like Geords. 1805 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 1: What do they look like up clothes? 1806 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 2: They looked I mean, he's. 1807 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,120 Speaker 6: Got they're torn at the bottom, but at the top 1808 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 6: it's like a it's like an elastic waistband. 1809 01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, so ultimately they are boxing shorts. They're customized, obviously, 1810 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 2: but they look very downim georts. 1811 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 1: In person. 1812 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 2: It looks like when I was a kid, it was 1813 01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,519 Speaker 2: a total eighties thing. My dad would always get thrown 1814 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,639 Speaker 2: out of water parks or told he had to because 1815 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 2: he never owned a pair of swim trunks. He would 1816 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,880 Speaker 2: just take jeans and cut him off at the at 1817 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 2: the thigh right and they'd be like the pocket hanging out, 1818 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,759 Speaker 2: but they got like those buckles on it that scrape 1819 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 2: against the water slides, you know what I mean. He 1820 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 2: kind of looked like my dad in nineteen eighth year. 1821 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,400 Speaker 2: All he needed was like a cigarettes rolled up in 1822 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 2: his T shirt right there. 1823 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I know that tims are very popular in Philly, 1824 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 6: but I've kind of always associated TIMS with like New 1825 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 6: York City. 1826 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 2: That's fair enough, just be an East Coast thing. 1827 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 1: TIMS are not that big in DC. They're big, but 1828 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 1: they're not that big. 1829 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 2: Well, maybe part of why the crowd was booing because 1830 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,880 Speaker 2: how could they top what we saw in the second 1831 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,599 Speaker 2: fight of the four fight pay per view card, and 1832 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 2: that was Pitbull Cruise looking to bounce back from that 1833 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,920 Speaker 2: loss in the one forty title bout. Dose Valezuela coming 1834 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 2: back in the same division. And I told you guys 1835 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,679 Speaker 2: that this guy was a live dog on Hell. Fiero 1836 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,000 Speaker 2: of Tijuana, Mexico, who I had seen on Ring City 1837 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 2: a few years back, coming on six days notice, get 1838 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 2: dropped twice, get up and knock out former champion Alberto Machado. 1839 01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:57,599 Speaker 1: Luke. 1840 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 2: Thomas Fiero turned in a performance that was worthy of 1841 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,320 Speaker 2: the hype that this fight got, meaning that the WBC 1842 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,799 Speaker 2: created a special commemorative like Mexican All Action Brawl title. 1843 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 2: They had the family of the late Israel Vasquez coming 1844 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 2: and present that belt. It was everyone's talking about twenty 1845 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 2: fifth anniversary of Morales Berrera. Luke, these two came in 1846 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 2: and poured the damn jug out from like the opening 1847 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,080 Speaker 2: bell gave us twelve incredible rounds of action. Cruz wins 1848 01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,559 Speaker 2: a close decision. I did see some narrative out there 1849 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,439 Speaker 2: that Fierro may have exposed Cruise the limitations of his 1850 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,800 Speaker 2: offensive game. Is it that true? Or is this more 1851 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 2: about pit Bull maybe having won forty limitations as opposed 1852 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 2: to maybe thirty five, which is a better. 1853 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:46,160 Speaker 6: Way class I think Pitpull has stylistic limitations, but Fierro 1854 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 6: just looked to me ungodly tough. I mean, there were 1855 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 6: times like Bull's got a piple can crack. Yeah, like 1856 01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 6: Tanks even said. 1857 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 2: There were some early right hands where Fierro was rotten. 1858 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 1: Dude. 1859 01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,400 Speaker 6: There were times fuck the first few rounds throughout all 1860 01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,800 Speaker 6: was it ten or twelve whatever it was? Yeah, maybe 1861 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 6: there were times when Fierro was getting cracked and I 1862 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,040 Speaker 6: was like, surely he's going to stumble here, and he 1863 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,639 Speaker 6: just kept pressing on, and I was like, Okay, this 1864 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,400 Speaker 6: is an unusual level of toughness, Ryo. I thought beating 1865 01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 6: with toughness and skill. Obviously Pitbull got his hand raised here. 1866 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 6: But what I'm trying to point out was I thought 1867 01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 6: Fierro made it very competitive in certain way, but he 1868 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,960 Speaker 6: didn't do it with as much skill. So what I'm 1869 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 6: gonna say is, it's not like I have a huge 1870 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 6: change in opinion on what Pitbull can and can't do. 1871 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 6: It does to me seem some weight class dependent but 1872 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 6: really opponent dependent. But I just thought what Fierro was 1873 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 6: able to do and withstanding it. I'm telling you, I 1874 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,320 Speaker 6: was watching with my wife and I was like, Okay, 1875 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 6: he's gonna fall here, and he just kept going, Oh, 1876 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 6: he's gonna fall here, He's gonna fall here, and he 1877 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 6: just kept going and then putting it on cruise at 1878 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 6: certain points and turning the tide. 1879 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 2: Certainly three and nine are Round of the Year contenders, Yes, 1880 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 2: they were just Round three was mayhem, Yes, yes, yes, 1881 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,160 Speaker 2: So let's show the love you don't I think with 1882 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,080 Speaker 2: the audio, But here's Fierro walking out. So this this 1883 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 2: was a dominant Cruiz Mexican crowd. Obviously Fierro's from Mexico too, 1884 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 2: but they gave him so much love on the way out. 1885 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 1: Luke. 1886 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 2: To be honest, Fierro was considered more of a journeyman 1887 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 2: type coming in, but a plus journeyman because he's got 1888 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 2: balls and he doesn't have a bad record, only two 1889 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,719 Speaker 2: defeats coming in. This is as good of a moral 1890 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,719 Speaker 2: win as you can get. Do you think he should 1891 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 2: kind of be added to the celebrity mixet one with 1892 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 2: the elite names, whether it's in PBC, I'm not sure 1893 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,600 Speaker 2: his promotional status. I know he was briefly signed with 1894 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn for a little bit a few years ago. 1895 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,800 Speaker 2: Do you think he's a Could he do this again 1896 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 2: against these other big players? 1897 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: At one forty? 1898 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,479 Speaker 6: You think I didn't see enough skill to make me 1899 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,720 Speaker 6: believe he could do that, But you know, throw up 1900 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,559 Speaker 6: the bat signal we need a fun fight. 1901 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he is your. 1902 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,760 Speaker 2: Full He was so much bigger than Pipley, had a 1903 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,639 Speaker 2: seven inch reach advantage everyone, which, Okay, will we see 1904 01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:48,120 Speaker 2: this again? 1905 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Ooh, I'd say the chances are greater than fifty percent. Yeah. 1906 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,040 Speaker 2: And is this a legitimate Fight of the Year contender 1907 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 2: in your mind? 1908 01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:58,559 Speaker 1: Yes, I will say. 1909 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,000 Speaker 6: Though watching this fight, you know they were talking about 1910 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 6: Ryan Garcia versus Pitbull, and obviously I have no clue 1911 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 6: what condition Ryan Garcia is in mentally or physically. Yes, 1912 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:11,559 Speaker 6: but if Ryan is halfway sober and halfway himself, I 1913 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:16,040 Speaker 6: think he smokes Pitbull. I think he smokes him reach advantage. 1914 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 6: He's hit able man, super hittable, He's durable and he stop. 1915 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,320 Speaker 6: Please don't mist understand me. But what I'm about Ryan 1916 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,880 Speaker 6: Garcia is like speed and accuracy. Well it's interesting something Ryan, 1917 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,040 Speaker 6: I had Devin any fight, I'm not gonna do it again. 1918 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,439 Speaker 2: Like it's as if the loss to Tank made pit 1919 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,120 Speaker 2: Bull because he took him the distance, because he turned 1920 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,519 Speaker 2: Tank into a boxer. Really, but we know Tank hurt 1921 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 2: his hand in that fight and it really only had 1922 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 2: the use of his right hand. But also it was 1923 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,960 Speaker 2: just took that fight on late notice after they pulled 1924 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,680 Speaker 2: really from it. So if they had a rematch, how 1925 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:47,160 Speaker 2: do you think Pipple versus Uh Tank two would go? 1926 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 6: Same way I went the first time. I think Tank 1927 01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,599 Speaker 6: is underrated as a boxer. I broke down that footage 1928 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 6: for CBS in showtime and that that fight is a 1929 01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:00,400 Speaker 6: big on check Hook's pivoting, circling out, great at work, 1930 01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:01,559 Speaker 6: great ring general ship. 1931 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 1: Pit Bull walks forward, but he was dude in that fight. 1932 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,000 Speaker 6: I forgot like a look at the exact round, but 1933 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,719 Speaker 6: by round eight I believe in a twelve round contest, 1934 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 6: Tank had already figured him out, and pit Bull was 1935 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 6: just kind of in cruise control of the last few 1936 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 6: rounds because he couldn't get ahead. I don't see any 1937 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 6: reason why that would be any different. 1938 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:17,680 Speaker 1: List. 1939 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what a hell of a fight of joy 1940 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,639 Speaker 2: to call shout out to those two gentlemen for bringing it. 1941 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of pressure when they make 1942 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,680 Speaker 2: a commemorative bell and everybody's talking about Barrera Morales and 1943 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,160 Speaker 2: those two go out there and give us that like 1944 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 2: that's as your is your audio good? 1945 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 1: I just lost you in my ear? Whatever? Yeah, Luke, 1946 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what you hit. Yeah, you hit something. 1947 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 2: You turned yourself off again. 1948 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:40,200 Speaker 1: I didn't do nothing. 1949 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,640 Speaker 2: Let's bring it, Ken, Here we go, Here we go, 1950 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 2: We're back. 1951 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,400 Speaker 1: You see what I mean? You see what I mean? 1952 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 1: Fucking what? Am I not touch anything? 1953 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:49,639 Speaker 2: You should just fist fight Kennar. 1954 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:50,719 Speaker 1: Sound like story. 1955 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:52,679 Speaker 2: Let's go topic. 1956 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:53,439 Speaker 1: Number real quick? 1957 01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,760 Speaker 11: Can you explain what happened with the gloves before this fight? 1958 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 1: What was that all? 1959 01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 2: I didn't end up getting the final story, but it 1960 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 2: was during the prelims and is you and they had 1961 01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,760 Speaker 2: the cameras backstage, it looked like whatever gloves pipple was 1962 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 2: planning to use weren't either weren't approved by the commission, 1963 01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 2: or weren't aproved by the opponent. They figured it out, 1964 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,600 Speaker 2: they ultimately got it. I don't know if it was 1965 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 2: a situation like remember Mayweather Madonna Madonna where my Donna 1966 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,960 Speaker 2: wanted to use the whore the puncher's gloves from Mexico, 1967 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,719 Speaker 2: the Rayas gloves, the horse hide gloves, and Floyd uh 1968 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 2: ended up paying them a huge chunk of money not 1969 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,200 Speaker 2: to use those. So I'm not sure the situation in 1970 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 2: the end, but it's a good question. 1971 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:26,599 Speaker 1: Long on Luke. 1972 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 2: I never got a clarification on that. I was only 1973 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:30,559 Speaker 2: a commentator in the end of the day. 1974 01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you clearing it up. Thank you. 1975 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,000 Speaker 6: I will say that they had that main event running 1976 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,559 Speaker 6: by like eleven. 1977 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,679 Speaker 2: Oh, it was cool. It was that was a quick 1978 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 2: block out. 1979 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 1: I'm so happy with the speed of that. 1980 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:40,960 Speaker 6: Dud When they start those pay per views at eight, 1981 01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,000 Speaker 6: you see, we can't start pay per views still ten. 1982 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I don't know about that. 1983 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:45,000 Speaker 11: Dude. 1984 01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,800 Speaker 2: I love that Al Hayman doesn't allow them to do 1985 01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 2: the the UH. 1986 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:48,599 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's his call. 1987 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,560 Speaker 2: I assumed like the the national anthems. Yeah, because that 1988 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 2: could have been I saw people tweet they could have 1989 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 2: been a three national anthem main event and they ultimately, uh, fuck, 1990 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,960 Speaker 2: you're right, ultimately didn't Ye. 1991 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,280 Speaker 1: Great, thank god. Yeah, I don't need to hear it them. 1992 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to topic number five. As mentioned, we 1993 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 2: will be back this Friday, eleven a m. Eastern in 1994 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,880 Speaker 2: this studio with Chuckman and All giving you the full 1995 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 2: pregame preview. 1996 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,520 Speaker 1: Brought to you by QUERFO. 1997 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,160 Speaker 2: But it is UFC three twelve this Saturday in Australia. 1998 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,439 Speaker 2: What city is it in Australia? 1999 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:20,280 Speaker 1: Sydney. In Sydney, Australia, the Kudos Bank Arena, not the home. 2000 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,720 Speaker 2: Of mister Nocita of Melbourne fame. But Luke, it is 2001 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 2: a card. 2002 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I believe it's pronounced Melbourne. 2003 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:28,519 Speaker 2: No, it's pronounced Melbourne. 2004 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 1: I know local. They're like, listen, I know what the 2005 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 1: letters say. Fucking ignore it. Yeah, that's that's how you 2006 01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,519 Speaker 1: pronounce it. 2007 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 7: Now now feels like a good time to bring up 2008 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,240 Speaker 7: the results of the poll. Okay, So we have six 2009 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty plus votes for which card is better? Yeah, 2010 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,000 Speaker 7: sixty one percent are saying UFC Saudi is better than 2011 01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,640 Speaker 7: just just clowns. 2012 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:49,559 Speaker 2: I think they're right. 2013 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,719 Speaker 1: I think they're right. You're both wrong, and you're gonna 2014 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:52,639 Speaker 1: see that you're both wrong. 2015 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, All right, So Luke Thomas, as it goes 2016 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,160 Speaker 2: down this weekend main event, of course, a Middleway title 2017 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:02,960 Speaker 2: rematch between Dricis Dupless and Seawan Strickland. What storyline surrounding 2018 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,679 Speaker 2: UFC three twelve, and obviously we're gonna break this shit 2019 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 2: down intensifyingly on Friday. But from a distance, which one 2020 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 2: has you most interested? 2021 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 1: Can I tell you? There's a million ways to go. 2022 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,720 Speaker 6: As I mentioned, Cody Steele being on the prelims, I 2023 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,519 Speaker 6: think is a big deal. I would say from a 2024 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,640 Speaker 6: storyline standpoint, I'm paying most attention to Tatiana Suarez. That 2025 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 6: seems like a very do or die moment. But can 2026 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 6: I pick something a little bit different? 2027 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,760 Speaker 2: You can pick whatever you want, but we'll put a 2028 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:27,760 Speaker 2: poll out to prove you wrong. 2029 01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:31,639 Speaker 6: Okay, fair, I'm sure, I'm sure you Listen, you guys 2030 01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:32,960 Speaker 6: are all wrong about this card. I don't know what 2031 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 6: to tell you. Okay, there is something interesting about the 2032 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,559 Speaker 6: main event. Now, the first main event, I rewatched it 2033 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,719 Speaker 6: it's not very fun fair to say. 2034 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,600 Speaker 2: High skilling is tense, and it was. 2035 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,679 Speaker 1: My skill tense, but not super thrilling. 2036 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I have called the thriller in the past. 2037 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm probably wrong. 2038 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,760 Speaker 1: Let me rewatch it, but certainly not crap. I'm not 2039 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 1: saying it's crap. 2040 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 2: Ye. 2041 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,040 Speaker 6: In real time, I thought DDP one. Second time I 2042 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 6: thought Shan Strickland one. I watched it again, I definitely 2043 01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 6: thought Sean Strickland one. Okay, it's not about that or 2044 01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,479 Speaker 6: the implications, but Sean Strickland has made an alteration to 2045 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 6: his style that I thought was made bear in the 2046 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 6: first fight. Sean Strickland has decided that he's going to 2047 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 6: do a lot of He does sort of a square 2048 01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:15,160 Speaker 6: Philly shell, picks up the lead leg to counteract leg kicks, 2049 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 6: Perry's kind of leans out of the way, all that stuff. 2050 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,080 Speaker 6: But what really happens is that when DDP blitzes, and 2051 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,840 Speaker 6: this happens not just with DDP, but you saw it 2052 01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 6: in this fight a lot. 2053 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,320 Speaker 1: He would retreat cross. 2054 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,640 Speaker 6: Stepping out of the way, leaning his head all the 2055 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,559 Speaker 6: way back. If you look on the camera here, if 2056 01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 6: my hips are in front and my head is back, 2057 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 6: this is a mechanically not advantageous position from which to 2058 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,160 Speaker 6: throw anything. In fact, he typically does not. Sometimes he 2059 01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,479 Speaker 6: will to get guys off of him, but he doesn't throw. 2060 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,880 Speaker 6: Something happened in the Paulo Costa fight, the one in 2061 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 6: between this one where you go. You saw him issue 2062 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,559 Speaker 6: these retreats. He would stop and then try and throw. 2063 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,840 Speaker 6: He didn't do it all that successfully, but it was 2064 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,000 Speaker 6: clear he was tired of losing five round fights when 2065 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,680 Speaker 6: these wars of attrition where it's kind of hard to 2066 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,960 Speaker 6: tell who's winning, and he's coming up razor close. So 2067 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,200 Speaker 6: they decided, if you're just going to retreat like that, 2068 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 6: you will lose these fights. It's too much. You're giving up. 2069 01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 6: You're forced to reset. You can't throw from this position. 2070 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 6: There's no counter attack. So they're trying to change his style. 2071 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:14,160 Speaker 1: Interesting. 2072 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,920 Speaker 6: They're trying to make him sit down, retreat, some retreat 2073 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,360 Speaker 6: in a certain way that enables you to throw back, 2074 01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,479 Speaker 6: because I think if he goes back to what he 2075 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:23,880 Speaker 6: did the. 2076 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 1: First time coin flip, I don't know how it's going 2077 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:27,360 Speaker 1: to go. 2078 01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 6: They're trying to put more muscle into his defensively oriented style. 2079 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 6: This is the time to make that work and they've 2080 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,840 Speaker 6: bringing in Poeton, and I saw, well. 2081 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:40,439 Speaker 1: Can we play the clip? 2082 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,560 Speaker 2: Because I actually caught up with Eric Nixon, friend of 2083 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:44,880 Speaker 2: the show. 2084 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:46,920 Speaker 6: Friend of the show, Why is Poeton in the corner 2085 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 6: if he doesn't speak English? 2086 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 1: I actually think Nixic has a great answer to this. 2087 01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:52,880 Speaker 5: Did this all come together to get Alex in the 2088 01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,280 Speaker 5: corner for this one? He was going to be out there, 2089 01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,920 Speaker 5: and it was just one of those things where we're 2090 01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,320 Speaker 5: looking at the corner and I knew he's going to 2091 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 5: be out there, and you know, Johnny Eubly couldn't make 2092 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,479 Speaker 5: it out. I was hoping to have him in the corner. 2093 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,920 Speaker 5: Myself and Danny Davis will be there, and it was 2094 01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 5: just a matter of convenience. And these are two guys 2095 01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 5: that really trust one another. You know, Sean went out 2096 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,040 Speaker 5: there to help him get ready for a clear roundtree. 2097 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,600 Speaker 5: And you know this what people don't really understand. And 2098 01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,720 Speaker 5: I see some people thinking it's like a publicity things. 2099 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,559 Speaker 5: It's more about the comfortability in your corner, and not 2100 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,000 Speaker 5: only that, what Alex is going to bring to the 2101 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:29,200 Speaker 5: locker room. And Sean warms up very very hard. Sean 2102 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,320 Speaker 5: basically fights in the back to get his eyes in 2103 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 5: his rhythm and his timing on point. Who better to 2104 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,080 Speaker 5: be back there to help you warm up than Alex 2105 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 5: freaking paid to right, Like, that guy's gonna help So 2106 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,000 Speaker 5: I see, you know, I've seen a couple of comments 2107 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,880 Speaker 5: here and there about he doesn't even speak English. He 2108 01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,400 Speaker 5: was in our corner for the last Dreekas fight. He 2109 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,800 Speaker 5: sat right behind me and he told me everything in 2110 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,280 Speaker 5: my ear. Hey, make sure he teeps more, make sure 2111 01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,400 Speaker 5: he job's more. We speak mma, right, there's enough for 2112 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,080 Speaker 5: him to be able to say it helped to be 2113 01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,960 Speaker 5: a resource for us. And look, if we're going to battle, 2114 01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 5: who better to have in your corner and Alex Pajeda. 2115 01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,080 Speaker 2: So I'll take him in any capacity that we can get. 2116 01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,559 Speaker 5: But there's there's a lot of deeper levels and layers 2117 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,839 Speaker 5: of having in the corner than just him just standing 2118 01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 5: there looking scary, you know. 2119 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,000 Speaker 1: So he's gonna help us a ton. 2120 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,679 Speaker 6: Okay, here's why this is important and relevant. I mentioned 2121 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 6: they're trying to reform Strickland's style, and you're bringing in 2122 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,960 Speaker 6: now a guy like Poeton, who I think they're you're 2123 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,479 Speaker 6: getting him ready in the back, all of the prep, 2124 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,599 Speaker 6: all of the some advice he might get between rounds. 2125 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 6: But the point I want to make was remember what 2126 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,600 Speaker 6: Drick has said about how he beat Sean Strickland, and 2127 01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 6: his answer was volume. I just kept throwing. I just 2128 01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,479 Speaker 6: kept going. They're going to try and meet fire with fire. 2129 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,880 Speaker 6: I'm not declaring to you. I'm not declaring to you 2130 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,439 Speaker 6: that the fight is going to be a barn burner. 2131 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 6: What I am saying is it's going to be a 2132 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 6: test case about whether they can fight fire with fire 2133 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,000 Speaker 6: by trying to turbo charge some of the offense that 2134 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:53,360 Speaker 6: has been missing from his style. To me is why 2135 01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,160 Speaker 6: when people were shitting on this main event, I'm like, 2136 01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,800 Speaker 6: I can't. I cannot declare to you what's going to happen. 2137 01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,240 Speaker 6: But the pessimism around it, to me is. 2138 01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:00,639 Speaker 1: A little stroke. 2139 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 2: I agree with that. And and like I said, I 2140 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,559 Speaker 2: thought the first fight was interesting to watch. I want 2141 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,479 Speaker 2: to see the second one. My my biggest storyline was 2142 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 2: going to be Poeton, but my question was gonna be 2143 01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,639 Speaker 2: more ceremonial. That is an interesting breakdown of the ways 2144 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,640 Speaker 2: that it actually could affect. At first, I was like, 2145 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,559 Speaker 2: are they trying to set up DDP moving up to 2146 01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 2: two of five so they've has nothing to do with that, right, 2147 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,639 Speaker 2: It's just sort of like Strickling gets on with with 2148 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,080 Speaker 2: with Chrauma. They're they're good, which is a weird, weird partnership. 2149 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:24,160 Speaker 1: But it works. 2150 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,840 Speaker 2: Right, This is good. This is gonna be interesting come 2151 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:28,640 Speaker 2: come Saturday. And I'm really excited about that. 2152 01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 1: What they had Pereira showing video of him cheering for 2153 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 1: is he in this fight? Did you see that? 2154 01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,360 Speaker 2: Yes, they've become friendly and had like they shared that, 2155 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:36,479 Speaker 2: they've shared dms and. 2156 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,439 Speaker 6: I think so and like, you know he dude, these 2157 01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,639 Speaker 6: guys are like, once the battle's done, man, there's no 2158 01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:41,160 Speaker 6: reason to. 2159 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,560 Speaker 2: EERI and Jamal thrown down shots in the exactly I 2160 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,320 Speaker 2: actually prefer to see. We didn't see it under the 2161 01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:48,960 Speaker 2: cap there. But Nick Sick's hair has made a comeback, right. 2162 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,280 Speaker 1: You know what? My man took that flight to Istanbul? Dude? 2163 01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,160 Speaker 1: What about Dan? What about Danny. 2164 01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,600 Speaker 2: Rupe getting on that? Is he gonna be better about this? 2165 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,719 Speaker 2: Because I love Day He's my favorite manager in the game, 2166 01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:57,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 2167 01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,760 Speaker 1: Dude, he texted me when he sees this ship, what 2168 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:01,160 Speaker 1: bro will keep doing this? 2169 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 2: He's a great wrestler at ou d one baby, Okay, 2170 01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:05,000 Speaker 2: big time do you listen. 2171 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 1: He's not the tallest man I've ever No, but. 2172 01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:07,919 Speaker 2: He's he's connected. 2173 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's connected us. 2174 01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:10,639 Speaker 2: Is he chef cuts guy? 2175 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:16,320 Speaker 1: He a chef cuts guy? Will Harman DDP, Yes, yes, yes, 2176 01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:16,880 Speaker 1: there we go. 2177 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 2: All right, those are our five topic and let's know, see, 2178 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 2: do you got anything to say about three twelve or 2179 01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:22,120 Speaker 2: we'll save it for Friday. 2180 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:22,960 Speaker 1: We'll hit it on Friday. 2181 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you very much. That's the best thing. 2182 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,599 Speaker 2: That's why we have here. Those are our five topics. 2183 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for playing. Now we move on to our 2184 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,720 Speaker 2: first fan related segment of the week, and it is 2185 01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,880 Speaker 2: the call that we put out every Sunday night on 2186 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,639 Speaker 2: social media at Morning Combat And obviously you can see 2187 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,760 Speaker 2: our email address morning combat at gmail dot com, which 2188 01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,400 Speaker 2: is reserved for the Friday elements. You won't see him 2189 01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:43,840 Speaker 2: this week, but fan subs. 2190 01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:45,479 Speaker 1: What's the other one? Dead wrong? 2191 01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:49,360 Speaker 2: This one, though, is about you having questions that need answers. 2192 01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:57,280 Speaker 2: This one's called DMS from dogs. That's just so like 2193 01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,559 Speaker 2: gross and offensive. That's yeah, I mean, that's the worst 2194 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,479 Speaker 2: thing of ever. Okay, what do we got here. Let's 2195 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,040 Speaker 2: hit it. Let's hit it, and let's hit it hard. 2196 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,160 Speaker 2: This is from Flannels and JITs Luke, which you know 2197 01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,680 Speaker 2: sounds like a Christmas vacation from high school, you know, 2198 01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,200 Speaker 2: watching Cinemax the whole time? Right, What are the top 2199 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,360 Speaker 2: three fights to make for Izzy after this defeat? 2200 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,360 Speaker 6: I don't There's nothing I wish to see my my 2201 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:17,960 Speaker 6: dream and I mean this sincerely, dude. 2202 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,280 Speaker 1: You saw the best of them. I have no desire 2203 01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:21,680 Speaker 1: to see him clobbered. 2204 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,120 Speaker 2: Trilogy with his buddy Whittaker. 2205 01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,439 Speaker 1: Nothing, not, No, I don't want to see any of it. Dude. 2206 01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:29,040 Speaker 6: I don't pine for watching aging legends perform in the 2207 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,719 Speaker 6: ageist part of their career. 2208 01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand. 2209 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,960 Speaker 2: Does this extend to the adult film industry too. 2210 01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:40,360 Speaker 1: Some examples that I can think of might get an exception, 2211 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:41,120 Speaker 1: but but. 2212 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean fucking fighting, and it's it's all the same. 2213 01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:44,720 Speaker 6: It's all the same. Really, But I mean serious, like, 2214 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,120 Speaker 6: I just don't. I'm not even thinking about top three. 2215 01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,439 Speaker 6: I don't think about anything. I recognize that there might 2216 01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,880 Speaker 6: be some more on the way, but this. 2217 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,799 Speaker 2: Is the part of the show where we stop being serious. 2218 01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,960 Speaker 6: Well, I'm just I mean like, I just it seems 2219 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,120 Speaker 6: again I understand the fame impulse to not let aging 2220 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,280 Speaker 6: fighters who you had a strong attachment to go. I 2221 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,920 Speaker 6: get it, it's totally normal, but at some point you 2222 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,439 Speaker 6: have to reckon with the fact that you get to 2223 01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,559 Speaker 6: a place due the fight game is not a fucking joke. 2224 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,920 Speaker 2: Okay, well what about what about this? 2225 01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:14,519 Speaker 1: It's over? 2226 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:17,840 Speaker 2: What about this? Is he versus m VP? 2227 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,320 Speaker 7: No, I don't have it any that's not long. Look 2228 01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:22,639 Speaker 7: a lot of people were saying that in my life chat. 2229 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,599 Speaker 7: They're like super friendly, like really good. I don't think 2230 01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 7: they'd fight each other, but I will say, uh, guesstl rematch. 2231 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,320 Speaker 7: Come on, that's always on the tape. 2232 01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,040 Speaker 2: Come on, come on one more? 2233 01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:33,759 Speaker 11: And what about char Bullet Chara Bullet? 2234 01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,360 Speaker 1: Is he called him out to fight before? That's an 2235 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:35,960 Speaker 1: interesting thing. 2236 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:40,240 Speaker 6: First of all, R Steve, Steve, just please turn in 2237 01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:41,519 Speaker 6: your Excel spreadsheet reports. 2238 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:42,599 Speaker 1: Please? What the fuck are you doing? 2239 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,679 Speaker 6: See, no one has ever been in real life pirates 2240 01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,439 Speaker 6: are dangerous and shit, but like, who has ever been 2241 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,960 Speaker 6: intimidated by a pirate gimmick ever in your life? 2242 01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 1: Like it's the least. 2243 01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,360 Speaker 6: Intimidating thing ever, Like the closest you can get to 2244 01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:02,560 Speaker 6: it is, like I don't know, Like it's who is 2245 01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,719 Speaker 6: intimidated by fucking pirate ship. He's wearing a rag like 2246 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:07,400 Speaker 6: like an old. 2247 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 1: Washwoman somewhere in the middle of nowhere, just cleaning clothes 2248 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,720 Speaker 1: on a fucking clothesline and ship like. It's just it's 2249 01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:14,800 Speaker 1: the lamest fucking you know. 2250 01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 2: He should walk out to that creed song with eye 2251 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:18,920 Speaker 2: wide old. 2252 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:22,639 Speaker 1: Sorry that was that was for start. 2253 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,600 Speaker 2: Let's go to the next one. Let's go to the 2254 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:28,960 Speaker 2: next one, please from Fayhee. Liam Luke's favorite. 2255 01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:29,839 Speaker 1: First name is definitely not American. 2256 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,960 Speaker 2: Who is seen as the better striker in all of 2257 01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,400 Speaker 2: m m A. Is he or Alex both have a 2258 01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,679 Speaker 2: win over each other. Alex is a two weight champion, 2259 01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:38,760 Speaker 2: is he has more title defenses? So they want to 2260 01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:40,200 Speaker 2: know who's the better pure MMA. 2261 01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:40,800 Speaker 1: Striker of the two. 2262 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,200 Speaker 2: It's got to be easy, right now. 2263 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:47,920 Speaker 6: Well, that's complicated because certainly, well, let's be clear, Alex 2264 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:49,400 Speaker 6: did way more in kickboxing. 2265 01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,479 Speaker 1: It was it was a double champ because he was 2266 01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:51,800 Speaker 1: never a. 2267 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,000 Speaker 6: Champ and in like the highest level. He was good 2268 01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,960 Speaker 6: at the highest level, but he was never great and 2269 01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,800 Speaker 6: and Poeto was great. So there's one big difference there. 2270 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,080 Speaker 1: In mm A that's tough. 2271 01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,360 Speaker 2: Is he has despite getting knocked out in the first fight, 2272 01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:11,240 Speaker 2: has like dominated more of the action against him, but 2273 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:12,000 Speaker 2: he picked it up. 2274 01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:13,680 Speaker 6: I mean it was there was takedowns in that fight too. 2275 01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,040 Speaker 6: I mean, certainly you can say this poet. The difference 2276 01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,439 Speaker 6: we talked about where is he is managing guys and 2277 01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,720 Speaker 6: diffusing bombs. That's not what Poton does. Poton just goes 2278 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,200 Speaker 6: and just fucking yeah, you know, lays it down. He 2279 01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,880 Speaker 6: lowers the boom on. Yeah, he lowers the boom on you. 2280 01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,080 Speaker 6: And that makes it a very different proposition. I will 2281 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,880 Speaker 6: say that is he has seemingly more tools. I do 2282 01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,920 Speaker 6: think that is true. He uses a lot more to 2283 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,479 Speaker 6: make his product work. But there's a certain like brutal 2284 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,679 Speaker 6: simplicity to what Poton does that is fucking magic. 2285 01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,080 Speaker 2: Is it crazy that the two biggest catchphrases in MMA 2286 01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:47,000 Speaker 2: begin with the letter. 2287 01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,559 Speaker 1: H shama and cheweewies. 2288 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:56,400 Speaker 2: I forgot about next one? Please long island, thank you 2289 01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:00,960 Speaker 2: from at you don't know Tyler. Assumingello beats Bud and 2290 01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:04,559 Speaker 2: collects the loan belt from William's skull, is the likelihood 2291 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,880 Speaker 2: that Canelo goes up to face the winner of Benavita's 2292 01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,640 Speaker 2: bed give up undisputed versus undisputed. I don't think he 2293 01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,880 Speaker 2: wants it, But is there a scenario where Canelo goes, 2294 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,640 Speaker 2: all right, I've done my money gets yeah, and now 2295 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,000 Speaker 2: I want one more huge one that will. 2296 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,839 Speaker 1: Bring the cash out with Turkey. 2297 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,040 Speaker 2: So you think Bud is the cash out? 2298 01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,599 Speaker 1: Then no, he's saying. 2299 01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:26,960 Speaker 6: He's saying in this the scenario that he positive was 2300 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,599 Speaker 6: what happens if Bud that like, like, so he beats Bud, right, 2301 01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,120 Speaker 6: that's the scenario. So now we're talking in a post 2302 01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,839 Speaker 6: Bud world. I think what he's ready to be done. 2303 01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,639 Speaker 6: He might go and say I'll just give one more 2304 01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,160 Speaker 6: go at Bivol and if I lose, I'm done, have 2305 01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:41,160 Speaker 6: a huge check. 2306 01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,599 Speaker 1: But like, dude, I don't know what delusional. 2307 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,280 Speaker 6: World people are living in where people think Canelo is 2308 01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,720 Speaker 6: hunting down tough fights. He's been doing the opposite for 2309 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,799 Speaker 6: literally years at this but he's such. 2310 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,320 Speaker 2: A the rest of his career has been badass, so 2311 01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 2: it's so hard to just act like this is just 2312 01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:00,000 Speaker 2: who he's be calm. I'm like, is he waiting Benavita's out? 2313 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:01,120 Speaker 2: In some levels? 2314 01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:05,160 Speaker 6: Something absolutely not who he was what he did up 2315 01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,280 Speaker 6: to twenty twenty. When did he beat Kail Plant twenty 2316 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,920 Speaker 6: twenty one. Yeah, so, like up to that point, he 2317 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,760 Speaker 6: was a fucking terminator. But since that point, since the 2318 01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,360 Speaker 6: Bevil loss anyway, it's been the exact option. 2319 01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he did want to get bevol second time 2320 01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,400 Speaker 2: Bevall seventy five and he couldn't, So I mean, I'll 2321 01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,479 Speaker 2: give him the credit for wanting it. But there's like 2322 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,080 Speaker 2: whispers that he might fight Jake Paul this year. There's 2323 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,120 Speaker 2: like whispers out there. I think it's I really hope. 2324 01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if they say that. I just really 2325 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,360 Speaker 2: hope not. People, Please, can we just stop with this bs? Okay, 2326 01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 2: let's go to the next question from the folks, from 2327 01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,920 Speaker 2: the people here from oh look, from Hawaii's finest, right, 2328 01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,439 Speaker 2: Telvin keep Appah, Yeah, take that, dazz right. 2329 01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:45,400 Speaker 11: Who do you. 2330 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,360 Speaker 2: Guys have winning the Super Bowl? The Eagles? 2331 01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,800 Speaker 6: I mean, or this is truly a this is the 2332 01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:55,000 Speaker 6: Sophie's choice really of Super Bowls. It's like the Kansas 2333 01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 6: City Chiefs, who basically everyone outside of Kansas City is 2334 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,519 Speaker 6: fucking sick of, versus the worst fan base in American 2335 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,960 Speaker 6: pro sports in the Philadelphia Eagles, who, by the way, 2336 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,040 Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw all the videos of 2337 01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:07,679 Speaker 6: like you know, the Commanders got whooped when they played 2338 01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,559 Speaker 6: it at the length and they're all leaving in all 2339 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,120 Speaker 6: the Philly fans are just fucking harassing and quite libally 2340 01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:13,240 Speaker 6: physically attacking. 2341 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:14,160 Speaker 1: Those Those are Sean Brady's people. 2342 01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,160 Speaker 6: I like Sean Brady a lot, but you know, I 2343 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,280 Speaker 6: don't think Sean would do that. But I agree Sean 2344 01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:20,639 Speaker 6: is associated with them, and you know they are dirt bags. 2345 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:23,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you're right. 2346 01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 6: I have a rule that if my team loses, and 2347 01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,680 Speaker 6: they lose thoroughly, I actually cheer for the team that 2348 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,160 Speaker 6: beat them because they won fair and square. 2349 01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:31,599 Speaker 1: Philly won fair and square. 2350 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,000 Speaker 2: Philly does have nicer service workers than DC. 2351 01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 1: How do you know that's true. 2352 01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:38,080 Speaker 2: I've been to Philly. 2353 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:39,160 Speaker 1: I've been to Philly too. 2354 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you can get stabbed in Philly pretty quickly, 2355 01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,360 Speaker 2: but they'll they'll sell your jokes at the Register early story, 2356 01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 2357 01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna cheer for Philly. And it's again, 2358 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,640 Speaker 6: it's Sophie's choice. The Nazis are asking you which kid 2359 01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:51,760 Speaker 6: you want to give up. I don't know what there 2360 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:53,880 Speaker 6: was a right answer to that one, but I don't. 2361 01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:57,479 Speaker 1: I don't really care. Be fair, I'll watch it beat 2362 01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:58,240 Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl. 2363 01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:00,960 Speaker 7: I don't really care either. But you're about Philly fans 2364 01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:02,439 Speaker 7: being insufferable, so I'll go Chiefs. 2365 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,840 Speaker 6: Dude, who are these I saw these Commanders fans being 2366 01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,000 Speaker 6: like no, I got harassed at at at the link, 2367 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,720 Speaker 6: and I'm like, why the fuck would you go to 2368 01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,880 Speaker 6: Philadelphia head to toe in whatever team's gear? 2369 01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:16,120 Speaker 1: You saw? That said? You see the guy who. 2370 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 6: Lost his job, who attacked the girl with the Green 2371 01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,320 Speaker 6: Bay Packers gear at the same fucking. 2372 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:22,320 Speaker 2: Fan bases they act like they're gangs. 2373 01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, why would you ever go to an 2374 01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 1: NFL game? Ever? It's the worst experience on known demand. 2375 01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:29,640 Speaker 1: But then more to that, like, why would you go 2376 01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,920 Speaker 1: to fucking Philly? Dude? I told you this. I took 2377 01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,160 Speaker 1: my wife. She had never been to an NFL game before. 2378 01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:35,960 Speaker 6: I didn't take her to Philly, but I took her 2379 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,040 Speaker 6: to This was when the RG three season, and I 2380 01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,639 Speaker 6: took her to see and play the Giants at what's 2381 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:41,519 Speaker 6: the Meadlelands? 2382 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Middlelands right? 2383 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:44,160 Speaker 2: Or it's Met Life No. 2384 01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,000 Speaker 1: But met Life whatever? 2385 01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:48,720 Speaker 6: And uh, we go through the turnstile and immediately in 2386 01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,240 Speaker 6: front of us a fistfight, broken eye, and she was like, 2387 01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:53,960 Speaker 6: it's just like Columbia. 2388 01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:57,200 Speaker 2: Just let's bbls. Just let's do we have more questions 2389 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,479 Speaker 2: from these people. This is from fran Unders score six 2390 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,320 Speaker 2: oh seven. Not really a question, but BC you did, Gritty, 2391 01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,240 Speaker 2: Yes you did. I'm very happy for you. I get 2392 01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:09,639 Speaker 2: nervous when you post more than three motivational quotes a day. Yeah, 2393 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,439 Speaker 2: people always like, what's going on in your life? I'm like, 2394 01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,800 Speaker 2: I'm trying to share hope and optimism with others. 2395 01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:19,080 Speaker 6: You post more motivational quotes than like the dumbest Barbie 2396 01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,200 Speaker 6: girl on Instagram ever. 2397 01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:22,920 Speaker 2: That is, you know, but that's me, you know, Yeah, 2398 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:24,960 Speaker 2: that's how That's who I am. So thank you, Thank you, 2399 01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:29,080 Speaker 2: appreciate that obviously, appreciate all thee uh not not corporately, 2400 01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,160 Speaker 2: but from the from the donks, from the donks, from 2401 01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:31,559 Speaker 2: the people. 2402 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:33,680 Speaker 1: It was very a lot of love. How did you 2403 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:34,479 Speaker 1: feel when it was over? 2404 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,080 Speaker 2: I feel I felt tired, but I felt like we 2405 01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:38,759 Speaker 2: did very well. Yeah, I mean, I've I can improve 2406 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:40,600 Speaker 2: in certain areas for sure, but I feel like for 2407 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,559 Speaker 2: day one, Chemistry, Abner More and I we did damn one. 2408 01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,760 Speaker 6: We talked about was before the show. You know, I've 2409 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,599 Speaker 6: not been the biggest fan of Abner. 2410 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,480 Speaker 2: Oh, this was his best show by far, killed. 2411 01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,439 Speaker 1: It and we talked about this before. I want to 2412 01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:53,720 Speaker 1: say this. 2413 01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,879 Speaker 6: I know people were saying that he was not necessarily 2414 01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:58,400 Speaker 6: given the most accurate translations. 2415 01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to names. 2416 01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:01,920 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say I know a lot of the 2417 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:05,040 Speaker 6: people who do those translations typically, and Abner's was as 2418 01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,160 Speaker 6: good or better than most of them. 2419 01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,240 Speaker 2: So I can't comment on that because I don't speak. 2420 01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,280 Speaker 6: So he's commentating and doing translation. You were doing again 2421 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,680 Speaker 6: prelim card, main card and post fight interviews. 2422 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,000 Speaker 1: It was smooth, brother, Yes, it was smooth. 2423 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:17,639 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 2424 01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:18,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. 2425 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,360 Speaker 2: Is that it long on Luke for the people. Thank 2426 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:22,759 Speaker 2: you so much for your questions. A reminder for next 2427 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,240 Speaker 2: week's show, warning combat at gmail dot com. 2428 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,440 Speaker 1: We'll give you access to fan subs. 2429 01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 2: Dead wrong and potentially showing your package to Mikey, but 2430 01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,040 Speaker 2: do not do that. Thank you so much, all right, 2431 01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:34,839 Speaker 2: please don't so disgusting. 2432 01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:35,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 2433 01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,400 Speaker 2: Our final segment of the week involves me surfing the 2434 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,840 Speaker 2: globe on Sundays to find the highs and lows, the 2435 01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,160 Speaker 2: good and bad only I was traveling this week. So, Luke, 2436 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,519 Speaker 2: this is like my B squad, you know, like when 2437 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,120 Speaker 2: your favorite band like can't put an album together because 2438 01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,040 Speaker 2: they're doing Heroin. So the record company's like, here's an 2439 01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:53,200 Speaker 2: odds and sods B sides collection? Right, mm hmm, yeah, 2440 01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,240 Speaker 2: this is a bunch of shit. Have you seen it? 2441 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,960 Speaker 2: Let's see if my JV team can still entertain you, Luke, 2442 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:08,719 Speaker 2: did you hear about the big g f L signing 2443 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:09,360 Speaker 2: over the weekend? 2444 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:12,479 Speaker 1: Did they sign somebody who's dead and they just dug 2445 01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,759 Speaker 1: up his corpse? Kind of? Let's see it. 2446 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:22,040 Speaker 6: Too soon to stop disrespecting the legends, is what I mean. 2447 01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,599 Speaker 2: I mean, they're making this guy seem like he's old. Luke. 2448 01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,120 Speaker 2: You know what they should do with old people. Take 2449 01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,439 Speaker 2: virtual reality toys away from them. 2450 01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:31,760 Speaker 11: Push your right finger into it. 2451 01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,479 Speaker 5: There you go. Okay, when you hike them ball, you 2452 01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:36,680 Speaker 5: gotta you gotta hold the right figer down. 2453 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:51,360 Speaker 2: You gotta keep it out down and then Luke, all right, 2454 01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,720 Speaker 2: p Kobe, But people are still out here asking you 2455 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:55,639 Speaker 2: how your ass taste? Check this out? 2456 01:43:58,560 --> 01:43:59,160 Speaker 1: I support this? 2457 01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:03,559 Speaker 2: Okay. That's not pro soccer, right, that looks like weekend Warriors. 2458 01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,880 Speaker 6: So this looks like pro soccer and like, you know, 2459 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:07,320 Speaker 6: like the third division in some. 2460 01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,200 Speaker 2: That's not a tea bag. That's a that's a rim 2461 01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:11,840 Speaker 2: job right there. 2462 01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:16,160 Speaker 6: That is Listen, you know, how do you combat flopping 2463 01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,600 Speaker 6: in soccer tea bags? 2464 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,120 Speaker 1: Butthole that isle? 2465 01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:29,360 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so uh let's watch this video. Sherberts felt 2466 01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:33,200 Speaker 2: like that, all right, you don't double check that I 2467 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:40,160 Speaker 2: did this. Guy, we can call it Sherbert. It's fine, Okay, 2468 01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:41,320 Speaker 2: it's not like what people say. 2469 01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,200 Speaker 1: Call it. It's called Sherbet. 2470 01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,720 Speaker 2: People say February all the time, and off TI say February. 2471 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,559 Speaker 1: They don't. They say they don't, but it is. I'm right. 2472 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,519 Speaker 2: If you say Sherbert, you're an asshole. I know you're 2473 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,920 Speaker 2: trying to do the pedantic. I've I'm educated, but think 2474 01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 2: why I. 2475 01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:57,880 Speaker 1: Know what Sherbet and not Sherbert? Can I tell you? 2476 01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,920 Speaker 1: And I'm being dead series the I lost in the 2477 01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,559 Speaker 1: fourth grade spelling bee because I got this wrong? 2478 01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:06,800 Speaker 2: Is that the town spelling bee? 2479 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:09,880 Speaker 1: You know what I was? I went to they changed 2480 01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:10,120 Speaker 1: the name. 2481 01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,240 Speaker 6: I forgot the name of the school is It was 2482 01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,240 Speaker 6: Thomas Jefferson Elementary. That was where I went. That's a 2483 01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:16,880 Speaker 6: different school name. Now I don't know what it's called now. 2484 01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:18,720 Speaker 6: It was my first year there. I just moved there 2485 01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,639 Speaker 6: when my mom got divorced with my dad, and they 2486 01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:23,799 Speaker 6: it was the spelling B and they were like, spell 2487 01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,479 Speaker 6: subet and I thought my own mind, oh sure bert 2488 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 6: b e r T, and I done the same thing. Yeah, 2489 01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:30,800 Speaker 6: it's bet b ET And I was like, I was like, 2490 01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:33,000 Speaker 6: there's no fucking way it's bet. And then I went 2491 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:34,960 Speaker 6: home and I looked in the dictionary and for sure 2492 01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:35,879 Speaker 6: it was surebet. 2493 01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:36,960 Speaker 1: And I was sad. 2494 01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:38,680 Speaker 2: Did you know that? I won the town spelling B 2495 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,439 Speaker 2: in fifth grade? And I went to the state championship 2496 01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,600 Speaker 2: and I finished fourteenth? 2497 01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,680 Speaker 1: Wow, did you really? Why did you become some fucking. 2498 01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 2: Inept marijuana exhibit A. 2499 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,160 Speaker 1: So that's the only reason I know this is because 2500 01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:57,200 Speaker 1: I got. I got fucking also lost in the goddamn. 2501 01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:01,920 Speaker 2: Thing whippets behind the Hey vote for Tito, right, let's 2502 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:02,639 Speaker 2: check us out. 2503 01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,200 Speaker 5: I take a lot of slack from people saying that 2504 01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:06,200 Speaker 5: you're a sellout. 2505 01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:08,439 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not a sellout. I'm an American. 2506 01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:16,919 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, And at the end of the day, united 2507 01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:20,400 Speaker 13: and divide it fall. 2508 01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,080 Speaker 2: That's not how that quote goes don't tread on him. Please. 2509 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,120 Speaker 2: Even Dana got in the comments on that post and 2510 01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:28,840 Speaker 2: where he was like, oh my god, people are still 2511 01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:30,599 Speaker 2: giving you a microphone in twenty twenty five. 2512 01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,160 Speaker 6: He was like, my boy, I thought, you know, isn't 2513 01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:39,920 Speaker 6: Tito was on the season of The Apprentice with Trump? Right, Yes, 2514 01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:42,439 Speaker 6: I think he was on Celebrity Apprentice. 2515 01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:43,679 Speaker 2: I used to love Celebrity Apprentice. 2516 01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:45,320 Speaker 6: By the way I watched The Apprentice, I'm not gonna 2517 01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:47,719 Speaker 6: she only lasted like most shows, I only. 2518 01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:48,160 Speaker 1: Lasted the season. 2519 01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:49,759 Speaker 2: Junior was great in that Joe. 2520 01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:50,759 Speaker 1: They weren't. 2521 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,559 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously I didn't know he was a you know, 2522 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:56,040 Speaker 6: kettle meine adult fucking idiot. But I'll say this, I 2523 01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:58,200 Speaker 6: thought that Trump and like Tito were like, you know, 2524 01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,720 Speaker 6: not close or something, but they had a positive relationship. 2525 01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,240 Speaker 2: I don't think you can be friends with Tito and Dana. 2526 01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:04,280 Speaker 2: I think Dana, yeah, that's right. 2527 01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:05,840 Speaker 1: I think that's right. I mean it feels like he's 2528 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 1: been iced out a little bit, right, Yeah, I. 2529 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:11,920 Speaker 2: Think life is icing to some degree. But uh luke, 2530 01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:13,439 Speaker 2: it's time to play a game we haven't played in 2531 01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:17,200 Speaker 2: a long time. It's time to rate that test, dude. 2532 01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,280 Speaker 2: One to ten ten being you know, perfect perfect. Okay, 2533 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,080 Speaker 2: here we go, let's start off. This comes to us 2534 01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:25,680 Speaker 2: from the artist Pablo Esquiel Frius. 2535 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,120 Speaker 1: And it took Yeah, I'm sure you said that correct, And. 2536 01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,160 Speaker 2: It took eighteen hours. Luke, give me a rating one 2537 01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:30,840 Speaker 2: to ten on this. 2538 01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,280 Speaker 6: This is a ten. This is about as good as 2539 01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:35,800 Speaker 6: this style of tattoo gettings. Look at the saturation on 2540 01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,240 Speaker 6: the color, The shading is perfect, the placement on the 2541 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,320 Speaker 6: body is absolutely I've never seen colors prop like that. 2542 01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:42,960 Speaker 1: That is. 2543 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:43,360 Speaker 2: So. 2544 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,479 Speaker 6: You know what's interesting is I got a tattoo years ago, 2545 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,840 Speaker 6: the one that's got the flag on my arm, and 2546 01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:50,920 Speaker 6: I remember that. When I got these newer ones, they 2547 01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:52,439 Speaker 6: looked at that one and I was asking, like, you know, 2548 01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:53,280 Speaker 6: why is this one fading? 2549 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:54,120 Speaker 1: And what they told me. 2550 01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:55,880 Speaker 6: Is recently, I guess in the last like five to 2551 01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,800 Speaker 6: seven years, there's been an advancement in tattoo coloring ink. 2552 01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,320 Speaker 6: It's gotten both safer and better quality. And I asked him, 2553 01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:05,840 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, how long will these ones last? 2554 01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,000 Speaker 6: And his answer was, because these are so new, they 2555 01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:10,639 Speaker 6: actually don't even know. They expect it will last longer. 2556 01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:12,519 Speaker 6: But the one I'm trying to make is that is skill. 2557 01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,800 Speaker 6: For sure, that is skill, but it might be just 2558 01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,040 Speaker 6: also a product of like really good new material too. 2559 01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,080 Speaker 2: So that's a ten. Mister Hebos's tattoo is. 2560 01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,160 Speaker 1: Like what a negative seventy five thousand. 2561 01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:23,439 Speaker 2: Let's go to the next tat that, Luke and rate. 2562 01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:29,519 Speaker 1: Titty. Go here, Luke, can we get. 2563 01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:30,240 Speaker 2: A score please? 2564 01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:32,360 Speaker 1: It's a ten for effort. 2565 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,000 Speaker 6: Yes, the taste buds look like he has some kind 2566 01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,679 Speaker 6: of disease, look like rib cage must. 2567 01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,200 Speaker 1: Also, it's just really unappealing. I'm gonna go three. 2568 01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,439 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the next one, Luke. This is 2569 01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,880 Speaker 2: a real touching, romantic one with a heart. 2570 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:52,000 Speaker 6: It's a certain kind of minimalist tattoo. Again, line work, 2571 01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:56,000 Speaker 6: not terrible, saturation, good artistic expression, a little questionable. 2572 01:48:56,160 --> 01:49:01,200 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, four, okay, let's go to this NFL fan, Luke. 2573 01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:03,000 Speaker 2: I think you can give him a zero, but what 2574 01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:04,759 Speaker 2: about his Niner gang? 2575 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:08,000 Speaker 6: To get more acting on the back of your head? 2576 01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,800 Speaker 6: You absolute zero? I mean, look at this? Is this 2577 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,840 Speaker 6: a where's the difference between being an NFL fan and 2578 01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,240 Speaker 6: a goddamn prison gang? I don't know, except I guess 2579 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,560 Speaker 6: they use red coloring on the tattoos as opposed to 2580 01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,240 Speaker 6: just black and gray. This is terrible, This is zero. 2581 01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:23,200 Speaker 2: Do you think tattoos on the back of the head 2582 01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,439 Speaker 2: are more often than not always terrible? 2583 01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,400 Speaker 1: More often than not, yes, but there certainly are exceptions. 2584 01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,680 Speaker 2: What about political ones in the back of the head? Me? 2585 01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:38,679 Speaker 1: What do we got here? Oh my god? What line 2586 01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:42,080 Speaker 1: is this? Fucking Okay? 2587 01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:44,360 Speaker 2: That's good ship right there? All right, Hey, I got 2588 01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,240 Speaker 2: a new toy idea Luke for tuks. 2589 01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:54,800 Speaker 1: What do you think? Oh god, dude, that is that 2590 01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,880 Speaker 1: is That is a little mean. 2591 01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,920 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the longest bowl strike before? 2592 01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:09,759 Speaker 1: Watch this? That's pretty awesome. That is off the carpet. 2593 01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is pretty pretty awesome, Luke. We all love 2594 01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:18,479 Speaker 2: those zoom you know, after COVID. We love those zoom 2595 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,559 Speaker 2: videos where someone doesn't realize their cameras still on and 2596 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:22,400 Speaker 2: they're like getting the jerkins out, you know what I mean? 2597 01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,960 Speaker 2: Check out this little thing. Yeah, okay, So if you 2598 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,800 Speaker 2: have a question on meet yourself and shout away. 2599 01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, teach. 2600 01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:32,120 Speaker 2: This ship is reggie. Dude, I don't know what the 2601 01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:33,080 Speaker 2: fuck I'm supposed to do. 2602 01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,720 Speaker 3: Dude, this ship is garbage. What do I what do 2603 01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:36,559 Speaker 3: I say to the plug. 2604 01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy the teacher ended the ended the uh 2605 01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:44,040 Speaker 2: uh bar. 2606 01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:47,120 Speaker 6: Look, we are two assholes in their forties. What does 2607 01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,320 Speaker 6: it mean that the weed is reggie. 2608 01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:51,760 Speaker 7: Rags like ship like brick weed that you would get 2609 01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,479 Speaker 7: like I've heard of like the worst weed from like 2610 01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:55,519 Speaker 7: the seventies with. 2611 01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,759 Speaker 2: Like the weed that we would buy in Waterbury, Connecticut 2612 01:50:57,760 --> 01:50:59,439 Speaker 2: in the nineties had a regano and you know it 2613 01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,439 Speaker 2: was just called we never called. 2614 01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,880 Speaker 11: It's called Reggs regular, Reggie, Reggie Bush. 2615 01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:08,960 Speaker 1: There's age, there's a bunch of names. Jackson, Reggie Jackson. 2616 01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:12,400 Speaker 2: That cat, by the way, he he missed me a lot. 2617 01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,040 Speaker 2: He slept under my channel. 2618 01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:15,519 Speaker 10: Bro. 2619 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,439 Speaker 2: Just yeah, like a python choking. I love that guy 2620 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 2: so much. All right, you know those how it started, 2621 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:22,479 Speaker 2: how to ended things that happened. 2622 01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:28,320 Speaker 1: Watch this guy at this wedding. This is how it started. 2623 01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:47,760 Speaker 2: That's that's body. That's the lesson the kids out there. 2624 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,040 Speaker 6: I told this story before. There was a famous place 2625 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:51,680 Speaker 6: in Columbia. Anyone who's been there, you've heard of it. 2626 01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,760 Speaker 6: They've opened up a version of it in Miami, but 2627 01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:54,759 Speaker 6: it's a bullshit version. 2628 01:51:55,040 --> 01:52:01,479 Speaker 1: It's called Andres Andres Andres for short. It's this most 2629 01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:02,040 Speaker 1: incredible thing. 2630 01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:04,920 Speaker 6: It's like a steampunk restaurant that does like anything you 2631 01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,120 Speaker 6: could imagine, right, Like, it's just ridiculous. And I was 2632 01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:08,800 Speaker 6: in line for the bathroom when it was closing. This 2633 01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:10,400 Speaker 6: is the real one, for folks who know, this is 2634 01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:12,200 Speaker 6: not the one in Bogatad. This is the one in Chia, 2635 01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:14,840 Speaker 6: very different. It's the original one. And I was in 2636 01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,519 Speaker 6: line for the bathroom as it was closing, and there 2637 01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,200 Speaker 6: was all these Brits that were in line with me, 2638 01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,680 Speaker 6: and this guy took a bottle of aguadadante. Dude, this 2639 01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,120 Speaker 6: is like picking tequila, Like that's how strong it is. 2640 01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,680 Speaker 6: And I'll never fucking forget this. He was already shithoused. 2641 01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,720 Speaker 6: He cracks this motherfucker and goes to the face with it. 2642 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:34,160 Speaker 6: We're talking like a leader of this fucking thing. 2643 01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,639 Speaker 1: Dude. If he lived to make it home, I would 2644 01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:39,280 Speaker 1: be shocked. 2645 01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:43,479 Speaker 6: I'm talking alcohol poisoning on the best of circumstances, dude. 2646 01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:45,880 Speaker 2: I went to Jamaica in three and then the lobby 2647 01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:50,280 Speaker 2: bar after midnight one night, two armed forces gentlemen challenged 2648 01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:54,160 Speaker 2: each other to a vodka shot, uh whatever you call it. 2649 01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,800 Speaker 2: A You know they were already drunk. They got us 2650 01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,960 Speaker 2: to eighteen shots, and on the eighteenth one, this guy 2651 01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,120 Speaker 2: I did the shot, celebrated and then fell face forward 2652 01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:04,000 Speaker 2: and hit his face on. 2653 01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,679 Speaker 1: The bar aloholde, oh my god. 2654 01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:08,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you win if you win that? 2655 01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,439 Speaker 2: The worst hangover ever and alcohol poisoning. 2656 01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,160 Speaker 1: Your IQ lowered by fifty. 2657 01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:14,880 Speaker 2: You imagine drinking that much? I mean, you know, because 2658 01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:16,560 Speaker 2: it takes you fifty five beers to get drunk, but 2659 01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:18,080 Speaker 2: only through Margarita's folks. 2660 01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,000 Speaker 1: Okay, listen, listen at my peak, at my peak, I 2661 01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:21,439 Speaker 1: could drink. 2662 01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:23,639 Speaker 2: All right, let's head over to the barber shop here 2663 01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:28,080 Speaker 2: for either. I never said I could. All right, Luke, 2664 01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:28,680 Speaker 2: what do you think of. 2665 01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,519 Speaker 1: This little I mean crazy? Where where is the drive 2666 01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:32,559 Speaker 1: by shooter? When you get I mean, what are we doing? 2667 01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,000 Speaker 2: Okay? You can rate that, Dad or Erica? Your choice? 2668 01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:39,880 Speaker 2: Uh Luke. This next barber shop creation gives new meaning 2669 01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:40,799 Speaker 2: to the term dickhead. 2670 01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,160 Speaker 6: I don't know if this is a big rank did 2671 01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:48,599 Speaker 6: as they say? As the kids say online, they did 2672 01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 6: unk dirty? 2673 01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:50,360 Speaker 1: They definitely did. 2674 01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,280 Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of a drive through barber That's 2675 01:53:52,280 --> 01:54:01,840 Speaker 2: a decent idea, right, I heard of this? Okay? 2676 01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:04,519 Speaker 1: What the fuck is the story there. 2677 01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:08,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's that's intense right there. You know, 2678 01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,720 Speaker 2: Seawn Michael's finishing moving. Ww the sweet Chin music he 2679 01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:13,559 Speaker 2: kicked him in the face. Yeah yeah, this one's called 2680 01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:23,920 Speaker 2: sweet kid music. Boy. That's uh, that's I'll give that 2681 01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,320 Speaker 2: one five big booms. Right wow, yeah, that is good 2682 01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:30,240 Speaker 2: stuff right there. All right, let's hit to the basketball court. 2683 01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:32,440 Speaker 2: Somebody tell the janitor we got a live game going 2684 01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:32,880 Speaker 2: on here. 2685 01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:34,720 Speaker 1: What the fuck? 2686 01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:38,200 Speaker 2: What is he doing, you know, bringing a bringing one 2687 01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:39,800 Speaker 2: of the benches across the floor in the middle of 2688 01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:40,120 Speaker 2: a game. 2689 01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:41,000 Speaker 1: Not you know, not a problem. 2690 01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:44,120 Speaker 2: Not a problem there, you know, good old U. That's 2691 01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:46,040 Speaker 2: great stuff. Hey, it's sign for a new segment. It's 2692 01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:47,320 Speaker 2: called Hats of the Week. 2693 01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:53,600 Speaker 1: Luke Old Kouchi is better than No Cuci. That is wisdom. 2694 01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:54,120 Speaker 2: Let's keep it. 2695 01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:59,080 Speaker 1: Going, less nacking, more gagging. 2696 01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:09,440 Speaker 2: And here's our our producer, Matt's favorite person in the world, Luigi. 2697 01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:14,560 Speaker 2: They've they've made this guy into a hero. And one more. 2698 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:19,000 Speaker 1: Check out this old bastard. These are great hats. Strip 2699 01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:19,680 Speaker 1: Club veteran. 2700 01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,480 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, brother, So you get mad at me for 2701 01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,480 Speaker 2: wearing my nWo Wrestling T shirt with the stars and 2702 01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,520 Speaker 2: stripes on the shoulders. There these these colors don't bleed. 2703 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,600 Speaker 2: And this guy's got like these military badges on a 2704 01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:32,120 Speaker 2: strip club. 2705 01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:38,120 Speaker 6: They're called ribbons. Yeah, I mean, it's all pretty bad. 2706 01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,720 Speaker 6: It's just the difference is there's there's actually rules about 2707 01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:42,720 Speaker 6: flag code. There's no well there's ribbon code, but it's 2708 01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:44,360 Speaker 6: only for uniform personnel, all right. 2709 01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,880 Speaker 2: Different, speaking of strippers, we would probably celebrate anyone on 2710 01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,000 Speaker 2: the show if they like overcame drugs and turn their 2711 01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:50,440 Speaker 2: life around. 2712 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,959 Speaker 1: Sure, even even strippers. 2713 01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,960 Speaker 14: Right the rason why I'm so emotional because this is 2714 01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:01,680 Speaker 14: my fourth time that I've ever performed without any cocaine, 2715 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:03,720 Speaker 14: without any poor would I any? 2716 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:09,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, you gotta give it up to her, right, 2717 01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:12,560 Speaker 2: she can't even on k She kicked the habit now 2718 01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:15,840 Speaker 2: and now her career can really for the big take 2719 01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:18,960 Speaker 2: off like her clothing all right? Uh, Luke, you remember 2720 01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:22,840 Speaker 2: those Jersey shore people introduce us to GTL. I think 2721 01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:26,920 Speaker 2: that's the laundry gym fight sleep. Let's watch this. Watch 2722 01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:28,200 Speaker 2: the bottom of your screen. 2723 01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:31,040 Speaker 1: You're the guy doing curls and like mean mugging everybody yep, 2724 01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,320 Speaker 1: with his belt on. Why do you? Why are you 2725 01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,880 Speaker 1: doing curls with your belt on, you fucking puss. Well 2726 01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:36,560 Speaker 1: take them off. 2727 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:41,040 Speaker 2: He's talking trash to this dude sitting next to him. 2728 01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:41,600 Speaker 1: What happened? 2729 01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:41,720 Speaker 2: Here? 2730 01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:45,520 Speaker 1: Are they pushing and shove it? Oh? He fucking triangled him? Yeah? 2731 01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:47,080 Speaker 1: Good good? That guy looks like a dumb. 2732 01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:48,320 Speaker 2: Ass tap or nap bitch. 2733 01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:50,280 Speaker 6: Let me just say this, if you're walking around the 2734 01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,720 Speaker 6: gym with a belt and you're doing hammer curls, you're 2735 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:54,200 Speaker 6: a bitch. 2736 01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:55,400 Speaker 2: That guy got the hell out of there. 2737 01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:56,200 Speaker 1: You're a bitch. 2738 01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:59,040 Speaker 2: Wow. All right, A couple more for you, Luke. Here's 2739 01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:00,680 Speaker 2: your T shirt of the week. May see this at 2740 01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:01,280 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. 2741 01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:03,760 Speaker 6: Taylor Swift swallows. Well, you know what, She's not my 2742 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,520 Speaker 6: type BC, but that might make her one, you know 2743 01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:06,080 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. 2744 01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:06,600 Speaker 1: Wow? 2745 01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:08,080 Speaker 2: One more for you, Luke. 2746 01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:08,880 Speaker 1: Do you ever dress up? 2747 01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:11,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to bring this up after rip Barbus, 2748 01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:13,480 Speaker 2: but were you big on dressing up the animals and clothes? 2749 01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:15,720 Speaker 2: Maybe like on like Christmas or something with Yeah, because 2750 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:19,480 Speaker 2: my dog Molly loves wearing outfits. Hats on the big 2751 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:22,640 Speaker 2: brown German shepherd. Check out this dog dressing up? 2752 01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:25,080 Speaker 14: A note in your pocket? 2753 01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:27,480 Speaker 9: Oh dog, what does it saying? 2754 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,800 Speaker 1: What the fuck? What does it say? 2755 01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:41,480 Speaker 2: They just hit the second tower. That's the ship of 2756 01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,160 Speaker 2: the week, Lucope, you saw it? All right, that's uh, 2757 01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:45,600 Speaker 2: that's all we got. 2758 01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:50,000 Speaker 1: We're fresh off of BBC. Of BBC Jesus Christ, we're 2759 01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:54,240 Speaker 1: fresh off of BC having the call of his life. Right. 2760 01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, he should get this gig more consistently. And 2761 01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:58,520 Speaker 1: the first thing he does when he gets back on 2762 01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:00,000 Speaker 1: the air is till nine to eleven jokes. 2763 01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's all we got. I'm gonna pee 2764 01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:06,440 Speaker 2: my pants. But but folks, we would like you to 2765 01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:09,520 Speaker 2: remember Morning Combat at gmail dot com to reach the show, 2766 01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,280 Speaker 2: like and subscribe, help us continue to build what we're 2767 01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:16,680 Speaker 2: doing here, including our YouTube channels, which are like accompaniments accomplices, 2768 01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:19,800 Speaker 2: compliments of what we do. And don't forget This Friday 2769 01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:23,280 Speaker 2: in the normal episode slot eleven am Eastern in this studio, 2770 01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,720 Speaker 2: it's Chuck Mindenhall returning with the boys. Yeah to hit 2771 01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:30,480 Speaker 2: us with a pregame preview UFC three twelve edition brought 2772 01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:34,040 Speaker 2: to you by Queer Friends at Sure. Shout out to 2773 01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:38,280 Speaker 2: our new sponsor, Luke Goldbelly, Yes, Goldbelly dot com. Slash 2774 01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:41,560 Speaker 2: Combat with a k Combat use the code with to 2775 01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:45,320 Speaker 2: get twenty percent off there and those trash can nachos baby. 2776 01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:47,960 Speaker 1: And draft King what about drafting draft Kings. 2777 01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:50,800 Speaker 6: You know that's where a great place to do phenomenal 2778 01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:51,400 Speaker 6: sports betting. 2779 01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:52,480 Speaker 1: The crown is yours. 2780 01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:55,560 Speaker 2: There, It is right there all right, Long Island, Luke, 2781 01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:58,040 Speaker 2: thank you for your service in the show today. 2782 01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:00,600 Speaker 1: You'll be here Friday, right, yea, come forward to it 2783 01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:00,880 Speaker 1: all right. 2784 01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:03,280 Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll hear from your dad maybe because it's the 2785 01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:04,240 Speaker 2: cards in Australia. 2786 01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,600 Speaker 7: I actually told him that yesterday. I saw him this 2787 01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:08,320 Speaker 7: weekend and he had zero interest. 2788 01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:13,360 Speaker 6: Your dad is from We're in Australia, Melbourne, Melbourne, Melbourne, Yeah, yeah. 2789 01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah for Ken, our sound guy. 2790 01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:18,000 Speaker 1: We love Ken right when he's sober, which is rare. 2791 01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:22,560 Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody in the Deer, everybody working on 2792 01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:23,080 Speaker 2: the show. 2793 01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:25,320 Speaker 1: And this is a true story. Ye would not stop 2794 01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:27,240 Speaker 1: farting in the elevator. We have we had to have 2795 01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,680 Speaker 1: an intervention. We're like, in the Deer, please stop farting 2796 01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:30,280 Speaker 1: in the elevator. 2797 01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:33,480 Speaker 2: So the non shitting bathroom which is still out of order. Yeah, 2798 01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:35,720 Speaker 2: and you know anytime an executive around here is like 2799 01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,040 Speaker 2: you guys, got got a hunch, and I'm like, Luke Thomas, 2800 01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:39,200 Speaker 2: you think it could be in the deer? 2801 01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:42,960 Speaker 6: Could it be in the deer? The deer was daring me. 2802 01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:44,560 Speaker 6: He was like, would you go take a dump in 2803 01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:47,320 Speaker 6: the sink and appropriate. 2804 01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:50,040 Speaker 2: Mister shop please? All right, worst pain of everyone's life. 2805 01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:52,080 Speaker 2: All right, that's it. We can't do it anymore. Thanks 2806 01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,200 Speaker 2: so much, guys. We'll be back on Friday. Check us 2807 01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:56,440 Speaker 2: out this week on our own channels and take care 2808 01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:56,920 Speaker 2: of yourself. 2809 01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:57,320 Speaker 10: Peace. 2810 01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:58,040 Speaker 1: We out of here.