1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to the Clay Travis and 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. We have been telling you about this 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: situation of protests outside Supreme Court justices homes and there's 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: a lot going on here. Let's start with the protests 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: outside of Justice Roberts and Kavanaugh's homes, I believe in 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Montgomery County, which is in Maryland. And then the protest 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: that is now as of last night, has extended to 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: the state of Virginia, where in actually forget what the 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: area is in Virginia, but anyway, Aldo's home in northern 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Virginia has also be in the side of protests. People 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: are pointing out, first of all, this is just childish, reckless, 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: and irresponsible. Start with that this is not the way 14 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: in a civil society that people should be acting. And 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: I would point out that even the Washington Post, believe 16 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: it or not, the editorial board yesterday wrote a peace 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: saying leave the justices alone at home. The Washington Post 18 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: editorial board, which I can tell you in general, will 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: lie down in traffic to keep abortion legal and to 20 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: support a Roe v. Wade last minute saving by a 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: reversal of the Supreme Court justices. The Washington Post is saying, again, 22 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: knock it off with the protests outside of the judges homes. 23 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: I think a part of that, A part of that 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: is the recognition that this is not legal. It is 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: not legal. At the federal level, there is a statute that, 26 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: very understandably, it makes perfect sense, bars people from trying 27 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: to intimidate judges and in any way affect the judicial process. 28 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: And having an angry mob outside your home and your 29 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court judge or any judge for that matter, is 30 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: intimidation affecting the process. Now, we don't think the bidendj 31 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: will do anything. I'm not going to send the FBI 32 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: in to clear out the area, not because they shouldn't 33 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: as a function of law, but because we all know 34 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: the politics here. Biden's DJ is a joke, and they're 35 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: not Merrick Garland, who was putting parents on notice that 36 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: maybe you're a domestic terrorist if you've got a problem 37 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: with the school board in your neighborhood. But no issue 38 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: with these threats of Supreme Court justices. But then, Clay, 39 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: the additional component of it is that I know under 40 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Virginia law, I believe also under Maryland law there are 41 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: statutes that prohibit protest gatherings outside of private homes, which 42 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: given that so many public officials, by the way, live 43 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: in Maryland or Virginia who work in DC, you understand 44 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: how this would be a law on both places. And 45 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: there were people very critical of Glenn young Kin, the 46 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: governor of Virginia, who has done some good things since 47 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: he took office. We have noted to hear on the show. 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: But as we always tell you, we call balls and 49 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: strikes here, folks. You know when it's good, it's good. 50 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: When it's not, we tell you right when there's a problem, 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: we address it, even on our own team, so to speak, 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: even on the riot, even with conservatives. Clay, what do 53 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: you make of this with young kids saying they'll keep 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: the judges safe, but they're not going to go in 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: there and say you're not allowed to protest outside their home. 56 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe that anybody of any political bent should 57 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: be able to protest outside of anyone's home. That includes me, 58 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: that includes you, Buck, that certainly includes anybody who is 59 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: involved in the judiciary. I think this should apply if 60 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: you are a Republican, if you are a Democrat. There 61 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: are plenty of places to seek redress for political opinions. 62 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't believe that our neighborhoods outside of people's home 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: should be one of them, period, Okay, And that is 64 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: a content neutral policy that I would apply that I 65 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: believe Mayrek Garland need to apply regardless of what the 66 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: politics involved are. Having said that, if you are Glenn 67 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Yunkin or if you are Jason mer as people who 68 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: have been on this show before. He's the Attorney General 69 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: of Virginia Republicans. The challenge that I think they face 70 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Buck is if you arrest people for this, are you 71 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: creating a much larger protest going forward and making the 72 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: people that you arrest martyrs? I think you might very 73 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: well be doing that, And so I'm sure in the 74 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: back of their minds they're trying to analyze this and say, 75 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: what is the best way to make this disappear sooner 76 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: read than later? If we arrest people, are we going 77 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: to make it worse? And I don't know for sure 78 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: what the answer is. My concern is that you are 79 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: creating an environment that allows violence to fester, and at 80 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: some point time if that violence explodes, as we've already 81 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: seen it happening in Madison, wisconsint in terms of a 82 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: molotov cocktail being thrown into a anti abortion location. I 83 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: think the challenge becomes, how do you reconcile this? And 84 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: this is why Buck. To me, the solution is the 85 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: opinion has to come out now. Chief Justice Roberts has 86 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: to release this opinion. And I understand the argument of, well, 87 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: we can allow whoever the leaker was to change the 88 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: time frame of what we want to do when it 89 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: comes to releasing this opinion, and it wasn't scheduled to 90 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: come out until late June, and right now we're only 91 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: talking about mid May. The leak threw that into the 92 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: dust bin of history. In my opinion, Buck, and what 93 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: needs to happen, and I'm gonna keep hammering this is 94 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: Chief Justice Roberts need to sign on to it, making 95 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: a six three decision, so we're not talking about one 96 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: justice switching and making this law change. And on top 97 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: of that, it needs to come out immediately because I 98 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: think that would dilute the value of protesting at the 99 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice's homes. That's the solution. Do you think 100 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: Roberts will, by the way, because we might have to 101 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: have a side bet here. I think there's no chance 102 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: Roberts is gonna go over injury. You think he's gonna 103 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: sign side with the other three. I think he's gonna 104 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: think he's gonna write a dissent and he's gonna side 105 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: with the other three. He's gonna say this goes too far. 106 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: You may be right, But if he truly cares about 107 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: the legitimacy of the court and he's willing to sign 108 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: on to which is written reports the fifteen week ban 109 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: in Mississippi, then he needs to go all in and 110 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: say that this should go back to states. Because if 111 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: this is a five four decision, Buck, then as long 112 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: as this sticks at a five four decision, every conservative 113 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: justice is potentially under siege from a violent protester because 114 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: in their mind, they're going to think, if I take 115 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: out one of these justices. I'm telling you, I hate 116 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: to even have to say it, but I think after 117 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: the decision comes out, because I think that I think 118 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: this is a lot of it is the this is 119 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: pro abortion propaganda. We keep hearing about how oh the 120 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: it'll never normalize and the fight toal continue forever. It'll 121 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: go to the states. A lot of things go to 122 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: the states. States have different rules about a whole range 123 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: of issues. I think that will take a lot of 124 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: the heat out of this once people realize what I 125 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: think by four want. That's why it needs to be 126 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: six three, because if you have to replace two conservative 127 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: justices to overturn this ruling, that becomes much more difficult 128 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: in order to pull that off, which is why I 129 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: think if Chief Justice Roberts truly cares about the legitimacy 130 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: of the Court, he needs to make this a six 131 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: three decision so that for the rest of the next 132 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: several years, as this becomes more mainstream and it goes 133 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: back to the states, which I think is the right decision. 134 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: There isn't the constant drumbeat of only one justice needs 135 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: to be changed and Roe v. Wade becomes the law. 136 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look at Obamacare, right, I mean, there have 137 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: been huge there have been momentous decisions that have gone 138 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: down five four and we learned, we learned to People 139 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: will complain, of course, but Clay, they'll complain at six 140 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: three as well. That's I guess I can if it's 141 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: harder to think that there are going to be two 142 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: justices that you can replace, hopefully in the next decade, 143 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: than it is to think if we replace one person, 144 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: this ruling disappoint how many I mean, how many a 145 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: Trump get right, if you think about it. Yeah, but 146 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: but all being on the conservative side, Trump got three, 147 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: which was a huge deal. But the odds and and 148 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: honestly that the odds partly that was because one was 149 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: already held up, right, so we got two. But that's 150 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: just my fear. My fear is that if it's five four, 151 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't have the legitimacy. I do think the big 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: swing from five four to sixty three is significant. And 153 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: here we have, speaking of fear. They're trying to tell 154 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: everybody that the real concern is actually from pro life 155 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: people becoming violent. And this is from This is from 156 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: CBS eating News plays an intelligence bulletin reviewed by CBS 157 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: News warrants extremists could be mobilizing during this powerful debate nationwide, 158 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: potentially targeting abortion clinics and government officials. So now let 159 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: me tell folks about how this goes. For a second. 160 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: You've done these because I've done these. Okay, I've done these. 161 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: I've done these four I've written for the PDB many 162 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: many times a President's Daily Briefing. I've run the PDB 163 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: briefing for the President before, so I know how this 164 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: system works. What happens here is you have a policy official. 165 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Play could be anybody DJ White House official who knows right. 166 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: You have somebody high up in the chain who says 167 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: I need an assessment of right. Let's let's say Merik 168 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Garland wants, you know, the FBI analysts or DHS analysts 169 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: to do an assessment on what the threats are. You're 170 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: an analyst, You're writing the assessment. They get to set 171 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: what the parameters are. And you also know who your 172 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: customer is. So when they send down to you, as 173 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: let's say Merrick Garland Wood in this example, hey give 174 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: us a sense of what the risk is from pro 175 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: life and pro choice factions for violence. Right now, you 176 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: know exactly what the tasking is. And you're going if 177 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: you want to get that award, if you want to 178 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: get the pad on the head, you want to get 179 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: the pay increase in six months or whatever the step increase, 180 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: you give what you're supposed to give, which is a 181 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: could be on both sides assessment because let me tell you, 182 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: if you do the other thing of saying, Hey, I'm 183 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: ann analyst who's actually looking at the date of the information, 184 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: and I'm going to send this memo to Merrick Garland 185 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: that says the threat of violence is overwhelmingly from pro 186 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: choice lunatics or pro abortion lunatics right now. Guess what, 187 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: You're never getting asked to write that memo again, and 188 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: your superiors are gonna say you're not a very good analyst. 189 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: So I'm just telling everybody. When CBS says we saw 190 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: a draft intelligence memo, you can get them to write 191 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: an intelligence memo saying that Mars is going to invade tomorrow. 192 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: It's not hard to do. Here's the other thing that 193 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: you were hinting at, and I think we need to 194 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: emphasize and talked to my school board Buck remember that 195 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: back in August talk about the man you're on the 196 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: list now, Travis and I got called the domestic terrorist. 197 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Where the hell's Merrick Garland with actual domestic terrorism going on, 198 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: How is it that he can't say we need to 199 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: condemn what is going on right now in terms of 200 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: domestic extremism and violence that's being brought to bear by 201 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: the left wing in the United States right now. A 202 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: truly good because I'm not even gonna try to say impartial, 203 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: because I don't think it exists. But a truly decent 204 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: Department of Justice head would at least treat actual violence 205 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: associated with the left wing in this country and the 206 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: potential Alito opinion as aggressively as he taught treated moms 207 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: and dads who decided to go and speak out at 208 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: their school boards. Yet they were labeled domestic terrorists. Buck, 209 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: and we haven't seen at least I haven't so far, 210 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland calling out any of the left wing violence 211 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: and pointing out that that is actual domestic terrorism and 212 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: deserves to be investigated fully by our Department of Justice. 213 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. The terrifying realization that everybody should have, 214 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: because this is reality, folks, is the same way that 215 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: corporations have been leveraged, have been utilized as part of 216 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: the left wing, left wing tactic to be weapons against 217 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: their political enemies. The federal apparatus the same thing the 218 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: federal government. You don't need to have everybody there. A 219 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans are work at the federal government, a 220 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: lot of good people, a lot of patriots. All you 221 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: need is to be the Bolsheviks within the system who 222 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: control the lovers of power and use it when you 223 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: have to, and that's what they do. That's certainly what's 224 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: happening in Merrick Garland's DOJ, just like it was happening 225 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: under Eric Holder's DJ under Obama. Same thing. We need 226 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: Bill Barr back in office, we do. He was good. 227 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: He was very good. 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Dive in today pillow dot 245 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: Com and save yourself a bundle buy one, get one free. 246 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 247 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We start off the 248 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: show talking about the fact that Joe Biden was addressing 249 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: inflation at the same time that we began the show, 250 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: and he was asked about how much responsibility Democrats had 251 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: to own for inflation. And here was that question as 252 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: well as Biden's response, I want to let you guys 253 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: all hear it. Let's play it. I don't believe so 254 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: many Americans believe that your administration is not doing enough 255 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: to come that inflation. And do you believe that you 256 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: and your administration dare some measure of responsibility for the 257 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: inflation that we're seeing in trusted un First is we're 258 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: in power, so first and you justifiably right, we control 259 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: all three branches of government. Well, we don't really, we 260 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: have fifty fifteen to Senate. You need sixty votes to 261 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: get in majors things. John, I've been pushing the things 262 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: I've been proposing here and you've heard me speak to 263 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: Nay since I got in office. And I need to 264 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: get sixty votes to be able to even passion. Can 265 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: you take any responsibility or policies. I think our policies 266 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: help not hurt the uck help not hurt, Like, let's 267 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: just dive into help not hurt. What does that mean? 268 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: How is there not a follow up there? Because what 269 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: would the inflation rate be if he's helped? Or at 270 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: eight point five percent? So it's double digit if he's 271 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: not president? Yeah, you have to wonder in what universe 272 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: he is living, because it's not the one we're living in. 273 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: And you think about the one point nine trillion dollars 274 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: that Democrats spent without a single Republican votes. His thinking 275 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: about we can't get anything done. It's just not true. 276 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: They got one point nine trillion of spending and they 277 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: were about to get five trillion in spending until Democrats 278 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: said a couple of them, you guys are out of 279 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: your gosh, jarn, mind's okay, you can't do this, all right, 280 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: Joe Manchin, And I remember I said this to you, 281 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Clay like six months ago. I think Joe Manchin may 282 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: have saved the Democrat Party from complete complete financial implosion, 283 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: or rather implosion because of the financial policies the person 284 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: admit that the country. I think he may have been 285 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: the guy standing athwart the Democrats insanity, yelling stop, so 286 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: to speak. And it's funny that, Joe Biden, But what 287 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: else are you gonna say? This is the problem running 288 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: with Democrats. First of all, they could have pushed for 289 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: just and not that infrastructure would have fixed inflation, because 290 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have. But notice they always tied inflation, I mean, sorry, 291 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: infrastructure to build back better. It was always it's got 292 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: to be both. It's got to be both or else 293 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: we don't want to do this. So they wanted all 294 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: this massive spending and they now would have to recognize, well, 295 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: that was a really dumb idea. But the only option 296 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: for them is to admit that they're wrong, and to 297 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: admit that they're wrong is to admit that Republicans were right. 298 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: And they won't do it. That's why they won't turn 299 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: the ship around. That's why we're heading toward the rocks. 300 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: And Joe Biden saying full steam ahead. It's also why 301 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: you need multiple questions on top of that, because your 302 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: immediate alarm bells, Buck, when I see that answer, I 303 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: think it would have been worse. Do you bear any responsibility? 304 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: I think it would have been worse. That's a record 305 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: scratch moment where you go back and say, wait a minute, 306 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: we're at eight point five percent inflation. That's the highest 307 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: in forty years. When you came into office, inflation was 308 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: under two percent. What you are telling the American public 309 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: is if you were not in office, if Republicans were 310 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: in control right now, inflation would be double digits. You're 311 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: telling me if Donald Trump had beaten you in twenty twenty, 312 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: that inflation right now in this country would be over 313 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: ten percent. You've made it better. At eight point five 314 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: the worst in forty years. That is not an argument 315 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: that the American public. Here's Buck, and they even will 316 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: countenance on the most basic level. That's a lie, is 317 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: and you need to be held accountable for it. 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Again, that's eleven dollars 336 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: a month. Please donate today t the number two T 337 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: dot org. Welcome back into the Clay Travis and Buck 338 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Everybody. We want to talk more about what's 339 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: going on outside these Supreme Court justices homes. Right now, 340 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: we've got Doug Blair with us now. He's a news 341 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: producer at The Daily Signal and co hosts of The 342 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: Daily Signal podcast. Doug, thanks for being with us. Hey, guys, 343 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me on so our understandings. 344 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: You were out there watching some of these protests, you know, 345 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: nice house, he got their Supreme Court justice kind of protests. 346 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. People are worried about this, 347 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: People worried about the security safety of these justices. What 348 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: do you see? Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. I was 349 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: out there watching these protesters march around and find their 350 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: way suddenly in front of the houses of some of 351 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: the most important justices in the land. It was it 352 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: was horrifying. I mean, these people are so angry, they're 353 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: so spiteful, and the fact that they thought it was 354 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: appropriate for them to go to the houses of private 355 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: residences of some of these justices. It's literally only for 356 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: one reason. It's to intimidate them. It's to force them 357 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: to think that they're in danger, and if they don't 358 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: vote a certain way on Roe v. Wade, they're gonna 359 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: do something. And we don't know what that's. Something is 360 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: but it's sure ain't good. Doug. What is the overall 361 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: vibe of the crowd that you found yourself in outside 362 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: of these homes? Did it feel dangerous? Did it fill 363 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: potentially violent? How sustained? Do you get the sense that 364 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: this is going to be for those of us who 365 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: haven't been around these crowds, take us inside their midst 366 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: and tell us what it felt like. So I've been 367 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: to a couple of these protests right now, and it 368 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: depends on which person it is. Justice John Roberts felt like, 369 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: you're very average, Like I'm mad, I'm going to protest 370 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: in front of somebody's house who I don't like, which 371 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: is ideally not what you're doing. But this is where 372 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: we're at now with the modern left. They were upset, 373 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: but they weren't that upset. I mean, it got so 374 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: much worse when they got to break Kavanaugh's house. Something 375 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: in the air just changed. You could feel it turned 376 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: like a switch. They just viewed this person as like 377 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: a monster, as subhuman, and they wanted him to know 378 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: that they were out there and they hated his guts. 379 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: So I heard one protester yell and scream, I can 380 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: see you, Brett. I hope that God he was wrong. 381 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: I hope that Brett wasn't actually at his house, that 382 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: Justice Cavanaugh wasn't at his house. But it was, It wasn't. 383 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: It was terrifying. I was. I was scared for the 384 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: police officers who were there, because this crowd was just 385 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: so agitated and so angry. Doug, what what was the 386 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: security presence like? Were there a police officers that were 387 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: doing crowd control of these protesters. We were discussing earlier 388 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: in the program that this would seem to be a 389 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: violation of law in the state of Virginia in the 390 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: state of Maryland, respectively. But were there a police on 391 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: scene and what was that like? Absolutely so, there were, 392 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: thankfully police on presence. There was there was a police 393 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: presence at the at the houses. I think it's it's 394 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: kind of scary, though, the fact that there had to 395 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: be a police presence at these places, because it just 396 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: shows you how far down the discourse in America has 397 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: got where these protesters felt like the response to a 398 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: decision that they might not like from the Supreme Court 399 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: is to go and intimidate these justices. I think it's 400 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: just terrifying that we've reached this point where the last 401 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: field empowered to go and harass people where they live 402 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: to try and get what they want. And thankfully there 403 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: were police officers there, but I shudder to think what 404 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: would have happened if there weren't. You know, Doug, one 405 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: of the things we were talking about and discussing is 406 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: the challenges associated with enforcing these laws, whether it's Maryland, 407 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: whether it's Virginia, whether it's DC where some of these 408 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: justices may live. What do you think would have happened 409 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: based on being in that crowd if there had started 410 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: to be arrests made? Does this make protest more likely 411 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: going forward? Does it make martyrs of the people who 412 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: are arrested? Or would that nip these protests in the 413 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: bud and the people that you saw are unlikely to 414 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: keep showing back up? How would you assess that aspect 415 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: of these protests. It's funny you asked me that because 416 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: I actually had a circumstance where I was watching these 417 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: protests happen and the police showed up in full force. 418 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: About five cop cars showed up outside of Justice Cavanaid's house, 419 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: And you wouldn't even believe it that there have been 420 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: a hundred people there because they scattered to the wind. 421 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: They were terrified of the police coming to arrest them, 422 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: and I think that they're terrified overall two of this 423 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: movement that's happening right now. Right I think America is 424 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: sort of seeing a revitalization of a culture of life 425 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: that has been gone for fifty years since rov Wade 426 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: was formally put into place. I think that these protesters 427 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: steel as if they're seeing the demise of an abortion 428 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: type regime that is just it has been existing in 429 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: this country for far too long. And I think when 430 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: they do a sort of cops show up, they recognize that, 431 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: you know, time was not on the side anymore, they 432 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: were going to lose this fight, and that they didn't 433 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: want to be around to see what the results were 434 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: going to be. Speaking of Douglas Blair, he's a producer 435 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: of The Daily Signal co host of the Daily Signal podcast, Doug, 436 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: is the expectation that they're just going to be ongoing 437 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: protests every day or are they going to try to 438 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: camp out somewhere in the neighborhood occupy style? What's going 439 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: to happen is based on what you're hearing from people 440 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: who are there and from the authorities who are trying 441 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: to keep it relatively orderly. It's an excellent question because 442 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't see these ending anytime soon. So there's a 443 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: planned protest for tomorrow. They're going to go to all 444 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: the conservative justices houses. So far, they've only hit Alito, 445 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: Robert and Kavanaugh. There's plans for tomorrow to hit the 446 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: rest of them. But I easily could see this going 447 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: on for a long long time. This is not a 448 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: group that gives up. Yesterday, I actually got some very 449 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: concerning footage of Black Block and Antifa members who had 450 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: attended these protests. All of the other protests I had seen, 451 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: there were angry people, for sure, and they were definitely upset, 452 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: and they did inappropriate things in front of the houses 453 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: of these justices, but there was no Black Block presence. 454 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm from Portland, Oregon, so I know exactly what happens 455 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: when Antifa and Black Block show up to a protest. 456 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: It gets real bad, real quick. So that was incredibly 457 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: disturbing for me to see that these people were attending 458 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: these protests. And I do want to note one thing 459 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: very quickly. As we are starting to see these protests 460 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: get more and more aggressive and more and more threatening 461 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: to the lives of the justices. I think it's despicable 462 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: how we haven't seen a response from the administration to this. 463 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: We saw a very lukewarm, very milktoast statement come out 464 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: from President Biden Jansaki about how you know violence is 465 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: unacceptable in protesting. Well, sure, that's fine, but like I 466 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: think we need actual condemnation of what is happening right 467 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: now in these particular protests. It's not acceptable for you 468 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: to go to somebody's house and threaten them and harass 469 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: them to get the judgment that you want. Doug, last 470 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: question here for you. You're talking about the duration of 471 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: these complaints and these protests. What sense do you get 472 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: if any of the neighbors, Because if I were living 473 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: in these neighborhoods, regardless of what my politics would be, 474 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: I would be really really angry about people taking over 475 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: my neighborhood and chanting political slogans, regardless of what they were, 476 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get my kids the Little League, 477 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get in and out of school. Did 478 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: you get any sense for the neighborhoods that these justices 479 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: live in and what that response might be. Oh, guys, 480 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: it's it's funny you mentioned that because these are suburbs 481 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: of Washington, DC. Washington is clearly one of the most 482 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: blue cities in the country. It's it's very, very, very 483 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: less leaning. So these sometimes the neighbors would come out 484 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: and join the marches. We would see people who would 485 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: come out of their houses. They would cheer, they would clap. 486 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, some would begin to walk with the protesters. 487 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: One of the protesters in charge of the Kavanaugh protests, 488 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: what's his neighbor? This was a person who thought this 489 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: he was an evil person. And again, I think that's 490 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: just so sad that we're at this point in the 491 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: country where your neighbor, somebody that you should at least 492 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: have friendly terms with or at least you know, interact with, 493 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: is deciding that the best way to deal with you 494 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: is to go outside and to harass you where you live. 495 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: It seems like that is just such a strange place 496 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: for us to be right now. And the neighbors, the 497 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: fact that they were joining in on it, I think 498 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: just really adds fuel to that fire that this is 499 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: a completely inappropriate way to do it, that they were 500 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: in on the game. Dog appreciate the time appreciate the work. 501 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: Will continue to follow you and your coverage of these 502 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: potential protests. Appreciate my maam, absolutely, thank you so much 503 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: for having me. Good deal. We got some major breaking 504 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: news that I think some of you are going to 505 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: be intrigued by. It involves Twitter and Elon Musk. Get 506 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: your popcorn. 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Clay and Buck 530 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: show going strong, almost hitting that third hour, So be 531 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: sure you stay with us because in a few minutes 532 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn off Tennessee 533 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: on a whole range of issues to Biden clean up 534 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: on Aisle Biden speech about the economy and inflation. We'll 535 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: talk about that in a few moments with her, as 536 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: well as some other issues. The intimidation of conservative I 537 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: actually prefer to call them constitutional Supreme Court justices because 538 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: that is what they are. The lib justices just earn 539 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: the make it up as they go along category activists 540 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: in judicial robes. But we're gonna get it all that 541 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: here in just a few minutes. Clay just sent me 542 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: this one because we're constant, we're like running a real 543 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: time newsticker between the two of us throughout the entire show. 544 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: Elon Musk has said there's so much which we could 545 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: fill in there By the way, Elon Musk has said 546 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: that if his purchase of Twitter goes through, he will 547 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: lift the ban on president former president Trump. And this 548 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: is interesting because if that's the case, we then have 549 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: a situation where Trump is on on truth social right now, 550 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: and truth social is and I don't say this as 551 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: as a as a knock on them, but truth social 552 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: is at this point less than one percent the user 553 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: the users of Twitter. I think that's is that about, right, Clay. 554 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's maybe it's less than two or 555 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: three percent, but it's a tiny fraction of the overall users. 556 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: And so I mean, I'm on truth, Clays on truth. 557 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: What does the former president do Because that Twitter account, 558 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: the Trump Twitter account, was able to shape the news cycle, 559 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: it was able to change the national conversation. I mean 560 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: that that really I think Trump took Twitter from being 561 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: a a news journo and kind of, you know, a 562 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: superficial scroll through platform. But some people use to the 563 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: heart of the news cycle for a lot of people 564 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Because the President of the 565 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: United States was speaking in real time to eighty million followers, 566 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: what does he do here, Clay? How does this play out? 567 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you you know, when I was doing sports 568 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: talk radio six to nine am Eastern, in that six 569 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: am hour, everybody else was asleep. I sometimes, you know, 570 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: you hit the refresh feed on your Twitter feed and 571 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: it would be like Donald Trump and me. So he 572 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: was not only setting the national agenda buck, he was 573 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: doing it early in the morning before a lot of 574 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: the journalists were even up, and he was tweeting late 575 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: at night and all throughout the day. I mean, this 576 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: guy is an animal when it comes to his work ethic. 577 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: I just think it's a really different So, first of all, 578 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: I think it's smart of Emon Musk, because it sets 579 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: the precedent that banning people, especially permanently banning people who 580 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: are the sitting president of the United States or a 581 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: potential candidate in twenty twenty four, is not a good idea. 582 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: So I think, from Elon Must's perspective, right decision more 583 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: difficult situation. Can Trump join Twitter or is he contractually 584 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: obligated to only use truth social That is the number 585 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 1: one question I would have, because it's likely that they 586 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: have given Trump a lot of money for his exclusivity 587 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: in the social media platform regime. There second part here, 588 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: is he actually benefiting from getting his Twitter account back now? Buck, 589 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: I can totally see the benefit when he was a 590 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: candidate and people were not familiar with what he believed, 591 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: and he didn't have the ability to reach them as 592 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: easily and he could mobilize them. The people who love 593 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: Trump are already active on social media in love with 594 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: Trump right now. Biden is a decrepit old man who 595 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: is failing on all fronts, and so the story is 596 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: Biden stinks. As soon as Trump re emerges the great 597 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: Satan of the Blue check brigade out there, I think 598 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: that it might work against him because in twenty twenty four, 599 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: in an ideal world, you make the case that Biden 600 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: has been bad and doesn't deserve as a part. If 601 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: Biden's running or the Democrats, they don't deserve to be 602 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: back in office. They don't it's a referendum on the incumbent. 603 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: If Trump becomes active again. My concern Buck is twenty 604 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: twenty four is a referendum on Trump again, and Biden 605 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: gets a pass on how bad he's been. So I 606 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: don't know that he benefits. Do you think he benefits? Like, 607 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: how do you analyze this? Ah, that's so hard because 608 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: if you're the advisor, he came to you and he said, Buck, 609 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: should I get back on Twitter? Takeaway for us, it's 610 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: obviously great because we can react to tweets. We're in media. 611 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: But if you are the goal is to win to 612 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: win election, I'm gonna say this and it's and it 613 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: hurts me to say it because because one I used 614 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: I used to love the occasion. You know, the occasional 615 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: Trump retweet was always amazing because all of a sudden, 616 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: some guy that I saw in his sitcom back in 617 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four was cursing at me in all caps. 618 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, how does this person follow the out trater? Oh? 619 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: It's because if Trump retweeted it, So that was always fun. 620 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, it's the guy from Charles and Charge. 621 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: He hates me, now, you know? Or not not that 622 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: show I'm just making one up, but because I think 623 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: Scott Scott Barrows actually he's a conservative, so he's actually 624 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: got a functional brain. Yeah, yeah, he's a good, good 625 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: dude from one I understand. Anyway, I'm just picking a 626 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: random show. Um, but yeah, I think if we're talking 627 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: about what the most likely pathway is for Trump, you know, 628 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: it's Look, I almost feel like it's too early. I 629 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: feel like it's too early to even go here, but 630 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: I will say it anyway. We need a we need 631 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: a Trump two point zero where there's more focus on results, 632 00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: where there's less focus on people that honestly kiss up 633 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: a lot and are actually effective. There were some people 634 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: who were very you know, I'm just saying we had Steve. 635 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: We have Steve Miller on the show a lot. One 636 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: of the reasons why Steve Miller's a smart guy who 637 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: really knows this stuff and was effective in the White House. 638 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean there are others too, but so I'm not 639 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: one of these people says, oh, everybody that was in 640 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: the first administration shouldn't be in the second administration. But 641 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: you need to have good advisors around him that he 642 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: would listen to. And this is basically by long preamble 643 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: for I for him to get for him getting re elected. 644 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if Twitter is actually helpful. I think 645 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: the media then create it feeds into the lib media 646 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: obsession with Trump the man and the person instead of 647 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: the movement, and it just becomes look at this meme 648 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: thing he said, or look at this and it and 649 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: now now people could argue by the way I this 650 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: is one of those things where if someone thinks they 651 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: hear that, they say, Buck are totally wrong. I'll admit 652 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: I may be totally wrong on this one, but I 653 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: think Trump without running his own Twitter account on a 654 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: daily you know, maybe we could limit it. But the 655 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: thing is, Man, once the Trump bear is loose, I 656 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: don't know if you get him back in the cage. 657 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: Man like, once he has that Twitter account back, I 658 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: think he's gonna do what he wants to do. And 659 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,959 Speaker 1: they actually like the idea of having Twitter buck if 660 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: he's reelected, because he's already president. But the actual campaign Twitter, 661 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: I don't know that he benefits because I think it 662 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: allows people to characterize him and start to make the 663 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: case that twenty twenty four is about Trump when the 664 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: reality is and even twenty twenty two if he came 665 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: back sooner than that. When the reality is twenty twenty 666 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: two and twenty twenty four are about Democrats failing on 667 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: an epic level. Nothing Republicans have done has caused where 668 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: we are right now. I'm gonna talk to Senator Marsha 669 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: Blackburn here in a few minutes about that failure by 670 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: the Biden administration, where's the economy heading? And much more 671 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: Stick around Clay and Buck rolling through slat Travis and 672 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth,