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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where our suitcases

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Speaker 1: are wide open and close are fucking everywhere. It's time

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Speaker 1: to pack for the Olympics, y'all. It's Monday, February second,

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Speaker 1: Happy Black History Month. On today's show, Olympic distance runners

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Speaker 1: and co hosts of The Nobody Asked US podcasts Carra

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Speaker 1: Goucher and Des Linden join us to offer up their

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Speaker 1: advice for members of Team USA headed to Milan, Courtina

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Speaker 1: to talk about how competing at the Games differs from

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Speaker 1: other major championships, and share a behind the scenes detail

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Speaker 1: about the opening ceremony festivities that will leave you gagged

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Speaker 1: or gagging, or maybe both. We've done this before on

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Speaker 1: the show. Get an Olympian from the other Games Summer

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Speaker 1: or Winter on the show to explain what athletes prepin

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Speaker 1: for the current Games might be feeling right now as

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Speaker 1: competition approaches. It's always great perspective. Plus, Unrivaled took Philly

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Speaker 1: by storm this weekend and I was there to witness

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Speaker 1: it all. My recap of the Games, the crowd, the

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Speaker 1: heartwarming homecomings, and a showing from Marina Maybrey that left

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Speaker 1: NBA players courtside celebs and twenty one thousand plus others

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Speaker 1: in AWE. It's all coming up right after this welcome

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Speaker 1: back slices. Here's what you need to know today. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with Unrivaled. The three v three Basketball League held

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Speaker 1: its first ever tour stop over the weekend in Philly

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Speaker 1: and made some history in the process. Twenty one thousand,

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Speaker 1: four hundred and ninety fans, including yours truly, gathered at

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Speaker 1: Xfinity Mobile Arena on Friday night, marking a new all

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Speaker 1: time attendance record for a regular season women's professional basketball

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Speaker 1: game like in history. Ever, it was also the highest

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Speaker 1: attended event in the venues history, which is home to

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Speaker 1: the NHL's Philadelphia Flyers and mnba's seventy six ers. That

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Speaker 1: smaller sized Unrivaled court allowed for a few more seats

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Speaker 1: ladies now hold the top spot in a venue that's

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Speaker 1: hosted a whole lot of hoops and hockey history. In

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Speaker 1: Friday's games, Phantom BC defeated Breeze seventy one sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: That was game one of the doubleheader, and and then

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Speaker 1: on Friday's festivities. In just a bit to tennis, where

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Speaker 1: we have our first Grand Slam winner of the year.

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Speaker 1: Elena Rebaccino won the singles title at the Australian Open

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Speaker 1: The final was a rematch of the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: Ossi Open finals, which Sablenka won. Saturday's win was Rebakkana's

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Speaker 1: first title in Melbourne and her second Grand Slam victory overall.

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Speaker 1: She won Wimbledon back in twenty twenty two. She'll reportedly

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Speaker 1: take home nearly three million dollars in prize money. Screw

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Speaker 1: the nice weather and the good vibes. Maybe that three

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Speaker 1: million is why they call it the Happy Slam. In

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Speaker 1: double Jeongshui and Elisa Mechten's emerge victorious, it was their

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Speaker 1: first Grand Slam trophy as a team. They came up

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Speaker 1: just short at Wimbledon in twenty twenty two, falling in

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Speaker 1: the finals there. Their os Open win earns them a

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Speaker 1: prize pot to split of more than six hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: The next Grand Slam is the French open in May

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Speaker 1: to Milan, where hundreds of demonstrators gathered on Saturday to

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Speaker 1: upcoming Winter Olympics. According to reports, protesters fittingly gathered in

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Speaker 1: a piazza named after the twenty fifth of April, the

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Speaker 1: date of Italy's liberation from Nazi fascism in nineteen forty five.

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Speaker 1: At the protest on Saturday, there were signs similar to

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Speaker 1: those seen at US rallies, reading ice out now, but

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Speaker 1: there was also at least one sign with a bit

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Speaker 1: more of an Italian flair, reading ice only in sprits.

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Speaker 1: At a press conference in Milan on Sunday, International Olympic

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Speaker 1: Committee President Kirsty Coventry tried to avoid the topic, but

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Speaker 1: when asked again, Coventry said it was sad that news

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Speaker 1: of ice at the Games was taking attention away from

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Speaker 2: Here's Coventry, We've learned over the many years, there has

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Speaker 2: always been something that has taken the lead leading up

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Speaker 2: to the Games. Whether it has been communities, whether it's

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Speaker 2: been Zica, COVID, there has always been something. But what

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Speaker 2: is keeping my faith alive. Is that when that opening

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Speaker 2: ceremony happens and those athletes start competing, suddenly the wild

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Speaker 2: remembers the magic and the spirit that the games have,

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Speaker 2: and they get to suddenly remember what's actually important, and

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Speaker 1: That what's actually important. Wow, As a mega, super duper

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Speaker 1: can't imagine considering the games more important than the murder

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Speaker 1: the widespread, blatant, sickening, ever worsening cover up of child rape. Truly,

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Speaker 1: fuck this statement and anyone who can't hold both things

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Vaughn has been dealt a tough hand less than

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Speaker 1: World Cup race on Friday in Switzerland, Vaughn's final downhill

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Speaker 1: race before the Games, she crashed and injured her left knee.

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Speaker 1: in part quote, this is a very difficult outcome one

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Speaker 1: week before the Olympics. But if there's one thing I

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Speaker 1: know how to do, it's a comeback. My Olympic dream

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Speaker 1: So we're all hoping for her return to the to golf.

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Speaker 1: Nellie Cordo won the Tournament of Champions on Sunday, the

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Speaker 1: LPGA's season opener The competition held that Lake Nona Country

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Speaker 1: in professional golf end quote to the WNBA, The league

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Speaker 1: Per ESPN's Alexa Philippoo, the PA still hasn't received an

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Speaker 1: Arsenal beat the Corinthians three to two on Sunday to

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Speaker 1: tournament will take place in twenty twenty eight. Finally, more soccer,

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Speaker 1: the hit Apple TV show ted Lasso is coming back

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Speaker 1: need this feel good show back in our lives anymore. Slices,

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Speaker 1: unrivaled weekend in Philadelphia, and frankly, it's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: to put into words just how magical Friday Night was.

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Speaker 1: Lunar Owls game against ROSEBC. Like I gotta be honest

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Speaker 1: From tip off, Marina was a woman possessed huge building,

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Speaker 3: like the call room is earlier, and then where you

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Speaker 3: have to say goodbye to your coaches is earlier. So

431
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Speaker 3: it's like, I just remember the first race I ran

432
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: there was the ten thousand, and by the time we

433
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,239
Speaker 3: got on the track, I was cold. I mean it

434
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 3: wasn't freezing because it was in Beijing, but like my

435
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 3: warm up had come and gone, you know, yeah, and

436
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: I had been sitting around for so long.

437
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 4: So it's just stuff like that that your.

438
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 3: Normal routine is not there, and it's good to like

439
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 3: be prepared for that, like Dez said, be flexible and

440
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: just know that everyone's in the same situation that you're in.

441
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: Like no one's.

442
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 3: Actually able to warm up how they really want to

443
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 3: and need to, and just trying to not make it

444
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 3: so it's just you that's suffering.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel like it would affect the most

446
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: people who have superstitions, Oh yeah, who are like this

447
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: needs to be exactly ninety minutes, and then this at

448
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, and then this has to because like

449
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: that's going to get disrupted and you have to convince

450
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Speaker 1: yourself that has nothing to do with whether you compete

451
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: well or not, which is hard especially I know for

452
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Speaker 1: a lot of track athletes there's a lot of those

453
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Speaker 1: little nitpicky things caer What do you think is the

454
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Speaker 1: most difficult non competition aspect of being at the Olympics.

455
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Speaker 3: You know, it's so exciting and you want to see

456
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 3: things Like I went to opening ceremonies the first time.

457
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to experience that.

458
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: It took a lot out of me.

459
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: I was shocked, you know, because I just thought we'd

460
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: pull up, walk around the track, watch the guy light

461
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Speaker 3: the door to me leave, and it ended up being

462
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: like a seven hour ordal or whatever. So I think

463
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Speaker 3: just like trying to enjoy the things about being there,

464
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 3: but also protecting your energy and your piece because you

465
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 3: are there to perform. It's like trying to get your

466
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Speaker 3: family to the village to visit, or trying to meet

467
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 3: up with your family or all that kind of stuff

468
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: can get really stressful and you have to sort of

469
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Speaker 3: manage like, yes, it's the Olympics and I want to

470
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Speaker 3: do all this stuff, but at the same time, it's

471
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Speaker 3: the Olympics and I want to perform the best I can.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Does I imagine trying to like just handle

473
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Speaker 1: all the requests from friends and family, even sponsor obligations,

474
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,239
Speaker 1: just all the well wishing, as well intended as that is,

475
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 1: can be overwhelming. Is that the hardest non competition aspect

476
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Speaker 1: in your mind? Or is there something else?

477
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Speaker 6: No, you asked that, and I was going to say family,

478
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 6: like without a doubt, because it's just it's a big

479
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 6: moment for them too. And even in preparation, my first

480
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 6: Olympic experience didn't go while I was dinged up trying

481
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 6: to fight through an injury just to get to the start.

482
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Speaker 5: And then you have your family being like are you excited?

483
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 5: Are you going to go for the gold?

484
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: Is?

485
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 6: Like this is where we're staying. Can you meet up,

486
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 6: can you get us tickets? And there's all these different things,

487
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 6: and you want to be helpful and you want to

488
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 6: make sure people who have invested in your entire career,

489
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 6: who are spending money to go over and watch you,

490
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 6: have a good time. But also it's way more than

491
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Speaker 6: any other event that you do. Like typically if you're

492
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Speaker 6: doing a World Marathon Major or something like that, it's like, yeah,

493
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 6: here's some VIP stuff, go on your way, and then

494
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 6: it's you know, your agent's there at coaches there, and

495
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 6: everyone's pretty close by to kind of be the buffer.

496
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Speaker 6: I feel like the buffer kind of deteriorates a little

497
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Speaker 6: bit with the games.

498
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you have certain family members who are like,

499
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Speaker 1: I forgot to bring adapt and I can't plug my

500
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: phone and are like I can't understand this. Can you

501
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: read it? You can you translate? I just oh, oh,

502
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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about all the stress, even if they're

503
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Speaker 1: meaning well and trying to be supportive. Did you have

504
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: a specific item does that you needed to bring from home,

505
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Speaker 1: whether it was for luck or comfort or otherwise that

506
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: you were like, this needs to be in the bag.

507
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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

508
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm one of those pretty adaptable people.

509
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 6: The carry on was just raised kit and shoes, which

510
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 6: is nice to have like your normal shoes and not

511
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 6: be like you get all the kit in the gear

512
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 6: and it's branded by the Olympic sponsors, but your shoes

513
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 6: are like sacred, so you get to bring your branded stuff. Yeah,

514
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 6: that's that's the only thing I needed.

515
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Speaker 4: Yeah what about you, Kara, Yeah, pretty much the same.

516
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you're just getting so much stuff, and it's

517
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: like you don't get to choose what you wear, right,

518
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 3: you're wearing the Olympic uniform when you get to choose

519
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Speaker 3: which uniform you wear. But the things that really matter

520
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: to you are your shoes. I do remember in London

521
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: we didn't have enough diapers for COLT, which has nothing

522
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: to do with competition, but so we went over TOVNNG

523
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: house and like they were so awesome, like they let

524
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: my family eat there, they gave us all these diapers.

525
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: So there's there are people like supporting you. But yeah,

526
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 3: I don't have any really good luck charms, just you know,

527
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 3: just dialed in.

528
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Speaker 1: Well, things like diapers you can find, right. I remember

529
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: I went to a Junior Olympics and I forgot to

530
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: pack any underwear so that was a problem, Like immediately

531
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: just had to go with my dad, who was like,

532
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: so awkward to buy underwear. But I'm thinking more like

533
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: a pillow. I'm thinking about when I competed. I would

534
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: get so frustrated if we were at an away meat

535
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: and the beds were uncomfortable, I would just lie there

536
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: and think about how it was going to make me

537
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: perform poorly. So I wonder, for like athlete village, if

538
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: there's things that you need to bring that you feel like,

539
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: I need this for comfort otherwise I'm going to stress

540
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: about it affected me as an athlete. Did either of

541
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Speaker 1: you have that?

542
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Speaker 3: I definitely brought a fan, but I bought one in

543
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Speaker 3: China and then I bought one in London. I can't

544
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Speaker 3: sleep without a fan, not because I don't want it

545
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: blowing on my body, but the noise I can't ess.

546
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Speaker 3: And so yeah, I bought one in both places. My

547
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: husband found one for me in China and then we

548
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Speaker 3: bought one in London together.

549
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Speaker 1: So nothing does Wow, I'm impressed, easy peasy.

550
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: No.

551
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Speaker 6: I think if I was going to give myself advice

552
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 6: in hindsight, it maybe like earplugs because you don't know

553
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Speaker 6: who you're rooming with.

554
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Speaker 5: It's a sweet situation.

555
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 6: So there's people, a bunch of people you've never met before,

556
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 6: kind of rotating in and out.

557
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: Maybe just earplugs, but really I didn't realize that. So

558
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: you're sharing rooms or like sweet type of style rooms

559
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: with people that you're assigned to. Yeah, oh my god,

560
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: you guys stressing me out.

561
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: So I mean, you can request your roommate, but your

562
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: actual suite like is and you only get that roommate.

563
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 4: If you like both request each other.

564
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: But then yeah, there's there's gonna be other people in

565
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Speaker 3: there that maybe you don't like even you know what

566
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: I mean that that you compete against.

567
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'll team USA.

568
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 3: But it's like people that maybe you you know, compete

569
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 3: with against for those spots and then you're like, hey,

570
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: now we're like bunking together, we're besties.

571
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Speaker 5: Good luck out there.

572
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: I mean, does I just feel like I remember again,

573
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Speaker 1: even in college, like I was very aware of whether

574
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Speaker 1: I was going to end up with a roommate who

575
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: stayed up too late, or who partied a lot, or

576
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: who snored or like anything that would mess with my

577
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: schedule for competing. That's such a wild unknown factor. That

578
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: you have no control over when you get there. Have

579
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: you did either of you have an experience with someone

580
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: who was loud or disrespectful in the general like athlete

581
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: village or suite area, not.

582
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 5: Loud or disrespectful.

583
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing was like timing of events,

584
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 6: because marathon's obviously starts early in the morning, but you

585
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 6: could have track finishing up late at night. Then they

586
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 6: get drug tested, and then their competition's done, and then

587
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 6: they get back it's two in the morning, and they're like,

588
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 6: you know, like you're amped, right, Like that makes total

589
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 6: sense when I'm almost like, hey, I got to get

590
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 6: up in a couple hours. But I mean that's kind

591
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 6: of stuff. Again, your plugs, I think probably would have

592
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 6: solved that.

593
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is making me so stressed out.

594
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

595
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: My roommate in Beijing, she was great. We ran totally

596
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: different events. She was a steeple chaser, but she was great,

597
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: super understanding, would go to the dining hall with me

598
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 3: and then to be totally honest.

599
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: In London, I actually had a hotel.

600
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't blame you.

601
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

602
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: I just walked over to the start and I just

603
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: was like, I want to simplify my life. I want

604
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: to get myself the best chance to run well here.

605
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: So, yeah, did you guys decorate your room? I'm thinking

606
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: about these suites now, and I certainly hear about people

607
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: who will bring maybe a poster signed by the folks

608
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: back home or something that makes it feel a little

609
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: bit more interesting than just this blend sort of dorm

610
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: room vibe. Des did you put anything on the walls

611
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: or anything like that?

612
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 5: Nothing on the walls.

613
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 6: I feel like they kid it out super well, Like

614
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 6: you know, like the comforter is a big thing. It's

615
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 6: like designed for the games and you take it with you.

616
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 6: My dogs have like the best beds because they that

617
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 6: have these Olympic comforters.

618
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 5: So that's cool.

619
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 6: And then you have all your gear that you get,

620
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 6: so it feels pretty special. I'm sure about like a

621
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 6: card or two from someone back home and I was like, yeah,

622
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 6: this is this is cool.

623
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 5: But nothing on the walls specifically.

624
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: That's cool. I think I've mostly seen pictures before a

625
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: team gets in and puts all that stuff in, so

626
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: that's why it looks so boring. But now I'm picturing

627
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: it where you've got like the before and after of

628
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: some spoiled brat's little college room where they're like, here's

629
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: what it looked like. And then we went to Urh

630
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what, I don't know if you guys

631
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: have been witnessing this like lately college kids, I'm like,

632
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: what have we been doing here? But so, Kara, when

633
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: you get there, it looks like, hey, this is set

634
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: for an Olympian. I'm ready. This is pretty cool. Yeah.

635
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: One of the cool things about Beijing is they had

636
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: like elementary aged kids draw these big things and these

637
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: really big portraits and what the Olympics meant to them,

638
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: and so they were like framed and above each of

639
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: the beds and actually brought that home.

640
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: Because it's huge too. But it just was like so

641
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: cool that these kids, you know, thousands of kids made these.

642
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: Really cool pieces of artwork. So it was just like

643
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: a nice little touch. And yeah, like Dez said, the

644
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: rooms are pretty kitted out. I never slept on the

645
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: cardboard bed, but you know, those are like a big hit.

646
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: We got to take a quick break more with Dez

647
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: and Kara. When we come back. People talk about the

648
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: athlete Village. The stories that mostly come out are all

649
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: usually about how the condom are always gone. And I

650
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: know some Olympians who have told me their own personal spicyes,

651
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: tales of meeting with athletes from other countries and having

652
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: their Olympic fun. Did you guys witness much of that?

653
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: And how do you balance the fact that somebody might

654
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: be finishing their dream and needing to let off a

655
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: whole lot of steam and other people in the same

656
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: area are still waiting to get started. Is that like

657
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: crossing paths? Thing happened a lot? Does does it feel like?

658
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: I think it's mixed.

659
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 6: I bet more during the middle, like as swimmers are

660
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 6: finishing and track athletes are coming in, or as track

661
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 6: events are finishing up. I think the marathons are predominantly

662
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 6: the last two days of the event, because typically the

663
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 6: marathon finishes up the whole games and it's on the track,

664
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 6: and then they do the awards ceremony, they closing ceremonies,

665
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 6: it's just tradition. And by that time, most people are

666
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 6: wanting to get out of the village because everything's breaking down, like.

667
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 5: This wasn't meant for long term.

668
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 6: So they're going out and meeting up with friends, staying

669
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 6: in hotels, and so it does get it almost gets

670
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 6: quiet by the end.

671
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 5: It was my experience.

672
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it kind of that it built a

673
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: little bit of like I would say, it did get louder.

674
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 3: It seemed like every day a little bit like not

675
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: necessarily in my room, but just outside, and you would

676
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 3: hear people being outside later and later each night. But

677
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: then it does sort of like it crests and then

678
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: people start leaving and so it gets quieter again. But

679
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: I mean, like people are they compete on the first

680
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: day or the second or the third, and they don't

681
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: have to leave, right Like you can stay in the

682
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: village and experience the Olympics and you can't fault someone

683
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: for wanting.

684
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: To be there. But they're also like childhood dream accomplished.

685
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 4: Now it's time to let loose, you know. So there

686
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 4: is a lot of partying and stuff that goes on.

687
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: For sure, how would we get alon of Mar's chocolate

688
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: muffin content if you weren't allowed to just hang out

689
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: on the side, right, we need the good stuff. Speaking

690
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: of that, do you guys have any juicy stories you

691
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: want to share?

692
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 6: I don't care's clearly got something no see it?

693
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: No, this is so old, like think back, This is

694
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: almost twenty years ago when I ran.

695
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: In my first Olympics.

696
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, no is we met the dream team, right,

697
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: and then yeah yeah, And then there was some like

698
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: crazy stuff that happened to me after that of like people,

699
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: one person in particular, trying to get my number and

700
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: being like I'm like, I'm married, and he's like, but

701
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: is he here?

702
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 4: You know?

703
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: And I was just like, how is this my life?

704
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: Like I'm a nerdy runner. I just want to run.

705
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: But I think they weren't at the village. This was

706
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: at the opening ceremonies, but I think, you know, like

707
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: you get these crazy things of athletes that would never

708
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: normally be around each other. I remember like walking to

709
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: get the dining hall and seeing the Serena and Venus Williams,

710
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: seeing the sisters, and I was like, oh my god,

711
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: Like I so badly want to go ask them for

712
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: a photo, but I like that would be weird because

713
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: we're in the village.

714
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: You know, we're all supposed to be like equals. But yeah,

715
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: like my eyes were like, oh my gosh, it's the

716
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: William's sisters, you know.

717
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: So I always love when we get the photos of

718
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: like the gymnasts with the NBA players. Yeah, and you

719
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: just are like, both of these people are the very

720
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: best at what they do and they don't even look

721
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: like they're in any way the same. All right, Well,

722
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: when we stop recording, we'll get some names from you

723
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: about who is sliding into your DMS. I know there's

724
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: plenty of stories about the men's basketball team because like

725
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: one year they had a boat that they stayed on

726
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: instead of the athlete village. So I know Sue Bird

727
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: and some of the women's players have talked about going

728
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: to party on their boat. I feel like we need

729
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: some more athlete memoirs that really dig into the experience,

730
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: or just a book just about the Olympic Village and

731
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: everything that goes on there. What are some behind the

732
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: scenes aspects of the games most folks don't know about,

733
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 1: like the pin trading culture or things that like if

734
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: you're an athlete, you kind of come back and you're

735
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: like that was a big part of the experience that

736
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: you never see on TV. Is there anything that comes

737
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: to mind?

738
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: Does?

739
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I think the experience of the village is

740
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 6: really unique, and that's kind of where a lot of

741
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 6: mixing up happens. Like you're just mixing it up with

742
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 6: athletes from all over the world and they're the best

743
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 6: you see them on TV, and then it's like you're

744
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 6: sharing the same buffet lunch together, which is kind of crazy.

745
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 6: So I think that stands out. The village itself is

746
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 6: like highlighting whoever the sponsors are of it, but also everything.

747
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 6: You just walk around with the carb and like swipe

748
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 6: for what you want, so you kind of feel like

749
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 6: you're rich the whole time. Okay, I'll take two lattes.

750
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 6: Why wouldn't I? Ok at the oat milk? Why wouldn't I?

751
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 6: Which I never get at home. Kara's probably got some

752
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 6: better ones.

753
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 5: What do you think?

754
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: No, I don't have better ones.

755
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: I just think it's I do think there is like

756
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: a pin trading culture, which is pretty cool. But I

757
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: just think the way that all the athletes, like regardless

758
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: of country or even sport, just kind of like appreciate

759
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: each other. I remember there Lolo Jones had a big

760
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 3: Red Bull party after in Beijing, and Adam and I went,

761
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: and there were like so many athletes there, like from

762
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: all the different sports and from all the different countries,

763
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: and like everyone's very competitive and everybody wants to do

764
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: the best they can, but then there is definitely this

765
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: camaraderie afterwards.

766
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 4: I felt that a lot in the opening ceremonies too.

767
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: One thing I'll say that would probably shock people is that.

768
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: The opening ceremonies take so long and there's just people

769
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: peen everywhere, like I mean, I don't know about the

770
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 3: Winter one. I've never experienced that, but.

771
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: People just like peeing all over the place, like during

772
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: the opening ceremonies.

773
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: It's crazy on the track or the facility floor. Yeah,

774
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: how do they so there's no restaurant to run after.

775
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: You're just supposed to be there for hours.

776
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 3: Once you're out there, you're out there, right and for security,

777
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: you can't like leave and come back. It's like you're

778
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: out there and I was shocked. I would like look

779
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: one way and see like these people from Spain, Peanut

780
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: like this way, a bunch of us people, and it

781
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: was just it blew my mind because we want this,

782
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: We've waited our whole lives to be here. But then

783
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: it was like the reality of like no one's been

784
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: able to go to the bathroom for five hours. The

785
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: guys are just going like they were like we're done,

786
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 3: We're going so yeah, it's kind of crazy.

787
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: Guys will be like have to pee for a minute

788
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, I'm just gonna go ahead and right.

789
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: Like women, it's like you got to really be pretty

790
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: desperate to be like I'm gonna go squat in front

791
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: of thousands of the best athletes. But hey, I'm actually

792
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: not that surprised to hear that, because it is like

793
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: a really long time to be held captive there. You're

794
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: talking about the opening ceremony, and I'm wondering US athletes

795
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: should probably be prepared for their contingent to get booed

796
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: at this year's opening ceremony. That's going to be tough. Karen,

797
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: would you have advice in that situation.

798
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: I really feel for the athletes because any energy that

799
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: isn't focused on.

800
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: Just what you're there to do, is it steals.

801
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: Right Like Jesse Diggins had a post the other day,

802
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: I think on her Instagram story saying like I want

803
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: to be excited. I'm just so heartworken, like you know,

804
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: and like she should be able to just be excited.

805
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: I think that it is a year where politically things

806
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: are really unruly, and I think that the US athletes

807
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: might get booed. I also think they're going to get

808
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: asked about a lot of stuff, and my advice to

809
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 3: them would just be, like, be ready for that. Don't

810
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 3: let it catch you off guard. You can put it

811
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: aside and it's super acceptable, Like I'm here to compete.

812
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm happy to discuss that later or whatever it is

813
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: you want to say, but don't let that steal your focus,

814
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: because just be for it, you know. And Yeah, I

815
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: am a little worried about the way that they'll be

816
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: treated and asked questions, and I just hope that they're

817
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: able to face it and then and then put it

818
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: aside and focus on what they're there to do.

819
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I agree with you, and I talked

820
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: about this on a previous show, like it's so unfair

821
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: for this particular moment in their lives, for all they've

822
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: worked for, to be clouded by this. And yet also

823
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: there's this kind of give and take, like you're benefiting

824
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: from all the traditions and structures and investments and everything

825
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: that the US has given you, so to not speak

826
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: up in a time like this when it is so

827
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: apparent that Americans' rights are being infringed upon, that we're

828
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: at threat of our democracy failing also feels like it's

829
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: not the right answer. So I think I would steal

830
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: from your answer to be ready for it and to

831
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: have something ready, even if it's a prepared sentence or

832
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: statement that includes I'm not going to speak on this again,

833
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: but I will say this that to me feels better

834
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: than simply I just want to focus on my race,

835
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: because how right, and even if we all still have

836
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: to go to our jobs and do our work. I

837
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: don't know that we would want to hear that from

838
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: someone from Russia competing while they're bombing Ukraine. I don't

839
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: know that we'd want to hear that from an Israeli

840
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: athlete with what's going on in Gozla, Like I don't

841
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: know that. Like we're the bad guy, and it's hard

842
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: to just avoid that. What do you think does Yeah?

843
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 6: I mean I think that each athlete's going to have

844
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 6: to figure that out themselves. But I do know that

845
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 6: Team USA did in the prior years, does media training

846
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 6: with them. You know, they'll sit them down and prepare

847
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 6: them for that moment and help them figure out what

848
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 6: that statement might be. I'm not going to do it

849
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 6: for them, but whatever is going to make their life

850
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 6: easier there, and for a lot of athletes, that's tapping

851
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 6: into the situation in the moment and saying, hey, I

852
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 6: have this platform, this is what I want to say,

853
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 6: and so maybe that's a motivator for them. So I

854
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 6: think every athlete has their own way of handling it,

855
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 6: and I do think that USOC USOPC will help them

856
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 6: fure out what that statement is so they're prepared.

857
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: That's so true, and I think the key is to

858
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: be ready for it so that it doesn't knock you

859
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: off your expectations and your preparation. Okay, so we've talked

860
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: about the surprises of the opening ceremony. Everyone's taken a piss.

861
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: When you get to the end, it's over whether you've

862
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: done better than imagined, whether you've done worse. Almost across

863
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: the board, people seem to talk about the post Olympic letdown.

864
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: Did you experience it does? Were you surprised and how

865
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: did you process it?

866
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

867
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 6: I did two Olympics and the first one was kind

868
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 6: of compounded because I just didn't have the race I

869
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 6: wanted and I had an injury and it was like,

870
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 6: oh do I even want to do this for four

871
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 6: more years? So that was just a lot to weigh

872
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 6: in on, and I mean, it is real, but it

873
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 6: makes you really commit or recommit, like, Okay, I am

874
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 6: in this for four more years. Got to be patient,

875
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 6: got to figure it out. And then the second time,

876
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 6: I felt just a lot of gratitude. Wanted to be

877
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 6: able to have had that second experience and go well

878
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 6: and to still be in the sport and all of

879
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 6: those things. So it was a little different. Little it

880
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: was like, this was the dream accomplished. I know what

881
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 6: it's like when it doesn't go right. And so that

882
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 6: second time, it was more like, okay, this is anything

883
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 6: after this part of my career is gravy.

884
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 5: So I think that that took a little bit of

885
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: it away, but it's.

886
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 6: It's a real thing, and I think people who try

887
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 6: to avoid it or just jump right into the next

888
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 6: thing and not at least confront it a little bit

889
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 6: end up struggling with it at some point or another.

890
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Quite a lesson non gratitude too. The idea of

891
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: the first time, it's like, well, this was supposed to happen.

892
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: I was supposed to get to the Olympics, and now

893
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm pissed because it's not what I wanted, and the

894
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: second time saying, Okay, there's no guarantees, like and I

895
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: got here. Now I'm going to be grateful and enjoy

896
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: it for what it is regardless. It's hard to do

897
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: that though, without going through the full process first to

898
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: get there. It's hard to you know, force that without

899
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: it being organic.

900
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 3: What about you, Kara, Yeah, honestly, sort of similar to Dez.

901
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 3: I was a metal favorite in eight and I didn't medal,

902
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: and so I was just like really devastated, and I

903
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: kind of like shifted gears. I'm going to run the

904
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: New York City Marathon in eight weeks. And so then

905
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: my post Olympic depression came after that because once that

906
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: was over, even though that went well, I was like,

907
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 3: and that's what's crazy, is like it can go well

908
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: and you still just feel like that's something you've been

909
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 3: thinking about your whole life and preparing for your whole life,

910
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: and you think it's gonna like somehow fulfill you. But

911
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: it's just another event, you know what I mean. And

912
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: then the second time, I was a mom and I

913
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: did feel a lot of gratitude that my son got

914
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: to be there and stuff. My race wasn't bad it

915
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: wasn't great. It was just sort of like I checked

916
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: all the boxes, I ran solid, but I still felt

917
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: pretty low afterwards. Like even in the race when I

918
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: realized the metals were running away from me, I was like,

919
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: you're so happy to be here, You're so lucky to

920
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: do this. But yeah, even that, I just felt I

921
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: don't know. I think again, it's like something you think

922
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: about for so so so long, like every year, maybe

923
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: there's the New York City Marathon, or there's the track

924
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: and field trials or whatever it is, but the Olympics

925
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: you wait for for so long, and it's like that's

926
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: what gets you out of bed, that's what gets you

927
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: through the injuries, and so then when it's over, it's

928
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: just sort of I don't know. I had definitely had

929
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: a hard time both times.

930
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're someone who enjoys the anticipation of things,

931
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: that's also part of it. Yeah. I mean I felt

932
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: that way about my wedding. Even I loved planning it.

933
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: I spent a year and a half planning it was over.

934
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: It was like really sad that I didn't have this

935
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: thing to look forward to anymore and it was done,

936
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: and that's not putting the weight of my work and

937
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: accomplishments into it. That's just a wedding. So I know

938
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: the Olympic let down carries so much for people, and

939
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: to your point, for a lot of people who haven't

940
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: figured out what's bugging them or what they need to fix,

941
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: and so they think winning the Olympics will and then

942
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: they get the gold and they're like, oh shit, it

943
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: wasn't that. Back to the drawing board. A couple last

944
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: questions for you. What's it like to watch the Olympics?

945
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: You've been in their shoes and now you're just are

946
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: you crazy? Nervous? Is it cool? Because you know, no

947
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: skin off your back if nothing goes right? Deays? Are you?

948
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: What's the vibe?

949
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 6: I just get excited, like I'll be in front of

950
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 6: the TV. It's crazy how really big sports moments make

951
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 6: us like the biggest couch potatoes, because that's what I'm

952
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 6: gonna be while the games around, just like watching everything

953
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 6: and you learn all these new sports and by the

954
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 6: end you're like, I can't believe that Curler did that,

955
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 6: Like why would I don't know anything about it?

956
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 5: So I'm I just get amped.

957
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 6: I think it's so fun to watch obviously the athletics,

958
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 6: but also just hear the stories of amazing athletes what

959
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 6: their you know, path was to get to that moment.

960
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 6: So the storytelling is incredibly good as well. And so yeah,

961
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 6: I think it's I don't like missing any of it.

962
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, just straight up excitement for you too, Kara.

963
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I grew up an Olympic watching family.

964
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: I mean I remember like being super into figure skating

965
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: and my mom picking me up from school and she I.

966
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 4: Was like, what happened?

967
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: What happened?

968
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: You know, like did she follow to Christiyama, Gucci Win

969
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: or Nancy Kerrigan or whatever, And so I just think

970
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: there's always been excitement around that. A couple of years ago,

971
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: after the last Winter Olympics, so I guess it was

972
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: four years ago, my son was like, well, now what

973
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: are we going to watch? And I love that, like

974
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: I have like graduated him to that family. But personally,

975
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: I think twenty sixteen was really hard for me to

976
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 3: watch the Olympics because I missed the team by one

977
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: spot and I had a hard time watching that games.

978
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: But then in twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, I

979
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: was on the commentating team and it just brought a

980
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: lot of joy, and yeah, I'm excited about the Winter Olympics.

981
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: I just love it.

982
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: It takes me back to being a kid and just like,

983
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 3: does that all of a sudden, I'm I'm an expert

984
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: at figure skating, Like no, I'm.

985
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 4: Not, but I'm like, oh, that's gonna be a lot

986
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 4: of points. She nailed that.

987
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, speaking of the Winter Olympics, there are so

988
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: many wild sports in that and I know a lot

989
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: of folks cannot even imagine running a marathon. They think

990
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: y'all are nuts for wanting to go out there and

991
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: just keep running. So what Winter Olympic sport are you

992
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: guys watching and thinking, Okay, these people are nuts? I

993
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: mean like.

994
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: Most of them, right right, I mean they're like even

995
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: the the slalom skiers, they're going so fast the skeleton.

996
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 3: The skeleton is like insane, like you're just going head

997
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: first on this little slide. And then, even though I

998
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: grew up with this lifelong love of figure skating, I'm

999
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 3: still scared when I watch it because it's so danger

1000
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: So I just feel like, I feel like the Winter

1001
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: Olympics you have to have this little bit of like

1002
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: you don't have this fear factor. You can really just

1003
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: put that fear that I would have and they just

1004
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 3: I don't know if they don't have it, but they're

1005
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 3: just able to set it aside and perform.

1006
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible.

1007
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're full on adrenaline junkies and they're wearing like tights,

1008
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 6: like I feel like you need we're padding for this.

1009
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: Does it make sense right?

1010
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: Well, there's a new one called ski mountaineering that's going

1011
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: to be in this Winter Olympics that I think is

1012
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: like just wild. You're tracking up around mountain, whisky's on

1013
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: your back and then skiing down as fast as possible.

1014
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: It was just like a way to get up and

1015
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: down mountains. And now they're like, let's make it a sport,

1016
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: which sounds kind of like the winter version of trail

1017
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: running and like ultra marathons, which is what you do now.

1018
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: Does trail running not an Olympic sport, but some people

1019
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: are asking for it to be added in twenty thirty two?

1020
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: Do you think they should think about adding either of

1021
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: those trail running or ultra marathons to the Olympics.

1022
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 3: You want me to answer, Yeah, I think that they

1023
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: should be adding cross country first, cross country is a

1024
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 3: sport that should be added, and I think I actually

1025
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 3: think it could be argued that it should be a

1026
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: winter sport. The Olympics are tricky, right, because everybody wants

1027
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: their thing added, and sometimes it's just like, do we

1028
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: really need all these different sports that are.

1029
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 4: Kind of the same thing.

1030
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: But I'm I'm always four more running being added into

1031
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 3: the Olympics. I think like we have that in cycling.

1032
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: Now there's like mountain biking in the Olympics, so it

1033
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: is a different sport. Running on the mountains is a

1034
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: very different sport than running on a track, So I'm

1035
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: all for it.

1036
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Does Why did you defer that answer to your good

1037
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: friend Carol, I.

1038
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 6: Just wanted to see what she would say. She's like, no,

1039
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 6: that's just like jogging. They're hiking. I wasn't sure. No,

1040
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 6: I think it would be interesting. I actually would almost

1041
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 6: prefer if we went track road running, maybe ten k

1042
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 6: half marathon, full marathon, make road running separate, and then

1043
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 6: I would move to that before adding ultra or mountain.

1044
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 6: And I think that ultra mountains like pretty it's not

1045
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 6: that accessible, right, Like you have to live in very

1046
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 6: specific places, and it seems like it's a very typically

1047
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 6: like pretty wealthy towns that you're going to and getting to.

1048
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 5: So just caught the barrier to entries a little bit

1049
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 5: higher than you know.

1050
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 6: Road running seems like a safer place to start in

1051
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 6: my opinion.

1052
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: And Kara mentioned cross country. There is talk of it

1053
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 1: being a Winter Olympic sport, in part because it would

1054
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: open up the Games to way more nations than the

1055
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: normal snow and ice sports. Would you be down for

1056
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: a Winter Olympics cross country event?

1057
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 5: That'd be amazing.

1058
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 6: I think everyone's pretty much lobbying for that, and I agree,

1059
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 6: like get more African nations to the Winter Olympics exposure

1060
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 6: is great, and yeah, I just think it would be

1061
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 6: really cool.

1062
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: Okay, last one, we see lots of former track and

1063
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: field athletes in winter sports. We got Miss Deigro, used

1064
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: to be a sprinter, now she's a skeleton athlete. We've

1065
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: got a Notre dame former heptathlete who's now a Bob's letter.

1066
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: Anna Gibson made the Usalympic trial semifinals in fifteen hundred

1067
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: for the Paris Games and now she's doing that ski

1068
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: mountaineering event that I mentioned. If you had to right

1069
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: now train for a sport in the winter sports that

1070
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: you would try to make the Olympics in which one

1071
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: would you ow the best shot.

1072
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: I'm older now, but back in the day, I would

1073
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: definitely had this dream of being a Winter Olympian in

1074
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: the biathlon. I did the biathon growing up, and I

1075
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 3: went to the Olympic training center actually in high school

1076
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: for it. So I used to have this dream of like, Okay,

1077
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: when I can't make any team and running, I'm gonna

1078
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: shift to skiing.

1079
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: But I wish you had. America has still never won

1080
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: a medal in the biothon. I could have been you Caara.

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Speaker 3: I know, but the talent has really increased.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I was a runn around skis, not a skier, and

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Speaker 3: so I think I don't think I would have stood

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Speaker 3: a chance. But that's where I would have gone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense, what about you does?

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Speaker 6: That was my pick, but I didn't know care it

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Speaker 6: was going to be my competition. So now I have

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Speaker 6: to pivot to like speed skating or something that's a

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Speaker 6: really entire body.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, you guys, I believe you're younger than me, but

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Speaker 1: whatever age we are, we all have to say curling

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Speaker 1: at this point because there's like a fifty five year

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Speaker 1: old dude doing it like I think that's all right,

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Speaker 1: that's our way way we can get in well. So

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Speaker 1: great to talk to both of you. It's so nice

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Speaker 1: to have this perspective when you're not thinking about how

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Speaker 1: you're leaving tomorrow or getting ready for the race. And

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Speaker 1: we'll have you back to talk all things distance running

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Speaker 1: when we get close to you know, a marathon or

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Speaker 1: world championships or whatever. Too awesome, Thanks Sarah, Thanks again

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Speaker 1: to Karen Dez for hanging out with us. We got

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Speaker 1: to take another break when we return saying goodbye to

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest welcome back slices. We always love

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Speaker 1: to hear from you, so hit us up on email

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Speaker 1: good game at wondermedianetwork dot com or leave us a

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Speaker 1: voicemail at eight seven two two O four fifty seventy,

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Speaker 1: and don't forget to subscribe. Rate and review. It's easy

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Speaker 1: watch losing one of the all time greats. Katherine O'Hara,

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Speaker 1: rating zero out of zero stars exactly the kind of

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Speaker 1: shit I'd expect of this cursed year review. I had

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Speaker 1: just landed in Philly when I got the news that

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Speaker 1: Katherine O'Hara had, and throughout the day on Friday and

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Speaker 1: continuing into Saturday, I got countless messages from folks thinking

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Speaker 1: of me when they saw that she'd passed. Now, everyone

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Speaker 1: loved her, and everyone has a favorite Katherine O'Hara movie

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Speaker 1: or character, but not everyone actually played Moira Rose on

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Speaker 1: national television. As far as I'm aware, that list is

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Speaker 1: just me and Catherine O'Hara, And if you've heard or

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Speaker 1: seen someone else do that on national television, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear about it. Let me and Catherine have this, please. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I played Moira for the twenty twenty Halloween episode of

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Speaker 1: Around the Horn, and I was so devoted to nailing it.

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Speaker 1: My makeup person even messaged the head makeup artist at

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Speaker 1: Shits Creaked to get the exact colors of foundation and

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Speaker 1: eyeshadow she used on Catherine for the show. I had

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Speaker 1: the look down head to toe, complete with extra wigs

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Speaker 1: on a coat wreck behind me, and I needed a

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Speaker 1: several hour tutorial to try to learn her as it

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Speaker 1: turns out, completely made up accent. But once I got

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Speaker 1: the cadence and I found my entry phrase, the one

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Speaker 1: you sort of repeat to yourself to get into character.

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Speaker 1: I knew I had it, and you would be remiss

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Speaker 1: not to mention my work on Sunrise.

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Speaker 4: Hey did you get that sweater dressed on day?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I've been obsessed with Catherine since my sister and

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Speaker 1: I watch Beetlejuice eight hundred times and every year at

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Speaker 1: Christmas watching home alone. I devoured her standout work on

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Speaker 1: SCTV while I was taking in private Second City, cackled

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Speaker 1: over her work invest in Show, and whenever she stole

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Speaker 1: the spotlight in a Christopher Guest mockumentary, Shit's Creek basically

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Speaker 1: got me through the pandemic all the way up to

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Speaker 1: her recent work on the Studio, Catherine O'Hara once said,

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Speaker 1: I'm proud that I've played women who are complicated, not corrected.

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Speaker 1: What a star, What a gift. May she rest in peace?

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00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: Or to quote Alexis Rose, goodbye to a great actress

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Speaker 1: with a smiling emoji in sunglasses. If you know you know,

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Speaker 1: now it's your turnill rate and review. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: See you tomorrow. Good Gamecara, Good game, Dez Hugh Ice

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Speaker 1: like the Frozen Water kind this time, I totally ate

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Speaker 1: shit on Sunday and picked up my elbow so bad

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Speaker 1: out in a random gym I stumbled into. Got to

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Speaker 1: shout out the nice folks at Taylor's strength for taking

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Speaker 1: care of me when I came to anyway, thankfully. I'm

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Speaker 1: headed to Italy with a fat, painful, hyper extended arm

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Speaker 1: and not a broken one, but fuck you all the same.

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Speaker 1: Ice Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's

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Speaker 1: sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Production by Wonder Media Network,

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Speaker 1: our producers are Alex Azzi and Bianca Hillier. Our executive

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Speaker 1: producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder.

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Speaker 1: Our editors are Emily Rudder, Lucy Jones, Britney Martinez and

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Speaker 1: Gianna Palmer. Production assistants from Avery Loftus and I'm Your

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Speaker 1: Host Sarah Spain