1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Great Food League Action is well under way, and so 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: are we here at Cardinal Territory live from Roger Dean Stadium. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Trevor's on one side of the complex and I'm on 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: the other. We are back for episode nineteen. Trevor, Welcome 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: to Florida. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: How do you feel so good? We're here in the flesh. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: It's amazing here. It's actually really nice today. It was 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: good to be in the ballpark. The Cardinals aren't playing 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: at home there on the road, but I caught a 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: little bit of the Marlins game. The one thing that 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: stood out, and you probably noticed this, Katie, but the 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: Marlins attendance first, A Cardinals game attendance drastically different. I 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: mean there's hardly anybody in the stands today. 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I deded, obviously, do not go to Dunedin today, 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: and I stayed back to do some work at the 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: complex and I was walking around and I was like, oh, 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: I guess there's not really a game today because it's 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 1: so empty. And then I heard the PA announcer doing 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: starting lineups. I was like, oh my bad, there, I 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: guess there is a game today. But yeah, Trevor, it's 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I can finally start like really getting 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: excited for baseball season, because yeah, whatever spring training games 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: don't matter, I hear you. But we're starting to get 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: our first early insights as to how the Cardinals are 25 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: going to piece together their lineup and their roster come 26 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: opening Day, which is just over a month away. And 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: that's fun to see because it's been a very long 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: winter with that much to talk about and now here 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: we are, so I wanted to ask you in this 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: very small sample size, the Cardinals have played roughly three 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: and two thirds games. It's the top of the seventh 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: right now as we record who stood out to you 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: so far? 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: Well, I've been happy with the starting pitching. I know 35 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: it's guys are going in very brief stints, but the 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: veteran guys, they're getting their work in, they're getting the 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: job done, they're getting in and out, having some quick innings. 38 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: There's been some bullpen arms that have been very encouraging. 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm excited about some of the arms, some guys that 40 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: have some elite stuff, some high velocity. Overall, the pitching 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: is something to be uh to build on, and I 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: think we have we have some tools in place, some 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: pieces that that will be important and then I mean 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: your boy, Jordan Walker. I have to say, I'm liking 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: your pick more and more the more I see him. 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: He looks comfortable in the box, the power looks very present, 47 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: looks like he's he's he's ready to go, you know. 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: Victor Scott another guy that looked really well. He's he's 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: having a great game today. He's hitting the ball hard. 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: And then we have to give a shout out to 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: JJ Weatherholt. He was a guy that wasn't really on 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: my radar. I'm not sure why, but seeing him play, 53 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: I can see uh that he's he's a guy to 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: be excited about. First Cardinals homer of the season. H 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: followed up with H with a Luken Baker homer. Another 56 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: guy that we got to be excited about. And then 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: I'll mention to you last one, Katie, and then I 58 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 2: want to hear what you think. But you can never 59 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 2: really uh downplay a guy like Wilson Contraris. I mean, 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: his reputation is he's always been he's a hard worker 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: and he shows up. He likes to compete. But he 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: looks good, he looks strong. I'm excited to see what 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: he does at First Space with Gold Schmidt no longer here. 64 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking to Wilson today in the clubhouse. 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: A few veter incident go on the trip, mainly the 66 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: ones who played on Monday, just for playing time purposes. 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: But I said, hey, Stephen Matz is a good teammate 68 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: for you. He gave you two innings, five ground ball 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: outs and you had it covered. Looked pretty easy. And he, 70 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, Wilson, he likes to laugh, and he scoffed 71 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: a little bit and he said, I hear what people say, 72 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: and he said, I don't care. He didn't use that 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: exact phrase. What he did say is probably not something 74 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say on the show. But he looked 75 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: great out there, so and the bat looks good too, right, 76 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: He had a scorcher of a hit with like a 77 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: six or a scorcher of a ball six sixty expecting 78 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: batting average. That was cotton right field yesterday. And I 79 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it doesn't really matter if what the 80 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: production is. As long as the bat looks like that, 81 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: he's going to be fine. Of course, I'm gonna promote 82 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Walker's two hit day yesterday. I don't care if 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: it was one game had what I really liked from 84 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Walker was just the quality of the advats and 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: the production of the of each hit itself. So he 86 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: went two for three yesterday Monday. First hit was a 87 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: single off the middle eggs of velocity of one hundred 88 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: and five miles per hour. His second hit a double 89 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: down the line for an RBI and to the big 90 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: thing about those two hits were that the balls were 91 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: in the air. Both line drive hits hit it hard, 92 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: hit it in the air. That's how we're evaluating Jordan Walker. 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: So Monday's game gets an A plus for me. Other 94 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: guys that stood out. I know it's a two inning 95 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: sample size, but I thought Steven Matts looked really good 96 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: on Monday. He looked in control, in command. He threw 97 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: his full arsenal. I asked him after the game. I 98 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: was like, are you just trying to throw as many 99 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: pitches as possible and work through as many at pitches 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: as you can in those two innings And he said, 101 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: basically he wanted to use the full arsenal to really 102 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: get a feel for all his pitches. You know this, Trevor, 103 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: this is something that guys are working on early in spring. 104 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: But he said, you know, I might switch it up 105 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, because I made the comment that his 106 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: pitch mix looked nothing like how it usually looks when 107 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: he's playing regular game, and he said, maybe that's the problem. 108 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Maybe I throw too many fastballs. I'm trying to mix 109 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: in some off speeds. But Stephen Mattz, after a lot 110 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: of health issues over the last three years, looks really 111 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: good so far this spring, so that's good to see 112 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: as well. 113 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: What about our boy Quinn Matthews today, I thought he 114 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: looked news. 115 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: That's our guy. Uh yeah, he looked really good. Three 116 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: strikeouts and two innings, struck out Blattie what I liked, 117 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: and you can you can speak to this Trevor. He 118 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: got in some trouble in the second inning, bases loaded 119 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: and had to get out of it, and he did 120 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: struck out the ninth hitter. What Ollie Marmal has said 121 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: before is that that's where you really find out where 122 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: a guy is at, where he's made of that it's 123 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: easier to evaluate a picture like that. You know, queen 124 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: innings are great, obviously, but if you have a guy 125 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: who gets himself into trouble and then figures out how 126 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: to get out of it, that's where you can really 127 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: evaluate where a picture is at. And I thought we 128 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: saw really good impressive for showing from Quinn Matthews today. 129 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got out of that inning bases loaded jam 130 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: and even after falling behind one and oh to that 131 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: hitter that he ended up striking out. So yeah, impressive 132 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: for him to bear down and get out out of it. 133 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: I know, like in spring training, you'll hear guys, whether 134 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: it's a hitter or a pitcher maybe say like, I'm 135 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: not too worried about my spring training stats. I'm not 136 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: not too I'm just trying to get my reps in 137 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: and get my pitches in and get get working. But 138 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't really buy that, Like I know, for me, 139 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: when I was in spring training, like I wanted to 140 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: figure out where I was, I was, I was doing 141 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: the best I possibly could trying to get out in 142 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: preparation for the season. And uh, I think we got 143 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of good momentum building for 144 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: these players. I know, you know, obviously we want to 145 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: win some games. It looks so far today like it's 146 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: going to be a close one. But you know, you 147 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: can't downplay the importance of spring training reps. In spring 148 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: training at bats and so I don't know what you're 149 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: hearing in camp. Hopefully guys are are having fun. I 150 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: mean it's still early. Hopefully we're not taking it too serious. 151 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: But at the same time, like we want to get 152 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: a feel for where we're at and not completely throw 153 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: these these games out the window. 154 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a little surprised to see the majority 155 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: of the starters in Monday's game play six innings. They 156 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: wanted the three at bats, so clearly these are, you know, 157 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: competitions that these guys are taking seriously. We'll see Mike 158 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: McGreevey start on Wednesday in Tampa. Andre Polante will start Thursday. 159 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Sunny Gray is still not scheduled to start in an 160 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: exhibition game, but he's on track with his throwing program. 161 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: He threw two innings of a same game on the 162 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: backfields on Sunday, I believe, so all things good with Sunny. 163 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: They're different pictures, prefer different pacing, different strategies in spring training. 164 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see Sonny when he's ready on the mound. 165 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: But it's not spring training, Trevor without some early overreactions, 166 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: and I have one for you, So look spring training lineups, 167 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: spring training stats are that some you know, you can't 168 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: draw a ton of conclusions from these, except sometimes you can. 169 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: So let's see here. Okay, maybe we won't give it 170 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: up here. Okay, let's try this again. I'm going to 171 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: show the opening day lineup from the Grapefruit opener on Saturday. 172 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: There we go. 173 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Then it took me like fifteen seconds. I know a 174 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: hypothetical opening day lineup when I see one, and while 175 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: a lot and this is fair Like a lot of 176 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: spring training lineups are designated by service time, personal preference, 177 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: off days, there's a lot of strategy involved, especially with 178 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: this road trip on that the Cardinals are currently on. 179 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: This looks like a potential opening day lineup to me, 180 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: will run through it. Mason win at short, Brendan Donovan 181 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: at second, Wilson Contreras at first, Nolan Arnatto at third, 182 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: new bar and center, Herrera catching Oh my god, I 183 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: can't even read a lineup right new bar and left field, 184 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Herrera behind the plate, Gorman, DH, Walker and Wright, Siyani 185 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: and center. And of course presumably it would be Sunny 186 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: Gray not Eric Fetty for the Cardinal's opening day lineup. 187 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Now I asked Ally Marmel about this and he played 188 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: coy as he should. But I'm wondering, Trevor, is if 189 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: the season started today, is this the opening day line 190 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: if you would go. 191 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: With what a question? Sure, I don't know, I mean 192 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: off the top, based off of what I've seen from 193 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: Victor Scott, I think he deserves a serious consideration for 194 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: for the opening day lineup. But it's a long season, Katie. 195 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: I mean this, this thing is gonna get switched around 196 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: and turned upside down so many different ways. And uh 197 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: with with players that like I mean JJ Weatherholt and 198 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: what he's doing. Who knows where he ends up in 199 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: the mix. But certainly, I mean this, this could be 200 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: a good option for sure. What do you what do 201 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: you think? What are your thoughts? I mean you kind 202 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: of alluded to it. You think you think this is 203 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: a this is this is what we got. This is 204 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: regardless of the coyness of of Marmaal, you believe this 205 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: to be our our maybe our first option. 206 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: I think it's very close, and I think centerfield can 207 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: go either way. I'm glad you brought up Victor Scott. 208 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: He's in the offense or the early showings of that 209 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: has looked really good. And I personally don't know which argument, 210 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: because you can make an argument for both players. They're 211 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: so similar. They're left handed, defensive specialists with a ton 212 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: of speed, and they don't necessarily hit for a ton 213 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: of power, but they have some pop. I think Victor 214 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: more than Sianni. So centerfield is my big question mark here. 215 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: But I think I like the balance of the handedness here. 216 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: The Cardinals last year, it's such a left handed heavy 217 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: lineup and it was really easy for opposing managers to 218 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: strategize against. I mean, especially because the Cardinals bench really 219 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: was not all that useful. It was very one dimensional, 220 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: something that Olie Marmel talked about at length last year. 221 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: I like Donnie in the two hole. I was not 222 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: surprised at all to see Contreras and Arnatto three four. 223 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised to see Nubar fifth, but 224 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: I kind of like it because new Bar has one 225 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: of the best eyes in the game. He controls the 226 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: plate well, he has a great approach, and he can 227 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: do some damage. He hits the ball really hard, so 228 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: I like that there, even though I was a little 229 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: surprised to see it. Herrera is the asterisk that I 230 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: want to put here. Because I think Herrera is the 231 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: better offensive option at catcher and what he also brings 232 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: us some right handed thump to supplement behind Contraras and Aronado. 233 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: You look at the rest of this lineup. Donnie is 234 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: a lefty, Gorman a lefty Sianni Slash Scott Lefty's new 235 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: bar lefty, So you need some right handed power to 236 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: supplement that. And when I asked Olli Marmal about it, 237 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: he was like, Yeah, absolutely, Herrera and Jordan Walker. If 238 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: these guys can figure it out, that's the complimentary power 239 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: behind those big bats in the middle of the order. 240 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: So I like Herrera there, but I still think we'll 241 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: see Pedro pa Has there as well. Again, I can 242 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: see them platooning, mainly because Pedro is so well prepared. 243 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: His game prep is top notch, and the staff really 244 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: likes to throw with him. So I'm not going to 245 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: be totally sold, but I think it's a good indication 246 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: of where the Cardinals think they can maximize this. Another 247 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: thing that's really tough, and we've talked about it before 248 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: on our interview with Ali Marmol last week, is he 249 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: has to balance the best possible lineup to win that 250 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: day with what the Cardinals are trying to figure out 251 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: long term, and that's going to be really difficult. 252 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be guys that aren't playing on a 253 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: specific day and maybe they should be, but you know, 254 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: like Gorman for example, at the d H and maybe 255 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: Baker gets gets some some some starts because they want 256 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: to they want to have them get regular at bats. 257 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: They don't want him going a week or two weeks 258 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: without getting in the lineup and seeing actual pitching. So 259 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting to see. I think, like I 260 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, I think we're gonna see it shaken up, 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: especially early on and and how guys are performing. But 262 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: that I think compared to last year, that's probably a 263 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: good thing. It's a good thing that there are more options, 264 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 2: there's more players that we're excited to see a lot 265 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: of potential. I mean, we're seeing in spring training. There's 266 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: a lot of things to be excited about. And you know, 267 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: I was, I was listening to our guys at the 268 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: Talking Baseball podcast, Coach Evan talking Jake. They gave us 269 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: a shout out, so that was really cool. They do 270 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: a great job. Yeah, I will well And they gave 271 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: Katie Wu some love. They said they love themselves some 272 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: Katie Woo, and I was I was kind of jealous. 273 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: They did mention my name, but not with such affection 274 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: that they gave you, which, by the way, I if 275 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: you read our comments, like especially our last two episodes, 276 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: people want less of me and more of you. 277 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: So no, but I think it should be the opposite, 278 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: because I think that the interviews are so good. I 279 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: just like to sit back and listen. I so no, 280 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: We're going to keep it exactly the way that it is, 281 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: and I know we have some fun interviews coming up too, 282 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: and if we met a Trevor only show teaser, so 283 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. 284 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 2: Well, forgive me for stepping on your toes, but I 285 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: think we're doing a great job. We're figuring this out 286 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: instill early. It's spring training. 287 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Three episodes a week, and hopefully my production will be 288 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: better because I'm actually so disappointed so far on how 289 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: it's looked. But we still have at least another half 290 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: of the show for me to redeem myself. So keep 291 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: our fingers crossed. 292 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: We're doing great. We're great. But if you're a Cardinals fan, 293 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would recommend you go and 294 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: listen to the especially if you're an optimistic Cardinals fin 295 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: they didn't. They didn't give us the greatest prediction. They 296 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: had our win loss at our wins with win season sorry, 297 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: total wins for the season at seventy seven games. I 298 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: said we were going to come in at the under. 299 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: They gave a pretty good explanation. I'm not sure if 300 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: I agree with that. The one thing I do agree 301 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: with that we're seeing in spring train. There's a lot 302 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: of things to be excited about. There's a lot of 303 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: young players, a lot of young talent. The veteran players 304 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: look pretty good so far. Still early, but I'm still 305 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: on the hype train. I think we're gonna build some 306 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: momentum over these these next few weeks in camp and 307 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: get a hot start in April. I don't know, what 308 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: do you what do you think? What do you got 309 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: on this over under prediction? Katie? 310 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Well, first, I want to second your shout out to 311 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Talking Baseball coach Trev Talk and Jake. Those are some 312 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: great guys at John Boy Media and we appreciate the 313 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: love from them. But I'm going to disagree with their 314 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: seventy seven wins under projection. I'm not going to go 315 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: out there and say the Cardinals are going to win 316 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: ninety games. I'm definitely not going to say that. But 317 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: I think they're closer to a five hundred club than 318 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: what people are saying. I've looked at a lot of 319 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: projections Pakoda, ESPN, the Athletic and none of them have 320 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals higher than twenty four out of thirty. So 321 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: that's not what you want. But when we talked about 322 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: this before, this is almost the exact same roster as 323 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: last year. And I don't want to minimize the impact 324 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: of losing Paul Goldschmidt or what Kyle Gibson and lanceln 325 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: were able to do in terms of stability to the rotation. 326 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: Those are three very key players to last year's eighty 327 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: three win team. But I don't think the offense is 328 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: going to be as bad as last year. And here's 329 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: something that maybe we're not talking enough about. The NL 330 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: Central doesn't look to be very good either. Trevor and 331 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: fans get tired of this. I get it, you know, 332 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: it's not just about winning the division, it's about being 333 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: an actual competitive club. But I wonder, and this is 334 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: total speculation way ahead of the game, if the Cardinals 335 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: are playing five hundred ball through the first half of 336 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: the next of this season, and a five hundred record 337 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: is enough for a wild card berth What are they 338 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: gonna do with the trade deadline? And that to me 339 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: would it's just just know this organization and what they're 340 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: looking to do, would make me think that the seventy 341 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: seven ones would be higher because I have to think 342 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: they would go for it. But again, way too early 343 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: to be predicting that. It's not even March yet. 344 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna probably have a lot to 345 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: talk about, That's my prediction. We're gonna have a lot 346 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: to talk about around the trade deadline. What direction does 347 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: the front office choose to go with this team? I mean, 348 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: we are in this transition or the pre new era 349 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: of the front office, and so yeah, we're gonna I'm 350 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: gonna be interested to see how this all all unfolds. 351 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: A lot to be excited about. 352 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: Right now, I think. So it's it's still so early. 353 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we There's more things to talk about over 354 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: here at Great Fruit League Action, But first we to 355 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: hear from Arena Club. 356 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: Uh Todd Father, remember the good old days when we 357 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: would have the Cards and the binders, but then they 358 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: get all messed up and we're trying to sell online 359 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: and it's just real clunky. They really actually weren't the 360 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: good old days, were they? 361 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 4: No, they were definitely not. But now there's a better way. 362 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: The Arena Club has been dominant with this. 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The first place that I went last night for 382 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: dinner was Guana Banas. I don't know why. I just 383 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: liked that place. 384 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: You do like that place. 385 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: I don't think they have like necessarily the best food. 386 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: The menu actually has changed a lot since I was here. 387 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: I just like the outdoor vibe. Like there's not many 388 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: restaurants that you can go to in the country where 389 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: it's one hundred percent outdoor, So I appreciate I appreciate 390 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: that any restaurant in the water, but for sure the beach, 391 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: which I haven't been to the beach yet since I've 392 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: been here. Have been busy all morning, but I like. 393 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: I like going to the beach and soaking up this 394 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: Florida sunshine. It's a great place though, brings back a 395 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: lot of very fond memories. I know, like I mentioned earlier, 396 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: the Cardinals fans travel well. They usually make a vacation 397 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: out of this. It seems like for how well they 398 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: packed the stadium, I know there's not that many local 399 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: Cardinal fan residents, so they have to be coming from somewhere. 400 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: But no, it's just it's a great time, a great 401 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: time to be here. What about uh? What about you? 402 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: What should I add to my list? Anything that I'm forgetting? 403 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is something that Polo Cencio, the Spanish 404 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: broadcaster started a couple of years ago. Across from the 405 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: stadium is this shaved ice place. And it is so good. 406 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: I have to like restrict myself to one a week, 407 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: but so I last have one on Sunday and today 408 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: is Tuesday, so it's a new week. So I did 409 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: get one for lunch today. It's super good. Crux Coffee 410 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: is a mainstay. I get that almost. It's funny. We'll 411 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: go in the clubhouse. It's clubhouses open at eight am, 412 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: real early. We'll do about an hour in there, and 413 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: then the entire Saint Louis media mob will go over 414 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: to Krux Coffee, get our fix and come back and 415 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: talk to Ali. So that's my little tradition. But you know, 416 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: I think if you've never been to Roger Deine or 417 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: Jupiter in general, it's such a fun place. It's the beach, 418 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: it's baseball, and it's eighty degrees. It cannot get any 419 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: better than that, and you never know who you're gonna 420 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: run into because Jupiter is pretty small, so you see 421 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys out. I saw CC the trainer 422 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: yesterday at dinner, Trevor. Where how did you pass the 423 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: time from days that you weren't pitching? What did that 424 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: spring training lifestyle look like for you? 425 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: So fun? I was actually talking about this earlier today 426 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: with one of my friends. It's kind of it was 427 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: kind of tough because we were having kids at the time, 428 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: especially early in my career, so we were always in 429 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: the middle of nap time and changing diapers. But we 430 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: were always sure to rent a house or some great neighborhoods, 431 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: so like, actually, I have a friend that we rent 432 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: we would rent a house from. It was a really 433 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 2: fun neighborhood. We had a pool, we had friends that 434 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: lived in the neighborhood. So just like going to the 435 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: parks and getting outside and spending time with friends and 436 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: family was most memorable to me, especially because you know, 437 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: we spent all of our off seasons in Saint Louis, 438 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: so it was like, you know, February March, you're getting 439 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: out of the freezing cold and coming down to a 440 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: place where it's eighty degrees and sunny and palm trees, 441 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: like I'm might take full advantage of this. One of 442 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: my best memories is I think so I have three daughters. 443 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: I taught two of them how to ride bikes in 444 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: spring training. It being Florida, I mean it's flat, so 445 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: it was like the prime place to take on the 446 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: endeavor of like as a dad, that's like such a 447 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: proud dad moments teaching your kids how to ride a 448 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: bike for the first time. Unfortunately I've taught them all 449 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: now and I don't have anything else to look forward to. 450 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: I remember, like when I was teaching my youngest daughter 451 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: how to ride her bike. I was like kind of 452 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: like a tear comes to miile, like this is the 453 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: last one. 454 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: That is super said, But your oldest daughter is she's 455 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: like a gymnastics star, right. 456 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's taken bike riding to a whole new level. 457 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: She's doing backflips on a balance beam that's as white 458 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: as an iPhone, So she's got it figured out. That's 459 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: not that had nothing to do with me. 460 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: So no, you taught her balance and she took it 461 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: from there. 462 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take any credit I can get. 463 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: All right, as we look to wrap this up, Trevor, 464 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: is there anyone I mean, as games progress, we're gonna 465 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: start seeing more, We're gonna see longer leashes. Right, You're 466 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: gonna see starting pitchers start to build up to the three, 467 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: four five inning mark. You're gonna see guys staying for 468 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: at least three maybe four bats. What are you looking 469 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: for in terms of evaluation for players as these games 470 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: progress and the playing time progresses as well. 471 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, certainly, you know, starting pitchers, seeing what 472 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: their velocity looks like over the span of four or 473 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: five innings, just seeing everybody kind of gets stretched out. 474 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: But and then there's a few guys, I mean, I'm 475 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: looking at the lineup in the box score right now 476 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 2: that still haven't gotten you know, their first hits. So 477 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: you want to you want to see guys build momentum 478 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: and notch some some points in the hit column on 479 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 2: the box score. But beyond that, I think it's so important, 480 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: you know, at this point with the clubhouse like just 481 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: just developing some sort of chemistry. I mean, there's been 482 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that's happened in the organization. There's 483 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: all these conversation, all these external things happening with this team, 484 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: and I'm not a part of it. I'm not in 485 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: the clubhouse anymore, but I would just hope that there's 486 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: some sort of leadership happening, there's some sort of chemistry 487 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: being developed. However they do that, whether that's in the 488 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: clubhouse or getting together away from the field. But it's 489 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 2: a long season and when we're just at the beginning 490 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 2: of it, so we have to find a way to 491 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: make it fun. Like, yeah, it's a job. These guys 492 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: are getting paid to perform and do a job. But 493 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: when you put too much pressure on yourself, it makes 494 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: it even harder and that's when things can really start 495 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: to unravel. So whoever needs to step up, whether that's 496 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: the staff. We've talked about the staff we had all 497 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: the on We know the energy that they have and 498 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: the thoughts and the message that they have to the 499 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: team and to the fan base. But for me, that's 500 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: what I want to see. I want to see these 501 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: guys go out and have fun, be a team, and 502 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: go out and enjoy the game of baseball. 503 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. Right it's spring training, Baseball's 504 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: We're almost one month until opening day, when things start 505 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: to get real. But for now, you know, Trevor, I'm excited. 506 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: I do think there is some legitimate competition in this 507 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals camp. Sure wasn't the most thrilling offseason, nor is 508 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: it the most thrilling team on paper. But the things 509 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to be watching for as this spring progresses 510 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: is the battle in center fields, the battle behind the plate, 511 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: and just what exactly that rotation and bullpen combination is 512 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: going to look like. One guy we didn't talk about, 513 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: which we should have because he's a friend of the show, 514 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: Gordon Groseppo, had a really nice outing yesterday and he 515 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: threw two, which I thought was a tell. You know, 516 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: they haven't just strictly decided on bullpen usage for him 517 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: yet most starters are throwing two. Garseppo's right on that 518 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: line for me. Could be a starter, could be a reliever, 519 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: could be a little bit of both, could be a swingman. 520 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: So you just never know. But you know this, the 521 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: bullpen competition really starts to heat up towards the second 522 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: half of camp. Your guy Riley O'Brien's off to a 523 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: good start, so we'll see where it goes from there. 524 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, Grascello looks amazing. I was really impressed with this stuff. 525 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm excited about some of these arms that 526 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: we've we've rolled out. You know, there's even a couple 527 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: of guys that didn't necessarily have the best first impression. 528 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: They struggled a little bit, but like the stuff, the 529 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: stuff was there. They had glimpses of being able to 530 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: compete at the highest level, at the major league level. 531 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't rule those guys out either. I mean, 532 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: it's it's still early. There's gonna be a lot of competition. 533 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: There's gonna be guys that you know, injuries are gonna happen, 534 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: and we're gonna have to see, hopefully not hopefully we 535 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: have an injury free camp and year. But I mean 536 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: there's so much with this team, I think, in in 537 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: the youth movement and in these players, and and really 538 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: the new approach, like getting more back to the core 539 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: of it, like a draft and development team. I think 540 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: there's some pieces here where we're maybe not too far 541 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: away of the end result that that we're all hoping for. 542 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 2: So I think I agree with you, Katie. We got 543 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 2: the catching competition, we got center field looks like you know, 544 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: the d H spot. How are we going to maximize 545 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 2: that production? But I don't know, Katie, Am I missing 546 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: anything here? I'm just excited. I'm like here, I'm across 547 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: the street from Roger Gen. 548 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: I know you're back. No, you know, I don't think 549 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: we've talked about this. Why are you here? Why don't 550 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: you tell our beloved audience a little bit about your 551 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: mission and what you're involved with. 552 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm here with the Baseball Assistants Team or BAT. 553 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: It's a great, great acronym BAT, and so that is 554 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: a pretty cool organization. It's been around for forty years 555 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: and it serves to help players of the base or 556 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: help members of the baseball family. So it can be 557 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: a player, a coach, training staff, really anybody on the 558 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: staff in front office, all the way down to the 559 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: training room, and even even scouts and umpires. So the 560 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: contributions come from players. So in spring training, our staff 561 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: me involved, me included. We go into the MLB clubhouses 562 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: and we meet with players. We describe the work that 563 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: we do and the purpose of the organized. If they 564 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: feel inclined, they contribute funds out of their paycheck for 565 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: the year, and then we get to use those funds 566 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: to help members of the baseball family that come on 567 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: hard times, whether it be a natural disaster, illness, or 568 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: or just things outside of their control. And so it's 569 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: a it's a really cool organization. I mean, as you know, Katie, 570 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: the baseball family is like it's a really tight knit community, 571 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: and this organization is really the only thing in place 572 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: that can help players and families that come on hard times. 573 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: So I enjoy it. It's my first time doing the 574 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: tour on this side. I've sat in it on it 575 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: as a player, and now I'm a part of the board. 576 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm a board member of the Baseball Assistance Team, so 577 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: I get to see really how how everything's operated from 578 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, and I feel very confident in telling 579 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: players all the work that's being done and how their 580 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: contributions are being being put to use. So yeah, thanks 581 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: for bringing that up, Katie. 582 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: No, that's awesome, and it's such a great foundation, one 583 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: that I don't think a lot of fans really even 584 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: know exists. So definitely keep up the good work there, Trevor. 585 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: That's very awesome and it's needed, especially in this tight 586 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: knit community that is the baseball world. For our baseball world. 587 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: Before we sign off. We're gonna for our YouTube audience 588 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: at least bless you with the three strikeouts that Quinn 589 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: Matthews had in his Great Fruit League debut. Pretty nasty work. 590 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: The future looks good, Trevor. What do you think? 591 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 2: He looks really, really good. I was impressed better than 592 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: I remember Quinn Matthews looking when I was doing homework 593 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: this offseason. So he's probably not too far away from us. 594 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: Seeing him spend some time in Saint Louis, I. 595 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: Don't think he's that far away either. He's certainly someone 596 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: i'm watching as well. All right, let's call it what 597 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: a time was had, Trevor. You and I have places 598 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: to be. It's almost four o'clock, which means it's almost 599 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: five o'clock, which means it's almost happy hour. That's real 600 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: girl math. So well, we'll be back. I got Alexa 601 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: dak coming on a new play by play Boys for 602 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Cardinals. Made history on Sunday as the 603 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: first woman to call it play by a game for 604 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Cardinals. She's my guest at the end 605 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: of the week, and then Trevor and I will be 606 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: back with you next week for those who at home, 607 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: thanks so much for watching. We'll talk to you soon.