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Speaker 1: Quest Love Show is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: What Up, y'all?

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Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty three, we had Rock and Roll

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame member Dave Matthews on the Quest Love

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Speaker 1: Supreme Show. This interview may actually be the genesis for

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Speaker 1: how I do stuff now, you know, my sort of

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Speaker 1: Prouse questionnaire level of questions. You know, we were spending

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Speaker 1: the whole conversation talking about career music, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of texted the Team Supreme producers and said

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get some random stuff for Dave, like

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Speaker 1: really get to know him as a person, his quirks

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Speaker 1: and whatnot. So we did talk about the songs and

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Speaker 1: the musical memories and touring, but we also learned about

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Speaker 1: his coffee orders and his ice cream flavors and some

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Speaker 1: of the things behind the artists. And I really liked

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Speaker 1: this episode. It was fun to do and especially fun

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Speaker 1: for Dave. And I hope you enjoyed this classic, classic.

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Speaker 2: Episode of Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: And make sure that you're dialed in with the Quest

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Speaker 1: Love Supreme Show and the Quest Love Show and Dave

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Speaker 1: Matthews over to you.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go, Hi, David. Look, everybody's here. It's

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Speaker 3: like the whole here's.

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Speaker 1: The story of a man named Questy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's all of us here. But it's very nice

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Speaker 2: to see you. Great to see you too, sir.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Quest Love. Hey guys, when can we

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Speaker 1: call it the award winning Quest Love.

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Speaker 4: Supreme five years ago?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Really, that's I like that.

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Speaker 1: That's right now, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the illustrious,

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Speaker 1: award winning Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 5: There you go, right, Sorry, I'm excited to be part

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Speaker 5: of this.

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Speaker 1: Actually, if you're if you're really good, we might make

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Speaker 1: you part of the team.

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Speaker 6: So that's that's the joy of coming. Yes, we might

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Speaker 6: just steal.

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Speaker 2: You away right now.

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Speaker 1: We are with that Team Supreme members. Uh, Sugar Steve,

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Speaker 1: how is life?

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Speaker 2: It's like quarantine, but you get to leave the house

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Speaker 2: and do whatever the heck you want and work on

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Speaker 2: all the ship you ever wanted to work on. And

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Speaker 2: the first single from your record dropping this Friday from

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Speaker 2: Plumb on JMI coming out Brown Doves on Friday, Quest Love.

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Speaker 1: And you sort of seen Showand's face when he learned

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Speaker 1: that I have a jazz record coming.

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Speaker 2: Out, so yeah, he knows about it.

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Speaker 5: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: On Paid Bill?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, man, how's life post Tony great? I didn't win shit,

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Speaker 7: Tony's were wonderful. It's whiskey Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Who won?

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Speaker 6: Who won?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 5: All of them?

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Speaker 4: I guess and Juliet didn't win. Y'all didn't get it.

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Speaker 7: And Juliet did not win to Tony. But that's okay

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Speaker 7: because we're the doors are still open.

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Speaker 4: Y'all still the ship though, thank you?

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Speaker 6: Who wand up winning? I'm just curious.

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Speaker 7: Kimberly a Kimbo won a lot of Tony's, mostly for

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Speaker 7: Best Musical, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: It was a weird thing. It's very It's called kimberly

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Speaker 6: a kimbla kimberly Akimbo.

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Speaker 4: What's the part? What's the play called?

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Speaker 5: Bill?

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Speaker 4: That's why I think he's asking.

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's that's what it's called. It's called kimberly a Kimbo.

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Speaker 7: I wish I could tell you something about it. I've

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Speaker 7: not seen it, so I don't know. So I'm just

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Speaker 7: gonna drink whiskey on Wednesdays.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Kimberly a kimberla Laia, how are you? I know we're

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Speaker 1: in the same city, and I failed to tell you

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Speaker 1: I've been here for a week.

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Speaker 4: You know, I want to give you the shade friend

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, A very good friend of mine, very

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Speaker 1: a very very good friend of mine is coming to

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Speaker 1: visit us. On the show, I will say that our

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Speaker 1: guests his namesake. He is the founding member and of

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Speaker 1: one of the most powerful. Well, the way that laugh came,

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Speaker 1: I hope you are the founding member of the band

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Speaker 1: that's your namesake. So anyway, one of the most powerful,

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Speaker 1: mean a mixture of cult following and mainstream because the

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Speaker 1: numbers are there. You know they have mainstream following as well.

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Speaker 1: We do all know the hits. We know crassen to

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Speaker 1: me ands marching too much crush. I also just realized

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Speaker 1: that this group they've released non studio albums. But however,

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Speaker 1: they are the first band to have seven albums debut

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Speaker 1: at number one. And he's giving us the honor right

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Speaker 1: now celebrating him with him their newest album, which is

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Speaker 1: entitled Walk Around the Moon. What can I say, Man,

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Speaker 1: one of the nicest guys on earth, If you ever

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Speaker 1: have the pleasure of opening for this guy, he will

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Speaker 1: before in front of the crowd of fifteen. But what more.

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Speaker 6: Can I say?

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Speaker 5: It was extremely generous. I mean generous, but also precisely true.

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Speaker 6: I have a hilarious story.

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Speaker 1: So when we first started opening for Dave, one of

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Speaker 1: our very first shows was in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and there

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Speaker 1: was concerned, I believe each member because it was Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: and our family were coming, Like I think each family

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Speaker 1: member got like each band member got eight tickets. And

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Speaker 1: the thing was I didn't have anyone coming to see

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Speaker 1: Like we weren't in the tunnel with Dave's forty two

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Speaker 6: We were where like his crowd could see us.

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Speaker 1: And there were so many people there that were like

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Speaker 1: my kids to see Damn Matthews. So I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I got eight tickets, I'll just give it to him.

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Speaker 1: So I'm in Philadelphia, in my own town. Now it's

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three, so yes, we already want to Grammy.

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Speaker 2: We're you know, we're not.

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Speaker 5: You know, you guys are killing It was so exciting

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Speaker 6: Well here's the thing though. Here's the thing though.

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Speaker 1: So I'm figuring, like, wow, I'm watching this dad struggle

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Speaker 5: What's gonna happen? But I know it's going to be funny.

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Speaker 1: It was such a pie in the face moment because

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Speaker 1: i'm the opening act, I'm in the roots the roots,

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Speaker 1: and he was like I said, on one of the

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Speaker 1: you these four tickets, and it's like he took them.

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Speaker 1: But it was almost like he was waiting for that

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Speaker 1: proverbial amble to fall on his head. He still stood there.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, you're gonna go in the stadium, right,

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Speaker 1: It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, But it was as if

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Speaker 1: if I were going to walk away. He was still

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Speaker 1: Matthews like It's as if he did not believe that,

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Speaker 1: so he blocked his blessing. I hope he did not

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Speaker 1: get in and realized that he wrote really good seats, but.

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Speaker 5: I wish you could have just taken them back. It

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Speaker 5: seems like a little bit of a rude response to well.

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Speaker 1: It's Philadelphia, and Philadelphia is very non trusting, especially of

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Speaker 5: But it's also, you know, hometown. So you feel like.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, Dave, I'm just realizing that

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Speaker 1: I've had some of the most interesting career pivots courtesy

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Speaker 1: of you.

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Speaker 2: M m.

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Speaker 1: Yea, Like what, No, It just hit me that I

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Speaker 1: once fired an assistant at a Dave Matthews show because uh,

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Speaker 1: you remember, right, yeah, she beat me in scrabble, and like,

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Speaker 1: so I guess the rumor around Philadelphia is that I'm

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Speaker 1: But it was just she was a disrespectful way that

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Speaker 4: So and what does Dave have to do with that?

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Speaker 5: I immediately hired her.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, yo, Steve, Steve, do you know how

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Speaker 1: we got Dave Matthews?

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Speaker 2: Remember?

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Speaker 5: I see, remember we.

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Speaker 1: Stole Dave matt Like God, any we can, we can

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Speaker 6: How you doing, man? What's going on?

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Speaker 5: We're on the road, except I'm home. My son just

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Speaker 1: Wait, you're conducting a podcast interview in the middle of

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Speaker 1: your Sun sixteenth birthday?

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Speaker 5: No the day after? So no, no, I would have

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Speaker 5: I think we we we scheduled this again and again

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Speaker 5: He didn't. I was available for him, but he wasn't

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Speaker 6: And then I see now, you're in debt territory, noybe.

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Speaker 5: That was a little bit expressive. I mean, he there's

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Speaker 5: times that's I'm not selling him short, but but he's busy, right,

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Speaker 5: so so there's times when uh uh, he's not available.

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Speaker 1: And thirteen thirteen to twenty two, I get it. I

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Speaker 5: There so and I know that I was busy. I

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Speaker 5: I you know, we're we're touring. It's the season, and

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Speaker 5: so that's what I'm doing, and I'm happily here and

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Speaker 5: happy to very happy to finally talk to you. I

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Speaker 5: just have to say, I'm a man. You know, you

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Speaker 5: know that I'm an insane fan so of yours and

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Speaker 5: the roots, but also likewise, so when when I heard

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Speaker 5: when I heard that you were thinking that I would

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Speaker 5: be an interesting guest, I commonly said affirmative.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and I appreciate that the love is mutual. Wait,

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Speaker 1: can I ask does touring at this level for you

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Speaker 1: ever get tiring? Because at least for me, I will say,

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Speaker 1: there's probably two x that I've learned the most from

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Speaker 1: in terms of touring, and that is the Beastie Boys

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Speaker 1: when we really first started touring, and then you were pivotal,

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Speaker 1: and when we really got established, and just the small

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Speaker 1: things that we didn't know that could happen on a tour,

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Speaker 1: like you were the first band that we saw that

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Speaker 1: had like communication microphones on stage so you could talk

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Speaker 4: Then that's affected. That's affected this project a lot then.

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Speaker 5: Right, because we're talking about you were crazy, like it

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Speaker 4: Unless you do the View.

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Speaker 8: Well I will, Oh, really they're still working. What did

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Speaker 8: You'll be like, just so, y'all know we don't have writers,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're spontaneous.

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Speaker 5: We were supposed to do some shows and they were canceled.

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Speaker 5: It's you know, just I don't pay enough attention to anything.

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Speaker 8: Good answer too, Dave Matthews band. Do they need the

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Speaker 4: So you don't even expect that.

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Speaker 1: with you and eventually, I mean, in your mind, would

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Speaker 1: you like that or is that like no, just me Carter.

444
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 5: And and and and.

445
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: Like Stefan, like this is our thing and our thing

446
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: only or.

447
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'd want my son to come

448
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 5: and uh, I mean, I would love it if he

449
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 5: wanted to, but it's not something that I think about.

450
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 5: I'd love him to find he has his own musical

451
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 5: he likes. Is a pretty wide perspective of the kind

452
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 5: of music he enjoys, and he always surprises me. But

453
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 5: that's what I want him to find music the way

454
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 5: I did. I guess I came from a family there

455
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 5: were no musicians, but my mom, you know, listened to

456
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 5: a lot of classical music my parents did, and then

457
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 5: also some folk music. And then I found my way.

458
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 5: My brother turned me on the music. I think I

459
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 5: found a Beatles record or something, and and and so

460
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 5: I kind of felt that's kind of the way I

461
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 5: found music. And so there's been music around my kids

462
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 5: and in our house all those Snap.

463
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, he answered it.

464
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: Wait wait, I was like, snap, wait a minute, we're

465
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Speaker 1: doing a podcast. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, it's.

466
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: Not you and Dave were just talking and catching up.

467
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: Wait what, oh my god, twenty eight minutes.

468
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 6: Yo, he wait.

469
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: Can we each have one word of the question?

470
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: What a go? Go ahead?

471
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 2: Okay, what was your first musical memory?

472
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 6: Wait a minute? Time out?

473
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 4: The first question we asked.

474
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Speaker 1: This is the level of comfort I have with Dave Matthews.

475
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: I legit, I forgot I was doing a podcast. I

476
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: was totally I let a half hour go by it.

477
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even start the process.

478
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 8: No, I was like maybe he's doing his remakes Remixing'll

479
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 8: start from the beginning.

480
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 5: I'm here, so, uh, you know, if we have to

481
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 5: start again, I'm happy.

482
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: No no again, but I will I will say this.

483
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 6: But the question was, what was your first musical memory.

484
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 5: I would like to say my first live music that

485
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 5: I remember, Like, I think it was my first memory

486
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: because I think I was sitting between my mom's knees.

487
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 5: I was a little kid, you know, sort of, and

488
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: on the back of a flat bed truck. Pete Seeger

489
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 5: was playing the band really and I remember thinking that

490
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 5: guy's awesome and he was so weird. He was such

491
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 5: a weird, but he was so he had he was

492
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 5: so friendly, and so that's my first Like I feel.

493
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 4: Like the country was this, Dave, because you've lived in

494
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: a lot of places. Where were you when you saw.

495
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 5: Up upstate not upstate New York, but you know, north

496
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 5: of New York City. So he was in Croaton quite

497
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 5: a bit in that area. And uh, was it turn

498
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 5: Turn Turn or I can't remember what song I don't

499
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 5: think he was. I can't remember what songs he was playing.

500
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 5: I just remember thinking this and people were, you know,

501
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 5: it was relaxed and everything but then I think my

502
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 5: when I was five years old, I remember liking the

503
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 5: Jacks and five, So I'm not entirely sure whether that

504
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: was because why I fell in love with them was

505
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 5: because they had a five ye right, But then I

506
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: really did love them. And then i've I've fell in

507
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 5: love with the Beatles, and I became, I would say,

508
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 5: a bore until my brother opened my brain when I

509
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 5: was about ten, and my brother was turned me onto

510
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 5: other kinds of music, and and then I and then

511
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 5: it was the seventies, so I could listen to the

512
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 5: radio and you could hear, you know, in the seventies,

513
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 5: you could have the radio on and it could be

514
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 5: like at least well PLJ or whatever it was. You know,

515
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 5: it was like, uh, it could be it would be

516
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 5: like John Denver and then Marvin Gay and then and

517
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 5: then uh, you know, Donna Summers and then you know,

518
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 5: I remember my mom would always go to the radio

519
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: when Donna Summers came on, and she'd be going, ah,

520
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 5: love to love you baby, my mom like I don't

521
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 5: like this song right right, and then wait for it

522
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 5: to be over. But I married my mom always running

523
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 5: to the radio and turning off the and that was

524
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 5: the only song I could remember. Her response. I think

525
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 5: it was just it was too much. There was too

526
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: much love making in that song for my mom.

527
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: Back when we scheduled this interview weeks ago, I watched

528
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: about three interviews of yours, and they're pretty much they're

529
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: pretty much the same format. Like they talk about, you know,

530
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: your beginnings of South Africa, moving to the States, and

531
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: then putting the band together. They talk about, So I'm

532
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: actually gonna go back to where we were just tip

533
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: five minutes ago. I'm gonna talk to you like a friend,

534
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: not as a music expert.

535
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

536
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: So wait, no, no, no, I'm gonna ask you random things.

537
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 1: So I totally I put my script away. All right,

538
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: So this is what I want to know, and this

539
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: is I'm asking you just your everyday life questions. Okay

540
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: for for our listeners, I feel like you know a

541
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: lot about a person based on their Starbucks order. What

542
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: is your main order at Starbucks?

543
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 5: U uh an Americana with cream?

544
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: All right? What's that in English? Steve? Because you know

545
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: that you got to translate.

546
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: From espresso espresso with water in it.

547
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: Steve is our resident Starbucks at it.

548
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 5: I have I have a coffee shop in Seattle that

549
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 5: you know, everyone has the best coffee shop in the world,

550
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 5: but this actually is the best coffee shop. And it's

551
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 5: called Lighthouse, And well, there's a there's some there's a

552
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 5: lot of great coffee shops here, as there are as

553
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 5: much as there are everywhere. But this, this particular one,

554
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 5: I call it that, and it's a small, little one,

555
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 5: and so I hope that it doesn't piss them off

556
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 5: that I just uh told everyone. But I get more

557
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 5: cappuccinos and lattes and achato's not the one that you

558
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 5: get at Starbucks, but the original sort of simple foam

559
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 5: and espresso when I go there, because everything they make,

560
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 5: even if I just get a shot of espresso, everything

561
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 5: they make there is delicious. But if I go to Starbucks,

562
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: I know it's gonna be the if I get a

563
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 5: four shot Americano, it's gonna taste exactly the same in

564
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 5: Des Moines as it will taste in Tokyo or Yorktown Heights,

565
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 5: New York. Yeah, it's not going to be any because

566
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 5: they wait, what part of what part of the world

567
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 5: do you live?

568
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 6: Do you what part of the world are you living in?

569
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: Now?

570
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: Are you I live in Seattle, So I'm between. I

571
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 5: sort of live between Virginia and Seattle. But my children,

572
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 5: because my wife studied medicine here, my children were born

573
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: in Seattle.

574
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: I bored.

575
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: He just he just he just got up and left.

576
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: He always hate people talk about their children and where

577
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: they're from. I just have to have to take a break.

578
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: I had to take a break.

579
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 5: I know, I know what you mean. It's where. It's

580
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 5: where I just did and I did it all and

581
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 5: and I keep doing it. Where do you live in Seattle? Anyway?

582
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 5: So my uh, we ended up being here, and we

583
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: like it in Seattle a lot. And we also so.

584
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: Those are opposite towns, by the way.

585
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 8: That's that's some interesting duality of worlds that you got

586
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 8: going on in Charlottesville and then Seattle.

587
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 5: That's right, it is true, but it's it's also funny

588
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 5: because there's assumptions we make about both which are true,

589
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 5: which are but which are also but are also very

590
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 5: not true at all.

591
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: Right, right, very often they're not monoliths. They're not monoliths.

592
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 5: No, And maybe Charlottesville is I guess it's a wonderful place,

593
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 5: but every place could be a little more aware of

594
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 5: its self. Than it is. I imagine.

595
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 8: I bet your kids are hell around well rounded for

596
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 8: those reasons though. That's what I was thinking too, Like

597
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 8: they get they know all the things.

598
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 5: I think that I think I have nice. I think

599
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 5: I have kind to children. That's the main. Yeah, absolutely,

600
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 5: and I and and I also think that my children

601
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 5: are well round enough that they they act polite and

602
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 5: well put together when they when they when they see

603
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 5: you quest but.

604
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: They are very excited.

605
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 5: I have one great story made me really proud of

606
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: my kids. So my favorite musicians is Danny Barnes. He's

607
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 5: a banjo player out of Austin. He lives up in

608
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 5: this man. Yeah, all fuck it, I had enough. I

609
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 5: had enough of that. My pole barn fell into my peaches.

610
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: I'm looking him up right now.

611
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's so it's he's so funky.

612
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: All fuck it.

613
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 7: Last time we were together one hundred years ago at

614
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 7: Sesame Street, you brought up Danny Barnes. I feel like

615
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 7: he's a common I love you because wait, he was

616
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 7: on Sesame Street, Bill David. Danny Barnes was not on

617
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 7: sme streets. That would be amazing. Dave, Dave Matthews, this

618
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 7: person he was.

619
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 6: On brought the Sesame Street.

620
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: Okay, great, I'm up.

621
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: I was.

622
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 5: I was very happy to be on Sesame Street. But anyway,

623
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: my someone someone, some kid asked my kids if they

624
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 5: knew Bob Marley, and I think they were they were

625
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 5: asking them if they had ever heard of Bob Marley.

626
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 5: But my kids were spoiled, and I remember my daughter

627
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 5: said they were little, and my daughter said, I don't

628
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 5: know Bob Marley, but we know we know Danny Barnes.

629
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: There.

630
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: All right, My next everyday question is what television show

631
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: are you currently binging?

632
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: One?

633
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 5: So I'm I am mad that I do like that. Uh,

634
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 5: the Last of Us thing? Okay, but and the last

635
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 5: two episodes were my favorite, and because they were just

636
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: so man, I'm just didn't finish it.

637
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 6: I didn't finish it, and I finished it ruthless.

638
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 5: I just ruthless. I'm excited, So I'm sad that I

639
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 5: got to the end. Anyway, they were ruthless. A lot

640
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 5: of people were like, I don't like the last two.

641
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 5: I was like, I love them. But also I wanted

642
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 5: to tell you, I think people should watch this funny.

643
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 5: I think it's Australian show. I don't know if they

644
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: haven't made it anymore, but it's called Mister in Between.

645
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 5: Is anybody here that sounds familiar? Way?

646
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: Way?

647
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: Wait, what's what's what service? What is this one?

648
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 5: I think it's Mister in Between. I really like this show.

649
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 8: Oh I just meant I could be on it, you know,

650
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 8: but sometimes you just fall onto you fall into things.

651
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 5: I know that there's gonna be a show that I'm

652
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 5: watching that I have that I've forgotten. Okay, and and

653
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 5: then there's uh uh, I just finished that.

654
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Res Dogs. It's cool.

655
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: Reservation Dogs, Indigenous kids.

656
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: Yes dogs.

657
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 5: Yes, it's a really good show because.

658
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 8: A lot of dope indigenous shows on like on streaming

659
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 8: right now, like they didn't include the community.

660
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Is really cool, really, all of the non musical jobs

661
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: that you've had.

662
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 7: It's my favorite episode of Questlove Supreme ever. It's because

663
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Speaker 7: I just.

664
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Speaker 6: Want to I want to know them as a human

665
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 6: being instead.

666
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 5: Of as I did. I was a bartender, which is

667
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 5: I think, uh not unusual for musicians, but I but

668
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 5: I worked my way up to bartending. I started off

669
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 5: as the salad guy, and they used to call me

670
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 5: the nacho guy because I made more nachos than salads.

671
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 5: And then I waited tables.

672
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: I hated.

673
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 5: That's the worst. That's the hardest job in the world, waiting.

674
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 5: I think it's the hardest job.

675
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: Do you have the ability to carry that train like

676
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: way above your head?

677
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 5: I was.

678
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: I was good.

679
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 5: I'm good at carrying trays. But I'm also really good

680
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: when i'm overwhelmed, because I'm easily overwhelmed. I'm really good

681
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 5: at pretending that someone's not in my section until they leave.

682
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Wait, so you got passive aggressively.

683
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, excuse me? Uh can can Uh? We haven't been

684
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 5: served yet. I'm sorry you're not in my section. I'm

685
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 5: just going to but I'll let your waiter know. I

686
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 5: didn't do but I did do it, and I will

687
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 5: and I and I tell you that the one of

688
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 5: the weird. I was working on the patio and there's

689
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 5: a lot of rats in this particular underneath this mall.

690
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 5: But I there was they used to rats with restaurants.

691
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: Okay.

692
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 5: I walked onto the patio where I where I was waiting,

693
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 5: and I looked and there was this there was a

694
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 5: group of women and they were a little bit fancy.

695
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 5: We're not too fans because they were at our restaurant,

696
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 5: but they were a little bit fancy, and there was

697
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 5: a rat at their feet. So I didn't want to say,

698
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: excuse me, there's a rat at your feet because that

699
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 5: would cause mayhem. I love the way anyway, so I

700
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 5: waited for the rat to walk away from under their table,

701
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 5: and it took so long. They would move their feet

702
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: like the rat would be standing on their shoe, and

703
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: then it would they'd move their feet and then the

704
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 5: rat would just walk over. I mean, it was so

705
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 5: bananas in Charlottesville. It was the most comfortable rat in

706
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 5: the world. It walked out onto the to an open area,

707
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: and then the ladies spotted it when it was in

708
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 5: an open area outside the restaurant, and one of the

709
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 5: ladies said, a rat. And then and then they all

710
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: were like and then and then the dude came out

711
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 5: of its long clothes. Now this dude came out of

712
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 5: a Walmart and he had a and I was at

713
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 5: this story. Now I was like, oh, I've been I

714
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 5: must say, I must stop the run.

715
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: Now you care? Now you care?

716
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 5: Now I can acknowledge that the rats that if it was,

717
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 5: I was just I was so happy it made it away. Anyway,

718
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: it wasn't in my section. And then and this dude

719
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 5: came out of the Walmart with a broom handle and

720
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 5: a box and then just right in front of everyone,

721
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 5: just beat this rat to death. People were like, a rat,

722
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 5: Oh no, what a rat? And this dude just walked

723
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 5: out just as if nothing was I just was like,

724
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 5: people were like and I was kind of stunned too.

725
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 5: And then he just smacked it into the box and

726
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 5: just walked away back dropped the box next to Walmart

727
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 5: and just walked in. Not Walmart. What am I talking about? Woolworths?

728
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 5: I said, hold on, hedn't come out of a giant

729
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 5: mega store. He came out of the old, the little

730
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 5: old Woolworths. I I ruined the story by so you didn't.

731
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: Know Dave Matthews. You literally, yo, guys, this might have

732
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: to be my new format.

733
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 6: I love waits. That's one job. What's the other?

734
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: Four?

735
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

736
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: Ship?

737
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: So I worked in a record store and and it

738
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 5: was in South Africa, and it was.

739
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 2: When, oh my god, I can't believe.

740
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 5: Anita Baker's like smash album came out and she was wait,

741
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 5: time out, time out, time out, tell himbout, wait, why

742
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: do we get triggered?

743
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 6: Sorry?

744
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 8: Dating, it's not a game.

745
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 5: It's not a game.

746
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: Go ahead.

747
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 6: I'm sorry inside, So.

748
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: It got started like what the fuck.

749
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 5: This was a long time ago. Anyways, I apologize if

750
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 5: I if I haven't been reading the paper. But anyway,

751
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 5: she was just that album was just that was NonStop

752
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 5: and that was what everyone was. It was and the

753
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: thing was, it was. It was in the it was

754
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 5: in the city in Jannisburg, and it's and it's it

755
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 5: was an interesting time because it's when like Hillbrow in

756
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 5: Johannesburg and Joville and Johannesburg and downtown Johannesburg where they

757
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 5: were starting to call them gray areas because although Aparthei

758
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 5: was still like holding on with its claws, it was

759
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 5: it was everyone everyone knew it was at this It

760
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: was when the clerk was about to he was gonna

761
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 5: the President of South Africa was about to what they

762
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 5: you know what the what much of the country, uh,

763
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: the white part of the country considered the great betray

764
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 5: because he was hard line apartheid guy. And then suddenly

765
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 5: he just did. But I think he got the reports

766
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 5: from people and and it was essentially you know, let

767
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 5: go or it's or you know, there's going to be

768
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 5: get get out. So anyway, it was right around that time,

769
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 5: so there were these gray areas where people like where

770
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: it was essentially you know, already integrated, and you know,

771
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 5: the police was still horrifying and it was all that

772
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 5: was still going on. But it was like these certain

773
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 5: areas like they're sort of the hip to be college

774
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 5: students and Orthodox Jews and then anyone else that want

775
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 5: to live there. It's just And what one Polish guy

776
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: once said to me when I was in his cab

777
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 5: in New York going to Brooklyn, he says, you know why.

778
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 9: The Jews don't leave here. The Jews don't leave here

779
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 9: because the Jews don't take ship from every Bobby. And

780
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 9: I was so interesting this. I don't know why I

781
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 9: did a weird not good.

782
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 5: No, that was I thought that was kind of good.

783
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: I don't know Steve Bill.

784
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 6: But I feel like that Polish was nailed.

785
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 5: That was.

786
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 6: I felt like b minus I was minus.

787
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: Is exactly right. But anyway, it was a fucking accent.

788
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: Oh but anyway, it wasn't me. I didn't say it

789
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 5: so then, yes, but I just thought that was so.

790
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 5: I just thought it was interesting because then I ended

791
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 5: up living years later. Uh, in an area or with

792
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 5: a friend in an area that was it was like

793
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 5: had been very much uh like sort of a Jewish

794
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 5: area in in Johannesburg that had now become this sort

795
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 5: of gray area, but it was still very Jewish, but

796
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 5: it was also college kids and it was also it

797
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: was a really interesting time. And that's when I worked

798
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 5: at this record store. I wish I could Hillbrow Records

799
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 5: is what.

800
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: It was called.

801
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: And and then what else ship That was a long

802
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: it's a long story. And I drew some pictures. I

803
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 5: did some illustrations for for magazines like uh brochures for

804
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 5: like insurance companies for a little while. That was that's

805
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 5: just like a small like a local like coming, you know,

806
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 5: get your you're an illustrator, like a really like like

807
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 5: like come and get a thermometer put in your buttthole

808
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 5: at this start you write a cartoon of it, or yeah,

809
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 5: you draw a little like picture. Now. I wish it

810
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 5: was that interesting. It was much more like, you know.

811
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Wait, can I ask does your publicist approve of this interview?

812
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 8: I feel like they're here, they.

813
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 5: They're right there. They just.

814
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 6: Random dude giving you two thumbs up.

815
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 5: That's amazing.

816
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 8: Can I ask a random acting question real quick because

817
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but your your favorite characters of mine was

818
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 8: from Blenda And I'm just so curious if you're like

819
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 8: an improv dude or yeah.

820
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: I'm just that's my first question about acting.

821
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 8: But I'm just curious if you're improvd to do because

822
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 8: it seems like you'd be amazing at it.

823
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 5: Well, I haven't done too much of it, but I would,

824
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 5: I'm I'm but I'm willing to learn.

825
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 8: Really, So what's your acting? So as far as your training,

826
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 8: what do you what do you consider you?

827
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: Just when I was when I was bartending a bunch

828
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 5: of a bunch of English grads who worked in bars

829
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 5: in Charlottesville and other people that started there's two there

830
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 5: was one called off stage theater and one uh there

831
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 5: and there was another one that was that wasn't in

832
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 5: random places that I've forgotten it now and they'll get

833
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: mad at me when they if any of them hear this.

834
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 5: But and then so we I used to do when

835
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 5: I was twenty in my early twenties, I used to

836
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 5: do little acting things there and you know, try to

837
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 5: figure out what the hell I was doing with myself.

838
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 5: I wanted to do something.

839
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 6: Result right.

840
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 5: I think the last thing I did with off stage

841
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 5: theater was, uh, the band was already together. I think

842
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 5: a couple of guys came to something I did in

843
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 5: in the bars, Leroy and Carter. I think they came

844
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: to one of them. And then now, I you know,

845
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 5: you know, if Sandler calls me, I'll do his movie.

846
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: Say, y'all got a nice relationship.

847
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 8: What's your most fun Adam Sandler experience of all the

848
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 8: movies that you've done again.

849
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 5: So so one time, and he'll he might not verify

850
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: this because but but it's mildly x rated. But he

851
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 5: called me up and he said, he said, hey, buddy,

852
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: I got this one thing. I got this thing for you.

853
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 5: He says, you go, you gotta read this. And it

854
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 5: was actually for the part that I think Woody Harrelson

855
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 5: ended up playing, so he obviously Adam got a better option.

856
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 5: But it was when wood he played the trans woman

857
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 5: or something in.

858
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: Manment.

859
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but wood he was would he was great anyway,

860
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 5: So so he was. I think he was calling me

861
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 5: about that. I'm not one hundred percent sure of but

862
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 5: he said, I got that, I got this pop with you.

863
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: And I said, I said, uh, I'll do anything for

864
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 5: you said, I said you could dress. I said you

865
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 5: could do anything. You're amazing. You could put a dress on.

866
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 5: And I probably, you know, want to make love to you.

867
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 5: And he goes, whoa, and he goes and he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy,

868
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 5: you could, you could, you could never. You can never

869
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 5: ever make love to me, Like I'm sorry. He goes,

870
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 5: you could even maybe you could titty fuck my ass,

871
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 5: but you can never go inside. And I was like,

872
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 5: that's my that's my greatest memmory memory of Adam.

873
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: That is.

874
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 4: Tell us he was a jack of jail or whatever.

875
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 5: And I was like, no, never go inside me.

876
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 6: Also, that question is point on.

877
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 4: It is point on.

878
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: That is spot on, sand Man.

879
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm sorry to be heady about this, but so

880
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 8: everything that happened between you and Nicole Hinman was cryptic.

881
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean for the most, I mean for the most,

882
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 5: the stumbling was. It was all pretty pretty scripted. She's

883
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 5: pretty shot, and Keith was Keith was around quite a

884
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 5: bit too.

885
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 6: Okay, tar players making a weird awkward it's.

886
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: The funny she's ever been.

887
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 5: That's she's but she you know what, what's interesting is

888
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: is how much she adores Adam Sandler, because she said

889
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 5: when she was first coming up, she said, she was

890
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 5: on Saturday Night Live and she was terrified, and Adam

891
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 5: was just the nicest man. And that's kind of it's

892
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 5: kind of a thing that's interesting about He's like, like,

893
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: you know, he says, he works as hard as anybody,

894
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 5: but that guy is absolutely one of the nicest people

895
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 5: in the world.

896
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: He is he is, He absolutely is.

897
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 7: David, I've been asked, I've been wanted to ask you

898
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 7: this my entire life. We talked about We've talked about before.

899
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 7: Actually you talk to the Beatles, the simplicity of melody,

900
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 7: the simplicity of music writing, and yet when I listen

901
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 7: to your songs, there's the time signatures are complex, the

902
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 7: thoughts are complex, the harmonics are complex. It feels like

903
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 7: like one thought and then a different practice.

904
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've I have, I have learned nothing but.

905
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 7: Like, but like we've worked together for a long time,

906
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 7: and like it's like it's a I think in your

907
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 7: head and in my head and I guess in song

908
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 7: Unders said, you want you want to present the most

909
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 7: simple thing, the most beautiful, simple, perfect thing. But yet

910
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 7: for whatever reason, you get caught up in the musicality

911
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 7: of it all, right, and then and then you try

912
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 7: to still right and then but but for whatever reason,

913
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 7: you're very successful at finding that in the end, finding

914
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 7: the most beautiful thing regardless, right, And so that has

915
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 7: always been my like number one Dave Matthews thing your

916
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 7: entire career as a fan, as a person who knows

917
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 7: you that just like I don't know how you do that.

918
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 7: I really don't, and it's like, it's really fantastic. That's

919
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 7: I don't know how better to say that, and words.

920
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's, that's, that's very kind. I do I

921
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,479
Speaker 5: have to say that I do. I want to say,

922
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 5: stop there and don't fuck it up, don't change it

923
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 5: to five, don't put it in eight for no reason

924
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: and then switch it to four.

925
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: What do you do?

926
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 5: Why do I have to be so confusing? But then

927
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 5: I but then sometimes I can't stop myself and then

928
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 5: I just end up going in circles until it's too complicated,

929
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 5: so I either throw it away or something. But I

930
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 5: also have to say something that some There have been

931
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 5: specific times in my life when I've said when I've

932
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: come up with something that's that's weird, a weird time signature.

933
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 5: It's unusual, but I feel like it, and it's I

934
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 5: think a lot of it is sort of listening to

935
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 5: some sort of Central African West African grooves and how

936
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: it sounds like it's here but then it's actually over here,

937
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 5: and and and and and I don't know if I

938
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 5: understand it, but I but I still get inspired by it,

939
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 5: and and then I'll come up with something and I

940
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 5: think to myself, I think this will sound really good

941
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 5: if Carter plays it, you know, because Carter will come

942
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 5: in and make something it's really unusual sound like it

943
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 5: makes sense, and I think it's a remarkable gift. So

944
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 5: sometimes I even go on tangents just to play for Carter, who, who,

945
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 5: if anyone that's listening doesn't know, is the drummer that

946
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 5: I've been lucky enough to work with for.

947
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 6: To trust me. They we all know quarter View.

948
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 5: I know you guys know, but a.

949
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 7: Mirror like, how do you feel about a drummer like Carter,

950
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 7: Because essentially your philosophies are completely and utterly polite opposite,

951
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 7: So you want to know something because also like and

952
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 7: I respect you both in so different ways.

953
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 6: But it's a completely different thing, and that's fascinating to me.

954
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 6: Here's the funny thing.

955
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: So the project I'm working on right now right.

956
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: Is it was me looking at these guys like a

957
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: period between ninety four to ninety six, and it just

958
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: hit me when I saw them like this is like

959
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: when the second album Verse came out and I saw them.

960
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: So basically, what Bill is explaining is that I have

961
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: a very bare bones, straight pocket. And it wasn't until

962
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: I saw you cold blooded pocket.

963
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 6: But it wasn't.

964
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Until I saw the earliest performance of an unmentioned secret

965
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: project I'm working on that it finally hit me. I

966
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: was like, yo, now I saw this with at the

967
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: Drive In. I saw this with and then when I

968
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: saw this also when they morphed into Mars Volta, and

969
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: now I'm seeing it with Dave Matthews. I now know

970
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: where the true creative home, where what I call gospel

971
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: chop jumping belongs. Carter is the perfect musical specimen of

972
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: a drummer for this particular ensemble situation where it fit's

973
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: like a hand and glove. The problem I have is,

974
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: all right, if you were to take Carter.

975
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: He is gospel chops, you're saying.

976
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 7: It's transcendent gospel shops like it's He's on a whole

977
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 7: other level, right.

978
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 6: He's the honest. But that's the thing.

979
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: And but the only reason why that level of drumming

980
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: would be jarring for me is if say a tribe

981
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: called Quest asked for the same sort of drummer, you

982
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yeah, then it would be different.

983
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: But I now, like when I when I saw it,

984
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: then I went on an instant rabbit hole and only

985
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: watched pre ninety nine Dave Matthews to see them at

986
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: their very beginners, and I'm like, oh shit, you guys

987
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: are actually the blueprint for where black music is today

988
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: as far as rhythmically and structurally.

989
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: And I don't think you guys know that.

990
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's for sure that we know that.

991
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 6: No, I don't think we know that.

992
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: And it's just like only in Mars Volta and in

993
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: the Dave Matthews band is that level of insane drumming

994
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: like music to my ears where it's just.

995
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 6: Perfect makes all the sense.

996
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,959
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I mean right.

997
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 5: Again, I'll just sit here and I'll just lie in.

998
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 5: That sounds good for me.

999
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 6: Wait, did I not make that clear.

1000
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 5: But it was just it was kind of meant, oh, yes,

1001
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 5: I have a way to go around.

1002
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 6: The scenic route to get to the point.

1003
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: Yes, But okay, so what is your preferred method of songwriting?

1004
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 6: So do you do it alone or do you guys

1005
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 6: get together.

1006
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 5: Or there's been times when, like the I think sometimes

1007
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 5: the best of what we do is when we're all

1008
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 5: together in the room and and you know, I'll have

1009
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 5: I'll find an idea and and and we'll jet Like

1010
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 5: one of my favorite songs that I think we've ever

1011
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 5: ever put out called it's called Virginia in the Rain,

1012
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 5: and actually it only came out a couple of albums ago.

1013
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 5: It's just this swimming kind of feel and it's crazy,

1014
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 5: and it's so comfortable, and everyone sounds exactly like everyone

1015
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 5: sounds and it but it's kind of a magical thing.

1016
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 5: And the way that the timing kind of has this

1017
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 5: upside down thing. And when we were first doing it,

1018
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 5: I think we all kind of almost had different ones,

1019
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 5: you know, it's like this, but the writing on that

1020
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 5: was all of us, you know, in the same space.

1021
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 5: And then there's times when when I'll come in with

1022
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 5: a sort of almost finished song, and and then also,

1023
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 5: I have a I don't it's not maybe traditional, but

1024
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 5: I have a I think it's probably more common now,

1025
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 5: but there's a song like on the new record to

1026
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 5: walk around the Moon. And obviously it was harder for

1027
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 5: all of us to get into a room together in

1028
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 5: the pandemic because we're all everyone's losing their minds, and

1029
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 5: so that was sort of a restrictive situation. But you know,

1030
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 5: in traditional terms, I'd finished the song walk around the Moon,

1031
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 5: and then Carter came in. He was the first person

1032
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 5: to come in because the producer Rob said we should

1033
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 5: get Carter to play on this. We hadn't planned it

1034
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 5: making a record, and but when Carter first he listened

1035
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 5: to that and he did his funny sort of writing

1036
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 5: down the arrangement, and and then he went out and

1037
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 5: what he played over it was so bananas and so beautiful,

1038
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 5: so straightforward, but so bananas. It's like it like wrote

1039
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 5: it like here was the song was written here. And

1040
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 5: then what he did like change the song, but it didn't.

1041
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 5: It just made it way more what it was. And

1042
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 5: I think in a traditional sense someone would say, uh,

1043
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 5: you know, I'd say, like, oh, I wrote that song

1044
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 5: and you know, maybe there have been times when I

1045
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 5: had but I had to say Carter wrote the song

1046
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 5: with me, because just you know, just the way he

1047
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 5: came in, And so is that time. So some songs

1048
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 5: come out of jams. Ninety nine percent of the time,

1049
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 5: I write the lyrics afterwards, which is why maybe it's

1050
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 5: so often they're gobbledygop trying to kind of I can

1051
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 5: figure out a way I how to screw a lyric

1052
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 5: onto something that's jumping all over the place. So whether

1053
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 5: I write a musical thing or form or song by myself,

1054
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 5: or the band gets together and we jam something, or

1055
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 5: or it's a mixture of each thing, the writing of

1056
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 5: the lyrics sort of comes at the end. So that

1057
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 5: is so the process, that part of it doesn't change.

1058
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 5: I love when we're all free and I you know,

1059
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: there's times when I'll you know, say to Carter, play

1060
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 5: something like play this, you know, or but there's also

1061
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 5: times where where I don't say anything, you know, and

1062
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 5: I would expect to same from him too. You know,

1063
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 5: I do feel like a very fortunate that we've managed

1064
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 5: to like keep this process. I've managed to keep this

1065
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 5: process a little bit of an exchange rather than getting

1066
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 5: into a place where you know, I'm telling everyone what

1067
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 5: to do because I think so much more power in

1068
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 5: at least in this band. We've all been together so

1069
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 5: much that you know, there's more noise to be had

1070
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 5: from other people that make make things surprising for you?

1071
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 6: Is is there?

1072
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: What what is your idea of musical happiness?

1073
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 6: Like do you prefer.

1074
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: Small, small, intimate jamming situations with your band or actually,

1075
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: when's the last time you guys played in you know,

1076
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: like Toads Up, Yeah, like Toads Up in the Yale Like.

1077
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 5: But we you know, often when we play outside of

1078
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 5: the country, outside of the US, you know, we play

1079
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 5: in smaller places. It depends, you know, we do. There's

1080
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 5: you know, parts of Europe where we do better. But

1081
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 5: we're more in a weird way, we're more of a

1082
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 5: like a cult band in the rest of the world

1083
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 5: than we are definitely than we are in the States.

1084
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 5: I mean some you know.

1085
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Germany where you playing Like how many people are you

1086
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: playing to in for Germany?

1087
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: Like two thousand or five?

1088
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 5: You know maybe maybe I don't know, five to to

1089
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 5: five somewhere that we bounce around like Portugal. They like

1090
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 5: us there, so we do a little more. Right, we

1091
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 5: do a little more, We get a little more action

1092
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 5: in Portugal and Spain we do alright, the UK is

1093
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 5: a little bigger, but then you know, once we get

1094
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 5: but then it's a different it's very the vibe is

1095
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 5: it's so much fun to play to, you know, a

1096
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 5: different audience, an audience that we don't get to play

1097
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: in front of very much, you know, because we had

1098
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 5: this funny thing in the States that that you know,

1099
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 5: we kind of came up. You know, even though we

1100
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 5: have this we we've been lucky at times more than

1101
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 5: others to sell out big places, we still kind of

1102
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 5: came up this way from our shows and sort of

1103
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 5: word of mouth, and so that we haven't had that

1104
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 5: opportunity as much in other places. And so our audience

1105
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 5: is sort of similar, but a little more excited about

1106
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 5: listening to us in other parts of the world than

1107
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: it States.

1108
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: How can you plan a tour in which every territory

1109
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: varies in size and I know that at your peak,

1110
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: your maximum, you guys are fully operational, like you know,

1111
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen.

1112
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 6: Eighteen wheeler truck.

1113
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I would assume at seven to ten tour bus

1114
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: or private plane operation like But then you're saying that,

1115
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: like if you go to Glasgow, Scotland or something, then

1116
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: you might have to small scale it. So how do

1117
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 1: you route and plan that out where some places you're

1118
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: you can.

1119
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 6: Play ninety thousand.

1120
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 5: I guess we do them separate. So you know, we're

1121
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 5: gonna go to Europe in the spring, and so then

1122
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 5: we'll think of it, like what can we do And

1123
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 5: you know, Fennu designs our stages and uh and uh

1124
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 5: does our lights and has for a long time, but

1125
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 5: you know, since like the first year that we were together.

1126
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 5: But so like then he'll design a stage for for

1127
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 5: if we're in Europe and we'll be much and you know,

1128
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 5: and and then our we'll take our core crew. We

1129
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 5: won't need the biggest So it's just like a you know,

1130
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 5: logistical change and and a lot of it's it's not

1131
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 5: And thank god it has nothing to do with me,

1132
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 5: because that would be a shit show. I love playing

1133
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 5: in the smaller, different venues. We were down in Mexico,

1134
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 5: you know, Mexico City, a few places at the beginning

1135
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 5: of the tour, and it's so much fun to play

1136
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 5: in places we don't go all the time. And uh,

1137
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 5: you know, it's one thing to play in cancuon where

1138
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 5: it'll probably all be Americans.

1139
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: But if you go to Mexico City or.

1140
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 5: Monterey or Guadalajara or whatever, then it's the audience is

1141
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 5: all Mexican people and it and it's just it's so

1142
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 5: much fun to play for a really different audience. And

1143
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 5: when we were down there, we had like a week

1144
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 5: or so, maybe a little more than that somewhere around

1145
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 5: there when we were just all rehearsing together and that

1146
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 5: was that was fun. Actually, I think a lot hopefully

1147
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 5: some new music will come out of that. I think

1148
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 5: it's very fortunate, especially now. I mean there's ups and downs, right,

1149
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 5: but the way the band is right now, I feel

1150
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 5: like it's as much fun playing with these guys as

1151
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 5: I've ever had.

1152
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 7: So, you know, I was gonna ask about that, like

1153
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 7: the band has morphed so much in the past, I

1154
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 7: don't know ten years, Like how do you where do

1155
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 7: you find the happiness and where do you find the

1156
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 7: right thing?

1157
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and adjusting I'm gonna add that to your question, Bill,

1158
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: Like and adjusting to life after LeRoy's transition.

1159
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like how do.

1160
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 5: You Roy was like Roy and Carter Roy is like

1161
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 5: the first person that I it's like, you know, you

1162
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 5: don't have better friends than him. He's difficult friend, but

1163
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 5: you don't, you know, And and musically he's just there's

1164
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 5: no one like him. He is so unique. And Jeff

1165
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 5: Coffin put it beautifully. One one who plays sacks with

1166
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 5: us now. But but Jeff said, what Roy had and

1167
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 5: didn't realize much of the time was he had his

1168
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 5: own voice. And that's like what every horn player dreams about.

1169
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 5: And and it's true, like Roy just had this. Like

1170
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 5: I get to hear a recording, like just to hear

1171
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 5: one note and it just and it just like Roy,

1172
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 5: just the memory of him. But I think, you know,

1173
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 5: so we go we really miss him, but you know,

1174
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 5: and you go, you go up and down. But right now,

1175
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 5: the way the band is, you know, there's lots of

1176
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 5: gratitude and you know, because you know, we still we're

1177
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 5: still paying for our own toothpaste and so so that's

1178
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 5: good and we're living, uh, living well, and it seems

1179
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 5: like the audiences are still enjoying it. So you know,

1180
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 5: this is this it feels like right now, the last

1181
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 5: five years or so, it's been a really good, a

1182
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 5: really good period for us. I really feel grateful about it.

1183
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 5: I also love playing, you know, by myself. I also

1184
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 5: love playing with just me and Tim. I don't know.

1185
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 5: Any opportunity to the change is good too, you.

1186
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 6: Know, to scale down.

1187
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm thinking of life with Steve and Jonas back

1188
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: when we were in the house together.

1189
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 4: Oh God, memories.

1190
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: They Yeah, peanut butter in the fridge or outside the fridge.

1191
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 7: Outside the fridge, outside the fridge, agreed after it's open.

1192
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, always always.

1193
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 8: Y'all probably do the same thing with ketchup and musta.

1194
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 8: Y'all lead that outside defrigerator, but you.

1195
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: Lead peanut butter inside the fridge.

1196
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 4: You opened it.

1197
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything that's open should go in the fridge.

1198
01:03:59,080 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 4: That's what y'all don't read.

1199
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 5: Label. I don't read if you're going to leave on

1200
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 5: the shelf for a couple of months, maybe, yeah, but

1201
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 5: but I you know, we go through our peanut butter.

1202
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 5: It's just it's a and and we get the you know,

1203
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 5: we get the crunchy, all natural. But I think it's

1204
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 5: the same with the other ones. It turns into it's

1205
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 5: it's impossible.

1206
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 6: It's like spread crigerator.

1207
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 5: By the fridge, so you have to take it out

1208
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 5: and leave it there anywhere, George.

1209
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: If we're really going to ask questions this random I got,

1210
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: I got a few questions in my own.

1211
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 6: So dogic it his head.

1212
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: Here we go. My first random question is there's a

1213
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: famous piano player slash a ranger that did a lot

1214
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: of work on my favorite jazz label called CTI. His

1215
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: name is David Matthews. He's been heavily sampled as well,

1216
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: so of course I might know who he is. And

1217
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: I was just wondering if, because of the name, did

1218
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: you ever meet him or crossover with him, or have

1219
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: publishing issues with him in any way because or have

1220
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: you ever heard of David.

1221
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 5: Matth And we've had some but but it's been more

1222
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 5: amusing than anything I think there was. I think once

1223
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 5: he we we ran into each other in and I

1224
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 5: do know him, but I think he may have come

1225
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 5: he had to call the I R S And say

1226
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 5: this is definitely not mine, not.

1227
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 6: Mine, mistake, oh wow, his estimates it's got blown.

1228
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: Up by day.

1229
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 5: I think it may have been like no, no, no, no.

1230
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 5: That's the other guy that sounds sounds a little like

1231
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 5: Kermit the Frog, and he doesn't do any arrangements Okay,

1232
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 5: we had an amusing exchange in an airport. Okay, did

1233
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 5: it a buck of arranging too?

1234
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, yeah, I think he's most known for his

1235
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: his arrangement ranging. So I have a second random question.

1236
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: Do you remember being at Electric Ladies studios in the

1237
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: late nineties must have been ninety seven, ninety eight, some

1238
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 2: ninety nine maybe and smoking a joint with D'Angelo? Yes,

1239
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: with two other random guys. I was one of the

1240
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: other random.

1241
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 5: To forget and I didn't know about this, No, but

1242
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 5: listen it before you down. So then so now i'm

1243
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 5: you know, I'm excited first of all to be uh

1244
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 5: visiting d Angelo in the studio, but now I'm fucking

1245
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 5: so fucking high. And then that's which is fine, that's fine,

1246
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 5: And he turns on he starts playing the most insane

1247
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 5: you'll agree with me, right, I mean the music was

1248
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 5: so beautiful, was so insane. I mean, I hadn't heard

1249
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 5: any of it, so maybe you've been, you know, going

1250
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 5: listening to it again. But it was like early but

1251
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 5: it was, but it was not what I heard.

1252
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 6: I mean maybe it took us four years to make

1253
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 6: that record.

1254
01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm telling you it was so Then the music

1255
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 5: he played. I left, like you know, you know when

1256
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 5: you experienced something when it's so beautiful that you know

1257
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 5: you're partly inspired, and then you're also just like what

1258
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 5: am I? What am I doing? Wow? What am I doing?

1259
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: I should?

1260
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 5: I need to just go back yourself the rock where

1261
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 5: I where I you came from? And the fuck up?

1262
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, maketure raise your game is what it does when

1263
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: you hear music, because.

1264
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 5: It's like you sort of see possibilities. It was Yeah,

1265
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 5: that was absolutely Remember it was so exciting. The root.

1266
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was the song of the route.

1267
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

1268
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: The reason weren't you weren't there? This was like after

1269
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 2: this was like vocals, vocal sessions that just went on

1270
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: for a year. So you want to know that.

1271
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: But tell me, how does Dave Matthews wind up at Electric?

1272
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 6: Just shows up?

1273
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's my no, that's my actual question is

1274
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: what album were you working on? Because you were there

1275
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: for a session. Well, believe I.

1276
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 5: Wonder because I've done a few different things.

1277
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: I think you were your own. I think you were

1278
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: down in the b room.

1279
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 5: Could we have been doing the Santana Uh oh yeah, yeah,

1280
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 5: he might which I've which I I have to tell

1281
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 5: you we planned that.

1282
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: For a long time.

1283
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 5: I have to say, my son, uh put on the

1284
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 5: song that I sang on that Santana record, and then

1285
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 5: I hadn't heard it a long time, and I have

1286
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 5: to say, I'm not sure what was wrong with me.

1287
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 5: I was, I was a little soft on that song.

1288
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 5: Kind of irritates me when I hear it. I'm a

1289
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 5: little soft, I'm a little like, I don't know, I'm

1290
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 5: a little airy a little bit. I mean, it's even

1291
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 5: it's like Kermit the Frog, like we really.

1292
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: Tired, none of us like, oh we do ten years

1293
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: twenty years ago.

1294
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 6: Ever on Santana Robbers.

1295
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 5: My son and I was, he's been getting into some

1296
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 5: Santana and he listened to that and he goes, he goes,

1297
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 5: it's it's I said, oh, I sound terrible, and he goes.

1298
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 5: My son off, He confronted by going, it's not your best, dad, he's.

1299
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 4: The best, he's the best.

1300
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: August.

1301
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 6: August is like, takes you right to the right, right

1302
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 6: to your heart.

1303
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 5: Huh yeah, he said, it's not your best.

1304
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of Santana. Okay, so where did you get the idea?

1305
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: So the thing is is that we're doing our first

1306
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: stadium show, and you know, the stadium holds like seventy

1307
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: thousand people, but I think an accumulation of it because

1308
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: we're the opening act. It's the Roots, Santana and then

1309
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: Dave Matthew's band, and you know there there might be

1310
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: there might be five thousand people.

1311
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: Now, I just came from an arena show last week.

1312
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: I went, I went to Witness or what I call

1313
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: Swiftville or and no, no, no, it was something to behold,

1314
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: especially as an outsider.

1315
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

1316
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: It was something to be whole. But the thing is

1317
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 1: is that.

1318
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 5: A lot of people who I know, a lot of

1319
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 5: kids who went down to that, you know, yeah, just

1320
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 5: friends of friends and said we're going to Pittsburgh.

1321
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: So the town was so packed. I had to get

1322
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: a hotel in Cleveland, Ohio. Like, anywhere she goes, she's

1323
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: going to bring at least at least two billion dollars

1324
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: worth of business. So I want to science study just

1325
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: on that alone. But my whole point was that, so

1326
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: you know, we're about to go out on stage and

1327
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: then you come and you're like, I'm going to introduce

1328
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: you guys, and I'm like, wait a minute, this doesn't

1329
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: happen that the opening, the headliner of the place isn't

1330
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: supposed to come out, you know, the bride's not supposed

1331
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: to see the groom on the wedding day. And you

1332
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: came out and it was as if the audience knows

1333
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: that you do that, because instantly, like within ten seconds,

1334
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: that shit into like fourteen thousand people, and you not

1335
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: only introduced us, but then you stood on stage and

1336
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: watched us because you knew that your fan base would

1337
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: come from their tailgate parties outside to watch you watch us.

1338
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 6: So where where did you.

1339
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: Get that idea from? Because that's that's you didn't have

1340
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: to do that. But where did you get that idea from?

1341
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's probably pretty simple.

1342
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 5: So I I had a few, you know experiences of

1343
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 5: when we were coming up. You know, we had a

1344
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 5: few experiences where where you know, the where the audience

1345
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 5: was coming for the main life, right, and and and

1346
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 5: so and that was always it was. It was quite

1347
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 5: often it was humbling, and sometimes it was sometimes things

1348
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 5: turned out well.

1349
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: I mean we had a great time.

1350
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 5: We opened up for the Dead one time in Vegas,

1351
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 5: and and and everyone had warned us that the dead

1352
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 5: audience is not into the opening act man. And then

1353
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 5: the funniest thing is they loved us, which maybe says

1354
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 5: something about us. They were all they were all dancing

1355
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 5: and spinning around, they having a blast. But but it

1356
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 5: wasn't always like that. And I but I remember one

1357
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 5: specific time it was I think Carter and I went

1358
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 5: to I think we were actually playing between this uh

1359
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 5: blues Traveler had two sets. They were playing two sets,

1360
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 5: and we were playing between them. Oh wow, and there's

1361
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 5: these two dudes right in front of me in the audience,

1362
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 5: and so my monitors there, and then there's these two

1363
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 5: dudes and they were just at the top of their lungs.

1364
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 5: They were screaming like essentially.

1365
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: Like fuck you, you fucking suck fuck And it was like.

1366
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 5: They would have taken a break anyway. They were so

1367
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 5: furious and they didn't start.

1368
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: They were relentless.

1369
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 5: And then I kept like, it's I could I could barely.

1370
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 5: I mean, that's all I hear. And then I kept

1371
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 5: turning around to Carter because he's, you know, he's a

1372
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 5: he's a great drummer, but he's also quite often my therapist.

1373
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 5: And I'm like, these dudes are these guys are really

1374
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 5: fucking wearing me out, and Carter's like, just play the

1375
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 5: fucking song because they were wearing it d We had

1376
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 5: a few, but I always remember that, and I always

1377
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 5: remembered like, like I wanted to say, they invited us

1378
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 5: to come and play in between their fucking set, right

1379
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 5: and right right, So I guess that that was the

1380
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 5: The motivation was just that, like I was really excited

1381
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 5: that you guys were opening the start of the show, like,

1382
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 5: so I was I want to make sure that the

1383
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 5: that they'll you know, like it's the whole show, right,

1384
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 5: So that's how I felt about it.

1385
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: It was the same.

1386
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 6: It was selfish, all right, So second I can check it.

1387
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: You just reminded me of one of the most hilarious

1388
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: moments opening for you. Okay, so we did Philadelphia with

1389
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: you first, then we did aforementioned giant in New York

1390
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: where you know I had to fire oh yeah, and

1391
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: then and then okay, so we get to Boston, right,

1392
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: and now we're kind of feeling ourselves like, Okay, this

1393
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: is not intimidating. We got this, you know, because even

1394
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: we were you know, we just started going to the

1395
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: next level. So this is all very new to us.

1396
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: So this is this is some Daddy Warbucks meets Annie

1397
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: sort of like experience for us where it's like, all right,

1398
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: So then we get to the first song, right, we

1399
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: get to the first song, and already this is the

1400
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: first day. This is the first day that we have

1401
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: the new implemented communication mics.

1402
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: That we saw.

1403
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: You guys have him right, So I'm realizing that we

1404
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: can play do background vocals and crack jokes and you know,

1405
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: so we're in our zone. And then the whole audience

1406
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: was like saying like and you know, by the time

1407
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: we got the song three, I was like.

1408
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: Yo, we are killing shit. Yo.

1409
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, dude, fucking Dave Matthews Mike kick

1410
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: us off the tour for kicking his ass so much.

1411
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: We we are fucking killing in the right I said, Yo,

1412
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: we're fucking killing shit, y'all. Let's keep it up. And

1413
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: the monitor guy was like, actually, guys, they're saying Yankee suck,

1414
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 1: Yankee suck. And I was like, wait, what, what what

1415
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: are you talking about. He's like, uh, he has a

1416
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 1: Yankees cap.

1417
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 6: On and we.

1418
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: From Philly anyway.

1419
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: But that's the thing too, Trek is not he's not

1420
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: a sports guy. He was just matching his outfit and no,

1421
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: and like, but this was also in two thousand and four,

1422
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: where oh yeahousand and four, we're Boston ass right, So

1423
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: oh my god.

1424
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 5: We thought that's a pretty good that's a pretty good

1425
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 5: story that.

1426
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 6: We thought he was killing it.

1427
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: And then and then and then suddenly the audience was like, yes.

1428
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 4: Now throw it, now throw it.

1429
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: No he did literally, and then Trek was like, yo,

1430
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, y'all. I was just color coordinating my outfit,

1431
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: like I didn't meant any fence, and he threw it,

1432
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: and they just, you know.

1433
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 8: Quick music questions as we on this, because Amir always

1434
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 8: talks about Dave Matthews band and the Dead and BC

1435
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 8: Boys kind of being his blueprint as far as the

1436
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 8: structure of what they did and shows and stuff. Dave,

1437
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 8: when you were creating your band, was there other bands

1438
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 8: that you looked at in that way, like from a

1439
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 8: business structure or from just touring anything new you were.

1440
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 4: Like, this is what we're aiming towards.

1441
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 5: I was. I have to say that I was going

1442
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 5: pretty blindly, and it was really you know, I was

1443
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 5: really excited about playing in a band, you know, and

1444
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 5: I was really excited about Leroy and Carter and Stefan.

1445
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 5: I was just it was just like a there was

1446
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 5: there was something that was happening that was was was exciting,

1447
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 5: you know, like playing this one gig where it was

1448
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 5: like I think it was Earth Day and it was

1449
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 5: one of our earliest gigs, and we were supposed to

1450
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 5: go on like second or first, and then the band

1451
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 5: that was supposed to go on after us said hey,

1452
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 5: could you go? We got another gig and so could

1453
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 5: you go uh later, and we'll We're like okay, And

1454
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 5: that happened over and over again until we were I

1455
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 5: think we were the last band to go on. And

1456
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 5: it was an evening show and it was on a

1457
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 5: mall and and I remember when we got up to play,

1458
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 5: nobody knew who we were. We didn't even know who

1459
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 5: we were. And then you know, there's probably of the

1460
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 5: maybe there was a thousand people there at one point,

1461
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 5: but when we went up there there was one hundred

1462
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,919
Speaker 5: people or something. And but boy went cart when we started,

1463
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 5: they all got up and they all started dancing, and

1464
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 5: so it was like this funny moment of like we're

1465
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 5: just something, we got something going on, and that sort

1466
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 5: of round Shawsville and then you know, we started, you know,

1467
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 5: got a couple of odd gigs here and there, and

1468
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 5: they didn't always work out, but there was something that

1469
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 5: pulled us. And I think, you know, it was meeting

1470
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 5: the right people who had had ideas about how we

1471
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 5: could get up in front of more people, and you know,

1472
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 5: it's starting to play in universities and and the words

1473
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 5: started started going around. I think the fact that we

1474
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 5: didn't have a lot of music and we improvised and

1475
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 5: and we had to make shit up and and so

1476
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 5: the shows were varied and different. Like I think that

1477
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 5: I remember there was a lot of colleges when we

1478
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 5: played that where people, do you know, any replacements, And

1479
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 5: we'd be like, no, no, you guys suck.

1480
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: You know, so you're telling me that your your college

1481
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: presence was based on filling in for other acts, because

1482
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: that's how.

1483
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 2: We came up.

1484
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 5: And it wasn't it was eventually it wasn't that. I mean,

1485
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 5: it was like but I mean we went from like

1486
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 5: sometimes being accepted because somebody in a college liked us,

1487
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 5: to like sort of like colleges where we'd go to

1488
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,839
Speaker 5: places we'd never played before and everyone to be singing

1489
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 5: our and we didn't have any music out and everyone to.

1490
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: Be singing along. It got really it.

1491
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 5: We got this little cult thing in the in the

1492
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 5: in the universities that was kind of crazy, you know.

1493
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 5: I remember we went up to we we had this

1494
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 5: nightmare where we drove over these snowy mountains. We were

1495
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 5: supposed to go around the mountains because it was the

1496
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 5: middle of winter in Maine and it, but we didn't.

1497
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 5: Nobody they sent us the wrong instructions and we went

1498
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 5: over the top and it was a nightmare. We we

1499
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 5: would slid down a mountain in a van with a trailer,

1500
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 5: and we got there. We were pretty we were pretty hot,

1501
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 5: and we were and we were two hours late. They

1502
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 5: were like you're late, and you know, we're like, fuck you.

1503
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 5: Then when we got on stage and we started playing,

1504
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 5: the crowd was really excited and they were a priority,

1505
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 5: you know, wasted, but they all started singing all the

1506
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 5: music so loud, all the songs to us, and so

1507
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 5: it was kind of like, just what the hell's happening.

1508
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 5: We haven't even been here.

1509
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: We never amount what year was the sea change for you,

1510
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: like what year was the year in which and how

1511
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: attimidating was it to like wait a minute, What do

1512
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: you mean we could play stadiums now like.

1513
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember getting to the one of the

1514
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 5: guys who worked with us, one of our A and

1515
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 5: R guys, when we played before we had put out

1516
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 5: an album or anything, but we were going to put

1517
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 5: out an album and we were playing like Irving Plaza,

1518
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 5: I think, and it was packed and the and the

1519
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 5: head of our record company said how much money did

1520
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 5: we have to pay to get all these people here?

1521
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 5: And you know, so much. It was so disconnected sort

1522
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 5: of the record industry where we were was just that

1523
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 5: they had nothing. He couldn't even need it him and

1524
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 5: like he had barely heard of us, and so you know,

1525
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 5: it was it was a funny. We were almost like

1526
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 5: chasing in a funny way. We were working hard, but

1527
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 5: we were like chasing our chasing the audience in a

1528
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 5: funny way. We weren't, but they were chase sing us.

1529
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 5: I don't know what the right analogy would be.

1530
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, it seems like it's a small amount of groups

1531
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 8: in this world that have existed that have a following

1532
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 8: in common like you, Like I was just talking to

1533
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 8: I have a high school girlfriend. As long as y'all

1534
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 8: have been out her and another girlfriend have been following

1535
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 8: you guys, and they've done like up the coast. They

1536
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 8: started at the top and they've gone down. These are

1537
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 8: black girls, which is also kind of really dope too

1538
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 8: because they say they see each other at Dave Matthew show.

1539
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 8: This's like, that's a whole nother contingency of like black

1540
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 8: people who were like.

1541
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 4: Really literally physically follow you. Yeah, it's really really Four.

1542
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,560
Speaker 1: Of my staff members are like true Dave heads and shouts.

1543
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 4: To kandas Bobo and sing of parents.

1544
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 8: They wanted me to say their names in this episode.

1545
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 7: I question, in the thirty years of touring and whatever,

1546
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 7: what's the best thing you've seen from the stage that

1547
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 7: you say on the microphone back to Carter just laughed

1548
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 7: from the band, what's the best thing?

1549
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 5: All I can think about is uh is is teddy?

1550
01:22:59,479 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 2: It is?

1551
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 5: You know, and it was you know, there's definitely definitely

1552
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 5: jazz Fest. It seems like jazz Fest.

1553
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 10: There's Yes, you think I will say something that's funny

1554
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,719
Speaker 10: that if you just if you just look a little further,

1555
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 10: like because usually it's on someone's shoulders.

1556
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 5: Yes, So I think it's funny when the person that's

1557
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 5: carrying the person that has the titties doesn't know.

1558
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: That that are out.

1559
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 5: And may not know, but when they sometimes when they

1560
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 5: find out, there's a sort of like suddenly there's people

1561
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 5: and then everyone's excited and that. But so that there's

1562
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 5: there's a there's a different there's different nuance, there's it's

1563
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 5: an it's it can be a nuanced situation where there's

1564
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:03,520
Speaker 5: different emotional there's different input, there's different excitement and different perspectives.

1565
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 8: Not just based on alcohol content too anything.

1566
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 5: Not as any boobs nowadays, as you know, they're back,

1567
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 5: different boobs I have.

1568
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 2: I have a non titty question, if that's all right.

1569
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: So with regards to what we were discussing with touring,

1570
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 2: and you mentioned the Grateful Dead and you mentioned you

1571
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 2: played you opened up for them once so at the time,

1572
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure if we're around the same age

1573
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: or whatever, but I was in ninety three. Let's say

1574
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: you mentioned I was twenty three, and we had in college,

1575
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: we had seen a lot of Grateful Dead shows prior

1576
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:50,879
Speaker 2: to Jerry passing away, and either they were either winding

1577
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: down or he had already passed and you were on

1578
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: an upward trajectory or just come out in a way,

1579
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 2: and at least in my little group, it was like,

1580
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: well what now, And then it was kind of like, well,

1581
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: Dave Matthews band, Now you were there, you were going

1582
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 2: to be the next saying well, not necessarily, but like

1583
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: the next the next band that people could uh literally

1584
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 2: follow around physically and travel around and tour with them

1585
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: and tailgate and have that whole kind of deadhead type

1586
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: of situation. So did you sense any of that or

1587
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 2: was that just between me and my friends where we

1588
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 2: heard felt that you were the next coming of let's

1589
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: say that type of touring.

1590
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we definitely felt like some I definitely

1591
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 5: remember feeling like some some of that was happening, But

1592
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 5: then you know that was I also think about like

1593
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 5: Fish were you know, Peers and and and and they

1594
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 5: definitely held that place. And then when I think about

1595
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 5: the bands we kind of came up in this in

1596
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 5: that time, I suppose somewhat a culture of seventies rock

1597
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 5: and a lot of that being the dead was like

1598
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 5: if you think of there was a like Colonel Bruce,

1599
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 5: and there were all these sort of interesting bands that

1600
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 5: were also sort of a crossover with jazz and stuff.

1601
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 5: So there was there seemed like there was a sort

1602
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 5: of a groundswell of bands that were kind of doing that,

1603
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 5: and and we were super lucky, obviously, and so I

1604
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 5: felt that. I remember we were in We're in, like

1605
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 5: within a couple of days of Jerry dying, we were

1606
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 5: in San Francisco, and I remember walking around, you know, uh,

1607
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 5: and and people were like literally in the people walking

1608
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 5: around the streets, literally saying what do we do?

1609
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: Right?

1610
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 5: No, it was it was It was kind of amazing

1611
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 5: to see these people who's who had like there there whatever,

1612
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 5: how wherever they were in their adult lives, had really

1613
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 5: been wrapped around around that culture. Sure, And I don't

1614
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 5: think anyone will ever replace that or take over. And

1615
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 5: we may have certainly gotten some of that or been,

1616
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 5: you know, in some ways similar to what they represent

1617
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 5: and at times maybe more effective in in our spontaneity

1618
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 5: than others, but I don't think. I don't think that ever.

1619
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 5: You know, they were so unique that I I kind

1620
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 5: of felt, even though it wasn't part of as big

1621
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 5: a part of my my musical upbringing, when I was

1622
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 5: in San Francisco's walking around and people were going, like,

1623
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 5: what are we going to do? Like, I was like Wow,

1624
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 5: this this is like a This is like a different

1625
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 5: world of musical cult, musical devotion that I've never you

1626
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 5: know that. I mean, the Beatles had Theirs, but they

1627
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 5: never had anything like that. They never had like people

1628
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 5: going what am I going to do? I remember being

1629
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 5: heartbroken when John Lennon died, but it wasn't going to

1630
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 5: change my bus schedule.

1631
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 2: You know, when the but when the Beatles broke up,

1632
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 2: there were people running around saying, what are we gonna do?

1633
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: Oh wait, let me let me ask Like for you, though,

1634
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: is a jam ban a four letter word to you?

1635
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 2: Because I don't, I don't.

1636
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, you guys are way more advanced than I'll say,

1637
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: at least eighty percent of that circuit. I mean, there's

1638
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 1: some cats now, like Snirky Puppy that's kicking ass, but.

1639
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 5: They're kicking ass and then you.

1640
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 6: Know they're not but they're not right, they're not.

1641
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 5: But it's interesting though, because that's that's scripted. I think

1642
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 5: it's where we didn't decide. You don't decide where you go,

1643
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 5: where you get put, you know, in some ways, and

1644
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 5: so I don't feel like that. I never, uh, I

1645
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 5: felt like we belonged to that I always thought that

1646
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 5: was a somewhat it was just a term convenient, you know,

1647
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 5: sort of odd, uh, you know, and that we got

1648
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 5: an audience and and we get to play for them,

1649
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 5: and it and I you know, in a weird way,

1650
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 5: jam band. I don't know who came up with it,

1651
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 5: but it's you know, obviously jamming, as people do that.

1652
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 5: But but it seemed to be somewhat dismissive, you know.

1653
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, if someone seas in jam band, it's

1654
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 1: usually in a disparaging way, like a critic.

1655
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 2: Jam.

1656
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 6: Well, the thing was we try.

1657
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: To avoid it because I saw some of the bands

1658
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: catching flack for it. But then you know, for us,

1659
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: I feel like, especially in the state of black music,

1660
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: the band is dying, the group is dying, the level

1661
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: of musicianship is dying. So we're now we have this

1662
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: like vigorous, like purpose to literally carry the history of

1663
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: like a hundred years of black music on our.

1664
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 6: Backs in our show.

1665
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: So we gotta do break beats, and we got to

1666
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: do hip hop, and we gotta do jazz.

1667
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 6: And we got like so I think our thing is

1668
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 6: a little different.

1669
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: And also in this place where I just I've learned

1670
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 1: not to manage people's expectations anymore. So you know if

1671
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: you notice, like I, well, I don't know if you know,

1672
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: it's not being at roots shows. But I purposely stopped

1673
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: doing drum solos like maybe in two thousand and seven

1674
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to get pegged as a jam band.

1675
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, I'll stop doing drum solos. But

1676
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean now I don't care. But it's just like

1677
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: I think, you know, well, his jam band might be

1678
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: my Neil Soul, Like I remember, like, I'm not Neil Soul.

1679
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 6: That's something that a carpate board made up.

1680
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: So that's why I wanted to know if jam band

1681
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: was a four letter word.

1682
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 5: So I get where you're coming from with that too,

1683
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 5: because but mainly as as a dismissive thing. Because the

1684
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 5: funny part is that, you know, when I first heard Carter,

1685
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 5: he was playing in a band called Secrets, and its

1686
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 5: like this most insane fusion band and a bunch of

1687
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 5: different you know, Tim had played with them, and I

1688
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 5: think Roy may have sat in with them a few times.

1689
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 2: There's I mean, they.

1690
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 5: Were crazy, an insane band. Everybody was better than the

1691
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 5: other guy, you know, and I used to watch them

1692
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 5: and then Roy. I mean he played anything, but I'd

1693
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,520
Speaker 5: see him, he'd be playing jazz and and and beautiful.

1694
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 5: Just you know, the first one of the first times

1695
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 5: I ever saw Roy, I just could I couldn't even

1696
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 5: believe that that this this gem lived in this town I'd.

1697
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 2: Moved to to be closer to my mom.

1698
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 5: You know. I was like, oh my god, this guy's insane,

1699
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 5: and and and and and Stefan was like this he

1700
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 5: came suggested to us. So the backgrounds of where everyone

1701
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 5: came from was not from like it wasn't because everyone

1702
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 5: was listening to the Dead, so we didn't have that

1703
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 5: connection to that that idea, right, And I had one.

1704
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 5: I had one Dead album. It was acoustic record. And

1705
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 5: every time I start describing it Dead fans go, oh,

1706
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 5: you had that record, so but uh and I loved it,

1707
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 5: but I you know, but uh, it was it was

1708
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 5: a lot. Yeah, probably it was a it was a

1709
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 5: live record, it was a studio, it was.

1710
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 2: The acoustic Yeah. At it was front a radio city

1711
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 2: music hall.

1712
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:04,839
Speaker 6: Steve, you're a deadhead.

1713
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm dead head adjacent. All my friends, my friends in

1714
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 2: in college were Deadheads. So they dragged me to a

1715
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 2: bunch of shows, and you know, but as you guys

1716
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,839
Speaker 2: are talking, I mean there's there's there's obviously crossover between

1717
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 2: a band like The Grateful Dead and Dave Matthews Band,

1718
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 2: even though there's no direct influences necessarily, and then there's

1719
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 2: there's crossover in the audience between the Roots and the

1720
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 2: Dave Matthews band. I've been at at festivals. Absolutely the

1721
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 2: Roots fit in great with quote unquote jam bands the

1722
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 2: same same set.

1723
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:36,560
Speaker 1: You know, well, I think if anything, we've learned a

1724
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 1: shape sift, so you know, we we've safe shifted to

1725
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: any band that we open for.

1726
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 2: So it's just like live, I love it. Thank you

1727
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 2: ever meet Jerry that one time you opened up for him?

1728
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 2: Did you meet him? I did not.

1729
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 5: We had this, We have this habit and we did

1730
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 5: it with a lot of the bands that we opened

1731
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 5: up for. Is we would just stay out of the way.

1732
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 5: And I don't know what it is, just like we're

1733
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 5: going to open up, Like if we're going to open

1734
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 5: up for the Stones, just go to your dressing room.

1735
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 5: We shut the fuck up and and then and then

1736
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 5: the weird thing is that a lot of the time

1737
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 5: then you do meet them, so you know, you get

1738
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 5: to meet Bob or you get to. But I didn't

1739
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 5: meet Jerry that time.

1740
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: You know, see you've never done a dead End Company

1741
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 1: or Phil Lesson Friends or none of that.

1742
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 5: I haven't, you know, maybe I have not.

1743
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 7: That's one final question. Yes, Dave, your your band has

1744
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,759
Speaker 7: covered a lot of tunes. Peter gabriel A, Bob Dylan.

1745
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 7: What's the song you Yeah, that's sledgehammer, God damn sledgehammer slamming.

1746
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 7: It always has been whatever Jesus Christ, Dave, like, what's

1747
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 7: what's what? What's the song you wish you wrote? What's

1748
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 7: the one song you wish that you sledgehammer?

1749
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 5: But but it's so outside, you know, I mean, that's

1750
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 5: a that's a that's a that's an insane that's a

1751
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 5: perfect song. You know, it's like the whole I don't

1752
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 5: know it's it's perfect, It's it's impossible. There's a lot

1753
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 5: of songs I wish I wrote, and and but I you.

1754
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 2: Know, what's your favorite Beatles song?

1755
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 5: That's that's an impossible thing to say.

1756
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 2: But uh, well you answer the Starbucks question, you know,

1757
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 2: Whi's your favorite drink? You can answer this, but like.

1758
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 5: So quickly too, he do, like, well, I know that

1759
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 5: if I pull over in Starbucks exactly what I can have.

1760
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 5: It's gonna right, I know what it's you know, but

1761
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 5: I mean my mood will change. Hay, bull dog is pretty.

1762
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 2: That's some o. There you go, man, that's start at work.

1763
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 2: There you go, nice, Hay.

1764
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: Before I close, I I want to test out my

1765
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: rapid fire random ten, which I think I'm gonna lean

1766
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,480
Speaker 1: more into that for future episodes.

1767
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 5: All right, Dave, I'm really slow at this.

1768
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, just rapid fire. Say what's on

1769
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 6: your mind?

1770
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: All right?

1771
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: What what is your secret talent that we don't know?

1772
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 5: I think I'm a pretty good I made. Maybe I

1773
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 5: could have been an artist in a different life, straight tar, Yeah,

1774
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 5: it might have been a painter. Maybe if I.

1775
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: Wait, do you do paint in your spare time?

1776
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm all right.

1777
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 6: I'm a collector of artwork, so I'll be coming for you.

1778
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 5: Okay.

1779
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: Anyway, text call or facetiming.

1780
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 5: Text and face times. No one calls anyone. That's a

1781
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 5: shitty question. No one calls anyone who calls people over

1782
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 5: forty call? Yeah, my wife calls me and I always

1783
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 5: look at it expecting her face to turn up. But

1784
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 5: then I always FaceTime her and then she has me

1785
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 5: in the cup holder or wherever, because.

1786
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 8: Some people think it's rude to FaceTime cold. You supposed

1787
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 8: to text or something first?

1788
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I hate that. I hate the bell.

1789
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 5: Yeah I text. I generally text.

1790
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 6: It's pizza Knight, you're ordering?

1791
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 2: What do you order? Oh?

1792
01:35:58,040 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 6: This is pressure.

1793
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 5: Fresh or a lot of meat?

1794
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 2: Wow?

1795
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 7: So wait, yeah that's it cuzin Jake fresh beds or

1796
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 7: lots of meat either way.

1797
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 4: I mean, wait, ther you gotta ask him if you're

1798
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia, is it a cheese steak or is it

1799
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 4: a chicken cheese steak?

1800
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 5: I don't want to. I gotta tell you. I don't

1801
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 5: want to cross. I always want you have to tell me?

1802
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 2: Where do this?

1803
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 5: Is how I answer that question? Where should I get?

1804
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: Oh?

1805
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 4: No, no no.

1806
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: From now on, I'm sending every comrade of mine j

1807
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: L just shut up like uters. Yes, I give them

1808
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: jail Jupiter's YouTube page and he will lead them to

1809
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 1: the best steaks.

1810
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 2: All right?

1811
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 6: How many? How many?

1812
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 1: And I got five more left and then I'll let

1813
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,719
Speaker 1: you go. Dave, how many the unread texts are in your.

1814
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 5: Phone that that I have not read that someone else

1815
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 5: has sent me? I well, I suppose that's the only

1816
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 5: ones there be right right now.

1817
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,759
Speaker 6: There are three hundred and thirty five in my phone.

1818
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 5: None.

1819
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 6: I'm gonna text Dave Matthews and blow this sh it up.

1820
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 5: I don't always respond, but I always check, all right,

1821
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,480
Speaker 5: so you least check, but you don't respond.

1822
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 4: But you're not an email person.

1823
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 6: Like a million a million about you know.

1824
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 8: Under it, Dave, you be careful of the read receipts,

1825
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 8: the red receipts. Okay, be careful of that since you're

1826
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 8: not answering them. You know, people can see when you're

1827
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 8: looking at the text message.

1828
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 6: You can hide it. You can hide it now, I

1829
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 6: don't care.

1830
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 5: Oh little thing that does this.

1831
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 4: No, we get a message and says he read it.

1832
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 6: He just right exactly. I know there.

1833
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: But there's a there's a there's a switch button on

1834
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 1: your iPhone that can take that off.

1835
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 6: I immediately did that because.

1836
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, I know you read it, because it as

1837
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 1: you read it, and so I was like, nope, I'm not.

1838
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 6: I don't trust that ship.

1839
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes I if it's like a holiday or it's

1840
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 5: my birthday, I'll just paste like thanks love you, and yeah,

1841
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 5: oh god, yes, thanks love you love you. Thanks. I mean,

1842
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 5: but it's like that sometimes you just have to take it.

1843
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 4: You have like Happy Father's Day, Thanks, love you, thanks.

1844
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 5: Quality one back at you all right?

1845
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 2: Four more?

1846
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 6: What's your ice cream flavor?

1847
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 5: I love ice cream. There's a great place, Molly Moon's

1848
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 5: here in Seattle that I love. But this's I love all.

1849
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 5: I love ice cream. But I gotta tell you there

1850
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 5: was this my most emotional response. There's uh, and it's

1851
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 5: you know, I wish it was organic, but it's ice

1852
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 5: it's ice cream. I wish it was healthy. It's ice cream.

1853
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 5: Is uh black raspberry chocolate ice cream from.

1854
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 2: It's a it's a specific grocery.

1855
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 4: Raspberry with chocolate chips. No, no, no, no, that's cherry

1856
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 4: not but.

1857
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 5: It's it's black. I think it's black chocolate. It's just

1858
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 5: it's not there's no lumps or chunks. Oh, it's a.

1859
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 4: Great connoisseur of the ice cream. So that's that's that's different.

1860
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 5: It's from a grow it's it's like it's made by

1861
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 5: but I can't remember the chain. But I was really

1862
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 5: into it, and then I was like, I can't just

1863
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 5: that's the only time I've had a.

1864
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 4: Really did you have your own flavor, no of the ben.

1865
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 5: And Jerry's never naked like fish. It didn't make ry.

1866
01:39:56,200 --> 01:40:00,040
Speaker 5: I think we had Jerry, Jerry gar.

1867
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: That's Jerry Garcia is good. I do the fish food

1868
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 2: is good to.

1869
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:04,799
Speaker 6: Fish food is a game change.

1870
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 4: I gotta try it.

1871
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 6: I don't know what's next.

1872
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, we're making your questions long.

1873
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, what time do you wake up? And what

1874
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: are the first three things you do when you wake up?

1875
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: That's habitual every day?

1876
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 6: You are very good at this.

1877
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

1878
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 5: So when I'm at home, I like to wake up

1879
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 5: early and take my boy to school, although that's going

1880
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 5: to end soon because he's compared. But I like the

1881
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:39,600
Speaker 5: process of getting up with him. But when I'm on

1882
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 5: the road, I don't have to do that. So and

1883
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 5: then I like, if I get up before my wife,

1884
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 5: then I don't do this. But if I do get

1885
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 5: up after her, I like to make the bed and

1886
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:53,839
Speaker 5: always the first thing.

1887
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 2: I do is uh.

1888
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 5: Is is make myself coffee. I like to make my

1889
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:02,720
Speaker 5: wife coffee, but I don't always know how she likes

1890
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 5: it because we're always changing. But I like, I just

1891
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 5: like that's the first thing I don't want to I

1892
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 5: don't want to do anything else.

1893
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 2: That's what I want to do. That's what I do.

1894
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 5: First on the road, I I uh, coffee and then exercise.

1895
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 5: But at home, coffee and then think, wish I should

1896
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 5: be going to exercise. That's what I think. Like I've

1897
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 5: been busy, but but it's been three I've been home

1898
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,520
Speaker 5: for a few days, and every day I say, tomorrow

1899
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 5: I'm going to exercise, and then I don't.

1900
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a trick for that.

1901
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 8: All you got to do is put your workout clothes

1902
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 8: on in the beginning of day when you wake up,

1903
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 8: and it'll.

1904
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 5: Be almost do I look. I look at I look

1905
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 5: at them, and then I go, yeah, but I'm going

1906
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 5: to put those other ones on and I'll put the

1907
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 5: work on later. I don't know that I put on

1908
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 5: my and my work got clothes involved, just so you know,

1909
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 5: also involved, like the the compression knee things, which is good,

1910
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 5: and so I put the compression knee things on. Sometimes

1911
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 5: I'll put the compression knee things on and my whole

1912
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 5: workout outfit, which is pretty amazing. And then I don't

1913
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 5: work out sometimes because you're.

1914
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 4: Tired from putting on all that compression ship.

1915
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 5: That's it.

1916
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 4: Will tire you out.

1917
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay. If the universe grants you a five

1918
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 1: year extension to prolong your favorite age.

1919
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 9: You.

1920
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 6: This shit, like, what is happening?

1921
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:42,600
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm just I threw the script away and

1922
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: I'm just having the common my friend. The universe allows

1923
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: you to live five years age in your favorite age?

1924
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 1: What age would it be?

1925
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 6: And why?

1926
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 5: This is what's coming to my mind, and so I

1927
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 5: have to say it, but I would. I was going

1928
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 5: to say fifty six, which is what I am. But

1929
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 5: i'm because I'm feeling pretty good. But though an age

1930
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 5: that struck me was fifty, I didn't think when I

1931
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 5: turned fifty that i'd be that I would notice something.

1932
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 5: But I noticed something that I wish I noticed when

1933
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 5: I was thirty, which is I I didn't stop giving

1934
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 5: a fuck, but I stopped giving a fuck about ship

1935
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 5: that I shouldn't give too much of a fuck about.

1936
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 4: Oh, teach me great one.

1937
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: Oh, because I was managing people's expectations.

1938
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I stopped.

1939
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 5: I was like, if you know, did I do something wrong?

1940
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 5: I didn't think wrong. I'm trying. I want to be

1941
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 5: I want to be present, I want to be helpful.

1942
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 5: I want to be that but but I but you know,

1943
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 5: I I stopped caring. Playing music start to be easier

1944
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 5: because I was I felt like people would rather see

1945
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 5: me stick my tongue out and have a good time

1946
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 5: than when I'm playing on stage. Then they would want

1947
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 5: to see me wondering whether I am doing my job.

1948
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: Well, okay, all right.

1949
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 6: Second to last, is it existential?

1950
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 1: Is the grass greener on the other side?

1951
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 5: I like that. Wasn't there a book in the seventies

1952
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 5: that was that was called The Grass is Always Greener

1953
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 5: over the Septic Tank?

1954
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Timothy Leary.

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Speaker 5: O Timothy Leary Really, no, really, I mean I made

1956
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 5: it up. I made it up. I was totally about that.

1957
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 5: Sound right, not at all, not at all, Like there's

1958
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 5: a rat at dinner. I don't know what's happening. But

1959
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 5: we did actually have a septic problem when I was

1960
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 5: a kid in New York and uh out on the

1961
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 5: front lawn. We didn't realize, but then the septic tank

1962
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 5: blew up. We had to have it, you know, draink

1963
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 5: whatever you do. You had that new one put in

1964
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 5: or they had to have a drain. I don't know

1965
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 5: what happened anyway, anyway, Then tomatoes started growing on the

1966
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 5: lawn and so my mom was like, free tomatoes. And

1967
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 5: my brother's like, I'm not eating the tomatoes. They're poop tomatoes.

1968
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:21,600
Speaker 6: They're poop tomatoes.

1969
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were. They went through us and then they

1970
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 5: when they grew in the yard.

1971
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 2: Wait, that's such a thing.

1972
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:32,480
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think if you poop tomatoes seeds and you

1973
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 5: you turn the soil no, and then you turn the

1974
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 5: soil no. Day with us, there's a My brother said,

1975
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 5: I'm not eating those tomatoes because I don't. I don't

1976
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 5: not eating those poop tomatoes. That's disgusting. Did he see

1977
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 5: tomatoes is gone?

1978
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 1: This might be my favorite interview.

1979
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 5: Like there's weird things that happened, like fig, Like is

1980
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 5: it a fig? The fig is the fig that in

1981
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 5: order for a fig to be no, in order no

1982
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 5: fig to be to turn into a fruit to be furl,

1983
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 5: it has a wasp has to have maybe have been

1984
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 5: to another the opposite sex and then get stuck in

1985
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 5: the flour and then the wasp gets absorbed into the fig.

1986
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 5: So when you eat aig, there's been a wasp that

1987
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 5: was absorbed. It's no longer there. There's not like a

1988
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 5: wing in there. But I'm just there's gross things out there,

1989
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 5: it is.

1990
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 4: And badly they use coffee made from shit, right, so.

1991
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 6: National theographic Dave matt All right, what's your last one?

1992
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 2: Here?

1993
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Dave Matthews. How many push ups can you do?

1994
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 5: Go? I think I could do thirty?

1995
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 2: No?

1996
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, that's that's impressives.

1997
01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:58,480
Speaker 4: That's impressive.

1998
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 2: Really joke, go ahead, go ahead.

1999
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do it right now.

2000
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I.

2001
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 8: Mean I thought she was going to ask the other question.

2002
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 8: Dave yay or nay micro dos.

2003
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 5: Yes, Dave the a I knew he was with us,

2004
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:17,719
Speaker 5: of course and sometimes.

2005
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 6: Macroads macroadis.

2006
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 7: Dave, did you just not do a great interview on

2007
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 7: Howard Stern where we talked about how you wrote, uh,

2008
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:30,560
Speaker 7: the title track to your last album on mushrooms.

2009
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 2: Oh, certainly was fantastic.

2010
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 5: Certainly some of it because it was it was I

2011
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,759
Speaker 5: mean that was I mean, it was for my good fortune.

2012
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 2: There there there are there are.

2013
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 5: Around sometimes and mushrooms and uh and that pandemic.

2014
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 6: Mm hmmmlict it's the mushroom seems like a good time,

2015
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 6: I mean, why not? What the fuck?

2016
01:47:54,720 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dog, this is def mean like doing

2017
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 1: the show with it with an old friend.

2018
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 6: Because I hardly asked.

2019
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 1: I hope your publicist and your label ain't mad that

2020
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: we didn't talk more about song structure and sorry, the

2021
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 1: records great, Yes, sorry, we don't need you know.

2022
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 5: Thank you man, I appreciate it. I really enjoyed talking.

2023
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 5: And this is what I want to talk about. What

2024
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:21,560
Speaker 5: we talked about exactly.

2025
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:22,759
Speaker 2: Well, that was beautiful.

2026
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have you back on some more joy.

2027
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 5: And I'm as nice as hang out with you all.

2028
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you I mean your question. It's I'm

2029
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 5: always happy to see you.

2030
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.

2031
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 5: And I love you your music, and I think you're

2032
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 5: unbelievable and I and I love the work you're doing.

2033
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 5: And I you know that I love Mutical how much

2034
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 5: that film meant to me, and you know, or that series.

2035
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 5: It's just like I can't tell you exqueeze it, but

2036
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 5: I just made me so happy. Like it's like I

2037
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 5: love looking for the truth that's in our history and

2038
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,600
Speaker 5: and and I just and and you did it so

2039
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 5: eloquently and uh shared with everyone. I think is just magic.

2040
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 5: And so thanks for having me.

2041
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:14,640
Speaker 1: Stop smiling like you because she she's smiling because he

2042
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:17,679
Speaker 1: knows that you're doing good. No, I love, I love

2043
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 1: the compliment.

2044
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 8: He wasn't all you know, he wasn't always able to

2045
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 8: take the flowers. So he's doing real good.

2046
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 4: He's still cutting you off slightly, but he's this is

2047
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 4: really good, this is progress.

2048
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: I gotta go because I have another interview to do.

2049
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:30,640
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.

2050
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 2: Really awesome.

2051
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: They can be half on, behalf of Unpaid Bill and

2052
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 1: Sugar Steve and like the great Dave Matthews, we will

2053
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: see you next time on Quest Love Supreme.

2054
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2055
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a reduction of high Heart grad

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