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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hi David, Look, everybody's here.

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Speaker 1: It's like the whole here's the story of a man

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Speaker 1: named Questy. Okay, yes, it's all of us here. But

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Speaker 1: it's very nice to see you. Great to see you too, sir.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Quest Love. Hey guys, when can we

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Speaker 1: call it the award winning Quest Love.

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Speaker 4: Supreme five years ago?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Really, that's I like that. That's right now.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the illustrious, award winning Quest

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Speaker 3: Love Supreme.

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Speaker 2: There you go, right, I'm excited to be part of this.

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Speaker 3: Actually, if you're if you're really good, we might make

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Speaker 3: you part of the team. So that's that's the joy

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Speaker 3: of coming. Yes, we might just steal you away. Right

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Speaker 3: now we are with our Team Supreme members. Uh suc

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Speaker 3: How is life?

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Speaker 5: It's like quarantine, but you get to leave the house

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Speaker 5: and do whatever the heck you want and work on

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Speaker 5: all the ship you ever wanted to work on. And

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Speaker 5: the first single from your record dropping this Friday from

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Speaker 5: Plumb on JMI coming out Brown Doves on Friday. Quest

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Speaker 5: Love and you.

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Speaker 3: Sort of seen showing G's face when he learned that

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Speaker 3: I have a jazz.

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Speaker 6: Record coming out, So yeah, he knows about it anyway.

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Speaker 1: On Paid Bill, Yeah, man, how's life post Tony great?

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Speaker 7: I didn't win shit. Tony's were wonderful. Uh, it's whiskey Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Who won? Who won? What?

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Speaker 2: All of them?

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Speaker 4: I guess and Juliet didn't win. Y'all didn't get it.

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Speaker 7: And Juliet did not win a Tony. But that's okay

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Speaker 7: because we're the doors are still open.

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Speaker 4: Y'all still the ship though, thank you who winning.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious.

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Speaker 7: Kimberly A Kimbo won a lot of Tony's, mostly for

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Speaker 7: Best Musical, et cetera, et cetera. It was a weird thing.

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Speaker 7: It's very called kimberly A Kimberla kimberly A Kimbo.

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Speaker 4: What's the part? What's the play called?

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Speaker 2: Bill?

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Speaker 4: That's why I think he's asking.

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's that's what it's called. It's called kimberly A Kimbo.

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Speaker 7: I wish I could tell you something about it. I've

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Speaker 7: not seen it, so I don't know. So I'm just

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Speaker 7: gonna drink whiskey On Wednesdays.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Kim Lelya, Kimblo, Laia, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I know we're in the same city and I failed

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Speaker 3: to tell you I've been here for a week.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I want to give you the shade friend I do.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, A very good friend of mine, very

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Speaker 3: a very very good friend of mine is coming to

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Speaker 3: visit us. On the show, I will say that our

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Speaker 3: guests his namesake. He is the founding member and of

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Speaker 3: one of the most powerful. Well, the way that laugh came,

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Speaker 3: I hope you are the founding member of the band.

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Speaker 3: That's your namesake, so anyway, one of the most powerful,

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Speaker 3: one of the most creative, one of the most exciting,

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Speaker 3: one of the most loved popular bands in all of

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Speaker 3: the world. I will say that this band has I

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Speaker 3: mean a mixture of cult following and mainstream because the

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Speaker 3: numbers are there, you know they have mainstream following as well.

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Speaker 3: We do all know the hits. We know crass and

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Speaker 3: to me, AT's marching too much crush. I also just

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Speaker 3: realized that this group they've released non studio albums, but however,

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Speaker 3: they are the first band to have seven albums debut

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Speaker 3: at number one and he's giving us the honor right

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Speaker 3: now celebrating him with him their newest album, which is

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Speaker 3: entitled Walk Around the Moon. What can I say, Man,

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Speaker 3: one of the nicest guys on earth, if you ever

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Speaker 3: have the.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure of opening for this guy, he will actually.

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Speaker 3: Introduce you and stand on stage and watch you before

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Speaker 3: him in front of the crowd of fifteen.

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Speaker 1: But what more can I say?

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Speaker 2: That was extremely generous, I mean generous, but also precisely true.

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Speaker 1: I have a hilarious story.

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Speaker 3: So when we first started opening for Dave, one of

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Speaker 3: our very first shows was in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and there

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Speaker 3: were I guess as far as the comp ticket situation

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Speaker 3: was concerned, I believe each member because it was Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: and our families were coming, Like I think each family

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Speaker 3: member got like each band member got eight tickets. And

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Speaker 3: the thing was I didn't have anyone coming to see

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Speaker 1: Like we weren't in the tunnel with Dave's.

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Speaker 3: Forty two trillion tour buses, so we were kind of

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Speaker 3: and there were so many people there that were like

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Speaker 3: desperate for tickets, like anything, any tickets I would take

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Speaker 3: my kids to see Dave Matthews. So I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: I got eight tickets. I'll just give it to them.

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Speaker 3: So I'm in Philadelphia, in my own town. Now it's

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Speaker 3: two thousand and three. So yes, we already want to Grammy.

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Speaker 1: We're you know, we're not.

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Speaker 2: You know, you guys are killing It was so exciting

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Speaker 2: that you guys were we're playing with us.

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Speaker 1: Well here's the thing though. Here's the thing though.

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Speaker 3: So I'm figuring, like, wow, I'm watching this dad struggle

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Speaker 3: four tickets that he needs, and.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. But I know it's going to be funny.

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Speaker 1: It was such a pie.

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Speaker 3: In the face moment because it was like, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if he just wasn't used to acts that generous

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Speaker 3: or anything, but he did not trust that my tickets

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Speaker 3: were legit. And I was like, well, I'm the opening act.

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Speaker 3: I'm in the roots the Roots, and he was like,

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Speaker 3: I said, I'm one of the opening acts. See that's

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Speaker 3: my tour bus here, I'm giving you these four tickets,

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Speaker 3: and it's like he took him, but it was almost

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Speaker 3: like he was waiting for.

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Speaker 1: That proverbial amble to fall on his head. He still

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Speaker 3: I was like, well, you're going to go in the stadium, right,

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Speaker 3: It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, But it was as if

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Speaker 1: He was still stood.

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Speaker 3: There and been like, all right, does someone have four

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Speaker 3: tickets so I can get inside the Dave Matthews like

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Speaker 3: It's as if he did not believe that, so he

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Speaker 3: blocked his blessing. I hope he did not get in

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Speaker 3: and realized that he wrote really good seats, but I.

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Speaker 2: Wish you could have just taken them back. It seems

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Speaker 3: To well, it's Philadelphia, and Philadelphia is very non trusting,

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Speaker 3: especially of kind gestures and SI and it's end.

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Speaker 2: But it's also, you know, hometown, so you feel like,

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know what.

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Speaker 3: Dave, I'm just realizing that I've had some of the

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Speaker 3: most interesting career pivots courtesy of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like what, No, It just hit.

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Speaker 3: Me that I once fired an assistant at a Dave

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Speaker 3: me in scrabble, and like, so, I guess the rumor

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Speaker 3: when I fired my assistant.

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Speaker 1: But it was just she was a disrespectful way that

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Speaker 4: So and what does Dave have to do with that?

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Speaker 2: I immediately hired her.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, yo, Steve, Steve, do you know how

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Speaker 3: we got Dave Matthews?

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Speaker 2: I remember, I see, remember.

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Speaker 1: We stole from Dave Matthews. Like, good, we can, we

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Speaker 1: can go on forever. How you doing, man? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: We're on the road, except I'm home. My son just

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Speaker 3: Wait, you're conducting a podcast interview in the middle of

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Speaker 3: your Sun sixteenth birthday?

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Speaker 2: No the day after? So no, no, I would have

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Speaker 2: I think we we we scheduled this again and again,

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Speaker 2: that he would have cared because he probably he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: He didn't. I was available for him, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: And then I see, now you're in debt territory, noybe.

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Speaker 2: That was a little bit expressive. I mean, he there's

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Speaker 2: times that's I'm not selling him short. But but he's busy, right,

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Speaker 1: Thirteen to twenty two. I get it. I was that

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Speaker 2: There so and I know that I was busy. I

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Speaker 2: I you know, we're touring. It's the season, and so

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm doing, and I'm happily here and happy

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Speaker 2: to very happy to finally talk to you. I just

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Speaker 2: that I'm an insane fan so of yours and of

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Speaker 2: the roots, but also likewise, so when when I heard

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Speaker 2: be an interesting guest, I commonly said affirmative, thank.

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Speaker 3: You, and I appreciate that the love is mutual. Wait,

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Speaker 1: Because at least for me.

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Speaker 3: I will say there's probably two X that I've learned

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Speaker 3: the Beastie Boys when we really first started touring, and

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Speaker 3: and just the small things that we didn't know that

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Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, I don't have to yell

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Speaker 2: Next part skip the star first, Like, I have to

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Speaker 2: I was on the side of the stage. We were up.

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Speaker 2: It was a rainy day. I can't remember, but we

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Speaker 2: were both there. We just talked backstage just quickly as

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Speaker 2: never been on in ears with you guys. I mean

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Speaker 2: I heard you guys talking to each other like that, right,

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Speaker 2: hear you shouting the changing arrangement. It was my head.

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Speaker 2: I was just crazy. First of all, I will never

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Speaker 2: take that much responsibility for anything spontaneously. That's terrifying to me.

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Speaker 1: Because it was you.

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Speaker 2: No, well, I mean, but I mean, we do say,

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Speaker 2: let's change this, let's do this, what about it? We

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Speaker 2: go and we let things happen. But you're actually turning Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's all over.

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Speaker 1: You did something even better than that.

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Speaker 3: You were cracking jokes, and I was like, wait a minute, we.

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Speaker 1: Can actually crack jokes.

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Speaker 3: And you know, there there there was a turnaround or

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Speaker 1: You know, just riga morale or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And after we got done touring with you, I was like, yo,

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Speaker 4: They're still working.

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Speaker 4: The View is still working? Yeah, they tell you before

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Speaker 4: So you don't even expect that.

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Speaker 3: I was forcing the family business, like I would just

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Speaker 1: Would you like that or is that like no, just

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he answered it asking wait wait.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what was your first musical memory?

440
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute? Time out?

441
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 4: The first question we asked.

442
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: This is the level of comfort I have with Dave Matthews.

443
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: I legit, I forgot I was doing a podcast. I

444
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: was totally I let a half hour go by it.

445
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: I didn't even start the process.

446
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe he's doing his Remax remix and

447
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 4: start from the beginning.

448
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm here, so, uh, you know, if we have to

449
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: start again, I'm happy, no, no again, but I will

450
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: I will say this.

451
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Speaker 1: But the question was what was your first musical memory.

452
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: I would like to say my first live music that

453
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: I remember, Like, I think it was my first memory

454
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 2: because I think I was sitting between my mom's knees.

455
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: I was a little kid, you know, sort of, and

456
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: on the back of a flat bed truck. Pete Seeger

457
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: was playing the band really and I remember thinking that

458
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: guy's awesome and he was so weird. He was such

459
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: a weird, but he was so he had he was

460
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Speaker 2: so friendly, and so that's my first Like I feel

461
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: like the.

462
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Speaker 4: Country was this, Dave, because you've lived in a lot

463
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Speaker 4: of places. Where were you when you saw.

464
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: Up upstate not upstate New York, but you know, north

465
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Speaker 2: of New York City. So he was in Croaton quite a bit,

466
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: and uh in that area and uh was it turn

467
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: Turn Turn or I can't remember what song I don't

468
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: think he was. I can't remember what songs he was playing.

469
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: I just remember thinking this and people were you know,

470
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: it was relaxed and everything. But then I think my

471
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 2: when I was five years old, I remember liking the

472
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: Jackson five, So I'm not entirely sure whether that was

473
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: because why I fell in love with him was because

474
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: they had a fire i've, you know, right, But then

475
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: I really did love them, and then i've i've fell

476
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: in love with the Beatles, and I became I would say,

477
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: a bore until my brother opened my brain when I

478
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: was about ten, and my brother was turned me onto

479
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: other kinds of music, and and then I and then

480
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: it was the seventies, so I could listen to the

481
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: radio and you could hear you know, in the seventies,

482
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: you could have the radio on and it could be

483
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: like at least well PLJ or whatever it was. You know,

484
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: it was like, uh, it could be it would be

485
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: like John Denver and then Marvin Gay and then Paul

486
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: and then uh, you know, Donna Summers and then you know,

487
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Speaker 2: I remember my mom would always go to the radio

488
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: when Donna Summers came on, and she'd.

489
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Speaker 1: Be going, ah, love to love you baby, My mom

490
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Speaker 1: like I don't like.

491
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: This song right right, and then she waits for it

492
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Speaker 2: to be over, but I married my mom always running

493
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Speaker 2: to the radio and turning off the and that was

494
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: the only song I can remember her response. I think

495
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: it was just it was too much. There was too

496
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: much love making in that song for my mom.

497
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Speaker 3: Back when we scheduled this interview weeks ago, I watched

498
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: about three interviews of yours and.

499
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: They're pretty much they're pretty much the same format.

500
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: Like they talk about, you know, your beginnings of South Africa,

501
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: moving to the States, and then putting the band together.

502
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: They talk about, So I'm actually gonna.

503
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: Go back to where we were just tip five minutes ago.

504
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk to you like a friend, not as

505
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: a music expert.

506
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: Thank you.

507
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 3: So wait, no, no, no, I'm gonna ask you random things.

508
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: So I totally put I put my script away. All right,

509
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: So this is what I want to know, and this

510
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: is I'm asking you just your everyday life questions. Okay

511
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 3: for our listeners, I feel like you know a lot

512
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: about a person based on a Starbucks order.

513
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: What is your main order at Starbucks?

514
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: U uh an Americana with cream? All right?

515
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: What's that in English?

516
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: Steve?

517
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: Because you know that you gotta translate.

518
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: From espresso espresso with water in it.

519
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: Steve is our resident Starbucks at it.

520
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: I have. I have a coffee shop in Seattle that

521
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: you know, everyone has the best coffee shop in the world,

522
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: but this actually is the best coffee shop. And it's

523
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: called Lighthouse. And well, there's a there's some there's a

524
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: lot of great coffee shops here, as there are as

525
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: much as there are everywhere. But this, this particular one,

526
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: I call it that, and it's a small, little one,

527
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: and so I hope that it doesn't piss them off

528
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: that I just uh told everyone. But I get more

529
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: cappuccinos and lattes and achato's not the one that you

530
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: get at Starbucks, but the original sort of simple foam

531
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: and espresso when I go there, because everything they make,

532
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: even if I just get a shot of espresso, everything

533
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: they make there is delicious. But if I go to Starbucks,

534
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be the if I get a

535
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: four shot Americano, it's going to taste exactly the same

536
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: in Des Moines as it will taste in Tokyo or

537
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: Yorktown Heights, New York. It's not going to be any

538
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: because they.

539
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: Wait, what part of what part of the world do

540
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: you live? Do you what part of the world are

541
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: you living in?

542
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Now?

543
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Are you?

544
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: I live in Seattle, so I'm between. I sort of

545
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: live between Virginia and Seattle. But my children, because my

546
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: wife studied medicine here, my children were born in Seattle.

547
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: I bored. He just he just he just got up

548
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: and left. He always.

549
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 5: People talk about their children and where they're from. I

550
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: just have to have to take a break. I had

551
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: to take a break.

552
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: I know it. I know what you mean. It's where.

553
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: It's where I just did and I did it all

554
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: and I'm and I keep doing it. Where do you live?

555
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 6: Seattle?

556
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: Anyway? So we ended up being here, and we like

557
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: it in Seattle a lot. And we also so those.

558
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: Are opposite towns, by the way. That's that's some interesting

559
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: duality of worlds that you got going on in Charlottesville

560
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: and then Seattle.

561
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: That's right, It is true, but it's it's also funny

562
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: because there's assumptions we make about both which are true,

563
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: which are but which are also but are also very

564
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: not true at all. Right, right, very often they're not monoliths.

565
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 4: They're not monoliths.

566
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: No, And maybe Charlottesville is I guess it's a wonderful place,

567
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: but every place could be a little more aware of

568
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: its self than it is. I imagine.

569
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: I bet your kids are hell around well rounded for

570
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: those reasons though. That's what I was thinking too, Like

571
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: they get they know all the things.

572
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: I think that I think I have nice I think

573
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: I have kind children. That's the main children. Yeah, you absolutely,

574
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: and I've and and I also think that my children

575
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: are well round enough that they they act polite and

576
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: well put together when they when they when they see

577
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: you quest but they are very excited. I have one

578
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: great story made me really proud of my kids. So

579
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: my favorite musicians is Danny Barnes. He's a banjo player

580
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: out of Austin. He lives up in this man. Yeah,

581
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 2: all fuck it, I had enough. I had enough of that.

582
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: My pole barn fell into my peaches.

583
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: I'm looking at him up right now.

584
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: You know it's it's so it's he's so funky. All

585
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: fuck it.

586
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 7: Last time we were together one hundred years ago at

587
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 7: Sesame Street, you brought up Danny Barnes. I feel like

588
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 7: he's a common common love him.

589
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: But I love you because wait, he was on Sesame

590
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: Street Bill David.

591
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 7: Danny Barnes was not on sesame streets. That would be

592
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 7: amazing show Dave, Dave Matthews, this person he was on

593
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 7: sesame Street.

594
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: Okay, great, I am up.

595
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: I was. I was very happy to be on Sesame Street.

596
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: But anyway, my thing. Someone someone, some kid asked my

597
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: kids if they knew Bob Marley, and I think they

598
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: were they were asking them if they had ever heard

599
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: of Bob Marley. But my kids were spoiled, and I

600
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: remember my daughter said they were little, and my daughter said,

601
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: I don't know Bob Marley, but we know, we know

602
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: Danny Barnes.

603
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: All right, my next everyday question is.

604
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: What television show are you currently binging?

605
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: So I'm i am mad that I do like that

606
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: the last of Us thing okay, but and the last

607
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: two episodes were my favorite, and because they were just

608
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: so many, I'm just didn't finish it.

609
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: I didn't finish it, and I finished it ruthless.

610
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: I just ruthless. I'm excited, So I'm sad that I

611
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: got to the end. Anyway, they were ruthless. A lot

612
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: of people were like, I don't like the last two.

613
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: I was like, I love them, but also I wanted

614
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: to tell you, I think people should watch this funny.

615
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: I think it's Australian show. I don't know if they

616
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: haven't made it anymore. But it's called Mister in Between.

617
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 2: Is anybody here that sounds familiar? Way?

618
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: Way?

619
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: Wait?

620
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 4: What's what's what service? What is this one?

621
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: I think it's Mister in Between. I really liked this show.

622
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I just.

623
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: Meant I could be on it, you know, but sometimes

624
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 4: you just fall onto you fall into things.

625
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: I know that there's gonna be a show that I'm

626
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: watching that I have that I've forgotten.

627
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: Okay, and then.

628
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: There's uh, I just finished that res Dogs.

629
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: It's cool, Reservation Docs, Indigenous Kids.

630
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: Yes Dogs, Yes, it's a really good show because.

631
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: A lot of dope indigenous shows on like on streaming

632
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 4: right now, like they didn't include the community.

633
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: Is really cool, really, all of the non musical jobs

634
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: that you've had.

635
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 7: This's my favorite episode of Questlove Supreme ever. It's because

636
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 7: I just want to I want to know them as

637
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 7: a human being instead.

638
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: Of as I did. I was a bartender, which is

639
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: I think, uh, not unusual for musicians, but I but

640
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: I worked my way up to bartending. I started off

641
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: as the salad guy, and they used to call me

642
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: the nacho guy because I made more nachos than salads.

643
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: And then I waited tables.

644
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I hated.

645
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: That's the worst. That's the hardest job in the world.

646
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: I think it's the hardest job.

647
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: Do you have the ability to carry that train like

648
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: way above your head?

649
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: I was. I was good. I'm good at carrying trays.

650
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: But I'm also really good when i'm overwhelmed, because I'm

651
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: easily overwhelmed. I'm really good at pretending that someone's not

652
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 2: in my section until they leave.

653
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: Wait, so you got passive aggressively?

654
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, excuse me? Uh can can? Uh? We haven't been

655
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: served yet. I'm sorry, you're not in my section. I'm

656
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: just going to but I'll let your waiter know. I

657
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: didn't but I did do it, and I will and

658
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: I and I tell you that the one of the weird.

659
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: I was working on the patio and there's a lot

660
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: of rats in this particular underneath this mall, but I

661
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Speaker 2: there was they used.

662
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: To rats, but restaurants. Okay.

663
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: I walked onto the patio where I where I was waiting,

664
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: and I looked and there was this there was a

665
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: group of women and they were a little bit fancy,

666
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: were not too fancy because they were at our restaurant.

667
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: But they were a little bit fancy, and there was

668
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: a rat at their feet. So I didn't want to say,

669
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: excuse me, there's a rat at your feet, because that

670
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: would cause mayhem. I love the way anyway, So I

671
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: waited for the rat to walk away from under their table.

672
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: And it took so long. They would move their feet

673
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: like the rat would be standing on their shoe, and

674
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: then it would they'd move their feet and then the

675
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: rat would just walk over. I mean, it was so

676
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: bananas in Charlottesville. It was the most comfortable rat in

677
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: the world. It walked out onto an open area. And

678
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: then the ladies spotted it when it was in an

679
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: open area outside the restaurant, and and one of the

680
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: ladies said.

681
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 3: A rat.

682
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: And then and then they all were like and then

683
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: and then the dude came out of its long clothes.

684
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: Now this dude came out of a Walmart and he

685
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: had a and I was at this story. Now I

686
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I've been I must say, I must

687
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: stop the run.

688
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: Now you care? Now you care?

689
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: Now I can acknowledge that the rats that if it was,

690
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: I was just I was so happy it made it

691
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: away anyway, it wasn't in my section. And then and

692
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: this dude came out of the Walmart with a broom

693
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: handle and a box and then just right in front

694
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: of everyone, just beat this rat to death. People were like,

695
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: all right, oh no Ah, what a rat. And this

696
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: dude just walked out just as if nothing was just

697
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: was like. People were like and I was kind of

698
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: stunned too. And then he just smacked it into the

699
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: box and just walked away back dropped the box next

700
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: to the Walmart and just walked in not Walmart. What

701
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: am I talking about? Woolworths. I said, you didn't come

702
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: out of a giant mega store. He came out of

703
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: the old, the little old Woolworths. I I ruined the

704
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: story by so.

705
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: You didn't know.

706
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: Dave Matthews. You literally, yo, guys, this might have to

707
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: be my new format.

708
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: I love this. Which weeks? That's one job? What's the other? Four?

709
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: Oh ship? So I worked in a record store and

710
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: and it was in South Africa and it was when,

711
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't believe Anita Baker's like smash

712
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: album came out and she was.

713
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: Wait time out, out, time out till out tell hi

714
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: about Wait, why do we get triggered?

715
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: You was.

716
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 4: Sorry, not a gag.

717
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: It's not a game.

718
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: It's not a game.

719
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: Go ahead.

720
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Inside heard her name, it got stared like

721
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Trigger?

722
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: This was a long time ago. Anyways, I apologize if

723
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: I if I haven't been reading the paper. But anyway,

724
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: she was. That album was just that was NonStop and

725
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: that was what everyone was. It was and the thing was,

726
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: it was. It was in the it was in the

727
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: city in Jannisburg, and it's and it's It was an

728
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: interesting time because it's when like Hillbrow in Johannesburg and

729
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: Joville and Johannesburg and downtown Johannesburg where they were starting

730
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: to call them gray areas, because although apartheid was still

731
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: like holding on with its claws, it was it was

732
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: everyone everyone knew it was at this It was when

733
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: the clerk was about to he was gonna the President

734
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: of South Africa was about to what they you know

735
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: what what much of the country, uh, the white part

736
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: of the country considered the great betrayal because he was

737
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: hardline apartheid guy. And then suddenly he just did. But

738
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: I think he got the reports from people and and

739
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: and it was essentially you know, let go or it's

740
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: or you know there's going to be get out. So anyway,

741
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: it was right around that time, so there were these

742
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: gray areas where people like where it was essentially you know,

743
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: already integrated, and you know, the police was still horrifying,

744
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: and it was all that was still going on. But

745
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: it was like these certain areas like they're sort of

746
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: the hip to be college students and Orthodox Jews and

747
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: then anyone else that want to live there. It's just

748
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: And what one Polish guy once said to me when

749
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: I was in his cab in New York going to Brooklyn,

750
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: he says, you know why the Jews don't leave here.

751
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: The Jews don't leave here because the Jews don't take

752
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: ship from every Bobby. And I was so interesting this.

753
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, I did a weird not good.

754
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: No, that was I thought that was kind of good.

755
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I.

756
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 7: Feel like that Polish was nailed. That was I felt

757
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 7: like b minus, I was minus.

758
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: Is exactly right. But anyway, it was a fucking accent.

759
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: Oh but anyway, it wasn't me. I didn't say it

760
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: so then, but I just thought that was so I

761
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: just thought it was interesting because then I ended up

762
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: living years later, uh in an area or with a

763
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: friend in an area that was it was like had

764
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: been very much uh like sort of a Jewish area

765
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: in in Johannesburg that had now become this sort of

766
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: gray area, but it was still very Jewish, but it

767
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: was also college kids and it was also it was

768
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: a really interesting time. And that's when I worked at

769
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: this record store. I wish I could Hillbrow Records is

770
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 2: what it was called. And and then what else ship

771
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: That was a long it's a long story. And I

772
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: drew some pictures of I did some illustrations for for

773
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: magazines like uh brochures for like insurance companies for a

774
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: little while. That was that's just like a small like

775
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: a local like coming, you know, get your you're an illustrator,

776
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: like a really like like like come and get a

777
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: thermometer put in your butthole at this start, you write

778
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: a cartoon of it, or yeah, you draw a little picture. Now.

779
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: I wish it was that interesting. It was much more like,

780
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: you know.

781
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: Wait, can I ask does your publicist approve of this interview?

782
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: I feel like they're here, they.

783
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: They're right there. They just some random dude giving you

784
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: two thumbs up.

785
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

786
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: Can I ask a random acting question real quick? Because

787
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but your one of your favorite characters of

788
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 4: mine was from Blenda And I'm just so curious if

789
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 4: you're like an improv dude or yeah, I'm just that's

790
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: my first question about acting. But I'm just curious if

791
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 4: you're an improv due because it seems like you'd be

792
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: amazing at it.

793
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't done too much much of it, but

794
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 2: I would, I'm I'm but I'm willing to learn.

795
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 4: Really, So what's your acting? So as far as your training?

796
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 4: What do you what do you consider you?

797
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: Just when I was when I was bartending a bunch

798
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: of a bunch of English grads who worked in bars

799
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: in Charlottesville and other people that started there's two there

800
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: was one called off stage theater and one uh there,

801
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: and there was another one that was that wasn't in

802
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: random places that I've forgotten it now and they'll get

803
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: mad at me when they if any of them hear this.

804
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: But and then so we I used to do when

805
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: I was twenty in my early twenties, I used to

806
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: do little acting things there and you know, try to

807
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: figure out what the hell I was doing with myself.

808
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to do something right. I think the last

809
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: thing I did with off stage theater was the band

810
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: was already together. I think a couple of guys came

811
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: to something I did in in the bars, Leroy and Carter.

812
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: I think they came to one of them. And then now,

813
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: I you know, you know, if Sandler calls me, I'll

814
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: do his movie.

815
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: Say, y'all got a nice relationship. What's your most fun

816
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 4: Adam Sandler experience of all the movies that you've done

817
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: again so so.

818
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: One time, and he'll he might not verify this because

819
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: but but it's mildly x rayed. But he called me

820
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: up and he said, he said, hey, buddy, I got

821
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: this one thing. I got this thing for you. He says,

822
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: you go, you gotta read this. And it was actually

823
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: for the part that I think Woody Harrelson ended up playing,

824
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: so he obviously Adam got a better option. But it

825
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: was when wood he played the trans woman or something

826
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: in Management. Yeah, but wood he was would he was

827
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: great anyway, So he was I think he was calling

828
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: me about that. I'm not one hundred percent sure but

829
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 2: but he said, I got I got this pop with you.

830
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: And I said, I said, uh, I'll do anything for

831
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: you said, I said, you could dress. I said, you

832
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: could do anything. You're amazing. You could put a dress on.

833
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: And I probably, you know, want to make love to you.

834
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: And he goes, whoa, and he goes and he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy,

835
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: you could, you could, you could never you can never

836
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: ever make love to me. Like I'm sorry. He goes,

837
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: you could even maybe you could titty fuck my ass,

838
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: but you can never go inside. And I was like,

839
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: that's my that's my greatest memmory memory of Adam. That is.

840
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 4: Tell us he was a jack of jail or whatever.

841
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, never go inside me.

842
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: Also, that question is point on.

843
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 4: It is point on.

844
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 1: That is spot on, sand Man.

845
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry to be heady about this, but so

846
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: everything that happened between you and Nicole Hittman was scripted.

847
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for the most I mean for the

848
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: most of the stumbling was it was all pretty pretty scripted.

849
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: She's pretty shot, and Keith was Keith was around quite

850
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: a bit too, or.

851
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Okay, tar players making it weird.

852
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: Awkward it's the funnyest she's ever been that.

853
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: She's but she you know, what what's interesting is is

854
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: how much she adores Adam Sammler, because she said when

855
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: she was first coming up, she said she was on

856
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live and she was terrified, and Adam was

857
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: just the nicest man. And that's kind of it's kind

858
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: of a thing that's interesting about He's like, like, you know,

859
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: he says he works as hard as anybody, but that

860
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 2: guy is absolutely one of the nicest people in the world.

861
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: He is he is, He absolutely is.

862
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 7: David, I've been asked, I've been wanted to ask you

863
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 7: this my entire life. We talked about We've talked about

864
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 7: this before us. She talked to the Beatles, the simplicity

865
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 7: of melody, the simplicity of music writing, and yet when

866
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 7: I listen to your songs, there's the time signatures are complex,

867
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 7: the thoughts are complex, the harmonics are complex. It feels

868
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 7: like like one thought and then a different practice.

869
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I have, I have learned nothing.

870
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 7: But like but like we've worked together for a long

871
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 7: time and like it's like it's a I think in

872
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 7: your head and in my head, and I guess in

873
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 7: song Wanders says, you want, you want to present the

874
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 7: most simple thing, the most beautiful, simple, perfect thing. But

875
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 7: yet for whatever reason, you get caught up in the

876
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 7: musicality of it, all, right, and then and then you

877
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 7: try to fall still right and then but but for

878
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 7: whatever reason, you're very successful at finding that in the end,

879
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 7: finding the most beautiful thing regardless, right, And so that

880
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 7: has always been my like number one Dave Matthews thing

881
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 7: your entire career as a fan, as a person who

882
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 7: knows you that just like I don't know how you

883
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 7: do that. I really don't, and it's like, it's really fantastic.

884
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 7: That's I don't know how better to say?

885
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: That works?

886
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's that's that's very kind. I do I

887
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: have to say that I do. I want to say,

888
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: stop there and don't fuck it up, don't change it

889
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: to five, don't put it in for no reason and

890
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 2: then switch it to four. What do you do? Why

891
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: do I have to be so confusing? But then I

892
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: but then sometimes I can't stop myself, and then I

893
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: just end up going in circles until it's too complicated,

894
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: so I either throw it away or something. But I

895
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: also have to say something that some There have been

896
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: specific times in my life when I've said, when I've

897
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 2: come up with something that's that's weird, a weird time,

898
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: a signature, it's unusual, but I feel like it, and

899
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: it's I think a lot of it is sort of

900
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: listening to some sort of Central African West African grooves

901
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: and how it sounds like it's here but then it's

902
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 2: actually over here, and and and and and I don't

903
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: know if I understand it, but I but I still

904
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: get inspired by it. And and then I'll come up

905
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: with something and and and I think to myself, I

906
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 2: think this will sound really good if Carter plays it,

907
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, because Carter will come in and make something

908
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: it's really unusual sound like it makes sense, and I

909
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 2: think it's a remarkable gift. So sometimes I even go

910
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: on tangents just to play for Carter. Who oood If

911
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: anyone that's listening doesn't know is the drummer that I've

912
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 2: been lucky enough to work with for to.

913
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: Trust me, they we all know quarter View.

914
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: I know you guys know, but a.

915
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 7: Mirror like, how do you feel about a drummer like Carter,

916
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 7: because essentially your philosophies are completely and utterly polite opposite.

917
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 7: So you want to know something because also like and

918
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 7: I respect you both in so different ways, but it's

919
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 7: a completely different thing, and that's fascinating to me.

920
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: Here's the funny thing. So the project I'm working on

921
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: right now right.

922
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: Is it was me looking at these guys like a.

923
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: Period between ninety four to.

924
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: Ninety six, and it just hit me when I saw

925
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: them like this is like when the second album Verse

926
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: came out and I saw them. So basically, what Bill

927
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 3: is explaining is that I have a very bare bones,

928
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: straight pocket. And it wasn't until I saw you Cold Blood.

929
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: But it wasn't until I saw the earliest performance of

930
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: an unmentioned secret project I'm working on that it finally

931
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: hit me. I was like, yo, now I saw this

932
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: with at the Drive In, I saw this with and

933
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: then when I saw this also when they morphed into

934
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: Mars Volta, and now I'm seeing it with Dave Matthews,

935
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: I now know where the true creative home, where what

936
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: I call gospel chop jumping belongs. Carter is the perfect

937
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: musical specimen of a drummer for this particular ensemble situation

938
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 3: where if fit's like a hand and glove. The problem

939
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: I have is, all right, if you were to take Carter.

940
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 4: He is gospel chops. You're saying it's.

941
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 7: Transcendent gospel shops, like it's He's on a whole other level, right.

942
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: He's the honest. But that's the thing.

943
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 3: And but the only reason why that level of drumming

944
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: would be jarring for me is if say a tribe

945
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: called Quest asked for the same.

946
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: Sort of drummer, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, then

947
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: it would be different.

948
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: But I now, like when I when I saw it,

949
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: then I went on an instant rabbit hole and only

950
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 3: watched pre ninety nine Dave Matthews to see them at

951
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 3: their very beginners.

952
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh shit, you guys are actually.

953
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: The blueprint for where black music is today as far

954
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: as rhythmically and structurally.

955
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: And I don't think you guys know that.

956
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: And I don't think that's for sure that we know that.

957
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't think we know that. And it's just like,

958
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: only in Mars Volta and in the Dave Matthews band

959
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: is that level of insane drumming like music to my

960
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: ears where it's just perfect makes all the sense. Don't

961
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I mean right.

962
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: Again, I'll just sit here and I'll just lie in that.

963
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: That sounds good to me.

964
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: Wait did I not make that clear?

965
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: It was just it was kind of meant, yes, I

966
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: have a way to go.

967
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 3: Around the scenic route to get to the point. Yes,

968
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: But okay, So what is your preferred method of songwriting?

969
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: So do you do it alone or do you guys

970
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: get together or.

971
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: There's been times when, like the the I think sometimes

972
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: the best of what we do is when we're all

973
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: together in the room and and you know, I'll have

974
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: I'll find an idea and and and we'll like I

975
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: one of my favorite songs that I think we've ever

976
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: ever put out called it's called Virginia in the Rain,

977
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: and actually it only came out a couple of albums ago.

978
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 2: It's just this swimming kind of feel and it's crazy,

979
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: and it's so comfortable, and everyone sounds exactly like everyone

980
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: sounds and it but it's kind of a magical thing.

981
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: And the way that the timing kind of has this

982
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: upside down thing. And when we were first doing it,

983
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: I think we all kind of almost had different ones.

984
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's like this, But the writing on that

985
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: was all of us, you know, in the same space,

986
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: and then there's times when I'll come in with a

987
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: sort of almost finished song and then also I have

988
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: a I don't it's not maybe traditional, but I have

989
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 2: a I think it's probably more common now, but there's

990
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: a song like on the new record to walk around

991
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: the Moon. And obviously it was harder for all of

992
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: us to get into a room together in the pandemic

993
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: because we're all everyone's losing their minds and so that

994
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: was sort of a restrictive situation. But you know, in

995
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: traditional terms, I'd finished the song walk around the Moon,

996
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: and then Carter came in. He was the first person

997
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: to come in because the producer Rob said we should

998
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: get Carter to play on this. We hadn't planned to

999
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: making a record, and but when Carter first he listened

1000
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: to that and he did his funny sort of writing

1001
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: down the arrangement, and then he went out and what

1002
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: he played over it was so bananas and so beautiful,

1003
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: so straightforward, but so bananas. It's like it like wrote

1004
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: it like here was the song was written here. And

1005
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: then what he did like change the song, but it didn't,

1006
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: it just made it way more what it was and

1007
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: I think in a traditional sense someone would say, you know,

1008
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: I'd say like, oh, I wrote that song, and you know,

1009
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: maybe there have been times when I had, but I

1010
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: had to say Carter wrote the song with me because

1011
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: just you know, just the way he came in, And

1012
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: so there's that that time. So some songs come out

1013
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: of jams. Ninety nine percent of the time, I write

1014
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: the lyrics afterwards, which is why maybe it's so often

1015
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: they're gobbledygop trying of I can figure out a way

1016
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: I how to screw a lyric onto something that's jumping

1017
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: all over the place. So whether I write a musical

1018
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 2: thing or form or song by myself, or the band

1019
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: gets together and we jam something, or or it's a

1020
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 2: mixture of each thing, the writing of the lyrics sort

1021
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: of comes at the end. So that is so the process,

1022
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: that part of it doesn't change. I love when we're

1023
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: all free and I you know, there's times when I'll

1024
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, say to Carter, play something like play this,

1025
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: you know, or but there's also times where where I

1026
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 2: don't say anything, you know, and and I would expect

1027
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: to say from him too, you know. I do feel

1028
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: like a very fortunate that we've managed to like keep

1029
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: this process. I've managed to keep this process a little

1030
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: bit of an exchange rather than getting into a place

1031
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: where you know, I'm telling everyone what to do, because

1032
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: I think so much more power in at least in

1033
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: this band. We've all been together so much that you know,

1034
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: there's more noise to be had from other people. That

1035
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: make things surprising.

1036
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 3: For you, is is there? What what is your idea

1037
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 3: of musical happiness?

1038
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: Like do you prefer.

1039
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 3: Small, small, intimate jamming situations with your band or actually,

1040
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: when's the last time you guys played in you know,

1041
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: like Toads Up, Yeah, like Toad's up in the Yale Like.

1042
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: But we you know, often when we play outside of

1043
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: the country, outside of the US, you know, we play

1044
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: in smaller places. It depends, you know, we do. There's

1045
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: you know, parts of Europe where we do better. But

1046
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: we're more in a weird way, we're more of a

1047
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: like a cult band in the rest of the world

1048
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 2: than we are definitely than we are in the States.

1049
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: I mean some you know, so.

1050
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: Germany where you playing, Like how many people are you

1051
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: playing to in Fank for Germany?

1052
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: Like two thousand or five? You know, maybe maybe I

1053
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 2: don't know, five to to five somewhere we bounce around

1054
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: Like Portugal, they they like us there, so we do

1055
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: a little more, right, we do a little more. We

1056
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: get a little more action in Portugal and Spain we

1057
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: do alright. The UK is a little bigger, but then

1058
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: you know, once we get but then it's a different

1059
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: it's very the vibe is it's so much fun to

1060
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: play to, you know, a different audience, an audience that

1061
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: we don't get to play in front of very much,

1062
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: you know, because we had this funny thing in the

1063
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: States that that you know, we kind of came up.

1064
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: You know, even though we have this we we've been

1065
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: lucky at times more than others to sell out big places.

1066
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: We still kind of came up this way from our

1067
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: shows and sort of word of mouth, and so that

1068
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: we haven't had that opportunity as much in other places.

1069
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: And so our audience is sort of similar, but a

1070
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 2: little more. We're excited about listening to us in other

1071
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: parts of the world than it States.

1072
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: How can you plan a tour in which every territory

1073
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: varies in size and I know that at your peak,

1074
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: your maximum, you guys are a fully operational like you know,

1075
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen.

1076
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: Eighteen wheeler truck.

1077
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: Maybe I would assume at seven to ten tour bus

1078
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: or private plane operation. Like but then you're saying that,

1079
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 3: like if you go to Glasgow, Scotland or something, then

1080
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: you might have to small scale it. So how do

1081
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: you route and plan that out where some places you're

1082
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: you can play ninety thousand.

1083
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: I guess we do them separate. So you know, we're

1084
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: gonna go to Europe in the spring, and so then

1085
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: we'll think of it, like what can we do and

1086
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: you know, new designs, our stages and uh and uh

1087
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: does our lights and has for a long time, but

1088
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: you know, since like the first year that we were together.

1089
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: But so like then he'll design a stage for for

1090
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: if we're in Europe and we'll be much and you know,

1091
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: and and then our we'll take our core crew. We

1092
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: won't need the biggest So it's just like a you know,

1093
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: logistical change and and a lot of it's it's not

1094
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: And thank god it has nothing to do with me,

1095
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: because that would be a shit show. I love playing

1096
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: in the smaller, different venues. We were down in Mexico,

1097
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: you know, Mexico City, a few places at the beginning

1098
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: of the tour, and it's so much fun to play

1099
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: in places we don't go all the time. And uh,

1100
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's one thing to play in Cantcon where

1101
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: it'll probably all be Americans, but if you go to

1102
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: Mexico City or Monterey or Guadalajara or whatever, then it's

1103
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: the audience is all Mexican people and and it and

1104
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: it's just it's so much fun to play for a

1105
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: really different audience. And when we were down there, we

1106
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: had like a week or so, maybe a little more

1107
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: than that somewhere around there when we were just all

1108
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: rehearsing together, and that was that was fun. Actually, I

1109
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: think a lot hopefully some new music will come out

1110
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: of that. I think it's very fortunate, especially now. I

1111
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: mean there's ups and downs, right but the way the

1112
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: band is right now, I feel like it's as much

1113
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: fun playing with these guys as I've ever had.

1114
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 7: So, you know, I was gonna ask about that, like

1115
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 7: the band has morphed so much in the past, I

1116
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 7: don't know ten years, Like how do you where do

1117
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 7: you find the happiness and where do you find the

1118
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 7: right thing?

1119
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and adjusting I'm gonna add that to your question, Bill,

1120
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: like and adjusting to life after LeRoy's transition.

1121
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like how do you Roy was like Roy and Carter.

1122
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: Roy is like the first person that I It's like,

1123
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: you know, you don't have better friends than him. He's

1124
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: a difficult friend, but you don't, you know, And and

1125
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: musically he's just there's no one like him. He is

1126
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: so unique. And Jeff Coffin put it beautifully. One one

1127
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: who plays sax with us now. But but Jeff said,

1128
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 2: what Roy had and didn't realize much of the time

1129
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: was he had his own voice. And that's like what

1130
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: every horn player dreams about. And and it's true, like

1131
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: Roy just had this like I get to hear a recording,

1132
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: like just to hear one note and it just and

1133
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: it just like Roy, just the memory of him. But

1134
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: I think, you know, so we go, we really miss him,

1135
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: but you know, and you go, you go up and down.

1136
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: But right now, the way the band is, you know,

1137
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: there's lots of gratitude and you know, because you know,

1138
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: we still we're still paying for our own toothpaste and

1139
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: so so that's good and we're living, uh, living well,

1140
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: and it seems like the audiences are still enjoying it.

1141
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: So you know, this is this. It feels like right now,

1142
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: the last five years or so, it's been a really good,

1143
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: a really good period for us. I really feel grateful

1144
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: about it. I also love playing, you know, by myself.

1145
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: I also love playing with just me and Tim. I

1146
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: don't know, any opportunity to the change is good too,

1147
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: you know.

1148
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: To scale down.

1149
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm thinking of life with Steve and Jonas back

1150
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 3: when we were in the house together.

1151
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 4: Oh God, memories day.

1152
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, peanut butter in the fridge or outside the fridge,

1153
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: outside the.

1154
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 7: Fridge, outside the fridge, agreed after it's open, Yeah, yess always.

1155
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 4: Y'all probably do the same thing with ketchup and musta.

1156
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 4: Y'all lead that outside defrigerator, but you.

1157
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: Lead peanut butter inside the fridge if you opened it.

1158
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, anything that's open should go in the fridge.

1159
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 4: That's what y'all. Don't read the label.

1160
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: I don't read if you're gonna lead on the shelf

1161
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 2: for a couple of months, maybe, yeah, But but I

1162
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: you know, we go through our peanut butter. It's just

1163
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: it's a and and we get the you know, we

1164
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: get the crunchy, all natural. But I think it's the

1165
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: same with the other ones it turns into it's it's impossible.

1166
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: It's like spread cerator the fridge, so you have to

1167
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: take it out and leave it there.

1168
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 5: Anyway, if we're really going to ask questions, this random

1169
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: I got. I got a few questions in my own.

1170
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: So dogic his head. Here we go.

1171
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 5: My first random question is there's a famous piano player

1172
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 5: slash a ranger that did a lot of work on

1173
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 5: my favorite jazz label called CTI. His name's David Matthews.

1174
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 5: He's been heavily sampled as well, so of course I

1175
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 5: might know who he is. And I was just wondering if,

1176
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 5: because of the name, did you ever meet him or

1177
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 5: crossover with him, or have publishing issues with him in

1178
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 5: any way because or have you ever heard of David Matthew?

1179
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: And we've had some but but it's been more amusing

1180
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: than anything I think there was. I think once he

1181
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: we ran into each other in and I do know him,

1182
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: but I think he may have he had to call

1183
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: the I R S And say this is definitely not mine, not.

1184
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: Mine. Oh wow, his estimates it's got blown up.

1185
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: I think may have been like no, no, no, no,

1186
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: that's the other guy that sounds sounds a little like

1187
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: Kermit the Frog. He doesn't do any arrangements. Okay, we

1188
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: had an amusing exchange in an airport. Okay, did it

1189
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: a bunt of arranging too?

1190
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: Right?

1191
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1192
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's most known for his his arrangement ranging.

1193
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 5: So I have a second random question. Do you remember

1194
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 5: being at Electric Ladies studios in the late nineties must

1195
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 5: have been ninety seven, ninety eight, some ninety nine maybe,

1196
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 5: and smoking a joint with di'angelo?

1197
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 6: Yes, with two other random guys. I was one of

1198
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 6: the other random.

1199
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 2: To forget and I didn't know about this, No, but

1200
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: listen it before you down. So then so now i'm

1201
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: you know, I'm excited first of all to be uh

1202
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: visiting d Angelo in the studio, but now I'm fucking

1203
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: so fucking high. And then that's which is fine, that's fine.

1204
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: And he turns on he starts playing the most insane

1205
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: you'll agree with me, right, I mean, the music was

1206
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: so beautiful, was so insane. I mean, I hadn't heard

1207
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: any of it, so maybe you've been, you know, going

1208
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: listening to it again. But it was early, but it

1209
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: wasn't but it was not what I heard.

1210
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it took us four years to make

1211
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: that record.

1212
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm telling you it was so banana the music

1213
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: he played. I left, like you know, you know when

1214
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 2: you experienced something when it's so beautiful that you know

1215
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 2: you're partly inspired, and then you're also just like what

1216
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: am I? What am I doing? Wow? What am I doing?

1217
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 2: I should? I need to just go back yourself the

1218
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: rock where I where I you came from and the

1219
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: fuck up?

1220
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, make sure to raise your game is what it

1221
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 5: does when you hear music.

1222
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: Because it's like you sort of see possibilities. It was, Yeah,

1223
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: that was I absolutely remember. It was so exciting.

1224
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 6: The root. Yeah, I think it was the.

1225
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 1: Song of the route.

1226
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

1227
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 5: The reason weren't you weren't there? This was like after

1228
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 5: this was like vocals, vocal sessions that just went on

1229
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 5: for a year.

1230
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: So you want to know that.

1231
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 3: But tell me, how does Dave Matthews wind up at

1232
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: electric shows up?

1233
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's my no, that's my actual question is

1234
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 5: what album were you working on?

1235
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 6: Because you were there for a session.

1236
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: Well, I leave, I wonder because I've done a few

1237
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: different things.

1238
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 6: I think you were in your own I think you

1239
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 6: were down in the b room.

1240
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: Could we have been doing the sad Tana?

1241
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 6: Uh? Oh yeah, yeah, he might.

1242
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: Which I've which I I have to tell you we

1243
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: planned that for a long time. I have to say.

1244
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: My son, uh put on the song that I sang

1245
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: on that Santana record, and then I hadn't heard it

1246
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: a long time, and I have to say, I'm not

1247
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 2: sure what was wrong with me. I was, I was

1248
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: a little soft on that song. Kind of irritates me

1249
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: when I hear it. I'm a little soft, I'm a

1250
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: little like, I don't know, I'm a little airy a

1251
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, it's even it's like Kermit the Frog,

1252
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 2: like we really tired.

1253
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: None of us' is like, oh we do ten years

1254
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Ever on Santana Robbers.

1255
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: My son and I was, he's been getting into some

1256
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: Santana and he listened to that and he goes, he goes,

1257
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: it's it's I said, oh, I sound terrible, and he

1258
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: goes and my son affirm, he confronted by going, it's

1259
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: not your best, dad, he's the best.

1260
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 4: He's the best.

1261
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: August. August is like, takes you right to their right

1262
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: right to your heart.

1263
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, he said, it's not your best.

1264
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 3: Speaking of Santana. Okay, So where did you get the idea?

1265
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 3: So the thing is is that we're doing our first

1266
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: stadium show, and you know, the stadium holds like seventy

1267
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: thousand people, but I think an accumulation of it because

1268
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 3: we're the opening act. It's the Roots Santana and then

1269
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 3: Dave Matthew's band, and you know there there might be

1270
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 3: there might be five thousand people.

1271
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: Now, I just came from an arena show last week.

1272
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 3: I went, I went to Witness or what I call

1273
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,919
Speaker 3: Swiftville or.

1274
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: And no, no, no, it was something to behold, especially

1275
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: as an outsider.

1276
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

1277
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: It was something to be whole. But the thing is

1278
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: is that.

1279
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people who I know, a lot of

1280
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 2: kids who went down to that you know, yeah, just

1281
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: friends of friends and said we're going to Pittsburgh.

1282
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: So the town was so packed. I had to get

1283
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 3: a hotel in Cleveland, Ohio. Like any anywhere she goes,

1284
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 3: she's going to bring at least at least two billion.

1285
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: Dollars worth of business.

1286
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 3: So I want to science study just on that alone.

1287
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: But my whole point was that, so you know, we're about.

1288
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: To go out on stage and then you come and

1289
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 3: you're like, I'm going to introduce you guys, and I'm like,

1290
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 3: wait a minute, this doesn't happen. The opening the headliner

1291
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 3: of the place isn't supposed to come out, you know,

1292
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 3: the bride's not supposed to see the groom on the

1293
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 3: wedding day. And you came out and it was as

1294
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 3: if the audience knows that you do that, because instantly,

1295
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,879
Speaker 3: like within ten seconds, that shit went to like fourteen

1296
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 3: thousand people.

1297
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: Sure, and you not only.

1298
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: Introduced us, but then you stood on stage and watched

1299
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 3: us because you knew that your fan base would come

1300
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 3: from their tailgate parties outside to watch you watch us.

1301
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 3: So where where did you get that idea from? Because

1302
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 3: that's that's you didn't have to do that. But where

1303
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: did you get that idea from?

1304
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's probably pretty simple. So I I

1305
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: had a few, you know, experiences when we were coming up.

1306
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: You know, we had a few experiences where where you know,

1307
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: the where the audience was coming for the main right

1308
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 2: and and and so, and that was always it was.

1309
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: It was quite often it was humbling, and sometimes it

1310
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: was sometimes things turned out well. I mean, we had

1311
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: a great time we opened up for the Dead one

1312
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: time in Vegas, and and and everyone had warned us

1313
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: that the Dead audience is not into the opening act.

1314
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, man.

1315
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: And then the funniest thing is they loved us, which

1316
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 2: maybe says something about us. They were all they were

1317
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: all dancing and spinning around the having a blast. But

1318
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: but it wasn't always like that. And I but I

1319
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: remember one specific time. It was I think Carter and

1320
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: I went to I think we were actually playing between

1321
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: this uh blues Traveler had two sets. They were playing

1322
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: two sets, and we were playing between them. Oh wow,

1323
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: and there's these two dudes right in front of me

1324
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 2: in the audience, and so my monitors there, and then

1325
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: there's these two dudes and they were just at the

1326
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: top of their lungs. They were screaming like essentially like

1327
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 2: fuck you, you fucking suckuck. And it was like they

1328
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: would have taken a break anyway, they were so furious,

1329
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 2: and they didn't start. They were realless. And then I

1330
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: kept like it's I could I could barely. I mean,

1331
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: that's all I can hear. And then I kept turning

1332
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 2: around to Carter because he's you know, he's a he's

1333
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 2: a great drummer, but he's also quite often my therapist.

1334
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: And I'm like, these dudes are these guys are really

1335
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 2: fucking wearing me out? And Carter's like, just play the

1336
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: fucking song because they were wearing it d We had

1337
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: a few, but I always remember that, and I always

1338
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: remembered like, like I wanted to say, they invited us

1339
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: to come and play in between their fucking set, right

1340
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: and right right, So I guess that that was the

1341
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: The motivation was just that, like I was really excited

1342
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: that you guys were opening the start of the show, like,

1343
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 2: so I was, I want to make sure that the

1344
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: that they'll you know, like it's the whole show, right,

1345
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: So that's how I felt about it. It was the same.

1346
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 2: It was selfish, all right.

1347
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: So second second check it.

1348
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 3: You just reminded me one of the most hilarious moments

1349
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 3: open for you. Okay, So we did Philadelphia with you first.

1350
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 3: Then we did aforementioned giant in New York where you

1351
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 3: know I had to fire.

1352
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then and then.

1353
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so we get to Boston, right.

1354
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: And now we're kind of feeling ourselves like, Okay, this

1355
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 3: is not intimidating.

1356
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: We got this.

1357
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 3: You know, because even we were you know, we just

1358
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 3: started going to the next level. So this is all

1359
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 3: very new to us. So this is this is some

1360
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 3: Daddy Warbucks meets Annie sort of like experience for us

1361
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 3: where it's like, all right. So then we get to

1362
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: the first song, right, we get to the first song,

1363
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 3: and already this is the first day. This is the

1364
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 3: first day that we have the new implemented communication mics

1365
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 3: that we saw. You guys have him right, So I'm

1366
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 3: realizing that we can play do background.

1367
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: Vocals and crack jokes and you know, so we're in

1368
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: our zone. And then the whole audience was like saying like.

1369
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 3: And you know, by the time we got the song three,

1370
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, we are killing ship.

1371
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: Yo.

1372
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, dude, fucking Dave Matthews Mike kick

1373
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 3: us off the tour for kicking his ass so much.

1374
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: We we are fucking killing in the right I said, Yo,

1375
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: we're fucking killing shit, y'all. Let's keep it up.

1376
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 3: And the monitor guy was like, actually, guys, they're saying

1377
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: Yankee suck, Yankee suck. And I was like, wait, what,

1378
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 3: what what are you talking about. He's like, uh, he

1379
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 3: has a Yankees cap on and we.

1380
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 6: From Philly anyway.

1381
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 3: But that's the thing too, Trek is not he's not

1382
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 3: a sports guy. He was just matching his outfit and no,

1383
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 3: and like but.

1384
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: This was also in two thousand and.

1385
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 6: Four, where oh yeah, two thousand and four, We're.

1386
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: Boston asked right, so, oh my god.

1387
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: We thought that's a pretty good that's a pretty good

1388
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: story that.

1389
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: We thought he was killing it.

1390
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: And then and then and then suddenly the audience was like, yes.

1391
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 4: Now throw it, now throw it.

1392
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: No he did then literally, and then Trek was like, Yo,

1393
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, y'all. I was just color coordinating my outfit,

1394
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 3: like I didn't mean any fence, and he threw it

1395
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 3: and they just yo.

1396
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 4: Quick music questions that we on this because Amir always

1397
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 4: talks about Dave Atthew's band and the Dead and BC

1398
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 4: Boys kind of being his blueprint as far as the

1399
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 4: structure of what they did and shows and stuff. Dave,

1400
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 4: when you were creating your band, was there other bands

1401
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 4: that you looked at in that way, like from a

1402
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 4: business structure or from just touring anything new you were like,

1403
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,520
Speaker 4: this is what we're aiming tours.

1404
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: I was. I have to say that I was going

1405
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: pretty blindly and it was really you know, I was

1406
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: really excited about playing in a band, you know, and

1407
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 2: I was really excited about Leroy and Carter and Stefan.

1408
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 2: I was just just like A, there was there was

1409
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 2: something that was happening that was was was exciting, you know,

1410
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 2: like playing this one gig where it was like I

1411
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 2: think it was Earth Day and it was one of

1412
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 2: our earliest gigs, and we were supposed to go on

1413
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 2: like second or first, and then the band that was

1414
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: supposed to go on after a said hey, could you go?

1415
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: We got another gig and so could you go uh later,

1416
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: and we'll We're like okay, And that happened over and

1417
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 2: over again until we were I think we were the

1418
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 2: last band to go on. And it was an evening

1419
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 2: show and it was on a mall and and I

1420
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: remember when we got up to play, nobody knew who

1421
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: we were. We didn't even know who we were. And

1422
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: then you know, there's probably of the maybe there was

1423
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: a thousand people there at one point, but when we

1424
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 2: went up there there was one hundred people or something.

1425
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: And but boy went Carter. When we started, they all

1426
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 2: got up and they all started dancing, and so it

1427
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 2: was like this funny moment of like we're just something,

1428
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:47,480
Speaker 2: we got something going on, and that sort of round Sharansville.

1429
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: And then you know, we started, you know, got a

1430
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: couple of odd gigs here and there, and they didn't

1431
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: always work out, but there was something that pulled us.

1432
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, it was meeting the right

1433
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 2: people who had had ideas about how we could get

1434
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 2: up in front of more people, and you know, starting

1435
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: to play in universities and and the words started started

1436
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: going around. I think the fact that we didn't have

1437
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: a lot of music and we improvised and and we

1438
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 2: had to make shuit up and and so the shows

1439
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 2: were varied and different. Like I think that I remember

1440
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 2: there was a lot of colleges when we played that

1441
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 2: where people do you know, any replacements, And we'd be like, no, no,

1442
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: you guys suck.

1443
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: You know, So you're.

1444
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 3: Telling me that your your college presence was based on

1445
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 3: filling in for other acts, because that's how.

1446
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 2: We came up. It wasn't it was eventually, it wasn't that.

1447
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: I mean it was like but I mean we went

1448
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 2: from like sometimes being accepted because somebody in a college

1449
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: liked us, to like sort of like colleges were we'd

1450
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 2: go to places we'd never played before and everyone to

1451
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: be singing our and we didn't have any music out

1452
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 2: and everyone to be singing along. It got really it.

1453
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 2: We got this little cult thing in the in the

1454
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: in the universities that was kind of crazy, you know.

1455
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: I remember, uh we went up to we we had

1456
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: this nightmare where we drove over these snowy mountains. We

1457
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: were supposed to go around the mountains because it was

1458
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: the middle of winter in Maine and it but we

1459
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 2: didn't nobody they sent us the wrong instructions and we

1460
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 2: went over the top and it was a nightmare. We

1461
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 2: we would slid down a mountain in a van with

1462
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 2: a trailer, and we got there. We were pretty we

1463
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 2: were pretty hot and were and we were two hours late.

1464
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 2: They were like you're late, and you know, we're like,

1465
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: fuck you. But then when we got on stage and

1466
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 2: we started playing, the crowd was really excited and they

1467
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: were a priority you know, wasted it. But they all

1468
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 2: started singing all the music so loud, all the songs

1469
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 2: to us, and so it was kind of like, just

1470
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: what the hell's happening. We haven't even been hee, We

1471
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: never this Mountain.

1472
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: What year was the sea change for you? Like, what

1473
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 3: year was the year in which and how a'timidating was

1474
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 3: it to? Like wait a minute, what do you mean

1475
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 3: we could play stadiums now like I.

1476
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: Mean, I remember getting to the one of the guys

1477
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 2: who worked with us, one of our A and R guys,

1478
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: when we played before we had put out an album

1479
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: or anything, but we were going to put out an

1480
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 2: album and we were playing like Irving Plaza, I think,

1481
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 2: and it was packed, and the head of our record

1482
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: company said, how much money did we have to pay

1483
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 2: to get all these people here? And you know, so much.

1484
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 2: It was so disconnected sort of the record industry where

1485
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: we were was just that they had nothing. He couldn't

1486
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: even need an even like he had barely heard of us,

1487
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: and so, you know, it was it was a funny.

1488
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 2: We were almost like chasing in a funny way. We

1489
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 2: were working hard, but we were like chasing our chasing

1490
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 2: the audience in a funny way. We weren't right, but

1491
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 2: they were chasing us. I don't know what the right

1492
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: analogy would be.

1493
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like it's a small amount of groups

1494
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,959
Speaker 4: in this world that have existed that have a following

1495
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 4: in common like you, Like I was just talking to

1496
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 4: I have a high school girlfriend. As long as y'all

1497
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 4: have been out, her and another girlfriend have been following

1498
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 4: you guys, and they've done like up the coast. They

1499
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 4: started at the top and they've gone down. These are

1500
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 4: black girls, which is also kind of really dope too

1501
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 4: because they say they see each other at Dave Matthew show.

1502
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 4: This's like, that's a whole nother contingency of like black

1503
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 4: people who were like really literally physically follow you. Yeah,

1504
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 4: it's really really Four.

1505
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: Of my staff members are true Dave heads and.

1506
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 4: Shouts the kandas Bobo and sing of parents. They wanted

1507
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 4: me to say their names in this episode.

1508
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 7: I question, in the thirty years of touring and whatever,

1509
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 7: what's the best thing you've seen from the stage that

1510
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 7: you say on the microphone back to Carter, the best

1511
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 7: laugh from the band? What's the best thing?

1512
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: All I can think about is uh is is Teddies?

1513
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 2: I knew it was nasty, you know, and it was

1514
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 2: you know. There's definitely definitely jazz Fest seems like jazz Fest.

1515
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: There's yes, you think I will say something that's funny.

1516
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 2: That if you just if you just look a little

1517
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: further like because usually it's on someone's shoulders. Yes, so

1518
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: I think it's funny when the person that's carrying the

1519
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 2: person that has the titties doesn't know.

1520
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: That that are out.

1521
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: And may not know, but when they sometimes when they

1522
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: find out, there's a sort of like suddenly there's people

1523
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 2: and then everyone's excited that. But so that there's there's

1524
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: a there's a different there's different nuance, there's it's an

1525
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 2: it's it can be a nuanced situation where there's different

1526
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 2: emotional there's different input, there's different excitement and different perspectives.

1527
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 4: Not just based on alcohol content too anything.

1528
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: Not even any boobs nowadays, as you know, they're.

1529
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: Act different boobs.

1530
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 2: I have.

1531
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 5: I have a non titty question, if that's all right.

1532
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 5: So with regards to what we're discussing with touring, and

1533
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 5: you mentioned the Grateful Dead and you mentioned you played

1534
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 5: you opened up for them once, so at the time,

1535
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 5: and I'm not sure if we're around the same age

1536
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 5: or whatever, but I was in ninety three. Let's say

1537
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 5: you mentioned I was twenty three, and we had in college,

1538
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 5: we had seen a lot of Grateful Dead shows prior

1539
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 5: to Jerry passing away and either they were either winding

1540
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 5: down or he had already passed and you were on

1541
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 5: an upward trajectory or just come out in a way.

1542
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 5: And at least in my little group, it was like,

1543
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 5: well what now. And then it was kind of like, well,

1544
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 5: Dave Matthews band, now you were there, you were going

1545
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 5: to be the next saying well, not necessarily, but like

1546
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 5: the next the next band that people could uh literally

1547
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 5: follow around physically and travel around and tour with them

1548
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 5: and tailgate and have that whole kind of deadhead type

1549
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 5: of situation.

1550
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 2: So did you.

1551
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 5: Sense any of that or was that just between me

1552
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 5: and my friends where we heard felt that you were

1553
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 5: the next coming of let's say that type of touring.

1554
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we definitely felt like some I definitely

1555
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: remember feeling like some some of that was happening. But

1556
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 2: then you know that was also think about like Fish

1557
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: were you know, Peers and and and and they definitely

1558
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 2: held that place. And then when I think about the

1559
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 2: bands we kind of came up in this in that time,

1560
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: I suppose somewhat a culture of seventies rock and a

1561
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: lot of that being the dead was like if you

1562
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 2: think of there was like Colonel Bruce, and there were

1563
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: all these sort of interesting bands that were also sort

1564
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: of a crossover with jazz and stuff. So there was

1565
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 2: there seemed like there was a sort of a a

1566
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: groundswell of bands that were kind of doing that, and

1567
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: and we were super lucky, obviously, and so I felt that.

1568
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 2: I remember we were in We're in like within a

1569
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 2: couple of days of Jerry dying, we were in San Francisco,

1570
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 2: and I remember walking around, you know, uh, and and

1571
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 2: people were like literally in the people walking around the streets,

1572
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: literally saying what do we do?

1573
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 6: Right?

1574
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: No, it was it was it was kind of amazing

1575
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 2: to see these people who who's who had like there

1576
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: there whatever how wherever they were in their adult lives

1577
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 2: had really been wrapped around around that culture. And I

1578
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: don't think anyone will ever replace that or take over.

1579
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 2: But and we may certainly gotten some of that or been,

1580
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 2: you know, in some ways similar to what they represent

1581
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:13,480
Speaker 2: and at times maybe more effective in in our spontaneity

1582
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: than others. But I don't think I don't think that ever.

1583
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: You know, they were so unique that I I kind

1584
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: of felt, even though it wasn't part of as big

1585
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: a part of my my musical upbringing. When I was

1586
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: in San Francisco's walking around and people were going like,

1587
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: what are we gonna do? Like I was like, Wow,

1588
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 2: this is this is like a this is like a

1589
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: different world of of musical cult, musical devotion that I've

1590
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: never you know that. I mean, the Beatles had Theirs,

1591
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 2: but they never had anything like that. They never had

1592
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 2: like people going what am I gonna do? I remember

1593
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 2: being heartbroken when John Lennon died, but it wasn't going

1594
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 2: to change my bus schedule, you know.

1595
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 5: Right when the but when the Beatles broke up, there

1596
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 5: were people running around saying, what are we going to do?

1597
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 3: Oh wait, let me let me ask. Like for you, though,

1598
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 3: is jam bann a four letter word to you?

1599
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: Because I don't.

1600
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't.

1601
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 3: You know, you guys are way more advanced than I'll say,

1602
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,799
Speaker 3: at least eighty percent of that circuit.

1603
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: I mean there's some cats now, like Snorky Puppy that's kicking.

1604
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 2: Ass, but they're kicking ass and then you.

1605
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: Know they're not but they're not right, they're not.

1606
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 2: But it's interesting though, because that's that's scripted. I think

1607
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 2: it's where we didn't decide. You don't decide where you go,

1608
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: where you get put, you know, in some ways. And

1609
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: so I don't feel like that. I never uh, I

1610
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: felt like we belonged to that. I always thought that

1611
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 2: was a somewhat it was just a term convenient, you know,

1612
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 2: sort of odd, uh, you know, and that we got

1613
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 2: an audience and and we get to play for them,

1614
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 2: and it and I, you know, in a weird way,

1615
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 2: jam band. I don't know who came up with it,

1616
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: but it's you know, obviously jamming, as people do that.

1617
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 2: But but it seemed to be somewhat dismissive, you know.

1618
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, yeah, if someone's in jam bam,

1619
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 3: it's usually in a disparaging way, like a critic.

1620
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: Well, the thing was, we.

1621
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Try to avoid it because I saw some of the

1622
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 3: bands catching flack for it. But then you know, for us,

1623
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 3: I feel like, especially in the state of black music,

1624
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 3: the band is dying, the group is dying, the level

1625
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 3: of musicianship is dying. So we're now we have this

1626
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 3: like vigorous, like purpose to literally carry the history of

1627
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 3: like one hundred years of black music on.

1628
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: Our backs in our show.

1629
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 3: So we gotta do break beats and we got to

1630
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 3: do hip hop and we gotta do jazz and we got.

1631
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Like, so I think our thing is a little different.

1632
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,759
Speaker 3: And also in this place where I just I've learned

1633
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 3: not to manage people's expectations anymore. So you know if

1634
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 3: you notice, like I, well, I don't know if you know,

1635
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 3: it's not being at roots shows.

1636
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: But I purposely stopped doing drum solos like.

1637
01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 3: Maybe in two thousand and seven because I didn't want

1638
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 3: to get pegged as a jam band. So it's like, oh,

1639
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 3: I'll stop doing drum solos. But I mean now I

1640
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 3: don't care. But it's just like I think, you know, well,

1641
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 3: his jam band might be my Neil Soul, Like I remember,

1642
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 3: like I'm not Neil Soul.

1643
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: That's something that a carporate board made up.

1644
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 3: So that's why I wanted to know if jam band

1645
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 3: was a four letter word.

1646
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: So I get where where you're coming from with that too,

1647
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: because but mainly as as a dismissive thing. Because the

1648
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 2: funny part is that, you know, when I first heard Carter,

1649
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: he was playing in a band called Secrets, and it

1650
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 2: is like this most insane fusion band and a bunch

1651
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 2: of different you know, Tim had played with them, and

1652
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 2: I think Roy may have sat in with them a

1653
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 2: few times. There's I mean, they were crazy, an insane band.

1654
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: Everybody was better than the other guy, you know. And

1655
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: I used to watch them. And then Roy, I mean

1656
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: he played anything, but I'd see him. He'd be playing

1657
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 2: jazz and and and beautiful. Just you know, the first

1658
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: one of the first times I ever saw Roy, I

1659
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 2: just could I couldn't even believe that that this this

1660
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 2: gem lived in this town I'd moved to to be

1661
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 2: closer to my mom, you know. I was like, oh

1662
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 2: my god, this guy's insane, and and and and and

1663
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 2: Stefan was like this he came suggested to us. So

1664
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 2: the backgrounds of where everyone came from was not from

1665
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 2: like it wasn't because everyone was listening to the Dead,

1666
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: so we didn't have that connection to that that idea, right,

1667
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 2: And I had one. I had one Dead album. It

1668
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 2: was acoustic record. And every time I start describing it

1669
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 2: Dead fans go, oh, you had that record, so but

1670
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 2: uh and I loved it, but you know, but uh,

1671
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 2: it was it was a lot. Yeah, probably it was. No,

1672
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 2: it was a live record, it was studio, it was.

1673
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 6: The acoustic and it was front a radio city music hall.

1674
01:30:58,040 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Steve, you're a deadhead.

1675
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 6: I'm dead head adjacent.

1676
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 5: All my friends, my friends in in college were Deadheads,

1677
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 5: so they dragged me to a bunch of shows.

1678
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 6: And you know, but.

1679
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 5: As you guys are talking, I mean, there's there's there's

1680
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 5: obviously crossover between a band like The Grateful Dead and

1681
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 5: Dave Matthews Band, even though there's no direct influences necessarily,

1682
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 5: And then there's there's crossover in the audience between the

1683
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 5: Roots and the Dave Matthews band. I've been at at festivals.

1684
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 5: Absolutely the Roots fit in great with quote unquote jam

1685
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 5: bands the same same set.

1686
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 2: You know.

1687
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think if anything, we've learned as safe zif so,

1688
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 3: you know, we we've savee shifted to any band that

1689
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 3: we open for.

1690
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 2: So it's just like live I love it.

1691
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 6: Thank Did you ever meet Jerry that one time you

1692
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 6: opened up for him? Did you meet him?

1693
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 2: I did not, And we had this we have this

1694
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 2: habit and we did it with a lot of the

1695
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: bands that we opened up for, is we would just

1696
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 2: stay out of the way. And I don't know what

1697
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 2: it is, just like we're going to open up, Like

1698
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: if we're going to open up for the Stones, just

1699
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: go to your dressing room, we show the fuck and

1700
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 2: and then and then The weird thing is that a

1701
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 2: lot of the time then you do meet them, so

1702
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 2: you know, you get to meet Bob or you get

1703
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 2: to but I didn't meet Jerry that time. You know.

1704
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 3: See, you've never done a Dead End Company or Phil

1705
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 3: Lesson Friends or none of that.

1706
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 2: I haven't, you know, maybe I have not.

1707
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 7: That's one final question. Yes, Dave, your your band has

1708
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 7: covered a lot of tunes. Peter gabriel A, Bob Dylan,

1709
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 7: what's the song you Yeah, that's sledgehammer, God damn sledgehammer slamming.

1710
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 7: It always has been whatever Jesus Christ, Dave, Like, what's

1711
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 7: what's what? What's the song you wish you wrote? What's

1712
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 7: the one song you wish that you sledgehammer?

1713
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 2: But but it's so outside, you know, I mean, that's

1714
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 2: a that's a that's a that's an insane that's a

1715
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 2: perfect song. You know, it's like the whole I don't know,

1716
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 2: it's it's perfect, It's it's impossible. There's a lot of

1717
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 2: songs I wish I wrote, and and but I you.

1718
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 6: Know, what's your favorite Beatles song?

1719
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 2: That's that's an impossible thing to say, but, uh.

1720
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 5: Well, you answer the Starbucks question. You know, Whi's your

1721
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 5: favorite drink? You can answer this.

1722
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 2: But like so quickly too, he do, like, well, I

1723
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 2: know that if I pull over in Starbucks exactly what

1724
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 2: I can have. It's gonna right, I know what it's

1725
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 2: you know, But I mean my mood will change. Hay,

1726
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 2: bull dog is pretty that's some o. There you go, man,

1727
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 2: that's start at work.

1728
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: There you go. Nice.

1729
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 3: Before I close, I want to test out my rapid

1730
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 3: fire random ten, which I think I'm gonna lean more

1731
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 3: into that for future episodes.

1732
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 2: All right, Dave, I'm really slow at this.

1733
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, just rapid fire. Say what's on

1734
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 1: your mind?

1735
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 2: All right?

1736
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 1: What what is your secret talent that we don't know?

1737
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 2: I think I'm a pretty good I Maybe maybe I

1738
01:33:54,640 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 2: could have been an artist in a different life. Yeah, yeah,

1739
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 2: it might have been a painter. Maybe if I.

1740
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: Wait, do you do paint in your spare time?

1741
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm all right.

1742
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm a collector of artwork, so I'll be coming for you.

1743
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

1744
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: Anyway, text call or facetiming.

1745
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 2: Text and face times.

1746
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 7: No one calls anyone. That's a shitty question. No one

1747
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 7: calls anyone who calls people.

1748
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Over forty call. Trust.

1749
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife calls me and I always look at

1750
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 2: it expecting her face turn up. But then I always

1751
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 2: FaceTime her and then she has me in the cup

1752
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 2: holder or wherever.

1753
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 4: Because some people think it's rude to FaceTime cold. You

1754
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 4: supposed to text or something first.

1755
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I hate that. I hate the Yeah I text.

1756
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 2: I generally text.

1757
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: It's pizza knight, you're ordering. What do you order?

1758
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh? This is pressure fresh veg or a lot of meat.

1759
01:34:58,880 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Wow?

1760
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 2: So wait, yeah, that's it jake fresh beds or lots

1761
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 2: of bead. Either way, I mean, you.

1762
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 4: Got to ask them if you're in Philadelphia, is it

1763
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 4: a cheese steak or is it a chicken cheese steak.

1764
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I gotta tell you. I don't

1765
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 2: want to cross. I always want you have to tell

1766
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 2: me where do this is? How I answered that question.

1767
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 2: Where should I get?

1768
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no.

1769
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 3: From now on, I'm sending every comrade of mine j

1770
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 3: l just shut up like j jupiters. Yes, I don't

1771
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 3: give them jail Jupiter's YouTube page and he will lead

1772
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 3: them to the best steaks.

1773
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 2: All right?

1774
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: How many? How many?

1775
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 3: I got five? More left and then I'll let you go. Dave,

1776
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 3: how many unread texts are in your.

1777
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 2: Phone that that I have not read someone else has

1778
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 2: sent me? I? Well, I suppose that's the only ones

1779
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 2: there be right right now.

1780
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: There are three hundred and thirty five in my phone.

1781
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 2: None.

1782
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna text Dave Matthews and blow this.

1783
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 2: Sh it up. I don't always respond, but I always check, all.

1784
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: Right, so you least check, but you don't respond.

1785
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 4: But you're not an email person.

1786
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 1: Like a million a million about you know?

1787
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 4: Under it, Dave, you be careful of the read receipts,

1788
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 4: the red receipts. Okay, be careful of that since you're

1789
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 4: not answering them. You know, people can see when you're

1790
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 4: looking at the text message.

1791
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 1: You can hide it. You can hide it now, I

1792
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: don't care.

1793
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 2: Oh that does this?

1794
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 1: No?

1795
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 4: It literally said we get a message and says he

1796
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 4: read it.

1797
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: He just right, exactly know.

1798
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 3: But there's a there's a there's a switch button on

1799
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 3: your iPhone that can take that off. I immediately did

1800
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 3: that because everyone's like, I know you read it, because

1801
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 3: this as you read it, and so I was like, nope,

1802
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:11,759
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't.

1803
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 1: Trust that ship.

1804
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes I h if it's like a holiday or

1805
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 2: it's my birthday, I'll just paste like thanks love you

1806
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 2: and yeah, oh god, yes, I like thanks love you,

1807
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 2: Thanks love you. Thanks. I mean, but it's like that

1808
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 2: sometimes you just have to take it.

1809
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 4: You have like happy Father's Day, Thanks love you, Thanks.

1810
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 2: At quality one back at you?

1811
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: All right? Four more? What's your ice cream flavor?

1812
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,839
Speaker 2: I love ice cream. There's a great place Molly Moon's

1813
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 2: here in Seattle that I love. But there's I love all.

1814
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 2: I love ice cream. But I got to tell you

1815
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 2: there was this my most emotional response. There's uh, and

1816
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 2: it's you know, I wish it was organic, but it's

1817
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 2: I it's ice cream. I wish it was healthy. It's

1818
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 2: ice cream. Is uh black raspberry chocolate ice cream from

1819
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,560
Speaker 2: it's a it's a specific grocery.

1820
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 4: Raspberry with chocolate.

1821
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: Sip sounds like.

1822
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, that's cherry not.

1823
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 2: But it's it's black. I think it's black chocolate. It's

1824
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 2: just it's not there's no lumps or chunks. Oh, it's a.

1825
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 4: Great connoisseur of the ice cream. So that's that's that's different.

1826
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 2: It's from a grow It's it's like it's made by

1827
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 2: but I can't remember the chain, but I was really

1828
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 2: into it, and then I was like, I can't just

1829
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 2: that's the only time I've had.

1830
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 4: A really didn't you have your own flavor? No of

1831
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 4: the ben and Jerry's.

1832
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 2: Never naked like fish. It didn't make ry. I think

1833
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 2: we had cherry garcia. Jerry that cherry garcia is good.

1834
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 2: I did the fish food is good to.

1835
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: Fish food is a game change.

1836
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 4: I gotta try it.

1837
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 1: I don't know what's next.

1838
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry we're making your questions long.

1839
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Uh, what time do you wake up? And what

1840
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 3: are the first three things you do when you wake up?

1841
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 3: That's habitual every day?

1842
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 1: You are very good at this.

1843
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 2: Okay. So when I'm at home, I like to wake

1844
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 2: up early and take my boy to school, although that's

1845
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 2: going to end soon because he's still there. But I

1846
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 2: like the process of getting up with him. But when

1847
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm on the road, I don't have to do that.

1848
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 2: So and then I like, if I get up before

1849
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 2: my wife, then I don't do this. But if I

1850
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 2: do get up after her, I like to make the

1851
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 2: bed and always the first thing I do is, uh

1852
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 2: is is make myself coffee. I like to make my

1853
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 2: wife coffee, but I don't always know how she likes

1854
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 2: it because we're always changing. But I like, I just

1855
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: like that's the first thing I don't want to I

1856
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 2: don't want to do anything else. That's what I want

1857
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 2: to do. That's what I do. First on the road,

1858
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: I I, uh, coffee and then exercise. But at home,

1859
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 2: coffee and then think, wish I should be going to exercise.

1860
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 2: That's what I think. Like I've been busy, but but

1861
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 2: it's been three If I've been home for a few days,

1862
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 2: and every day I say tomorrow I'm going to exercise,

1863
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 2: and then I don't.

1864
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a trick for that. All you got

1865
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 4: to do is put your workout clothes on in the

1866
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 4: beginning of the day when you wake up, and it'll be.

1867
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:43,759
Speaker 2: Almost do I look. I look at I look at them,

1868
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 2: and then I go, yeah, but I'm going to put

1869
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 2: those other ones on and I'll put the work on later.

1870
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 2: I don't know that I put on my and my

1871
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 2: work got clothes involved, just so you know. Also involved

1872
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:59,600
Speaker 2: like the compression knee things, which is good, and so

1873
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 2: I put the compression knee things on. Sometimes I'll put

1874
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:05,839
Speaker 2: the compression knee things on and my whole workout outfit,

1875
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 2: which is pretty amazing. And then I don't work out

1876
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: sometimes because.

1877
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 4: You're tired from putting on all that compression ship that's

1878
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 4: it will tire you out.

1879
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, if the universe grants you a five

1880
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 1: year extension to prolong your favorite age, this shit like,

1881
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:32,839
Speaker 1: what is happening?

1882
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm just I threw the script away and

1883
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 3: I'm just having the common my friend, the universe allows

1884
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 3: you to live five years age in your favorite age?

1885
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 1: What age would it be? And why?

1886
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 2: This is what's coming to my mind, and so I

1887
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: have to say it, but I would I was going

1888
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 2: to say fifty six, which is what I am. But

1889
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 2: i'm because I'm feeling pretty good. But though an age

1890
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:03,600
Speaker 2: that struck me was fifty, I didn't think when I

1891
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 2: turned fifty that i'd be that I would notice something.

1892
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 2: But I noticed something that I wish I noticed when

1893
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 2: I was thirty, which is I didn't stop giving a fuck,

1894
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 2: but I stopped giving a fuck about shit that I

1895
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,799
Speaker 2: shouldn't give too much of a fuck about.

1896
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 4: Oh, teach me great one.

1897
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:33,520
Speaker 1: Oh, because I'm managing people's expectations.

1898
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I stopped. I was like, if you know, did

1899
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 2: I do something wrong? I didn't wrong. I'm trying. I

1900
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 2: want to be I want to be present, I want

1901
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 2: to be helpful. I want to be that. But but

1902
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 2: I but you know, I I stopped caring. Playing music

1903
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 2: start to be easier because I was. I felt like

1904
01:42:55,320 --> 01:43:00,040
Speaker 2: people would rather see me stick my tongue out and

1905
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 2: have a good time, then when I'm playing on stage,

1906
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 2: then they would want to see me wondering whether I

1907
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,679
Speaker 2: am doing my job.

1908
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 3: Well, okay, all right. Second to last, is it existential?

1909
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 3: Is the grass greener on the other side?

1910
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:21,520
Speaker 1: I like that.

1911
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,640
Speaker 2: Wasn't there a book in the seventies that was that

1912
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 2: was called The Grass is Always Greener over the septic Tank?

1913
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Timothy Leary.

1914
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 2: Oh Timothy Leary, really no, really, I mean I made

1915
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 2: that up. I made it up. I totally about it.

1916
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 7: Sound right, not at all, not at all, Like there's

1917
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 7: a rat at dinner.

1918
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening.

1919
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 2: But we did actually have a septic problem when I

1920
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 2: was a kid in New York and uh out on

1921
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 2: the front lawn. We didn't realize, but then the septic tank.

1922
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 2: But we had to have it, you know, drink whatever

1923
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 2: you do. You had that won't put in or they

1924
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 2: had to have a drain. I don't know what happened anyway. Anyway,

1925
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 2: then tomatoes started growing on the lawn and so my

1926
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 2: mom was like, free tomatoes. And my brother's like, I'm

1927
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 2: not eating the tomatoes. They're poop tomatoes.

1928
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: They're poop tomatoes.

1929
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were. They went through us and then they

1930
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 2: when they grew in the yard.

1931
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: Wait, that's such a thing.

1932
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if you poop tomatoes seeds and you

1933
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 2: you turn the soil no, and then you turn the

1934
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: soil no.

1935
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: Day with us, there's a here.

1936
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 2: My brother said, I'm not eating those tomatoes because I don't.

1937
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 2: I don't not eating those poop tomatoes. That's disgusting. Did

1938
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 2: he seematos gone?

1939
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 3: This might be my favorite interview, Like there's weird things

1940
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,799
Speaker 3: that happened, like FI, Like is it a fig?

1941
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 2: The fig is the fig that in order for a

1942
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 2: fig to be no, in order no big to be

1943
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 2: to turn into a fruit to be furl, it has

1944
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 2: a wasp has to have maybe have been to another

1945
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 2: the opposite sex, and then get stuck in the flour

1946
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 2: and then the wasp gets absorbed into the fig so

1947
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: when you eat, there's been a wasp that was absorbed.

1948
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 2: It's no longer there. There's not like a wing in there.

1949
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 2: But I'm just there's gross things out there.

1950
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 4: It is in badly. They use coffee made from.

1951
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 7: Ship right, so national the graphic. Dave matt All right,

1952
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 7: what's your last one here?

1953
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dave Matthews. How many push ups can you do?

1954
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 2: Go? I think I could do thirty?

1955
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 1: No? Really, yeah, that's that's impressive.

1956
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 4: Impressive, that's impressive.

1957
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 1: Really, go ahead.

1958
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it right now.

1959
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.

1960
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 4: I mean I thought she was going to the other question.

1961
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 4: Dave yay or nay micro dos.

1962
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Dave the A I knew he was with us,

1963
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 2: of course and sometimes.

1964
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 1: Macroads macroadis.

1965
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 2: Day.

1966
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 7: Did you just not do a great interview on Howard

1967
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 7: Stern where you talked about how you wrote, uh, the

1968
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,839
Speaker 7: title track to your last album on mushrooms.

1969
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 2: Oh, certainly was fantastic, certainly some of it because it

1970
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 2: was it was I mean that was I mean it

1971
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 2: was for my good fortune. There there there are there

1972
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 2: are around sometimes and mushrooms and uh and that pandemic

1973
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 2: mm hmmm.

1974
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 1: Elicits the mushroom seem like a good time.

1975
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 2: I mean, why not?

1976
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Oh my god, Dave dog.

1977
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 3: Uh, this is definitely like doing the show with with

1978
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 3: with an old friend because I hardly asked out of

1979
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 3: your publicists and your label ain't mad that we didn't

1980
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 3: talk more about song structure.

1981
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 1: And sorry, the record's great. Yes, sorry, we don't need

1982
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,680
Speaker 1: you know. Thank you, man, I appreciate it.

1983
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed talking and this is what I want

1984
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 2: to talk about. What we talked about exactly.

1985
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 1: Well, that was beautiful. Hopefully we'll have you back on

1986
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 1: some more.

1987
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 2: And I'm as nice as to hang out with you all.

1988
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you I mean your question. It's I'm

1989
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 2: always happy to see you.

1990
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir.

1991
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 2: And I love you your music, and I think you're

1992
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 2: unbelievable and I and I love the work you're doing.

1993
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 2: And I you know that I love Mutica how much

1994
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: that film meant to me, and you know, or that series.

1995
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 2: It's just like I can't tell you, squeeze, but I

1996
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 2: just made me so happy. Like it's like, uh, I

1997
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 2: love looking for the truth that's in our history and

1998
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 2: and and I just and and you did it so

1999
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 2: eloquently and uh shared with everyone. I think is just magic.

2000
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 2: And so thanks for having me.

2001
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 3: Stop smiling like you because she she's smiling because she

2002
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 3: knows that you're doing good.

2003
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 1: No, I love I love the compliment our.

2004
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 4: He wasn't all you know, he wasn't always able to

2005
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 4: take the flowers. So he's doing real good. He's still

2006
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 4: cutting you off slightly, but he's this is really good.

2007
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 4: This is progress.

2008
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 1: I gotta go because I have another interview to do.

2009
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen really awesome.

2010
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 3: They can be half on the half of Unpaid Bill

2011
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 3: and Sugar Steve and like the great Dave Matthews, we

2012
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 3: will see you next time on quest Love supremea thank you.

2013
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2014
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2015
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2016
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