1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to my show, Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: ra Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: definitions of success. For you and may be the size 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to develop a 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: plan to reach their dreams. It's time to stop reading 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: other people's success stories and start writing your own. You 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: can only exceed expectations by believing in yourself. People always 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: lead with your gift and don't let your friends, family, 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: or coreworkers stop you from planning or living your dream. 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: My guest is Warren Campbell. He's a music visionary, executive 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: and leading producer of R and B, gospel and hip 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: hop music. Campbell's ability to create chart topping hits across 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: a multitude of genres has made him critically acclaim as 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: one of the most prolific record producers of our time. 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: He's on the show to discuss this company, Block Inc. 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: And independent record label founded by the Grammy Award winning 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: producer being featured or TV one unsongd. The hit Maker's 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: episode one is dropping the Clothes with a line called 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Ernest Paul balancing his tenure as the pastor of California 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: Worship Center in North Hollywood, being a proud father daughter 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: going to Spellman he has he has three kids total, 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: and being marrid to every Campbell for over twenty years. 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about. Please welcome to 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Money Haggan conversation about the class, the one and only 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Warren Campbell. How are you doing, sir? Did I get 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: it all in? Did I get that? You brought me out? Man? 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: That was crazy? I told you, I tell you for 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: you gotta last day. We got a lot to talk about, 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: man Man, But it's all good for First of the first, 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you over, get you with your daughter 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: and Spellman, because I've been showing video at the video 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: and joe Lee, her daughter, it rolled the spellment. She 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: down there during the electric slide. Now were you Where 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: were you at? Where were you at, Warren down the 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: electric slide? Where were you at? I was watching? I 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: love it, Man, I love it, brother. Talk about your 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: daughter man Din in Atlanta and rolling in a prestigious 39 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: hbc uth school and what it means to First of all, 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: I got a daughter, so I know this, that separation, 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: fear worried constantly, the letting go and trust in life. 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that for a minute there, sir. Well, 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, this is the first person that made me 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: a father. That's my my, my big girl, my oldest 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: and we're very close. And so instead of just sending 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: her down there, I drove, man, I drove from Los 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Angeles all the way to Georgia. Awesome, I said. They 48 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: started out with just me and her because I said, 49 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: you know what, before I let her go, I want 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: some father daughter time. I want a week to live really, 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, talk to her for real, the real on 52 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: these boys next door over at her at clark in Morehouse. 53 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: But some her along the way. My wife jumped and said, 54 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: you ain't going bout yourself. I'm coming to And then 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: my my other two kids wanted to come. So we 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: took a family road trip. Man. It was beautiful bonding 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: at last. We were on the road for a week. 58 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: Uh and you know, and we had to we had 59 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: to let her go. We had to let it go. 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: And she's seventeen years old. Man, was just it was 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: emotional because he's not been away from me for more 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: than two weeks before ever, you know, going to camp things, 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: and uh so I had to rely on uh the 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: training that I that I instilled in her. You know, Uh, 65 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: if you train up a child in the way that 66 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: she or he or she should go when they oh 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: they want to part, don't mean they want to part 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: at all. It just means that when they get old 69 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: and they start grappling and wrestling with life, they're gonna 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: revert back to the teaching that they learned. So I'm 71 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: just trusting that I'm trusting that we uh were deposited 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: enough in her, uh that she can use when she's 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, face with tough life choices and that we're 74 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: not there for and you know, and and and the 75 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: thing is, I feel good because she called me yesterday. 76 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: I was waiting. She hadn't called me. Man, it's been 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: like it's almost a week, right right, right, right, right right. 78 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Finally she finally called me yesterday. That's my daughter. I said, 79 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: come on night. You don't don't forget now, you know, 80 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, And just watching them grow up because if 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, because you have the media out there, you 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: see the news, you see the violence, you see the 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: the unexpected. You know, you see the victim of being 84 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: a people of color. All these different things come into 85 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: play because of the fact that you know, you protected 86 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: this young child through elementaries through you know, first we 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: all let's go back to the birth. It's a miracle 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: to have a healthy child. Everybody should know that. That's 89 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: a blessing. And then to let them go out there 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: into a world this many miles from you, that's a 91 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: courageous move on your part. One. I'm gonna just tell 92 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: you right now, brother, that's courageous. Now. It was it was, 93 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: you know, it was a god thing. Man. She um, 94 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: she wanted to get into a certain school and she 95 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: didn't get into that school, and and I felt I 96 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: felt like as a as a father, I thought a 97 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: failure because I said, you know what, I should have 98 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: had her apply to more schools. But because we're all 99 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: in my family were all very creative thinkers. We're not 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: necessarily a family full of you know, um educated you 101 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: know uh people. In terms of nobody went to college. 102 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: I started doing this what I do now since I 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: started at thirteen years old, so I wasn't even thinking 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: about college. By the time I graduated high school, I 105 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: was already making a lot of money in the music business. 106 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: So um, I thought, my daughter, she's a very creative person, 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: amazing singer, songwriter, performer, and I just thought, you know what, 108 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: she don't have to go to college. She's gonna you know, 109 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: she's gonna go her home path. And then a lady 110 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: came and uh knocking saying listen. She was an alumni 111 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: from UM from Spellman the name of Dr Mary Gaffney. 112 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: I would never forget Dr Mary Gaffney. She called us 113 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: and said I have been mandated to get Christal Campbell 114 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: into Spellman, and a lady we never met before, she said, 115 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I need you to bring Cristal fly down to Spellman 116 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: on this day and when she leaves, she would have 117 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: an acceptance letter. We went down there, Christo towards the 118 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: campus and and I've never seen her excited about school 119 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: like that. She said, Dad, I want to go here. 120 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: Camp said okay, And so we waited and they sent 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: her a letter and said she was accepted. And it's 122 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: like God open that door. I had nothing to do 123 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: with us, and I said, now we we we received 124 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: grace for that because I felt like, you know, we 125 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: we didn't get her there, but God helped us. So 126 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: for these last two kids, we ain't gonna do that 127 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: this time. I'm gonna make sure that we do everything 128 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: that we need to do to make sure they get 129 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: to where they need to go. We'll be right back 130 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now 131 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: let's return to Money Make in Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. 132 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: But you know, you've been a guy like you said, 133 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: it's you've been in the music business. And when I 134 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: throw out the word R and B gospel, I thought 135 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: hip hop, all of them are really have their own 136 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: dominant force. They dominant sound, they dominant role. You know, 137 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: you can say that, you know that hip hop kind 138 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: of pulls from R and B, but that gospel genre, 139 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, feeds to the R and B, the secular 140 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: sound and all that. How do you, in your mind 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: worring disseminate the difference. Is it's the lyrics or it's 142 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: the beat. For me, it's the lyrics gospel. My definition 143 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: is the good news, right it is the news comes 144 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: in form of words, not sounds a melody. So, uh yeah, 145 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: there was at the inception of gospel music. Sound that's 146 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: only because that was the sound of that time. I 147 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: don't think it was meant to carry on forever or 148 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: not evolved. Um. And there's there's traces of all kinds 149 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: of things, uh in gospel music. Now why because gospel 150 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: is the ancestor for all music. Everything starts there, right, 151 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: and so out of the cotton fields, you know, we 152 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: we created this sound and jazz springs from it. So 153 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: that's blue, so that's rock, and now hip hop is 154 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: just the gumbo that stirs it all together. We you know, 155 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: just like when we were given the scraps to eat 156 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: as slaves, you know, we took that and made you know, 157 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: so Fu, which is now the most one of those 158 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: popular cauzines in the world. It's ain now hipop most 159 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: dominant genre in the world. And what we did, what 160 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: we did this, just like Sofa, we took the scraps, 161 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: a little piece of this record, a little piece of that, 162 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: and we turned it into other things that we created. 163 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: Hip hop kind of the same thing. And that's because 164 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: really you were you were born through hip hop. I 165 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: went up to say, yeah, you know through hip hop now, 166 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: and I read I bring that up because the fact 167 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: that you're your pastor now and you're not saying that, 168 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, hip hop can't be a passion of hip hop. 169 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: But these there's so many different styles of hip hop. 170 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: Did you did you walk into? There's languages that you 171 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: walk into. What defines you as a person? I want 172 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: to say, Warren. Uh. You know, people will say you're 173 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: a Christian, but that's that's ah. You know, that's the 174 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: word I seldom use because more than anything, I'm a believer, right, 175 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: because you gotta think of it. Was Jesus a Christian? 176 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: He was Jesus right, right, But I believe in Jesus. 177 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm a believer in in the Word of God, and 178 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: I followed that. I lived my life by that right. 179 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: And uh, if you do that, that means you gotta 180 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: read that and understand what it is. Most people just 181 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: joined churches and follow some God that don't really know 182 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: the Bible, and so they have all these rules and 183 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: things they live by. I grew up in the house 184 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: when my father was my pastor. But he's also my father, 185 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: and he was a very learned guy. You know, he 186 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: was educated. Let me know. Early when I was trying 187 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: to impress my father by saying, Dad, you know what 188 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna do any second in music, he said, 189 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: sit down from it. Let me talk to you. You said, 190 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: I was fifteen years old. He said, I said, you 191 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: started making money at this. He said, music is your passion. 192 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Guess what. Music is your your job. Music is your career. Right, 193 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: Music is your occupation. So now what you have now 194 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: is uh across worlds. Right. You got your occupation and 195 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: you got your salvation. Now you have to have you 196 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: have to walk a bounce because you cannot let your 197 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: occupation walk all over your salvation. You gotta have a standard. 198 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: And so my father sent me out while other church 199 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: members were saying he shouldn't be doing second in music 200 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: because the church is very unfair to musicians. You can 201 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: only do gospel music. If you don't you do anything 202 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: other than gospel music, and they're going to hell. We don't, 203 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: we don't say to the to the Christian uh, doctors, 204 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: you better only work on you know, Christian patients of 205 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: if you're you only work on Christian teeth. You know 206 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. My dad, My dad was like, no, man, 207 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: go out there and do the music you love. Just 208 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: have a standard, right. I love that. I love that. Yeah, 209 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: because I knew that the roadblocks and the and the 210 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: nay sayers because that's why I was talking about gifts. 211 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: You know, don't let your French family, uh, your coworkers 212 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: stop you from planning to living your dreams because so 213 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: many people will interfere and trying to tell you and 214 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: try to will their their values on you. And that's 215 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: important to be able to And so your father played 216 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: a major role in keeping you folks really and it's 217 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: really their fears, you know what I'm saying. Like my 218 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: mother was was was she was a big supporter when 219 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: it came time to me going to college or going 220 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: on the road, and had three choices of the schools. 221 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna go to their big music school's birthday, 222 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: School of Music, University, and cal Arts here in California. 223 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: My dad said, well, listen, you have this opportunity. There 224 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: was a tour going out nur January and and I 225 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: just graduated high school and ninety three. They got this 226 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: opportunity and to play on the road with Brandy and 227 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: we're going out with boys, two men and baby Face. 228 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: And because let's let's slow that down now, Brandy when 229 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: Brandy was straight fire okay, two men, straight fire okay, 230 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: and baby Face wrote Everybody's song Okay, everybody's song. You 231 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: just graduated my high school going out with them folks 232 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: and everybody every city we went to, every black person 233 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: in the town was at that show. Right, we were 234 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: big arenas. And um My father sent me down and said, listen, 235 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: you you go to school to learn or you know 236 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: they can teach you what you're getting medy to go 237 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: out and get paid to do, right, he said, He said, 238 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. I think you should do it. 239 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: School is gonna be here, this opportunity may not be right. 240 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: So my mother, because of her fear, was like no, no, no, 241 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: no no, but she was it's not gonna work. You 242 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: gotta get education. But that was just It's not that 243 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: she didn't love me, that was just her fear. Yes, 244 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: And so you can't other people's fear, you know, you 245 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: can't live I couldn't live my life through her fear 246 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: and other people around me that I was thinking, probably 247 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a mistake. You got all 248 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: these schools you can go to. So I jumped out 249 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: there and never looked back, man, And I met so 250 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: many people, and it was the catalyst for what I 251 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: do now. Man, And a lot of those relationships I 252 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: still hold today absolutely. You know the beauty of this conversation, 253 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: and I'd like to say conversation I'm having with you, Warren, 254 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: you can Warren a true hit maker. He's gonna be 255 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: featured on their Unsung series an episode called hit Makers. 256 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: When you when you were being recognized and you you 257 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: got Grammys, you got the wards, and you old, and 258 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't appreciate I know that. You know, it's 259 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: really crazy when you get Sometimes you get an award, 260 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: you you humbly take it, but you don't realize how 261 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: unique that award is. Because I know on this show, 262 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: because I get a lot of people used nominated. You know, 263 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: I nominated for an Oscar, nominated for a Grammy. So 264 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: doing this show, I've learned to appreciate my love Emmies. Okay, 265 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: because I got it so so because so many people 266 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: don't have it, but they're using credits to say they 267 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: were at least recognize nominated. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 268 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: So talk about that. I realized, Man, it never gets old. 269 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: I was with because you have to make a conscious decision, 270 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: uh and be intentional about appreciating those things. I was 271 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: one time I was with a well known producer gonna 272 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: say his name is Grammys and I was in the 273 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: studio with him, and at this time, I had two 274 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: Grammys and I was in the studio visiting this guy 275 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: and we were watching TV. We're watching the Grammys on TV, 276 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: and he won Producer of the Year. While I were 277 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: sitting there watching it and his sponsors like this, I said, Man, 278 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm going nuts. Oh my god, he's sitting there like this, 279 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: going oh. Man. I said to myself, I ain't never 280 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna be like them now. I appreciate every award I've won. 281 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: You know, you have your Granny statues and you have 282 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: your Grammy plaques. Between all of those put together, I 283 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: might have about seventeen of those things, man, But in 284 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: terms of statues, I have five or six statues, Grammy, 285 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, awards, and it's never I just won last 286 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: year this past Grammys for Best Rap Song with a 287 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: Kanye feature in um Jay z uh And it was 288 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: just the best feeling in That's like I said, you know, 289 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: I didn't really get it until I started doing my 290 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: show and I just kept seeing people say nominated, nominated, nominated, 291 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: that went wow, mom. People trying to make it Neligan's 292 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: didn't make it, but I was one of the ones 293 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: who did. We'll be right back with more money Making 294 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to money 295 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You know TV one 296 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: on song and when he reached out to you and 297 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: talked about wanting to recognize you and tell a part 298 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: of your story because you're really a documentary you know, 299 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: that's another conversation you know years old. You know you 300 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: messed with the draw person Waring. I'm I'll be knocking 301 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: on your dote like that lady from the Spell. But 302 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: excuse Mr Camp, I'm not here to see you, Eric. 303 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm here to see big Dog Hire. Who want to 304 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: do a documentary on him? Tell his story? Do a movie? 305 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: You know they could do Marvin's sapp movie. They Dodge, 306 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: you can do the War one of these days to 307 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: love it? So only hit maker? What the what did 308 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: you want to say? Why did you actually do that 309 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: that particular episode one, because you know, I thought it 310 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: was a huge opportunity the first The first thing I 311 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: did was I was a little trepidacious because when you're 312 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: thinking about the show unsung Uh. You think about guys 313 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: that who are you know, older and who at the 314 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: end of their career and they're doing son to talk 315 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, wait a minute, I'm I'm writing 316 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of list thing. I ain't. I ain't. 317 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, you know. And and for that reason 318 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: I have not let a lot of my artists do it, 319 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: because I'm like, no, we're still in our prime. But 320 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: all they said, no, this is unsung presents the hitmakers. 321 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: It's not just you know, it's not that. So I said, okay, 322 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: let's let's let's do it. And man, it was. It 323 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: was quite an amazing thing to go back. We went 324 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: back to the church that I was born, and you know, 325 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: and I walked that block, and we went back to 326 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: my my, my neighborhood where I grew up in, which 327 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: is the reason why I called my label my block 328 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: in stems from that block, you know, uh, being growing 329 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: up on that block in south central l A fifty 330 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: second in normity. And in that we we talked to 331 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: about so many different things that I never thought about. 332 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: You know, you do your job. You know, I don't 333 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: talk about my job. I just do it. You know, 334 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: you don't I don't. I don't. Nobody asked me questions 335 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. You know, who'd you 336 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: work with? That? Nobody? I just do it and I 337 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: work up in the morning, I do it again. I 338 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: do it again, and you and you look back. It's 339 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: been you know since I started this thing. It's been 340 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: over twenty years, and I'm going really like somebody's been 341 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: chronicling all these things. And it was it was a 342 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: very emotional saying, and I felt honored and blessed just 343 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: looking back and saying like, I'm at a age now 344 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: where I can still do the exact same thing I did, 345 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: but this time I'm at that age. I'm in that 346 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: middle of my forties where you know, I'm old enough. 347 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm young enough to still do it, but I'm old 348 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: enough to know better to do it a better way. 349 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and I love what I'm at with it, 350 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: and that that show just helped me like realize all 351 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: of that. It ain't over. I got a whole another 352 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: second half to do. Absolutely, Like the late age is 353 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: never an excuse. I'm talking to Warren Campbell or visionary music. 354 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: Uh see, he's one of these people, you know, I 355 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: teached it with that opening because he wanted the people 356 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: go warrant doing that too. Reason to say that he 357 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: had a clothing line. Y'all. Okay, now see see people 358 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: out that mad. They're happy, but they're mad. What I'm 359 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: saying he going there too? Oh heck no, come on, now, 360 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: what else are you gonna do? Cook? You're gonna start 361 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: a restaurant? Hot dogs? That what you're gonna do. Na's war. 362 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: You're preaching, you're saving souls, You're putting kids in college. 363 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Gotta beautiful wife, she got a nasal syndicated show. You 364 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: gotta grab me, you gotta statues, she got plaques. You've 365 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: been doing this since she was came out of high school. 366 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: Now you gotta clothe the Come on, naw, stop the madness. 367 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: Tell us about Ernest Paul, Ernest Paul, Ernest Paul is uh, 368 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: Ernest Paul Campbell. My grandfather love it so. Um. One 369 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: of the reasons why you know me today is because 370 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: of this man, my grandfather. Right, there's a there's a 371 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: lamb on the shirt because people go, like, you know, 372 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: they get a little deeper. Was that for the lamb 373 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: of God? Said? It could be. It's really because my 374 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: grandfather every first Sunday of the month. He cooked. He 375 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: could lamb my grandfriend. He was an amazing cook, and 376 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: we had family dinner at his home every first Sunday. 377 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: And I mean this spread was amazing. It looked like 378 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: when that movie So Food right right right bright. That 379 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: was my granddad every first Sunday. So the story is, 380 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell it to you succinctly, my grandfather. You could 381 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: appreciate this with Sean was to be the Jackie Robbinson 382 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: the radio Wow Wow in the thirties or forties. Um. 383 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: He was said to be the first black on air 384 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: personality at NBC Radio Wow. So he goes in, he 385 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: gets the job. M he reads the news, the sports, 386 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: and the weather. He has this amazing voice. Right this 387 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: is in New York. After he gets off the air, 388 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: uh you know, he's I'm excited, you know, and two 389 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: white men welcome to him who are also on their personalities. 390 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: While he's outside. He said, hey, good job today, and 391 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: they tell him his mother, Daisy Campbell's address in the Bronx. 392 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: He says, listen, good job today to badsh your last 393 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: day m hm, because if you come back here tomorrow, 394 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna show up the social address and Daisy Campbell, 395 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna kill her and we're gonna burn the house down. 396 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: And he said to me, that was during the time 397 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: that when a white person told you something like that, 398 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: you believe him exactly. But especially in the forties, he said. 399 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: So he never went back, uh, And so his dreams 400 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: just got crashed and he became He became a bus 401 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: driver in New York City Transit, drove buses for thirty 402 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: forty years, you know. And and so this is my 403 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: father's father, and so because of that, he would drill 404 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: into my dad, don't you ever let nobody tell you 405 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: what you can't do? Every day, every day. And when 406 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: I was born, my grandfather and he got older, he 407 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: came to l A to live with us, and so 408 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: I was praised in the house with my father and 409 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: my grandfather beautiful. And he would drill it into me 410 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: him and my dad, don't you ever let anybody tell 411 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: you what you can't do. And that's why I have 412 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: a album to this day. If you want to see 413 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: me turn into a maniac, Let you have an idea 414 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: of something I want to do, and you tell me 415 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: I can't do it, I'll break my neck and you're 416 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: trying to do it the same way. I'm the same way, 417 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: the same way, and so this was simple. This was 418 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: a started as a tribute to him. And I realized, 419 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, I was good at designing this stuff, all 420 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: the pieces that we were making. I was like, oh, 421 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: this is amazing. And I realized, bigger guys, um because 422 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a small guy. I'll wait two 423 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: hundred forty pounds. They don't have fly close casual clothes. 424 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: You gotta go to the store and uh, I mean 425 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: my wife went to Paris and we was gonna shot. 426 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't buy nothing right, right, right right. So I said, what, 427 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't make some fly gear for guys my size. 428 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because they don't go ask 429 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: four X. I wear two x R. Right. They don't 430 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: try to try to find the two X of the store. 431 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: It's very hard. So I said, I'm going up the 432 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: five X. I'm not getting ready to uh go past 433 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: five xs. I don't want to feed into your old 434 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: b CD too much. But you know, I don't make 435 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: some clothes for the bigger guys. And that's how this started. 436 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: And I named it after my grandfather was a big 437 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: guy as well, and you know that's where that came from. 438 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: So we started we have a whole line right now. 439 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: You see the T shirts in the hoodies, those are 440 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: just promotional items that we're selling for a year, and 441 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: then the actual clothing line would come out two years 442 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: with all the really cool stuff that we already had planning. Like, 443 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: you know something, I got a client, you know big, 444 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: he's big size, he has a he's a his name 445 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Jenkins. We shoot we shooting the series right now. 446 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: On that g O. He goes around the world and 447 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: it does things that you know, challenges his fears and 448 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: that outfit Earnest paul Man. We're gonna get his size 449 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: if you don't mind sending some stuff and I haven't 450 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: wearing on the on the show. Put it on social 451 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: media because his name is Jeff Jenkins. Is that social 452 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: media is called Trubby Diaries. And he's a he's right 453 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: now travel, he goes right food travel, and that GEO, 454 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: he's in fact, he's right now take. He's just left 455 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: New Zealand and he's taking the second episode to this 456 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: this week. He's in Alabama taping this second episode this week. 457 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: And like she was gonna take ten episodes the first season. 458 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: What you're talking about is somebody I love for him to, 459 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, just give your extra promotion on TV showing 460 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: into the world your clothes a lot. So that's still 461 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: we got. We got brother. Jeffrey got him, and I 462 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: would appreciate that because any any promotion right now. We 463 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: I just seen uh, last week, Bill Bella, he had 464 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: a T shirt on. He was on on Instagram. I said, 465 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: I didn't because I don't know Bill. But the lady 466 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: that's that's my partner. Her name is Okill. She has 467 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: her own clothing line as well. She gave him some 468 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: stuff and he started rocking. I said, man, this is 469 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: amazing that Bill. Bill by my side. Now for Arnes 470 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: Park and look good on Rishan. Now I got a 471 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: million follows. I got a million follows. If I gotta 472 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: sell myself, I cook on my TikTok video. I got 473 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: forty one thousand followers there, cook, Cannot I do it 474 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: for you? I wear a T shirt because I always 475 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: wearing suits when I do with TikTok cooking because that's 476 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: how that's But I put on Earnest Paul for you. 477 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: That brother, I'm gonna send you some T shirts. I'm 478 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: sent you a sweatshirt, sent you a Hoodie's beautiful. But again, 479 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: the bigger picture of Jeff Jakins, I want to get 480 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: it to him so we can rock your stuff on 481 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: his show, which is on that g oh Man. But 482 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: like we with twenty Chix minutes warm, we've just been 483 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: talking man that I just want to I don't want 484 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: to hold you in long because you your daughter and spelled, 485 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: but Jesus spell but not so I got you now, 486 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: I got you. I got you when you come down here. 487 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: I cook all the time here. I can't cook like 488 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: your grandfather, but I can cook. You're gonna come down here, 489 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna cook a meal. And if America's the time, 490 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna coming down and do it. But brother, I'm 491 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: just glad we finally got to talk. You know. I 492 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: love Erica the death, but I always wanted to sit 493 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: down and talk to you, man, and boy, you're ad 494 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: in life. Man is a beautiful place. And thank you 495 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: for coming on. Money making conversation about to class. Okay, 496 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: thank you, brother, I appreciate that. Thank you, and we 497 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: talked soon. Man,